The Longest Con
#h1-discussion
flat vapor
he's his own funder
flat vapor
awful, yet perfect
rustic pecan
Plus he gets to double-dip the Ambrosia gifts
shut garnet
Is the Feedback channel also for suggestions?
(I have to admit I'm weary of the voting system because I see it get abused by cliques in other discords)
alpine stratus
what kind of suggestions?
the feedback channel is for the hades game only- general server stuff etc goes in #server-suggestions
shut garnet
Yeah, I mean for suggestions for features, etc., to add to Hades
prisma wind
I think the voting has been fairly representative of people's shared experience, I haven't personally seen any indication that it's being or has been abused
viscid badger
Hey! Loving the game and just wanted to ask if there are any plans to add any kind of unlockable cosmetics in the game
hasty robin
Is there somewhere to check how many runs you've won/with what weapons? Something like the endgame screen?
prisma wind
Not at the moment, no
I know it's a feature that has been requested, but I don't know if it's something that they plan to add in
steady grove
Omg, I just gave this game a try and it's so good
I love the art, music, animations, story
Can't wait for the next update!
prisma wind
Glad you're enjoying it! It's a lot of fun
solid canopy
always nice to see people getting into it!! it's amazing
fringe ivy
Finally beat my first full run since getting it on Friday. Kudos to SG, for making another greatgame I will obsess over!
prisma wind
Congrats!
fringe ivy
Thanks! I hope I can add to the discussion and feedback for the gam!
shut garnet
@vale drift
On a run today, I found that there are cosmetics/decorations we can buy for Zag's room. It got me thinking-
How about instead of buying decorations to make a neat, pretty room for him, we buy the decorations to make his room even more cluttered and messy?
Let's say there's an event where Hades sends a butler-wraith to clean Zag's room while he's off trying to escape. The room is now spotless and organized. But Zag aint having none of that!
This event is what triggers decorations to start appearing in the Shops, that way we find out about decorations in an interesting way instead of just stumbling into a saucy poster (wall-scroll?) of Dionysus or whatever haha
granite pecan
now i want a saucy dionysus poster
shut garnet
Charon always has them in stock, it's his #1 seller!
olive jungle
but where does charon get them ๐ค
jolly ivy
From Dionysus
tulip lava
i want a saucy dionysus wall-scroll
shut garnet
Oh, and they're hand-painted saucy wall-scrolls, so I wonder who's painting them?
eyeballs Charon
olive jungle
the maenads
olive jungle
the posters were actually just confiscated from maenads coming down to the underworld gkdfjgd
tulip lava
i'd be an art maenad i think
granite pecan
what do you think charon spends that money on? dio portraits
tulip lava
the other maenads would be like "yo we're all extra feral today want to go dismember people" and i'll be like "mmm nah but i might ink without a sketch layer first"
feeling absolutely hogwild might not flip the canvas
olive jungle
do all your coloring on one layer
tulip lava
wow that level of madness has to be reserved for the bacchanalia
olive jungle
n o s t a b i l i z e r
shut garnet
We're hedonists, we dont believe in perfect circles
granite pecan
never use ctrl + z
alpine stratus
jfncncncmfnfn i wanna go to the baccanartia and draw with no ctrl-z
onyx minnow
can someone post the image of the serveur not the emblem of the discord the behind the name of the serveur !
???
crimson walrus
I think they should add a bestiary for all the boons and duo boons as you collect them.
onyx minnow
yes maybe !
gleaming timber
Is there a native way to show FPS in Hades or Epic?
prisma wind
Not currently
gleaming timber
Okay thanks :D
brisk trail
Will Hades be available to purchase on Steam?
vast junco
once it is finished and no longer in early access, yes
brisk trail
Thank you. Can't wait for it come to steam.
solid canopy
it'll probably be a while ):
brisk trail
I'll wait to get my fix of a good Rouge like. :)
amber garden
There are some good builds for sure, but due to the randomness of the game, everything has to be minimally effective.
void vigil
this kind of thing is better discussed in #h1-builds-and-combat, lets move there?
trail raven
omg so sorry โค
void vigil
no need to apologize :>
cobalt lava
hey I don't know if this has been asked before but I'm a brand new twitch streamer who's interested in looking into a review copy for Hades.. is that possible right now or is the paid early access the only way to try it out? I'm fine either way just curious if the question's been asked?
solid canopy
jus buy it maaan
prisma wind
I haven't seen anyone ask, but typically you would contact the devs directly for something like that
shut garnet
I'm finding that peeps have a bizarre reluctance to buy stuff from the Epic Games Store
I've mentioned buying this game to a few people and most of them scoff and start talking trash about the EGS. I don't get it, is it trendy to hate it?
Someone said they don't approve of EG's labor practices, which okay, I can repect that, but most just start hurling memes and junk lol
plucky dagger
They don't understand that competition in the marketplace is a good thing for consumers. They want Steam to have a permanent monopoly on the industry. I don't get it either.
solid canopy
epic just doesnโt have as complete features as steam
they dint even have cloudsaves yet
alpine stratus
hey, epic discussion is #off-topic-discussion please!
fallen venture
picked up hades a couple of days ago and I'm loving it, can't wait to see the game finished
stray zinc
Anyone else noticed the weirdness where Zag refers to Orpheus as "He hasn't changed a bit" when Orpheus is clearly voiced by a woman? I just ran into that lol
chilly stump
Actually, Orpheus isn't voiced by a woman! You can check out the voice cast in the credits. ๐
chilly stump
Really really! He's actually voiced by @atomic flame ! Can go into the booth, smash a few lines, then immediately return to handling our taxes like it's nothing. ๐ช
stray zinc
Well while I've got your ear, I just wanted to say that the writing and voice acting in Hades is absolutely phenomenal, one of my favorite parts of the game. I'm really particular about wooden writing or bad acting, it just ruins the experience for me. But everything in this is like it's out of a really well made tv show or a great book. Absolutely wonderful, it really draws you in more than any gameplay alone could.
@chilly stump
chilly stump
Thank you very much!!! It's wonderful to hear that we meet that! Greg and Darren and our voice cast work really hard to keep our world cohesive and believable, so it's always great to hear when we accomplish that for people. ๐ ๐
stray zinc
your writers definitely just get it. Really excited to hear more of their work, probably going to play through Transistor just to hear more of it.
brazen stone
Damn... Just booted up and my save says last played in February
I didn't think it'd been that long ๐
olive jungle
Welcome back!
livid cargo
Not as of most recent major update, no
vast junco
dash has been reworked a bit
prisma wind
New dash > old dash
vast junco
you won't miss the third dash as much as you might think you would
brazen stone
It looks pretty fresh
Interesting that it seems to slightly punish spam too now
3 new boons to find ๐ฎ
Some nice QoL updates to the UI sweet
I'm guessing Artemis dash boon no longer the "in" OP choice? ๐
prisma wind
Athena dash is very good now
brazen stone
loving the boon menu - way better than the old one
slick as hell
๐
I've missed this game โค
I sorta half read a thing that popped up at the start of my run - to do with Rage or something? And I see I've got a bar that builds up under health
I'll be honest I've got no clue what that is?
fossil lintel
Hi~ I have a question! Elysium is the real final content of the Hades? or more level is planned in the future?
olive jungle
One more biome is planned - you can check the roadmap in game by clicking the update countdown timer in the bottom right
Braxzy, that's Wrath! It's a burst powerup that charges based on how much damage you're dealing and taking.
You can only have one Wrath boon - like attack or special or dash boons - and some of them can be used with half the wrath bar, while others require the whole thing
brazen stone
Ah gotcha, so is that given at the start of every run at random?
olive jungle
No, you receive it from the gods randomly like any other boon
The introduction of it to pre-Wrath players was a scripted event
to make sure we understood it had been added to the game
brazen stone
Riiiiiight okay that makes sense
Yeah I got that scripted intro then
One last question... which god have I annoyed because I am getting 0 healing from everything D:
olive jungle
Do you have heat turned on in the pact of punishment?
brazen stone
I've got 15 heat on, I didn't check it before I started
olive jungle
You probably turned your healing off
brazen stone
I must've done that by mistake or something last time I played because there's no way I'd punish myself like this ๐
life
fossil lintel
@olive jungle Thanks!!
brazen stone
Eyy first run back and I've beat hydra ๐
even with no hp regain
New biome time!
brazen stone
You're not wrong whew it's gorgeous ๐ the new enemies are dope too! Super happy
(What are those blobs trying to do when I kill the dudes? Respawn? I don't want to risk waiting to find out)
vast junco
haha yeah, they go towards fallen weapons to respawn
prisma wind
Zag will warn you with a vocal cue when one of the Exalted Souls is trying to respawn
brazen stone
Stupid blocked healing ๐ข I probs coulda gone all the way haha
prisma wind
Fear not BraXzy, you can see Asterius both as a mid-boss and together with the end boss
brazen stone
Well I'm happy with the updates since I last played anyway, all seems like great new content and revisions ๐
olive jungle
how do you like the new dash?
brazen stone
A buddy of mine is still staying strong and waiting for "final" release - they're in for a treat ey
livid cargo
Tell him to buy it now so he gets it for cheaper
brazen stone
It feels a bit weird but I was a triple dash user so ๐ค
alpine stratus
the takes of ppl playing it all at once will be SO interesting
maybe use a different word there
thanks
olive jungle
Yep
brazen stone
The mystery is killing me! ๐
alpine stratus
throwback 2 when i was like "||pat|| is in there"
new theory. persephone is in there. please let her out shes afraid of the dark
brazen stone
Death Incarnate as a character is interesting.. I don't know the "lore" well enough but I didn't think the grim reaper type was part of this world
Cool to see
olive jungle
The scythe is more creative interpretation, haha
But yeah, Thanatos was a classical greek figure - Hades is the king of the dead, in the same way that a mortal king would rule over a group of people. Thanatos is the actual embodiment/god of death itself
brazen stone
That makes sense, thanks for clarifying 
brazen stone
๐
olive jungle
traditionally thanatos is depicted with a sword, not a scythe, and wings - he does have a sword here, too, he just doesn't use it, lol. and you can see his "wings" in his teleport animation
i have that somewhere.
brazen stone
Yup I had full 'Grim Inevitability' pact on
๐ค
Me 3 months ago was either oblivious or overly ambitious
olive jungle
rip
brazen stone
I don't remember doing any runs with this last time I played
Probably tinkering in the menu before signing off
golden skiff
This is my first post here, and I'm not sure if the devs will even see this, but I had to say I love this game! The combat and weapon diversity are amazing! I've only just beaten Megaera, so I believe I have a bit to go until I run up against the early access wall; but I'm absolutely loving the different combinations of gifts and how they interact with the different weapons AND the different attacks for each!
On top of the amazing mechanics I am absolutely LOVING the world building and lore reveals as I play run after run! I loved Greek mythology as a teenager and this is rekindling that joy I had. I can hardly believe this is an early access game with how much there is to discover, all the scripted lines, and that AMAZING voice acting!
I look forward to all future updates to see where you take this amazing game as you move further into release!
P.S. Hypnos is my boy!
prisma wind
Bugs should be reported in-game with F10
prisma wind
Not here, no 
lilac juniper
@prisma wind but i can not include screen shots whats the point
prisma wind
You can include the exact same link that you just pasted here ๐
If you're still in the room that it's happening in, the bug report also will send the save-state of that room with the report and they can see it themselves
lilac juniper
damn i should probably think before i send messages
prisma wind
Ha ha it's fine, we all have to learn these things at some point
rustic pecan
Hey @frozen sigil I would recommend splitting feedback ideas into individual posts, so it's easier to vote; I agree with some but not all of your suggestions, so I didn't end up voting at all
frozen sigil
Thanks @rustic pecan Ill keep that in mind, first post and all
ocean sequoia
faint talon
Hey folks, pretty new to Hades. I was wondering if there was any sorta functionality similar to other Rogue like games (e.g. Rogue Legacy) which lets you teleport to different areas once you've "discovered" the boss room. I understand how it may differ because your set of powers evolve more in hades in singular playthroughs so you might just to begin at the start every time - was just curious.
tulip lava
nope
faint talon
thanks!
stray zinc
ok there's not much to be negative about in this game, but does anyone else just hate the 2nd boss fight?
the bone Hydra?
that fight is just incredibly frustrating.
olive jungle
Frustrating in that it's too difficult or frustrating in that it's boring?
stray zinc
Frustrating in that A: the attacks seem random and when there's several heads out attacking at once, there's no definitive pattern so dodging is just like, spam dash as best as you can. It's hard to tell when the main head is going to be invincible and when it's not, and the fire spouts making certain parts of the map not able to be stood on seems also random and hard
like it's really hard unless there's some way you're supposed to cheese it that makes it boring?
There's just not a pattern to it.
tulip lava
the invincibility is pretty predictable
with all the bosses invincibility trigger at certain hp percentages i think
stray zinc
I understand that "when mini heads are out, it's invincible" but even after the heads die, when it goes invincible doesn't seem to be consistent. And very frequently, I'll watch it go from invincible, to vulnerable, then invincible again in the span of a second
tulip lava
huh
olive jungle
๐ค that could be a visual glitch with the shield
stray zinc
idk but it happens to me almost every time.
olive jungle
the shield may not be visible but it's still in invuln mode
stray zinc
If I just spam shots at the shield, like 90% will be blocked, then a few will get in, and that seems to reset the timer for how long he's invincible or something
olive jungle
that's...really strange
stray zinc
yeah idk. Happens quite frequently to me
Also the shield is kind of small. and i'm kind of blind lol
as in like, actually bad vision. I'd really like it if it was more clear that "hey he cant take damage atm"
olive jungle
Yeah, I think that's been feedbacked several times before
So totally valid complaint
stray zinc
idk i just do not enjoy that fight. Even when you're playing it well, it feels like it takes forever
and again, random damage.
if there's some trick to it, someone tell me xD
i've only beat it once
olive jungle
They improved the telegraphing a lot, I thought
The distinction between the hydra head types can be hard to see though
tulip lava
the main head head slam has had the most complaints about telegraphing since day one yeah
olive jungle
Which could make it seem like the attacks are random
the telegraphing on the baby head bite attacks is huge now though
tulip lava
this game needs a colourblind mode for sure
olive jungle
yeah.
prisma wind
Hydra does take a bit of practice, the first few attempts are certainly frustrating (though it's improved quite a bit since launch)
My advice, and I think others would say the same, is to focus on one side of the arena to clear a safe space
Then work your way around from there
tulip lava
yeah
prisma wind
And I just realized we're in discussion...
olive jungle
We are lol
tulip lava
with six heads you gotta clear out some territory to hold
prisma wind
If you want more advice, we can head over to #h1-builds-and-combat
stray zinc
oh
alright then
what's discussion for specifically then
if not discussing the game...
xD
jolly lodge
I second the colourblind mode because my late 90s computer screen has low colour range and the top of the screen is almost monochrome with negative when playing pyre or hades
tulip lava
gushing about how much you love character x mostly
olive jungle
people ask general questions here
prisma wind
It's for talking about the game in general, yeah
olive jungle
and some discussion of gameplay etc is ok but when it gets in-depth moving is generally preferable
prisma wind
Gameplay specific (strategy, builds, boss fights) belongs in gameplay
jolly lodge
(I meant the gushing about characters part)
tulip lava
zag's a good boy
olive jungle
god. he's so good.
tulip lava
his abs are rock hard but his heart is soft as a marshmallow
brisk trail
hi everyone. new to early access. is there some way to post feedback? the adamant rail just feels stupid atm.
the dps is way off compared to other weapons, no interrupt on attack which really hurts the mechanic since you actually can only get off 1-2 shots as soon as you play with somethine along +50 hate and reloading sometimes prevents you from dodging :-/
olive jungle
Check the pinned post in #hades-feedback for instructions on how to get the role
nova tinsel
@sterile creek, wouldn't that make more sense as a keepsake?
brisk trail
@olive jungle thank you :)
austere swift
Hi everyone. I've got the game, but usually I afraid to play "early access" games. Is there any point in waiting for Hades to be fully released or it is already as good as previous Supergiant's games? Thanks.
olive jungle
imo it's definitely already as good as previous games - every update has been really polished for such a fast schedule and it only gets better every time. obviously early access means things are changing a lot and a lot of things are still off limits or in development but that's a valuable experience in its own right
you already bought the game, right? give it a couple runs - if you're not enjoying yourself just put it back down until full release
austere swift
Thank you. I'll give it a try
rustic pecan
Had a convo with Lord Hades, and the next lore text will unlock in 999 more conversations. That's, like, the ultimate hidden loading screen.
fervent rock
where are save located
olive jungle
User\Documents\Saved Games\Hades
brisk trail
Paitently waiting for the steam release to scratch that Rougelike itch. :)
jolly ivy
Not unreasonable, I just doubt it will drop to the little over 6โฌ I paid for it any time soon
proper wing
hello i was wondering if the devs said anything about this game coming to steam?
or is it 100% just epic exclusive
olive jungle
When the game is finished, it will have a full release on multiple platforms
Early access is Epic-only
lapis parrot
One time per run to randomize the reward for the next chamber for 1000 shadow really doesn't seem worth it
olive jungle
It's a darkness sink more than anything - you can invest in it early if you want but it's honestly more there because us EA folks with 200 runs under our belts need something to grind for lol
hexed smelt
yuuuuup. i'm up to four rerolls
nimble glacier
they're actually really handy once you fill out everything else.
lapis parrot
Well yeah, sure
cloud jewel
i find it worth it for boon randomizing
quartz edge
Just finished my first full run of Hades current build and after 22 that was so satisfying
cloud jewel
like if i'm presented with a boon or power up that i don't want, i can get something else
nice! congrats!
trim otter
zagreus and thanatos. that's it. that's the whole message
tulip lava
just a couplea good goth boys
trim otter
can i request Art
proper wing
how is hades going sales wise?
olive jungle
I...don't think those figures would be made public until well after full release, if at all?
honest finch
hey guys can anyone explain wraith? I never seem to be able to use it
patent umbra
wrath accumulates when you deal or take damage
unless you're taking a lot of hits or have increased enemies you may not get enough charge until later chambers
honest finch
oh I nevr see the bar though unless Im blind
olive jungle
you can only use wrath if you've received a wrath boon
otherwise the bar isn't present on the UI
honest finch
now that makes sense
just made it to Elysium for the first time about 4 levels in
but when all the guys come in it was too much
will try again
stray zinc
Is there any point to giving people multiple gifts?
olive jungle
the power of friendship and love
for real though it unlocks more story content
also: it feels good to be nice to people in video games
and it's an easy way to get rid of all that ambrosia you don't want sitting in your inventory
there are technically speaking no, like, strict gameplay benefits to be gained from it though - it doesn't power up your keepsakes or make boons better quality or anything
stray zinc
So
no matter how many gifts i give someone, they wont do anything except say their "thank you" one liners?
olive jungle
No...there's more story content
olive jungle
yeah i said that gkfjgfd
stray zinc
well i wasnt sure if you counted the extra lines as story
olive jungle
ok hold on what are you defining as story content
prisma wind
There is Significant Character Development to be had
stray zinc
so how will i know when i should stop giving things to a specific character
olive jungle
i feel like we had this conversation before and i consider character interactions and development to be story
prisma wind
When you no longer are able to give them anymore is when you stop
stray zinc
ok one of the gods saying "I dont know what else to say except thanks, so thanks"
is not story content
olive jungle
right
prisma wind
We did have this conversation, but it was with someone else
olive jungle
no, so
when you give people stuff, USUALLY
you'll have a one-liner of some sort
but it will also push you towards a threshold that will allow other events to happen
so you may not get a conversation right that second
stray zinc
okay, thank you that's what i was wondering
olive jungle
but maybe the next time you come back to the house, there will be new stuff
stray zinc
so at some point, it wont let me give gifts? if it wont do anything
prisma wind
Correct
olive jungle
there are upper limits on how many gifts you can give
you can look in the codex to see where you're at with people
just as an example there's a conversation between ||achilles and hades|| that only happens if you gave a gift to hades
despite him being
an ingrate
yeah he doesn't
and it sucks
but.
stray zinc
ok hades didnt give me CRAP ๐
olive jungle
even though he doesn't give you stuff it does unlock that conversation
the fallen warrior in elysium also reacts to you very differently depending on how much he's warmed up to you
sisyphus has a good chunk of later dialogue based on how much you've gifted him and will also comment on your relationship with ||thanatos and megaera|| if you're close with them
prisma wind
Let's not forget that gifting is also the only way to ||get Orpheus to sing||
olive jungle
it sure is!
stray zinc
hope so i like meg
aw
so there's nothing you get from gifting Artemis
i cant gift her anymore ๐ฆ
i liked artemis
olive jungle
it's likely just the limits of current content, too
obviously the game's not in its final state
stray zinc
tru
also if we can't get a drink with Dusa by the finish version of the game
I want a refund
lol
quaint wind
how..... does dusa drink
would it be like a shallow bowl that she can drink from like a cat
prisma wind
Just sticks a snek into the bottle like a straw
chrome tinsel
Oh, good to know the gifts unlock conversations! I don't have many keepsakes yet but I keep throwing Sisyphus gifts because I love him and I've started worrying that I'm hurting myself by doing that, lol.
prisma wind
You can never do yourself harm by gifting Ambrosia
olive jungle
oh! i, too, love sisyphus,
he just..................gives you things
and he's always so chipper
chrome tinsel
I seem to always find him when I'm nearly dead and he saves me! And considering what he's sentenced with he's so nice? So I'm just like "I don't deserve you please take all my stuff"
alpine stratus
hes so kind!!!
tulip lava
sisyphus is good
fallen venture
there is a way to know how many waves a room will o currently have ingame?
prisma wind
There is currently no indicator for how many waves of enemies a room will have, no
fallen venture
oks ty
olive jungle
Zagreus will usually say something when you're on the last wave - "almost there" or something similar
timber topaz
Hmm... But where does Sisyphus get his stuff from?
prisma wind
He found it under a rock 
timber topaz
Maybe... Maybe he pushes Bouldy so far that he just sort of... finds stuff on the way?
quaint wind
bouldy gave it to him
timber topaz
I mean, he's gotta be supremely buff by now, right?
timber topaz
Maybe after the first mile or so, he's passing through Elysium, and people throw valuables at him because they find him amusing.
olive jungle
sparrow why do you post so many images
left is achilles, right is sisyphus
the beef is extremely canon
tulip lava
huggable boys
flat vapor
mmmm befy
shut garnet
...what's going on in here lol
what's the latest on those saucy wall-scrolls
shipping by the end of the week?
olive jungle
NICE!
stray zinc
Used Adamant rail with a sick on attack build
that DoT is super op if you can apply it
maiden obsidian
Does anyone know if you retain the bonus damage from pierced butterfly if you replace it?
olive jungle
You don't
maiden obsidian
K thanks
solid canopy
are we talking about how much we love sisyphus? because i love love love sisyphus!!! he gives me life............literally
hahaha
olive jungle
we are ALWAYS talking about how much we love sisyphus, hello
he won my heart from the very start uvu
with shameless bribery uvu
stray zinc
I can't be the only one with a crush on Artemis
solid canopy
artemis is lovely!!!
olive jungle
artemis is VERY good i remember when her portrait first dropped and i was like "yes she's perfect bless"
solid canopy
forgetting dusa smh
covert glen
fervent rock
I succeeded my first complete run! woohoo :p
few question: 1) other than having giving more darkness and some boons are skulls use for something else 2) Are the 2 doors beside archilles usual spot in the hub are used right now or part of future implement
- is there use for ambrosia / keys after unlocking all unlockable, I guess they can be used for the black market guy
plucky dagger
The doors are locked for now, there's no content behind them as of yet. Not sure if there will be.
Ambrosia will be needed to give to NPCs when more content/dialogue is unlocked in the future.
hexed smelt
ambrosia can still be given to characters after you get their gift, it unlocks more dialogue and makes them like you more
the main use of heat (the skulls) is to power up the pact of punishment and make the game harder
plucky dagger
Once everything is unlocked, not sure what to do with the extra stuff. Hang onto it for the full release, maybe more content will be added that will utilize it.
plucky dagger
That works
fervent rock
does having a god like you add anything?
olive jungle
nope! other than more conversations maybe
fervent rock
ok
hexed smelt
i will point out that even if you hate hades and donโt want to give him any ambrosia since he doesnโt give a gift in return, thereโs dialogue with ||achilles|| that you wonโt get if you donโt give him any
nothing gamebreaking but if you like Lore itโs worth noting
plucky dagger
It would be nice if he would finally give you something after maxing out all of his hearts.
hexed smelt
catch me still not giving any
fervent rock
some keepsakes guarantee you that specific god boons at start, is there a keepsake that give garanteed hammer? I guess not
void vigil
nope
fervent rock
๐ aww
trail helm
Not yet, but I think there should be one that increases hammer chance early or guarantees it in a shop on Tartarus at least
fervent rock
err, I dont mind "grinding" but I feel like getting all that darkness to get the 1k fated autority mirror bonus is a bit high
livid cargo
its meant to be a darkness sink, siyano
something to put darkness towards once you are done with everything else
fervent rock
๐
hexed smelt
yeah, exactly. itโs not something you aim for right off the bat
trail helm
Is that what heat gates are supposed to be as well? The costs seem high
hexed smelt
no, those are for extra risk-reward stuff
trail helm
I'm not sure I get where the risk is compared to the chaos gates?
hexed smelt
they donโt cost any
infernal gates require that you have that much heat ACTIVE
thanks discord
trail helm
Oooh. That definitely wasn't clear
gloomy osprey
whatโs this emoji?! 
hexed smelt
shh he sleepin
gloomy osprey
oh sorry
trail helm
I was actually just thinking about how this game could bring in more risk/reward similar to how Isaac has devil deals. Chaos gates/boons seem like they need more depth
gloomy osprey
good night sweet prince
trail helm
I saw the cost of the infernal gates and didn't bother with them
livid cargo
i'd say chaos boons already can break the game
hexed smelt
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
trail helm
I didn't even realize chaos boons had different rarities until my last run
Having broken runs seems like a feature of roguelites and not a balancing ossue
*issue
Though it kind of seems like there should be some more permanent trade offs
It's probably just been my RNG that gives me chaos gates early
thin silo
Anyone know if they have an official press kit? With transparent logo, etc to use for streaming?
void vigil
idk if this is what youre looking for but https://www.supergiantgames.com/games/hades
you can right click the logo in this page and open it in a new window to get it
also theres some wallpapers and screenshots in there
summer pewter
Just now playing the update. Does the new dash have iframes or something?
hexed smelt
didnโt it always?
summer pewter
Was the spear special nerfed to not inflict hitstun?
A fair change. It was pretty OP before
thin silo
Thanks @void vigil it wasn't exactly what I was looking for but close enough to work!
void vigil
glad i could be of help!
wanton sonnet
hey is there a reason why hades has so much disdain for zag?? I never actually understood exactly why
fiery pebble
Less lazy, more rebellious
Were never actually told what the hell Zag is supposed to be doing
But yeah, he doesnt like that Zag is just not playing along
tulip lava
yeah in the current game events they're in direct conflict, i'm talking about before the game starts
fiery pebble
I dont think we have an indication of him having that much disdain previously?
Other than Hades's standard control freak nonsense
wanton sonnet
also, whatโs zagreus supposed to be the god of?
tulip lava
going to #h1-story-discussion
fiery pebble
Talking back to Hades
wanton sonnet
NDJSNDJND
vast hatch
I don't think he's a god they make a clear point that He has red blood and other god don't.
olive jungle
If he's not at the very least an immortal, it's pretty weird that he keeps coming back to life
vast hatch
Well he is already in hell, but fair point
olive jungle
meg, another (presumably) immortal also "dies" and comes back, as do the other furies, so at the very least zag's not the only one who seems to go through the same process
vast hatch
Yeah but since it's Meg who indicate how wierd it is for him to have a red blood he's case must be spรฉcial in some way
olive jungle
it was Alecto, wasn't it?
but yeah the blood thing does seem to be like...a point of discussion lol. ||hades also mentions it in a remembrance||
i don't really get it yet.
hexed smelt
it's alecto, yes
||"Never met a god that bleeds like you. Red. Like a worthless mortal. Come on! Let's bleed you dry."||
vast hatch
I don't know much about his Mother but if she's a mortal that could explain his blood (hercules didn't bleed blue did he ?) and having hades as his father can give some privilรจge in hell. That, would also explain why alecto would comment about it since she think his Mother is nix
olive jungle
we should probably move to #h1-story-discussion
mint sable
do you guys know? If in the mirror I take the +50% chance to have a rare boon, and i take a +25% chance to have epic boon, do I have less chance to have an epic boon because the +50% rare chance "overrides" the +25% epic, so I have more chance to have a rare? Does anyone know? Because if that's the case I'd prefer keeping +25% epic, and I put 0% in rare.
So basically do I have less chance to have an epic because in the mirror I put +50% rare?
olive jungle
I'm inclined to say no...it wouldn't make much sense for it to be that way
blazing palm
Marked debuff for Artemis is so good
vast junco
it used to be even better!
lethal sedge
I do understand that Theseus is some sort of placeholder boss, but his power and hp are simply rediculous. He just got Poseidon boon and spammed whole arena with water, so i have absolutely zero time to counterattack, since there are also 2 charriots + his spear. This limits player build to dash-onehit-run, i can't even use bow or gun, or grenade / thrown weapons. Simply no time. And also guy has enormous defense due to shield. Why do i have to cheat infinite hp to beat a boss? I tryed to bombard him with triple bombs + Artemis ultimate and it was ok until he got boon. Then it all turned into boring running for minutes until i can hit once. By the way, Artemis insta kills any bosses is this intended? They survive only cus of invulnurable treshhold protection.
olive jungle
what do you mean by "placeholder boss"?
lethal sedge
It means devs on purpose gave him way too much power since he is last boss you have in game alpha.
Same was with hydra prior to last big patch.
olive jungle
don't think the hydra was nerfed in the last patch...
vapid drift
(this is, for reference, not what 'placeholder' means.)
olive jungle
they improved the bite telegraphing but that's all they've done
the hydra fight has been changed steadily since it was introduced
lethal sedge
Well he does good job holding you at one place xD
olive jungle
But yeah the fight can definitely be grindy, although with a decent loadout it's not impossible
i managed wins on all the weapons before the hp was nerfed, it's a little bit easier to do now so like it's definitely doable
i don't enjoy doing the fight unless i'm trying to challenge myself but that was the case with the hydra too basically
i think some other folks have said the fight feels too grindy, you should leave feedback about it!
wanton sonnet
dark supergiant let me braid achillesโ hair
olive jungle
things on dark supergiant's to-do list:
-pet the dog
-braid achilles' hair
tulip lava
braid the dog, pet achilles' hair,
woeful lotus
i feel like artemis in general interacts too much with the other gods bonuses compared to the rest
i like the fact that you want to combo but the fact that the crit multiplier is to big relative to the small bonuses you get from having 2 debuffs for example makes it so you pretty much always want her
the ares cast also seems abit strong compared to the others currently especially since it doesnt get stuck in targets so it can be recast relatively frequently
proper wing
is there anyway to go endless in thsi game?
proper wing
when you can loop at stages untill you either die or quit
but you can get more and more buffs while you do the endless
alpine stratus
hxnfjgj zag in endless mode like "HEY.....SOMETHINGS WRONG HERE"
proper wing
xd
lapis nova
I might be asking this in the wrong place, but can I ask for opinions on whether Hades is worth picking up right now? ๐ Considering it mostly because it's on sale. I was avoiding it until it's closer to release.
alpine stratus
persnaps i am biased, but absolutely yes
alpine stratus
theres loooots of content already, and watching the game grow and unfold chapter by chapter is so cool!
livid cargo
and as more content is added the price will increase, likely
as the game is getting a price increase after the sale ends
due to more content having been added
lapis nova
Fair enough. Picking it up now, then ๐
proper wing
its amazing in it state rn
worth picking up while it on sale prob never be this again
winter orbit
Could someone enlighten me on why people would want heat gates to show up when they're not playing with heat? Trying to understand the prospectives of people who down vote my feedback.
If this should be in gameplay instead I'll move it there
hexed smelt
if they don't show up when you don't use heat, people who don't check the wiki or such won't know they exist
winter orbit
I guess that's true. It doesn't seem like that much of a motivation to me (i.e. if I wasn't gonna use heat, I wouldn't do it for the extra gates either). But other people might think differently
woeful lotus
well its not like it matters that they are there?
winter orbit
No, but it's just distracting to me when it pops up and I can't use it. Seems like more people find it useful to be there though, so I'm fine with it. That's the beauty of the vote system on feedback.
ivory sundial
havent tried hades yet, but seen a bit of it- how's the soundtrack?
ivory sundial
Ah, awesome
wanton sonnet
Theseus looks like heโs supposed to be the mascot of a cleaning product
woeful lotus
mr clean the ancient greek version
jolly lodge
Ajax is already doing that
oblique ivy
I love how there are like 7 layers to each song that turn on and off depending on what part of the level you're on
Its probably only 4 but whatever
fluid zealot
Oh that's cool! Do you have an example?
Also, how many attempts is everyone at? I'm a huge supergiant fan but I haven't spent a lot of time with this one, so I'm only at 33
granite pecan
oh goodness. over 200 for my first save
summer pewter
Yo, when can I get a Zaggrius statue to put next to my figurine of Red~?
winged summit
GUYS HELP I've been trying to figure out the time signature on the track "Out of Tartarus" and I can't for the life of me do it jdfakgjfdlkg. Even asked an actual โจ music friend โจ and he couldn't figure it out either. Does anyone have a clue?
hardy pagoda
@winged summit Have you tried listening without being fies?
wanton sonnet
my friend says itโs mainly 4 but thereโs some parts that are two??
not sure what that means
nevermind she has no idea
flat vapor
i'll take a listen to it later
@winged summit it's honestly a whole mix of time sigs and constant changes, but the first part is 11/8
11/8 + something else (5/8?), it switches into a straight 4, then it noodles into 21/16 (which is 11/8 minus half a beat)
wanton sonnet
he said itโs a 21/8 compound meter
regal pagoda
Damn, I think I just destroyed my safe file
Ran into the final shop before the Hydra fight in Asphodel and then my game bit the dust. Can't restart that safe-file either.
livid cargo
does it show up on the file select bit?
regal pagoda
Yeah, it's still there
But when I want to start it up, screen remains black and then the bug report panel immediatly appears
livid cargo
did you try restarting your computer?
regal pagoda
I did, did not work.
Tried loading another safe file, that worked. Tried loading the bugged out safe file again and it broke
hexed smelt
well, the obvious first step here is to fill out the bug report thing and explain what happened
thankfully the game backs up your save file so you might still be able to salvage it
regal pagoda
Sounds promising.
Let me get back at you about that tomorrow. I actually need to fall dead into my bed now.
Must be Hypnos' doing.
mortal dome
hp check on the asterios fight: 1/150, won right as I got hit by a gorgon paralyze
humble pulsar
11/8 + something else (5/8?), it switches into a straight 4, then it noodles into 21/16 (which is 11/8 minus half a beat)
I was about to say "wasnt out of tartarus 5/7 or something" and then I had to remind myself that 5/7 is not an actual thing
id be very interested in knowing what seventh notes would sound like though
flat vapor
i mean, a computer could probably do it
there was a guy who composed for player piano that did a lot of stuff in irrational time sigs, like pi over e
olive patrol
hi im just wondering how can i get those flaming skulls ? i only got red skulls from hydra so far? like 38 of them some boon appears with flames skulls to purchase? but idk how to get them?
i just started playing ytd sorry for noob questoin
long sandal
hey guys, im a returning player, lots of new patches.. what is most broken builds and abilities now?
flat vapor
@olive patrol ||theyre part of the pact of punishment, if youโve unlocked it, it should be in your room. itโs used to make the game harder. those booms with flames are opened when you have a certain amount of heat (the red skulls) active||
olive patrol
@flat vapor thanks ๐
flat vapor
welcome, iโm not entirely sure when the pact is unlocked since i had it before the new update
fluid zealot
Wow, the Hydra is HARD. Is there any way to beat it before it summons the extra heads for the third time, or is it just HP linked?
vapid drift
it's HP linked - it's easier if you have a lot of damage and can blow up the first head to spawn
since then you're only dealing with 3/5 instead of 4/6
because if you get unlucky with head types and can't immediately kill one... yeah. it gets really hard.
fluid zealot
It was taking me forever to kill the heads, but I still got halfway through their last spawn
Lots of dashing like every Supergiant game, each run will be entirely different, and lots of dialogue (way way way more voiced stuff than the last ones!)
flat vapor
a really fun roguelike with a ton of replay value and story that feels deeply personal and connected to you
raven venture
Love it already
flat vapor
and fun as heck combat
flat vapor
plus itโs not even finished yet! so thereโs more to come
opal veldt
I dunno where the right place to discuss this is, but the section of the Hades FAQ about being EGS exclusive seems like a big bunch of empty non-statement
I feel like SG might want to go back over it in the wake of all the EGS hate going around right now
fluid zealot
Try feedback or @ing the mods
opal veldt
doubly so considering nothing about their early access is using the EGS as far as I can discern. all the action seems to be here on discord.
fluid zealot
@flat vapor Speaking of which, they said they're going to stay in Early Access through 2019 and some of '20, but reading their roadmap, it seems like they're almost done. One more region, one more boss, one or two more Olympians... What am I missing?
opal veldt
hmm, you think that would fly in #hades-feedback ?
flat vapor
months of time for each one
and another weapon
hades feedback is for the content of the game
plus theyโd probably have some time for polishing and reworking as well
vapid drift
content-completion is far from tuning-completion
like, even when they get the last characters and area in, there's still like, boons to balance, duo boons to add, heat and the mirror to check over and all.
fluid zealot
Very true! Thanks
vapid drift
(also making sure the duo boons are fun/work - basically, there's a lot of tuning to go after we get features in)
flat vapor
plus iโm sure there will always be balance concerns
opal veldt
the definition of rogue-lite on the FAQ is also wrong. I feel like one of the marketing guys made this page...
fluid zealot
What's wrong about it? Seems fine to me
opal veldt
the only difference between rogue-like and rogue-lite is whether you get to keep some progress after death, or whether you start completely over
anyway. sorry to launch straight into criticism. don't get me wrong. enjoying the game. giving me old vibes of Bastion with 10 idols
fluid zealot
Hey, does anyone know how to open the boon menu on a controller?
jolly lodge
it's the select button I think? the one on the other side of options
across the middle button
fluid zealot
Thanks! That's the share button on PS4 so I never ever considered pressing it
winged summit
@wanton sonnet @flat vapor thank you guys so much!!
that's incredible that you could figure that out :o
wanton sonnet
:DD glad I could help
chrome tinsel
@@opal veldt The definition of rogue-like and rogue-lite in the FAQ is the one I heard years ago when the genres were popularized by Binding of Isaac. Rogue, the game the genre is named after, was strategic and turn-based, which is why there's dispute over the definition. The FAQ is fine imo. Genre definitions are always a little wishy washy, so I don't know that your definition is wrong either, it just depends on who you ask.
Also I'm not sure Supergiant even has "marketing guys"? They're such a small team I think they just do it all themselves.
fallen venture
I just wanted to say that I love the OST of this game, specially the bossbattle themes
halcyon heron
Is the "choose favor from the gods" a "long-term" thing or a per-run thing?
fallen venture
a per-run thing
flat vapor
@winged summit no problem!
regal pagoda
Best part about the OST is a certain someone finding his muse again
sullen lotus
How do we submit feedback? #hades-feedback-closed says to "Please visit #hades-feedback-readme for details on how to send us feedback.
"
but I'm unsure how to do so
granite pecan
read the pinned messages on that channel
sullen lotus
I'd like to see a damage counter at the end of a run. For example. how much dmg done by attacks/specials/charged attacks/wall slams etc etc etc. I must know the numbers!
Thanks @granite pecan
brisk trail
i am going to say it once, you cant beat the game with zeus attack boon
livid cargo
But you can though
halcyon heron
Do you guys prefer to play with keyboard, or controller? Gotta troubleshoot my steam controller since it wasn't moving Zag.
Saw something like I had to disable or shut down steam's "helpfulness". Also have a pro switch controller that might work too
livid cargo
I think kb players are crazy but more power to them
halcyon heron
Do you end up aiming with one joystick and movement with the other?
halcyon heron
I'll try it when I get back home tonight.
Found that playing with keyboard and mouse hurt my hands a lot, so I could only play for like 30 mins
vale kite
dong deng denglengle dong deng denglengle dong deng denglengle (thats the intro of scourge of the furies)
livid cargo
I agree
sterile peak
keyboard and mouse gang rise up
radiant tangle
KBM people be like "I enjoy using rail special and dionysus cast" (that's me I say that all the time)
vale kite
nothing wrong with dio cast but i personally hate it with my guts
tulip lava
ares here with the slap chop
livid cargo
Gordon Raresmy
tulip lava
call now for a duo boon and you get another slap chop for free!
past sluice
Ares Cast + Hunting Blades + Engulfing Vortex = Greek Roomba of Death?
livid cargo
Yeh
regal pagoda
I kinda don't like Ares all that much.
jolly lodge
I can't unsee the greek roomba of death now that you said it
hexed smelt
roomba with a thousand knives taped to it
hidden sonnet
had a run with ares + artemis duo, and theseus just literally melted away
its the most OP combination ive seen so far
tulip lava
Athena larps
woeful lotus
thing about the ares cast aswell is that you can just keep casting it since the crystal doesnt stick in enemies
hidden sonnet
exactly, im tempted to always go ares and artemis now haha
regal pagoda
Ares Cast is fun and interesting to use, but almost everything else about his boons is fairly bad.
Doom isn't all that exciting to have except for certain exceptions, the dash and wrath effects are okay at best
The cast not attaching itself to enemies also takes out that 50% damage increase you get for sticking it into enemies, so that is also a net-loss to consider.
golden skiff
I need to start using my cast, lol. Most of my runs I just ignore it in favor of seeing what new combos I can get from the boons and different weapons. Maybe then I'll be able to get through Elysium!
regal pagoda
I was like that at first too. I blame the regular cast for that. It feels very bland and boring and usually not worth the effort
Paired with it's boon increasing damage against enemies usually going to waste against enemies who just don't live long enough to get all that much damage ouf of it
Pure Artemis Cast Runs usually end up being amazing because the damage is amazing. Once, I had an Artemis Castrun, but with Athenas Cast, that ended up being pure carnage
elfin sparrow
I feel like ares cast is just far superior to all of the others
regal pagoda
Athenas Cast dealing small explosion damage, having a very high number paired with fast dislodging damage while also having deflect and homing
It was just a gold experience.
elfin sparrow
Especially if you get that artemis duo, then the whole game gets trivialized
tulip lava
I love me a dio cast tho
regal pagoda
I really liked Dionysus when I started out
But that really became less because I ended up missing the damage bonus from the darkness perc and of course some other smaller points
elfin sparrow
zeus and poseidon boons just feel almost useless compared to the others
Except the poseidon one that increases room rewards
regal pagoda
Zeus' Cast is amazing
Thing with Zeus is that everything he does and represents is super mediocre
unless you got a lot of boons you get from him.
His damage potencial curves exponentiolally the more you get
elfin sparrow
Don't you feel like Athena cast can handle AOE almost as well, but it does way better with single targets though?
elfin sparrow
Like is there any Zeus build that isn't horrible with single target?
regal pagoda
But aside from Artemis boons, you don't get anything that really makes the damage or effects of it that much more interesting.
With Zeus, almost all Lightning Effects he has deal very little damage
elfin sparrow
Yeah exactly, it's so painful when you get to elysium and take minutes to clear a room
regal pagoda
but once things like jolted come into play, the damage potencial becomes insane.
Also, there are next to no single target fights in the game.
Not even Bosses.
elfin sparrow
Yeah, fair enough. Though I tend to end up focus firing one at a time for elysium
regal pagoda
Meg keeps summoning adds constantly, the Hydra summons 2-6 heads and skelebros constantly (and is super easy to deal with outside of that) and the Horny Boy boss fight is literally a 1v2
sullen nebula
Tisi and that's it
elfin sparrow
I guess I could try a full Zeus build before trashing it
regal pagoda
Another great thing about Zeus
elfin sparrow
I just always get bored in the runs with Zeus boons
elfin sparrow
What weapon do you feel like goes best with his boons?
regal pagoda
With zeus? depends on the boons you get.
The Attack Chain Lightning is huuuuge if you play spear or adamant rail
Because the extra damage can translate to basicallya ~100 damage increase on these
more or less
and then you keep building up extra synergies on top of that like jolted and the likes.
elfin sparrow
Are you saying going with like the chain upgrade for spear for instance?
regal pagoda
On the other hand, I had some great runs with the bow and focusing on using Zeus special to keep groups controlled just nicely
elfin sparrow
Sorry if that doesn't make sense, horribly constructed sentence
regal pagoda
I understood what you mean.
As I said, it really depends on what I go with.
If I have a weapon that has very fast attacks, the attack boon is great.
With the Bow, I hardly if ever attack because the bow attack is terrible, so the attack bonus of zeus would be wasted there
To summarize
I like Zeus usually on gods with fast/weak regular attacks
or weak ranged specials
elfin sparrow
Yeah bow definitely feels more suited to a crit build if you were focused on attacks
Although crit build with special is great with bow
regal pagoda
Bow and Spear are imo the weakest weapons in the game
Shield and Rail are on top by far
elfin sparrow
Huh, interesting. I have found bow to be the best for me
regal pagoda
I am a simple man
I want to be great at everything.
The shield offers great damage while also giving you
Great mobility, great CC by having loads of build in knock back, some range in the special and, most importantly
huge defense by being able to block
elfin sparrow
Yeah, I guess I have never really given the shield a proper try and never actually tried using the block
I am just averse to melee ๐
It did seem pretty strong though
regal pagoda
It really is
You know the phrase that goes like
"Jack of all trades, master of none"?
The shield is basically the master of everything
elfin sparrow
Hahaha
regal pagoda
Master of all trades
regal pagoda
Leftclick Charge up
elfin sparrow
Because I realized I honestly have never used it to block
regal pagoda
And you are blocking damage from the front
elfin sparrow
Oh yeah, woops
regal pagoda
Almost all damage sources
elfin sparrow
Shows how little I have used it ๐
regal pagoda
From the top of my head, I can't remember a thing that I wasn't able to block when I thought I could.
regal pagoda
Sometimes, I just block things by accident just by virtue of loving to charge a lot.
elfin sparrow
Especially during some of those bullet hell moments
Or the ever-frustrating elysium bow enemies
regal pagoda
Oh yeah, it's worth it's weight in gold.
I am going to level with you
I am a mediocre player. Not just in Hades, but in games in general
I have to make up for my inabilities with knowledge
elfin sparrow
Same here!
I have never devoted enough time to really become great at any game really
And I am still definitely learning Hades. Only bought it five days ago or so
But it's super tight for early access
chrome tinsel
I've found that the shield is really useful if you happen to get Meg as the boss, since you can block all of her projectiles really easily. That's what I tend to use the block for, projectiles.
elfin sparrow
I knew I would enjoy it after watching a bit of a let's play, but I ended up enjoying it even more than expected
Oh yeah, that is nice
chrome tinsel
also @elfin sparrow I am the SAME WAY, I tend to get distracted by starting new games rather than finishing what I"m already playing, lol.
regal pagoda
I started a YT channel a couple days ago. New safe file, blank slate. Third or fourth run was my first shield run in that file and I managed to get all the way to the Hydra
elfin sparrow
Yeah hahaha, I have barely finished any games
regal pagoda
Felt good
elfin sparrow
Played a lot of Binding of Isaac, and I finished Ori and the Blind Forest, but that was a short one
regal pagoda
Played Isaac as well, but that has been quite a while in the past
elfin sparrow
Yeah. I thought I was tired of it when I revisited a year ago or so, but after picking it up around a week ago it was quite fun again
It's so good
regal pagoda
Roguelikes tend to do that with you
elfin sparrow
I guess this is veering off topic. But yeah, nice talking to you and thanks for the info
I should come at a Zeus build with a bit more of an open mind
regal pagoda
You're welcome.
Hit me up if you feel like talking again.
Also, check the #self-promotion channel, I intend to post there regularly in the future.
regal pagoda
Very nice
halcyon heron
Before I waste a hard earned ambrosia, is there a point to giving it to the same character more than once?
Hypnos can go screw himself, he ain't done nothin for me
radiant tangle
There is no mechanical benefit (yet?) to giving a character more than one ambrosia, but it unlocks new story and dialogue events
halcyon heron
Gotcha, didn't know if there was some sort of "rep system" or something. But nothing in the UI showed any indication of that
vital belfry
If you have it unlocked, the codex will inform you of your ambrosia investments, and subsequent 'gift' associated hearts.
halcyon heron
Oh.... the hearts are the gifts.. i thought it was through having the conversations
What does the skull mean under the boon image before you enter a room?
prisma wind
It can mean a couple different things, but generally speaking it means a more challenging room than normal
This could be a mini-boss, and Elite room, or a boss
halcyon heron
Yeah, it ended up being "choose between Aphrodite and Dyonessus" which is classified as an elite room?
prisma wind
Oh, I didn't realize that the Trial rooms also had skulls
If you see one with two boons in the same globe, that's a Trial of the Gods
Sparrow made a guide, if you're interested https://discordapp.com/channels/456889434672201729/520688402958516254/580873144567463968
It's not 100% exhaustive, but it should get you started (can only fit so much info an an infographic before it gets cluttered)
halcyon heron
Yeah, that helps. I now understand what people are talking about an "X heat run"
Figured that was some sort of score you get at the end
halcyon heron
The usage of "mate" everywhere seems very non-greek
vital belfry
I like the mate's a lot. Very casual. Sets the tone of familiarity.
I'd also say the different accents are way more non-Greek than the 'mates' littered about. In an effort to create clash/contrast in culture/background between Olympians and the Underworld, the two factions are given distinctly different accents. I also think the choice of what these differing pronunciations were also heavily influenced by what the team felt comfortable voicing acting.
granite pecan
the fact that everyone is speaking english is so non-greek. immersion destroyed
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oblique ivy
Shout out to meg for having the coolest female voice ever
granite pecan
not to be gay on main but: her voice gives me the chills i love it so much
halcyon heron
Alecto and tisphone are others.. are they not in the game yet? Do we expect them to show up at some point?
olive jungle
They're in the game
granite pecan
they show up eventually after a number of runs
drowsy shale
I love reading the patch notes and seeing one of the long term goals listed as "More Replayability" and sitting there like I didn't just marathon this game five days in a row now because it's got that addictive of a gameplay loop.
drowsy shale
I would be attracted to a man with excellent physique and a tendency to gift me with expensive wines too don't you worry
olive jungle
never forget the month of diothighsus
halcyon heron
That mirror damage increase of having to hit stuff from behind doesn't feel that rewarding. 90% of this seems to be "from the front" type of damage
Probably playing wrong.
olive jungle
Spear special gives auto backstab, and it's fairly easy to get backstabs with the shield's bullrush and such too
Well, not auto, per se, but since enemies are usually facing you, it often backstabs
halcyon heron
Whoever beat the 3rd area: What keepsake and weapon did you use?
velvet granite
I've beat it 3 times with the bow and once with the spear. Chipped tooth (Skelly's) once, don't think the keepsake mattered on the other 3 times.
halcyon heron
Got to the 3rd area with the rail, but maybe i need to try going back to the spear
olive jungle
I've beaten it on all the weapons but i only have screenshots of my builds from two of them
halcyon heron
Were you full mirror, or mostly through the mirror? Are there key upgrades that just make things click?
olive jungle
Not particularly? death defies are always good
But in reality the mirror is more of a situational boost than a lifesaver
the most impactful things you can get from it are death defies, health buffs, the extra dash, and more money
Let's see, I cleared a spear run with a mix of athena and artemis boons, and a sword run with ares and aphrodite, though I think that duo was removed from the game so that may not be viable anymore
olive jungle
yeah, that sounds about right
the most powerful one is probably still athena & artemis deadly reversal
(btw this is probably better suited for #h1-builds-and-combat so i'm going to move there)
vale kite
zag puts the bro in ambrosia
halcyon heron
That's a question I had. Could I potentially transfer my epic games save file to my steam account (when it releases)? I'd rather play on steam, but bought this game on Epic because I was excited for Early Access.
onyx sigil
To be fair itโs supposed to be literally a food that can imbue something with divinity
Or at least something similar to that
Whatโs surprising is that you can find stacks of the stuff laying around in tartarus kind of forgotten about
:D
vale kite
next major update in 2 weeks ๐
wanton sonnet
it probably takes like lacroix or something
halcyon heron
My theory is that ambrosia was honey
And acted sort of like mead in the way that it worked in norse mythos. At least mead existed, so valhalla it was consumed plentifully.
Although Nectar also existed in greek culture, and ambrosia is typically thought of as a "solid food"
regal pagoda
Okay, but, listen
What do you make out of junkfood replenishing a young gods health?
flat vapor
uh charon only uses the freshest ingredients and buys from local farmers
halcyon heron
Yeah, the french fries and burgers are a bit weird
Meat skewer would work, and be sort of greek i guess? But I guess this game isn't trying to be completely faithful to a time-era
flat vapor
it's a gyro
halcyon heron
Oh, that's fine then. Always thought it was a burger hah.
halcyon heron
Yeah, he seems to be absent from what I could tell. Upgrading a weapon seems more like Haephestus than Daedelus
Aside from buying one through the shop, would be interesting to have the upgrade be one of his forges, like Charon's shop is.
Or maybe completely remove it from the shop, and always make it a room event
regal pagoda
Wouldn't be too bad, but it would be another constant in a rogue like.
Constants and variables need to be closely balanced for good replayability.
The amount and location of shops and NPCs is already fairly fixed so farand knowing these can be a huge help
halcyon heron
Why? The room could randomly show up, it's not that much of a difference
It's just a flavor thing
regal pagoda
It would also make Heph the only other olympian god we could meet in person aside from Hades I believe
A big point about the Olympian gods is that they either can't or don't want to go to the underworld and have no way of actually communicating with them apparently
We can take their boons, we can send them alcohol, but they even outright say that they can't hear us and, for the most part, aspparently can't even see all that mucj
halcyon heron
Yeah, that's a fair point. Maybe it's his mini-forge or even his hammer.
halcyon heron
Because I was on the page and Aphrodite showed up, and she is definitely not kosher to have up at the office.
hexed smelt
i'm not seeing a banner off to the side?
also, any reddit concerns would be best brought up with the moderators of the subreddit
halcyon heron
Yeah, i figured that. Didn't know if any of them hung out here.
hexed smelt
i think so? i'm not sure if they've been around in a while, you're probably still better off talking to them on reddit itself
plucky parrot
I feel silly for asking, but where am I supposed to report bugs? Neitehr feedback nor tech support seems appropriate
chilly stump
No worries!! I usually try to step aside if a mod's about to answer a question. ๐
plucky parrot
Oh, I had no idea there was an in game bug report feature
Maybe that should be advertised a little better? Anyway, it's to late now
I did make screenshots though, where else might I report it?
flat vapor
you can link screenshots in the bug reporter
plucky parrot
Ah, that's great! I though it just took a screenshot then and there
I'll do that then, thanks!
brisk trail
Heartbreak Strike or Lighting Strike? Opinions...
vapid drift
what weapon?
brisk trail
Shield.
vapid drift
heartbreak
brisk trail
I ended up sticking with heartbreak and stacking a lighting effect instead
vapid drift
shield's attacks are slower than I'd recommend for lightning strike
brisk trail
still getting a feel for everything
halcyon heron
Vicious Skewer, Exploding Launcher, Multi Skewer (spear)
burnt pond
Vicious or Exploding, depending on your preference for AoE or single target burst.
halcyon heron
Well, Hydra and the damn shield guys in the 3rd biome are what are killing me the most
burnt pond
I would do Vicious Skewer then.
halcyon heron
Man.. taking the "damage when dash" chaos right before a boss fight was abad idea
prisma wind
Ha ha yup, that is not good
halcyon heron
I really like the egg. It makes me kind of wish you could choose 1 "olympian/chaos keepsake" per run + 1 other one. This is the only one that made it feel like I got a benefit for going for a particular boon strategy
tulip lava
hellllllllllll yes
fluid zealot
Ayy yes absolutely
regal pagoda
Asterius is one beefy horny boy
flat vapor
we love mr bull man and his shield bf
regal pagoda
I am not into males, but I'd have to disagree there.
radiant tangle
He's certainly an acquired taste
regal pagoda
Not only but also because of his lookss, but mostly because of his attitude.
olive jungle
a taste i am in no hurry to acquire thanks
tulip lava
theseus is just the manley of hades
tulip lava
i'm right
regal pagoda
You know who is a cool gay/bi dude?
Achilles
He is just super chill about it, and everything
tulip lava
everyone
olive jungle
the distinguished/functional/disaster chart needs to be updated
olive jungle
ok,
fair.
but there are gradations of disaster here
or at least
different flavors of disaster
tulip lava
disaster/depressed/thotty
olive jungle
KJGHDFKJG
vital belfry
Distinguished disaster / functional disaster / complete disaster
flat vapor
i feel like thatโs every character in the game
tulip lava
orpheus can be a distinguished disaster bi
fluid zealot
Hey High Priest, I know you have to spoiler tag it because... Technically. But it's hilarious because they're on the main screen of the game rn every time you load it up
tulip lava
like he's a death magnet for everyone he's ever loved but at least he can sing some sad songs about it
fluid zealot
Okay distinguished/functional/disaster is exactly Megaera, Alecto, Tisiphone
flat vapor
wait LMAO
radiant tangle
I think Alecto is more disaster, actually
tulip lava
tisi is pure function
what more do you need than one word when you're punishing murderers
flat vapor
well technically
fluid zealot
Idk if that's a spoiler
flat vapor
two words
fluid zealot
One word, and then the same word with an -er
flat vapor
murder and murderer
tulip lava
eh you get murder for free when you have murderer
fluid zealot
Hey I really can't wait to see Orpheus' and Sisyphus' final character portraits
radiant tangle
Gods, me too. Show me Sisyphus's beautiful face, please, the man needs a smooch and I've got two willing lips
tulip lava
get you a man who can move 500 kilos of granite and makes you gyros
olive jungle
honestly? ideal
woeful lotus
I dunno thanatos is rather hot
tribal hill
I've finished my first run yday, but it is still unclear to me how the block mechanic on the enemies works. Can u break the block with certain attacks or do you have to attack from the back?
olive jungle
You have to attack from the back. There's no guard break mechanic as of right now
tribal hill
Ok thank you for clarifying
woeful lotus
Theres definately some weirdness with the backstabb mechanics on some enemies
olive jungle
Yeah, the block radius isn't always very intuitive for sure
gritty dirge
Does anybody know if the voice of megara from the game is meg in the disney version of hercules? it sounds a lot like her
gritty dirge
ahh i see thanks for the info
halcyon heron
If you're offered a chaos gate in the first couple rooms, do you usually take it?
alpine stratus
yes
void vigil
no but I should get in that habit
because yeah itโs very much worth it, I just get tempted by the boons I can see or a heart or gold
onyx sigil
Imho chaos boons are nearly always better than anything short of hammers or god boons you really want
halcyon heron
So what happens when you take a chaos gate, what do you give up (if you equip the egg). Do you randomly get put into the next room and removed the choice of what reward you take?
granite pecan
if you have the egg equipped you give up nothing. you get sent to chaosโs domain and then after taking a chaos boon, go on to another randomized room in whatever biome you were in when you left
halcyon heron
Ah. Thought if you were in a room that the choices were: Gold or Zeus Boon, then coming out of the chaos gate you'd get thrown into a room that rewarded either gold or zeus boon.
granite pecan
for me iโve typically found that if thereโs a miniboss room ahead and i pick chaos, i still get sent to the miniboss room but the god is different
flat vapor
i believe chaos technically doesn't count as a chamber, so the next room is of the same type of laurel
past sluice
@flat vapor I could never figure out whether Chaos counts towards the "you need to pass X chambers to get to the Stage Boss" or not.
I think Megaera/Tisiphone/Alecto appears at 16th chamber, but I think I saw her once at 13th.
Gee, I think I should start writing that down for every run, with notes on Chaos/Erebus Gates taken.
flat vapor
it would make sense that chaos gates donโt count as chambers, bc the point is that theyโre out of the way and stuff