not so much
#h1-discussion
novel wasp
nimble ocean
even from himself
frank ibex
novel wasp
zeus
brave thicket
iesous
novel wasp
for maximum gilf
frank ibex
Boons or popularity?
novel wasp
looks
frank ibex
Oh
brave thicket
“IESOUS” is Greek For Jesus meaning — “Hail Zeus”
frank ibex
Accursed
tight axle
wrong one
novel wasp
HAHAHA
frank ibex
I WILL scream
tacit sparrow
Zeus has a stache and a beard
tight axle
steam doesn't copy right
tacit sparrow
Pos has a beard
nimble ocean
Than leaves the topic
tacit sparrow
Hades has a stache
novel wasp
hades is phat
tacit sparrow
Zeus superior brother confirmed
frank ibex
Poseidon looks marginally younger imo
novel wasp
he doesnt go out and do exercise
brave thicket
poseidon go sweeming everyday
brave thicket
zeus is smiling too
pseudo linden
Athena's great, whatchu talking about
tacit sparrow
yea but Zeus' smile is like. subtler?
pseudo linden
She's second on the list of people I never refuse in a trial, besides Artemis
tacit sparrow
Poseidon got big award winning grin that makes him look younger
frank ibex
Zeus looks positively massive. He could look at me and my weak little bones would break
Whoops
brave thicket
yea, he incinerated one of his wife by just revealing his true form
pseudo linden
Sounds like a perk
regal junco
Anyways this server is great and funny
were just making fanfic 24/7
Generally SGG is pretty great
nimble ocean
that's how myths are made
brave thicket
aeneid is a fanfic smh
regal junco
Yuh
frank ibex
I dont even really like isometrics and I've loved every sgg game i've played
brave thicket
dvine comedy is further fanfic
frank ibex
They just do it right ig
regal junco
also imagine how cool it would be like if we got actual models for the characters
even if they just stood in one spot
tacit sparrow
divine comedy is self insert at its prime
brave thicket
what is isometrics
frank ibex
epic but unlikely
regal junco
45 degree angle
frank ibex
Well, possible
regal junco
3D ARTEMIS
brave thicket
would buy
regal junco
also yeah ive played them all except pyre and this is making me want to finish transistor cus I only started that
tacit sparrow
Olympians funko pops
brave thicket
transistor weird
tacit sparrow
is that what they're called
tight axle
Artemis stays in the shadows... except when fighting boss # 3 when she refuses to go anywhere near the shadows
frank ibex
I ahvent played transistor but its wicked cheap on steam rn
brave thicket
iits not that good imo
frank ibex
That being said I might wait to buy it full price since I can afford it and wanna support
brave thicket
storywise its great
frank ibex
🤔
brave thicket
but i dont like the gameplay
frank ibex
Which other sgg games have you played? Would you compare it to any of the others
Like is it more similar do you think to, like, bastion? gameplay-wise
frank ibex
Ahh gotcha
regal junco
Bastion is similar to hades but like slow
Honestly it seems like Hades is by far their best game yet
Cus yknow its amazing
brave thicket
pyre?
regal junco
Didnt play it but I wanted to make a conclusive sounding statemnet
frank ibex
I havent gotten far enough in pyre yet to say but it def. seems like hades has the best replay value as far as pacing goes (since its a roguelike, that is)
novel wasp
GO ON AND SLAM
frank ibex
There is a moth in my room ):
brave thicket
eat it
novel wasp
l a m p
frank ibex
D:
brave thicket
shrews are insect eaters dont blame me
regal junco
Moths are good
frank ibex
It is looking me in the eye
tight axle
do bugs go to elysium?
brave thicket
no
novel wasp
yes
nimble ocean
i think there is one significant change in Hades comparing to other games.. when you go further in the story, you don't want to cry.. and there is no heartbreaking ending
frank ibex
I agree I like em but idk what to do with him
regal junco
I mean there are fish
novel wasp
they became the butterlfy ball to annoy you
frank ibex
Not yet at least
frank ibex
Hat
novel wasp
Aphrodite granted me the love punch
frank ibex
My heart was a little broken when I first beat the bbeg
novel wasp
HAHA
pseudo linden
@nimble ocean not yet
nimble ocean
indeed
regal junco
Artemis
novel wasp
ArteMiss
frank ibex
Arteswiss
novel wasp
Artiss
brave thicket
die
frank ibex
On it boss
novel wasp
🔫
regal junco
Now smiling than will come for you
frank ibex
Death Approaches
brave thicket
like you hear beats in the air, corresponding to the song you feel in your heart
nimble ocean
sometimes you say something you gonna remember 8 years later at 2 am without able to sleep and refill yourself with regret
frank ibex
Thanatos killed them before they could finish
tight axle
I love certain characters responding to than's... combat abilities
frank ibex
Same I only ever use ||mort|| on enemies with dialogue so that I can hear them scream in terror
figuratively
tight axle
||boss #3 sounds so... offended?||
brave thicket
why are everyone here masochists or sadists
frank ibex
Ikr!
brave thicket
i count myself as sadistic btw
regal junco
Im not
frank ibex
||what is he doing here!||
brave thicket
so ur sadistic
regal junco
What
tight axle
just remember there was a time you couldn't kill Meg, so more heat is just an equivalent to that
for everyone
brave thicket
megs always been easy for me
frank ibex
Some of them dont seem all that scary tho. Like extreme measures is scary until you actually try it
tight axle
||Extreme measures 2 + The trap one = lava takes your death defiance as walking tax||
brave thicket
yey
nimble ocean
well, everything seems interesting.. and only timed option is scary
inland hawk
Traps II: all traps instakill
frank ibex
I havent even dipped my toes into the trap one yet
inland hawk
How badly do you want the heat??
frank ibex
Oh the timed one isnt bad if youre using ao demeter fists
tight axle
traps was the first I used but I've since learned what a couple giant purple arrows can do
frank ibex
lmao
inland hawk
Trap heat doesn’t matter until it does
frank ibex
I primarily use pierced butterfly so I would probably be fine with it? I might try it on my next run
frank ibex
I like to go for builds like "kill them all before they can land a hit" so butterfly fits relatively well
tight axle
I'm too scared to not have some invuln keepsakes by the fb so I usually ditch butterfly by then. Likely makes it 100% useless to have taken it at all but oh well
regal junco
What dors butterfly do?
pseudo linden
increases damage for every room you clear without taking damage
pseudo linden
Oh right, I forget
tight axle
For me I usually make a mistake or two in area 1, a handful in area 2, and very single room from there onwards
though it has been a while since I've used the butterfly
novel wasp
1% in level 1
1.5% in level 2
2% in max
though, i do wish to get the bonus based on the room
because you either take pierced till the end or you dont
burnt breach
hey I've noticed an increase in people talking about hades mods here, I'd just like to inform you there is a hades modding discord, I post the link in #self-promotion every now and then. If you can't see the link, just type "hades modding discord" in the search bar, it should pop up
glad people are interested in hades mods 
frank ibex
Ahh that happens to me too lol. I think it must have to do with practicing motor coordination and also it seems like playing one game can help you approach others from a different perspective
Im a neuro student so things like game-related cognition are interesting as all getout lmao
brisk trail
Hmm maybe that's the case
gaunt dome
I've noticed that hades requires a lot more thinking and coordination that I'm used to, timing attacks and dashes correctly have been the biggest learning curve for me by far
frank ibex
^
brisk trail
Timing dashes was my biggest issue
Cuz u can still get damaged if u don't have athena
But I'm alot better now
Still only one clear tho :(
distant sun
all of a sudden im getting lag spikes every so often. might be pc or game
guess window updates lag the game when they want to override your game screen :(
frank ibex
Same problem recently, even with razer. Not usually an issue despite playing with a 620 but I just close everything else I had open in the bg and am usually fine
Windows updates notwithstanding, lol
worthy egret
Damn i missed butterfly talk
brave thicket
butt fly
brave thicket
well, he looks nightmarish
worthy egret
No he doesn't :(((
calm laurel
Than only sees Zag as a friend
tacit sparrow
aight
tacit sparrow
same bro
worthy egret
thanzag neighborhood
worthy egret
😔 
tacit sparrow
still trying to get the Than route 😔
worthy egret
I honestly don't mind it
tacit sparrow
there are sacrifices I am willing to take
worthy egret
Ive done the Than route yesterday
❤️ 😔
Or well, the last heart
And what happened after that
Anyway what im meaning to say. Than cute
brave thicket
no
tacit sparrow
frfr like... I finished the Meg route and Than still won't let me unlock his heart
brave thicket
than skeary
worthy egret
Boy takes time this is all very new to him 😔
brave thicket
the face is old
worthy egret
Tbh i had Meg and Than unlock themselves to me around the same time
I mean DUH he's DEATH
worthy egret
That he's old doesn't mean dealing with having feelings for people isn't new
Yeeee it is
worthy egret
But he smiles in his front view and as weird as the smile is he SMILED
Than is a master of DRAMATIC EXITS
UGH MOM YOU DONT UNDERSTAND ME IM RUNNING AWAY!!! POFF
tacit sparrow
Zag: Than we need to talk I-
Than: actually I got work now bye
dramatic exit with jade green filter for some reason
worthy egret
Its how he avoids social situations he doesnt wanna be in
tacit sparrow
Than practiced that dramatic entry and exit I bet
brave thicket
he hath NO WINGS
brave thicket
I DONT SEE THEM
tacit sparrow
he has... a wing shoulder pauldron thing
brave thicket
IM BLIND
worthy egret
When he poofs, the effect around him kinda looks like wings
brave thicket
they are gween, not blak
tacit sparrow
gween
worthy egret
Listen i absolutely believe he has them. For the good of my heart
He just doesn't show them
tacit sparrow
winged Than... yes
worthy egret
I once saw art of Thanatos (not hades Thanatos, just the god in general) with star speckled black wings and I've never been the same
I think our Than would benefit from just solid black wings but please,,,, please consider,,,, either a metallic green sheen on his feathers when the light hits a certain way, or stars on the ends of his feathers
novel wasp
back to regular running away from home 850 BCE momento
tacit sparrow
Hypnos with tiny pigeon wings 🥺
novel wasp
Obsidian wings
cinder lichen
pdfffft
brave thicket
what about no
patent topaz
I saw this same vine in a compilation but it was Achilles in Styx not Zag 👀
regal junco
Were divine figures having wings even a thing pre christianity
quaint bramble
@regal junco Yes, off the top of my head Sumerian reliefs often depicted deities as being winged
regal junco
Neat
Also how am I allowed to post in the feedback channel
Do we have to get our thing approved first
Because I find the fact that the hallway to zags room and the hallway to the courtyard do not line up exactly
Unimaginably infuriating
sharp parcel
check the pin
lyric talon
https://imgur.com/Jo6WSVW
Oh cool
opaque nexus
I haven’t been able to play this game at all
brisk trail
Hello everyone. Yesterday i found this gem and fell in love with it. I was thinking and wanted to ask, are we allowed to Stream the game on twitch? 🙂
flat vapor
yep! there's lots of streamers playing hades too
regal junco
Also can we talk about how amazing this game is for a minute.
Especially how everytime you think your out of new content or mechanics there some new surpirse thing
Or at least where I’m at on around run 50
frank ibex
Agreed! The pacing is excellent
regal junco
Especially when compared to other rogue likes (like Etg, Dead Cells, and Rogue Legacy (which are all great also))that mostly just have new item unlocks after the first hour or so
And the writing is also amazing
tight axle
Hypnos's "advice" is great too. I wanted to see what would happen if I turned heat to max and found out he still has new dialogue when something that has already killed you kills you again
regal junco
Yeah hes my favorite
tight axle
I've seen I believe 3 variations of the lout lines
regal junco
Feel like im missing out considering ive never died to like most of tartarus
tight axle
same, he unfortunately has less to say on victory than on death
frank ibex
I'd be curious to see exactly how much time each character has in voiced lines alone lol
Like if you were to put all of their dialogue audio back to back
tight axle
and how much each va had to be paid because wow that's a lot of talking
frank ibex
Aye
regal junco
Like if you just msde it a visual novel no one would notice
Yeah
There are so many tiny lines that are like “wow, they took the time to get the zag va to actually say that”
frank ibex
Especially for rare lines too. Got a final boss line for the first time on run, like, 75 or something yesterday
tight axle
"in the name of someone very sore right now" is a personal fave
frank ibex
Same lol
regal junco
Honesty it reminds me of fire emblem but like good
And also the pure genius of having a half god protagonist trying to escape the infinitely changing hell
frank ibex
Fire emblem but with more replay value
regal junco
It such a good way of contextualizing why nothing really changes or matters
frank ibex
Fire emblem but the level grinding isnt a chore
regal junco
Fire emblem but theres more thsn three character archetypes
frank ibex
Gosh I cant wait for the update im so excited
regal junco
Fire emblem but you arent having noble very important children kill mercenary bands when they could very likely die
tight axle
Actually, it isn't half god
regal junco
Yeah
frank ibex
Fire emblem but there arent weird forced children mechanics that get progressively more strange
frank ibex
Oh good
gray wind
I can see the love for Fire Emblem abounds 👀
frank ibex
awakening was weird but fates was a garbage fire as far as children mechanics
regal junco
Instead of horny chess its horny doom
gray wind
Did Three Houses even have the whole children shenanigans? I know it was in the earlier post-Awakening ones
frank ibex
I rag on it a lot for someone whose invested so many hours playing it lmao. Its fun even if its not super high quality
3h did not I believe
I haven't played it
gray wind
Nothing wrong with picking on something every now and then, even our favourite things aren't flawless, after all 🤷♀️
Though I wonder if they'll surpass the invention of the child dimension one day
narrow hemlock
this may come as a shock to people but you can criticize the things you love, it will not make you love them less. i'm not directing this at anyone here but generally speaking people on the internet give me the impression that if you are critical of something, it automatically means you hate it, which is not true. but either way im not sure how this non-hades topic came to hades discussion
gray wind
I don't know, I just hopped on. But very true
It is surprising to me how averse to any form of criticism people seem to be nowadays, though of course that's probably only the loud minority making a fuss
regal junco
I mean like hades doesn’t have an ending right now but like
gray wind
That it has a lot of polish, no? With little lines for many things you wouldn't think they'd care to acknowledge with dialog
novel wasp
im hongy
novel wasp
funfact deflect only means for projectiles, because it cause "something" change direction by interposing something; turn aside from a straight course.
for melee, its called "Parry" and no you cant really just beat someone with their sword unless you are holding their sword
so deflect is not misleading, you just thought a lil too much lol @regal junco
regal junco
But like people dont think about that
They think about how in games deflecting only goes for projectiles
novel wasp
even if they were misinformed the first time, they could always learn
infact the up/down kinda suggest this isnt the issue at all once you know it isnt
you just well... know it
regal junco
And yeah maybe i did, I personally didn’t think that you could deflect melee attacks and so was like athena bad cus bosses are almost all melee
But like
regal junco
Probably?
novel wasp
I abused redacted by keep deflecting his sugar skulls
all boss comes with some form of projectile attack
tis for example, easy to abuse them
athena is probably has the safest boon in the whole pantheon and she def has a place
learn to adapt to it
regal junco
But like
Theyre main thing is melee usually
So i dont heckin know
I mean
But like
novel wasp
unless you are colorblind and cant see projectile then i cant help you tbh
regal junco
I wouldnt have learned that unless i was on the server and someone told me that athena counter
novel wasp
athena has like the most straightforward description for what it does but ok
regal junco
Like
novel wasp
when i was new i had no idea that marked works and it took me several tries to know marked is objectively the worst against boss since you cant use it fully
regal junco
Its clear what it does only if you know thst this is the first game ever to say that you deflect melee attacks aside from sekiro
regal junco
Also are you trying to make fun of me cus every boss spawns adds or is a dual fight where is it somewhat useful
I think in sekiro it is called deflect tho
novel wasp
yes but what i wanted is marked to be continously reapply and it doesnt just apply once and we done with it
its better for normal levels than for boss levels
regal junco
Well it used somewhat instead of not at all
Ok and for honor too i think but thats on weird dodging stuff
novel wasp
if you are so insist on that fine, help yourself then, infact some attacks can be DEFFLECTED
like when numbskulls charges at you
novel wasp
i really dk what do you want here
regal junco
Its just that the word
novel wasp
aside from learn from mistake
regal junco
Is a bit confusing
Helping new players is important because thats the only way you get old players
novel wasp
i honestly doubt that is ever a problem
regal junco
It was literally
novel wasp
heck, a serious one
novel wasp
then its just you im sorry
merry harbor
There's probably not a reason to be this mean about it? It took a while to realize that melee attacks could be reflected due to their pink AOE, and that was from observation of other people. I don't think the term is necessarily confusing, but it is something that can be hard to figure out at first.
novel wasp
Helping new players is important because thats the only way you get old players
@regal junco you sound like this could end the game or something lol
as if people cant learn mistakes
regal junco
But like
What if they dont
Plus its not hugely important
But its almost like random frustrating things are what the feedback channel is for
Will infernal chests spawning on the time pact end the game
Nay?
Was it still requested to be changed?
Yay
novel wasp
those are qol and actually impact a game, and it has requested multiple times before, it would be nice to have, but not necessary a must fix
personally, i dont see the problem myself since infernal trove can be skipped. I have managed to snag a few or two in lower heat, in high heat resource gathering is less of a concern at this rate
narrow hemlock
you really... don't need to hammer in how someone is wrong. this topic going on this long is really excessive and reflects badly on you
helping someone doesn't meant belittling them for thinking something that was incorrect
novel wasp
Sorry if I sound like that, but I found it more frustrating when they sound like this is breaking the game and im just trying to explain it really isnt
we are all once newbies and we never found problems with it
Hey at one point i just kinda accepted bow special will stay and i was really hate it when i was new, now i vibe with it
narrow hemlock
i get that, and indeed we were all newbies, and heck some of us may never get "good" at the game like other players, but i just found this whole conversation a bit 😬 no need to drag it out like this, it's really painful to watch
novel wasp
yeah
imma give up
i either sound passive aggressive or straight up cant argue with ppl and i should minimalize it
brisk trail
@novel wasp Dont be so hard on yourself, often their are thing to improve on, but not all bad situations are the own fault. Understanding and stuff, how you interpret something is in the eye of the viewer. 🙂
nimble ocean
old hades gamers here?
who was the first romanceable option in the game, Meg or Than?
novel wasp
because than does not show up all the time
while meg has a reliable way to show up aka beat her
i say meg will always be your first romancable option
nimble ocean
well, same, and it makes sense
but i meant, who was the first available option added
or they became romanceable simultaneously
pseudo linden
I'm guessing Meg? Seeing as she's the first boss and everything and they already had a relationship with zag and all that
novel wasp
think they are all romanceable as soon they were released
pseudo linden
Than's mechanics seem more unrelated to the core gameplay than Meg
novel wasp
but you could always check patch notes
onyx harbor
what happens if I reject meg?
merry harbor
Nothing! She accepts it and nothing bad happens, you just aren't in a relationship with her.
regal junco
Also for the most recent feedback thing it should probably be dio who talks sbout
Considering he replaced her in the pantheon i think
novel wasp
there are two versions
either it includes Dionysus
or it includes Hestia
but the "replacement" or Hestia willing to go down and let Dionysus step up was never recorded and is probably modern invention
and both versions will never have both at the same time
regal junco
Huh
sterile fiber
I rlly have to draw but I wanna play hades again so BAD
AUGh
hades as a little treat for artist?
merry harbor
Do it in bits between runs, or finish a zone and do like 5 minutes of work while the timer's paused?
sterile fiber
I am not sure I trust myself
regal junco
Honestly i really like how hades paces itself so each run is always like 30 minutes ish
So i can measure proportionally my hades to work ratio
pseudo linden
You should go work dude, I've been in the "just a little more Hades" mentality for a while and this game doesn't get any less enjoyable any time soon
novel wasp
shall i bring back the thanatos wallpaper
regal junco
Gimme like a day and ill have finished drawing smiling than
Which i guess is redundant because its already drawn
By a way better artist
Bet hrkc
frank ibex
Ahh but are you drawing cursed smiling than or blessed smiling than
Thats the real question 
narrow hemlock
y. you can draw things even if you think someone else has done a thing "better"
tacit sparrow
you can draw something even if someone else has done it because it's still your art and it's still your take and it's great in its own way
nimble ocean
my friend really has to know that..
she is afraid even to speak with people, and scared of critics..
and has little self-confidence, bc someone else does things better
im here half as her representative :c
regal junco
Yeah ik, like there was a bit like that when i started writing
And then looked at basically every piece of media ive ever like and was all “this is impossible”
But then i remeber like i just need to practice and also nobody cares
wind nest
So I'm not an incredible hades player or anything, but does the bow attack feel slow and bad?
merry harbor
Usually, only if you're trying to force it to power shot all the time.
Ideally you're only going to go for short, rapid shots.
wind nest
I'm able to ice skate around with the shield and wreck, and the fists I can roll face with too. But even hitting power shots 95 percent of the time it's real bad damahe
Oh is this my issue?
brave thicket
shield bad
tight axle
advantage of the bow is as long as you keep moving you aren't in range of a lot of attacks
though there are quite a few ranged foes
merry harbor
Yeah, if you're only going for power shots, it's gonna feel gross. You only really do that if you're sure it'll kill or if you have time due to it going like, invulnerable.
It's higher damage over time to just do the shorter shots, too, especially once you get some boons for attack on it.
primal whale
Shield is most definitely not bad
merry harbor
yeah i wasn't even gonna touch that
primal whale
haha
I've noticed a lot of people like to make very confident and singular statements about what's good or bad
It's usually a good way of identifying people that are getting into the game but still have a lot to learn. Honestly I love it; hearing the different opinions of what people find strong is a testament to how diverse the possible successful builds are and how some people's style of playing can be vastly different from others
I know I prioritize some boons and hammers that others find trash
deep pivot
@wind nest When it comes to the bow, the 3 different aspects have ways of achieving power spikes:
- Zagreus: Daedalus Hammers make it deadlier, with upgrades like Twin Shot and Explosive Shot. It’s main source of damage is the Attack so capitalize on that (I had a run with Triple Shot + Explosive Shot + Frost Strike, for example, and I just steamrolled)
- Chiron: specializes on Special so get boons that will boost it’s damage potential (Artemis, Demeter, Dionysus are good options)
- Hera: gives emphasis to the Cast but you can also treat it as a Zagreus Aspect without natural critical chance. Getting Dionysus Cast is good with it since it will make the bloodstone drop faster (plus Trippy Shot has great Duo boons)
As a general tip for Coronacht, regardless of which aspect you pick, attack from afar and dash-strike your power shots; they will charge faster and you will remain stationary less often
narrow hemlock
there literally isnt any "bad" weapon, it's all a matter of personal taste and learning how to utilize the weapon, its upgrades and aspects
i personally dont care for railgun, its one of my weakest weapons to run with because ive not hit a point im comfortable with it yet, but that doesnt make the weapon bad. i at least acknowledge that i dont have a clue how to use it yet lmao
cloud quest
man I just tried out the fists for the first time
usually I prefer the ranged weps but these things shred
narrow hemlock
luv the fisty bois, they give in to my need to throw myself carelessly into danger and just hit stuff
'that's probably why you're not comfortable with rail' yes.
cloud quest
It's way easier than I expected to not take damage with them too
narrow hemlock
oh yeah, they are very fun all around
narrow hemlock
thats talos isnt it, i think i usually run demeter
cloud quest
I didn't really have any problems with taking damage from pulling them in
maybe I lucked out because I got a zeus lightning on special and picked up jolted before I got to elysium so anyone I pulled in self damaged on their first hit
primal whale
@narrow hemlock It's funny because the Rail is my number one favorite
narrow hemlock
oh yeah rail is kinda favoured in high heat runs isn't it?
I actually used to hate bow but then I learned to utilize it better and now I really like using hera aspect, but rail still thwarts me
primal whale
The current speed run meta uses spread fire on rail, and it can also be used at high heat due it's very high dps
I find it it a little vulnerable for heat 32, but I haven't tried it a ton
I'd recommend starting with zeus keepsake to force zeus attack
eris aspect and then go for rocket bomb hammer if you can, artemis special, athena dash
triple bomb second hammer if you can, but those are the core ones for me
narrow hemlock
I've tried some of those and they don't vibe with me
maybe I am simply destined to suck balls with rail, who knows! I'm burned out with the game for the moment as it is so I probably won't touch it again til the next update
granite ether
please move this to either #h1-builds-and-combat or #h1-story-discussion as the final boss is spoilers @dusky perch
granite ether
ty ^_^
dusky perch
srry, it's not everyday to see half of the final boss's health fly away with just three cast
just getting hyped :>
oak lantern
@wind nest Every weapon can benefit from a hermes speed buff and a few good hammers. My favorite way to build the bow is usually to focus on the Special as it works pretty well in big groups (especially to apply some kind of DoT) and it's especially lethal when used as a close range shotgun.
I actually had a really fun bow run today with Aphrodite on the special and Ares doom on the attack, which I got to bounce between enemies with a hammer upgrade. Basically everyone had weak and doom all the time, never got to attack me because I had whole groups stunlocked at a time, and it was surprisingly satisfying.
scarlet musk
Hi all, just come to get one final say on whether I should actually get Hades, I play a lot of rogue-likes, and I enjoyed transistor, which is when I discovered Supergiant OuO
sharp parcel
just do it
inland shell
its only begun, get ready for some serious have fun and story
livid cargo
Yes
alpine yacht
Also are all the percentages multipliers or additive? like, boons + jerky for example
livid cargo
I think its additive
alpine yacht
feels additive yea
errant spire
Is playable un terms of content or wait full relea se?
alpine yacht
Marcos the game is very playable
I'd say the only issue for me is there's no real ending yet
but it's the most fun i had gaming in the past year+
livid cargo
Yeah the story is the only thing thats really lacking atm but thats bc they are saving it till right before full release
From a gameplay state its polished to the moon and back
alpine yacht
if you like diablo (or any other A-RPG) and enjoy variety, this is a lot of good hours of gameplay, and the actual characters/plot are solid as always in Supergiant games
errant spire
How many hours of content ate right now?
alpine yacht
Gonna come down to your skill and how much you like trying new 'builds' in A-RPG
I found that it took me 20+ hours to reach the current ending, but then i keep on playing cause i wanna progress in the builds i can craft and see all the variations
sharp parcel
yeah, it took me about 20 hours to get to the current end
errant spire
Thanks all for the info
clever current
what point is the current end?
quick tusk
zagreus doesnt understaqnd the real world so he dies
at least i think thats the current end
clever current
oh, I thought that was referencing like the current end of the ingame narrative
molten drift
anybody know if supergiant will be adding diverging paths similar to gungeon or isaac?
maybe like something to do with Chaos or something
vague frigate
i wish, but i think all the content planned is done
except for the weapon aspects and keepsakes
vague frigate
they have never done any dlc, but i heard a few people saying they are considering it
no clue though
I would too in a second
molten drift
well they've also never done a roguelike before
quaint bramble
I remember them saying they were planning on some boss variance, but hadn’t nailed down exactly how it would look. There’s more content, but the roadmap hasn’t really told us exactly what it looks like yet.
vague frigate
i understood that the last boss variance is a harder version of the last boss with the pact
i could be wrong though
molten drift
okay boss variance would be cool but that's not really the same thing as like a completely diverging path similar to nuclear throne's bonus rooms, isaac's secret exits, and gungeon's lich/advanced dragun
secrets are lit.
especially in games like these.
the only equivalnet currently in the game are the duo and legendary boons
and forcing their prereqs.
vague frigate
I'm really hoping for a diverging path in a dlc or something, i really doubt it will be in the actual release though
vague frigate
that will probably depend on how much the game sells
i kind of doubt it because of their history though
molten drift
but their other games had actual endings.
Hades is about eternity and how these gods never die.
alternate paths make sense;.
vague frigate
it really does because its getting stale after beating it a million times
I've been hoping for a new fire god, but my hopes were squashed
molten drift
it has the potential to cement itself in roguelike S tier with like isaac and gungeon and spelunky.
it just needs those secrets man
vague frigate
the way its designed, its hard to make secret
the thing I'd like to change the most in this game is the heat chambers where if you get hit once, you lose the reward, i never enter them because i always end up with an onion!
i can't count how many times i get the exploding carts and im done!
molten drift
Secrets in Hades could work pretty simply, like if you break a special glowing Vase that spawns randomly on Asphodel or something, it prompts one of the Styx rooms to have a special portal even that leads you to like Chaos' floors that're super hard and but let you get access to huge spikes in power that would be like required to be the alternate end boss or whatever.
The heat thing is cool or whatever but it'd also be cool to be able to dynamically make my run harder through paths. More risk more reward. Chaos gates is the baby version of this. Make Chaos Paths the true gauntlet.
Hell could even make Chaos Paths for every floor and have Chaos Alternations for the bosses that stack with their heat buffs.
Charge me another $30 for the Chaos DLC.
If Diablo 2 taught me anything about game design it's that literally everybody loves a secret cow level.
vague frigate
pitch it to the developers and see what they say
they are very active with responding with the community
especially the diverging paths
narrow hemlock
i think for the moment they are really mostly focused on getting the game to 1.0, anything beyond that is bonus
there is still a lot of narrative content that needs to be finished by 1.0
molten drift
it's just that the roguelike community is super anal on twitch and youtube, here's hoping that narrative content also extends to gameplay content too. a lot of people just skip dialogues and are in it for the mechanics.
dead cells is a good example of that
sterile peak
dead cells had no story whatsoever for a really long time though
molten drift
basically until 1.0
sterile peak
yeah, story was never a focus in dead cells, whereas it is in hades
narrow hemlock
you can really tell who's playing hades as a fan of supergiant, and who's playing as a fan of the genre in general. supergiant is literally known for the narrative aspect of their games, and that still holds true in hades
honestly for me the narrative is what makes hades more fun over dead cells. i had to drop dc because it became less fun for me as a casual player through each update. as much as i want to like roguelikes i'm just generally bad with the genre as a whole, and it almost made me hesitate on hades because i wasnt sure if i would just end up dropping it like any other time i play a roguelike. but i trust supergiant's ability to tell a story and i was rewarded for that bc i ended up loving the world they set up in hades the most of their four titles
kindred onyx
@narrow hemlock I'm feeling exactly the same
serene obsidian
As a fan of both I think they've done a great job of narrative plus gameplay...I think the only rogue lite I've played that has more of a narrative focus is Children of Morta, but the gameplay isn't as polished....SGG really hit right on target with this one
alpine yacht
I always enjoyed Supergiant's worlds and characters, they make such great games, but Hades is the first game I keep playing after finishing since the gameplay loop is perfect for me. Always loved trying new builds in Diablo and the like, so this makes it a perfect game for me.
I feel like - once they finish the story proper, if they focus on adding more gameplay content I'd happily pay 10-20$ for it, no questions asked. I'm only just starting with heat runs, but I can see how it gets stale after 100+ heat-runs even with all the added challenge you can pick and choose.
Adding a DLC with extra chaos-paths (for example) and tons of new god-boons would be 10/10...
sharp parcel
they're adding more boons in June
alpine yacht
Super!
sharp parcel
and items, and aspects
alpine yacht
I'm far from bored after like 30 hours and 50+ attempts, but I would love to never get bored!
serene obsidian
Well @alpine yacht I've got close to 300 attempts at this point....and still not bored...not sure on time but that's not the best indication since I've been playing since launch and the tries used to go quicker lol
alpine yacht
Took me 40 tries just to 'finish' the base game, now starting the heating process and variance of aspects of weapons...I can see it lasting 1000 runs without any additional content 😄
open musk
had it for two days played about 18 hours. and. still working on the base game
alpine yacht
Yea took about the same time here, but we seem to be on the bottom end of the skill ladder
amber hawk
I finally beat it on my 30th attempt. And I'm still goin! I want The house to look amazing
agile saddle
I mean as a Roguelike "finishing" the game is up to the person. I have been playing since Steam launch and and still play everyday. SG is pretty good about smaller patches inbetween the larger major patches which is nice.
thick tartan
srr, can you tell me how much days till new update?
narrow hemlock
not known
there is currently no specific date set for the next one, only that it will be some time in june
thick tartan
ok, thanks
jolly bridge
I have 35 attempts and ~24 hours in the game. Still haven't beaten the final boss once. Other than not being bad, what are some tips you guys have to get to that next level? What are some good items to look out for? What are the best weapons for beginners?
Also I'm so addicted, only got the game on Sunday. Loving it despite getting my ass beat every round lol
inland shell
@jolly bridge best advice is slow down your actions and be more deliberate. learn about Duo Boons
deep pivot
Hello~
Best weapon for beginners would be Aegis (the shield). You can block attacks with it, you can Bull Dash with it for mobility, and it has great Aspects 
jolly bridge
Great! I definitely need to slow things down. I've only really played with the spear so far
deep pivot
As for boons, it depends on the weapon/aspect
Remember, trying to stay alive is more important than clearing rooms asap. Focus on survival and you will clear it!
wind nest
I find the sword to be the most beginner friendly
it has a great dash attack and the special is an aoe which helps clears nearby enemies easily
amber hawk
@jolly bridge I would also give a gift to every character you meet and are able to. Some of the items you get are amazing and changing them up along the run in the middle stages between tarteris and asphodel and so on depending on your situation helps a lot.
best items I use are from Skully, thanatos and dusa
jolly bridge
I think I've gifted most characters! I've been using the one that brings you back to life once
amber hawk
Nice! Then I wish ya luck m8.
primal whale
I used the sword a lot when I started out, specifically with the third aspect once I unlocked it because it has a lot of value for only being at level 1
alpine yacht
How does the mirror talent 'abyssal blood' stack against the normal 'boiling blood'? I only now discovered there are green talents and so am considering 😄
brisk trail
25% isn't bad, but generally speaking more offense is better than more defense.
alpine yacht
cool cool
also wondering about golden touch, since i find myself spending a lot at styx
primal whale
Does anyone know how stacking slow works? Is it straight additive and is there a cap?
tight axle
golden touch adds up quick, though you have to hold off on shops a little bit
jolly bridge
Just won my first game! Taking my time helped so much. Also got really lucky and had a crazy lightning strike spear build that melted everything.
primal whale
10 stacks of chill, killing freeze, abyssal blood, numbing sensation?
alpine yacht
man i wish i knew how anything stacks in this game
dunno if all the damage bonuses are additive or multiplicative and same for slow
and cba testing myself
wish we had a skelly between regions so we can test stuff
primal whale
Nearly every damage bonus is additive, but there a couple that some people insist are multiplicative
and yeah, one of the first feedbacks I submitted was to create a room where we could try out all of the boon and hammer combinations
It would also lead to a more comprehensive and accurate wiki
alpine yacht
i think a room like that might ruin the fun for a lot of people honestly
primal whale
it's optional
alpine yacht
but it would help us on the wiki page
primal whale
Just a little room in the house
alpine yacht
i would just want to have detailed tooltips, just sent that request in feedback
like - as an option
primal whale
for those that want to test things out
alpine yacht
yea the test room is neat...i just know it would've ruined my fun a lot if i had run into it too early
at this point, after clearing the base game, i feel i need one
primal whale
Because to test things out you need to go through a whole run and just hope you get what you wanted to test
It should be unlocked later
alpine yacht
yea
then 100%
like, if it unlocks with heat i'm all for it
that seems reasonable
primal whale
I think jumping into the game without the wiki or this discord is the best way to start
alpine yacht
it is 100% the best
i had so much fun in those first 20 hours discovering everything
tight axle
It should be a thing where you can only test a boon after finding it
alpine yacht
but now when i start min-maxing its good to have real knowledge
oh that can be a possibility too...
might be rough for some
primal whale
Exactly, and then when you start to learn the nuances behind the mechanics, you've got this base-line of gameplay skill that you built up and then can better harness knowledge that the wiki and this discord can provide
I agree @tight axle
Would be weird to be trying out boons and hammers that you've never seen before
alpine yacht
I just open youtube for that
to see what a certain hammer does for example
it does ruin some of the fun though
primal whale
You know what would be amazing is if they were to create a level creator for the game
alpine yacht
man if we get more levels/mobs
this game is gonna be real eternal
if this game gets a mod scene its gonna be mad
primal whale
seriously
I can see people creating full on runs that are a totally different experience but equally as fun
alpine yacht
yo...the testing room should be behind Achilles !!!
primal whale
It's possible that locked room is reserved for it
alpine yacht
aw man, i can't get enough of this game
glad to know the locked room isnt locked just for me
thought there's still smthn im missing
it feels like there's an endless depth almost xd
tight axle
how to explain a test room with the powers of the gods on standby in universe though?
primal whale
If you are happy setting goals for yourself and working towards completing them, the game has a ton of replayability
Hmm, good point, it would be tricky to add it in but still make it a logical choice for a room within the universe
thin carbon
Maybe chaos or somewhere in the underworld where things arent as they should be
primal whale
Maybe at some point, skelly reveals he's some sort of super deity
alpine yacht
i thought the best solution for the test-room would be a prayer room (to get boons) or in a dream-state
primal whale
Ahh yeah
alpine yacht
but it is hard to justify lore wise
primal whale
dream state is a great idea
thin carbon
And urns are the dummies
primal whale
The bed would just be the way to enter the testing arena
alpine yacht
yea that's my best idea atm
primal whale
And you go through your memories of everything you've experienced and can try it out
like a lucid dream
alpine yacht
seems legit
it can even be the extra-bed (sofa?) you buy
or a bed upgrade that u can unlock after beating the game
primal whale
I was just gonna say
alpine yacht
think that's a pretty solid idea
tight axle
or maybe something about how your weapons remember what has aided them kinda like the aspects and allows you to bring them back in a limited fassion?
primal whale
an expensive bed upgrade that is so comfy, that zag just can't resist
alpine yacht
i love it
man i see the feedback running in, the gang will never run out of great ideas to improve their game
its beautiful, and probably frustrating
primal whale
I wonder how they treat feedback
My guess is they go through it and note ideas they find good
and then slowly whittle down that list to things they really want to add
tight axle
you think they ever look at a popular idea and ask themselves why their fans are so stupid?
primal whale
Yes
But then I think they also look at a popular idea and think, wow, that's genius
alpine yacht
I bet there's a few popular ideas that would ruin the game-experience for sure
it happens with all games
primal whale
Like, the fish tank idea is a very popular one and doesn't really affect the over-all game experience, so I bet it will get added somewhere down the line
alpine yacht
man - i gotta say - i wish totalbiscuit was alive to see this game, not sure why this popped in my head except the fact he pointed me towards transistor and then i couldn't help but play all of supergiant's games
or did he play it?
i forgot this was in early access way back
alpine yacht
hope zag is keeping him company down there
primal whale
I have never heard of him before, but his name is John Peter Bain
It just felt strange to me to refer to them by their screen name
alpine yacht
he did some good work promoting lesser known devs, and when i heard of transistor from him when it was released supergiant was defo lesser known still
primal whale
not offensive or anything, just strange. We live in a strange world
alpine yacht
but god dang they make some awesome games, each and every one
primal whale
Yeah SGG is the epitome of a great game company
They deserve all the funding they need and to grow as much as they'd like, but then I feel like they have a tight crew of passionate people and that's why everything they make is top tier
alpine yacht
the fact that they keep the same base-crew, or so it seems, between games
and it works
is magical
So...think I should trade olympian favor for legacy? I feel its not that giant of a trade off but the risk of getting screwed with grey boons might be too much
primal whale
It makes sense though; if everyone in the company likes each other and enjoy working together, along with their collective love of video games, anything they make is gonna be gold
So I'm not a big fan of legacy
alpine yacht
i feel its just gonna screw me, but will let me see some newer cool builds
i like reducing the RNG though by having 40% rares
primal whale
I will say, like with everything in this game, try it out
But after trying it out, I feel like i end up seeing more legendaries and duos with favor
Using yarns of ariadne or god keepsakes
or taking the boon in a "skull" room when you have the prereqs for the legendary or duo
alpine yacht
interestng
primal whale
Plus having your core boons being rare or epic is almost better than finding that one legendary or duo, unless the build hinges on it
primal whale
Idk if anyone knows unless they've peeked at the code
primal whale
But through fated persuasions and things that up boon rarity, I can usually get my legendary or duo that I'm looking for
But just for fun, since im darkness farming on 0 heat, ill try some olympian legacy and god's chosen
alpine yacht
yea i'm 'farming' while progressing heat slowly atm
so after finding out the mirror has a green side, now after running heat 2....
changed 3 talents only
would change a lot more for speed-runs but for my purposes this feels right
primal whale
I'd say extra dash (or its alt if thats your thing) and extra dds are probably the mandatory ones
everything else is helpful
alpine yacht
yea - just my gamestyle
alpine yacht
yea i got everything maxxed
except the fated
like, from the talents i picked
could probably maxx the reverse of most too
primal whale
I love the dash alt IF I can find extra dashes
primal whale
if I hit the final boss with 1 dash, I feel hopeless
alpine yacht
maybe worth taking if u put the hermes gift
merry harbor
Hermes tends to be pretty consistent on giving them in asphodel, thankfully.
primal whale
Having fated persuasions also gives me more confidence
alpine yacht
heck yea
i kinda wanna try more keepsakes but the feather feels too stronk
i can't avoid taking damage yet, almost ever
plume*
primal whale
I find using god keepsakes too useful, and then broken spearpoint a godsend for the part before the final boss
(trying not to spoil anything)
alpine yacht
yaya
primal whale
I like anything that lets me control the rng
alpine yacht
i bet on higher heats the spearpoint comes in handy
primal whale
It pretty much prevents being posioned
alpine yacht
i don't pick the god ones atm since i am not trying to go for a controlled build
but i bet if u go for high heat u need something of that sort
primal whale
Yeah I never chose the gods until higher heats
I used Charons keepsake quite a lot actually
alpine yacht
oh yea that's real useful i find
especially elysium/styx
if u can finish styx fast - rng - and get to the final boss with buffs
oh my
primal whale
definitely in styx. I had a cast build the other day and ended up getting to the FB with two extra casts (using stygian soul mirror)
alpine yacht
i feel i wouldnt mind opening with chaos, moving to something else, and then finishing with charon's
primal whale
I do that occasionally
And if I have a disappointing start and no chaos gates, I just restart the seed
alpine yacht
man i dont think i ever had a run without chaos on tart
primal whale
It happens, but even 1 good chaos boon makes it all worth it
alpine yacht
just unlocked my first companion finally, and maxxed it, wonder how much easier things will get before the final part
any miniboss should be a joke now right?
with batman
primal whale
So already I can say I hate olympian legacy and god's chosen
primal whale
My one tip with companions
narrow hemlock
wait which is which, i forget
alpine yacht
god's chosen feels very weak to me
primal whale
because you will forget to use them when they would actually be useful
alpine yacht
i like currency, and dont feel i'm getting too few boons/hammers
primal whale
I just hate getting common after common
alpine yacht
yea that's what had me worried
narrow hemlock
forgetting to use companions when they would be useful is the biggest mood
alpine yacht
i like that its just 1 key to test stuff out though
primal whale
It's a pretty common experience because they come after you've already established a play style
alpine yacht
i could've unlocked it earlier but never bothered looking into the wiki and such before i finished the game first
'finished'
narrow hemlock
depends on how leveled they are, a couple of mine are hurting for ambrosia, which i've been saving for affection. but also depends on the fight. usually will save for a later boss but if i see a stupid butterfly ball in elysium im probably popping a summon if im not using skelly
alpine yacht
all i wants is to heart aphro...not the others QQ
u can't use the companions on bosses right?
so i recall
narrow hemlock
depends
meg than and dusa cant be used on the final
||bc thats their employer so that makes sense||
i dont think you can use meg against furies? cant recall. beyond that there are no stipulations
alpine yacht
right
maybe i should've picked a different comp for starters
cuz my only issue is the last boyo
like, he can kill me sometimes
tight axle
||I love that everyone in the house sides with you in the end to the point where if they all just decided to go against Hades at once there would be nothing he could do about it||
alpine yacht
low heat
hey, he can't do anything about just zag
😄
though i bet he isnt even trying
like the boon choices
between the gods
primal whale
So I hate legacy mostly because it makes getting anything decent from Hermes impossible
dire grove
https://i.imgur.com/dJ17Epe.png really...
spring lava
I go on a pot smashing rampage hoping theres a hidden money pot somewhere behind the others
narrow hemlock
you always get urns in that chamber, until you actually need that one coin
and then the game is like, hmm no urns for you
spring lava
Also is it me or does the game give you waaaay more urns in styx
narrow hemlock
the urns that give coins usually glitter so its easy to tell if you got one or not
ye in the mini rooms you can plow through a bunch without even realizing it
dire grove
got 2 chaos chambers in tar
primal whale
It's when I try and farm darkness that chaos plays hard to get
tight axle
sometimes I see urns that are so impossibly tiny and I'm pretty sure their size is randomized
primal whale
yup, but with my luck right now, not a single one will provide a darkness increase
Just got a chaos in well as well as one in the chamber so there ya go
distant sun
first one :)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/695769434941554792/700571097279627345/unknown.png
brisk trail
do i have to clear the heat 1 level by 1 level in order to obtain all the bounty rewards?
flat vapor
there’s nothing stopping you from doing high heat, but you’ll only get bounties one heat level at a time
spring lava
whats everybodys favorite shield aspects? I cannot get used to this weapon
regal junco
Zeus or bust
spring lava
I put a point in chaos but I keep clipping edges of gaps and stuff and only fly like 3 inches when using bull rush
regal junco
I dont like chaos personally cus the bulk rush feels really clunky to me
flat vapor
imo chaos is just shield+, puts extra damage behind the most defensive and most mobile attack in the game
novel wasp
or use the short bash hammer upgrade
it shaves the time of bullrush
and more chaos spam
i for one doesnt like the bullrush in its original form as well
also @dire grove why is the KoS having 20 uses wtf???
ive never seen it
merry harbor
Zeus Aspect is SO fun
inland shell
@spring lava Chaos for sure. Extremely powerful for single target and helps clear. Zues is great but needs a grace period after launching special so you dont unintentionally cancel it immediately when youre mashing buttons in the heat of battle
brisk trail
@novel wasp best item ever
novel wasp
laughs in hammer
tbh yea leaf clover is good too
rejuv pack is the best legendary too
like rip corpsebloom
tfw i used to be able to exploit trans+shaped glass with 0 penalty just feels good
now they patched it so trans shield will get halfed 😿
brisk trail
Maybe we should discuss somewhere else? Like that server? Lol
But yes I exploit trans+glasses as well😩
brisk trail
Get back to hades, I started getting bored for grinding titan blood and diamonds after playing for 50 hours
novel wasp
you pimp thanathot with it
merry harbor
There's a reason why I'm actually glad I can immediately recall the shield though. Like, two, actually. One is for Explosive Return, another is if I sent the shield off in the wrong direction on accident and need to adjust. @inland shell I can go into this more in Gameplay if you want to keep talking about it in detail?
brisk trail
will the game include more variant for maps, boss, environment instead of the fixed four stages and bosses we are definitely going to see in every loop
inland shell
Yes , I keep seeing this question come up. The game is at least another 6 months away from a full release and that’s not mentioning further expansions free or otherwise@brisk trail
brisk trail
That's great, then I am definitely looking forward to it👍
novel wasp
i doubt theres new biome
but the layout def can come since those are much more managable
than say, whole new biome
cinder lichen
gonna borrow this
alpine yacht
@spring lava - as a no-skill player I feel the shield is one of my favorites. Either Zeus or normal aspects work best for me, 10% damage reduction is good always (5% for 1 blood) and that Zeus special can be insane with the right boons (posi/dio for example)
spring lava
I put a bunch of blood into chaos on a gamble and am running Ares
things die quick
Also Satyrs are now easy. I despise those. oh thats really nice
narrow hemlock
there's not gonna be a new biome, go through the ask supergiant channel, this was confirmed
they might add new chambers or smth but an entirely new area won't be added
dire grove
also @dire grove why is the KoS having 20 uses wtf???
@novel wasp theres a thing that change it to 1 per chamber and this grants additional health after revive
dire grove
it gives 10% more for 20 chambers
novel wasp
i thought you can use 20 rez lol
dire grove
yea, would be broken af
calm laurel
Names of Zagreus:
Chaos: O' Son of Hades
Zeus: Dear Nephew
Poseidon: Little Hades
Hades: Boy
Demeter: Young Zagreus/Lil' Sprout
Athena: Noble Cousin
Ares: My Kin
Aphrodite: Little Godling
Dionysus: Zag-Man
Hermes: Coz/Boss
Nyx: My Child
Dusa: Prince
Thanatos/Megera: Zag
Achilles: Lad
Sysiphys: Your Highness
novel wasp
Demeter: Young Zagreus
@calm laurel what about lil sprout
also Charon is the HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH
calm laurel
huh, thanks
tacit sparrow
also Athena's 'noble cousin'?
calm laurel
so that's what her's is
narrow hemlock
ares always refers to zag as my kin
calm laurel
Ah I forgot about him 
sharp parcel
where's Artemis? I believe she calls him Zagreus all the time
calm laurel
yeah
west chasm
@calm laurel Hermes be like: Ey b0ss
calm laurel
true
sharp parcel
forgot to add Bouldy, too: "..." 
calm laurel
Afro-dite
sage marten
So who do you guys think is going to be the fire god if another ones gets added? Hestia or ya boi Hephaestus?
brave thicket
apollo
sage marten
Nah, hermes had not fire under his domains surprised he doesn’t give any bonuses with death defiances though
calm laurel
No I mean that Helios has little time to chat
calm laurel
's fine
novel wasp
I want Heppy to be hammer boon
while Apollo to be fire god
Hestia and Hera would be nice addition to tell you how much a douche zeus is
sage marten
Nah, apollo feels unlikely to be the fire dude
novel wasp
but idk what boon they can give
calm laurel
I'd imagine Apollo would make you a war bard or a light mage
sage marten
Yeah, Hestia and Hera also feel likely because they got aspects too
sage marten
Death defiance shenanigans?
calm laurel
maybe
calm laurel
that's why he has a helmet
sage marten
Maybe but he’s got baller blessings to compensate
calm laurel
"battle" scars
brave thicket
why
sage marten
checks out
novel wasp
would you use those to shave
brave thicket
no
sage marten
Because it’s cool™️
novel wasp
he enjoys blender
thats why the first smoothie shop is opened by him in hades universe
brave thicket
why is he holding a kopis instead of a xiphos?
novel wasp
he just enjoys to maintain blender blades to the point his family kinda worries about his hobby
sage marten
Olympians
Caring about anyone
novel wasp
just like butterfly
brave thicket
you wont keep it
novel wasp
you wont keep it
west chasm
Do i lose the dodge
novel wasp
damn it
inland shell
Additively*
west chasm
I'm going to commit a few hate crimes brb
inland shell
which is graphed linearly yes
west chasm
Wait so