And spear punch
#h1-discussion
bronze locust
glossy dirge
Damn thats a nice build
trail stag
I like punch
static wadi
so lucky
glossy dirge
If only you got artemis dash for the deeeeeps
static wadi
and supp fire
trail stag
Hermes + support fire and crits on rail
glossy dirge
Imagine artemis attack, aphro special, artemis dash with spread fire/explosive
That would be nutty
bronze locust
Also did tipsy hera buikd twas fun
odd bramble
I got Flurry Fire + Hermes + Support Fire w/ Explosive Fire and Heartbreak Strike, but I only got Support and Heartbreak in Styx lol, was going around with the fastest unupgraded attacks in Elysium
bronze locust
Cmv zeus sheild shoild proc support each hit
glossy dirge
Dont think it should
Otherwise its a slippery slope, like does every bow special arrow proc support fire?
Does each chaos shield? Rift blade?
glossy dirge
All im saying is that if each instance of damage on blitz disc procs support fire, it wouldnt be consisntent to other multiple damage instance weapons/boons
split haven
its not the projectile it's self that triggers support fire, it's the act of even doing the attack, special, or cast
what's really scuffed is that one of the bow's aspects doesn't trigger support fire when you fire the cast/or load the cast into the bow
glossy dirge
Well, it only technicallt fires once i guess
But burst shot triggers 2 support fites
Support fires*
So that might be a bug?
foggy imp
I spent like 6 hours trying to get exagryph support fire combo and I could not find it
I ended up running an Artemis cast with like 6 cast bullets and automatic return build that was a really funny combo lol
glossy dirge
I remember the time i got greater recall with fully loaded
Fun times isnt it?
What kinda cast did you have
bronze locust
If im doing cast build non tippsy
Im using posiden so greater recall is eh
Since im so close
Unless hunting blade
glossy dirge
Greater recall is great on poseidon
Specially on styx
Just fire awat with no concern for humanity
glossy dirge
Noice
I had poseidon cast when i got that combo
Styx was fun cause i just aimed randomly
foggy imp
there are runs where I get to the final boss and I just don’t have the damage to kill it
glossy dirge
And things would be blowing up around me
foggy imp
I’m so excited for the full release 🥺🥺
glossy dirge
That happens. Thats why i usually prioritize curses even if theyre lower rarity
foggy imp
All of the gods designs are so pretty
glossy dirge
The damage boost from privileged status is big
foggy imp
I’ve just been really unlucky with finding boons recently
I’ve gone like entire floors and only found one
lusty stump
just got low tolerance to go along with Heartbreak flourish for the special and Blight Strike for the spear that has Furry Jab. I can inflect so much poision now in a quick.
foggy imp
Or sometimes Ill get a trial vs a Daedalus hammer
lusty stump
also like 8 poision stack per enemy
foggy imp
I have maxed titan blood in my spear so getting the bonus range or flurry jab or even both is insane
When you get charm on regular attacks and bully every boss 😎
The one time I almost finished the final boss I missed my last hit and died ;-;
glossy dirge
My hitbox and iframes wrnt badonkers last time and I lost to hades after starting out with 3 DDs
It was the biggest feelsbad run
Because everything up until that was smooth sailing with my artemis-aphrodite nemesis sword
midnight salmon
just realized dusa is short for medusa
ive come to share my enlightenment with the people
haughty bolt
Do any of you happen to know of there is a discord where people are modding Hades? Feel free to dm me if you have any info
@midnight salmon more than just that, she is maid-dusa
midnight salmon
ive been blessed with the holy knowledge
nocturne rampart
Do you keep the pierced butterfly bonus damage when you change your Keepsakes?
static wadi
no
nocturne rampart
I'm sad rn :(
glossy dirge
Poseidon rail is awesome
Just need sea storm
For the one attack priviliged status
static wadi
zeus and dio better
glossy dirge
Nah poseidon zeus is gucci
Especially with both their legendaries?
Double push = one lightning bolt each push which has an addition lightning burst and an extra chance for another lightning
All the lightning
livid cargo
@haughty bolt i dont think people will attempt to mod until the game is done
glossy dirge
I mean risk of rain 2 has a big mod community despite still being in pretty early access
Slay the spire had mods even before release
Its not very uncommon for roguelikes to get mods, even at early access
brisk trail
https://clips.twitch.tv/AttractiveTemperedGrasshopperPeteZaroll Anyone able to tell what killed this guy? Was watching his stream and we have no idea.
vale kite
the wave he sends with the axe slam
brisk trail
Aaah, so it was.
vale kite
it's hidden by the shades but thats what killed zag here
vivid raven
The mini carts in elysium hiding behind the pillars is such a cool game mechanic that almost made me punch a hole in my monitor the first time I saw it
brisk trail
the mini carts make me do that just by existing
vivid raven
My only problem with the big one is that it doesn’t get consistently stunned when you lead it into walls and pillars like the Minotaur does
floral sonnet
Big one's a pincushion if you have any ranged options
vivid raven
Well yeah
But if you’re playing sword you’re kinda sol
There are options, but it still sucks
floral sonnet
Yeah, elysium is usually where I die when doing sword runs
vivid raven
And if you haven’t gotten any of Hermes’ movement options they move faster than you
Or zag aspect
But who uses zag aspect on sword lol
floral sonnet
I can't believe skelly is asking me to waste titan blood on zag aspect
vivid raven
do it
red frigate
hey boyos, was wandering is there any use to ambrosya??
tight idol
I'm not totally sure, but my impression is that you gift it the same way you do nectar, but only after the character likes you enough @red frigate
Hope someone can confirm/correct
brisk trail
I use zag aspect on sword lol
I find that I shoot myself in the foot too much when playing with the more specialised aspects so just some movement speed is a nice bonus for me
red frigate
im tapped out on nectaring best girl artemis so i should be able to give her amrosya but I cant
dawn elk
I didn't see it until after I was leaving the room, but I just saw a shiny blue urn in a Charon shop
What does that do?
It looked like a gold-giving urn but it was blue.
wind oak
Zag aspect on sword is the most useless aspect out of literally every aspect in the game, in my opinion
green lotus
The blue urns are the same as the gold gurns so don't worry 'bout it
Also Jell-O, you can't give Ambrosia to Artemis, unfortunately. Only a select few characters can receive Ambrosia. I won't post them here since I feel like that could be considered a spoiler, though I imagine you can easily find them on the wiki.
dawn elk
ah okay cool, thanks
red frigate
thanks xeni
green lotus
np :)
livid cargo
@green lotus no, you can give ambrosia
You are thinking of Nectar
Ambrosia: currency used to gift everyone
Nectar: speciality currency used to gift certain people
green lotus
I'm pretty sure it's the other way around
static wadi
@livid cargo u wrong
livid cargo
Hm
green lotus
Spoiler warning: this page contains the characters whom you can gift special gifts to
here, https://hades.gamepedia.com/Ambrosia
livid cargo
Ah ok sorry my bad
static wadi
in old version
green lotus
i was wondering which one i was supposed to be gifting
static wadi
nectar was called ambrosia iirc
green lotus
checking the wiki, yeah, they reversed the names
static wadi
not reversed
green lotus
swapped
static wadi
we had only lil bottles
green lotus
nectar was called ambrosia, ambrosia was called nectar
static wadi
not big
green lotus
i am confusion
odd quail
Does support fire spawn multiple arrows if multiple targets are hit by the same attack?
such as hitting 2 enemies side by side or the bow's volley
odd quail
and that's what makes it so frustrating imo -.-
indigo mango
its not on hit
static wadi
well it would be to op
indigo mango
its on use
static wadi
imagine shotgun with that
indigo mango
the bow special fires multiple arrows, but its only 1 use of the special
static wadi
)
static wadi
i prefer SF with rail
odd quail
SF?
static wadi
Support Fire
odd quail
duh
thanks, I'm still relatively new to the game, so I haven't memorised all the abbreviations yet
odd quail
yeah, im just stupid :p
crisp raptor
Am I using the bow wrong or something because it just feels pretty weak compared to the others? I have a 5 heat clear with every other weapon (Besides the spear) and for the bow I only have the basic no heat clear.
static wadi
bow is slow 4 me
his Q is slow and cant be cancelled
in some room u cant just fight in a distance
also try Hera
it kinda easier
crisp raptor
I never use the Q it feels too weak to me. the only time I actually used it was like a shotgun when I put poison on it.
static wadi
but boring
frigid radish
brisk trail
I love this game a lot, and all of its enemies and gameplay mechanics
but I dread making a new run just to end up fighting Hydra, it is a boring boss fight
I know I'm not the first one to say this
It is ok to defeat, but it is not fun
Theseus and Minotaur boss fight is really fun tho
static wadi
@brisk trail did u try ex hydra?
brisk trail
Ohh, I have not played in that time where Ex Hydra were in the game, but it seems less bad, but it was too easy and not that fun from what I've watched from videos
Base Hydra is good when learning the game.
EM Hydra is one of the nastiest force multipliers in the game, though.
It alone makes Heightened Security a run ender.
vivid raven
hey so I've been watching haelian's vids because I want to try and decrease my run time, and I noticed the RNG manipulation he does at the start
I can't find any explanations, anyone have anything?
brisk trail
No idea.
static wadi
what manipulation?
vivid raven
does he suicide till he starts with hammer?
or is there some way to do that reliably?
livid cargo
That could be it
Funnily enough on speedrun.com there is a category for fastest death
In Hades
vivid raven
he manipulates it to start with hammer, get's epic ares special, then gets athena and duo back to back
I was just curious if anyone knows of like a reddit post explaining discovery or something, because if there is I can't find it
chilly stump
Haelian might be using the WR seed from here! He was the one that originally shared it as well.
https://www.speedrun.com/hades/resources
indigo mango
oh i was wondering if sharing seeds was a thing
ive seen plenty of other rogue-like etc speedruns
and thats often how its done
chilly stump
It is, though not in an official capacity. You can share save files that have a certain seed attached to it, but Hades doesn't have any sort of seed tracking or way to make specific seeds active.
rapid mulch
yo i cant go into the game rn
indigo mango
oh sure sure, save sharing was all i meant
rapid mulch
how many days until the major update?
chilly stump
My pleasure! And, two weeks from today @rapid mulch
vivid raven
thanks that was exactly the kind of answer I'm looking for!
rapid mulch
thank you <33
lusty stump
can't wait to see what's in the new update
vivid raven
I'm not really familiar with roguelike/lite speedrunning so I didn't even think of seeds
chilly stump
Yeah, we've had people speedrunning Hades since we first launched! I highly recommend speedrun.com and checking out the Hades speedrunning community, but please be careful with downloading resources for the game, as they may be tied to older updates and so may not be useable.
indigo mango
yeah, its often how runners can guarantee starting "fresh"
latent light
So fellas sorry if this is out of place, but if I wanted to make a suggestion I thought would be cool would here be the place to do it?
indigo mango
awesome! I've been tangential to speedrunning for awhile, and this is an amazing game to get involved with it
i wonder if theres a server i can find for it
oh wait there it is
lusty stump
if I am not wrong, I think #hades-feedback is for such stuff? Though I am unsure, maybe it is here and that channel is regarding the current stuff in the game.
latent light
Im not sure
Well im gonna go on a limb then and just assume you guys are fans of the game as well
Do I need to mark it as a spoiler if it's something that happens in Elysium?
signal spoke
If it's gameplay related and you wish to discuss it with others, #h1-builds-and-combat would be the best spot for it
indigo mango
in #h1-builds-and-combat would be safer
latent light
Dope
indigo mango
@graceful orchid you take that back! 😛
graceful orchid
Won't - she does! 😛
safe crow
Will we ever get an official poll on "who's the best girl" for Hades
chilly stump
No way!! We'd never give the power to judge deities to mortals, there's a whole myth about why you shouldn't. 😱
brisk trail
Christianity?
chilly stump
candid pine
Where can I find some HD Hades photos for my wallpaper? The one I've got got pixelated af when used
brisk trail
Let me be rude. 
candid pine
Oh schnap
brisk trail
Okay, I'm done.
chilly stump
We have some HD images on our website here! We've been releasing character backgrounds as we update.
https://www.supergiantgames.com/games/hades
brisk trail
Wait, golden apple? Is Eris involved with that?
candid pine
Ah, alright, thanks a lot!
indigo mango
i even made the paris joke to a friend of mine when i got a trial of the gods with aphrodite and athena
brisk trail
Yup, she was.
indigo mango
there are actually multiple golden apple myths in greek mythology
candid pine
Any teasers on who our new Olympian might be?
indigo mango
we're thinking Demeter, from an old preview
split haven
im just curious what her boons would be like tnh
indigo mango
wait 2 weeks and find out!
candid pine
Not really Hades related but where can I check a photo's dimensions?
vernal wagon
is it known what's the required distance for a foe to be "distant" for the purposes of keepsakes and hammer upgrades?
vernal wagon
that's pretty generous
static wadi
u can easily check it urself with skelly
vernal wagon
true enough
brisk trail
There's no visual indication.
brisk trail
But the camera zooms in and out in fights, obscuring the exact range.
Visual indication on any "distant" attack as well as possibly scaling would be nice.
static wadi
i made some tests with that trinket
and had some... weird result
1st
in max spear AA distance my AA still get usual dmg
but my Q dmg increased
also there is some spot where is ur Q doing usual dmg when it goes to enemy
and increased hen it goes back
but it's ok
brisk trail
Yeah, none of the spear's attacks, except maybe a fully charged Massive Spin or Extended Jab, will reach that far.
static wadi
that's why i asked add skelly or training room between lvl areas
latent light
At that point I doubt it's even worth it
static wadi
but ppl didnt like that idea
coarse junco
I would assume it’s more useful on the bow
And IIRC, the spear distant damage upgrade comes with a spear attack range boost as well.
brisk trail
Petition to add sex scene with Dusa. She works really hard and she legit likes Zagreus.
novel jacinth
i will end you
brisk trail
She is cleaning the rafters.
novel jacinth
🤦♂️
safe crow
Wait right Greek Myth literally had Waifu wars
brisk trail
Yeah, must suck to get tilted and threatening people in a cringeworthy way online about video game characters, oh boy, special kids again.
Oops.
Better watch that puny mouth of yours, Penguin.
static wadi
chil guys
brisk trail
Put your mind to work and you'll figure something out.
flat vapor
yall.
chilly stump
Not positive what's going on here but let's move conversation along and remember the rules of our server.
static wadi
it's me bad person here
chilly stump
First is be kind, second is keep it clean.
chilly stump
That's not how that works. 😄 Back to Hades focus folks.
chilly stump
Zagreus is optimistic if nothing else. 😄
static wadi
Lesser god
brisk trail
@chilly stump If you try to read a bit above, I was actually in a poor but still funny and unrelated way, was talking about Zagreus and Dusa, and then I got "attacked" by the next commenters making their assumptions and whatnot. I think this is where the thing went off the rails, but fine, I am cleaning my case here. Not gonna be in trouble for special kids.
static wadi
what does it mean
coarse junco
You know, I always wondered. If ||Hades|| knows that ||Zag is always going to die at the end of the fight regardless if Hades kill him or not|| why is he even bothering in the first place
safe crow
Let's just wrap this up lads
chilly stump
Hey Noel, I did read above! Hence the keep it clean and kind reminder. Thanks though!
brisk trail
Which I agree.
novel jacinth
noel are you sarcastic i cant tell?
safe crow
Does he know that Zag will die after his defeat
Haven't seen a dialogue indicating as such
split haven
my vibes are being knocked out rn
novel jacinth
yes
coarse junco
He has. One dialogue in particular shows up where ||Hades asks “you know you die the moment you cross the threshold. So why do you even bother?” Zag basically says that it’s for practice for when he CAN eventually cross the threshold and he has nothing better to do||
brisk trail
I think it's also because of the game's design for now, it's still in EA, so it makes sense for it to be in a way of stopping Zagreus.
static wadi
@coarse junco u may be want #h1-story-discussion for that
novel jacinth
🤦♂️
coarse junco
Yeah. Doing the spoiler in chat for now is getting kind of tedious. I think the conversation is done anyway though.
vivid raven
So, quick question for anyone listening
what does Zag do in the underworld when he's not trying to get out?
mighty rose
vibe
brisk trail
Walking around and talking to everyone, gifting stuff to them, training and using the Skelly, or just lying around I assume, since his chambers at least are filled with so many cozy things ?
vivid raven
sounds about right
brisk trail
And make Hades angry, yeah. lol
vivid raven
what I meant was before he ||found out about Percyphone||
static wadi
@vivid raven training
chilling
make a mess in his room
to make father angry
petting Cerberus
vivid raven
awesome
static wadi
flirtin meg
and tomatos
wait
not tomatos
||he thought he is his brother at this moment||
safe crow
I thought they went beyond flirting
vivid raven
I assume it was a euphemism
hexed smelt
thanatos isn't zagreus's brother, though
vivid raven
lmao
hexed smelt
nope
static wadi
why not
vivid raven
pop it over to spoilers ig?
static wadi
||Nyx Tomatos mother and he thought his mother too||
vivid raven
blanking everything is tedious
static wadi
doesnt it mean?
hexed smelt
you play the game in russian, right?
static wadi
and?
hexed smelt
i'm not sure the russian version has had the changes made 🤔
static wadi
what this about?
vivid raven
¯_(ツ)_/¯
hexed smelt
maybe it does, rex, but we're not going to discuss it on the server
lusty stump
If I remember there was not, no. it seems to line up from what I have seen while playing.
as not any changes
vivid raven
Alright sorry
lusty stump
though yeah even in English I kind of got confused of how the family tree was.
static wadi
@lusty stump if people(gods) have same mother - arent they brothers even with different fathers?
lusty stump
in game she is kept being mentioned as step mother or like a replacement mother for Zag, but maybe I remember it wrong and she is mentioned more as caretaker that takes care of him as his mother would.
I guess that part that may confuse people
static wadi
@lusty stump it's kinda spoiler
hexed smelt
@static wadi in the "welcome to hell" update, the game text was modifed so that zagreus isn't related to either thanatos or megaera
static wadi
what do u mean
hexed smelt
if the localisation is using older text, this might be why it seems confusing
gray tinsel
question, don't know if its been answered or not. Does pierced butterfly effect carry over if you switch to a different item?
static wadi
no
lusty stump
nope
flat vapor
@gray tinsel nope
static wadi
it doesnt
gray tinsel
tyty
safe crow
man why can't I get people to have him callef Thaddy
I might have also thought of an extremely cursed from that previous phrase
hexed smelt
thanatos and hypnos are nyx's sons
safe crow
I assume this means Nyx is now the caretaker of Zag instead of Mother when we first meet her?
brisk trail
||Nyx was never Zagreus's mother.||
brisk trail
||And it's disproven fairly early in the game.||
static wadi
yes but we missing BIG timeline from zags childhood and youth
vivid raven
And thus, my initial question of what zag did before the events of the game
static wadi
ok i should now try 9 heat run i guess(
granite rapids
i have a question: i've seen people able to move mid-spin attack with the spear, but i've never been able to do it. is there a trick to it? or do you think it might be my inputs (i'm using an xbox controller)
hexed smelt
you can charge up the spin attack, then dash and it'll be released where you dash to, if that's what you mean
granite rapids
oh!
i've been releasing it while holding the direction stick
i think that makes sense now, thank you
safe crow
Seems like I'll have to replay the initial part to understand the changes
brisk trail
Am I the only person who thought it was made abundantly clear that the only person in the House related to Zagreus is Hades?
gaunt bane
you're not alone, i always read it that way too
safe crow
I mean I do abundantly get that Zag was never related to Nyx
paper ermine
Anybody else think ||Lament of Orpheus|| is an absolute bop?
paper ermine
Na
safe crow
Which seems to be the case
brisk trail
Yes, that was how he was raised.
gaunt bane
i mean, he calls her by her name
paper ermine
If you play far enough, you get the truth.
static wadi
didnt he said it when he had his dream?
brisk trail
The big reveal dream involves him confronting Nyx over the lie.
gaunt bane
but yes it might be more accurate to say that some text was clarified, i suppose?
brisk trail
"There is no god of talking back to me," line was changed.
Nyx, Than, and Hypnos are all mentioned as family members, but not specifically yours.
Personally, I was okay with the old line.
It fits with the concept that they were raised as a family, and I think I just liked Hades last line and Zagreus's response more.
safe crow
Maybe my Engiis no gud and didn't get Zag never thought Nyx as his real mum
brisk trail
No, Zagreus did think Nyx was his mother.
Even with the revelation she was still a wonderful caretaker.
static wadi
u force me to start new save -_-
opaque nexus
Yo zag would be a good ballerina have you seen him when you charge spin attack and spin around
safe crow
I, I don't understand what the whole above texts reasoning Nyx was never Zag's mother. My whole question was that whether or not Zag thought Nyx was his Mum
Maybe my engish no gud and didn't phrase the question properly
safe crow
was it our fault? Did we phrase our questions wrong? What??
static wadi
idk
vivid raven
||In the flashback where zag finds out about Persephone he literally says that he thought Nux was his mother||
vivid raven
Well I thought it was open and shut
static wadi
same
vivid raven
Nyx even has lines saying ||she still cares for him as her child despite not being his actual mother||
static wadi
yes like that
safe crow
Like that was our point
Not that if she is, or if she isn't
But whether or not if Zag thought she was his mum
Was our questions
vivid raven
Yeah he did before the letter
hexed smelt
But he doesn't, and that's where we're dropping it, okay?
vivid raven
Aight
vivid raven
My question is when are we getting bouldy bond formed scene
That’s what the people want
static wadi
bouldy is for Sizif
safe crow
This lad is asking thr REAL QUESTIONS HERE
livid cargo
When is bouldy getting a spinoff puzzle game
tepid yacht
titled bouldy’s uphill adventure
vivid raven
All of the puzzles are a straight line
tepid yacht
if you don’t get enough combos in time, bouldy rolls down the hill and you have to start over
static wadi
Bouldy and Indiana Jones
why there is item in well for Cast(even 2) item for attack and no items for Q
vernal wagon
guys is it me or do boons literally look different when they have higher rarity options?
vivid raven
But when you get to the end ||it rolls down anyway||
static wadi
@vernal wagon no
vernal wagon
I get the feeling I've seen artemis' to be either mostly yellow or with a blue aura
vernal wagon
yup
static wadi
never mentioned that
brisk trail
There are certain times when boons have boosted rarity, in challenge rooms and in the Styx shop, and their aura will be slightly brighter/flashier/more significant.
minor crown
hey guys, silly question
my boyfriend just started playing and wants to know if he logs out in the middle of a run will it save? or is there a specific button we should press?
he just beat the hydra and he doesn't want to lose that progress
radiant tangle
There are two buttons to watch out for; Quit and Give Up
minor crown
ok perfect
radiant tangle
If you've taken damage in a room, it doesn't allow you to Quit and save progress, instead making you Give Up the run
minor crown
ok cool
i think he is just in the middle of a level
we just want to go get dinner and hes worried he will lose all run progress HAHA
radiant tangle
Once he's beaten a room and taken a reward, he should be able to save and Quit
minor crown
yay! ok thank you for your help uwu
radiant tangle
You're welcome!
static wadi
Why does Tomatos and Hypnos looks so different
teal gorge
Question - when choosing a boon, in front of its name, some have a little symbol (Codex? entry?) with an exclamation mark and others don'tt.. Does that mean it is new, or? I ask because others do not.
Are they denoting fulfilling a minor prophecy/contract check?
static wadi
arent they Twins
@teal gorge it's prophecy
if u put ur mouse on it
there would be explanation
teal gorge
Oi, so it is filling out a "???" in a contract in my quarters?
Oi, A 'fated' deal, yes. It does note it when I mouse over! Tyvm! @static wadi
Just one of many daily brainfarts, heh. thonk :3
brisk trail
There's different kinds of twins than just identical.
And I think think Thanatos is the older one, anyway.
static wadi
@teal gorge also u can give 2 more nectar for chaos to have 2 more prophecy
teal gorge
Ooh, good to know! 
bright wolf
Hi guys! Not sure if this is the place to ask this but.. where would I be able to find the background art of the Supergiant Games discord channel as a wallpaper? Looks really cool
Thanks!
bright wolf
ikr
static wadi
Tomatos here looks ok btw
modern garnet
🍅
flat vapor
the major weapons of the sgg games: hammer, small sword, big sword, book
static wadi
Knowledge is power!
strong heron
re: thanatos and hypnos, iirc hades has a line referring to them as nyx's twin sons, so they are twins
but fraternal twins can look different
my brother and i look similar, but not any more to each other than to our other siblings
static wadi
what different between siblings and twins
bleak eagle
All twins are siblings but not all siblings are twins
red coral
twins are siblings that are born on the same exact birthday, siblings are just two people who share the same parents but not the same birthday!
static wadi
@red coral so siblings is like usual brother and sisters?
copper adder
Yeah
red coral
yup!
static wadi
and Tomatos and Hypnos are?
copper adder
Tomatos
red coral
yes, they are definitely siblings, but the game lists Thanatos and Hypnos as twin siblings!
static wadi
they look different
copper adder
Also there's fraternal twins meaning just the same birthday, and identical twins meaning same birthday and same DNA, thus the same (to a degree) appearance
Thanatos and Hypnos are fraternal twins
red coral
my theory is that Than straightens his hair for the Edgy Look whereas Hypnos likes it curly 😄
copper adder
Hypnos is right, curly hair is based
copper adder
This post made by someone with curly hair
red coral
I mean yes but don't @ me like that!!
red coral
🤝
red coral
yesssss
(let's go #off-topic-discussion to discuss the Curly Mood)
copper adder
opaque nexus
@static wadi max your favorite aspect for each weapon
And all of them for your favorite weapon
static wadi
i do not have favorite
opaque nexus
Ok then maybe just level them evenly
opaque nexus
Ehh
floral sonnet
they're still better than the gun you started with
opaque nexus
Eris is fine at rank 4
5 is only a little better
4 is still a good weapon
But rank 5 is a great one
Eris with lightning is insane
You just melt everything
brisk trail
do you get enough blood from contracts to max everything or is brokering necessary a bit
regal holly
i just got the rail tho
pew pew
it is fun
i cant handle profanity filter its too hard
static wadi
@brisk trail u can take enough blood from runs
also u dont need to max ALL
only u like
brisk trail
yeah but i want to
brisk trail
static wadi
@regal holly oh yeah
add Zeus
add Supp Fire
add jolting
and some 2nd curse
and break faces
brisk trail
Infinite Chamber + Supp Fire + Zeus is my fav combo
static wadi
and do ur runs
brisk trail
I can just fall asleep on the X button
static wadi
also poison rail is strong
brisk trail
I think poison rail was my first win
regal holly
i have the chaos thing for the boss
barren rune
Hope you got a good special or cast. Or a damaging dash attack XD
static wadi
had curse for attack
static wadi
and last room was t&m
barren rune
All my shield runs are on Chaos, so it's doom all day err day
static wadi
all i had wot zeus dash and just some Q
static wadi
did u guys met any Bastion/transistor/pyre reference in game?
regal holly
i killed her with 4hp remaining
and my 2nd life gone
not being able to attack really makes a lot of adds be annoying
fleet monolith
@regal holly shotgun upgrade is absolutely crazy
keep in mind it rapid fires when you dash attack
and each bullet does its own damage
it multiples your dps by 5 at close range
if you can't get crit boosting, which you should definitely aim for, poison is a good alternative since you can apply it rapidly to many enemies
fleet monolith
despite what I said I'm blown away by just using shield's zeus special
it's stupidly powerful
fleet monolith
the third boss is pretty ez with the shotty
you'll probably die on your first time as did I
regal holly
ye i got to it with the shield but i messed it up
fleet monolith
but mega pro gamer points if you survive!
regal holly
and then i unlocked rail
and now i try again
if i dont die somehow in elysium
why was the bull of minos randomly in a room 
now ive got 18hp f
spice pilot
whats better a heroic divine strike or an epic deadly strike
brisk trail
Aspect?
odd bramble
Depends
radiant tangle
That depends on the weapon, and what you're building
For Shield, I'd say Divine Strike
For most of the others, honestly, I'd go with Artemis
brisk trail
Any hammers yet?
spice pilot
the thrust one
brisk trail
Divine Strike.
spice pilot
what does fated authority do?
fleet monolith
uh
you can reroll room rewards
like before you enter a chamber
but you only get one per rank
unless you also get the renovation which gives you more with certain pickups
spice pilot
ok thanks
sweet grove
Does anyone around know anything about moving save files
jade wigeon
did steam cloud not do it properly for you @sweet grove
sweet grove
Trying to move it to a diff pc that we haven't used it on
Just figured I could drag and drop
jade wigeon
just documents/saved games/hades and copy/move the whole folder didnt work?
might also have save files in steam/userdata/id/1145360 but dont think many do that/mostly linux
sweet grove
When I do that it just isn't seeing it
Gonna restart and clear out the folder and try agsin
forest crown
quick question, can yarn of ariadne be stacked?
lusty stump
I tried to stack yarn with the other item that assures the next encountered item will be in greater quality BUT by the look of it, it just uses yarn.
you can stack the amount of usage, but not how much the effect applies to the boon.
trail stag
Can you stack 3 or 4 to guarantee heroic or legendary?
empty ferry
legendary isnt a real rarity, and ive never seen a heroic offered that wasnt a swap, and i take ariadne's thread all the time
i havent stacked them much though
trail stag
I'm assuming there's some sort of weight given to boons based on rarity. Unless there's some other prerequisites for the higher rarities
I don't think there are for legendary
lusty stump
Legendary are definetly defined items based on their abilities
we have common, rare, epic. But then again, stacking 3 or 4 yarns sounds kind of tricky one to do, doesn't it?
forest crown
hmmm is it a chance to stack up 2 rarity levels? I had 2 stacks and only 1 was used
use up*
solid pivot
did anyone manage to get legendary chaos boon? seems like it's almost impoisible
fringe pulsar
I got hermes, I wish I would have picked movement speed, much more useful
hermes'*
still won, but I was slow as fck
static wadi
Hello there
empty ferry
General Kenobi! 😠
static wadi
sound of lightsabers turning on
dreamy sigil
spiral karma
Anyone at home and can tell me how many more days until next update the opening menu says are left?
ivory remnant
14
tardy apex
in the keepsakes screen: how do you unlock those things at the bottom?
fringe pulsar
Don't know, but keep lookin till you find how by yourself, you will feel better when you find it out
tardy apex
ok ty ty
cold whale
Finally made it to the final boss after 16 runs and still no sign of thanatos 🥺
please I want to meet him he seems very nice
indigo mango
keep it up! i only got him for the first time on my 24th run
candid pine
Shower Thoughts: We need LOKI in the game. Or some kind of stealth mechanic :^)
devout plinth
Athena’s boons can do more damage on backstab
muted lichen
I'm not sure what - if any - new weapons are planned but I would love me some dual-wielding daggers or shortswords. not necessarily like in the God of War-Kratos style but I wouldn't say no to a nod to that one either 😉
red coral
My vote... is for stick-on claw fingernail knives
hexed smelt
i'm stubborn and i want my goshdang magic
let me make zag into a magical boy! no i don't know how it would work but i need it!
red coral
Ok now I need a Zag transformation sequence
static wadi
I might wanna see some scyth based weapon
Q might transform weapon into less weapon
Dagger-close
allow to deal some damage to single target with fast aa
opaque nexus
Wait a scythe that transforms into a dagger?
static wadi
not actual dagger mb
muted lichen
a warhammer or greataxe is always an option for big weapons. a twohander might also go well
opaque nexus
That’s literally a Bloodborne weapon
oak spear
Flamethrower of some kind would be a great addition in my view but prob wouldn’t happen lol
red coral
A two handed hammer would be awesome
opaque nexus
A scythe that transforms into a smaller faster weapon
static wadi
muted lichen
also wouldn't mind something like a bo staff
red coral
A sickle
oak spear
I just miss the bastion flamethrower you guys
opaque nexus
How about a hammer but it has momentum when you swing so like when you swing the sheer weight of it pushes your forwards
And the dash attack is literally zag falling because of the weight
static wadi
also it may be close to kama
opaque nexus
But what would the hammer upgrades... for hammer be
red coral
Mace? Ball and Chain?
opaque nexus
I suppose the same moveset would work with a greataxe
Dual hand axes would be sick too
static wadi
allows to pullenemies to Zag or Zag to enemies
opaque nexus
Oh mace would be awesome
Flail
And the Q grapples to people and does damage
Like Achilles aspect
A scythe seems more likely for the big powerful weapon though
static wadi
but i think this weapon far from greek culture
and greek myths
so i just free my imagination)
opaque nexus
I mean there’s a machine gun
static wadi
yes but this weapon has no aanalogues in myths
and our variants are taken from other cultures
opaque nexus
Fair point
Nature is pretty significant in the myths though so a scythe or sickle type weapon wouldn’t be too out of place
lament tangle
there is only one other possible weapon
255 other zagreuses
to complete the phalanx
static wadi
looks like some Asian stuff
lament tangle
static wadi
just some stick?
narrow karma
if that's just a quarterstaff, I hate to imagine fighting with a full staff
lament tangle
how dare you discount a quarterstaff as just some stick
chilly stump
Spear is just pointy stick. 😄
narrow karma
shield is just short fat stick
static wadi
and shorter handle
devout plinth
Everything come back to pointy stick
chilly stump
Human just meat sticks really. 
devout plinth
GALAXY BRAIN
narrow karma
Human just meat sticks really.
swinging a body around is 6th weapon confirmed
devout plinth
final weapon is these hands
narrow karma
Hammer upgrade: Your Cast is a big punch that knocks foes back and Stuns them
safe crow
https://twitter.com/LordZesus/status/1214756556828368896?s=19
I am proud of this tweet
spice thunder
If I have twin shot bow and artemis support fire (fire a seeking arrow after attack, cast or special), do i get one seeking arrow or two after an attack?
because it looks like one to me and i'd argue i should get two
spiral tiger
I think it's one arrow @spice thunder
I'm just right now watching an NL video and he has that exact combination lol
spice thunder
i'm reading the boon description and it technically doesn't say 'after you hit with an attack'
but zeus chain lightning on attack does specify that so it's really good with twin shot. I thought artemis boon would follow suit.
safe crow
It's "on attack, if the attack hits" that shouls be the proper term
So the # of attacks are the key counter in # of support fire shot
So only 1 arrow
It is not
On-hit, or on-attack
It's on-attack if it hits
spiral tiger
Is it just me or is the Artemis boon that boosts critical damage really underwhelming?
safe crow
It's generally like what, 50% increase?
opaque nexus
Artemis is broken as is
spice thunder
I think +crit dmg would be good if you're doing fast-hitting crit build
spiral tiger
Common is 15% I think
So +200% to +215%
I do agree that Artemis is already pretty great
spice thunder
crit dmg boon is +15% to +37%
opaque nexus
The amount of things Artemis does better than all the others is crazy
spice thunder
extra cast ammo and duo with ares are really good, but I don't like her other boons otherwise
safe crow
The crits are actually insane
opaque nexus
Her attack and special are best or second best in the game
safe crow
Especially on specials
opaque nexus
Aphrodite is the only one who may have a better attack and special
Oh Arte’s cast is probably the all-around best
spice thunder
I rarely get excited for 'your x does more dmg'
opaque nexus
Why not
spice thunder
the vanilla of upgrades
opaque nexus
Do you main rail lol
spice thunder
i like chain lightning, i like poison, i even like weak
opaque nexus
Criticals aren’t just x more damage
spice thunder
heck, i like doom on attack more than crit
opaque nexus
The first 2 are really only good on rail
spice thunder
nah man i'm a shield fanboy
opaque nexus
Aphro is literally the highest damage percent bonus in the game
I personally love crits
spice thunder
i'm not saying it isn't, i'm saying I rarely get out of bed for 'your numbers are bigger' when I could have dots, aoe or utility
safe crow
Seems like you haven't two- shot a boss with full crit build yet then
fresh lava
brisk trail
"we expect to add Steam Achievements (as well as Trading Cards, etc.) by the time Early Access is complete." nothing concrete
leaden jolt
covert plover
If they do have achievements, I already expect ONE that's going to [REDACTED] me off.
every game has those
it's probably gonna be "speak to Hades 1000 times"
burnt pond
Would you be less angry if it was "pet Cerberus 1000 times"
covert plover
Not really. I can do 10 pets before every run and maybe get that within a week, assuming they don't limit pets by 2
sweet badge
... Yes.
covert plover
A fair achievement: obtain three boons from Chaos within a Pact of Punishment.
brisk trail
Only time Erebus doesn't take a chamber is right before a boss.
The three exits will lead to a shop and two other options, even if you're taking it instead of the shop.
proven cape
||Thanatos is gay||
safe crow
Yes
daring cape
hey there, is there a difference if i buy the steam or epic games?
safe crow
Maybe the music? Though I am not sure
livid cargo
No difference
plucky shoal
im waiting for a gog version before i gif money
wooden flame
Only what the launcher itself offers
midnight salmon
theseus block is so stupid
plucky shoal
ive only beaten thesus one time in 29 runs
the time i did he was super easy
its the minotaur that gives me grief i have had a hard time learning the fight he beats me easily as a miniboss too
copper adder
I usually wail on Asterius and get him out of the way early so I can focus on Theseus
brittle hamlet
tends to be the best way, since otherwise you're trying to finish him while dodging theseus' calls (not recommended)
oak spear
Yeah ignore Theseus entirely other than dodging/deflecting spear throws until Asterius is down, get the timing down for his combos and just try to keep being behind him. When he charges, try to get him to run into a pillar/vase thing/whatever in the ring then wail when he is still
When in doubt, dash a bunch and/or deflect/invuln when you can
midnight salmon
if youre having a hard time i'd recommend getting athena dash and spamming dash attacks with the shield
its pretty monkey tier brainless but it works
oak spear
For sure lol
And then just treat Theseus like one of the shield dudes in Elysium but with zag’s spear throw and random super calls
Save as much god meter for him as you can if you feel uncomfy with him vs Minotaur
covert plover
I've weirdly been killing Theseus a lot first even though the game constantly telling me "BLOCKED" and "CLING"
and then Aphrodite comes in with her ring of despair. Not gonna catch me slippin
brisk trail
Hey guys, I have a dedicated AMD RX 580 GPU, and in some situations and areas (like Elysium, with no enemies) I notice some FPS slowdowns
in other games my graphic card runs perfectly, but the game visually is not THAT harsh on the GPU
is this happening to you too?
livid cargo
@brisk trail ive heard reports of slowdown on all sorts of graphics cards; i think they arent done with optimization and wont be till full launch
brisk trail
Ohhh I see thankss
livid cargo
But i think it would be good anyway to submit a bug report with f10 while in game
That way supergiant can get more data
opaque nexus
What is your preferred way of getting every heat condition done
Do I just do 1 heat runs for each
Only thing that would be hard with that is probably budget cuts
And maybe tight deadline lv1
But probably not
vocal thorn
Do as many as you can handle at once. I comboed all of them to 2s or 3s, except for tight deadline, because it's overtuned on the 3rd zone way too much.
opaque nexus
Probably gonna do them in groups of 3 so it doesn’t take forever
And do budget cuts on its own just for safety
coarse junco
Budget cuts isn’t that bad.
As long as you play smart and ensure the bare necessities is done you should be good.
opaque nexus
Yeah but probably the hardest level 1 thing
coarse junco
I’d argue tight deadline is harder.
opaque nexus
9 minutes ain’t that bad
None of my runs have reached the amount of time for that to be lethal
ocean kayak
hello~
i'm back after several hours of playing the ps4 control scheme
i do have some feedback, though i'm a little hesitant. the pinned says that i don't need to propose solutions...should i just throw them out there here, maybe? or will that get me kicked?
oak knot
Don't worry just post it in feedback
spice sluice
Man, I wish the codex held like a library of all the different boons and upgrades, would be nice to have that resource in the game.
minor pecan
I'm doing my best 
ocean kayak
what do you guys usually discuss here?
minor pecan
Hades things in general that aren't spoilery
ocean kayak
someone made a joke about the final weapon being these hands
one may jest but I did notice an empty slot on the weapon rack
torpid vessel
final weapon: Brass Knuckles
ocean kayak
the caestus was a common weapon in ancient greece but if a god or hero used a named example it escapes me
minor pecan
Final weapon: passive aggressive post-it notes
ocean kayak
of couse, i don't think any of them went around using a railgun, so maybe that restriction is kind of arbitrary
if zaggy goes around knocking heads with his fists though I will die of how cool (and hot) it is
heavy pendant
crap i think i just skipped some unique dialogue is there anyway for me to view it without starting a new file?
dusky meteor
none yet
people have been bringing up replaying of convos in feedback too so hopefully they do a thing for it
heavy pendant
I'm p sure Artemis made a comment about the Aphrodite poster I just bought but I wasnt paying attention and skipped it :-;
late saddle
I'm still blown away by how much stuff the game acknowledges with voiced lines
radiant tangle
How do you mean?
heavy pendant
im not sure I didnt see it but it was 4 lines of text and I am mad i skipped it
late saddle
like, just the way that the game not only keeps track of all kinds of things but gives you characters acknowledging them
it makes the game feel so much more alive than I'm used to, especially for a roguelite
dusky meteor
Saaaame super love all the dialogues in the game
even like, just the offhanded comments from other characters. or Zag's observations
heavy pendant
going to have to go get a new file and get that poster again unless someone can confirm it for me
-_-
late saddle
yeah exactly. I've put over forty hours in this game and I still occasionally see new lines
and it's still early access
foggy imp
Final weapon: Tank
late saddle
I'm so close to maxing out my first person, I'm excited
foggy imp
I’m so close to maxing someone rn lmao
dusky meteor
👏 
late saddle
I've hit the point of not being able to gift various people around the House but mostly ones who don't have an ending yet
obviously I gave my first gifts to the best boy
I really love the way that you get to know the characters more as you give them gifts and talk with them between runs. I've been really surprised a few times
dusky meteor
a kindred soul
opaque nexus
@ocean kayak chaos is better than most gods lol
foggy imp
uhh idk bout that one
there are tons of boons that in the long run will do you more than something from chaos if chaos doesnt give you something good
ocean kayak
currently en route to trying to date Death Himself
ocean kayak
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foggy imp
put it on both ends
late saddle
One on each side I think
late saddle
ah
foggy imp
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