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guys, please keep update talk in #h1-story-discussion and #h1-builds-and-combat !
sorry!
sorry
its alright, i just meant in general as a reminded because of the picture. some people just wont immediately be able to play it is all :]
Got it 👌
So... No one is able to play it at the moment?
The update is not yet out
Oh, okay
In that case, I still have time to have at least 1 run with High Speed Update
What do you mean the update will be out soon. The picture in the launcher baited me.
I keep opening the game, hoping it's secretely downloading everytime
Hasn't worked out so far
Will let you know if it does
update might be named big bad but it's definitely going to be big good
please clap
thank you,
I would report you if there was an option tbh
wow the hostility
(but yeah, gib update)
do i spoil myself with the patchnotes or do i wait til it comes out
read the notes
the feel of the game is a different beast than the text of patchnotes
i find one doesn't spoil the other
true
☝
Didn't sound like it was spoilery to me, only revealed the last area's name
Yeah we try to keep our patch notes very vague! The only thing spoiled might be the excitement of reading the patch notes and then instantly hopping into the game.
i'm particularly impressed that the fallen warrior gets called that in patch notes
How long til we can sea the Temple of Styx?
i want to see the ||cute goat boys||
i thought i'd get sick of the game playing it so much (purchased EA back in june) but each update is a highlight and personal bright spot in my week
true indeed
Updated OBS settings, got music ready, stares at update screen guess I'll need to come back later 😦
satyrs are just horn goons
Just doing run to have save with last 3 biome boss ready, but unlucky now haha 😂 2 boons when I came to mag haha
With the epic launcher being currently down does that mess with the release of the patch?
oh dear, it is?
U wot
yeah you can't log in at the moment
I checked around and its not just me who has the issue
Yup, can confirm
Welcome to Epic Games Public's home for real-time and historical data on system performance.
oof
only on the login servers tho
i cant sign in but i can still open and presumably play games
We could take classes together!
dunno if logging in affects downloading patches to a game
I just noticed and went to twitter to see if it was just me and just got flooded with people saying the same lol
but the store is down
hades crashed epic games
which in theory could mess it up
the update is too hot for them
It really was too big
ye atleast we can all play a round of fortnite
a lot of people can't cause the login server is down lmao
No more super ares bladestorms haha
oof
Only time I saw last boss downed in about 20 secs flat
back to struggling with Baba is You for now, I guess...
Great game
wake me when the dream is real...
im about halfway done, numbers-wise but i've been trying to complete areas before moving on
It's out bois
and it's wild which puzzles click for me and which i have to walk away from for like, weeks or months...
I'm updating
ah yeah 2gb of content!
now to deal with epic games terrible download rate
patch notes!!!
Now watch me get rekt for the next two days rather than reach the boss
OOOOOOYE
Dont worry new patches make flaming-hot-garbage out of people
oh it finally got to me
ITS HERE
update looks great, give full release please D:
100% forgot this was out today
OH YES IT HIT
Update coming the same day as the Hearthstone expansion release. What's happening? 😛
Downloading
NO I DONT WANNA FIGHT THE PUPPY
That screenshot with Cerb in it... That room is too narrow for a boss encounter
It's not Cerb at all is it?
Nah it's fine
I better not have to fight the puppy :(
cerb 2
I think this Discord needs a Cerberus Emoji.
I just hope they didn't go with DmC3 aproach to cerberus
And we will not leave pup with 1 head.
guys, you can pet the dog
I'd laugh if that was the only new feature
But its just about time for me to sleep anyway 🤷
But it's not so hooray XD
meh, no change for shield-bearing foes 😦
WHO'S A GOOD BOY?
No more chariots in the theseus fight, yeeeee
thank goodness, seemed a bit cheap that even after you get one of them down you can't catch a break
also I KNEW THAT SILHOUETTE WAS CERBERUS
guys, reminder to discuss stuff that isnt in the patch notes in the appropriate spoiler or gameplay channel! including speculation please, just in case 🙏
Where do I post bugs
use F10 to report
And and this mement, I don't know how we still don't have dogo reaction at the discord lol
Oh, new update. Time to peek at all the moderator names for puns. 
sorry yeah this is a very low effort name
Its perfect
yeah im all out of ideas
I still appreciate u
PAW NOW would work?
Pawtch
Petch Out
Well I reported my first bug I love bug hunting in updates lol
I expect to pet cerberus before the last boss of the new zone for a full health recovery
For the sake of the "Can You Pet The Dog" twitter, I hope we can eventually pet Cerb and let him know we love him
!!
We can pet the dog
we can pet him.... now!
Its in the patch notes
You press G to pet cerb and its a great animation btw!!!
i let the person who runs the account know
Im astounded that it didnt have the little shade bubble to indicate it was based on community feedback
Hahahah
That lower invuln time on bosses is beautiful
What the hell, I just got to Elysium and there's no trace of a Dedalus hammer
Report it with f10
can you pet the dog just posted it
@gilded hawk did you have any chaos boons that hid chamber rewards?
They shortened the length of each biome
sorry if someone already asked but we got a reset or its a bug ?
that must be a bug
? a run reset?
resets will be notified in advance
yes, my run is gone
i think #hades-tech-fixes-old has some fixes?
dont know yet
does anyone know if the new songs are up on youtube ?
I've been out of the loop for a long while
The email for the update mentioned "The final battle"
does that mean the game is close to "complete" ?
Yep!
It's at a gameplay end, but not a story end
^^^ Yeah that's a better answer
the songs are in the supergiant blast!
i think theyll be on youtube publicly in a week or so, but you should sign up for the newsletter anyway bc its fully of juicy info
What does a perfect landing do for you gameplay wise?
it changes your run seed last minute
oh really? Thats neat
Does it increase rarity of things or is just a last minute reset
just a reset!
wait does it actually?
I never even knew that
I honestly thought it just took away landing animation and let you play faster lol
There are also 2 perfect landings
jeez SGG baited me so hard
Are there any plans to bring Hades to PS4?
probably after launch
check #readme-first!
whats the second perfect landing?
It's just slightly different timing. One has a different animation and the other has same animation as regular landing
just beat the gaaaaaaaaame
I can't talk in feedback for some reason so I'll say it here. The design of the new area needs some rethinking. Tiny rooms + quick enemies = I take damage before I even manage to press a button. Or sometimes, lasers fill the entire room (no exaggeration). I understand you want the final area to be difficult, but there's epic difficult and unfair difficult and the tiny rooms fall under the second category. It feels just stupid and discouraging to get this far and be killed in a way that seems unfair to me
Hey Joyful! Please check the pins in the feedback channel.
Feedback here may be seen, but won't have community voting attached to it.
The entire game's feel is that the combat is tactical. In those small rooms it devolves into button mashing and hoping they die before I die.
its impossible to type ?rank early access
Please read the pinned message and backread in #hades-feedback so you understand the rules and avoid duplicate feedback!
my screen shakes and the msg doesnt go through
#bot-commands
hey guys want to see something mildly infuriating?
above every keepsake, it tells you who it is from
look at chthonic coin purse
@sterile peak Hey that looks like a bug if you equip the coin purse then re-enter the Keepsake screen. Thanks for the heads-up, we'll look into it here!
did they upload the last livestream to youtube after it finished? part of me wants to watch it but the other part of me wants to play the update lol
the streams automatically save to youtube after theyre over, yeah!
oh cool
I've never really used youtube's streaming feature so I didn't know lol
whats the patch size?
Hey Greg, the dev stream.. the game audio vs the devs is a bit out of whack
It's really hard to hear them since the game sounds are like overpowering them
Hey roger that, we've communicated it to them. Please let me know if it still seems off in the next couple minutes.
The patch size is 2gb
holy CRAP I have no idea how I'd ever beat that end boss w ith heat
Ello?
its a bit weird getting used to the game without upgrades
just bashed the fourth boss and i really enjoyed it (though i might've cheesed him cause i just surfed around with poseidon's call for about half a minute) I really enjoyed the fight but i am not so sure about the chambers before him, they seem extremely easy imo
The Styx rooms are very small so Poseidon can come across as a little much there.
Probably talk about gameplay since that's kind of a spoiler on who the 4th boss is
let me censor my message quickly then 😃
new update new me
eyyy
wow somehow your avatar became even more cursed belgo
well i think it looks great! thanks for your feedback
you're so welcome
it is kind of incredible how such a small tweak can emanate such raw power
it makes him look like the dwarf from dungeon meshi
counter-curse
here i'm closer now
😱
hades approaching

good
go, get out. don't let me stop you
he says that in the house
blood and darkness, what is it with you
sorry hades your eyes are just so intimidating
silence garbo garbanzo
gonzo gorgonzola
i like dog pet
I cant wait till release , i feel like tons of story has been cut from early access
you.... you can't cut what isn't there yet
yeach becuase they focus on game atm, but you know
we just need some extra dog pet animations to make it even better, once they are done with the story
need to increase the dog re-pet value
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
I just got a random crash on a great run
Aghhhh
I was very near the end
Oh hey it was awesome
Where would I send feedback that launching the game takes ages? Its not really a bug report :/
do you click the window?
Thanks for letting us pet the Cerb
Happy Cerby is good cerby.
there was live stream ? how did i miss that?
It was an @ here! The recording will likely be posted to YouTube at some point!
Hey, i found a bug where pierced butterfly wont gain stacks in the temple of styx, thats all, super cool update though
please use the f10 in game bug reporter to report that!
wait that might be a spoiler ye
ah, my bad. will do
Is Hades ready to be on any non-EGS platform?
after full release #hades-faq
such as Steam, GOG, itch.io, Nintendo Switch eShop, Playstation 4 shop, XBox One shop, etc.?
we dont know rly
Once it leaves early access, they've stated they plan to bring it to a variety of platforms
They haven't been entirely specific on what those will be. My guess is that they're still going to be weighing options and figuring out where best to launch it.
its openGL game so its easy to bring into switch, phones, xbox , mac , linux etc
cuz all of them support openGL
Personally i would love it on switch, gonna buy the LIte version at release
I mean they say outright in the new roadmap that they're going to work on compatibility for other platforms
Given that they ported Transistor and I think Bastion to Switch, I would think a Switch version of Hades would be reasonable.
That also being I think the switch is actually one of the more used consoles currently.
Switch and PS4 (for the exclusvies mainly). Unfortunately Xbox is a "lol what's that"
Where do we send bugs we find?
Sooo, quick dumb question, does anyone know if the new Temple of Styx the last zone and thats game over ?
Sandbox, press F10 in-game to report bugs
I accidentally got myself softlocked, but i figured out a way to kill the last enemy
Also Tsuna, the developer roadmap says that their goal is for four areas. So it would be pretty safe to assume that, at the moment, they aren't planning on adding any more zones.
Yeah, this patch is a major milestone for them; they pretty much have the full game structure in place. All boss fights, all the biomes.
I think they said maybe another olympian and another weapon, they've confirmed another NPC in the next major update.
The biggest milestone tho is being able to pet cerberus
I would love the 6th weapon to be a Scythe like Thanatos has 🤞
Something that has bothered me for a while: the hydra doesn't have drop shadows, making it hard to tell where its head will land when it goes for its bouncing attack (if you're not used to it)
it took me this long to notice the death defiance tokens are just tiny zag faces 
They used to be hearts.
i think the next weapon is gonna be another ranged weapon
3 and 3?
since it's on the ranged side with the gun and bow
yeah
maybe like a throwing axe or glaive or something
Perhaps a ranged Attack and melee Special to mirror the spear and shield.
Hybrid like a flail with a ranged attck could be cool
i want nunchucks since theres nunchucks on the trojan arms decoration
So, what is the best weapon now?
I did a gun run, and it just felt bad at higher biomes, maybe it was because of the boons tho
i'm guessing the next weapon is gonna be a flamethrower or something
since it's the only weapon class from bastion/transistor that hasnt made it into hades yet
We got 1 melee, 1 captain's shield, 1 mid-range (spear), 2 long-range. I think a magic weapon will be cool 😄
You kidding
My game froze
After getting to the final place
Now I gatta pray my game saved
O
I think it did
Thank god
Just happened to see the new update in action via youtube, don't have or plan to get epic. Looks like the game's improved since i last popped in
....wait
That's it?
Was that the final boss
Bruh I had a harder time with the King
O
Nevermind
Yea I'm outta here
Fuuuuuuu
Oh boi
It's done?
Tbh I was waiting for him to wooop my ars
But he only took away one of my 3 lifes
I'm half expecting him to do another round lol
guys, please discuss the final boss in #h1-story-discussion or #h1-builds-and-combat, i know you guys are keeping it vague but just in case!
Kay kay
WHAT! They added the option to pet the dog and DIDNT put it in the highlights, I am disappointed in you supergiant.
how do i pet good boi
Idk I just got the option in the house of hades
it disspeared for the next run
I think you also pet him when you gift him now
welp
my update just says "queued"
whatt do
wait this isnt a good channel for this
Restart your computer/epic launcher. Same thing happened to me
also make sure you verified your game files!
go into your library and click on the gear next to the launch button for hades. there should be a button named "verify" in the resulting drop-down menu
how do you get permission to post on the feedback channel?
Check the pinned post in feedback
I feel like there should be a toggle to reenable narrator voicelines that you already heard once. Sometimes I play with sound muted and missing a quip from the narrator is annoying. A toggle that makes those little sparkling places that play a voiceline respawn would be amazing.
Put that in #hades-feedback if you’d like the devs to see it/others to vote on it!
I have no rights to post in #hades-feedback I just joined the discord as I had this idea and wanted to give it as feedback. Can you do it for me?
check out the pinned posts in the feedback channel to find out how to post there 
Thanks. Also the first Discord I have seen where there is actual usefull information in a pinned post lol. usually stuff like that is in #readme-first
If there is important information in the pins, the channel info will usually tell them to read them !
... First time I have ever seen usefull information in the channel info...
There’s a first time for everything 😁
but seriously, how do you guys navigate discord servers without reading channel info or pins? They help me a lot
Channel descriptions are usually extremely self explanatory. If something is called gameplay-discussions you go there to discuss gameplay. Not all that many servers I visited lock public channels at all, and those that do have the unlocks always in an #readme-first type channel. This is genuinly the first time I have seen an unlock in a Pin. Also half of all servers I am on are made by friends so they just tell me what is what.
Elysium feels so easy now
and the shield is as strong as ever
This game is also as great as ever. Haven't played much since the first couple of weeks after the High Speed patch and it's so fun to play again
Elysium being shorter is also definitely a boon
Yeah, maybe it could be a touch harder, but I was also playing shield with no heat so...you know. But it's definitely more enjoyable than it was
Elysium before was just a boring slog
That was only ever enjoyable if you had a super powerful build going
If you look in gameplay, almost everyone hates the way the shield guys feel
Any chance the team has released full res images of the god portraits? They’re so well detailed I’d love something better than the wiki images lol
the wiki images are the highest detail we have
did someone update the wiki with the new duos and other boons
just played my first game after patch, im not in love with the new biome. feels claustrophobic and limits your movement, which i dont like. also the enemies that poison big parts of it dont help either.
When you want to hang out with your discord peeps but you can't look at anything anyone says because I GOTTA BEAT THE BOSS FIRST
I WANTS NOOOOO SPOOOIIILERZ
Then you’re in the right place haha
Doesn’t look like the wiki is updated yet
The wiki updaters are still playing and enjoying the game and will get to that eventually
id be happy to update the wiki if i had the strength to do so
Don't want to bother this in tech support. I am using a switch controller hooked up to my computer. I only use it during hades (since the steam controller doesn't play nice with the epic games store). The switch controller will ocassionally just drop out and stop functioning. Is this a Hades problem, or a windows problem? Anyone else experience weirdness with a switch pro hooked up to their PC?
Sounds more like a windows problem? Have you tried playing any other games on PC with the switch controller?
I'll try something on steam with it. I don't own any other epic games.
@halcyon heron I had similar issues with my Xbone controller. Are you wireless? If you are, try connecting with a cord and playing that way. Or switch to mouse and keyboard. :D
It seems that difficulty balance is still broken and the last biome is even more broken
E.g. rats attack immediately after I enter the room and deal 50 damage, maybe at least a bit breath of air after entering rooms?
Last boss just shreds my hpbar like seeds, I didn't even have time to understand what he does
Minotaur and Theseus are still too fat
Also why making hydra projectiles faster when that's not a problem but the boss concept itself is a problem - it's fat, repetitive and monotonous
No, I am wired.
I guess maybe the more important thing is if it's possible for Hades to detect that it went from controller to "no controller" to automatically pause
Gives a bit of panic when all of a sudden Zag stops responding
@halcyon heron sorry, wish I could help. To make a case for KB&M, I started with controller and thought I would hate switching to kbm. I switched, loved it and never looked back. Give it a try!
@wicked osprey (take that to the #h1-story-discussion chat please! thanks)
@fiery skiff So far getting good boon combos seems key to the last boss. It's hard to figure out his attacks when they do 50 damage a hit. Not much room for exploration or error. I still don't know what I'm supposed to do with the urns that spawn the green hands. The skulls seem hit or miss to dodge as well.
I lost my save w the update but I think I found them 😅
But I have to hide from this discord BC I don't want spoilers 😰
So I hope everyone is having fun!
@iron trench The team at SGG asks that you break up your feedback into multiple posts so that they can be voted on separately. Me speaking personally I would thumb up your takes on Tartarus and Elysium but thumb down your take on Theseus and Asterius, who I think are in a good spot right now.
Ah, yep, that's indeed the case - if you look at it and think "I agree with this part, but not this part," that's a decent rule of thumb that it needs to be multiple posts instead of just one
@Badcar My apologies! im still new here on this server so if there are some things i should know, shoot!
Yo is the wiki upto date on the duo boons? is there a list of duo boons somewhere on the net?
I have to imagine the wiki editors are also playing the update so might not have gotten to it 🙂
But can’t confirm or deny
Descriptions are up, not all art is.
Though Vengeful Mood is slightly inaccurate.
Color me impressed!
You can generate its spawn with just Revenge boons, I think.
Thanks a lot
i'll get around to updating the wiki with all boon information...... tomorrow, probably, i really don't feel like doing anything other than play games tonight lmao
i think the duos were the juiciest part to get out there, people are generally patient
u playing other games atm as well or primarily hades?
Hey Atlas, we had someone in a similar situation earlier over in tech-support. You may have to contact Epic Games support as listed there, but first you can double check that your account is fully in-order. A previous user had recently changed their email and that caused the issue for them.
I updated the duo boon page with the info I knew to the best of my knowledge. Feel free to edit it if its inaccurate 😄
I already sent in a ticket, but it helps to know I'm not alone. Thank you so much Caitlin! I didn't change any epic info lately, so I think it's just an unfortunate bug!
Hopefully I get an answer some time soon since I have tomorrow off and totally wanna veg out playing!
My pleasure! I hope it's resolved quickly!
Vengeful Mood im not sure on. I was only able to generate it with an effect from both and then a revenge effect, but I couldn't tell if it was any revenge effect needed or a revenge effect from those 2 specifically. It does work with all revenge effects though.
i think i got it with exactly two boons from the pair, one vengance and the other just a rando ares boon.
alright so its more "any boons from the 2 work but you need a revenge boon"
which makes sense, ill edit that
I've been doing my best on finding as many duo boons as possible, I think I found em all.
Did anyone else experience animation glitches? There were a couple times in Asphodel where the Slam-Dancers weren't doing their walk animations and were sort of gliding if there's a lot of enemies/effects.
just played the new patch, fantastic! only problems is i thought the last rooms in the last biome gave very little time to react before enemies attacked, and sometimes with the rooms being so small the background pillars/walls could block too much of the room and also blocked view of poison on the floor. That aside final boss was fantastic good job
I experienced a slight "glitch"? Should I report this?? on my last run when enemies spawned in the boat part in Asphodel, they'd be invisible for a second before appearing fully? I'm not describing it well, but I could tell they were there even though their Avatars had not appeared yet...
hey, its just me or the game is blurry when I attack and when i stop its again sharp ? https://youtu.be/j2WP7R6if4U watch in full 720p60 to see
Happen with each weapon beside bow edit: dash also make screen blurry
I don't see anything
Man, I have zero luck using the rail or blade
Some boss fights/rooms just feel like a slog with those weapons
Dunno how to build around either
Rail you want Zeus or Dio on attack if youre using any of the upgrades that keep its nature as a machine gun, and Artemis/Athena if youre on heavy slug
Dio is real good for Rail, yeah, coz you up Poison really fast
Less good for bosses though, in my experience
Of course now I'm having a solid Rail run
I've mostly gotten Aphro/Poseidon though, with one Zeus boon
Never seem to get what would make a build good but this is working
I've started taking the Chaos Egg into Tartarus, because I think the game gets a lot more fun when I'm not trying to get a certain build I liked before
What do you mean?? 🤔 When you're NOT trying to get a certain build???? 🤔
just rolling with whatever the void throws your way
defying the Fates
taking a chance
refining technique over theorycrafting
Have you already got your 120 heat run? 
I haven't even started usin heat 
Same. I didn't even realise what it did at first and sold my first bunch to the wretched dealer.
do they erase game progress with updates
It didn't erase mine, so I assume not
a streamer had his progress wiped so im wondering
No it does not
mine is safe
ok
the streamers needs to report that
ok so I think that dio attack on rail is bad
I'm beginning to lean more towards dio being not that good in general, at least against most enemies
if your save gets wiped, thats definitely unintended! these things happen in early access, but check out the #hades-tech-fixes-old channel for things that could potentially help
Hey, I recently started playing Hades... For latest patch, how far do I have to proceed to reach Temple of Styx?
Is there save point before that beside starting point?
Hey, you always start from hades hause
No save point to start from elysium or so
You need to rush through around 35 rooms, did not checked that. That was 40 before patch where there was no Styx, but it's shorter now
It took me 61 rooms to complete run, although I cleared all rooms in Styx what isn't always required
wait did my chaos gate just... disappear?
I saw it
I heard the jingle when i cleared the room
but its gone
wait I think thats a bug with the egg
I think it made the chaos gate disappear because my egg leveled up in the same room
what

huh, sounds like a bug! please use
to report in game!
certified bruh
?
it was weird is what i meant
Did the new patch come with some sort of visual update, or new textures? It seems like my game is much laggier now, with a lot of visual stutter on crowded screens
i used to have stutter but it fixed after a lil while
Think I noticed some particle effects but the art I know off the top of my head was only in the house
I'm having it more than usual, definitely, especially in the 4th biome fight
It was the worst for me in Asphodel, sothat's why I assumed it might be a texture issue. Lots and lots of lava texture there
report it with F10 when you have big lag spikes! im pretty sure itll help optimize the game
Afrodit shotgun cast is the best in the game, beated hades only with this and artemis fast cast release
I just realized that I hit 420 damage and Zag went "hehe"
he knew
Cheeky developers
zag: nice
he what
I'm not even sure how to test that but I'm certain it's true
oh, might just have been an 'enemy died' line.
that's emergent gameplay, right there.
You're probably right. As much as I want to believe the devs would make a 420 joke (because I somehow still find that funny), I really doubt they would.
I think Zag chuckles whenever you have a really big spike of damage.
or when you clear the chamber flawlessly
"Not a scratch."
Hai I just joined
Hello Just Joined
Jokes on you I didn't say 'I'm just joined' I said 'I just joined'.
Is it possible to play Hades offline on Epic Launcher?
I think so
At least I’m pretty sure I did play Hades offline
You don’t even need the launcher after you downloaded the game afaik, you can just run the .exe, except for updates ofc
Oh thanks, I thought desktop shortcut took me to .exe
I can play it after locating the exe file myself
I'm hype because my game kept freezing and I would have to exit, So now I changed the settings abit so I should be able to play it freezelessly! (If that's a word)
Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old
You said a word, it responded to the word.
bots aren't exactly the most context sensitive things
hllo
Hey y'all! I have a question!
hello
I bought Hades when it was first announced so I could give Super Giant my money. I'm waiting to play it until it's done though. Is it finished with this recent big bad update?
Not sure when the actual launch date is considered.
Been trying to avoid all spoilers, but that email made it look like it was about done
well let's say you can indeed escape the underworld as of this update
The entire "game structure" is in place
but its not 100% finished
So that means you could play from start to finish and get the approximate experience the game has to offer. That being said, if you're waiting for a full on full release, there's still alot they plan on adding.
Ahh okay! Thanks y'all, I'll keep waiting then 😃
though rest assured there's already plenty of content in the game
Super Giant means too much to me, I gotta wait for their perfect experience haha
Oh I have no doubt and am not at all worried.
^ definitely. I've gotten a good 30-40 hours out of Hades since last December, and that was back when we only had 2 biomes.
Thanks y'all!
Argument that you'll never have the perfect experience because it's a roguelike, and you should enjoy it every step of the way.
i'd argue that playing the game as it currently stands is a separate experience from the full game
That too
there's definitely contextual dialogue and such in this version that won't be around later
Still have plenty of locked heart events
also you get the joy of playing broken builds before they get nerfed! and...fighting bosses before they get nerfed,
don’t even think anyone’s got a full thing yet
the boy
cerberus has one locked heart left, that's the only one i remember off the top of my head
it doesnt really count tho because you start off with like half of the hearts unlocked and filled :x
(with cerberus)
cerberus will always love us The Most
he loves you very much
what if nobody but cerberus can even get to full hearts
hey ive got an idea for the game i know this is off topic
Aw.... cute
"how dare thy make a post about a game within the discussion chat of that game" :kappa:
but nah for real go on
but what if athena is about protection and stuff like that wouldent it be cool if she had a boon that could give you sheild like some enemies
technically she does
I think they beat ya to that one chief :p
Reflect dash is kinda that
She's got a lot of shield related themes and boons
Or reflect in general
i know like literal sheilds but im talking a sheild for your health bar like later game enemies
Starting a room out with Armor would be super good tbh. It would beat her current legendary as that is unfortunately kind of made moot by Vengeful Mood and Holy Shield now.
And her wrath
yeah and it would be nice to be able to be a bit more wrecless
oh athena hates recklessness
ohhhhhh
joke's on her, i exclusively use athena boons to be reckless
true
yeah but it's not recklessness if you cant get hurt
like the sheild
ok...........i'm not sure if that counts,
like you're protected and stuff you can go ahead and make some rat purée or whatever
🐀
🍮
oh is that what the green stuff is 🤔
This rat is in hell and all you can think about is purée
It's delicious I swear
yeah and if you had a sheild for your health bar she would still be protecting you
better than filet of slurgh
it's not hell!!!!!
It's the hell between hell
Not literal hell.... but emotional turmoil hell.......
yeah
Support your rats
I mean it's perfectly literal hell too
(kicks you in the snout)

rat family is a better family to zag than family family
Dear gods I am not looking forward to climbing up to Styx with maxxed Vicious Torment.
Theseus was hard enough
I’ll be zag’s entire rat family
you only like rats bc they look cute and friendly in joanne's artwork!!!
it's not the best anymore but zeus is so flashy i just have to love it
I stan Athena
the actual ingame rats are feral and probably killed your mother
30-50 FERAL RATS
they attacked my mother
wait are ther rats in this game
yes
it’s a good boon, Brent
is brent the rat
are they on the last floor or somthing
congratz!
conga rats
conga rats
conga rats
🐀 🐀 🐀 🐀
Favorite boons are Artemis boons. I love seeing stupidly high numbers and having the feeling of "lol that enemy no longer has a health bar"
I'll also argue that Artemis is best girl for all eternity, and the new Aphro Artemis interaction only confirms that. It's absolutely adorable.
I didn’t really get a Poseidon build in the one run I did but ven did say he’s pretty powerful rn
Maybe the shades in the house of hades will just get mod puns as dialogue
really ive never gotten alot of good boons from artemis
Don’t let the “low” crit chances fool you
Artemis crit 👌
She’s extremely powerful
ahhhhhhhhhhh
Yeah
Legit question for wretches of the Underworld - How do I make the 30-50 feral rats that run into my temple within 3-5 minutes kill my kid while he plays?
look if gregory kasavin writes shade dialogue that just says "conga rats" my soul will leave my body
i dont get those often surprisingly
Triple Bomb or Double Nova combined with Artemis Crit on the Special is busted good
oh my god.
you can't have both pinned, at least have the dignity to unpin mine
I did
good
Cause of Death: Conga Rats
I was about to apologize but I’m just laughing too hard
It'll happen naturally
That implies I'm good at meme-posting :p
ooh whats youre guyses favorite weapoon mines the sword it just has the best feel to me
bow
(Hypnos voice) "Hmm, says here you got killed by something called conga rats. That sounds like a party! Shame they ripped you to shreds, huh?"
also, bow
love that bow
spear despite everything
Im a shield/gun main
It’s got a RHYTHM
Bow is pretty good now. I actually like using it now, which is a huge change.
bow
with twin shot??? Don’t even KID man
banished from, the land above
for his father caused him pain
wand'ring rats, they eased his burden
with some nasty dead remains
they would fight to earn their freedom
through tunnels and snowy plains
our poor zaggy could not join them
cause the boss fight was a pain
so he lead his rats to glory
and they spread poison on main
his conga rats reached ascension
but the farmers...such a shame,
I guess all weapons are good, but I honestly don’t super enjoy smashing q with sword and spear
This is why I rebound my special to LShift
Kam you best be careful or someone from sgg might actually sing that
“story teller reads kams poetry”
are we pronouncing reached like reach-ed
it does
whatever works then!
look if you're going to stan the plague rats at least have the decency to suggest zag keeping a small rat as a pet
this was a really deep cut but so he led his rats to glory... it was there all along
Just sing this to the tune of hymn to zagreus
Zag already has the chariots as pets
I need this in my next update now
oh i hate the chariots
Zag’s pet flame wheel: uhh... meow?
hades banned chariots from the house because they kept blowing up everywhere
bad alma cursed
no no sing it to mourning song! its the beta mourning song rewritten :3
OHHHH
AAAA THE NEMEAN CHARIOT THAT WAS IN ZAGS ROOM W THE ELYSIUM BUG EATS THE RAT
GJFHFD
mdnfjdnnfn
since i use the sword i cant get close or they esplode so when i am low on health i hae to keep avoiding them and taking pop shots with cast
zag: wheres my plague rat
chariot: um
What if when the chariots lie they explode similar to a pinocchio situation
that would be a horrible death since there not alive
but they already died?
you go back to your room one time and a little rat tail is hanging from it
AAAA
ok has anyone used the skulls other than trading
hjfhjfhj the rat dies and is a ghost and now its stuck in the house and hades is FURIOUS
“Maaaaaan...” Cause of a Death: Eaten By Chariot
dusa stumbles upon the rat somewhere in the house and gets scared bc she never saw one and it looks kinda ugly so she just slaps it with the feather duster and it just falls into tartarus' depths
dusa is best
@chrome linden the skulls are for use with the pact of punishment
hades but you play as the rat and it's a stealth game where you have to avoid confrontation
i know has anyone used them other thatn trading is what im asking
Stealth games are my bane but I would play that
yes, of course
Someone even did a speedrun with 120 heat
but on the previous patch, not this one
dang thats impesive
dishonored rat summoning boon
but i was asking anyone in this chat
call on your rat buds
not just in general
ah, yeah
ok cool
most I did was 60 but i didn’t win
I got the 15 heat one back when the hydra was the final boss though
i just dont use it because im too trash at the game
you’ll get there! But they’re not mandatory for sure
o i know
It was added to the game because people who played a lot and beat the game every time asked for a challenge for more replay value
well, added that early at least
I think they said they had it planned but didn’t think people would want it that soon
I remember when heat didnt even have any rewards associated with it
that was previous update
I wonder if we will ever get a variant of life drinker again
life drinker?
man, probably not
It was a daeadulus hammer boon for sword that made the third hit in the 3 hit combo heal you for a percentage of damage dealt
I don’t see a way to not make it incredibly powerful
oh yeah i remember that that was a while ago
life gain on a reliable basis is amazing
It was essentially a no skill boon, which I know, because it won me a game before I was any good at it
Just tank all damage and never stop attacking
Yeah
yeah i would get it and still die cause i was utter garbage
nah, you don’t understand just how good it was
tbh 25% dodge chance I feel kinda the same about but it’s rng so
oh i love how hermes trinket is the only diffrent god trinket
Hermes: if a daedalus hammer was also a college student that had a part time job as a mailman
i love getting his trinket befor skellys and trying to bet a room as fast as i can although i do wish enemeis spawned faster
you can make them spawn faster with the pact but they’ll also attack faster
That’s why speedruns use 40 heat
yeah i couldent do that i get hit enough already as it is i still cant beat tarturas
you’ll get there in time 👌
On the topic of heat, I'm very proud to hold what I think is the title of "Being the only person insane enough to beat the game with 120 Heat on the Rail"
no ive been playing since it first released
I'm a god gamer :kappa:
ngl I planned to not download the update until I beat 120 heat but when I opened it today it apparently updated itself. Lol
I'm doing it again just for the memes, now this time including Styx.
I beat it before the Big Bad Update
yeah I vaguely recall
My strat this time is "sure I'm using the rail but I'm relying on Hunting Blades to carry me"
Seems impossible now with my skill level
same
Cause I need something to melt bosses. Unfortunately the rail just doesn't melt things as fast as a shield or Sword Nova build.
Idk how good it’ll be on high heat but lightning rod also a fantastic cast duo
buff the rail pls
i hate when the game updates and then it says cannot launch giving me a tiny heart attack thinking the game got deleted but its just updating
Lightning Rod is literally the Theseus killer lol
He literally stands still on top of the casts with no regard to the fact that he is being struck by 20000 volts of pure energy every second.
he’s tough
Ok well technically no, he stands still while calling you rude names and calling you a chicken
....wait this isn’t spoilers, should I delete my message or is the biome ok to mention, just not the boss 
Because he's such a manly demigod he can stand on lightning rods and he ain't afraid to show it.
alright if you need me mention me ill be playing hades on my other monitor
theseus: YOU BLUNDERING WORM, YOU- [bzzzt] -WORTHLESS LITTLE ABSOLUTE TOENAIL OF A MAN, YOU - [bzzzzzt] WHY DO I FEEL SO AWFUL AROUND YOU. IT MUST BE - [bzzt] YOUR UGLY LITTLE FACE
Honestly, I think Lifedrinker could come back
it does the cartoon thing where u see his perfect skeleton every time
awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww you can pet cerberus now too freaking cuuuuuuuute
LMAO KAM
Pretend you saw nothing
dangit man i wanted too find out who i fight
Sorry, I thought I was in hadesspoilers
My save has been deleted. I'm just lucky or some1 else is meeting same problem?
I think Epic store itself is being a little funky. Myself and someone else has been having issues with the game too. Like it vanished from my account and its trying to make me rebuy it.
i could always just buy the game again though 
haha thats me if the game will be released on switch . It will be insta buy together with switch lite
Ohhh it would be awesome on switch. The only thing stopping me from rebuying is IDK if I'll have my save?
I really hope I didn't lose it because its gonna be a hard regrind to where I was before. I was totally up to date
you shouldnt have to rebuy it, if you have proof of purchase send epic a support ticket with it
The new biome is AMAZING
I did send a ticket but their team is either overwhelmed (most likely) or just kinda slow.
I am thinking of gettign this when is it released fully
I'm suppose to have the early access role, I think, I played it in early access, So, I think I'm suppose to have it?
please read the pins in #hades-feedback to find out how to get the early access role !
Alright thanks.
this new enemy in ||elysium|| is incredibly annoying
it has exactly the same problems as the early version of the bomb enemy back in tartarus, it makes a million annoying things and takes forever to kill
wretched pest, thats the one im talking about in tartarus
but this new enemy has just about a million health WITHOUT even having armor
and it spews out a million little butterflies that hampers you so much that you kinda have to kill them immediately
but its not possible to kill them immediately, you cant get close because of the butterflies so you just have to spam your cast and wait for it to come back pretty much
at least thats the case as long as you have the sword, ranged weapons might be better to deal with those
how am i even supposed to kill them?
ive got just about 50% more or so health on my enemies and extra enemies with heat
so i get three of them at the same time
and i wasnt actually using the sword this time, i was on the shield
they were still absolute drek to get through
HOWEVER
THE NEW AREA
IS
INCREDIBLY COOL
i just got there and got my first chamber reward
and its just
OOMPH
great
i love it
The new biome is cool to look at but I'm finding the enemies either a breeze or maddening
@worthy dagger I had the same problem, check if you have a duplicated 'saved games' folder
Thanks, I'll check it
this was the one i made by mistake when I made a new save
compared to:
oops wrong copy
😂
so that one had my old saves; i copied those into the proper folder, and boom!
so I hope you can have it worked out! Best of luck!!!
man i don't know how to feel about styx
on the one hand, i like the concept of the zone
on the other, i feel as though it doesn't fit for the final zone
it says fourth biome, not final biome
i mean
that final confrontation afterwards seems pretty final
any biome afterwards would probably be a secret biome
something that would require a certain amount of heat or something
oh no I don't want heat specific areas aside from erebus
i sure hope nothing would be locked behind heat. that would be upsetting.
erebus is fine, but locking story content behind difficulty is.... meh
Are you supposed to be able to charm meg with Aphrodite’s ‘unhealthy fixation’?
+ Shield of Chaos: basic attack no longer knocks foes away
Whaaaa?
Is the main story finished with the big bad patch?
New remembrances 👀
Wait did they just buff the final boss
Yeah, they always buff the game
i was enjoying those op as hell super wraths while they lasted
no shield of chaos knock away 😰
Yeah those nerfs make sense and were expected
But damn, the final boss probably did too much damage as is
good thing they buffed the length of styx
The Zeus wrath max was BONKERS
hello the art???? so ?? cute????
YEAH
dashing wallop nerf 😢
cerberus is a good! boys!!
dashing wallop was pretty damn good
This isn't exactly game related but I just want to say to Supergiant Games that I'm really impressed with the whole transparency and involvement with fans as the game is developed. Which just makes me love SG more.
That shield nerf
did they reduce the damage and nerf hitbox size?
My heart 💔
I really wanna know what "bad things" Skelly caused
Im curious as well
He removed the shield knockback
Skelly revealed himself to be the TRUE final boss
and he got off lightly
And the secret battle started
That picture with Cerberus and the baby characters is so precious!! ❤
"Cerberus who eats raw flesh, the brazen-voiced hound of Hades, fifty-headed, relentless and strong."
FIFTY headed??
Skelly didnt have any attacks, but he would just push Zag around and yell "Boyo" until Zagreus willingly went back home
the skelly thing was a softlock
hesiod just went hog wild
i am obsessed with this patch drawing
it made it so you couldn't pick up the boon/item in the first room
they just kept adding heads and couldn’t stop
hesiod was just like "yeah cerberus has 50 heads what about it"
Everyone else: that doesn’t sound right but I don’t know enough about Cerberus to say so
just more pupper per pupper 
The mental image of Skelly just standing in front of the boon and interrupting Zagreus whenever he tries to talk to the god is pretty great
Hahaha
he wants the boon for himself
so that he can become Powerful
wow finally they took a little bite out of shield
i probably only got as far as i did in the final boss fight bc i got dashing wallop on the third hammer
I hope they dont touch Bullrush
i think the defense is a fair tradeoff cause it's rather slow
I had epic last stand and Athena's Aid on the one I cleared. Plus 7 death defiance charges. Having an effective 1200 HP felt a little bit silly with a 23 second invincibility call every time I 'died'
Is there anywhere you can see the exact numbers of the changes? Or do you just have to catch them in game?
wait so athena's DD boons do affect all DDs?
Yeach
Babies 😭
Who is the small next to Zagreus?
thanatos
That is who I thought, thank you.
baby skelly????
baby skelly head 😭
hey i came back to hades after two months i think and i just have a question,are chaos gates more expensive now right
sweet lord that cerberus and babies drawing just cured my depression
imo the chaos gate health toll is pretty manageable
your passive +3 per room regen makes up for it
yeah they used to be practically free before they increased it
and you get to skip a room which may have taken more than 25 health from you
every time i take the egg i get no chaos gates
thanks chaos
chaos should offer +dodge boons i want to stack 100% dodge for laughs
Haha yeach, me too
But tbh in latest patches the chaos doesn't show too frequently overall
with the styx shop i wonder if the +money boon just got a lot more valuable
But also I noticed I miss it sometimes. And when I click an doors to next level I see and ohh there was chaos
+ Stygian Blade: reduced damage radius of Nova special
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo
:'(
yeah....
they don't know what to do with it aha remember some patch ago where they re-up'd it because radius was too small
well you almost always want to take super nova anyways
I should build special for sword someday, always found the rhythm difficult
Just abused the shield a bunch to get my first clear, and now I see they have gotten rid of its base knock back lol
Wow this entire patch is just buffs to the enemies and nerfs to weapons / boons o/O
time to turn down the heat again ..
Hehe
I can't ever use Sword Special. It just feels weird, I keep forgetting about it
apparently all the high level speedrunners go hogwild for sword special
well it's good aoe and somewhat safe
i dont want to say its good to see shield nerfs, but... its good to see shield nerfs :p
So, with the big bad update is the story for hades finished? I was holding out on buying it until the story was complete
The game's full gameplay structure is in place, but the main "story" (as in the conclusion) is being reserved until the game launches next year
right now you get to the end and it does the same thing its always done ||(kills you with a funny line from the narrator)||
kinda a spoiler
yeah thats fair, lemme spoiler box that
||For now even the surface is subject to ONGOING UNDERWORLD RENOVATIONS||
I always found the sword special to be pretty good. Both the Daedalus hammer upgrades are each 100% and 50% more damage. No funny business. Works really well with the big % damage special boons obviously.
It's super boring, but it's good!
Outside of spamming the sword special and using the dash attack, I never managed to do well with the sword
For me timing always felt very weird, both charge up and recovery time, it really breaks the flow
Best runs I've had are with a Special spear build and the shield
Yeah you can only do it once every 2 dashes kinda? It is a little weird how the recovery on it doesn't get reset by anything (I think)
I wonder what % speed buff you'd need to get from Hermes to let you just repeatedly dash special. I assume that's how his boon works for the sword special
If I may ask, who did the art in the patch notes image?
Jen Zee, I believe. Posted it on her twitter
Oh Jen herself! Sweet
baby meg
@last stone I suppose you can't get enough speed from boons, also its item is hard to stack speed more than ~10 times
i just beat theseus and the minotaur for the first time that was epic
+ Fixed a rare issue where 'killing' Skelly made him appear in the next chamber, and bad things happened
i really want to learn what happened here
that's hilarious
when you get drafted into the skeleton war... :(

