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#h1-discussion
alpine stratus
rotund finch
LOL I had a lot of ambrosia saved up and I keep going for Hermes cause I love his boons
fair zodiac
Anyone see Meg anymore ?
rotund finch
I see her rarely, for her to show up in the house you have to have fought her the last run I believe
fair zodiac
Been many patches since I seen her always her two sisters
rotund finch
yeah I once went 30~ runs without see her
I soon as I mentioned it here she showed up lol
tulip lava
oh my god
hypnos has just been sleeping this whole time
and wearing those eye stickers over his eyelids
that makes his eyes look open but they were the wrong colour
olive jungle
dkgjhdfkghkgfd
remote ember
omg lol!!!!!
tulip lava
oh no i have to change sim hypnos's eyes now
halcyon heron
Hmm.. it seems like several entries disappeared from the codex
I only have greatshields now, the spear guys and archers are missing
sudden creek
Woot! Finally won my first run of Hades! Theseus was a real mean boss
spiral ridge
Congrats!
sudden creek
Thanks! All it took was a lot of poison on the shield special so that I can actually hit him!
nova narwhal
Hi Supergiant. I ❤ your games. Is Hades going to make it onto the Switch? It's become my preferred platform for indie games.
halcyon heron
"Will Hades ever come to Steam or other platforms?
We expect to bring Hades to a variety of other platforms once Early Access is complete, including Steam. That’s not for a while so we can't make any promises here yet."
nova narwhal
Ah ok
I've never really understood early access games but hope to see it available soon!
dry rover
halcyon heron
YEs
spice patrol
Woot, got my first 25 heat run in since 3rd zone patch
Think I'm finally getting the theseus part of the fight
coarse dawn
Hey devs, any plan to add localization, such like Chinese ? I saw there had some unofficial language packs. Maybe you can get in touch with them...
quaint wind
i think localization will be decided upon once the game's actually finished
halcyon heron
"What languages does the game support?
Hades currently includes English-language text and voiceover. We have menu translations in other languages, and will be looking into what else we can do for localization."
Considering how much dialog and voice acting in this game, I find it difficult to think that a smaller studio like SGG would be able to support many languages.
coarse dawn
Yep, it's difficult to do all the translations by themselves. But they can get help from fans, like creating a project on cooperative platforms.
tidal charm
Good googaly moogaly. The sanic fast boon from the fast boi plus the plume at about 30% and ignited ichor.
toxic verge
Hades is epic exclusive until full release?
olive jungle
Yes, during early access it's only on Epic
toxic verge
Ew
timid wadi
damn after about 27 hours i finally completed my first run
i didnt play it religiously but still pretty cool
chilly hare
congrats @timid wadi
blazing pewter
anyone else feels that the duo boon rooms now feel not worth going in anymore. Cause those massive effects really make me feel, nope nope nope xD
olive jungle
@cobalt maple KBM and controller are honestly about the same in terms of effectiveness - it just depends which you're more comfortable with
jolly lodge
supergiant games in general are very KBM friendly I feel, Bastion and Hades being the most KBM friendly and Pyre being the least
I have a gaming keyboard and a PS4 controller, but since I don't have a mousepad and the mouse is regular instead of gaming I just use controller
controller makes movement easier but KBM makes aiming easier imo
cobalt maple
aight, thank you
random shuttle
Wow, didn't think my feedback would be the most downvoted of all time xD (internal crying)
tepid flax
@spice patrol now if you take pierce attacks - they will ignore shields, including theseus
and with that he is super easy
light relic
I couldn't find any info on the wiki/reddit on the ||trophy cases(?)|| in the weapons picking room. would take me ages to unlock one, so can anyone give me a spoiler? my guess is ||some jank bedroom decorations|| fwiw
olive jungle
the heat rewards, you mean?
light relic
yes
vale kite
theyre ||skelly statues||
light relic
so ||bedroom decoration||?
vale kite
no theyre ||statues that decorate the training room||
light relic
alright, thanks
vernal wave
I don't have permission to post in feedback, but I thought there should be a bit more of a distance between 3 items in the charon shop. When I'm trying to be fast I can buy the wrong thing. Yes, I don't need to rush..but if there was a bit more spacing this wouldn't ever happen.
elfin sparrow
So uh...this passing through boon is a bit silly
I am just keeping them locked in essentially time freeze and just slowly and safely chipping away
fresh orchidBOT
Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old
elfin sparrow
Woops, messed with the bot
Actually I am not sure if that's a bug. Passing through seems like it should only be affecting movement and not attacks
olive jungle
Don't think it's a bug; people have left some feedback on it
vernal wave
How do you post feedback tho? Who gets permissions?
olive jungle
Check the pinned posts in that channel for instructions
vernal wave
Tnx. I'm new to discord 😃
simple locust
I'm wondering if Lambent Feather's time needs to be modified for Heat levels.
Although I could modify my pact of punishment to take off the HP modifier I suppose.
fiery skiff
Next update in 2 months, 4 biome?
void vigil
yep! It was confirmed yesterday on stream, as well as that from now on the updates will all take 2 months because supergiant found that it’s more efficient
also, it seems to be an unpopular opinion, but I don’t think all the keepsakes should be compatible with all playstyles, especially not the pierced butterfly and lambent feather which encourage a specific playstyle all by themselves
foggy kiln
Does Hermes' slow effects count as a status curse for the extra damage on the mirror upgrade?
lapis knot
where can i see the development roadmap?
chilly hare
Only place I know is ingame, I think when you click update notes it’s somewhere in there
lapis knot
@chilly hare ok, cool, thanks
cursive cape
Hi! I caught yesterday stream on VOD! Thank you so much for doing this. Having one dev point on view on a update was so informative!
hexed smelt
click the “days to next update” sign
lusty mirage
Did anyone else have an issue with orphous, when he asked for which song i want the selection menu was broken (as in you could not see which selection you were making)
spiral ridge
I haven't had that, but I've found that various menus will occasionally do that
Usually it's something like if I open a shop, close it and move off screen, and then come back and open it again
Then I'll often get graphical glitches in the menu
novel geyser
Might be a dumb question but is it not unusual to be like 50+ runs in without ever seeing Thanatos?
hexed smelt
mildly unusual, but he does have quite strict spawning requirements
humble pulsar
I've found him a lot more as of late. I wonder if his chance of spawning has increased behind the scenes.
hexed smelt
i don't know what his spawn chance is, but i could take a look and see if the requirements have changed
i'm neck-deep in god updates right now though
void vigil
bless u
onyx sigil
To the people who have played an insane amount of the update already - how often can you expect getting hermes at all somewhere in the run on average?
hexed smelt
the two runs i played last night both saw him twice
spiral ridge
You can expect him twice it seems
I guess it's kinda like hammer
I wasn't paying enough attention to note if it has the same rule on the second time always occuring in Elysium though
onyx sigil
I think I got one in tar and asph
spiral ridge
Oh yeah, first run I definitely did
So yeah, 2 but they aren't zone locked in the same way
dense sinew
Just checking: is it normal to basically get time to a stop if you use hermes dash-through-enemies-slow?
Including projectiles
blazing pewter
Yes finally finished 60 heat with all three melee weapons, now the horror of the ranged weapons start xD
novel geyser
That time slow dash thing seems kind of busted. Had a few times in my run last night where enemy AI just seemed to turn off after the slow wore off
hexed smelt
yeah, i noticed that too
then again, that run also had charm on attack from aphrodite and i'm sure that can't have helped the ai know what the heck to do either
humble pulsar
Hermes seems guaranteed to at least show up twice, like Hammers
I don't think the game forces a Hermes boon on you if you don't take it though (like it does with Hammers) so imo there's more urgency to grab the boon if you want it.
hexed smelt
i want to talk to him always ;w; i love my boy........
My Boys: hermes, thanatos, zagreus
humble pulsar
I've noticed his spawning seems more random. I've gotten him in Tartarus/Elysium Tartarus/Asphodel Asphodel/Elysium
It's not like Hammers where 90% of the time it's in Tartarus and guaranteed in Elysium
hexed smelt
the second hammer will only ever spawn in elysium
if you manage to skip a hammer throughout all of tartarus and asphodel you can get two in elysium, even
fiery skiff
Thanatos challenge is unplayable with high heat
Even with good damage and aoe you just can't deal with his 99999
mellow karma
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
It's a free room
fiery skiff
Free + lose half hp trying to kill at least 2-3 mobs
mellow karma
Don't kill run away
fiery skiff
So it's a survival challenge, got it 
mellow karma
Like the 45 second infernal trove
But it would be cool if we can compete with other characters like we compete with thanatos
hexed smelt
read the pinned messages
brazen lake
has anyone else experienced intermittent frame drops after this update?
oh dang all my roles are gone
strange tundra
Hey, is Hades similiar to Dead Cells in terms of gameplay? If you die you start from zero?
main lily
you can buy some upgrades to help you in the next playthroughs
strange tundra
But its basically roguelite game, so not anything like Bastion and Transistor, ye
void vigil
it’s very similar to bastion and transistor both in terms of how the combat feels, but it is a roguelite with metaprogression. When you die in a run you have to start it over, but you don’t start the whole game over, since it’s still a story heavy game
strange tundra
So is it endlessy replayable like Dead Cells? Since its story based, I guess its not randomized? Is it always the same?
hexed smelt
no, it's randomised each time you go on a run
novel geyser
Yeah, there's a continuing story but each run is different. Its basically a rogue-like with a story that fits in to the re-running of the game.
brazen lake
You get permanent progression in the way of relics you can equip and upgrade to a mild level and darkness that can be used to give you strict upgrades. There is a limit to how much this can help you though, at least after ||you unlock heat and use the limiter that prevents you from using all of your darkness||
the trinkets aren't negligable but they're not usually something to base your entire playstyle around either
usually
amber garden
Is there a good way to submit videos for bug reports? Dodging while inside of the house of hades appears to lock Zagreus' look location and he can do some major moonwalking
its very funny
void vigil
you can record it, upload somewhere and link it in the bug report?
amber garden
Ah good idea. Thanks 😃
amber garden
Fun moonwalk bug demo: https://youtu.be/25fiCTUGMpQ
quaint wind
wonderful
amber garden
I thought so!
hollow merlin
That's hilarious
static folio
give me a second to fail the bone hydra fight again and ill try and pull this off
graceful arch
Anyone know where’s the discord guide mentioned in the update stream?
static folio
on to Elysium for my first time
bitter cape
ok just tried to get darkness via cheat engine and it didnt work. Anyone got an Idea? Got to a point where I did everything that doesnt need obserds amounts of grind and now I wanna go full maxed
anyone has a solution?
bitter cape
could u send me the data via discord pm. Dont want to create an account for it
the file
humble pulsar
Hey, is Hades similiar to Dead Cells in terms of gameplay? If you die you start from zero?
If you're asking on "are they the same genre of game" then I'd say yes, Hades is a roguelite dungeon crawler featuring perma-death (where all the bonuses and upgrades you find in a run are lost on death and you start from scratch each time)
Hades differs drastically imo from Dead Cells though. Its less punishing for a newer player, less reliant on you maxing out your post run upgrades (mirror in Hades, things like potion charges in Dead Cells) and more reliant on you learning the game and strategically tuning your character build.
It also features a much heavier focus on narrative and character development.
I think the true way it differs from Dead Cells is how it feels. Even though death is a run reset, rarely does it feel like your time is wasted if you fail a run. There's always something to unlock, something to upgrade, a character to talk to, or a new strategy to try on the next run. Rarely does it feel grindy or tedious, it simply feels natural.
Plus its difficulty increasers are much better than Dead Cells where everything just hits much harder or inflicts poison on you.
vapid drift
unlike most roguelikes, hades feels like a game rather than a series of disjointed runs - which is what I'd really describe as the pull for it.
amber garden
The story that appears of the course of the runs makes a huge difference
It's compelling
And propelling?
humble pulsar
Story alone also gives you a reason to make certain choices in your run
Like "oh hey I want to give Patroclus a gift, lets check on him"
karmic trellis
if I switch out my hermis keepsake between regions do I lose my + % dodge?
humble pulsar
I believe so, yes
karmic trellis
ok thanks : )
stray zinc
So, the Spear
it's just, really bad
right?
Am I missing something? it feels like by far the weakest weapon. Ever worse than sword.
topaz lake
it all depends on build and preference
stray zinc
sword always feels really bad for me. good early, terrible mid/late
tepid flax
wirh sword - use athene for special and dash
and yeah, nova + double special upgrades
radiant tangle
Or, and hear me out here, World Splitter
topaz lake
hunter dash and world splitter
tepid flax
ah, got it, lol
radiant tangle
Hunter Dash doesn't work with it, you keep your normal dash attack
amber garden
I just won with spear.
topaz lake
awwww
amber garden
I like it a lot
topaz lake
that's so sad
tepid flax
+1
radiant tangle
World Splitter replaces your normal attack pattern with just the chop, but it has 80 base damage
topaz lake
so it's basically heavy slug for sword
tepid flax
@radiant tangle i know, i just can imagine how make it work
hexed smelt
world splitter was here first, thank you very much!
radiant tangle
It's been steadily getting buffed for the last three patches
tepid flax
can't*
topaz lake
yea sparrow but i play rail more than sword
radiant tangle
When each attack, with any good buff, deals over 100 damage, you don't really need a game plan
topaz lake
so for me world splitter is heavy slug but short range
radiant tangle
It's MUCH faster than heavy slug
tepid flax
guys, i've been struggling with shield and bow
vapid drift
world splitter is really good.
tepid flax
especially with the bow
topaz lake
how
tepid flax
is there any good build paths for bow`s special?
cause i can't stand it's normal attack
vapid drift
I like ares/zeus special on bow
vapid drift
they're both really good damage at range imo
topaz lake
work*
hexed smelt
uhhhhhh i've never run a bow special build in my life but there is a certain joy in yeeting enemies all the way across the room with poseidon bow attack
hexed smelt
i like picking up athena bow special for utility
vapid drift
get the piercing fire upgrade, too - it ignores shields
vapid drift
also tip: relentless barrage makes bow special take slightly more time to fire so I'd advise against getting it with athena special
tepid flax
so, most of the times you still need to play with normal attack?
radiant tangle
Poseidon bow was actually my go-to build before the Good Times update (nothing changed about the bow I just found World Splitter)
topaz lake
good times was when dio came?
vapid drift
yes. for normal attack, dash attacks are really good - you should be dashing a lot
tepid flax
i just don't understand how it is possible on high lvls, where if you stay that much - you will be dead
vapid drift
since the dash immediately fires the attack you're charging + makes the next attack come out way faster
vapid drift
it's really good with artemis dash.
tepid flax
lol D:
tepid flax
but what about charge time?
tepid flax
tried right now, you still need to charge after dash
radiant tangle
Bow's dash attack makes the attack charge faster
vapid drift
and the bow's dash attack is faster.
tepid flax
ah
vapid drift
both of these make bow surprisingly mobile, since if you're in trouble you just... dash.
tepid flax
hm, k, will try, thx
vapid drift
it does take a bit of getting used to since it's somewhat different of a play pattern than other weapons
tepid flax
i remember trying bow special + dionysus when first started, lol
vapid drift
oh, that's fun to do! I did the same thing.
it's probably not ideal but there's nothing like shooting poison arrows.
topaz lake
it's not
hexed smelt
ehhhhh
tepid flax
D:
hexed smelt
rapid shot is decent on certain builds
topaz lake
like what?
vapid drift
rapid shot is... decent. I think if you're really good at power shotting consistently/while dashing it's bad
hexed smelt
i had a good run with artemis attack and rapid shot once, that was a fun one
vapid drift
but if you're not it's a decent DPS increase since there's no charge time
topaz lake
i feel like it would be good with zues ttack as well
vapid drift
idk on the math - that's just my guess based on feel
topaz lake
but idk
tepid flax
zeus attack
rapid shot
tripe shot
hexed smelt
yeah, zeus attack rapid shot can be nice
brisk trail
I haven't really loved his attack since the Great Zeus Nerf of February
brisk trail
was about to beat Theseus and Mino for the first time, and then I accidentally gave up when I was paused ;;;(((( i cri eritim
hexed smelt
rip
tulip locust
I get the impression from Hermes' art that he never looks directly at Zagreus.
He'll like talk to him but he's always looking to where he's gonna run off to next.
hexed smelt
he bounce
flat vapor
i like to think he’s always at least running in place
brisk trail
How do you get permission to post in the hades-feedback channel?
flat vapor
look in the pins
iron solstice
anyone get a chance to try the new and returned curse of longing duo boon?
i'm curious how it feels...
merciful end is bonkers.
vapid drift
it really is.
keen wren
Hi everyone, i just bought the game today, played for 2 hours, i'm in love. This is an amazing game
brisk trail
@flat vapor thank you
coral yoke
i haven't played in ages, but im glad i did, i picked up the gun and have a neat little special build going on
golden jackal
If you buy the trinket that summons an infernal trove at the next chamber but the next one is Charon's shop, does it get negated or does it show up after?
sterile peak
it shows up the next time it is possible
golden jackal
got it, thanks 
sick tree
Okay, so considering SGG don't currently have plans to include all 12 Olympians (that's subject to change, but at time of writing, they have indicated there will be no more Gods)
Why on earth did they put Hermes in?
Don't get me wrong, I like Hermes and his boon ability was both blindingly obvious and really easy to integrate and balance, relatively speaking,
Since they already had a couple of speed boost abilities
buuut, mythologically speaking, he's the only Olympian entitled to enter and exit the underworld at will, by virtue of his role as Messenger of the Gods and as a psychopomp,
Which, in turn, means he has a totally understandable reason to remain neutral and not to give Zag any boons, even if he wants to, that none of the others do,
Since Hades could, presumably, revoke Hermes' right to come and go, if he wanted
Know what I mean?
brisk trail
Hermes shakes the game up a lot (on a nearly fundamental level). I'm sure all 12 will come in next year
golden jackal
well, wouldn't all olympians technically have access to the underworld regardless? whose to say the right for him to enter would be revoked just for helping his son?
flat vapor
i think that's a whole lot of work that hades particularly doesn't want to deal with
since y'know, hermes is kinda important in the whole delivering dead to hell thing
sick tree
I hope they all do but SGG say, quite clearly, they don't plan to, at the moment
paper peak
why did SG include one of the gods who has the most potential content for their game set in the Greek Underworld where not everything is 1:1 with agreed upon mythology
idk mang decent question though 
flat vapor
coming and going to the underworld isn't exactly a privilege, but more like a job
you probably shouldn't take away the rights of passage to one of your more important workers
sick tree
@golden jackal - Nope, Zeus and Co cannot enter the Underworld....
I mean, maybe they physically could, but Hades won't let them in, if he can help it,
Hermes (and maybe Dionysus?) is the only exception
My point is, they could easily rationalise him not being in the game, explaining why Artemis bothered to help but Apollo didn't would be harder,
same goes for Zeus but not Hera and Aphrodite but not Hepaestus
flat vapor
fun mechanics, probably
vapid drift
gimme hestia and demeter.
flat vapor
speed was a mechanic that really wasn't fully explored until now, and hermes being a sort of supportive olympian ala hammers is unique and interactive
sick tree
I'd rather they all made it in but, if they had to cut a few out,
Leaving Hermes out makes the most sense to me, narratively
does that make sense?
flat vapor
yeah i get you, but we don't know what they have planned
sick tree
We do
hollow dirge
With Hermes item not giving the tipical 15% extra chance of a rarer boon... Is it confirmed that the other God's items will be changed? It would be awesome.
sick tree
we have the roadmap
flat vapor
i meant storywise/lorewise
@hollow dirge hermes boons aren't typical olympian boons, they're treated more like hammers
you can't get more than two of them, and as to my knowledge, you can't upgrade them with poms or exchange them
so it makes since that his keepsake wouldn't be treated the same as the others
hollow dirge
So... The old keepsakes (forgot the name, called them items before) will probably stay as they are?
They are sooooo lame and have so much potential
olive jungle
the roadmap is a lot of "at least"s
it makes sense sgg would make conservative estimates
flat vapor
i also understand if they don't add all of the olympians, as well
flat vapor
that's 12 entirely different gods you have to make unique mechanics for, and you have to create a lot of boons and interactions and voice acting
olive jungle
i'm still of the opinion that the weapons are supposed to be nods to the gods that won't make it in tbh
chilly hare
I hope there will be additional content after launc hbut the voice acting scares my hopes for that
flat vapor
it's a lot of effort for a game that's supposedly coming out, what next year?
sick tree
Oh, btw, I wouldn't hold my breathe, if I were you @vapid drift - It's extremely unlikely we'll see Hestia, since she got replaced by Dionysus, in the 12 Olympians, so if he's here, she's officially been demoted to one of Hera's assistants
|| Demeter is also pretty unlikely but that's a little bit spoilery, we're not meant to talk about her here ||
😧
chilly hare
turn that frown upside down! 🙃
sick tree
I'll rotate it 45 degrees for each of the remaining Olympians that they add 🙁
@chilly hare
chilly hare
😢
sick tree
We just need Hera, Apollo, Demeter and Hepaestus~
Patrick’s boon concepts, The Fourth:
current:
Zeus - Lightning strike + chain lightning (damage to nearby target)
Poseidon - Knock-back + increased wall-slam damage + consumables
Artemis - Critical hit + more casts
Aphrodite - Weakening (reduced enemy damage)
Athena - Deflection + increased defence
Ares - curse (damage to primary target) + blade rifts
Dionysus - Blight wine (x damage over x seconds) + Festive fog (damage over time and slows?)
Hermes - increased attack speed
Alternatives:
Ares - Bleed (x damage over x seconds)
Dionysus -
Dominate mind (x% chance of turning target to your side for x seconds) (similar to Unhealthy Fixation but whatever, it suits Dionysus)
or Drunken rage (causes enemies to randomly attack anyone nearby)
or Drunken stupor (causes enemies to drunkenly stumble around instead of walking directly towards you)
or Double vision (generate an illusionary copy of Zag to distract enemies) - (x seconds cooldown)
Ad infinitum!!
Ideas for the rest:
Hera - Weakening (reduces enemy defence) or shield effect?? - I donno!!
Demeter - x% chance of summoning friendly creature to assist for x seconds or a shield effect??? - Also donno!!
Apollo - Blinding light or poison (reduces enemy speed)?
Hephaestus -
Burning (damage over x seconds) + some explosives - (kinda boring, but functional)
Or Automatons - Summons small, mechanical versions of enemies to fight with you for x seconds at a time - (silly, but not as random as it sounds, there were ancient Greek robot/statue things in the mythology)
__
Obviously you wouldn't have two summoning boon sets, that's just the ideas that leapt into my head for each
paper peak
I don't know if spreading out current boon effects to multiple deities is worth it gameplay-wise purely to add more gods lol
odd river
today i finally know why choose pomegranate as upgrades
persephone was tricked to eat pomegranate in hades which trapped her there
so the pomegranate are sacred
(got it in greek story LOL
lapis mirage
So I've plunged into the risky waters of the Epic Game Store and got Hades to support the peeps at Supergiant.
brisk trail
The only reason why I actually bought the game on EGS was because they specifically released it DRM free, so I don't need to have the client open and only need to start it once a new update is released
lapis mirage
Yep~ That's what I do~
I just opened EGL to download the game and close it. Then I launch the game with Steam for DS4 support.
half surge
I'm on holiday right now but I checked this server just to see what puns the mods came up with for their nicknames
great work as usual
olive jungle
why thank you
half surge
olive jungle
i hope i can be an inspiration to everyone to never skip leg day
half surge
<- perfection
analog ridge
@half surge u are gay?
analog ridge
@half surge u are man or woman?
half surge
a guy
analog ridge
@half surge so boys are better or a girls?
half surge
I don't think #h1-discussion is the right channel for this
thin beacon
uhh.... #off-topic-discussion maybe??
analog ridge
:(
half surge
🤔
wooden lance
does anyone know where I can find the new music?
analog ridge
@wooden lance in game
thin beacon
if youre talkin bout the than's theme its on the newsletter 👀
half surge
np
wooden lance
Nah more like the new Elysium and Asphodel stuff
which that one ship linked is one from asphodel I believe
analog ridge
Why Minotaur so hard?? Its impossible
wooden lance
The new stuff slaps so hard 
thin beacon
ohh ye its on the link ship just linked and also on sgg yt ch
wooden lance
oh wait its the exalted its from Elysium 
tidal finch
I'm kind of bummed by how impossible it is to win thanatos encounters on heat runs
half surge
At least it's basically a free room since than helps out <3
severe dust
i'm dying to see Hades out on Steam
like, Dead cells did really well, so i don't know why SG chose Epic over Steam, while imo, selling on steam would be much betta
hexed smelt
oh look it’s this conversation again
we don’t know why they chose to go with epic but the game won’t be on steam until it’s out of early access
severe dust
brazen lake
I really don't think there is a single answer possible other "more money" but SG has definitely done it in the best way out of every other company that decided on accepting the exclusivity deal
Only exclusive for the duration of early access
proper hedge
I wasn't watching other development of Hades, so can someone please tell me. How is it going? Are updates frequent? Is it reasonable to assume that Hades will be out of early access until 2020?
livid cargo
updates are pretty frequent, yeah
SGG has said they expect to be in Early Access the rest of the year
nocturne gull
So now that we have speed-related boons with Hermes
I say it's safe to assume that if we get more Olympians (although there are slim chances for this to happen now), Demeter or Apollo would have something related with healing and Hephaestus would give armor maybe?
livid cargo
potentially, but as of right now there arent any more gods on the roadmap
maybe hephaestus defies his role and gives zag milkshakes
alpine stratus
hmmm whats zags fave ice cream flavor
i wana say he eats ridiculous specialty flavors for fun like 'hot sauce' but thats not sustainable as a Favorite vhghjghj
hexed smelt
cookie dough
olive jungle
with real salmonella
hexed smelt
because that's my favourite and i like him so he gets to have my favourite
:0 cookie dough icecream won't give you salmonella!!
onyx sigil
I now want cookie dough ice cream and I blame you @hexed smelt
hexed smelt
oh same
onyx sigil
But anyway you guys are wrong I think zag is a pistachio person
onyx sigil
You know a pistachio person when you see one, and I don’t like pistachio either
livid cargo
alright so who is gonna ask about zag's favorite ice cream flavor next FAQ
onyx sigil
And you know zag has tried ice cream because charon is a fast food smuggler
Canonically obviously
alpine stratus
sisy's fave ice cream? rocky road 
strange tundra
Is there a lot of screenshake in the game? I get fairly easy headaches from screenshakes, if there are lot of screenshakes, can they be turned off?
alpine stratus
im not sure what you mean by shaking exactly? but i have found hades to be extremely harsh on the head, yeah :(( theres a lot of flashing and busyness onscreen
swift jasper
Is there something I am missing about the bow? Seems like rather low damage, while being slow.
brazen lake
every time i try out any of the new trials of the gods i just get so salty i end the run instantly
they are so ridiculously difficult compared to anything else you'll face in tartarus for example
i end up losing most of my second chances
and the reward you get is just a tiny trickle of a buff
the risk is so high but the reward is so tiny
hexed smelt
i've only stumbled into a trial where i angered dionysus and it was.............. painful
lusty wasp
strange enough now athena may be the best to avoid after having been the worst 😃
brazen lake
and its also ridiculous how large the disparity between difficulty there is between certain trials
ive only done the dionysus zeus and artemis trials so far and they go as follows: dionysus pours a constant stream of liquid death that will eventually drown you, artemis takes aim and shoots you down from above just like that copypasta about the navy seal and zeus occasionally tickles you with a negligable amountt of static electricity
pliant remnant
Seems like trials are actually harder in Tartarus. You're generally in much smaller rooms and the god attacks don't seem to take that into account. A Dio trial in tartarus literally leaves you no safe place to stand
Ares wasn't much better
brazen lake
seems that way at least
pliant remnant
I think Zeus deals comparable damage, but I got him in Asphodel and his attacks were much easier to dodge because of the wide open area
brazen lake
can we get a list of what each god does in their respective trials? zeus shoots lightning at random areas, dionysus creates pools of damaging wine that stays for a very long duration, artemis aims directly for you and is much more accurate if you move in a predictable manner
pliant remnant
Ares still creates spinning death aoes, but they're larger and more visually distinct from blade rifts
tulip locust
Cadence of Hyrule still isn't playable. AGH. Guess I'll have to just, y'know, play more Hades...
brazen lake
oh noooooooo
pliant remnant
Athena still gives invuln buffs, I'm not sure if those have been updated.
brazen lake
it seems quite in theme for her to give those buffs
pliant remnant
I haven't seen any others yet
brazen lake
she doesnt strike me as the direct damage type
or at least, insofar as she is a greek deity and therefore a massive underpants-gremlin by definition
marble sphinx
athena gives enemies invuln that causes light damage on touch
brazen lake
yeah that seems fitting
is there some kind of advance warning on which enemies get invuln or does it just happen randomly and out of nowhere?
sullen nebula
https://i.gyazo.com/3d4a5c883203ee40dd17e4ea0ec5c448.png
Reading in 4k 60FPS PogChamp
chilly stump
Recommended paired listening: gentle atmospheric piano music.
wooden condor
porz goret by yann tiersen then
not as gentle as I think you mean but does the trick for me
thin beacon
patch note asmr asjdkasljdas
alpine stratus
asmr = ahhh, storyteller's mutterings, relaxing!
flat vapor
tisiphone murder asmr
knotty ore
hey guys! longtime supergiant fan here that just found out they got a discord. I am just debating or not whether to get hades now. on the one hand supergiant seems to make the most beautiful breathtaking games I have ever played, but on the other I also think waiting for its full release might give me the best experience
do any of you guys wish you waited until it left early access?
and would you recommend getting it now?
vapid drift
not really! hades is a really solid game even if it's not technically complete yet.
the experience is that of a finished game - at least if you ignore the occasional patches, which adjust stuff.
alpine stratus
i think ea is a better experience tbh- a second undercurrent of story of slow growth and buildup you may not experience playing all at once!
vapid drift
so like. yes, I would recommend it.
knotty ore
oh I hadn’t considered that
trying to escape hell for a year might be more satisfying than escaping in 8 hours
thin beacon
i wonder whose idea was it to make logan read the patch notes.....
vapid drift
oh yeah that too - they've kinda tied the early access into the game's 'feel' atm
knotty ore
hahahah I don’t really have a problem with the patches
my fear just comes that if I see a supergiant game anything short of perfect I might have an existential crisis hahaha
vapid drift
well, if you do, it won't be this one.
knotty ore
and I was worried I would ruin the 10/10 release with the 9.5/10 year before release
but yeah tysm for your input @vapid drift @alpine stratus
I’ll probably end up getting it soon :))
alpine stratus
its unfinished the way a tv show midway through a season is unfinished
it isnt like the barebones of a house is unfinished if that makes sense
vapid drift
that's a good way to describe it.
pliant remnant
@knotty ore I normally never buy an early access game for that reason, but I've been so happy with Hades. I bought it during the last patch and aside from the missing content they've promised to deliver later (and a bit of cosmetic spit and polish) it's as good as any complete game I've played in years.
knotty ore
ty for the input hahhahaha! it seems that the fanbase of supergiant are just as wonderful as they are lmao @pliant remnant
teal dagger
Hey guys
No idea where to ask this
But who is allowed to post feedback on the "feedback" sub here
?
hexed smelt
well, the information is there
nimble glacier
- To be able to post, first visit #bot-commands and type ?rank Early Access
fresh orchidBOT
Please read the pinned message and backread in #hades-feedback so you understand the rules and avoid duplicate feedback!
teal dagger
Thanks guys
brisk trail
rip hunting blades, it was fun while it lasted
vapid drift
greatest reflex now a usable boon
elfin sparrow
That's good that they nerfed hunting blades
It was just silly
I didn't realize that marked is supposed to get removed after a successful crit?
I never assumed that based on the tooltip
hexed smelt
yeah, it's supposed to
elfin sparrow
Huh, did the tooltip suggest that and I was just not reading it closely?
brisk trail
I'm not saying Hunting Blades didn't deserve a nerf, just saying that watching those little things whipe the floor with Eternals that oh so often ruin your run was quite enjoyable
elfin sparrow
Oh yeah, it was great
It does also only say "reduced effectiveness" it very well could still be too strong
Even with damage/aoe nerf as well
brisk trail
With Hermes in the mix offering yet another possible room type, it's getting harder and harder to aim for a specific build anyway, so I don't mind certain combos erring on the stronger side.
elfin sparrow
Yeah, luckily you couldn't get hunting blades super consistently
halcyon heron
Rip hunting blades
amber garden
Fairest patch note:
General Gameplay
- Dodge passive ability from Hermes no longer works while petrified
sterile peak
hey so logan reading the patch notes is the best thing I've heard in a long time
signal spoke
it really is
elfin sparrow
Is it just me or are a bunch of people putting suggestions in feedback when that's not really the intention, since it does say not to offer solutions
Shouldn't they go in discussion?
elfin sparrow
Okay, just making sure I am understanding it right. I saw that one that got like 10 X's, but I wanted to double check before I vote another with an X
hexed smelt
Fixed a controller D-pad navigation in some contexts in the Codex
oh thank god, i thought i was losing my mind
elfin sparrow
Oh you are still stuck with a crash at startup?
celest fulcrum
did they remove the dash that deflected attack or am i just getting unlucky?
pliant remnant
They changed the name but it's still there (Divine Dash now)
strange shuttle
Wouldn't different outfits for Zag be cool in the game 😂
humble pulsar
Skins for Zag as an end game darkness/key throwaway would be sweet
strange shuttle
Or unlockable from Charon like the room items
sterile peak
"father where are my clothes"
"You'll find they are under renovations, boy."
"dad you can't just steal my clothes and sell them back to me"
alpine stratus
hades randomly taking stuff out of zags closet to like "its getting fixed"....checks out
"i took the liberty of getting your jeans fixed, boy, they were practically rags" "MY EXPENSIVE RIPPED JEANS...NOOOO"
humble pulsar
I think that would be cool but I'd prefer having them cost darkness/keys cause I'm just building up all this currency I don't really have anything to buy with.
fiery pebble
Nah he bets on your heat runs, and since you make him money when you win, you get the extra outfit free of charge
paper peak
buy more dice 
devout plinth
Zag gets default fortnite skin
paper peak
let us play as Skelly for 100k darkness
fringe lynx
Obligatory EA joke.
storm fractal
sword, deflect on special plus hammer upgrade for double special and wider special. I got like 4 or 5 pomegranates. Thunder on the attack that i didn't use. Speed on special from hermes, extra two dashes from hermes, poison dash from Dionysus.
odd river
sounds quite powerful if operating well
I never finish the game using sword
but already by the gun for 3 times
neat lion
sorry to bother but where can i post a video of a bug i found ?
amber garden
I was recommended to upload it somewhere and link it in the bug report f10 screen
odd river
idk, every time I got a bug i use f10
neat lion
aha, not sure where i can upload it
radiant tangle
If you still can, press F10 in game to report the bug. It will open a new window, send SGG all the important and relevant information in your game data, and let you type up a summary of what happened. If you can't, #h1-tech-support is probably the channel you're looking for
neat lion
yeah i can do the f10, i'll do as you said, thx
radiant tangle
👍
radiant tangle
Sword (my name is usually High Priest of World Splitter, but I've been taken over by hype)
thin beacon
is styxbot sleeping again
alpine stratus
yup, thank u
paper peak
olympus bless world splitter
I used to try for it almost exclusively before Nova got made into a usable button
static fiber
i recall my first victory way back when the game was released was with a cheesy super nova + aphrodite flourish build
they nerfed super nova something fierce though so you can't just sit in the middle of a group of enemies and mash the "y" button to a victory anymore
icy trellis
ok
paper peak
I feel like they need to make the flurry sword a little better
It's fun to use but so ineffective lol
Maybe an Ares Doom build? Try and stack them up a bunch, fish for the Aphrodite duo?
radiant tangle
It used to be 10 + 20, then they buffed blade and it would have become 20 + 25 but they preemptively nerfed it to 15 + 20, then they nerfed it back to its original strength (technically slightly stronger) of 15 + 15. It's incredibly powerful with Zeus's attack boon, and Artemis's crit boons (bc you get crits so often)
radiant tangle
Then there's no need to worry about what I said, I was just reminiscing on how Flurry Blade has changed in the past few updates
humble pulsar
Best Weapon?
A lot of people are gonna disagree with me but I'm gonna say the Rail, especially after the High Speed update.
Perks the rail has going for it:
- Piercing Fire to cheese shields
- Some of the best hammer upgrades in the game tbh, I can't think of a single negative hammer upgrade on the Rail. Flurry Fire and Spread Fire bring your damage up considerably, Heavy Slug is immensely powerful, Explosive Bullets gives AoE and stagger, and both Bomb Specials can be very powerful in the right builds.
- An amazing Crowd Control Special that does some very good damage especially if you work around Boiling Blood or Privileged Status. It can also get behind shield bois.
Its cons would be:
- Slightly lower non-hammer damage due to reload and lower bullet damage.
- Immobile while firing but you can now immediately cancel firing to dash so that has helped a lot.
- Lack of stagger/stun on the Rail without Explosive Fire or Heavy Slug. This can take lots of adjusting to and its probably why lots of people dont like the rail.
I do think all the weapons are very similarly powered though, which means what people think is the "best" weapon will likely come down to personal preference.
paper peak
An amazing thing I've noticed with Hades is that so many people in this server have wildly different opinions on the weapons
discussions about Bastion have been similar but not to this degree
brisk trail
Supergiant balances their games better than almost anyone else, change my mind.
The Shield is ridiculously powerful. With Dashing Wallop and Hunter's Dash, just two Boons, you've got one of the premier crowd clearers in the entire game.
Frankly, better than Triple Bomb, because the delay can really hurt you against faster enemies.
Triple Bomb has better DPS, of course.
humble pulsar
The Rail is probably what I would call the most strategic weapon. It requires a lot of setup and proper positioning to use really well.
You gotta place bombs in the right spot and stand at just far enough away to do good damage but not get jumped.
And you have to reposition a lot.
I think the reason people have so many different opinions on the weapons is that they're all pretty viable tbh. I personally hate the bow, but its a good weapon. I just don't like how slow it makes me.
static fiber
i generally pick whatever's the 10% darkness bonus, but shield just feels like you're invincible all the time that matters, and spear lets you basically stunlock crowds with the correct positioning on top of the spin attack being great at dealing with spawning enemies
i don't play with the "first hit doesn't count" heat curse though so that might change things
the other weapons are great too but generally they're more restrictive on viable builds - you want something that makes use of the rail's high rate of fire, or makes nova nutty, or lets you evade better so you can plink with arrows from afar
humble pulsar
alternatively, heavy slug works well with Doom from Ares.
as well as Poseidon knockback
heavy slug usually tailors itself better though in a build with some really good casts
somber tusk
completed my first run yesterday with a heavy slug and tripple crit bombs in 33 minutes
silent flume
The Exalted in the soul catcher fight just reked me hard... 60 heat spear run through was going great, 5 death defiances, heroic Ares wraith... and then I was just destroyed...
rotund finch
Yeah I'm really not feeling the change to making them elites lol
silent flume
neither am I
especially with weapons like spear, which can't really take care of mobs with the layout of the room
marble sphinx
feels like you're kind of boned if you manage to make it to elysium without a good anti-armour
silent flume
I agree with that, but only on certain weapons
marble sphinx
blade rifts are a decent discount anti-armour
silent flume
bow, spear, and sheild really need anti-armor because they kinda need to burst through people one at a time
sword, and rail feel fine even without anti-armor
marble sphinx
rail also depends imo.shotgun suffers without anti armour
but heavy slug does fine, yeah
strange cradle
I've now got 6 rolls of the dice and almost got my boon boosts all the way back
Looking at that 20k darkness for the 7th die with 0 fear
I'm playing with 15-25 heat most runs but I guess it's time to turn it up again if I'm getting 1000 darkness in a night without breaking a sweat thanks to Chaos 💗
balmy gazelle
Hey, are effects like poison able to crit?
odd river
yes if you take the artemis boon "any damage have a chance to crit"
balmy gazelle
thank you :)
silent flume
hey is there a mob that can charm?
because I have no charm, and only deflects and the last strongbow in this room is forever charmed
okay... in this same run me and Thes. just kinda
died at the same time
like on my game over screen it him also just fading away as he does
game overall considered it a failed run
peak charm
What is the 6th weapon square in the weapons room going to have in it?
I keep hoping each update there will be a new weapon in that square for me to buy
silent flume
read the road map
next up with the 4th biome, but the weapon should come at some point
although it you want to speculate, I'd have to guess that a slower weapon would be in there
simply because there isn't a weapon that feels heavy or slow, which could lead to a high risk, but high dmg play style, were the weapon forces you to stand still, but does a lot more then the others
fiery pebble
We dont know for sure
But Scythe is quite likely
Its gonna be Demeters weapon, after all
marble sphinx
what makes you say that?
and wouldn't a scythe be a bit too close to the sword?
personally, my money is on a naphtha thrower of some kind
astral lagoon
s c y th e
waxen maple
scythe is a good option too
brisk trail
and play with 2 daggers ? maybe like sword gameplay but more attack per second ^^ or a whip
vapid drift
tiny, short-ranged weapon... sickle.
brisk trail
2 sickle ? 
lusty mirage
Gauntlets could be an option. Very Greek/Roman themed and could have a combo system. Mixing normal and special attacks to do a string of attacks
uncut leaf
imagine ||Than's|| reaction if you waltzed into tartarus with a scythe
"my brand......"
stoic osprey
I'd like to see something snappy and quick (daggers or gauntlets), or something big with slow windups + huge damage (2-handed axe, scythe, or hammer).
Well, "slow" compared to the rest of the weapons, that is. Can't have it too sluggish or it wouldn't sync with combat too well.
hexed smelt
magic 👏 weapon 👏 please
vital belfry
I'm on team magic, personally.
somber tusk
slow weapons would need some kind of armor on swing because some of the enemies are way too fast towards the end
balmy gazelle
I'd like daggers that could rely on backstabs and quick attacks, maybe even bring a boon that gives lifesteal on backstabs. That would make for some quick gameplay that needs more attention than shield or sword
sterile peak
magic gang magic gang
hexed smelt
magic!!!!
radiant tangle
Quick slashy melee weapon would be awesome, Magic would be SO COOL
hexed smelt
high five to all the people who are Obviously Correct
vale kite
i want zag to have a whip just to flex on the furies
alpine stratus
i want zag to turn into a car to flex on the nemean chariots
vale kite
zag the train
alpine stratus
yes
fiery pebble
Why not Scythe with magic
stoic osprey
That's kinda what I was gonna say. It could be any number of weapons but also magic.
somber tusk
Hyper fists
thin beacon
replace the wrath chime to train noises
fiery pebble
Yeah, thats why I picked it over the Biggie smalls remix
Also because Zag would totally listen to Panic! At the disco
knotty ore
hey guys possible bug here, when I reloaded my game I can still give ambrosia to everyone I gave it to before
but when I do I get nothing
and yeah I got the game :)))
royal hazel
are we allowed to stream gameplay of hades on, say, twitch?
in-game!
royal hazel
thanks for the quick response!
knotty ore
thanks! and did
red charm
wouw so many patches as of late devs working hard! good job!
amber garden
Yeah they usually come up fast and furious after a large update.
brisk trail
Zagreus just called the Megagorgon and Skull-Crusher his favorite power couple.
halcyon heron
Well him and Meg ain't doin so hot
cursive cradle
are each room randomized? part of me kind of wishes they are. or like end game content.
halcyon heron
I don't believe so. I think each room has a layout (there are X amount of chambers). I'm unsure if the enemy set is also randomized. Exceptions are the mini boss rooms or raft ride.
brisk trail
Claw, why would you hurt me like that?
halcyon heron
I mean, it's not a spoiler. The minute you meet Meg you can tell there is a history between the two of them.
brisk trail
Yeah, but I'm still holding out for a golden ending.
olive jungle
keep holding, lol
brisk trail
RIP the dream.
halcyon heron
So in the journal it says: "Have 999 more conversations with hades to learn more". Is this just some insanely high number, or is there a huge depth of content between him and Zag? I mostly get him telling me to sod off.
olive jungle
nah it's just there to taunt you
olive jungle
there are a couple extra codex lines but don't bother if you dont want, they're on the wiki
halcyon heron
I wonder if the whole "locked ambrosia" thing is also there to taunt you
flat vapor
no those are just under development
halcyon heron
I mean with Hades specifically
I know everyone else it's under development
It's sorta charming that you start off with a bunch of hearts with the dog.
olive jungle
cerberus is a good boyboyboy who loves us very much
halcyon heron
Think, I would be able to use an entire tennis ball container for one dog!
and not just have an extra 2 tennis balls that I wouldn't know what to do with.
olive jungle
all tennis ball containers were actually designed for cerberus, you've cracked the code
cursive cradle
yo just played for the first time. this game is hype!
olive jungle
humble pulsar
On the topic of Cerberus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/510610961846239244/589281761113014272/tumblr_pp7drjRbjC1wjm5flo1_540.png
This was posted in another discord I was in
And it feels relevant
dense sail
hahahahaha
cyan plank
can anyone provide me a screenshot of Hypnos updated character Art? I need it for a paper I'm writing and forgot to take one at home, whoops ^^
cyan plank
oh nice ! guess I overlooked it got updated 😄 thanks
wooden grail
I really like the improved flow of combat. The bow feels nicer to use, and overall the game feels more survivable because of the fluidity of the faster animations. I actually made it to the second zone! Not sure if this belongs here or in feedback, but since I can't post in feedback felt I'd offer it here.
olive jungle
Either is fine! If you'd like to post in feedback, check the pinned post there for rules and access.
empty garden
I have a quesion, and I couldn't find the answer: does the game have some kind a button, like Bastion, that when you click it will target the nearest target? In Bastion, on pc, you hit Shift key and it would do that. If you could have something like that for Hades it would be awesome. Especially when playing with a controller
olive jungle
There's an auto-aim function, but no "lock-on"
empty garden
Yea I know. Just asking because for me auto-aim isn't all that great, you lose some freedom when using some weapons like the bow. Maybe a "lock-on" button would be overkill in this game 😄
silent flume
finite ivy
Looking forward to the winter months now also because my old computer sometimes can't handle when the game gets too intense these days. 😄 I will also try running it in window mode.
void vigil
oh my god he HAS been norted
hexed smelt
nort a boy
paper peak
regal pagoda
Hypnos' Face is the face of someone who only has your misfortune in mind
and enjoys the thought
brisk trail
as long as he’s happy 
regal pagoda
He should be after I had to stomp the freaking hornman just to get him an autograph
still badge
i got a question. if i stack hermes relic and then i switch it with another one after the boss fight do i have the dodge chance or not anymore?
vapid drift
you will not.
still badge
ok ty
granite pecan
What did Hypnos look like before? I would need a side-by-side comparison to figure out the changes
halcyon heron
If you look at that file link it shows
hexed smelt
yeah
halcyon heron
hexed smelt
specifically, he has shoulderpads shaped like thanatos's, yellow eyes, and a slightly redder skintone
hexed smelt
purple? i'm not really seeing it...
halcyon heron
you look at the hand between the two
before there was a greenish hue
it's very subtle differences
paper peak
I love his little sleeping mask so much
void vigil
i swear hes purple now
hexed smelt
it's........ hm
livid cargo
Hypnos purple? Welcome hypnos to the sgg discord mod team
hexed smelt
halcyon heron
drag the slider specfically to his right hand (your left) right down the middle and you can see the hue change if you look carefully, have a good monitor, and aren't some sort of colorblind
hexed smelt
the underlying shading hasn't changed, which.... bothers me, honestly, because it's still the same sort of blueish colour he was before
livid cargo
Maybe he just got a bit better sleep
hexed smelt
a slightly better look
so yeah - his face is purple-ish instead of teal-ish, and his hands have gone from green to red, but his shading is still blue/green
halcyon heron
what software is that you're using?
hexed smelt
photoshop
i just eyedroppered each point and then took a picture of the colour picker...
stoic osprey
The shoulderpads are def an improvement
His eyes make me laugh, tho
He looks high XD
thin beacon
he needs more sleep 😔
regal pagoda
Being honest, I never understood gaming worlds obsession with shoulder pads
Maybe because I have a history of playing World of Warcraft, the arguably most ridiculous game regarding that kind of equibment
onyx sigil
My best guess is that shoulder pads visually look good
With the whole “wide shoulders” shtick
mellow karma
It makes armor look bad ass
Eg
Shoulder pads that look like dragons
Spikey shoulder bads
Shoulder bad on one shoulder
topaz lake
artemis really loves me
i got epic hunterdash and epic deadly strike
@hexed smelt hey dude just an fyi for the wiki you don't need true shot to get burst shot on artemis
hexed smelt
they appear to have expanded the boon list for that one and i hadn't noticed
this also reminds me that i forgot to update the boon requirement tables to account for the new status boons anyway
hexed smelt
oh, i meant 'new' as in 'from the beefy update, except i added them to the boon table and forgot about the requirements table'
topaz lake
ah
low phoenix
hey, can anyone tell me why some interaction hearts are locked?
do i need to talk more times to them, give more ambrosia? what?
stray knoll
any clue when the new song from the latest patch will be up on the youtube channel? I love the ost of the game and have been dying to hear it
restive yoke
Neat
@stray knoll they usually upload the songs a few days after they're added in game
From what I've noticed
I LOVE the new Thanatos track
flat vapor
(subscribers to the blast newsletter get them early)
flat vapor
stray knoll
done
flat vapor
there's usually an email every major update
elder beacon
snagged hades before the egs sale ended. just started playing this morning and fell hard in love with it
gritty cloud
Thanatos's new track is my life, the ringing bells(?) at the very beginning are just, (chef kiss)
It's just different enough from the rest of the soundtrack that it's basically unforgettable
olive jungle
how very death knell of him, haha
static fiber
it sounds enough like forbidden knowledge that you can kind of imagine you're talking to the best character in pyre's cast again
olive jungle
the harpsichord reminds me of forbidden knowledge, from the pyre soundtrack
haha same hat
brisk trail
We talking about Volfred?
olive jungle
we'd better be lol
brisk trail
I played through Pyre enough to get the final ending and then I haven't played it since.
static fiber
very in spirit with the whole "accepting your choices" message
but certain plan is volfred's theme, not forbidden knowledge
light thistle
Finally, my first Theseus kill, even if it was kind of ugly and a hell of a mix for a build >_>
tulip lava
you know what i want to see
an improbab amount of exalteds coming out of a chariot like it's a clown car
where are my elysium clown chariots
winged relic
I wonder what amphitrite will have for a role in this game
Not even sure if they are going to add all the gods/goddesses
sterile peak
more than likely not
roadmap only has one more olympian planned iirc, although that's not to say they won't add more
feral leaf
If thats the case Id hope its Apollo
sterile peak
I think it probably will be, although that's #h1-story-discussion discussion
green compass
I just want some kind of multiplayer for hades
waxen maple
that would be amazing
peak crest
Hey guys! How big was the high speed update?
flat vapor
new god, new keepsake, new foes, new boons, and a lot of rebalancing
sullen nebula
1.57 GB it shows me
wooden stratus
Is it just me, or does the "alter" ability almost always change to low-tier prizes? I've been using it for a while, and yesterday was the first time I saw it change to anything other than darkness, key, or heat
hexed smelt
no problem
wooden stratus
Ah, I must've been. I never knew there were different categories of rewards
hexed smelt
it's a little inaccurate so far as shops are concerned but i wanted something easy to point to as a resource
flat vapor
yeah, it's not obvious at first glance
hexed smelt
but yeah - check the laurels on either side of the door, those leafy sort of shapes
it'll tell you which pool the reward is in
flat vapor
maybe skelly should have a hint convo about it
hexed smelt
it's out of date already since hermes isn't on there i guess
flat vapor
😔
wooden stratus
I see them, thanks!
uncut leaf
Things I’ve noticed about the rerolls - the centaur hearts almost always tend to roll into coin. Not sure if there are any other trends in the gold tier section, though
teal dagger
I feel like since The High Speed update, Artemis crit path isn't really what it used to be
The +%dmg seems too low to be worth
halcyon heron
Is there a place to hear the soundtrack? I'm usually trying to beat Thanatos and not listening to the music
sterile peak
it's also all on youtube and spotify
opal ferry
how is one meant to use the bow? it feels like it doesn't do enough damage
marble sphinx
the power shot helps with the damage i find
if you use the dash attack the charge time is also reduced significantly
vapid drift
constant dash>dash attack>dash again chains work pretty well
flat vapor
alternatively, the special has great shotgun potential
opal ferry
ooh i'll give the dash attack a try. i like to use the special with like, doom or sick but it depends on if i get the chance for that 😔
wooden stratus
Does the slow caused by Hermes' Passing Through and Relative Speed boons count as a "Status Curse" for Privileged Status?
olive jungle
Nope
wooden stratus
Kk thanks
Also, does the mouseover for these explain that slowed enemies both move and attack slower? I assumed it was movement only until I actually took Passing Through and saw it work
wooden stratus
Also also, is there a way to examine your Mirror and/or Pact settings mid-run? I can't find one, I'd expect to see it somewhere when I hit Tab
spark beacon
there is no way to do that at the moment
wooden stratus
thanks, I now see Morbid Wisp's hades-feedback post about it from May 22, so I went back and upvoted it
ebon sail
just had my first clear ever
never managed to beat hydra
but with rail, watching some replays on youtube, and using a focus on Special (triple bombs from daedalus are marvelous) managed to beat both Aeterius mid boss and both heroes together at the end
amber garden
Congrats @ebon sail!
coral swallow
acoustic oriole
today i triggered a discussion among Ares and Aphrodite and some time ago i triggered a discussion among Athena and Artemis(if i remember correctly). Is there a list of those discussions because i really enjoy the gods' interaction!
olive jungle
i think as of right now there's basically one per duo boon
hexed smelt
not quite
zeus&artemis, aphrodite&dionysus, and artemis&ares are still missing their conversations
keen wren
After 24 painful death i finally finished two runs in a row !! felt so good to smashed that pompus theseus face, thanks to my trusted sword ! can't wait for new content !!!
alpine stratus
🎉 nice!!!
keen wren
also, Zag mentions Heracles at some point, is he going to be in the game...? cause that would be amazing(ly painfull)
elder flax
Dad made it sound like heracles was less than cooperative
keen wren
hahaha
livid cargo
heracles is actually the wretched broker and he's wearing a fat suit
woeful lotus
nah he just got fat and lazy after his trials 😛
lapis nova
We still have three more Olympian Gods to add before we can waste time on Heracles 😛
vale kite
lil' hades and lil' hermes
brisk trail
@lapis nova According to the roadmap the goal is to have 7 olympian gods by the end of the year. #7 has just been added. There is still 1 biome, 1 boss, and 1 weapon missing, so I'd expect those before any other olympians show up (at least olympians that provide boons)
lapis nova
Oh, I wasn't being serious about the road map. I was just joking about Greek mythology.
And obviously I'm incorrect anyway. They've added a multitude of bit players and we haven't hit the 12 Olympians.
regal pagoda
Where can I find the road map?
flat vapor
bottom right corner, has the timer on it (XX days)
halcyon heron
I only really care about Apollo being in. I would feel very sad if he didn't make it to Retail.
sullen nebula
Are we screwing Apollo
regal pagoda
I played Smite long enough to have had enough of that smug scum of a gun
sterile peak
apollo is probably like poseidon without the friendliness
tulip lava
apollo is a hipster
raw dock
If he isn't a pretensious hipster then what's the point (pretty sure Rick Riordan's Apollo is coloring my perception)
woeful lotus
dont really get hipster for RR's apollo
tulip lava
apollo: anyways here's wonderwall
regal pagoda
That asidel, boon wise, Apollo would fit right in with his sun-theme.
Could have burning and blinding effects
tulip lava
i said maybe~ you're gonna be the one that slays me
and tie my corpse~ behind your horse~
i said maybe~ you're gonna be the one that drags me
three times around~ the city's walls~
humble pulsar
i feel inclined to get a mouth moods wonderwall parody here now
lean ferry
so... the heroic boons are fun
just got a 120 heroic ares m1 boon on the first run ive done since the update, and ended up with the dash speed boost from hermes, so that ended up kinda interesting
also, just saw one of those green ghost dudes come out of the Forbidden Room
dude just phased through from the other side, which is pretty funny considering you arent allowed in there yet
alpine stratus
he snuck in and you tell on him? smh 😔
mellow vault
I'm sure this has been suggested 1000 times, but story-wise, Demeter would be a great addition
lusty mirage
So does anyone have any idea on how to actually beat Thanatos in his challenges? For me he usually gets double my kills
olive jungle
Depends; I can usually beat him reliably in Tartarus, and a little less reliably in Asphodel depending on his spawns
in Elysium I usually stop trying but, with the new hotwheels enemies you can focus on those, witches, and wiping out the exalted souls because those count as their own kill
hexed smelt
if you have knockback, that can be useful to kick stuff out of death sentence before it goes off
glass socket
Woohoo got my fastest (and luckiest) run yet at 24:44.24!
Heroic boon are pretty powerfull
cursive cradle
are ambrosia gifts permanent upgrades?
olive jungle
They permanently give you more favor with a character, yes
cursive cradle
gotcha
olive jungle
There's no gameplay impact past the first gift though
cursive cradle
thank you
hmm i feel like it would be fun if there was, and show "hey you have upgraded x number of times"
thanks gagain
lusty mirage
I’m hoarding the ambrosia, using them as currently in the trading center
olive jungle
Worth pointing out that while there's no combat advantage or whatever, there are a number of conversations you can't have unless you've given more gifts, and characters' tones towards you will change as you get closer to them
If that's something you enjoy
spring cipher
cursive cradle
ok so if giving multiple gifts" doesnt do anything, why does it give you the option? pm me, since im currently playing thank!
gaunt bane
what do u mean "doesn't do anything"
you win friendship
which is the most op of all
cursive cradle
i know, but I though you said you can only do it once per each character, but it still gives you the option to do it again so I don't want to waste them.
alpine stratus
nope! you can gift as long as it allows you to.
gaunt bane
with every gift ur relationship gets stronger
cursive cradle
oh i totally misunderstood you. thought it was a 1 time deal...
sooo. scattershot is op and i got a +1 charge from chaos. love it
scenic notch
how are you supposed to deal with the pink butterfly spawner enemies?
blazing palm
Kill them lul
vital belfry
Use safe attacks from afar or spam attacks to clear out the projectiles as you attack.
blazing palm
Sword special kills butterflies so you just use it when they are about to hit.
Spear everything kills butterflies, so you just poke it constantly with special or autos, and spin if necessary
Shield you just charge, like usual.
Bow you have to use special occasionally to clear butterflies, then just spam autos until it dies
Gun run around using special and weave in autos to clear butterflies
scenic notch
Is there an agreed upon best weapon?
olive jungle
They all have their strengths and weaknesses right now tbh
vital belfry
they're all fairly turned to playstyle
olive jungle
they all have the potential to be pretty OP
vital belfry
and sometimes you dont even need a weapon to be considered OP
tardy grove
Have you tried using the shield with Poseidon's attack buff?
vital belfry
shield is definitely the safest option currently, but i highly recommend sticking with what you're comfortable with
vapid drift
I think the sword has the best flow of any weapon but loses out to other weapons in some ways
like range.
mostly range, actually. giant gorgon head please.
tardy grove
Well if you can get deflect on anything (except your cast) that fight is pretty easy with a sword
cursive cradle
whelp\ all my viewers left. man this game is so much fun. worth every penny. i don't want to know what it is, but i want a yes or no answer if there is any form of an endgame content.
indigo lark
there is yes
cursive cradle
oh damn. hype!!!
tardy grove
Wait you streaming?
tardy grove
#self-promotion If you want
cursive cradle
ok i got that and posted my link. how to I send feedback?
or I could just say my comments here
tardy grove
@cursive cradle #bot-commands and do ?rank Early Access
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cursive cradle
im really confused at how to voice my opinion, even though I love this game. should I just share here? or is there a better way to reach the dev's?
tardy grove
(check your dms)
flat vapor
check the pins in feedback
cursive cradle
bathroom success. intellectual level after drinking. fail.
i figured it out though
cursive cradle
its fine its only a thought, everything feels smooth, it was only a naming concern. just felt something called special meant higher risk higher reward.
I keep forgetting to spend a gift for boons, would having the option during selecting a boon be too strong?
Ok keep forgetting that special charges wrath.
quasi sleet
i think it'd be weird thematically if you could randomly gift the gods whenever
but i feel ya, it took me like 4 hermes tokens to finally remember
cursive cradle
im not saying whenever, im saying once you hit e on someone, there is a selection up at the top saying give a gift. thats all.
minor pecan
yes
vast junco
just take a look at their little kitty faces
cyan skiff
i'm too busy running away from them XD
brisk trail
The larger chariot is based on the Nemean Lion. They made the small chariots exploding kittens.
cyan skiff
i guess that makes sense xD
elder flax
That's amazing, I love the devs
cyan skiff
gonna post here as well, but cast builds are so much more viable with hermes now in the game and i love it
minor pecan
nyoom
brisk trail
Damn.
Okay, so between that and Hunting Blades, are Cast builds the strongest in the game?
I got a Splitting Bolt Flurry Blade run a few days ago that was pretty nasty, but holy schnikes you deleted those two.
hidden cargo
livid cargo
cast cast cast i gotta step on the cast
brisk trail
Last patch nerfed Hunting Blades pretty badly. They are still somewhat viable, but you essentially need 2-3 extra "supporting" boons to bring them back to "classic" levels of efficiency. Without Hermes cast speed increase Hunting Blades now waste quite a lot of time tracking their targets. Throw in Ares' legendary for some extra damage and possibily a bit of extra cast damage from master chaos and you can still cause a lot of havoc with Hunting Blades though.
woeful lotus
id say the current state is pretty reasonable
its still strong and honestly if you pick it up you already want to go that route anyway
brisk trail
Yeah, it was nerfed from "Instant Win" (I still got cheesed by Theseus once with them, don't look at me) to "Very strong build".
brisk trail
What about Vicious Cycle?
granite pecan
i had one run with vicious cycle before hunting blades got nerfed
the last fight was....silly
within SECONDS the pair was hitting their half-health invuln states. a few more seconds and both were gone
brisk trail
I got that right after High Speed came out. Definitely the strongest run I've ever had.
topaz lake
I feel like zeus hates me
lean ferry
hunting blades?
agile hearth
Might be a question already answered, but are we allowed to stream Hades?
vapid drift
yes.
agile hearth
Awesome! Thank you!
balmy valve
So I recently attempted my first 60 Heat run and it was a miserable, awful slog that I was just barely good and lucky enough to get through until I reached the final boss fight of Elysium, where I was very ceremoniously slain. "Toil" is a really great way to describe it. @_@