h1-discussion

[visual tiger]

Jellie it still is

[brisk trail]

is it really that great ?

[visual tiger]

that new spear is too good

get crit with it and just hold the spin to win

[warm yarrow]

i dont like its ability

i hate having to pause to spin

[visual tiger]

it does so much damage tho

[brisk trail]

but what special are you talking about

where you have to pause

[visual tiger]

get the hammer and speed it up

[brisk trail]

or where you throw your spear

[warm yarrow]

im adhd and attack and dash everywhere

[visual tiger]

charge attack i mean

[lapis nova]

@brisk trail I can talk you through some basic builds if you want. But the Special on Spear is great.

[visual tiger]

i used to do that but sweet lord the charge on guan yu is op

ive currently got a run going with a 20% crit chance on it

[lapis nova]

"Special" is the name of the attack. You throw the Spear and press again to recover it.

[brisk trail]

@lapis nova kinda new but whats the special, where you throw the spear or the other one ?

aha

[visual tiger]

im dealing prob around 1000 damage per circle

[warm yarrow]

damn artemis is good

[brisk trail]

@lapis nova i thought you were talking about the other attack where you pause for a second

[shy relic]

what's the difference between a 450 gold boon and a 175 gold boon in temple of styx?

[analog iron]

Have they fixed the spear lifestesling from the environment like vases and destructible?

[brisk trail]

yeah special with that boon where you doo 500% dps to armor or something like that is really powerful

[lapis nova]

I hate the Spear Charge attack @brisk trail 😜

@brisk trail Do you have most of the God keepsakes yet?

[warm yarrow]

i hate having to pause to use abilities

its honestly annoying bc i like the spear

[brisk trail]

@lapis nova no im like 8 hours in i do one run a day

[lapis nova]

I play the spear all the time. I just ignore the charge @warm yarrow

[visual tiger]

how could you ignore the charge

its the best part

[brisk trail]

@lapis nova struggling with the final boss

[lapis nova]

Okay, got it. So I won't give you a build to force yet.

[brisk trail]

wait so when you beat the game it becomes harder ?

[lapis nova]

Oh, if you've made it that far, you should be able to start picking up keepsakes.

[brisk trail]

or thats spoilers we cant talk about

[lapis nova]

That's how Roguelikes work 🙂

[brisk trail]

@lapis nova yeah i guess, i have some keepsakes like 6-7

[lapis nova]

@visual tiger Oh, did they recently Nerf the Spear's Charge attack?

[visual tiger]

i have no idea if they nerfed it

but i can see a guan yu nerf comming

[lapis nova]

(No. They didn't. They nerfed the Special 😝 Because Special is the best part.)

[visual tiger]

i feel it in my bones

[brisk trail]

@lapis nova dont really know what to pick , for now i pick black shawl

[visual tiger]

The best part is spin attack no questions asked

[lapis nova]

So they nerfed Special instead of nerfing the best aspect of the weapon?

Seems unlikely 😉

[visual tiger]

they just added the guan yu

[brisk trail]

i thought they buffed the spear ?

[visual tiger]

if i could stream this run and you would understand

[warm yarrow]

i like the gun bc of the special but hate the reload

its triggering

[lapis nova]

First they nerfed it, then they reverted some of the nerf.

[delicate arrow]

what is guan yu aspect???

[visual tiger]

spoilers thats what it is

[delicate arrow]

@warm yarrow daedalus

[visual tiger]

dont think about it

[warm yarrow]

ik

but still

sometimes u cant get it when u want it

[delicate arrow]

ill need to beat hades?>

[lapis nova]

Daedalus for what?

I really don't like the new triple shot no reload Daedalus. It's a clear nerf.

Wait, you haven't finished a run and you were arguing about forcing builds?!?

[warm yarrow]

it could be an auto reload

[brisk trail]

@lapis nova how many hours did it take you to finish your first run

[lapis nova]

@warm yarrow It is an auto reload... What are you seeing?

[warm yarrow]

nope

it waits a moment

[lapis nova]

@brisk trail I played a lot before it was possible to finish a run, so that's hard to say. Once a full run was possible, it took me around 5 or 6 runs, I think.

[delicate arrow]

it reloads automatically

[lapis nova]

Yes, but you don't have to hit any buttons.

[delicate arrow]

what hes saying is

[lapis nova]

It's automatic.

[delicate arrow]

no reloads

it can have infinite ammo

[lapis nova]

You just want to be able to spam Special forever?

Are we talking about Attack or Special?

[delicate arrow]

i think hew ants to spam his attack forever

[lapis nova]

You can't spam attack forever anymore.

[warm yarrow]

yer

[lapis nova]

They nerfed that upgrade.

[delicate arrow]

also @warm yarrow , you should spam special and cast during reload animation

@lapis nova they did ?

[warm yarrow]

the special is the best par of the wep

[delicate arrow]

i neve played with rail post long winter

[lapis nova]

Yes. They changed it to fire in a three-shot burst, and no need to reload.

[shy relic]

I have doom on attack, does that get buffed by the attack boost you can buy from the well?

or does it only boost the base attack

[delicate arrow]

then what does dash attack do ? @lapis nova

[visual tiger]

sweet lord how can you guys not like the spin attack

[delicate arrow]

that was old dash attack, was it not ?

[lapis nova]

So now if you grab it, I think it is probably best to shoot, dash, shoot, dash.

[visual tiger]

GY aspect is op to all hell

[lapis nova]

No idea @delicate arrow

[visual tiger]

just had 1 hit for 700 and it hits multiple times

[tiny dust]

the rail does not reload automatically in the truest sense

if you're holding down the button, it will continue to click empty until you release it

[lapis nova]

I thought he was talking about the special @tiny dust

[warm yarrow]

ok is cursed slash good

[visual tiger]

cursed slash?

[lapis nova]

I haven't tried it since the nerf.

[tiny dust]

oh pretty sure he was talking about attack reload, it's definitely the part i had always hated with rail early on

[lapis nova]

It used to be_very_ good.

[tiny dust]

until i maxed out hestia, now reload and me are best buddies

[burnt breach]

cursed slash useless now

[lapis nova]

Bummer 😟

[dapper flume]

Did I make a mistake putting blood into the bow? 😦

[visual tiger]

which bow?

zagreus?

[dapper flume]

uhh fk forgot the name, wait till I lose this round

[visual tiger]

And generally no, early game can cause a bit of slow down but you get enough blood later so dont worry about that

[dapper flume]

Not the first one

The third I think

[visual tiger]

homing special?

[dapper flume]

zagreus is the default for crit, didn't pick that one

[visual tiger]

after hitting one

[dapper flume]

not homing either

OH

load right click into attack

[visual tiger]

oohhh

from what ive hear that one is pretty good

depending on what cast you have

[dapper flume]

You can right click before your shot has charged so it feels good, but not sure

[visual tiger]

havent tried that one, but i think it depends on the cast, and that means it has some potential but it varies

[shy relic]

can I ask here how exactly it works with the titan blood? I have some questions

and what are infernal gates?

[burnt breach]

titan blood is a currency used to unlock and upgrade ||weapon aspects||

[shy relic]

yeah I have some and I can unlock them

[burnt breach]

infernal gates are basically challenges

[shy relic]

||what is the maximum level of an aspect? what aspects are good? can I respecc like with darkness?||

[burnt breach]

if you have enough ||heat|| you can enter them during a run

[shy relic]

but they are challenges, making the game harder or is it worth to do them?

[visual tiger]

challenge rooms

kinda like Chaos gate but not

[vestal slate]

Infernal Gates drop you into an encounter where you have to finish all foes without getting hit to get double Obols/Hearts/Poms or rarer boons

[analog elbow]

@ivory walrus you can heal that back up when you get out m8

[visual tiger]

how do i mark as spoilers again

-spoiler-

nop

spoiler

nop

[fair lance]

Use || around the part you want to spoiler

[visual tiger]

ooohh you can just mark it and right click tag as spoiler

[burnt breach]

if you select part of your message theres like a tooltip

[visual tiger]

@shy relic ||Aspects max lvl is 5 im pretty sure||

[warm yarrow]

im struggling

idk why

[visual tiger]

wassup?

how early in the game are you?

[warm yarrow]

i got past the minotaur and now i cant anymore

[visual tiger]

your mirror level?

[warm yarrow]

its pretty upgraded

:/

[visual tiger]

the ||extra lifes|| are very useful

[warm yarrow]

have them

[visual tiger]

what weapons you running?

[warm yarrow]

i was using the spear

[visual tiger]

which one?

[warm yarrow]

and my only dps was homing rifts

the one you spin with

[visual tiger]

._.

[warm yarrow]

it does no damage to the bosses for me idk

[visual tiger]

thats all of them

[warm yarrow]

the first one

with extra spin time

[visual tiger]

Zagreus?

[warm yarrow]

and extra range

yes

[visual tiger]

that doesnt level spin time

its the throw time range and speed

[warm yarrow]

it was spin

[visual tiger]

-special damage, range and speed

special is the throw

spin counts as attack

so the reason you were doing little damage is im guessing you took special damage boons rather than attack damage

[warm yarrow]

nah

i put it all in my cast

[visual tiger]

well you see thats the problem then

casts are good but dont focus too much on one thing

Crits im finding are very good

frost lady's cast seems very good aswell

and then just try to lvl attack damage or whatever else your run seems to go towards

[jolly haven]

you can definitely stack all one thing

[visual tiger]

aight yea, when i said that i didnt really think it through

[jolly haven]

probably better to stack all one thing than to spread things out as long as the core of your build doesn't suck

[visual tiger]

i just find that having good casts and good attack seems to work well

and you cant really stack one thing in this game anyhow

boons just kinda make you chose something else

[ivory walrus]

Radish, I realise, but it's still like 82% of the base life total

[teal patrol]

Cast builds tend to carry themselves

without needing anything else

hunting blades, sint feast i mean

best weapon for cast builds is poseidon sword imo

[visual tiger]

why is that?

sword knockback, wouldnt that cause more harm than good for a cast build?

[teal patrol]

Poseidon sword aspect

[visual tiger]

aahh

[teal patrol]

50% Extra cast damage

[knotty epoch]

• basically infinite casts

[unique river]

Doesn't it also dislodge casts on attack?

[teal patrol]

even without the dislodge it's broken good

[knotty epoch]

on special

[teal patrol]

yeah it does

on special

[unique river]

ah

[teal patrol]

it works with all casts, whether they lodge or not

its such a good aspect

i ran it with hunting blades yesterday and got my fastest sword time

[knotty epoch]

it's so broken running that with artemis

[visual tiger]

Thoughts on the ||guan yu|| spear aspect?

[teal patrol]

awful

[visual tiger]

mine would be that its op as all hell

[unique river]

EZPZ when you have athena attack

tho you do need hammer upgrades to make it broken good

[visual tiger]

honestly just crit with the attack and you have insta kill

they are quite common to get early so it just usually works out

hammer that is

[unique river]

My guan yu is lvl 2 and I didn't lose a single death defiance for the whole run

[teal patrol]

what boons?

[unique river]

dang I didn't screenshot

but, Athena attack, massive spin and quick spin

[visual tiger]

yea i wanna ask what makes you think its bad Redorb, not saying its a bad opinion just wondering why

[unique river]

then got demeter's healing boon

that's the core of the build, don't remember the rest

[visual tiger]

massive spin quick spin, plus attack speed, then almost any boon for attack damage is good

apart from doom

[knotty epoch]

why not doom?

[visual tiger]

doom doesnt increase attack damage

as much

[teal patrol]

i havent used it since it came out actually

but the new special doesnt seem that good

it was really bad on release

[visual tiger]

Whilst artimis increases crit, so basically one crit every spin

[teal patrol]

huge health negation for no upside

[visual tiger]

athena increases damage and adds a spinning deflect zone

[teal patrol]

if you're using a spin attack build, use hades aspect or something instead

[visual tiger]

poseidon does alot of damage, havent tried this one tho

[teal patrol]

Poseidon god?

[visual tiger]

spin is so much better for the ||guan yu||

[teal patrol]

Poseidon tends to be the worst god imo

other than for Styx, i guess

[visual tiger]

poseidon would be better than doom im pretty sure

i tend to stay away from that because it just adds a proc thing

[teal patrol]

for guan yu spear?

[visual tiger]

well, then comes the question its gonna knock them out of the spin

but still doom only procs

[teal patrol]

oh you mean in general?

[visual tiger]

mostly

[teal patrol]

Doom is fantastic

Ares is one of the stronger gods

[visual tiger]

for ||guan yu|| the others are more effective

cant really add screenshots here

but i had one where i mostly built on cold which worked wonders

@teal patrol sendt a screenshot of the run screen after the run. dont really know how much that tells you but its darned good

[teal patrol]

Im trying a guan run now

[visual tiger]

aim for the quick spin on hammer first

then aim for critcs on attack

then let the damage flow through you

[teal patrol]

gone for doom on the special

[near canopy]

Is it just me or is the hydra really hard

[visual tiger]

i dont think ive ever used the special on ||guan yu||

they nerfed the hydra im pretty sure

its a pretty boring boss but not that hard anymore

[teal patrol]

Hydra is a roadbump for new players

its pretty punishing at first

[near canopy]

Also are gemstones important or nah

[dapper flume]

Is dodge in this game actually the % it says? Or is there some DR involved?

[visual tiger]

gemstones can be quite important

[dapper flume]

I.E If I have 25% dodge does that mean 1/4 hits misses? more or less

[visual tiger]

25% dodge means 1/4 hits will miss

[knotty epoch]

some of the house contractor stuff from gemstones is really good

[fading garden]

is it normal that you can dash through the door in the lobby

[devout plinth]

On average, yes

[fading garden]

?

[visual tiger]

im pretty sure from what ive experienced

[near canopy]

and decorations don’t do anything right XD

[visual tiger]

no

[teal patrol]

dodge has diminishing returns

[visual tiger]

they add some more dialogue

[teal patrol]

it doesnt linearly stack

[knotty epoch]

decorations make the place prettier which is way more worth it than whatever nonsense the contractor can give you for a run

[near canopy]

XD

and will who I give nectar to change how to story plays out ?

[visual tiger]

@knotty epoch are you dissing my lord and savior ||chaos||

[knotty epoch]

you don't really change how the story goes; it's more like each character has a personal storyline or something to that effect

so give them to whoever you want or for whatever keepsakes you want

[unique river]

achiles has a great new player keepsake tbh

[dapper flume]

I mean skully is the best for noobs 😮

[visual tiger]

skellys is great tho?

im pretty sure he has the tooth

[dapper flume]

Triple life is OP

[teal patrol]

I only ever use skellys keepsake on bad runs

[unique river]

I've never used Skelly actually

[teal patrol]

its kinda bad

if you're playing well or have a good run, its useless

if its a bad run, you're extending the inevitable

[visual tiger]

its basically an ||extra life||

we are talking new players

[unique river]

My line is thinking is that I'm gonna get more EHP out of myrmidon brace than the tooth

[knotty epoch]

tbf in a roguelite sometimes extending how long it lasts is worth it when you get that thing that just makes everything click

[visual tiger]

for new players more life seems good

[agile saddle]

I wonder who the last companion keepsake will be from. There is only 1 spot left but I was thinking about it and we are kind of out of people who could be a companion seeing as it cant be a god it can't be a spirit in the underworld that leaves like Cerberus.

[knotty epoch]

it might be either (spoilers maybe) ||orpheus and eurydice together or achilles and patroclus together||

[unique river]

I think they'll redesign the keepsake menu so they can give us more companions

but I like penguins's idea as well

[agile saddle]

@knotty epoch but none of those people are allowed to leave their post so it can't be any of them

[grizzled crag]

well are there gonna be more zones ?

[knotty epoch]

you say that like progression is complete with them

[grizzled crag]

maybe another character

[agile saddle]

@knotty epochliterally their whole storyline is saying they can't see each other because they can't leave where they are otherwise they'd be together

[fair lance]

Oh god, I changed the keybinding for dash and now I have to relearn all that muscle memory

[knotty epoch]

there's a chance their story will be about how we fix that

[agile saddle]

Maybe unless they give us a new character. Like I don't see hypnos helping in any fights

[knotty epoch]

my suggestion's certainly not off the table given how (companion/character spoilers) ||sisyphus is just like that||

[agile saddle]

I mean certainly nothing is off the table as we don't know the exact rules of the underworld.

The only other option I was thinking was Charon but I'm not sure how he would help you fight

[dapper flume]

Is there fishing in every run?

Or is it RNG to see if you get one?

[knotty epoch]

fishing spots are rng for whether they appear

they should show up in the same range of places though

[burnt breach]

for anyone interested, I've updated my Codex Menu mod, now you can spawn all items and switch weapons any time.

[inland ermine]

so is || Achilles gay for Patroclus? || never seen anyone talkin bout that

[knotty epoch]

yeah that's usually accepted in mythology; though debated

even though ||achilles has a wife||

[flat vapor]

in-game they're ||confirmed lovers||

[inland ermine]

wow thats actually pretty neat

[near canopy]

Who should I give nectar too

For the best keepsakes

[teal patrol]

who wouldnt be gay for patro

he's a qt

[inland ermine]

^

[oak coyote]

hi, I got the game today, is there a way to avoid getting hit when the minotaur is just walking fast towards you?

[knotty epoch]

dodge through a pillar

[unique river]

nah you just gotta look Asterius in the eye while he's charging at you, open your arms wide and accept death

[knotty epoch]

or stand near any wall and time your dodge really well

[oak coyote]

ok thanks

[knotty epoch]

i'm 60% sure you can dash through him with athena's dash

[dapper flume]

I'm glad this game prompts you when you can give a character something.

Never thought you could give >redacted< a nectar.

[unique river]

you can dash with anyone but he'll just turn around

[oak coyote]

oh I had athena's dash, didn't try to dash through him though, just away from him xd

[knotty epoch]

away is probably still better

if you have a call that makes it so you cant take damage you can also just proc it once and stand still while he hits you; that's p good

[prisma cloak]

Anyone got Demeter's Nourished soul? Any prerequisites?

[teal patrol]

no, i got it just by picking a deme boon

[prisma cloak]

Alright. I'll just keep on playing then.

[dapper flume]

Do the bosses get harder on consecutive attempts?

[lusty wasp]

it wasnt marked for the prophecy for me btw

but yea available right from the start

[knotty epoch]

Do the bosses get harder on consecutive attempts?
only if you turn the heat up

[unique river]

I guess only if you take extreme measures with pact of punishment

although I don't find the bosses harder really, even with extreme measures 3

[prisma cloak]

They just have some added moves

be calm and study their movements

[lusty wasp]

i mean em 1 is tartarus, 2 is asphodel and 3 elysium

and id say only elysium isnt harder, the others definitely are

[dapper flume]

Whats the spoiler code?

[unique river]

|| this ||

or right click the text you need and an option will show up

[dapper flume]

||Can you ever know which door is the right one for the cerberus event? or is it RNG||

[unique river]

RNG

[mental sail]

||Rng||

[dapper flume]

No favoring toward elites?

[mental sail]

Well so far for my runs, it was always on a non-elite

So maybe that’s a clue?

[knotty epoch]

it might be less favored for elites

but it's always possible

[inland ermine]

its not favored

so far ive had an even mix between the two

[deft gull]

I've had it on both, yeah

[dapper flume]

LOL ||Cerberus getting different defeat messages caught me off guard. Nice touch||

[burnt breach]

@solemn drum you can use my mod Codex Menu to test weapon aspects

[dapper flume]

||Does the big nectar bottle server any purpose other than trading for titanblood?||

[mental sail]

||Ambrosia||?

[burnt breach]

just talk in #h1-story-discussion lmao

[mental sail]

Yeah true...

[inland ermine]

im gonna do a run without picking up any boons

wish me luck

[knotty epoch]

inb4 first room boon

[inland ermine]

ill purge it

[minor hornet]

https://imgur.com/a/mAgiznQ

[burnt breach]

@inland ermine you can clear all your boons with my Codex Menu mod

will achieve same effect

[proper zodiac]

hmmm

my hades is no longer working

[burnt breach]

🤔

[cedar loom]

Has a no-boons run ever been achieved with that mod?

I'm still wondering about a max-heat run

||Max-heat, no boons||

[burnt breach]

well since I released it yesterday I don't think so

[patent umbra]

I've completed self imposed no boon runs.

allowed hammers though

[cedar loom]

I was thinking no boons or hammers at all

[sharp parcel]

you won't make it through a max heat run with boons

[cedar loom]

Are you sure

[burnt breach]

@patent umbra How did you do it?

at some point there will only be doors with boons, styx satyr rng too

[patent umbra]

If I got a boon I put it on call or cast and didn't use it, then purged it later

[burnt breach]

lmao you didnt use boons and also didnt use casts

0 heat right?

[sharp parcel]

yes, I am sure

[patent umbra]

fun fact, poms give 300+ gold if you have nothing to upgrade

[sharp parcel]

no?

it's 170

[patent umbra]

well the styx double poms then

[sharp parcel]

ah

340 then?

[unique river]

what if you buy a double pom

[patent umbra]

I was running underworld customs because I wanted to know what happens if you have nothing to give

[unique river]

with nothing to upgrade

[sharp parcel]

more money

damn, dude

and you beat Hades?

[patent umbra]

luckily you can just pass through

[burnt breach]

https://imgur.com/Y0lcofQ

[patent umbra]

yes, shield carried

[sharp parcel]

ah, blessed shield

[burnt breach]

195 gold

[sharp parcel]

truly, a god's weapon

[burnt breach]

yeah I can imagine it done with shield, tho its gonna take a while

[sharp parcel]

Hestia, too

[burnt breach]

well outside of shield, without boons you have 0 defensive options

[sharp parcel]

Hestia smacks for 150 with nothing, it's definitely doable

[burnt breach]

yeah but thats just once, then they're stuck

[opaque nexus]

You know the best part of Hestia

[burnt breach]

no

[sharp parcel]

@opaque nexus hold! What are your Nemesis strats?

I yearn to learn the way of Nemesis

[opaque nexus]

1. Because Artemis dash effectively doubles it, you can get 2 attack boons pretty much

[burnt breach]

get all the crits

[opaque nexus]

Aphro or arte attack on Hestia is insane

[burnt breach]

wdym doubles it

[sharp parcel]

that can't be right, Artemis attack gives no damage now

[opaque nexus]

2. The fact that a tiny little bullet can do 300 damage no crit

[sharp parcel]

rare Artemis attack is +27% damage

that's nothing

a common Demeter is 40%

[opaque nexus]

As for nemesis

You have the effective build

And the meme build

[burnt breach]

@opaque nexus which artemis boon?

[unique river]

tell me about the meme build

[sharp parcel]

only efficiency, this is a clowns free zone

[opaque nexus]

Artemis dash attack basically doubles Hestia damage

Because the dash attack gets the reload damage

So it can be a minimum 75% damage bonus and you can still get a regular attack boon

[patent umbra]

I like to get athena's status with hestia for the backstab bonus too

[opaque nexus]

Ok what you want for nemesis imo

World splitter because default sword moveset sucks

Demeter special so you can apply slow in a wide area

And aphro on attack

[patent umbra]

splitter or double dash strike

[sharp parcel]

damn, that's exactly what I run!

[opaque nexus]

You get privileged status and the enemies are slow and weak

[sharp parcel]

except the bloody game gave me Aphro special and Demeter attack

[opaque nexus]

The meme build is flurry slash Zeus attack

[sharp parcel]

hol up, what?

but Zeus attack isn't amped by the crit

[opaque nexus]

Nemesis actually has 5% less crit Chance than before long winter

Well any attack works

[sharp parcel]

I know

what, no, how?

[opaque nexus]

Why do they insist on nerfing nemesis

[sharp parcel]

Zeus damage is a separate instance from the attack

[opaque nexus]

Flat damage + fast attacks = good

[sharp parcel]

yes, but how does that mesh with Nemesis' crit?

[opaque nexus]

Nemesis doesn’t do much to be fair but it’s better than the other 2 for it

[sharp parcel]

wow

[dapper flume]

Are you not supposed to be able to talk to orpheus again after the first mention of eurydice?

[sharp parcel]

back up, lest Poseidon's wave swallows you whole

and by Poseidon's wave I mean Poseidon's wave loaded with Artemis cast

[opaque nexus]

Nemesis sword is one of the most fun weapons in the game but it’s held back by sword’s default moveset not being good at all

[sharp parcel]

it's only bad if you run blue shields

because they prevent burst

[opaque nexus]

It has the same issue as spear

It’s too hammer-reliant

[inland ermine]

i wish there was a way to easily reset runs

like a gta suicide button

[burnt breach]

@inland ermine reset runs?

[opaque nexus]

Extra trap damage makes it easy

[sharp parcel]

I think Zag special spear is self sufficient enough these days

[opaque nexus]

Zag spear got buffed

[burnt breach]

if you get hit by something you can give up instead of quitting

[opaque nexus]

It doesn’t change the seed

[sharp parcel]

and Guan Yu can smack all the way to 20 heat without hammers, provided you don't touch Forced Overtime

[opaque nexus]

You get the same items

Guan yu is such a weird weapon

[sharp parcel]

it's so easy

you put Athena on attack and Demeter on special

[opaque nexus]

It seems really fun

[sharp parcel]

done, you won

[burnt breach]

https://imgur.com/VrAeJgu

here, artemis dash attack with hestia

[sharp parcel]

however, it's best not played until you max out the aspect

[burnt breach]

seems to only increase bonus damage

@opaque nexus

[sharp parcel]

that ain't 300 fo sho

also, I hope devs see what you're doing

[burnt breach]

see what I'm doing?

[sharp parcel]

and put this into the game, make the courtyard actually useful

[opaque nexus]

Guess I was wrong

[unique river]

I did Athena attack, artemis special guan yu lvl2 last night and had a super easy time

[opaque nexus]

I remember it being higher

[burnt breach]

my hestia is level 1

[opaque nexus]

Oh

So it probably is 300 at level 5

[burnt breach]

but still it didnt do +100%, weird

as you can see normal attack is 150

[sharp parcel]

how is it level 1? You did 150 with the shot

[burnt breach]

then dash 200

[inland ermine]

guan yu is a guarnteed win every time

[burnt breach]

thats +50% not 100%

[sharp parcel]

that's a level 5 charged shot damage

[opaque nexus]

So guan yu op?

[sharp parcel]

it's Guan good

[inland ermine]

spear of achilles is really underrated

[unique river]

kind of needs a really specific build

[opaque nexus]

Will need to try it

[sharp parcel]

also, you can max out Lasting Consequences with it

[burnt breach]

oh yeah hold on, why am I dealing 150?

[opaque nexus]

It seems really fun

[inland ermine]

@unique river not really

[sharp parcel]

because LS doesn't affect GY's built-in healing

[opaque nexus]

How much is it to max guan yu?

[sharp parcel]

it's free heat!

15

3+3+3+3+3

[opaque nexus]

I thought it would be higher

[sharp parcel]

yeah, it's weird

3rd aspect is 16

[opaque nexus]

I’m glad but yeah

[sharp parcel]

so it's 5, 15, 16, 15

[opaque nexus]

I may switch from mostly playing nemesis to guan yu

[burnt breach]

@sharp parcel @opaque nexus yeah theres something weird with the artemis boon

I removed the boon and hestia did 50 dmg

with boon it deals 150 without even dashing

[sharp parcel]

without dashing?

are you sure it's not a bug with the 'boons in the courtyard' implementation?

cause I don't remember having issues with Arty dash in the game itself, though I've only used it with the sword

[burnt breach]

I can test in a run if you want

[inland ermine]

alright welp wish me luck max heat no boons

aspect of zagreus legendary sword

[sharp parcel]

I give you 5 rooms till you die

[uneven copper]

Whats the highest damage someone has hit? i just got an attack hit for 1200, highest I've seen...i'm imagining someone could probably break 2k under the right circumstances

[sharp parcel]

you can crit for 2k, yeah

max rarity, lvl 10 boon, with pressure points and increased crit damage

[uneven copper]

cool. Is it only possible against armor with the sniper/armor bow build? both of those are +300% against distance/armor

+crit

[sharp parcel]

oh, and you'd need Privileged Status as well

[uneven copper]

i forgot with PS did

[sharp parcel]

I've no idea what Zagreus bow is capable of

[uneven copper]

i don't have it yet.

[sharp parcel]

I only run Chiron, since that's the only bow that can smack everyone reliably

and my Hera isn't maxed

[uneven copper]

yeah idk i got flurry shot on my zag bo so you can stun lock with crits...i use special as a shotgon. 7 shots that crit is pretty strong if you find yourself close to folks

does hera activate cast effects or nah when you load the bloodstone

[sharp parcel]

no, it needs to connect]

either with an enemy or an obstacle

[uneven copper]

but shooting hera bow will activate cast on effect

[sharp parcel]

you also can't use casts normally if run Hera

not a big fan of that

[uneven copper]

I figured.

thats interesting

but it does seem logical as you dont need a ranged option on bow...you are ranged. So i like that

[sharp parcel]

it's limiting in regards to certain casts, like Ares' blades or Demeter's crystal

[slow arrow]

Can someone tell me what god mode is and does it make the game harder or easier?

[sharp parcel]

easier

[inland ermine]

i just beat the 3 furies

sweet jesus traps do 25 damage

[sharp parcel]

gives you damage resistance when you turn it on, which goes up each time you die

up to 80% DR

[slow arrow]

okay thanks @sharp parcel

[uneven copper]

are thoughts on temple of styx clear all the rooms or leave as soon as you get certain item

[inland ermine]

depends

[uneven copper]

situational details aside, like how low on health you are/money

buy and large i find myself only doing 4 each time

[sharp parcel]

it depends on what you want

[inland ermine]

if you are underpowered or if you havent got a lot of mirror upgrades then gtfo asap

[sharp parcel]

on lower heat, I found myself clearing out each tunnel to get enough gold for the special item from Charon's shop

as I'm heading towards 20 heat, I find myself skipping tunnels after getting the thing needed to progress

sticking around is too much of a risk

[uneven copper]

right right...thats generally how i see it. but sometimes the last tunnels are hard with only coin as a reward and its like...no reason to do this

do we know if time increases difficulty or is it only heat

[sharp parcel]

time?

there's a timer modifier

but that's it

[uneven copper]

Got it. Just didnt know if there was a downside to being slow af, i know some boons/charms improve if youre fast

[sharp parcel]

you can take as long as you want, whatever it takes to win

[uneven copper]

do those bonuses carry over even if you equip a different keepsake?

[sharp parcel]

my longest run took well over 50 minutes

no, those bonuses stay on only while you have the keepsake

so it's all or nothing

[inland ermine]

crap i just died to || Asterius' miniboss fight ||

he did like 60 with the leap slam

rip no boon run

[uneven copper]

lol i've cleared higher heat with bow but haven't cleared a no heat run with it yet

[sharp parcel]

MP3 was kind of underwhelming though

whoops, wrong server

[teal patrol]

Current run: going into furies fight with artemis legendary and her cast

with eris rail

:)

[sharp parcel]

classic

[teal patrol]

Alecto lasted eh maybe 15 seconds because of her immunity

[sharp parcel]

I understand that the game is a roguelite and you're encouraged to play against "the type", but I really wish there was a way to at least softly force what you wanna play with

[unique river]

what the

How did you even pull that off

[sharp parcel]

Artemis cast, all 6 of em

[near canopy]

How long should it take to heat the hydra

[teal patrol]

I hit myself with the eris aspect

then i spammed my cast

[near canopy]

I’m on my 10th run and seem to get stomped

[teal patrol]

then i spammed my triple bomb

[sharp parcel]

fat crits, further amplified by Eris' 60% damage increase

[teal patrol]

and then she died instantly

not instant because immune

but yeah

10 seconds i think

[near canopy]

Sry

Is it that I’m bad or just need to unlock more stuff

[sharp parcel]

how long to beat? I dunno, depends on what you're using and your mirror upgrades

[teal patrol]

Hydra is pretty tough to begin with

i beat my first run at 17 escapes, some people beat their first at 50

[near canopy]

I’ve like no mirror upgrades

[sharp parcel]

yeah, it's a big jump from Meg early on

[teal patrol]

Hydra is a big wall especially

[near canopy]

Beat as in escape hell ?

[sharp parcel]

no upgrades? How? You must have some keys and darkness

[teal patrol]

its very punishing

[near canopy]

Like no

As in barely any

[sharp parcel]

well, use em

what are you, saving em for the next life?

[teal patrol]

do some runs where you focus on getting darkness, take chaos boons that increase darkness you get, use the weapon with the dark aura

[sharp parcel]

[near canopy]

XD

[sharp parcel]

unlock the goods, get Death Defiance, more shards, backstab damage, etc.

[teal patrol]

You can get a lot of darkness if you focus on it

[sharp parcel]

and remember, Hydra can't kill you if you kill it first

[teal patrol]

Dash > Death Defiance (stack 2) > casts > Boiling blood is how id go for my first choices

dont go for all 3 DDs til you have more darkness

[sharp parcel]

oh yeah, 2nd dash is key

though 1st DD only costs 30

[teal patrol]

yeah

2nd is 100 if i remember correctly

3rd is 500 tho

[near canopy]

Oh I have maxed dash and upgraded death defiance

[teal patrol]

go for cast ammo and boiling blood next

ah yes my build just got flurry cast

how can i make it even more broken lol

[spring tundra]

The profile settings are corrupted and cannot be saved. What should I do?

[rustic heath]

Interesting. For me regular hydra at 0 heat was not a wall at all unlike Elysium

[teal patrol]

Elysium was really unfun in the last patch

its much better now

[rustic heath]

After i started beating Meg i went straight to Elysium every run

I only started dying to hydra at +50% speed

[opaque nexus]

I quit the game for like 3 days around late WTH update and early LW @teal patrol

Because of Elysium

[teal patrol]

it was so bad

its good now

atleast imo

[opaque nexus]

Day 1 long winter was

So absolutely terrible

They quickly fixed it though

Zag spear added a mind-blowing 10 extra flat damage to attack and dash attack

[rustic heath]

Thats 50% extra on first hit and 33% more on subsequent

[red coral]

@spring tundra talk about corruption issues in #h1-tech-support!

[sharp parcel]

I mean, 10 attack was a 50% damage increase

[rustic heath]

That scales with boons

[sharp parcel]

^

[rustic heath]

Its nothing to scoffat

[livid cargo]

@red coral you mean #h1-tech-support :P

[sharp parcel]

look at Zagreus sword, movement speed and dash distance

that's nothing

[rustic heath]

Imagine rail that suddenly does 15 per shot base

[red coral]

I do lol, thanks for the catch

[mental sail]

Omg, i’ve trying to draw hypnos for like 2 hours...

And I JUST realised that it’s not a headband on his head...

[wraith cipher]

third Death Defiance is 1000

[mental sail]

It’s one of those things you put on your eyes when you sleep

[teal patrol]

eris rail and achilles spear are the same aspect

and both are contender for best aspect in the game imo

[rustic heath]

Eee really?

I find achilles much more straightforward to use and it changes my build substantially

While eris is harder to use but works with everything

[teal patrol]

eris is harder?

[rustic heath]

With controller autoaim it goes towards enemy

But you often want to dash away or to the side

Maybe with mouse its easier

[teal patrol]

oh i play KbM

[blissful jay]

How i can report a bug?

[muted lichen]

press F10 in the game, @blissful jay

[blissful jay]

ty

[inland ermine]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/etvu49/extreme_measures_bone_hydra_is_the_worst/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x

[near canopy]

How can u post feedback ?

[knotty epoch]

you need to join the early access rank in #bot-commands

[near canopy]

Thank u

[winter turtle]

do you have to unlock demeter or am i just unlucky

[knotty epoch]

unlucky

[lusty wasp]

i think someone said you needed to reach the final boss at least once but no idea if its true

[winter turtle]

alright then

well i just roached him and quit the game

might as well try again

[lusty wasp]

but it would make sense with the conversations

gl

[winter turtle]

is that the past tense of reached

[lusty wasp]

yea reached at any point

just to have seen the cold outside

[winter turtle]

why did i say roached

jesus christ

[lusty wasp]

(i got it immediately after the update since i got there quite a while ago)

(she was the first boon after the update)

[winter turtle]

ah i see

i only just now reached the boss for the first time

[knotty epoch]

it's okay, george
one time when i was a kid i insisted for like an hour that the past tense was "roach"

[winter turtle]

why isnt it roach

[knotty epoch]

english is weird

[winter turtle]

Time for New English

@lusty wasp youre right just booted up the game and shes there

[lusty wasp]

nice

[past berry]

So u just collected the new Poseidon boon and my game froze with the sound effects going in loop in background

[finite dome]

https://imgur.com/Xa1HAXl

I think the devs saw this meme and though they needed to act

[hexed smelt]

i appreciate the edit made to that post :V

[finite dome]

No problem! I thought it would be better like that for this server 😄

[flint fossil]

it said a bad word didnt it :x

[hoary ore]

Anyone has any idea how to play the Lyre?

In game that is

[carmine pecan]

[minor hornet]

you just interact with it

[near canopy]

Gotta say so far hades is definitely one of my top ten games

Don’t know if it’s better than gungeon yet

[hoary ore]

@minor hornet just press E every run and it will eventually play something?

[minor hornet]

that's my understanding, yes, but you might want to check in with orpheus from time to time

[hoary ore]

Ok, another thing is what the hell unlock Magera's last heart?

I already gave her everything like 30runs ago and whenever I see her she just gives me the cold shoulder

[minor hornet]

is this including the super oj?

[hoary ore]

Whats the last interaction that makes her give you the companion?

I just want to get the Companion

Give her the first Improved Ambrosia

[minor hornet]

that's the ticket

[hoary ore]

It doesn't prompt me to give it to her

What do I need to do to get that prompt

I already maxed the normal ones, and it just doesn't let me give it to her

[minor hornet]

if you've already maxed her normal oj levels, you just need to keep having conversations with her, I believe

is there a little lock symbol in your codex?

[hoary ore]

Yup

Still locked

For prometheus it unlocked with the contract, Thanatos was just talking and seeing him talk to Hades

[minor hornet]

yup, 'fraid you just need to keep beating her and conversing with her back in the lounge

[hoary ore]

Magera is still waiting for a certain interaction but i maxed her out first like a million runs ago

and still nothing

I thought maybe I need to lose to her once in order to continue the story

[minor hornet]

nope, just gotta keep beating up those furies

[hoary ore]

Ok, thanks @minor hornet

[minor hornet]

good luck!

[random sandal]

Is hades available on Mac yet?

[sharp parcel]

nope

[random sandal]

Bummer

[livid cargo]

If they port it to mac it will be after full launch

[sinful yew]

Hello

Is it possible to migrate hades from epic to steam?

[hexed smelt]

no, but your save files will carry over if you re-purchase

they're entirely separate storefronts

[sinful yew]

Ah I see

So like pc vs ps4

thanks

[near canopy]

Which colour head of the hydra is the lowest health

[unique river]

jesus massive spin/quick spin on guan yu is so good

[brisk trail]

hey there, what do you guys think about the ability to customize the Cast crystal itself?

[tiny dust]

don't they all have the same health?

[brisk trail]

For example, being able to change the colors. I also think it would be nice if the bloodstones had a transparency effect when it is behind objects.

[minor hornet]

all spawned hydra heads have the same health

[static wadi]

hello

people

[brisk trail]

Heyo Gznm, how are you enjoying the game so far?

[static wadi]

well i have lot of work now

so i wait my weekend

and now i woke up at 3:00

dont know why and cant sleep

[hexed smelt]

guys..... this isn't really hades discussion

[static wadi]

sry

[hexed smelt]

could you take it to #off-topic-discussion or to dms?

[brisk trail]

Sorry.

[static wadi]

midnight is best time to have some 18 heat run

[torpid kindle]

Does Pierced Butterfly affect all damage or just regular attacks?

[static wadi]

all damage

[torpid kindle]

Alright, thanks. Was a bit unsure since it doesn't specify.

[light raven]

how far in the game do you have to be to unlock the guan yu aspect?

[brisk trail]

You need to get a unique dialogue from ||Achilles||. They'll give you a quote which you then bring to the spear to unlock it. How to activate the quote is not known to me.

[flat vapor]

you have to have, according to the patch notes, "several aspects unlocked" first

then achilles has a convo for you, with a big speech bubble like the contractor's

[unique river]

ayy new best time https://i.imgur.com/bzfuOQT.png

[wary citrus]

friendly reminder that Artemis is the only olympian that shows genuine care for you

[hexed smelt]

if you listen closely, you can hear hermes crying a little

don't be mean to my boy like this

[static wadi]

Gods are shiftshapers with their natures

[fringe pond]

I really think that in the end we will fight them

Since they are helping Zag for they own intentions like replacing his father with him or some other stuff

[near canopy]

Damn it I’ve died two times in a row when the hydra was one shot

It’s just so hectic

Is there a way to deal with the skeletons better

Cause they’re just really awkward

[static wadi]

@near canopy Hydra's?

[wary citrus]

@hexed smelt Hermes gets a pass

[dry rover]

https://puu.sh/F3JZc/9d2aabfa16.png

what would you recommend to pick as last biome keepsake with this build

i also got triple shot

[wary citrus]

bruh wtf

[dry rover]

https://puu.sh/F3KmV/2e8c48de2e.png

[wary citrus]

that charge special is a new daedalus modifier right?

[static wadi]

@dry rover у тебя нет апгрейда на больше стрел

а этот новый апргрейд - не ок

[wary citrus]

also I usually end up just taking the acorn for hades

[static wadi]

лучше выпустить 3-4 залпа чем 1 заряженный

[dry rover]

я только что пятью выстрелами убил минотавра @static wadi

и это хит 18

[static wadi]

well

ok

but standing steel

and waiting to face some

big dmg

[dry rover]

yeah kinda annoyin, but im managing

[static wadi]

not ok

and steel need more arrows

from special

[dry rover]

im just not sure should i go teeth or keep on goin with a spearpoint

i also got just 1 life left

[static wadi]

and some good attack boon for privileged

spear was nerfed no?

it's not so good

in styx now

i prefer Charon's

[dry rover]

yeah, but since im stayin still chargin my special its kinda useful

[static wadi]

even if it's not so good

for Chiron

[unborn owl]

for some reason im missing one dire enemy from wanton ransacking have i been unlucky or something? just wonderinh

[static wadi]

@unborn owl screen

[dry rover]

whos wanton ransacking again?

[static wadi]

минибоссы вроде

[hexed smelt]

that's the prophecy for facing all the minibosses

[dry rover]

im not sure, but are this prophecy somewhat combined with one of the heat curses?

[unborn owl]

im having trouble sending a screenshot wow

it might be

[static wadi]

@unborn owl imgur

links only allowed

[unborn owl]

okay got it

[dry rover]

im in a game rn, but it might be combined with a curse which force you have additional encountes with elites or whatever they called

[hexed smelt]

it's not, pivo, i've completed it on my main file

and i really don't play with heat that much

[dry rover]

nevermind then

[unborn owl]

oh maybe send a link of the completed prophecy?

[static wadi]

@unborn owl mine on russian

and i'm middle run

[unborn owl]

thats okay

[static wadi]

is it one of the last?

in the list

[unborn owl]

its between soul catcher and snakestone

[static wadi]

it may be big Rat

big Satyr

big Bottler

[unborn owl]

oh its the bottler

thank you

[static wadi]

@unborn owl if u take Mid Man

i will almost 100% meet him

[unborn owl]

great!

[static wadi]

cus miniboss rooms always will give u 2 bosses 😄

[echo sluice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/252546206113202179/670721908031094787/70oq2y3ie0c41.png

[brisk trail]

this would be the most funny and datted dialogue if it existed

[static wadi]

is it somekind joke?

my english is not good enough

[echo sluice]

You know the ligma joke? It's like that

[static wadi]

ligma?

what is it

[hexed smelt]

nope, no, do not, we're not doing this here

[fluid charm]

So there's a joke in memes where "ligma" is a leading question where the response is an inappropriate phrase

And we'll leave it at that

[hexed smelt]

thank you

[static wadi]

ok some secrets stays uncovered this time

[buoyant girder]

okay yeah i see the hype behind zeus shield

[dry rover]

https://puu.sh/F3KWy/9e00af373e.png

was still able to pull this out

[echo sluice]

Basically you have a word that sounds like another word when you add another word to it

[static wadi]

@dry rover https://prnt.sc/qrl1yl

[echo sluice]

I.e, "joe mama" sounds like "yo mama"

Which probably doesn't help if you don't know American accents very well

[static wadi]

well i'm russian

so

absolutely not

[fluid charm]

That's fair

[modern garnet]

Hmm this joke would be difficult to translate

[dry rover]

@static wadi wow what a lucky boy u are. i never ever was able to pull more then 2 atack or special buffs

[static wadi]

yeah luck as it is

[dry rover]

btw this special 300% is okay i would say

but probably will never pick it again

[static wadi]

i hate bow special

it's so slow

and cant be canceled

and if i need to charge it

[dry rover]

there is probably no other way with bow to raise heat

[fluid charm]

Chiron Aspect is probably one of the better ones for the bow special in my opinion

[static wadi]

that's why i took Chaos shield

[woeful summit]

Bow in general feels slow

Me no like

[static wadi]

Chaos shield is best version of Chiron bow

[fluid charm]

Haha fair enough

[woeful summit]

Hera aspect is a fun idea but I feel like it doesn’t work that great

And Chiron yeah, is worse chaos shield p much

[fluid charm]

Hera aspect actually can have some fun uses if you figure it out

[dry rover]

btw was not able to test new lifesteal sword daedalus upgrade

what does it do?

[static wadi]

1 hp per attack

[dry rover]

fe

[static wadi]

-70% hp

[fluid charm]

One really fun use I figured out is if you got the Aphrodite cast in the King of Hell update, you could frontload all of your damage by loading all of your casts into one shot and exploding an enemy

And yeah the lifesteal sword is interesting, though it's pretty brutal at -70% health

[static wadi]

high heat can oneshot u i guess with that

[dry rover]

the most fun for me, when i got afrodite legendary, which also work on bosses

simply easy run

[woeful summit]

Aphrodite cast is probably the best for Hera bow

[static wadi]

@woeful summit Dio?

[fluid charm]

Oooh that sounds really fun

[woeful summit]

Dio too

[static wadi]

with Zeus legendary

[woeful summit]

Yee

[patent umbra]

Ive has best success with poseidon and hera

[fluid charm]

Yeah after Aphrodite it's probably Poseidon and Dio in terms of Hera Aspect casting

[static wadi]

btw does Demeter has duo with Dio?

[patent umbra]

Icewine is demeter dio duo

[static wadi]

what does it does?

[dry rover]

its on cast skill

[static wadi]

oh cast

nvm

[dry rover]

yeah was like that too

meh

[fluid charm]

Speaking of aspects: loving the visual design of the Aspect of Guan Yu and it's making me excited to see who might be the Aspects of other Infernal Arms. King Arthur with Stygius? Robin Hood/William Tell for Coronacht? Ooh haha it'd be super cool if the final Stygius aspect was the Transistor

[woeful summit]

:O

did not think of that

that would be so hype

[wary citrus]

Not just the visual design, the little hops Zag does with all the Guan Yu animations is adorable

[dry rover]

mate, its from the mythology

robin hood is not mythology character

[woeful summit]

the transistor would be cool tho

[static wadi]

Transistor is not a sword

and Guan yu is real person btw

[wary citrus]

guan yu also doesn't appear anywhere in greek mythology tho

[woeful summit]

[static wadi]

Legendary chinese general

[dry rover]

yeah it was said hes chinese

[echo sluice]

Dunno what powers the Transistor would have, but it would be a really cool aspect for the blade

[fluid charm]

I mean Robin Hood was more of an example of a folk legend/hero

[static wadi]

and i dont remeber any greek myth with rifle

tbh

[woeful summit]

lmao

[wary citrus]

Sword should definitely be king arthur themed though, I agree

Aspect of Excalibur or something

[dry rover]

im more interested what would be last weapon, then new aspects, cuz they dont change core gameplay

[woeful summit]

guan yu changes the spear a lot

but i get what ya mean

[wary citrus]

nah lol

[static wadi]

looks like they out of ideas

i rly dont like that SGG going away from greek mythology

[echo sluice]

Imagine if the Transistor still narrated and had no clue where he was

[wary citrus]

it's just glass cannon spear with longer cast animation

Not original but definitely super fun

[dry rover]

i personaly myself would prefer some katana as sword aspect

then excalibur

[vocal thorn]

I thought the nemesis sword was a katana?

[wary citrus]

Maybe a third ranged-oriented weapon?

So we have 3/3?

[dry rover]

@vocal thorn hell no (:

[wary citrus]

Something like a boomerang or idk

[static wadi]

one edged weapon is not always katana

@wary citrus we have shield

[echo sluice]

I'm thinking next will either be a hammer or fast, close range weapon

[wary citrus]

@static wadi I see, man of culture, only using the shield for special builds

hammer would be pog

[vocal thorn]

A lot of people use the spear as a ranged weapon if they get the right hammer upgrades

[static wadi]

Sword in game pretty close to hammer imo

[dry rover]

some gauntlets as the last weapon would kinda cool maybe

[vocal thorn]

like, I've seen streamer videos of the spear special being spammed over and over

[fluid charm]

My guess would be a hammer or maybe gauntlets yeah

[hexed smelt]

i want magic :c

[static wadi]

some Scyth mb

[fluid charm]

Oh magic would be dope

[wary citrus]

When I use spear or shield I literally rebind my special to left click and never press regular attack once

[echo sluice]

I had an amazing run with the new Guan Yu special

[fluid charm]

Magic staff with an aspect of Hecate?

[static wadi]

it can be Demeter aspect Cronos aspect and Tomatos aspect

[dry rover]

@wary citrus i know what r u talkin bout here

[wary citrus]

idk, does magic really fit the game's vibe that much?

[dry rover]

i dont like the idea, but if that would be it, fine

[wary citrus]

Mood

[static wadi]

replace bloodstones for rainbow cupcakes

MAGIK PAVARS

[fluid charm]

I mean they already have witches