h1-discussion

[past mirage]

The bow's Dash-Strike is underestimated (accelerates charging, synergizes with Hunter Dash and Assault), but I rarely pull it off as intended.

[worthy egret]

So is

[past mirage]

So is

[sage marten]

Yeah, ranges from hopeful to unending disgust

[worthy egret]

[sage marten]

Same for , he goes from concern to murderous rage

[rough token]

Anyway, time for me to actually get off. I do actually want to be productive tomorrow xD and it's already past 2 am

[buoyant merlin]

I should probably post in feedback an increased input window for dash shot in bow

[worthy egret]

I like bow

I say, fully aware of my latest run ending in elysium

[keen canopy]

Anyway, time for me to actually get off. I do actually want to be productive tomorrow xD and it's already past 2 am
Sleep well

[rough token]

Danke ^.^

[granite ether]

ni ni Swan

[high island]

Good night!

[worthy egret]

Neenee

[nimble ocean]

good night then

[high island]

Coronacht and Varatha are still the only two weapons I can't really make work anywhere near as well as the others.

[buoyant merlin]

corona

[ruby palm]

demonetized

[worthy egret]

I can make coronacht work

I just dont really work w varatha

[sage marten]

bow in greek was called toxon
bow in hades is called coronacht
Coincidence? I think not

[worthy egret]

Skill goes Exagryph > Coronacht > Stygius > Malphon > Aegis and Varatha

[keen canopy]

Coronacht and Varatha are still the only two weapons I can't really make work anywhere near as well as the others.
Those are my two main weapons

For Coronacht, it really helps to get into a kind of dash -> dash strike while looking out for enemy attacks and determining the next place to dash to -> dash again cycle
I really like the dash strike, the lessened damage is a fine tradeoff for speed in a game as fast as this one

[worthy egret]

For me

You mean you DONT just mash dash and attack?

[ruby palm]

which end is which on that scale, arti

[sage marten]

Guan Yu relies a lot on being able to dodge well and timing and is kind of the worse fourth weapon anyway

[worthy egret]

Exagryph is my main

The mvp

[ruby palm]

gotcha

[worthy egret]

Guan yu for maximum anxiety

[high island]

Varatha and Coronacht are both moderate, slow, single-target damage when Hestia exists with high, fast, single-target damage.

[ruby palm]

id say for me it's shield > gun > fists > bow > sword > spear

[worthy egret]

Snip'd

I like all exagryph aspects

But Eris carried me through a good part of the game so it gets a soft spot

[ruby palm]

i dont have much experience with the whole range, ive mostly used zag and ||lucifer||

[high island]

Why doesn't Coronacht do 100 base damage with a power-shot when Hestia does 150 for less effort?

[ruby palm]

maybe piercing vs non-piercing?

[keen canopy]

i dont have much experience with the whole range, ive mostly used zag and ||lucy||
Don't call it that
Please

[ruby palm]

(ok why)

[nimble ocean]

i tend to pick up the weapon that currently gives +darkness, even if i'm bad at it.. maybe that's why i almost never win and stay at 2-3 heat

[high island]

Yeah, but I don't think piercing justifies the difference. You can get a piercing hammer on Hestia.

[nimble ocean]

maybe i should stop combining farming runs with normal ones

[keen canopy]

(ok why)
@ruby palm
I hate it
...
No I don't
...
Yes, I kinda do

[ruby palm]

fair, fair, and fair

one the one hand i feel like i should branch out to the other aspects and weapons out of an obligation to be a more well rounded player but on the other hand that usually results in having Less Fun even after a decent bit of practice

[high island]

Who are you trying to impress by being "more well rounded" instead of just doing what's the most fun for you?

[worthy egret]

Play what is fun to you

I realized how fun Arthur is and went up to 8 heat from 1 w it

Like i have sword and gun at 9 and 10 heat and the rest is like, 6,4,3...

[ruby palm]

yea thats the thing is it's an entirely fabricated obligation on my part

[worthy egret]

Me, choosing heats for 11: this is where the punishment begins isnt it

[unkempt sleet]

Nah, MM, EM3, BP2

Easy picks

[worthy egret]

mm is all fun and games until you get the dynamic duo

[high island]

EM3 and BP2 aren't easy.

[unkempt sleet]

EM3 I can agree, but I've grown very accustomed to BP2

[worthy egret]

Hacent gone bp2 yet

Only BP1

[sage marten]

EM3’s not that bad once you get used to it and learn to stay the hell away during a couple of their moves

EM2 can get way messier imo

[worthy egret]

Ive only done EM3 once for the prophecy and i was screaming the entire time

Really? I heard horror stories and EM2 isnt all that hard for me

[high island]

BP2 is definitely among the hardest pacts. EM3 is up there, too. EM2 is fine.

[worthy egret]

Like sure one time i almost lost on it, like its not easy, but

[sage marten]

Yeah it does take a bit to get used to but since the arena’s pretty wide once you learn how they move it’s not too hard

Imo EM2 can get messy in the second necc spawn

[high island]

@ruby palm FWIW, I only play what's fun too lol. https://imgur.com/a/IaQgooN

[ruby palm]

golly

[unkempt sleet]

I feel like I can deal with most everything BP2 has to offer bar maybe skulls with Bruiser and Laser

[sage marten]

Like
I genuinely have a harder time in EM2’s phase 2 than EM3 because of how little wriggling room there is at first

That is a lot of fisting

[unkempt sleet]

And Flame Wheels with Laser too, but those are Flame Wheels

[ruby palm]

ive personally never had more trouble against ||lernie|| than against any other boss

[high island]

Well, if it's just BP2 and nothing else, it's not very difficult. But that goes for pretty much all the pacts at only 5 heat.

[unkempt sleet]

Yeah, until now the only modifier I have for normal enemies is BP2. I am actually using BP2, EM2 and MM for 10 heat.

I also have no plans of touching FO in my lifetime

[high island]

I use FO2 pretty much always lol.

[ruby palm]

i think ive been using bp2, mm, fo, em2, and js1?

i dont recall exactly

[high island]

Getting used to FO1 or no-FO on low heat would just hurt me on high heat.

[unkempt sleet]

I remember trying it way back when and I couldn't get past Hydra.

Although I had a lot less options back then.

[ruby palm]

i first tried it out while on an absolute steamroll of a session and didnt even notice it

[worn horizon]

I hate the shield so much

[ruby palm]

so i was just like 'might as well keep this then'

why shield hate?

[high island]

FO2 received a lot of attention in the Blood Price update. They've set minimum startups for a lot of different attacks to ensure you actually have some time to react.

[worn horizon]

Because the shield is sluggish

[tepid plover]

golden touch or deep pockets?

[keen canopy]

FO2 received a lot of attention in the Blood Price update. They've set minimum startups for a lot of different attacks to ensure you actually have some time to react.
Ah, that's pretty nice
Tell me the ||Vermin|| are part of it

[ruby palm]

i find shield quite fast paced, though certainly not as quick as smth like fists or gun

what aspect have u been using?

[sage marten]

Yeah, shield’s more of a defensive weapon than anything else but it can be pretty fast unless you’re using the fourth aspect, which is a bit slower but generally hits harder

[worn horizon]

Zagreus

The shield base attack is the slowest thing ever

There is so much downtime before you can hit again

[ruby palm]

golden touch or deep pockets?
@tepid plover i personally use golden touch and hoard ~1000obols into the final realm

[worn horizon]

Haven't even beaten the Arena bosses with it

[unkempt sleet]

Deep pockets if you struggle in the early game, golden touch otherwise.
Or you could use golden touch and Purse

[worn horizon]

Every other weapon I've beaten the game with on Heat 2+ already

[ruby palm]

The shield base attack is the slowest thing ever
@worn horizon you're not really supposed to stand in place and jab with the shield - it works better if you're dash-attacking and/or bullrushing frequently

[worn horizon]

It still feels slow and weak

[ruby palm]

i would absolutely recommend taking chaos shield for a spin

[worn horizon]

Got no blood left

[ruby palm]

oh rip

[worn horizon]

I'm currently farming blood for the L aspect on Hexagryph

[high island]

Deep Pockets almost always makes for a better run. Golden Touch helps if you want to buy the bounties at the end.

[worn horizon]

Because I find Hexagryph and Malphon to be the most fun

[high island]

But arguably, more consistently successful runs will help you get bounties faster.

[worn horizon]

True of course

[high island]

But if you're doing low heat farming, Golden Touch would help you claim some bounties while you're at it.

[worn horizon]

But there is only so much heat that can be fun

I already have most of the bounties, the rest are RNG ones

[high island]

I dunno, everything up to 20 is pretty chill. 20 being the last heat you get bounties for.

[tepid plover]

one of the shield upgrades say after "blocking a foe" how do you block someone?

[ruby palm]

rng?

[worn horizon]

Boons and Minibosses

[ruby palm]

hold the attack!

[tepid plover]

oh

ok

[buoyant merlin]

bro

[unkempt sleet]

You mean prophecies? Bounties are for heat thresholds

[buoyant merlin]

I just read what that guy posted in feedback about over charming in hollow knight and I had no idea you could do that

[ruby palm]

.u can get bounties from boons and minibosses?

[worn horizon]

Oh yeah right lol

[ruby palm]

OH oh ok

[worn horizon]

Prophecies and bounties are different right

[ruby palm]

yes

[unkempt sleet]

Yeah

[worn horizon]

Both give "Bounties" for completing them

So that's confusing

[unkempt sleet]

Rewards is more accurate

But essentially, yes

[worn horizon]

Same thing

[ruby palm]

bounties are bounties, prophecies give many resources, including bounties

[unkempt sleet]

Bounties are more consistent, prophecy rewards vary greatly

[ruby palm]

am i the only one struggling with getting every god's legendary boon for their prophecy or

[unkempt sleet]

Divine protection eluded me for the longest time. You are not alone.

[high island]

You need Brilliant Riposte to get Divine Protection.

Otherwise she won't offer it.

[unkempt sleet]

I had to pick it around 5 times before she finally decided to grace me with the legendary

[keen canopy]

am i the only one struggling with getting every god's legendary boon for their prophecy or
I think it's quite possible when you only go for that god (keepsake, Fated Authority, shops etc....
I don't have 'em all too tho

[ruby palm]

ive been staring at athenas skill tree for what feels like seven years now but every single time i think 'ok, im actually going to grab enough athena boons to get divine protection', the game simply Does Not Give Any To Me

[keen canopy]

and the mirror talent that increases the chance for the legendary boons (forgot the name)

ive been staring at athenas skill tree for what feels like seven years now but every single time i think 'ok, im actually going to grab enough athena boons to get divine protection', the game simply Does Not Give Any To Me
Ok, that kinda sucks

[ruby palm]

yeah :T

[keen canopy]

[worthy egret]

What do you MEAN up to 20 is chill

[unkempt sleet]

It surprises me that Divine Protection is the rarest when Black Out exists

[worthy egret]

Half of those heat options scare the soul out of me

[high island]

That sounds about right. I go for Divine Strike builds all the time on Malphon and pick up Brilliant Riposte when I get the chance, and I rarely see Divine Protection.

[worthy egret]

Ive only seen it once

[buoyant merlin]

tfw when an Aphrodite and Hermes duo boon has the best name possiblities

"quickie"

[ruby palm]

hgfhhsfdgdfh

id be excited to see hermes duo boons tho :0

[high island]

Hmm. My Permanent Record shows 29x Brilliant Riposte, and I don't see Divine Protection on it at all. Maybe I haven't seen it since they've added the Permanent Record? I know I got it at least 1 time since on my Hell Mode save, though.

[worthy egret]

"quickie"
ITS PRONOUNCED QUICHE

[high island]

I prioritize Deadly Reversal over Brilliant Riposte a lot of the time, though. So I tend to get Brilliant Riposte pretty late when I do.

[ashen moon]

random question for just kinda everyone
do you prefer to use greater or ruthless reflex?
ive been messing around with ruthless and theres a lot i feel like a lot of things wouldve been far easier to dodge with greater and that while the benefits on ruthless are nice and if you get hermes you can maybe negate the downside of not having the extra dash, but without the extra dash a lot of things seem far harder to dodge, at least on fists

[ruby palm]

i've been sticking with ruthless because i like the idea of that neat extra damage and dodge chance, but i do admit i miss that extra dodge quite a bit

[ashen moon]

like
i like ruthless when i get the hermes boon
but without things like some of the big aoe spins meg and theseus like to do seem real hard to dodge

[ruby palm]

my excuse for those is that i usually dash the wrong direction anyways lmao

[ashen moon]

see i try to dodge in the complete opposite direction i am
and that works with two dashes, maybe im doing something wrong and need to dodge like laterally

[ruby palm]

i think ultimately the idea is to time the dash just right and use the sweet sweet i-frames

[ashen moon]

probably
that seems to be ruthlesses thing is you trade safety for damage

[ruby palm]

mhm

and u do get a neat lil 1/5 chance to Not Get Hit for a moment too

so theres that bit of compensation, as far as safety goes

[ashen moon]

isnt it 1/2
since both of them are 50%
or am i misunderstanding how dodge works

[ruby palm]

?

i thought it was 20%

oh!

i am simply wrong!

u are correct, it is 1/2

[ashen moon]

also learned tight deadline 1
even though i know i have plenty of time since i can get through areas with like
3-4ish minutes left im going fast
is stressful

[ruby palm]

i still feel too scared to use tight deadline even though my runs are usually about 30-40mins anyway

[ashen moon]

see me being dumb did a run where i wanted to do
all the things i havent used on the pact at once
in one run

for the fated list

i got like bounced between two enemies in the last area and got killed by a trap

I was likely dead anyway since i ran out of death defies

[ruby palm]

was it worthwhile

[ashen moon]

i mean ive found out that i can do forced overtime one and not feel really any difference

and if im not careless i can do heightened security

[ruby palm]

interesting

i had the same experience trying FO for the first time

[past mirage]

I think they support different playstyles. Greater Reflex makes it easier to move out of big attacks (like the last boss' spins and swings) or to do backstabs. Ruthless Reflex incentivizes good timing, and the damage buff can't be sneezed at. You can even abuse magma or traps to get Near-misses, and the timing is surprisingly generous. Also, in frantic battles, you either get hit, or it's a Near-miss. The buff has a lot of uptime.

If you can get Hermes' Reflex boon (extra dashes), Ruthless gives more mileage as a result. The chances to get Reflex with the first Hermes boon is 23%, and with Fated Persuasion, you can increase those odds.

[ashen moon]

yeah
i think i just need to get used to having the one dash

i havent really run with fated persuasion
i prefer being able to reroll midboss rooms to a god i like than rerolling my selection of boons

[high island]

Ruthless Reflex is better when you get a rare or better Greatest Reflex from Lord Hermes. Greater Reflex is better any other time.

Ironically, the better you are at i-framing attacks with your dashes and timing your dash-strikes, the more Greater Reflex pulls ahead.

[buoyant merlin]

Is it possible to get your dodge chance to 100?

And just breeze through a run

I imagine there’s some diminishing return thing

[gusty slate]

I doubt it

You can get it oretty high though

[high island]

Some people have mentioned a hard cap at 80% that I can't confirm. It seems to be multiplicative, though—similar to damage reduction. But I haven't verified that, either.

[burnt lantern]

Anyone got a good Aegis build?

[brisk trail]

I would like myself some blood

[buoyant merlin]

Wish kinetic blaster showed up more often because it’s super fun to use

[brisk trail]

What are these big locked things at the bottom of the keepsakes menu

[worthy egret]

A special keepsake you can get by reaching high affinity with certain characters

[brisk trail]

"affinity?"

[worthy egret]

you need to max their nectar hearts, then do a favor for them, and then give them abrosia

[brisk trail]

Oh ok

[worthy egret]

👍

[brisk trail]

Any good way to get nectar faster

play

[finite hazel]

I have a question: when it becomes possible to use Big Nectar?

[buoyant merlin]

It’s complicated. You have to max out the small ones first but sometimes advancing the conversations is dependent on other things

[brisk trail]

"Big Nectar"?

[finite hazel]

Ambrosia. I remembered its name.

@buoyant merlin Thank you.

[brisk trail]

Sorry, I still haven't gotten past elysium so I bet it's past that

What green mirror upgrades do I want to have on

[void vigil]

It’s totally up to you and your playstyle, and you could experiment with them and see which ones you like. I personally tried them all at least once but rn I like the one where darkness heals you, I think it’s almost the only one I use

It’s less reliable than chthonic vitality but you get a nice chunk of health from beating bosses and troves

[snow apex]

is chamber per room or like per boss ?

[void vigil]

Per room

[brisk trail]

chamber or encounter

[void vigil]

Chamber would be room, encounter would be a room with combat in it

[brisk trail]

yeah

[void vigil]

Though troves don’t count for encounters

[brisk trail]

I'm just trying to decide between god's pride or god's legacy

[fading gazelle]

I usually go for god's pride

Epic boons are what usually carry me through all my runs

Duos and Legendries require certain boons to be taken for them to appear which make them really inconsistent for me

[worthy egret]

you know what would be funny to hear

voice acting outtakes

[livid cargo]

I would give a lot of money to hear Zag say "BIONIC AAAAAAAAARM" while using the Fists

[brisk trail]

family favorite or privileged status

[livid cargo]

I am a status boi all the way

[cobalt anvil]

Status feels more satisfying when you pull it off

[twilit void]

I see than almost every run and have his keyhole but can’t get him to give me the damn thing

[buoyant merlin]

I seem to be encountering a bug where ||Cerberus doesn’t fight you and can be bought off hundreds of times.|| is anyone else experiencing this glitch?

[brisk trail]

ngl fists feel so staisfying

[buoyant merlin]

They are my favorite weapon

I love them

[brisk trail]

I have such a good run going with them right now

[buoyant merlin]

I love all three of them that are in the game at the moment

[brisk trail]

I haven't unlocked any of it's aspects yet

Was scared for a moment that eurydice wasn't gonna give me any stuff

She seemed pretty pissed off

uh

Why does the main bone hydra have a purple head

I hate this bad

I died

Gun might be my least favorite weapon

[manic bobcat]

Slap a Lightning Strike on it and watch it goes brrrrrr

Bonus points if you get Splitting Bolt, too

[high island]

@brisk trail get Divine Strike on Malphon, and the Wavemaker Hydra won't bother you.

[brisk trail]

@flint phoenix I left a message on the feedback board about Aphrodite's illustration a few hours ago. If I was rude, I would like to apologize. I do not speak English well. As a player who enjoys the game'Hades', I just wanted to convey the opinions of other Korean players around me (we thought the illustration' face was a bit dark). I like hades' art style, and I thought it would have been nice if there were only a few modifications to Aphrodite's illustration. There were people who agreed with my opinion, but after seeing a lot of disagreements, I rethink and apologize for that. Thank you for developing hades.

[manic bobcat]

Hey I like your illustration better

But if that's not the majority opinion then that's OK, too. No need for apologizing.

Your opinion is valid, even if it's not implemented. Keep the feedbacks coming. That channel shouldn't be taken personally.

[past mirage]

A very similar discussion played out on Steam and it went overboard very fast.

[manic bobcat]

Can you link me?

[burnt lantern]

Guys please someone help me

I'm 24 runs in and I nearly beat final boss on his (spoiler)||second phase|| 2 times now, but I always seem to fail because of those urns

I have so many good boons but I always fail

Please any tips?

[rough token]

Try to || clear space around you first ||

[burnt lantern]

Indeed I have tried doing that

I miss the urns though

[rough token]

Hmm, okay. Do you use Greater Reflex?

(2 dashes)

[burnt lantern]

Yes

[rough token]

Okay

Try to dash into an urn to break it, then dash away from it

[burnt lantern]

What I did was dash through

To break a lot. Guess that was bad.

[brisk trail]

Anyway, if my words were aggressive, I would like to apologize politely. I don't know the nuances of English

[past mirage]

@manic bobcat https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/2/3030299604457248239/
I remembered that it was more controversial, but I either misremember, or posts have been deleted/edited.

[burnt lantern]

Thanks for the tips doe

This run I did him quick without losing any of my death defies (had three), but then on his (spoiler)||second phase|| I fricking lost them all

My build was Aegis with crazy weakness and frost effects

[manic bobcat]

Anyway, if my words were aggressive, I would like to apologize politely. I don't know the nuances of English
@brisk trail your English is good and your sincerity shines through. No worry mate.

[burnt lantern]

I was melting the Styx enemies in seconds

[past mirage]

Oh. Here's one that is far less subtle. https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/2/1738883810795631526/

[gusty slate]

What

[rough token]

Wut

[past mirage]

Just to make that clear, I don't endorse this kind of expression.
Bottom line is, criticism about character art isn't new and will likely continue, but let's just respect the artists' decisions. Doing overhauls for fan-art is fine in my opinion, but unconstructive attacks like the linked discussion don't help anybody.

[burnt lantern]

Lmao

[manic bobcat]

I mean the feedback in this server was p constructive

They even include a picture of what they think look nicer

[burnt lantern]

The game's art is gorgeous and very unique

[manic bobcat]

That's more effort than most lol

[burnt lantern]

Never seen something like it tbh

They did an amazing job capturing each character's quirks and matching their looks with them

Dionysus is my favorite in that regard by far

Bro are you writing an essay XD

[rough token]

...no...

Maybe...

On my phone, so much slower than normal

[burnt lantern]

Oh my apologies

[rough token]

My main issue with the feedback was their justification, which was basing it on gendered beauty standards. While I'd still disagree with it based on my personal preference, that was what I didn't like. However, I respect them sharing their feedback, and don't mean to bash that

[brisk trail]

thx bro @manic bobcat

[rough token]

I'm also writing a lot xD

[burnt lantern]

Feedback has to be useful

I'm pretty sure that that person's feedback was very trivial in the grand scheme of the game

[gusty slate]

Zagreus requests to be taller

[burnt lantern]

LOOOOL

[rough token]

Feedback doesn't have to be mechanically useful

[burnt lantern]

I'll refund I'm warning you Super Giant

[rough token]

It just has to be about the game

Afaik

[void vigil]

hey, please keep it clean

[quaint bramble]

Yea the art portrayal is such a difficult thing to critique because of how subjective it is. Often times it comes across as very patriarchal or limited. The critique is of course still valid, but the effect is has on the game is minimal, whereas the effect non-traditionally beautiful people being represented in games could have is larger.

[burnt lantern]

I agree with Unseen

[manic bobcat]

I mean it can just be as simple as I prefer this better than that

[burnt lantern]

Lemme read what they had to say I wanna judge

[brisk trail]

heh

This is fun

[burnt lantern]

The guy in the comments took it right out of my mouth, "ya'll just weak."

[narrow hemlock]

op from the first linked thread still makes me a bit sus, im just inherently going to side eye anyone who says the game's literal housemaid is more feminine than other female characters in the game. that whole thread got out of hand because of how things were worded in a fairly brow raising manner

[brisk trail]

Theseus killed me when he had barely any help left

[manic bobcat]

Oopfta

[gusty slate]

He does that

[brisk trail]

I just want to kill those guys once ugh

[gusty slate]

I usually save my call for his second phase

[brisk trail]

probably a good idea

[burnt lantern]

Take them one at a time (Asterion first)

[rough token]

game's literal housemaid

I think you meant:

game's essential flying Gorgon head

[manic bobcat]

Who do you focus first?

[burnt lantern]

His attacks are fairly easy to dodge and very predictable

[brisk trail]

the bull

[narrow hemlock]

well yes but shes basically a housemaid lmao, doesnt detract from the point

[burnt lantern]

Just be careful of the spear throws

[brisk trail]

His attacks are fairly easy to dodge and very predictable
@burnt lantern when he starts summoning the gods it get's more annoying

[manic bobcat]

Dusa voice and Meg voice are cute

I love them

[narrow hemlock]

theseus is very easy to ignore

[manic bobcat]

Cries in EM3

[narrow hemlock]

meanwhile asterius will chase you around the whole arena if you want to go after theseus first

[manic bobcat]

Bomb goes brrrrrr

[brisk trail]

I ignore him, focus the bull, and then focus theseus

[burnt lantern]

@brisk trail when the gods attack Theseus stops focusing you for a while

[narrow hemlock]

well theseus is still the easier one to ignore in em, you have to be super careful with his bombs, but he largely just rides around the ring doing his own thing

[brisk trail]

He has bombs what

[quaint bramble]

It can just take forever if you’re playing conservatively to find windows when his shield isn’t blocking and there isn’t a god throwing lighting at you at the same time, but it does happen reliably for the most part

[narrow hemlock]

meanwhile once asterius gets spinning thats like instantly a third of the arena coverage gone

[rough token]

Don't worry about it Goldre

Much later stuff

[manic bobcat]

He has bombs what
Don't worry about it yet

[rough token]

much later

[brisk trail]

okie

Now I'm a bit scared

[burnt lantern]

Oi wtf

[narrow hemlock]

its fun!

[burnt lantern]

I don't want ain't no spinning attacks

[rough token]

It is!

[burnt lantern]

I don't want any chariots

Pls no

They're great as they already are ;-;

[gusty slate]

EM3 boss 3 is where I lose my DDs usually

Many tears shed

[burnt lantern]

The easiest way to beat Elysium is with dash damage imo

[brisk trail]

EM3?

[manic bobcat]

Don't confuse Goldre lol

[burnt lantern]

Just move around and let the effects do the job. Jab the bosses here and there.

[gusty slate]

||EM3|| is nothing special, it's just the code to break my hope

[burnt lantern]

What's this EM3

Care to explain the acronym

[rough token]

Post final boss >.>

[gusty slate]

As I said, the code to break my hope >_>

[rough token]

We're going to stop talking about it here

[burnt lantern]

Is it a spoiler?

[manic bobcat]

Extreme Measure, just so you know the acronym

[burnt lantern]

I didn't complete the game yet

[manic bobcat]

I won't explain it

You will get there

It's fun

[rough token]

It is

[burnt lantern]

Tbh I have a feeling that after completing the game the gods bamboozle Zagreus

Idk why but I fear that it happens

[rough token]

You'll find out ^.^

[burnt lantern]

Demeter lookin' kinda suspicious

[narrow hemlock]

if you want to be technical, theyre the ones being bamboozled because they think zag wants to escape to see them, but thats not what his actual goal is

[gusty slate]

Pos is best uncle though

[narrow hemlock]

theres a few implications in dialogue that there will be consequences to them finding out whats really going on

[manic bobcat]

Pos is the creepy uncle lol

[flat vapor]

no possibility for two sided bamboozlement?

[gusty slate]

I thought that was Zeus

[rough token]

Onyx I approve of your new gang

[flat vapor]

pos was a little creepy at first but he grew on me

thank you

i'm not beholding myself to one weapon anymore :v

[rough token]

XD

[narrow hemlock]

nah the gods are focused on their newest fixation, their underworld family member they had no idea about, i dont see any deliberate bamboozlement happening on their end

[gusty slate]

idk man, there are a lot of secret agendas...

[narrow hemlock]

theyre mostly fawning over him like a kid does when they get a shiny new toy

[manic bobcat]

They might have beef with Hades himself

[burnt lantern]

Had to change my name

[narrow hemlock]

its mostly the older generation olympians (zeus, demeter, posi) that have any direct issue with hades

the younger generation not so much

most of the younger ones dont really comment much about hades at all

[flat vapor]

the younger generation's issues are with each other

[narrow hemlock]

yeah tbh lol

[burnt lantern]

The Olympians I trust the most are Athena, Poseidon, Artemis, and Hermes

[flat vapor]

cough athena/aphrodite duo convo cough

[burnt lantern]

Ares is kinda cool too, but he's... Idk I feel like he's doing just to see violence

[narrow hemlock]

i trust ares, hes earnest about his thirst for bloodlust. thats honestly all he cares about, hes not into the drama so much as he is the carnage going on. thats why his and arty's duo is so amusing to me, she just takes out her hunting gear and ares is instantly

ares represents the brutality of war, of course he wants to see violence.

[burnt lantern]

Yeah he's very straightforward

[narrow hemlock]

but hes honest about that

[burnt lantern]

He straight up be countin' your kills lmao

[narrow hemlock]

and hes very proud of you!

[burnt lantern]

Indeed

[narrow hemlock]

ares praises you asmr

[gusty slate]

Ares sets up TV Time to tune into Zag kills em all again! - Ares

[burnt lantern]

Why doesn't he come down himself to help out

Live show

[rough token]

Aight, I gotta head out. Breakfast calls (or that's my stomach, not sure). Cy'all!

[burnt lantern]

Cya

[gusty slate]

Something keeps underworlders in and otherworlders out

[narrow hemlock]

unless you're a psychopomp

[flat vapor]

rules, maybe

[burnt lantern]

The Olympians can probs wreck Cerberus (I would never want that to happen though)

He a good boi

[gusty slate]

Besides, no one wants to intrude on Hades' ground

[burnt lantern]

Only wants snacc from Satyr

[flat vapor]

i don't think the olympians are quite interested in messing up the underworld's flow

[burnt lantern]

Yum yum

It's all hypothetical Onyx

[narrow hemlock]

dogs were one of ares's symbols, he'd be low on my list of olympians i expect to attack cerberus lol

[flat vapor]

aside from hermes, none of them even had an interest in the chthonic gods until now

[burnt lantern]

Why do you have that list in the first place

[narrow hemlock]

its a hypothetical list

[flat vapor]

cerb is red, ares is red

[burnt lantern]

I would rather change its name to "List of Olympians Who I Expect to Pet Cerberus."

[flat vapor]

obvs they wouldn't attack each other

[burnt lantern]

I'm not so sure about him accepting the pets though

He might like Artemis

[flat vapor]

athena would try to keep up her demeanor while cerb is licking her but eventually give in when nobody's watching

[burnt lantern]

Lmao can defo imagine that

[gusty slate]

Dio is busy drinking with Cerb.

[burnt lantern]

Dionysus would feed cerberus alcohol

Calling it right now

[worthy egret]

crashes in

HE WOULDNT

[flat vapor]

aren't grapes toxic to dogs lol

[worthy egret]

YEAH THEY ARE

[gusty slate]

Cerb has a stomach of steel

[burnt lantern]

Dionysus wants Cerberus to enjoy "the fineries of life."

[worthy egret]

Nah

Dio would PET

[brisk trail]

Is this how Artemis bonds with her family, finally? Everyone loves the dog.

[flat vapor]

there's alcohol made for dogs out there, dio would invent it

[burnt lantern]

An innocent venture I believe

[worthy egret]

List of olympians who would imemdiately pet cerberus: everyone

[gusty slate]

Could also just feast lol

[ashen moon]

nah nah
dio would see the dog
go "Bro ill drink to the cool dog"
and pass out drunk

[gusty slate]

Wait, demeter would?

[ashen moon]

i feel demeter would like
poke the dog
then walk off

[burnt lantern]

Demeter hates animals I feel

She lost interest in life n' all that

[flat vapor]

demeter would be the one to tell everyone off while they're petting the dog and just be condescending the entire time

[ashen moon]

then proceed to punch dad
because you know
m y t h o l o g y demands it

[burnt lantern]

Exactly Onyx

[narrow hemlock]

new comical side plot: hermes and ares break into the underworld to steal cerberus. 'why hermes' hermes was also a god of thieves. cue funny series of events including cerberus scratching himself idly as ares and hermes argue over who has the better idea

[worthy egret]

Zeus would pet the wrong head and laugh while hes being torn ti shreds

[burnt lantern]

Oof

[ashen moon]

aphrodite would try to pet
all the heads
at once

[burnt lantern]

How...

[manic bobcat]

Ares: ||"You would be pleased to know Nyx and I intent to meet"||

[burnt lantern]

Hades would be mad

[manic bobcat]

No Ares, I don't think I do.

[worthy egret]

Zagreus: stops them ok hermes what is going on here
Hermes and Ares: we're stealing cerb
Zag:
Zag: IM IN

[flat vapor]

"why, this dog has a spark of life to him, nephew! quite unlike your lord father there, i'm sure." - zeus, probably

[burnt lantern]

OOF

[narrow hemlock]

shjhdksfk wow that burn

[burnt lantern]

Triple escape with the family dog

[ashen moon]

I still think my favorite burn in this game
is the sundial conversation

[gusty slate]

lol side plot becomes turn based combat

[worthy egret]

... Transistor?

[brisk trail]

Ares would definitely be okay with killing everyone in the way really not understanding what's messed up about it. "They're Underworld gods, they die all the time."

[ashen moon]

"Zags died like a bazillion times whats one more"

[gusty slate]

We gotta add more game functions we're already at ||datingsim, fishingsim... what else we got? house decorating sim||

[worthy egret]

Halt you two only i am allowed to kill Meg

[narrow hemlock]

its fine zag is like a phoenix

[burnt lantern]

Bruh a god on god fight wouldn't be that fast

[worthy egret]

Alecto is fair game tho

[flat vapor]

walking sim portion walking sim portion

[ashen moon]

walking sim portion is the portion right before the final boss

the dramatic walk up for effect

[burnt lantern]

@flat vapor you mean to say "Strand-type portion"

[worthy egret]

Animal Crossing: Hell Horizons

[gusty slate]

Wait a second, where's my Zag dance

[flat vapor]

idea: hades trading card game

[worthy egret]

Bold of you to assume ZAG CAN DANCE

[burnt lantern]

Imagine what the Doom Slayer would do in Hades

[narrow hemlock]

wait hold that thought im gonna dm you smth

[ashen moon]

You know i think a lot about how like
the gods have to specifically choose to put their boon in another room with another gods boon already in it
like "hey you know one of us is gonna get mad at what he picks right"
"yeah itll be kinda funny to watch him squirm"

[burnt lantern]

I want Zag to the the kazotsky kick

[gusty slate]

They deliberately put boons next to each other, whose the better family member! Besides we have to give him a tutorial on Olympus family relations 101

[ashen moon]

ah

[burnt lantern]

It's called a Trial of the Gods because they test Zagreus to see which of them he favors

[ashen moon]

thanks bot

[gusty slate]

Bot is ruthless, near-miss cannot activate!

[burnt lantern]

They just wanna see who he likes more. You break their expectations: "UNGRATEFUL SCUM!"

[ashen moon]

i really hate aphrodites lines for it cuz its like
"please woman"

[burnt lantern]

Aphro gets really entitled when you don't take her Boons in the trial

[ashen moon]

it make sense cuz its you know

[gusty slate]

Ares: Impressive display of killing, here's a boon!

[ashen moon]

aphro

[burnt lantern]

Of course It fits her character

Not complaining

[gusty slate]

Athena: "I was first to contact you... "

[burnt lantern]

Loool

[flat vapor]

athena be like: "my fam does it so ig i'll do it too"

[ashen moon]

its just
"woman i always take your flourish when im using aspect of demeter what more do you want"

[flat vapor]

and then have a really annoying trial

[burnt lantern]

"I was first why no take boon ;-;"

[ashen moon]

honestly i dont mind athena trial

[gusty slate]

Athena trial Elysium gives me nightmares

[narrow hemlock]

it was worse

[ashen moon]

honestly out of all the new trials
arti and demeter scare me the most

[burnt lantern]

The Elysium butterfly ball fight is annoying

[manic bobcat]

Arti used to be a cakewalk

[narrow hemlock]

why artemis, everyone agrees shes like objectively the easiest trial

[burnt lantern]

That thing has armor for says

[manic bobcat]

Until they buff her

Now she is scary

[ashen moon]

when did they update the trials?

[manic bobcat]

The Blood Price update

So the lastest major one, p recent

[ashen moon]

ah
i skipped nighty night and longest winter

so i ahve no idea what changes happened when

I got so overwhelmed i restarted my save to like get caught up to speed

[manic bobcat]

She has more and faster circles

[flat vapor]

athena was just straight occasional invulnerability

now she's a little more manageable

[burnt lantern]

Athena is all about defenses and deflection after all

[ashen moon]

like athenas annoying

[narrow hemlock]

athena was a lot worse when the greatshields had very little vulnerability time lmao the greatshield nerf was honestly one of the best things

[ashen moon]

but doesnt really increase my risk of dying

arti and demeter on the other hand
o o f

[burnt lantern]

My worst enemy are Elysium shields I agree

athena was a lot worse when the greatshields had very little vulnerability time lmao the greatshield nerf was honestly one of the best things

[flat vapor]

when athena keeps her shield on exalted eyes long enough for them to respawn

[burnt lantern]

Pardon me now. I gotta go.

[narrow hemlock]

theyre more managable than they used to be. can still be pretty awful but it used to be even harder to get a hit in on elites

[ashen moon]

ill always take a longer fight over a fight with
lots of tracking damaging circles

at least
if im not running tight deadline

[flat vapor]

poseidon can be surprisingly challenging

[narrow hemlock]

i rarely do tight deadline bc the time limit just stresses me out more than anything but wasnt pre nerf athena greatshields basically a run killer more often than not

[flat vapor]

yes

[worthy egret]

Zeus trial be like

[ashen moon]

sounds about right

[worthy egret]

so anyway i started blasting

[narrow hemlock]

zeus on any given day tbh

[flat vapor]

trials in general are more dangerous, but they're also prettier and not circles

tradeoffs

[ashen moon]

you know i got smouldering air once
i kinda dont like it
mainly cuz i like greater calls too much

yes this was random thought due to your username dont worry about it

[flat vapor]

have you tried it with athena or aphrodite call

[ashen moon]

i tried it with zeus
and it was
lots of dps

[flat vapor]

or dio call, for that matter

[ashen moon]

like
its good dont get me wrong

i just dont like it cuz i like my greater calls since i tend to have a tendency to hold onto my calls

[flat vapor]

eh, greater calls tend to be just longer duration anyways, and for a longer charge time too

[ashen moon]

||I also like hearing the dialogue from the final boss where you use a greater call since i havent heard all of them yet||

i need to mess around more with Poseidon call
its fun

[gusty slate]

That new boon that makes it last longer and draws in foes makes pos call a blast

[flat vapor]

getting off a call every 5 seconds is much faster than waiting a minute or so for a greater call, which for many is just... longer duration anyways

[ashen moon]

yes

[flat vapor]

but i get your point

[ashen moon]

honestly think smouldering air is

kinda overpowered

since like
spamming calls every what

5 seconds

[narrow hemlock]

a lot of rooms go by so fast you wont even charge up to a greater call

[ashen moon]

will always be better than greater calls

[flat vapor]

it's silly and probably does need a nerf lol

but they haven't done it yet

[ashen moon]

like
maybe halfing its current rate of gain

would make it more balanced

[narrow hemlock]

eh but smouldering air doesnt really fit in every build either

[ashen moon]

without like
gutting it

[flat vapor]

nooo you can't just turn invulnerable every 5 seconds how am i supposed to kill you
haha god gauge go brrr

[ashen moon]

ares call is still my favorite cuz i like building for blade rifts even though i get to do it so rarely

[narrow hemlock]

just bc you can use call more rapidly doesnt immediately make it superior imo but theres some calls i think are suited better greater call than minor

idk its situational

[flat vapor]

that's true

[ashen moon]

theres like
one call i can think of
you wouldnt want to constantly spam

and thats arti

[flat vapor]

i wouldn't want to take artemis call with smouldering, unless i really have nothing else

[ashen moon]

and maybe ares

[narrow hemlock]

yeah arty call blows without greater tbh

[manic bobcat]

Smouldering on Artemis call is bad

[flat vapor]

and if i manage to get vicious cycle, i'd prefer a greater call for ares

[ashen moon]

but like
7/9

aint bad

[manic bobcat]

Fair enough

Smouldering with Zeus Dio or Aphrodite is busted

Especially Aphrodite

[flat vapor]

poseidon call is... okay ig

but zeus/dio/aphro/athena it's amazing

[manic bobcat]

Charmed enemies do 2k damage to eaxh other

2k

Yikes

[narrow hemlock]

dio is def one i generally prefer as minor calls over greater call

[flat vapor]

me charming a raker during the hydra fight and it getting the kill for me 🤧

[ashen moon]

i have a tendency to hold my calls
so smouldering kinda hurts me
since ill use minors in rooms and such im just
not always thinking about it

[manic bobcat]

Just spam it on cd with Aphrodite

Especially in boss fights

What the enemy health bar go down

[ashen moon]

I also find that it leads to incredibly boring things since youre just kinda sitting there calling instead of using a moveset

[flat vapor]

i tend to use calls as a panic button anyways, i'll only ever save it during bosses bc i want to chunk a piece of hp off or i want to hear unique lines

[narrow hemlock]

u can attack and use ur call button at the same time

[unkempt sleet]

That's an advanced tecnique though, I only began doing it a few weeks ago

[flat vapor]

athena call is the most panic button-y of the calls so i find smouldering works great on it

i'm about to get hit? no i'm not ❤️

[ashen moon]

honestly i like athena better as a greater call

cuz for me its
"oh gauge is full time to just turn off brain and mash buttons"

"unga bunga demeter fists go brrr"

[craggy surge]

Wait if you have smouldering do you get the effect of the full charge still? Like aphro call getting the damage too?

[nimble ocean]

i really need to start using calls more often.. i almost never use them if they're not 100% charged, and not during [mini]boss fights

[manic bobcat]

Wait if you have smouldering do you get the effect of the full charge still? Like aphro call getting the damage too?
No

That's why it's bad on Artemis

Or Ares

[craggy surge]

Oh wack. But isnt that negative synergy with aphro as well since her call only has damage at full charge? It feels weird that a duo would have negative synergy with itself

[manic bobcat]

I don't use Aphrodite for her damage

In fact a well timed controlled enemy can do 2k damage per charge

Which well outweighs the 2k5 damage at full

[craggy surge]

True but it is still technically negative synergy with its own prereq, which feels weird to me

[manic bobcat]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brisk trail]

Imagine thinking the gun is good

If there was a way to not have to reload I would like it

[gusty slate]

There are upgrades for that

[brisk trail]

aspect?

[manic bobcat]

Yee

[brisk trail]

I kinda be hating on alecto

[gusty slate]

Red Blood

[manic bobcat]

Trash God

[brisk trail]

Just died to her

I am blaming gun

quick question

[manic bobcat]

quick answer

[brisk trail]

eyy

:3

same

But I'll let Kaleikv ask first

i have done everything to free sisyphus

but i cant get the nyx dialoge

like talking it out with meg and hades

am i missing something?

[manic bobcat]

Better ask in #h1-story-discussion

But I don't think so

[brisk trail]

oh ok

[manic bobcat]

Maybe do one or two more runs

[brisk trail]

dude

[manic bobcat]

If not you can F10 in game

[brisk trail]

i did it on my 40th run

now i died like 100+ times

[manic bobcat]

Ok then you can hit that

[brisk trail]

Two questions

[manic bobcat]

Two answers

[brisk trail]

lmao stop fox

1. The weapons are stuttering while they rotate any way to fix this
2. Why is the darkness always applied to bow or shield(it's gone bow, shield, bow shield, gun, bow, shield, etc.)only switching of occasionally

[manic bobcat]

Actually @brisk trail you have the ||Administrative Chamber|| unlocked yes?

1. Not sure what you mean
2. The Dark Thirst buff should rotate between all weapons. You are just unlucky.

[brisk trail]

Sad, because I want to play with them all

yup

i do

[manic bobcat]

Yeah then idk xD, could be a bug

[brisk trail]

damn that sucks

then im forced to redo my profile

in screwed :/

[manic bobcat]

You might get a response from the dev if yoy F10

But other than that I'm not sure what you are missing

[terse axle]

my game just updated, but i see no patch notes?

[manic bobcat]

Probably bug fixes

It happened to me, too

Nothing changed afaik

[terse axle]

it's version 32030 now

[brisk trail]

then im forced to redo my profile
@brisk trail 1.0 save file(at least when it comes out)exists

?

Are you not going to make a 1.0 save file

In that case, yeah then would be the best

[narrow hemlock]

theres likely not gonna be patch notes for each of these small updates they push out, theyre largely bug and performance fixes

the update was pretty large beyond just adding new content and theres a lot more reports from players even just on steam about issues

[brisk trail]

yeah but i dont want to lose the other one

[tepid plover]

Whats f10 for?

[brisk trail]

bug report

basically

[tepid plover]

Ah ok

[brisk trail]

so

privileged status

or family favorite

[manic bobcat]

Up to debate

And ultimately up to you

Both are viable, both require different planning

[brisk trail]

What do you use

[manic bobcat]

For my particular case, I run Family Favourite

But that depends on a lot of spoiler factors

I recall in the early stage of my save Priv Status is my go to, at least starting out.

Make sure you plan to get some sort of status effects of course

[gusty slate]

I never used Priv Status because I didn't want to be forced to do a certain build

[manic bobcat]

Which is fair

[brisk trail]

Might just do family favorite

for that reason

[manic bobcat]

Yeah both are viable

Good luck!

[gusty slate]

Of course both have their place, I switch them every so often, so my never is false actually*

99% of the time sorta becomes never though

[manic bobcat]

Yeah, I say that because a lot of the times people (in general, not in this case) usually wonder if there is a "meta" build for Priv vs Fam Fav

And there is no meta for that

[gusty slate]

People wonder if there's a meta in general tbh

[brisk trail]

olympian favor or dark foresight?

[manic bobcat]

Olympian Favor

[brisk trail]

Figured

[manic bobcat]

I use Foresight for like 15% of the times, but for funsies though

[brisk trail]

gods pride or gods legacy?

[manic bobcat]

50/50

Depends on weapon and gameplan

[brisk trail]

20% more for epic does sound nice

[gusty slate]

This game is pretty much, you do what's best for you lul

[brisk trail]

I'm bad at choosing I know, I just like to do in-depth research

[gusty slate]

You do have to use them all eventually though, there's a prophecy

[buoyant merlin]

ooo another update

with no patch notes..

😢

[gusty slate]

Patchnotes are overrated

[buoyant merlin]

hush

[gusty slate]

Just gotta bribe some people with nectars for that info

[brisk trail]

This game is pretty much, you do what's best for you lul
@gusty slate Basically, which one would you reccomend

*I am also going to ask about fated authority/persuasion yes

[manic bobcat]

Also 50/50

The Legacy/Pride and Authority/Persuasion thing is solidly 50/50

[brisk trail]

In that case the only one I'm questioning is gods pride/legacy

[manic bobcat]

I have seen people swear by both

I myself switch between them depending on weapon

[buoyant merlin]

"god damn it Zag.. you can't just patch everything up with nector you know that right?"

liquid pouring into glass

"Hmm?"

[gusty slate]

nectar doesn't work? You're a shrewd one... plops 2 ambrosia down on the table

[brisk trail]

Well more legendary's/duo's sounds nice, but so does more epic's

1.0 allows certain upgrades have both active for a lot of darkness

[gusty slate]

That would be pretty funny actually

Zag has only been using 50% of his power

[buoyant merlin]

My ex would need like 40 nectors

to acknowledge I exist

Wow fox

[gusty slate]

Proxy strikes again

Can I get a censor counter?

[past mirage]

Proxy is like the Spanish inquisition

[gusty slate]

You don't expect 'em

[manic bobcat]

Sigh

It's not a bad word

[gusty slate]

That's what they all say

[manic bobcat]

Just a word that contains a bad word

[gusty slate]

See bad words only have power because we give them that power...

[manic bobcat]

I mean I can't say c ocky without being flagged

The tyranny of the bots must end

Lmao

[past mirage]

See, I knew it.

[burnt lantern]

Guys need help

[brisk trail]

So in your personal opinion, legacy or pride(just in general)

[manic bobcat]

Depends on weapon

[brisk trail]

in general tho, I don't have enough darkness to upgrade both

[past mirage]

There is a known phenomenon with overzealous censorship bots, called the Scun thorpe problem. It happens when they look for certain strings and censor every word that contains them.

[manic bobcat]

Give me a weapon, I'll tell you

[past mirage]

(Remove the space, obviously)

[brisk trail]

Give me a weapon, I'll tell you
@manic bobcat I switch weapons every time

For the darkness buff

[manic bobcat]

Well go the plus Legendary and Duo then

That's more fun imo

[brisk trail]

Aight

[burnt lantern]

I have to choose between Ferocious Guard (+20% damage and speed for 10s after blocking), Sudden Rush (faster shield rush charge), and Pulverizing Blow (double attack). I already have Breaching Rush. My boons rn are Rare Divine Strike with deflection, Tidal Dash (pushes enemies away and does damage), and Artemis' Aid (call which shoots a seeking arrow which does a lot of damage with crit chance), I have rare chaos +attack boon, +90% damage with backstabs, blinding flash (which makes enemies take more backstab damage when hit with an attack which can deflect), extra damage against bosses from knock-back damage, and +21% attack speed.

[rough token]

#h1-builds-and-combat would be a better place to ask for build advice

[burnt lantern]

I sent it there

Thanks

[rough token]

o7

[distant ruin]

What was in today's update?

I'm guessing minor bug fixes?

Since it was so small

[rough token]

Most likely, especially since no patch notes

[distant ruin]

yeah

[flat vapor]

likely hotfixes

[burnt lantern]

Is there anyone here with a lot of experience?

[narrow hemlock]

theres still a lot of users reporting issues since the update so likely the team is working to address some of that

[rough token]

Depends on how you define a lot, but probably :P

[manic bobcat]

Is there anyone here with a lot of experience?
I have a lot of experience eating ramen

Does that help?

[burnt lantern]

It does

[rough token]

I actually don't have that

[flat vapor]

the entire #h1-high-heat-strategies channel is just experienced people debating with each other

[gusty slate]

What's experience?

[rough token]

I've had ramen exactly three times

[burnt lantern]

Oh seems perfect

Thanks for the channel link

[distant ruin]

Wow my fps is varying in the 18~~25 range for some reason now

welp

[gusty slate]

I know that feel 😦

[rough token]

#h1-tech-support :P unless it's a pc-side problem

[gusty slate]

Turning everything to as low as possible and setting priority to above normal is all Igot

My potato setup still chugging

[manic bobcat]

How potato?

My 7 yo laptop runs it just fine :3

It lags in Elysium sometimes but whatever

[gusty slate]

There's a class system in potato realm?

How cruel

[rough token]

Yup

Mashed, Baked, Raw

[gusty slate]

At least the cake is real... right?

[distant ruin]

@rough token it started today so I dont think its pc related

[rough token]

Then yeah, bring it up in #h1-tech-support or check #h1-tech-fixes

[distant ruin]

ok thanks

[swift falcon]

Is it not dumb that you can reroll boons and get the same ones in the pool? Like come onnnn

Sorry for the salt but jeez that’s annoying haha

[rough token]

It's been brought up a few times in feedback xD

If I get the exact same boons I'll usually report it, since that feels like a bug, but one or two seems to be (unfortunately) a part of the mechanic

[swift falcon]

I just had a reroll where 2 of the 3 were the same

I feel like that just defeats the purpose of the reroll

At most it should be 1 of 3 I think

[dawn tiger]

You can get a different rarity

[brisk trail]

Yeah, a lower one.

[dawn tiger]

Which is honestly most of my reroll attempts

When I’m not fishing for like a duo

[burnt lantern]

I HAVE DONE IT

I HAVE BEATEN THE GAME IN 34MIN ON MY 25TH RUN

YEEEES

[rough token]

Nice!

[brisk trail]

Hope I'm able to beat the game by my 30th run

I think my 26th or 27th attempt was last

I can't even get past elysium smh

[narrow hemlock]

just play at your own pace

[tepid plover]

Any tips to beat theseus and asterius?

[rough token]

Focus Asterius first

Take your time, practice your dodge timing

[tepid plover]

Doesn't theseus become enraged once you kill asterius?

[rough token]

Kinda, yeah. But it's still better to focus one of them first, and it's easier to just avoid Theseus

[tepid plover]

Alright thanks

[rough token]

o7 best of luck!

[brisk trail]

struggling with them to, good luck

bruh

moment

I just checked and I have 1237 darkness because I keep forgetting to use it

Big brain

[bright pecan]

@brisk trail Dude we all start out that way. I remember when I was very new I couldn't even beat Meg and when I got to Thesesus it felt like final boss battle. Then ||Hades|| came and it took me a few tries to take ||his|| life down. Only to find out ||HE HAS A SECOND LIFE!|| Now I can't see myself losing to anything under 15 heat handicaps.

As you play more and as you get more darkness, you'll get better and the game will get easier.

[rough token]

Dude

Spoiler tags that

Most of that is a spoiler

XD

Also redacted

[unkempt sleet]

The Final Boss's name is a spoiler

[rough token]

@bright pecan

[bright pecan]

I did that before your message was even posted. Lol. So I'm not sure why you keep at it.

[rough token]

Also the name

[bright pecan]

How is the name a spoiler?

NANI!?

[gusty slate]

Hades is an old man we don't fight him

Such a workaholic he won't

[bright pecan]

There. Now we can pretend Vegeta is the final boss. I'm not sure what discussions happens here if talking about every aspect of the game would be a spoiler.

[rough token]

Great, now you've spoiled it :P

[bright pecan]

Saying Thesesus is an enemy is also a spoiler

Saying Meg is a boss is also a spoiler. I can keep going.

[rough token]

We draw the line at a certain point

[gusty slate]

Final boss is

Which is true in some aspect...

[brisk trail]

@brisk trail Dude we all start out that way. I remember when I was very new I couldn't even beat Meg and when I got to Thesesus it felt like final boss battle. Then ||Hades|| came and it took me a few tries to take his life down. Only to find out ||HE HAS A SECOND LIFE!|| Now I can't see myself losing to anything under 15 heat handicaps.

As you play more and as you get more darkness, you'll get better and the game will get easier.
@bright pecan The question is should I hit those spoilers

[bright pecan]

I've redacted that the final boss is a ||man|| as well. Can't be too careful

Just busting your Obols

[gusty slate]

Redacted is a true villain

[bright pecan]

You'll literally never see them coming

[nimble ocean]

the Fund never sleeps

[rough token]

@brisk trail I'd recommend against it

[nimble ocean]

their people are everywhere

[rough token]

It's much better to discover for yourself

[bright pecan]

I agree. I kind of made the assumption that everybody that came to the discord already beat the game for some reason. Lol. Bad assumption.

[brisk trail]

I won't click it then

[rough token]

Definitely an incorrect assumption, glad we cleared it up ^.^

[void vigil]

this channel is spoiler free, but in some other channels like #h1-builds-and-combat and #h1-story-discussion you are free to talk spoilers however much you want

[gusty slate]

This channel we just don't talk about Redacted right?

[nimble ocean]

well, yes, but actually no

[rough token]

We keep the || pact || on the down low usually

[gusty slate]

Roger

Someone ban patchnotes for spoilers

[rough token]

Other than that, probably just significant relationship events

Oh oops

Forgot they included those in the patch notes now

[brisk trail]

idk what the pact is but

[gusty slate]

You aren't a cultist member yet

[agile saddle]

Was there a companion added with this update?

[brisk trail]

Why do the ||4th aspects|| say "the fates will something or other"

Are they coming in 1.0 or

[rough token]

You'll find out ^.^ (if you really want to know I can tell you)

[flat vapor]

they're ||already available||

keep playing

[rough token]

That^

[brisk trail]

I'll just keep playing then(don't tell me)

[rough token]

o7 best of luck!

[flat vapor]

trust the process is all i'll say

[gusty slate]

Finding out the gateway to the legendary aspect isn't really explained anywhere though, would never have known to ||unlock all aspects of that weapon and/or 5 blood||

Especially since I wanted to hoard

[brisk trail]

is twin fists' 4th aspect available?

Not yet.

[gusty slate]

I wish

[rough token]

People have put up suggestions in #hades-feedback , though I'm sure at this point the devs have decided or nearly decided

Doesn't mean we can't keep throwing ideas at them

[worthy egret]

Hey you guys want something adorable

[brisk trail]

?

[worthy egret]

My moms friends daughter wanted to see my ganes

Shes five

[brisk trail]

yes

[worthy egret]

So i showed her hades of course after a warning that its lots of fights and slashing

[rough token]

I like where this is going

[worthy egret]

And so

[brisk trail]

tell

[worthy egret]

Me: okay SO which weapon do we take?
Her: This one! points at Arthur
Me: (im so proud)

[gusty slate]

Dissapoint

[rough token]

Does Artemis' Disciple have a Disciple?

[worthy egret]

Her companions of choice are Battie and Antos

[brisk trail]

arthur?

[worthy egret]

Me: so do we make it easy or do we make it hard
Her: HARD
Me: starts turning heat way up

Later

Her: DONT DIE
Me: YOU SAID TO MAKE IT HARD

[brisk trail]

lol

[worthy egret]

arthur?
@brisk trail
Final aspect of Stygius

I FAILED AN EREBUS IN FRONT OF HER AND I NEVWR FELT SUCH SHAME

[brisk trail]

No idea what anyone is saying

[worthy egret]

Her: what are you taking??
Me: Darkness!
Her: OH NO
Me: THATS A GOOD THING WE ARE THE PRINCE OF THE UNDERWORLD WE LIKE DARKNESS

[gusty slate]

It's just another cultist in their natural habitat

[brisk trail]

lmao

[gusty slate]

Pacts, heat, aspects

[rough token]

Cultist jargon

[worthy egret]

Me: so what do i take
Her: KEY
Me: gets punched by a wretch
Her, pointing at the wretch: is that the key

[gusty slate]

Tsk, we're so obviously a cult it's not funny

[rough token]

:3

[brisk trail]

A key that can kill you yes best key

[worthy egret]

Me: this is demeter, the goddess of harvest and seaso-
Her: frantically pointing at a chaos gate

[rough token]

Good! Chaos gate is good!

[brisk trail]

Am I just unlucky, because I've never seen a demeter

[worthy egret]

Me: so do you know anything about greek mythology
Her: no :(
Me:
Me: clasps hands together

[flat vapor]

have you reached the final boss yet

[brisk trail]

no

[flat vapor]

then that's why

[worthy egret]

@brisk trail you start seeing her once you reach the final boss

[nimble ocean]

Good! Chaos gate is good!
read in mr. Burns' voice

[narrow hemlock]

demeter will be your scripted first boon once you hit that achievement

[brisk trail]

ok cool

is she good

[worthy egret]

She also put her hand on Athena which i relate to but also honey hands off my monitor

[manic tundra]

she gives good damage

[worthy egret]

Thats good when she wanted to see league she put a foot on my laptop

[flat vapor]

she's uh, pretty cool

[worthy egret]

I also showed her transistor

Me: ok so those are me games
Her: immediately points at Pyre
Me: I DIDNT START THAT YET
Her: WELL NOW YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY

Unfortunately the child also got bored halfway through tartarus

But

It was still adorable

[swift falcon]

That’s cute Arti

[gusty slate]

Just don't go Demeter on us when she breaks away

[worthy egret]

Me: explains Dionysus boons
Her:
Her, pointing at Trippy Shot: bomb

[rough token]

Valid

[worthy egret]

Me, nodding solemnly: bomb.

[swift falcon]

Should put on godmode and give her the sticks lul

[worthy egret]

Shsuduud NOo

I gave her a plush pegasus i cant turn her to violence already

[rough token]

XD

[worthy egret]

SHE DOESNT ENJOY VIOLENT GAMES IM NOT GONNA CHANGE THAT

THATS VALID

[swift falcon]

Not yet anyway 😄

[worthy egret]

Her: do you have any non fighting games
Me, entering an existential crisis: ...No...

[rough token]

Hahaha

[gusty slate]

Hades is also a datingsim, fishingsim, and decorationsim

[rough token]

Don't forget dyingsim

[worthy egret]

Shes five and said NOO when i started fishing

[swift falcon]

Actually speaking of introducing the game to peoples I recently gifted Hades to my sis and she’s already put like 8 hours into it, think she’s digging it

Cool to see

[worthy egret]

I got hades as a gift

For my birthday

And i got devoured lmao

[swift falcon]

Lol

[worthy egret]

All thanks to one dude that recommended transistor to me YEARS ago

[swift falcon]

For your birthday: misery, pain, and death

Enjoy!

[worthy egret]

And a cute protagonist

[rough token]

No, only Death. Misery and Pain aren't in the game

[worthy egret]

And you can date Death!

[rough token]

;)

[void vigil]

Hades is a cute game about friendships and bonds actually

[nimble ocean]

if someone wants those, there are always multiplayer shooters

[worthy egret]

I would die for than

Wait

[rough token]

[nimble ocean]

Than: you will.

[worthy egret]

Than is more of the Please Dont

[swift falcon]

Than seems perpetually stressed and he has a taskmaster of a boss

Poor guy

[worthy egret]

Cursed: imagine than in brighter colours

Full hot pink robe

He would die

[nimble ocean]

have you seen his puffy-eyed pale look? i think he sleeps even less then Zag