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void nova
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i don't even remember anyone else's names wow

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ha...rek?

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rofl

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dang

dire cedar
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okey

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Trail room

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2 legendary boons

drifting meteor
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Mae

void nova
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oh yeah

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the name of th person who doesn't have a name

drifting meteor
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Hedwyn

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Ruki

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Sir Gilman

void nova
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there it is!

drifting meteor
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Pamitha

void nova
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ti'zo

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i got one

drifting meteor
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sadalwood?

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i think thats his name

void nova
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hmm

drifting meteor
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then the bog crone

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oh, and sandra

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sandra is best girl don't @ me

void nova
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@drifting meteor i agree

main plume
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Man
Real talk

signal spoke
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Any more pyre talk will be best directed to #pyre please!

main plume
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If you don't have a Jodariel gf, why even live

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oh frick

void nova
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aah!

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points

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you did the thing!

main plume
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oh come on, i was typing

void nova
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lol

main plume
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it doesnt count

teal terrace
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ooooh, you guys got in twubble

void nova
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fair enough in my book

soft vault
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every time i run into eurydice singing in my run i get consistent chills, and if that isn't a testament to the talents of ashley barrett and darren korb idk what is lyre

teal terrace
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idk about those boss suggestions (swapping out bosses) i feel those bosses have a purpose and not just there to be there, they're chosen because canonically, they were actually there

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they aren't just generic guys

drifting meteor
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the issue with the theseus and minotaur fight is that they have patterns that are really easy to learn so fighting them gets samey after a while.
i dont think changing the patterns would fix the problem because theseus is designed to compliment asterius' patterns so drastic changes on that front would run counter to the boss.
so the obvious solution would be to add thematically appropriate heroes to the arena fight which i think was the goal at one point, but was cut when scope inevitably got reduced when they realized the limitations of their budget and team.

static wadi
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Good Night people

brisk trail
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i'm getting kind of sick of the theseus fight

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dash/poke/dash isn't doing it for me

void nova
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Yeah I mean I understand if that kind of boss fight diversity just can't be added because of resource constraints, doesn't hurt to ask tho

drifting meteor
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well its one of those things that they obviously know about and has been on their radar. its just an issue of there are higher priority features that they'd like to work on.

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i think the jargon is "priority c feature"

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i'd hope that they continue development past the 1.0 launch to add these non-essential features, but if it's not something they think is financially viable or creatively fulfilling, it'd probably be better for them to move on to a different project.

void nova
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yeahhhhh

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fair enough lol

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my appetite for more hades is just insatiable probably

static wadi
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any success?

brisk trail
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on what front?

static wadi
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any)

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i feel kinda upset

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so i just want to talk with anybody

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about anyhing

void nova
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👋

brisk trail
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i'm pretty empty but dm me if you wanna chat about sth or other

static wadi
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dm?

void nova
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direct message (That's what that stands for right?? lol)

brisk trail
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yep

void nova
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used to be pm back in my day

static wadi
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+1

brisk trail
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same

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but you gotta get with the times

void nova
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you can dm me too if you want, i'm just at work being hella distractible

static wadi
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dm is Dungeon Master first i remeber

void nova
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oh i'm with the times

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these times are lit fam

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these times slap

brisk trail
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please stop talking

void nova
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😎

static wadi
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i cant talk good enough cus my english is rly weak

void nova
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and i heard of gm (game master) before i heard of dm (dungeon master)

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dm is alway sjust tryna come take over the other acronyms

static wadi
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like?

void vigil
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hey guys, please move this conversation to #off-topic-discussion! this is a channel to talk about the game shadesmile

brisk trail
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@ivory walrus I think you meant Aphrodite's Call.

ivory walrus
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yes yes

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my bad thanks for catching that

static wadi
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sry

void nova
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how about that hades tho

brisk trail
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fine game overall

void nova
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this game slaps

brisk trail
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it do

teal terrace
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they don't think it be like it is, but it do.

void nova
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it sure do

void nova
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well.... i mean, i love it

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and recommend it

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you know.. maybe deep down you DO want to buy it, coming to the hades discord for recommendations on whether or not to buy hades seems like a pretty weighted outcome probability

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follow your heart friend

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i think it would be awesome if they added a couch co-op option

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but idk

brisk trail
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think they said there wouldn't be multiplayer

void nova
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what do you mean?

brisk trail
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52 hours in, beat the game 17 times and there is still a lot to do

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like, a lot

void nova
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yep and there should be even more to come!

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i mean, there definitely is more to come

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yay!!

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let us know how you feel

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😄

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i mean, if it's in your budget then couldn't hurt

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tbh i have not bought the soundtrack, but who knows, i might someday

brisk trail
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listen to it first

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just a thought

void nova
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good point

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it's also on spotify i believe

void vigil
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if you play the game, you listen to it all the time, technically shadesmile

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well thats unless you play with your own music

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i know some people do after a while

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but yes, it is on spotify and youtube, and probably other places too

void nova
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SGG music is always on point, tho to be fair i don't notice it as much in hades as i did in transistor and bastion

void vigil
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i love the music sooo much

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it, as you said, slaps

void nova
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it is good, and i have grown even more fond of it as i've played and heard it more

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it's just got a different style, like all the SG games' music does

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the transistor soundtrack blew my mind when i first discovered that game tho. i guess it's just a matter of personal taste

drowsy fable
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I bought bastion's soundtrack immediately after playing, and basically have it memorized

void nova
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welcome 😄

drowsy fable
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the gameplay is fantastic, but the real reason that I insta-buy supergiant is darren korb and ashley barrett

void nova
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valid

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gameplay is reason #1 for me

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but honestly it's really hard to tell how much of the appeal is because of what ... like, the whole aesthetic of supergiant games is always on point. the music, the art, even the "narrative" which is usually less an actual story and moreso just ...what i can best describe as "narrative aesthetic" lol

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things that sound cool/meaningful

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also dat voice acting

drowsy fable
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yeah. I won't lie, I was pretty disappointed to read that Logan was leaving before pyre because he was like 95% of what I loved about bastion and transistor

void nova
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uh?

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hhe didn't leave...

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he does voices in pyre and hades as well

drowsy fable
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oh, really?

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I guess since he wasn't full-time narrator starting in pyre I just assumed

tepid yacht
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nope, he’s still voicing stuff in hades!

void nova
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yep i believe he does the snarky Rites announcer guy in pyre, and the narrator in hades. and i think other stuff too?

tepid yacht
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yep!

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logan also plays hades

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and some other characters

void nova
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d.....ohh

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i thought you meant like

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plays hades like...plays the game

tepid yacht
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OH FHDKFHDKFH

void nova
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and i was like doesn't everybody lol

tepid yacht
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MY BAD

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he voices him fhdkfhdjfh

void nova
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😅

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haha it's all good

tepid yacht
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sorry i’m too entrenched in theater culture for my own good haha

void nova
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lol valid af

flat vapor
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you think logan plays the game using hades's voice and pretends to fight himself

drowsy fable
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I'd pay a lot to see that Let's Play

void nova
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he plays hades while he's playing hades

tepid yacht
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he reads the patch notes in his narrator voice sometimes!!

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not for every patch, but some of them

uncut thorn
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logan being in pyre was the biggest plot twist for me

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he sounds so different

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the man has range

thick remnant
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hmmmmmmm

static wadi
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what will happen if you are under invincibility effect(athena call for example)

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and you use some move which will hurt you by the chaos cursre

rotund granite
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I don’t know who had the idea to blend Classical Greek art with contemporary Japanese-influenced design, but whoever it was, bless you!

tranquil prairie
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funfact i just found out you can be telafraged by the pots in the final boss fight

modern sand
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Hi! New here. Just wanted to figure out how to report a bug with a prophecy

static wadi
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f10

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what bug?

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@tranquil prairie what does "telafraged" means?

tranquil prairie
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hit by a something as it spawns/ teleports

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which if you just so happen to be where it one of the pots in the 2nd phase spawns it hits you

static wadi
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u mean if u stand on a place where pot should spawn

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it will immediatly activates?

modern sand
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I have all the keepsakes, but 5 of them aren'

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t counted by the prophecy

static wadi
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what prohecy?

tranquil prairie
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yeah that's what i mean

static wadi
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@tranquil prairie intrestin

modern sand
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Close At Heart

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Oh I'm dumb

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It says equip

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Those are the ones I've never used

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Nevermind :/

static wadi
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)

static wadi
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hm

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i dont understand

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when i get hit some kinda numbers with lightning appears near

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oh i got it

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it must be achiles trinket

brisk trail
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Heaven's Vengeance, Zeus Revenge boon.

static wadi
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nah

brisk trail
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Oh, wait, the icon thing.

static wadi
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i dont have it

brisk trail
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Yeah, that is Achilles.

static wadi
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use it for 1st time for achievment

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is it possible to have 2 duo boons?

brisk trail
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Yup.

static wadi
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and how many god's boon u can have

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it looks like 4 is limit

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different gods i mean

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besides Chaos and hermes

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Hades: I want Orpheus sing
Also Hades: There is no way i will return Euridice to Orpheus. It's too problematic

leaden charm
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doom on special + athena dash + ares/athena dual boon is hilarious

static wadi
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athena dash is OP just as it is

robust jungle
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What are the locked slots at the bottom of the keepsakes menu and how do you unlock them?

static wadi
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||it's companions||@robust jungle

robust jungle
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Oh

static wadi
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||There are some characters in game that may give you it||

robust jungle
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|| Ah, do I just have to keep giving those orange flasks to certain people then? ||

static wadi
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4 as i remeber - Meg Skelly Sizifus and Tomatos

robust jungle
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Nice, thank you

static wadi
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@robust jungle ||1st u need to give them nextar to have better reletion||

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||and after you can give ambrosia if u will make some condition||

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buuut i cant say exactly

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cus i didnt do it yet)))

robust jungle
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Mkay, thank you again

static wadi
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what max lvl for mirror's boon rarity skill?

ivory remnant
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||rare|| or ||epic|| skill? For the former, it's ||50%||, while for the latter it's ||25%||

static wadi
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1st one

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thx for help, good sir

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2nd is already full)

severe otter
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how does heroic rarity work? does it only show up for replaced boons?

flat vapor
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only exchanged epic boons or if you upgrade epic boons at eurydice

severe otter
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okay, thanks!

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i've been playing so much hades since i got it. had an 8game streak going

static wadi
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what heat?

severe otter
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around 2/3 from farming bounties. but i was rotating weapons the whole time. I'm so much worse with the sword

static wadi
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i'm not good with english

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are you good or not with it?

severe otter
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not good with sword

static wadi
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same as me

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hardest weapon(

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one i didnt do it yet

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u cant just spam it like shield or rail

robust jungle
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The sword definitely is a bit tricky to use effectively without taking damage

severe otter
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the biggest trick i learned, is you can start doing the Special

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and then dash, to hit people without waiting

robust jungle
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Oh interesting

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Good tip

static wadi
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same with spin attack on spear

severe otter
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there's a lot of animation canceling in the game. you can use the rail gun's special while you reload too

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railgun is probably my favorite, with the spear behing

static wadi
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u charge spin and dash after u charged it to deal damage in area u need

severe otter
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the return being so good in zone three

static wadi
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shield is OP

robust jungle
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I really like the railgun with the daedalus boon that allows you to use your special three times in a row

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You can push out so much damage with that

static wadi
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btw

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can u use this and specialrocket?

severe otter
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yeah

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you can fire three rockets

static wadi
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sounds funny

robust jungle
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Are the rockets a good boon by the way?

static wadi
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idk

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i played rail with auto poison

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but it must be like Hera aspect with dio cast

severe otter
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the one time i took them they were really good, the damage i nice, but not having to stop and aim made it really good

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i was going the sniper aspect, so i'd snipe, reload, and then rocket while reloading

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for good damage

static wadi
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it's kinda dumb and easy

leaden charm
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first spear win. thanks level 10 curse of pain

static wadi
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my 1st and only win was with Hades aspect and lot of poison

leaden charm
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i also had the boons that stack doomed damage with more hits and the one that does bonus doomed damage with higher delay. one doomed without any stacks was doing 450 damage

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can't wait to max out the bow's second form for crazy special shenanigans

static wadi
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Hera is better imo

leaden charm
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i'm not clear how that one works

static wadi
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yeasy

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u attack

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and ur cast is working after attack

warm burrow
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Real quick, how do I report a bug to the devs?

flat vapor
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f10 ingame

warm burrow
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Awesome, thanks!

shut plover
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Think I found a useless bug

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lol

brisk trail
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Is the Aphrodite boom that makes your cast a come any good?

static wadi
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in sone melee - why not

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as i remeber

flat vapor
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it's basically a shotgun

static wadi
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aphro has the biggest scales

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so he cast the strongest

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well dio more dmg but he does no stuck

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and ares mb but it's hard to make full dmg and also his does not stuck

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also it may be used for some duo

lament hare
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Aphrodite's Cast is my favorite combo with Artemis, getting the big crits

deep spade
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aphrodite cast has the most base damage of any cast aside from festive fog, IIRC
and it's AoE, fires quickly, and embeds the cast gem so you get boiling blood

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it's very good

viscid flicker
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on the other hand, the short range and kinda small aoe area can be kinda problematic sometimes, like when enemies in elysium or asphodel park themselves over the middle of impassable terrain

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and it sometimes randomly misses (i think because it's a few lines instead of a full cone?)

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but i do think it's usually good anyway

tranquil prairie
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so you can talk to and give nector to bouldy

lament hare
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I just learned that

wicked wind
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anyone had an issue with cast stones just straight up disappearing when using hera?

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using dionysius cast

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sometimes the arrow just disappears and im stuck continuing the fight without any casts

shadow rain
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Hi! I bought Hades a couple days ago. It's wonderful so far!! Does anyone know how to unlock the weapon after the railgun?

wind rover
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there's none yet

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rail's the final weapon so far

shadow rain
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Oh cool! Haha, no wonder I couldn't find one.

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Do we know what it's going to be?

wind rover
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idk really

lament hare
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there's another major update in a month

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so it could come then

simple socket
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@tranquil prairie as in, sisyphus' boulder? That's neat

tranquil prairie
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Yeah I found out completely on accident when I was trying to give a gift to sisyphus

candid trout
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So, does anyone else find chariots to be a bit busted? Mostly just the fact that they track incredibly hard, and hit multiple times per charge. I just lost a run because of 2 or 3 simultaneous armoured chariots spawning. They ate through two of my death defiance’s in just a few moments. I think I avoided this in the past by taking the broken spear tip trinket, so I’m wondering if anyone else has had similar experiences

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I think giving them a more easily avoided attack pattern would help make them a bit more in line with the rest of elysium’s enemies. Or at least making them stop attacking after they hit you like Asterius does.

untold cave
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🍔

brisk trail
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best variant of aegis?

marsh jackal
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What’s the easiest way to get titans blood?

faint fox
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doing multiple runs with increasing pacts of penalty for each weapon i suppose

main plume
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Or doing poseidon runs and hoarding gold till the last level

faint fox
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since you get a titans blood for beating the first and final boss under each level of heat that you chose

brisk trail
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Why does using the bow feel so bad?

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Like it just doesn’t feel right

simple socket
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Different for everyone, I guess

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I hate using shield

lament hare
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I love the bow

dire cedar
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Bow feels good with Hera

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or nice Hammers

latent folio
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how many shots when max gauge ?

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10 or 10+5=15?

remote lily
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10

latent folio
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thanks

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then it's expection is lower than I thought

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for Epic, 120* 10* 1.7= 2040

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lower than Arpho's call

remote lily
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1.7?

latent folio
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Critical chance is 35%

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and critical damage is +200%

remote lily
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got it

dire cedar
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yeah but Artemis is better vs multiple enemies

remote lily
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but you can as well get more crits + this ^

latent folio
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120* 10* [1.0+(35%*200%)]

dire cedar
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and you can get more dmg from crits

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if you have Artemis Aphro Duo Boon

latent folio
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I know, so I calculated the expection for Artemis

dire cedar
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Artemis is better

lament hare
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I've never seen Aphrodite Call work

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It seems not good

dire cedar
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i don't like it

latent folio
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that's true, because Aphro's shot when Max gauge got blocked so easily

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I rarely took it

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but some people like its' Charm CC

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but the damage of Aphro when max (2500damage) is not low

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even it's common rarity

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it's still 2500 damage

dire cedar
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but it's good only vs single opponents

remote lily
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which doesnt scale, you can get more damage than 120 from arthemis

latent folio
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yes

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I agree on that

remote lily
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Aphro only scale time of charm

latent folio
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if I am on region 2 or even 3, and still don't have call

remote lily
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its depends all of how you use it

latent folio
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it's better to take it than waiting for other god

remote lily
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if you dont want to wait for call then best are Athena/ poseidon

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both make you immune

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its value

latent folio
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agree

dire cedar
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yeah

latent folio
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what do you think about Are's call?

simple socket
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How about Ares

dire cedar
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and Poseidon is rly good vs Hydra

latent folio
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it's my favorite before, but now I am not sure

remote lily
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Ares is great too

dire cedar
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Ares is good if you have blade rift build

remote lily
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its scale so great with pooms

dire cedar
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amazing i could said

remote lily
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from 16 to 24 to 32 and then slow down

latent folio
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how about Zeus' call? it seems dealing a lot of damage, but I don't know how to calculate it

remote lily
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its also time based I believe

dire cedar
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it's bad

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just bad

remote lily
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so its also worth to have full

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build

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then all thunders release bolt and can hit twice

dire cedar
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it works only when you have many Zeus boons and play with shield

remote lily
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but it used to be op haha

dire cedar
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yeah

remote lily
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remember when it was doing 240 dmg per thunder

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just melted down whole bosses

latent folio
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another question about Zeus

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this on Chiron Aspect

remote lily
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only once

latent folio
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Do I get multiple lightning bolt?

remote lily
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it shots once per special

latent folio
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so it sucks?

remote lily
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not per arrow

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yes

latent folio
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haha

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ok, it's really bad

deep spade
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zeus lightning hits once per enemy per use of attack or special

remote lily
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best for chiron is dio, ares or arthemis

latent folio
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is Ares good on chiron special ?

remote lily
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yeach

deep spade
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if you get the doom stack boon, it's alright

remote lily
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doom effect with full Ares build explode for over 900

latent folio
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got it, I need to get doom stack boon

remote lily
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then you can do it super fast with Athena duo

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just Attack and special rotation haha

latent folio
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yeah, Merciful End is really OP

limpid bough
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do you guys think poseidon's boons are underwheming

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like for example in the long term against bosses

latent folio
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bad for bosses, good for mobs

dire cedar
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in normal chambers his boons are really good

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sometimes you have to just use cast

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and everything dies in Styx

latent folio
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and some of his boons are for getting more resources, 2 duo are for better boon or poms

limpid bough
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mobs i can see

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but during bosses it feels... well useless

latent folio
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I feel his dash or call is fine

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Athena's dash is the best

dire cedar
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if you have Duo Boon with Zeus

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it's sill good on bosses

limpid bough
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athenas is a good send

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i always love to run that on any build i have

latent folio
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yes, that's the problem of Poseidon

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you have to pick Zeus for useful duo

dire cedar
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Aphro duo is useful to

limpid bough
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if i were to go choose poseidon, id be only getting his for loot

dire cedar
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if you pick it on 2nd or 3rd biom

latent folio
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it's good, but sometimes you get that too late

simple socket
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Question, will I keep getting extra attack from Thanatos' keepsake if I change it out?

latent folio
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I think Sweet Nectar or Exclusive Access should increase LV or rarity instantly like Eurydice

dire cedar
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@simple socket nope

simple socket
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Guess I'd better keep it on for the whole run

brisk trail
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@latent folio that'd be busted, buff all your boons to epic instantly? what

latent folio
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Just buff 2 or 3

twin idol
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Heya, anyone sure about how to get thanatos to spawn? I'm nearly 13 hours in and still haven't met him

deep spade
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thanatos seems most likely to spawn when you've taken damage recently

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and only after the 13th-ish run

twin idol
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well maybe I'm just unlucky af, like 26th run done, I'll keep trying

wind rover
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is it just me or does shotgun rail feel like an entirely different weapon altogether

twin idol
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I think it is supposed to feel as such

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I never use it tho

deep spade
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it basically is

twin idol
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If you're trying to take the shotgun rail, I'd use the second aspect to boost my damage as much as possible

brisk trail
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What’s that

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The boon?

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hammer upgrade

deep spade
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basically turns the Rail into a melee weapon with 50 base damage

brisk trail
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and full poison stacks on every attack

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With the upgrade that makes the bullets explode, it feels terrible because the entire screen has so many effects

wind rover
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how high does the 2nd and 3rd to last mirror upgrades go to

rotund granite
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I don’t know if any of the devs are listening, but I was curious to know how you guys settled on the premise for the game, and the Greek myth setting as well.

wind rover
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i think someone's already asked a similair question in the hades public qna previously

rotund granite
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Now don’t I feel sheepish

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Still, I imagine many a book of Greek myth was plundered

wind rover
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down over by #ask-supergiant they usually have a session for questions
but ye

rotund granite
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Also, and I’m sure someone posted this, it’s a bit of lore about Zagreus in classical myth

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ZAGREUS, "the first-born Dionysos," was a god of the Orphic Mysteries. He was a son of Zeus and Persephone who had been seduced by the god in the guise of a serpent. Zeus placed Zagreus upon the throne of heaven and armed him with his lightning bolts. The Titanes, incited by the jealous goddess Hera, sneaked into Olympos and offered the boy a collection of toys, tricking him into setting aside the lightning. They then seized and dismembered him with their knives. Zeus recovered Zagreus' heart and made it into a potion for Semele to inbibe who then conceived and gave birth to the second Dionysos as a reincarnation of the first.

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I should note that his role in myth is obscure

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And some people suggest he was a child of Hades or even identical with Hades

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Aeschylus, Fragment 124 Sisyphus (from Etymologicum Gudianum 227. 40) (trans. Weir Smyth) (Greek tragedy C5th B.C.) :
"Now [I came] to bid farewell to Zagreus and to his sire, the Hospitaler."
[N.B. In this fragment Sisyphos describes his departure from the Underworld. Haides is the "Hospitaler of the Dead" and as husband of Persephone is the "father" of chthonic Zagreus.]

brisk trail
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@wind rover 50% and 25%

thick remnant
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why am i doing a run without any death defiances?

brisk trail
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great question

wind rover
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most intriguing

thick remnant
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cuz im an idiot

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i wanted to try and see how far i can get without death defiance

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so here i am...

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in elysium now

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not bad

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i guess

wind rover
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nice

brisk trail
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i'll try no darkness this afternoon

wind rover
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dear gods

brisk trail
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taking bets on how early i die

wind rover
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6 runs in a row and ive yet to get the extra darkness boon on the bow

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cmon, man

proud orbit
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I can see it not being too bad at 0 heat if you take an aspect too

brisk trail
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it's 50hp no regen no dd, still tough at 0 heat i'd wager

wind rover
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@brisk trail asphodel

proud orbit
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i believe in you

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elysium at least

brisk trail
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thank

thick remnant
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i should probably get a lot of health if im not getting any defiance

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oof should've thought about that

wind rover
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how much health could one theoretically get in a run

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500?

thick remnant
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probably yeah

brisk trail
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probably

wind rover
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with cerby's keepsake

brisk trail
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with life affirmation and vintage nectar

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reroll for nectars/centaur hearts at every opportunity

thick remnant
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ok i have a really good build rn

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going into theseus fight

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with 230 hp

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6 artemis casts sooooo theseus' shield is useless too

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ok i actually won

final prairie
#

13th run got to Hades but didn't quite manage to beat his second form 😦

brisk trail
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you'll get there dw

thick remnant
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i remember beating his first phase thinking i won and then....

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he gets back up

brisk trail
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the omnilaser and the pots can be scary

thick remnant
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and im like.... ah frick

final prairie
#

anyone else get a fair few random freezes? and yeah, I still had both my death defy after the first form and was like..... this feels too easy xD

brisk trail
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fully expected him to have a second phase tbh

thick remnant
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that laser will surely mess me up.... that is i get past styx without death defiances

brisk trail
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use the spearpoint

final prairie
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I'm still on sword

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I tried bow but i prefer sword

brisk trail
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renders the laser completely useless

thick remnant
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too late xD

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im already in styx

brisk trail
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it's a keepsake, not the spear weapon

thick remnant
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ye ik what u mean

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but yeah... too late

final prairie
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oh, yeah I don't have many of those xD

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is there a reward for gifting someone lots of times?

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like an upgraded keepsake or anything?

brisk trail
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for four specific character yeah

final prairie
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ah.... I might stop giving chaos all my necatar and get some more keepsakes... xD

brisk trail
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gets you an alt keepsake with a different effect that you can equip on top of regular keepsakes

thick remnant
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wait will hades target skelly's comp with the laser if i deploy it?

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since technically skelly is a 2nd target

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or thats what his comp says xD

brisk trail
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skelly normally draws all aggro so i'd assume so yeah

thick remnant
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hopefully

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i got upgraded skelly

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so that'd be very useful if he uses his laser

brisk trail
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don't know if you can use companions against hades tho

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i don't think you can

thick remnant
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oh cmon xd

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well... we shall see i guess

final prairie
#

is there a way to not get persiphone as the fury i fight? xD

thick remnant
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Tisiphone u mean?

final prairie
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that one xD

thick remnant
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Persiphone is Zag's mum

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dont think so

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its just random

final prairie
#

just got Meg, first time in AAAAAAAAAGES

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so thaknful xD

thick remnant
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The furies are not that difficult to deal with tho

brisk trail
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you get any of the three at random

final prairie
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tisiphone is the only one that hits me

brisk trail
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she can be annoying if you can't outdamage her yeah

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haven't had a triple fury fight with tisi as the lead yet, wonder how that goes

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alecto's sawblade in a small room is a scary prospect

final prairie
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oh gosh..... I've only had normal of each, no triples or modifiers

brisk trail
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you unlock that option after beating the game

final prairie
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ah ok xD

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soon 😛

brisk trail
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i believe in you

static wadi
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Good Evening people

thick remnant
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ok

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going into hades

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225 hp

final prairie
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gl

brisk trail
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you'll need it

thick remnant
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i did take skelly's tooth like a little scaredy cat

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so its technically no death defiances run

static wadi
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@thick remnant next time take patrocles

thick remnant
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but no? xD

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well idk i just panicked

brisk trail
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hi gz

static wadi
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hello good sir

thick remnant
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aphro coming in clutch

static wadi
#

what weapon

thick remnant
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chiron bow

final prairie
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😮

static wadi
#

well

brisk trail
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very nice

static wadi
#

legendary may help anyway

brisk trail
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do you have aphro on special?

thick remnant
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I need a pep talk xD

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no dionysus

brisk trail
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dang

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that'd have probably proc'd on every special otherwise

thick remnant
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yeah well...

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crap xD

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ima just hope my attacks charm him

brisk trail
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praise rngsus and all will be good

static wadi
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amen

thick remnant
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🙏

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ok ima go try and do this xd

static wadi
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damn i'm sick(

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played all night without socks with opened window

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good thing - i finally beat it with swprd

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i rly dont love sword

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got 10 blood

final prairie
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sword rocks!

static wadi
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and spend it all in poseidon -_-

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i'm dumb

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and tomorrow i need to go at work

brisk trail
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rip

static wadi
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kill me pls

thick remnant
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OK

static wadi
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whatever

thick remnant
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one phase down

static wadi
#

wpwp

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keep it that way

thick remnant
#

151 hp

static wadi
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show him who is the boss

brisk trail
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just don't die 4Head

static wadi
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what is 4head

brisk trail
#

twitch emote

static wadi
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ah

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well i dont understand them anyway

thick remnant
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YES

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I did it

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didnt even use skelly's tooth

deep spade
#

what happens if you use skelly's tooth and all your death defiances then take skelly's tooth off?

wind rover
#

oh wow, first time ive died to hydra in a while
guess the smaller arena really caught me

static wadi
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i guess u will have no

thick remnant
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0 death defiance run poggies

wind rover
#

you'll just have no deathdefys

final prairie
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nice

brisk trail
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grats!

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what were your 2 heat restrictions?

thick remnant
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extreme measures

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and jury smth one

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that spawns 20% more enemies

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i can deal with all the heat stuff but the time one

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for now at least

brisk trail
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i mean

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27mns fits within the first time restriction

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by a long shot

thick remnant
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this run was 35 mins

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my best was 27 with some spear build

brisk trail
#

ye

thick remnant
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idk just knowing that im timed makes me all anxious and stuff

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cant deal with that

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its like tests...

wind rover
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oof, triple nade or explosive rounds

brisk trail
#

triple

thick remnant
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all the way

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triple

brisk trail
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hope for the slow bomb hammer later

thick remnant
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triple is a free win

wind rover
#

fair

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im already at elysium

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picked up infinity chamber earlier

thick remnant
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Ok so aside from aspects and trade, blood has no other use yeah?

brisk trail
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what's your attack boon?

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@thick remnant yes

wind rover
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athena with the deflect

thick remnant
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ok ima just spend the blood i have then to level some aspects

wind rover
#

and my dash is also athena

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so basically i deflect everything

thick remnant
#

oooooo i wanna do a rail run with poseidon's attack

deep spade
#

explosive fire deflect with infinity chamber sounds really nice

brisk trail
#

explosive could be great if your special boon isn't worth much

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don't think the explosion deflects fwiw

wind rover
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my special is ares, juicy

thick remnant
#

a zeus poseidon run with rail feels like it can be really good

deep spade
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triple bomb does nothing for doom

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go explosive fire

brisk trail
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doesn't get better with triple bomb tho

wind rover
#

also i always feel like poseidon with ranged weps is kinda counterintuitive
cause you keep knocking them farther away from your range

brisk trail
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doesn't matter on bosses at least

wind rover
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yuh, but on normal encounters

brisk trail
#

but yeah poseidon is pretty bad on rail and bow

wind rover
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unless you're at the final chambers which is really smol and tight-cornered

brisk trail
#

can help get your distant memory to proc ig???

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but that's about it

static wadi
#

ig?

wind rover
#

i guess

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instagram

brisk trail
#

inflatable gorilla

thick remnant
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:L

deep spade
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triple bomb is the only good choice

thick remnant
#

meh im going for on hit so infinity chamber wouldnt be bbad

deep spade
#

just don't put Poseidon on your special

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you can reload while dashing or firing your special, and it's very unlikely that you'll get more than 12 shots off before you're forced to move by something

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so I don't think infinity chamber is very good in general, even for on-hit builds

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and I really prefer the indirect fire and aiming of the default special to the rocket

thick remnant
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ima just restart the run

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boons are awful

tranquil tulip
#

Lmao

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good luck

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RNG

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stays the same

thick remnant
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yeah i know

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but i'll make better decisions

ivory remnant
#

i actually find infinity chamber very very good, because you can just constantly spam bullets and never have to reload, including while dashing

final prairie
#

temple of styx - 2 runs in a row 😛

brisk trail
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not having to press the button is actually a plus for my tiny brain

ivory remnant
#

and reloading has screwed me over before, as someone whos main strategy is attackattackattack

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^

tranquil tulip
#

yeah

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but at the same time

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proper bullet management

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and proper reload timings are something you will learn

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as you get used to the rail

deep spade
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i've played with hestia shot for so long that reloading is just second nature to me now

brisk trail
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i'd love it if the attack sfx on the rail was different when under 1/3 ammo

ivory remnant
#

^

brisk trail
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having to look at the ammo count is annoying

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or counting bullets

deep spade
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yeah, that would be nice

tranquil tulip
#

ah yeah

ivory remnant
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also I'm a filthy casual button masher, so bullet management goes against my normal dumb strats :V

static wadi
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@ivory remnant so use shield)

thick remnant
brisk trail
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what's your weapon?

thick remnant
#

rail

brisk trail
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soul

final prairie
#

last possible route in the temple of styx....

ivory remnant
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nah, aim assist lets me use most weapons pretty well even with my dumb strats. even if I do jokingly complain about bullet management and timing and such, lol

brisk trail
#

kbm or controller?

main plume
final prairie
#

second ever time fighting hades 😛 2 runs in a row 😛 wish me luck

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250 hp, 2 death deefy

static wadi
#

gl

brisk trail
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i believe in you

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@main plume v cool

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aight no darkness run let's go

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only in the courtyard and having a single dash feels extremely weird

thick remnant
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wow thx game

final prairie
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😢

thick remnant
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i just want the one that makes the rail more accurate and faster

#

;-;

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what do i even take from these

brisk trail
#

What do you have?

#

If you don't want to mess with your fire type, take Rocket Bomb.

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It's very good.

thick remnant
#

hmm

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ok i guess

main plume
#

@thick remnant shotgun upgrade is super good

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probably the best one

brisk trail
#

That's Tempest Strike?

#

It's actually not bad with Spread Fire.

main plume
#

rocket is complete garbage what are you talking about

thick remnant
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now u say after i took the bomb xd

wind rover
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aww yiss, 7 in a row

brisk trail
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I'd normally avoid it like the plague, but if you want it, I'd take Spread Fire.

thick remnant
#

eh its whatever wont affect my run that much

brisk trail
#

Nah, Rocket Bomb has big damage.

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And if you're not a chump like me and you play on a controller with aim assist it's easy to hit stuff.

main plume
#

I would only take rocket if that was the only option on the list honestly

brisk trail
#

Trust me, I know that Rocket Bombard is good.

main plume
#

Nothing in this screenshot is about rocket though

brisk trail
#

Because Infinity Chamber and Explosive Fire on Zeus/Eris builds are better.

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But I hope all that experience at high difficulty will put your mind at ease that I know what I'm talking about.

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Swift Flourish and Deadly Flourish turn Rocket Bomb into a melt machine.

ivory remnant
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@brisk trail kbm, minus the mouse most of the time due to motor-sensory processing issues. took me a while to figure out how to consistently make it ignore the mouse properly, but now it's great

brisk trail
#

So you've got both hands on the keyboard and you play with aim assist?

#

does battle rage apply to every arrow on the bow special?

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@ivory remnant why not a controller then? or do your issues not allow you to use one properly?

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I t hink so.

static wadi
#

what a shame losin DD on Hydra and Theseus

thick remnant
#

Anyone got an interesting chiron bow build?

brisk trail
#

artemis/aphro

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weak on attack, crit on special, duo boon

thick remnant
#

hm ok

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i'll try it thx

brisk trail
#

np

hexed smelt
#

artemis special on a chiron build is so good

ivory remnant
#

@brisk trail yeah, controllers are very very hard for me, because there's more than one kind of input it expects me to do even though it's through one device. Unlike a keyboard where it's basically only the same kind of button, in easily recognizable places

thick remnant
#

oh

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...

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oh yeah its good

#

xD

#

already critting for like 52

deep spade
#

artemis special on chiron bow will apply marked to so many enemies

#

it's great for clearing rooms

lusty wasp
#

hmm - is there no thing like a fake controller programm?

#

because you can use the controller as if it was a smaller keyboard

ivory remnant
#

honestly, I just remap the keyboard controls and I am set

lusty wasp
#

meaning no special inputs needed

brisk trail
#

aight, sensible

#

i assume you've seen the push for more inclusive controllers in recent years?

#

the prices are probably steep though

lusty wasp
#

because i only know of a program that does the opposite - mapping controller inputs to keyboard buttons(so i can play flash games with controllers) -- the opposite should certainly be possible

ivory remnant
#

yeah, and controllers and consoles still make me nervous just due to years and years and years of being bad with them, so I'm happily limited to to a small group of PC games that do not involve the mouse, though I can bumble my way through games where using the mouse is absolutely necessary too if I love the game enough (see: all previous works from SGG)

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it's just about finding good workarounds, in those cases

brisk trail
#

glad you're still finding ways to make it work

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no darkness is working fine so far, just beat the hydra and i'm still full

thick remnant
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Ive rarely ever used controllers but i do wanna invest in one and learn cuz keyboard and mouse can really have a toll on my wrist

brisk trail
#

mostly a testament to how strong chiron can be tho

thick remnant
#

plus i'd imagine playing smth like hades would be a lot smooth with a controller

lusty wasp
#

im using keyboard and trackball

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while i have a good controller i still cant really see the advantage of using one

static wadi
#

final was too strong(

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5k gemstones WHAT???

ivory remnant
#

ah yes, ||the vintage shelf||

#

grinding for that myself

lean dome
#

is titan blood random room drop? or i have to do something in order to guarantee it? so far it has only dropped once per weapon at the first boss, was that just lucky? i've never dropped another one with the same weapon

static wadi
#

for any weapon

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1 time

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first and final boss

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for every lbl of heat

thick remnant
#

5k GWjiangoOmegaLUL

static wadi
#

and sometimes

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broker

deep spade
#

Once you complete a run and beat the final boss, you'll unlock the pact of punishment
you'll be able to get more titan blood by slightly increasing the difficulty, up to 10 per difficulty increase
1 titan blood from the first boss, 1 from the final boss, for each of the five weapons

static wadi
#

and charon in styx

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intrestin

lean dome
#

@static wadi @deep spade ohh i see, i see, thanks a bunch guys! now i feel bad for using them on the spot

static wadi
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@lean dome dont worry

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u will get it anyway later

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also u will get some blood from fated list

lean dome
#

got it, will be on my way then 😄

static wadi
#

gl with that dude

brisk trail
#

made it to styx

#

doubt i'll be able to win but here goes

static wadi
#

good luck

brisk trail
#

tyty

static wadi
#

i just died

#

in final

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1st time tried for 4 heat

#

but no luck with boons

#

some stuff that didnt work together

brisk trail
#

not having regen really hurts jesus

#

i feel you, i've got zeus/aphro/poseidon

#

terrible boons so far

#

only carried by a +200% dmg special

static wadi
brisk trail
#

Eros' Arrow.

#

romance time

mint shuttle
thick remnant
#

kissy kissy

#

uwu

narrow karma
#

my sister got 3 duo boons in a row on her third run, one of which I only saw for the first time after aiming for it via keepsakes for the past 5+ of my ~60 attempts

im so mad

static wadi
#

@narrow karma i had 3 duo at night

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that helped my finish my 1st sword run

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romantic??? he is a man >_<

brisk trail
#

you can reject him if you'd rather do that

static wadi
#

i just talk to him

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after fight

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and this stuff appeared

crisp oyster
#

he is a man. and you and he have a romantic history together. it's a thing.

brisk trail
#

I don't think there's romantic history with Thanatos.

hexed smelt
final prairie
#

sorry

thick remnant
#

My attack crits for 770....

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i just thought i should share that info

static wadi
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@thick remnant i made more with poseidon call

thick remnant
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way to burst the bubble xd

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but i mean... thats my attack

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not a call

brisk trail
#

Psh, lemme know when you crit for 14k.

thick remnant
#

you what

brisk trail
#

Back before boss skips were disabled, if you had the right stacks Aphrodite's Aid would break 5 digits.

thick remnant
#

wel...

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:(

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i wanna see that now

brisk trail
thick remnant
#

HOLY

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14602

tranquil tulip
#

is that a nuclear code

brisk trail
#

Used to be.

static wadi
#

Elysium

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Poseidon aspect

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still have no cast -_-

bright locust
#

hello guys

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someone help me?

static wadi
#

@bright locust what do u want?

#

hello

bright locust
#

my save data has corrupted someone could pass me a save data in the end game, I had over 50 hours in game and start all over again and very frustrating

#

detail the second time, the first time when I copy a friend's profile for some random reason my save came back, but this time it didn't help: c

static wadi
#

i thought hades has steam cloud?

brisk trail
#

Most people are probably playing from Epic.

bright locust
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@static wadi me too :c

static wadi
#

did u try to write in tech support?@bright locust

bright locust
#

yep

olive jungle
#

Sadly there's not much to be done about corrupted save data; usually this happens when the computer shuts off while playing, due to a power outage or something

static wadi
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@olive jungle and can I share savedata with him?

olive jungle
#

Sure, go ahead! Do you know where to find it?

static wadi
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nope

olive jungle
#

Documents\Saved Games\Hades

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You'll have Profile saves for each of your save files

static wadi
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which one i need?

olive jungle
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Everything except the .bak files, the .sjson files, and the debuglog

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So...activeProfile, profile1.sav, and profile1_temp.sav

brisk trail
#

...So is the .sjson extension a reference to Heavy Rain?

olive jungle
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Hahaha

brisk trail
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can you duplicate profiles ingame?

olive jungle
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Theoretically

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Oh you mean with a button? No

#

But if you made copies and renamed them Profile2, it'd essentially duplicate them

brisk trail
#

aight that's what i thought

#

ty

olive jungle
#

Np

static wadi
#

is it it?

bright locust
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I'll test, a moment

#

THANKS DUDE ❤️

#

I love u

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hahahaha

static wadi
#

did that work?

bright locust
#

I'll make up to 3 backups

#

oh yeah

static wadi
#

it's not much progress though

#

but gl with that

bright locust
#

It worked!

#

better than starting from 0

static wadi
#

mb mb

#

how i HATE when enemies or bloodstones fly away room walls and u just cant do anything with that

mint shuttle
#

until they fix that, always try to knock them up or right

#

you talking about in styx right? or am I just misunderstanding

brisk trail
#

I see it happen the most in Elysium.

static wadi
#

in styc in elysium too

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in final battle

brisk trail
#

Would love to see the recall timer start as soon as Bloodstones hit the ground.

#

does anybody have a screenshot of that scene where hades is sitting there and it says D O G

static wadi
#

whoooo

#

26 hp 0 dd left

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but i did it with some stupid build

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with weapon i hate

brisk trail
#

niceyy

static wadi
#

i just realised

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that Dusa snakes is like her hair

lean dome
#

does upgrading a call also improve the full gauge duration?

static wadi
#

yes

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if ur upgrade duration

lean dome
#

oh nice

lilac slate
#

is there a way to increase Mirror of Night limit? i only have 500 as limit

static wadi
#

@lilac slate u mean pact or what

lilac slate
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the darkness shard thing

static wadi
#

i dont get what limit u talking about

brisk trail
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You've got Budget Limits turn on on the Pact.

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The only Greater Calls that upgrade in duration is Athena's.

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Well, and Aphrodite's kinda.

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All the others increase damage.

static wadi
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i feel so dumb

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1 het lvl make me suffer so hard

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and almost lost 2nd with Meg

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1 lost 1 DD in tartarus with this Tomatos meeting

deft gull
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damn. my parents showed up early. I had to give up in the middle of the hydra fight 😩

static wadi
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why didnt you finish?

latent folio
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is there any suggestion for special of Zeus Shield?

static wadi
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lots

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poseidon

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aphro

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zeus mb

deft gull
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I didn't finish because we were going out to lunch

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It was not a situation where "please give me five minutes" was appropriate

static wadi
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well

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u may use pause?

brisk trail
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Hello

static wadi
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hi

brisk trail
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I am new to this game and so far I really love every bit of it, I just want to ask, is the early access mean that I will have to buy the full game later when it;'s released?

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Or it will be updated to the full game when it;'s done for those who bought the early access?

static wadi
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2nd as i know

brisk trail
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Thanks for the answer, this is a really good and enjoyable game.

static wadi
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have fun with it too)

brisk trail
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So far my biggest problem is in the Elysium enemies and boss.

static wadi
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what weapon do u use?

brisk trail
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I went with bow and sword, reached there like 2 times each, but either shield enemies or boss with the butterflies projectiles are killing me lol

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Poison is good.

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I also used spear, shield and gun but not feeling as confident with them.

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They are good, but each weapon is for specific stage with enemies in my opinion.

static wadi
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shield is rly easy and dumb

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u just grab athena dash

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poseidon attack

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hammer for dash attack

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and all attack/dash attack chaos bonuses u can find

brisk trail
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Yeah I have to hit them on the back but it's intimidating having to deal with 3 of those each map with yellow armor. lol Getting there to learn their mechanics though.

static wadi
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u just spam dash attack and roll around any enemy

brisk trail
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Oh that's sick

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lol

static wadi
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also hermes for attack speed and dash may be useful

brisk trail
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I've noticed Herme's speed buff can stack with any God's power ability, which is good.

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I could spam poseidon Y/Triangle with Hermes on it.

static wadi
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hermes does not give attack

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he gives speed of attack

brisk trail
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Yeah, figured, he is giving buff speed.

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Yeah.

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It's really amazing.

static wadi
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he is special god

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he and chaos

brisk trail
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I like how they made the game and almost anything is accurate / closely accurate to the myths of my history.

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Was really interesting to see that.

jagged bloom
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@brisk trail do you play on Epic or Steam?

static wadi
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@brisk trail well

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they have some thing i dont understand

brisk trail
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What is it? Maybe I know/noticed.

static wadi
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well i understand our modern trends had to be satisfied

jagged bloom
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@brisk trail isn't that a given? if you're gonna base your story on something you have to atleast keep it partially accurate.

static wadi
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but it looks weird 4 me anyway

jagged bloom
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what looks weird?

static wadi
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well

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i dont want to discuss it here

brisk trail
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@jagged bloom Some devs/writers/creators don't care enough or they want to make it a catering thing to certain masses.

static wadi
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i dont want to be banned or something

brisk trail
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@static wadi I think I might know what you mean.

jagged bloom
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oh

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i get it

brisk trail
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Regardless, the game is awesome.

jagged bloom
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it's nice

static wadi
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yup

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it's very good game

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i didnt have game which can make me play all night