#h1-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 623

cyan copper Mar 15, 2019, 10:24 PM

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hey @astral lagoon

astral lagoon Mar 15, 2019, 10:24 PM

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hello!

cyan copper Mar 15, 2019, 10:25 PM

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lookit

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fanworks

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i shoulda just @ u there

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but

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woops dusa

astral lagoon Mar 15, 2019, 10:25 PM

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its ok!

brisk trail Mar 15, 2019, 10:27 PM

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ooof i lost close to the ||hydra||

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stupid blue stones

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any enemy that's sole purpose is to shield other enemies

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i really hate

astral lagoon Mar 15, 2019, 10:28 PM

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#h1-story-discussion !!

brisk trail Mar 15, 2019, 10:28 PM

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so annoying

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sorry @astral lagoon keep forgetting that's a spoiler

buoyant frigate Mar 15, 2019, 10:49 PM

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what's the conditions to meet thanatos, pm me for no spoil

void vigil Mar 15, 2019, 10:50 PM

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||he just appears, its random. i do think you need to be a certain amount of runs in to encounter him but i dont know how many||

astral lagoon Mar 15, 2019, 10:51 PM

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||im pretty sure the sisters have to be around to meet him ||

buoyant frigate Mar 15, 2019, 10:51 PM

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i encounter him once

astral lagoon Mar 15, 2019, 10:51 PM

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good luck finding him its a blessing when he shows up

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oh! then ur good

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he'll show up when he wants to

buoyant frigate Mar 15, 2019, 10:51 PM

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i dont know if u need to have some skulls up activated to encounter him

astral lagoon Mar 15, 2019, 10:52 PM

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nope

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you dont

buoyant frigate Mar 15, 2019, 10:52 PM

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ok ^^

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well

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i know how to meet him then !

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coffee/redbull 😄

astral lagoon Mar 15, 2019, 10:52 PM

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i wish he showed up more rooLove

cyan copper Mar 15, 2019, 10:53 PM

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with time and care4 he will grace you with his prescence

astral lagoon Mar 15, 2019, 10:53 PM

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dont be mean in chat bc then he'll avoid you

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rooFeels

cyan copper Mar 15, 2019, 10:53 PM

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i always forget to give dusa ambrosia when i have it spare

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i hope she wont come for me with the scythe

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shadeembarassed

buoyant frigate Mar 15, 2019, 10:54 PM

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next update was made to encounter him more, isnt it ?

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last update*

cyan copper Mar 15, 2019, 10:54 PM

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nah it was just a bug fix

astral lagoon Mar 15, 2019, 10:54 PM

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no it was!

buoyant frigate Mar 15, 2019, 10:55 PM

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ok ^^

astral lagoon Mar 15, 2019, 10:55 PM

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i havent noticed a change tho

cyan copper Mar 15, 2019, 10:55 PM

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o wait yea it did

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i didnt realise there was already another patch

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ive only seen him twice so far

minor hornet Mar 15, 2019, 11:21 PM

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well the acoustic version of "in the flame" came up on my music playlist and now I need to decide whether I want to play pyre or hades

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my life is incredibly difficult

winter river Mar 15, 2019, 11:21 PM

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How does one find the duel buffs?

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Or combined god boons. I can't remember the name from the patch notes.

minor hornet Mar 15, 2019, 11:22 PM

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I think the term people use is "duo boons"

winter river Mar 15, 2019, 11:23 PM

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I haven't encountered them yet

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Do you have to combine two particular boons to find them or are they just rare?

minor hornet Mar 15, 2019, 11:24 PM

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I haven't either, but it's my understanding that you need to a) have at least one other boon from the two gods involved, and b) possibly, a preqrequisite boon for certain effects to actually apply

winter river Mar 15, 2019, 11:24 PM

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Hmmmm

winter river Mar 15, 2019, 11:39 PM

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Anyone here gotten a duo boon yet?

harsh iris Mar 15, 2019, 11:41 PM

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Nope

signal spoke Mar 15, 2019, 11:41 PM

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Yep, I've gotten one so far but I have only played a few runs on the patch

buoyant frigate Mar 15, 2019, 11:42 PM

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wel ten runs

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no thanatos ...

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maybe he fear me ? 😄

cyan copper Mar 15, 2019, 11:47 PM

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i got one

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i dont remember it tho

sick tree Mar 16, 2019, 12:12 AM

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Yeah @winter river - I got the Artemis + Athena Duo Boon, It was God damn amazing!

minor hornet Mar 16, 2019, 12:16 AM

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just got a dionysus + zeus boon, for which I'm certain dionysus' cast was a prerequisite because it was based on festive fog

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kind of crummy, too, but the other options were worse

dreamy latch Mar 16, 2019, 12:18 AM

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Only one I got so far was Ares cast + Artemis. It was very fun

sick tree Mar 16, 2019, 12:24 AM

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Ares + Aphrodite requirements: || 1 'weak' boon, 1 'curse' boon ||

Zeus + Poseidon requirements: || 1 'knockback' boon, 1 'lighting' boon ||

|| Those are the only ones listed on the wiki so far but it stands to reason the others follow the same rule, 1 of each of the status boons, but not any specific ones ||

brisk trail Mar 16, 2019, 12:32 AM

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where does my screenshot folder save?

sick tree Mar 16, 2019, 12:35 AM

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Documents/Saved Games/Hades/Screenshots

brisk trail Mar 16, 2019, 12:36 AM

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ok

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#ask is read only how do I ask a question?

hexed smelt Mar 16, 2019, 12:37 AM

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you don’t, q&a is over!

minor hornet Mar 16, 2019, 12:37 AM

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ask is specifically for the "ask a dev" events, you can ask tech support questions (e.g. crashes or graphical problems) in tech-support or gameplay questions in gameplay

sick tree Mar 16, 2019, 12:39 AM

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@brisk trail - You might have several variations of the 'saved games' folder in your documents, holding games from different companies and platforms, I have 3 different ones spelled slightly differently, but they shouldn't be too hard to find

brisk trail Mar 16, 2019, 12:40 AM

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no thats the one

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thanks bud

sick tree Mar 16, 2019, 12:40 AM

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cool

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Pleasure

brisk trail Mar 16, 2019, 12:41 AM

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Game needs more weapons

cyan copper Mar 16, 2019, 12:42 AM

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ay its a wip after all

sick tree Mar 16, 2019, 12:43 AM

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We're getting 1 more

cyan copper Mar 16, 2019, 12:43 AM

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i want somethin slow but beastly damage

sick tree Mar 16, 2019, 12:43 AM

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... Like the bow?

cyan copper Mar 16, 2019, 12:43 AM

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uh

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hmm

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i always play the bow with q spammy builds xd

sick tree Mar 16, 2019, 12:44 AM

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I know it's not quite what you meant but, without the rapid fire upgrade, it is really slow

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😅

ancient epoch Mar 16, 2019, 12:47 AM

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I hate to be negative but the Epic Games store is quite the epic fail. I literally had to e-mail them a photo of my passport just to download the game.

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The game looks amazing though. Can't wait to play.

cyan copper Mar 16, 2019, 12:48 AM

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feels wierd man

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and oof its a fab game

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ENjoy!!

sick tree Mar 16, 2019, 12:50 AM

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Oh cool, new player!
Welcome @ancient epoch - I'm sure you'll enjoy the game~
Check in back here as often as you like, everyone here is pretty nice~

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But yeah, the Epic Games store is awful

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😂

brisk trail Mar 16, 2019, 12:54 AM

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better then steam

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despite epic not having a revieuw system

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it's fairer to the dev's and it isnt anything goes like steam's greenlight system and the plethora of trash

winter river Mar 16, 2019, 12:59 AM

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I think both steam and epic have their pros and cons and are relatively bad. But the competition should improve both hopefully

void vigil Mar 16, 2019, 12:59 AM

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please move those discussions to #off-topic-discussion

hexed smelt Mar 16, 2019, 1:00 AM

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y’all, general discussion of the epic game store goes in #off-topic-discussion

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oh

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sorry alma

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slow thumbs

ancient epoch Mar 16, 2019, 1:00 AM

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Sorry about that.

winter river Mar 16, 2019, 1:00 AM

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sorry

ancient epoch Mar 16, 2019, 1:00 AM

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I'm not very smart.

brisk trail Mar 16, 2019, 1:01 AM

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i was allready done

winter river Mar 16, 2019, 1:11 AM

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So I just got my first duo boon, but I wasn't clear if it was doing anything. Maybe should have bug reported it? I got ||Dionysus combined with Zeus, supposed to trigger Lightning Strikes during Festive Fog||, but I never saw the effect go off once. Not sure if its a bug or if I was just unlucky and its a low chance effect or something (though in that case maybe in need of a buff). Also I had a different thing where I seemed to get some sort of duo buff where a ||Lightning DoT would occur every time I got a knockback off a Poseidon boon|| but I never actually aquired that duo boon, and it started before I got the other one. I was using Bow and my boons were ||Poseidon's Special boon, Zeus Wrath boon, Poseidon's knockback acceleration Boon, Dionysus cast Boon, Zeus Dionysus duo boon|| in that order. Anyone else had any experience like this?

brisk trail Mar 16, 2019, 1:11 AM

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Fred what was your dio boon?

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there's a difference between Blight and Festive

winter river Mar 16, 2019, 1:12 AM

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I stated it in the spoilers

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||I got a duo boon that said enemies in Festive Fog would be occasionally hit with Lightning Strikes||

minor hornet Mar 16, 2019, 1:13 AM

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that's the same one I got

winter river Mar 16, 2019, 1:13 AM

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did it do anything for you?

minor hornet Mar 16, 2019, 1:13 AM

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there was no "effect" per se, but you could see the numbers popping off of them if you paid close attention

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as I said, though, it was pretty crummy

winter river Mar 16, 2019, 1:14 AM

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oh weird, so maybe they need to add the animation still?

brisk trail Mar 16, 2019, 1:14 AM

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i know what it' does

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howe ever for it to trigger you need festive fog

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wich you can only get, trough his Cast

minor hornet Mar 16, 2019, 1:15 AM

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yeah, I specifically stopped at looked at it to make sure it was doing damage because I had the same impression as you

brisk trail Mar 16, 2019, 1:15 AM

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if you dont have that, that boon is pretty usueless

minor hornet Mar 16, 2019, 1:16 AM

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I'm not sure it's possible to get the boon if you don't have festive fog

winter river Mar 16, 2019, 1:16 AM

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I'm like 90% sure its not

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I think it was confirmed at some point that duo boons would have prereqs

brisk trail Mar 16, 2019, 1:17 AM

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im quite sure it is

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because i didnt have festive fog but i did have the 2 needed for it

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so this might be a bug

minor hornet Mar 16, 2019, 1:19 AM

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yeah, I think there are a couple whose prereqs snuck through

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I wouldn't be surprised if that were the case

brisk trail Mar 16, 2019, 1:22 AM

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feedback/bug?

minor hornet Mar 16, 2019, 1:23 AM

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if you get into that situation (no prereqs for a boon that modifies something specific) I would definitely report it using F10

brisk trail Mar 16, 2019, 1:24 AM

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ah ok

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ill do it the next time it shows i[

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ujp*

minor hornet Mar 16, 2019, 1:24 AM

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👍

tawny pollen Mar 16, 2019, 4:19 AM

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ares abilities are largely trash

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y/n

radiant tangle Mar 16, 2019, 4:20 AM

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It's a matter of playstyle. I, for one, greatly enjoy the blender shenanigans that can be set up using his cast/dash, and the curse is very useful when using low damage weapons

astral lagoon Mar 16, 2019, 4:20 AM

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i like ares boons

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blend em up zag

tawny pollen Mar 16, 2019, 4:26 AM

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curse seems weaker than dionysus

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it takes so long to get the dmg off

dawn bramble Mar 16, 2019, 4:29 AM

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I used to really like curse but after having been through more runs, it kind of pales in comparison to the other boons.

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but it is really satisfying landing the curse on a bunch of enemies and dashing away while they have a buttload of damage dealt onto em

tawny pollen Mar 16, 2019, 4:35 AM

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its at the point where if i see an ares boon i try and take anything else

strong path Mar 16, 2019, 4:46 AM

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ares's wrath is best wrath tho

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everything else is eh

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that wrath RIPS

prisma wind Mar 16, 2019, 4:47 AM

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... really? I mean, fair enough, that's your opinion. I disagree strongly, however

strong path Mar 16, 2019, 4:47 AM

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fair is fair

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also ares's wrath is one of the least likely to make the hydra fight lag like crazy

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so while i love zeus's lightning

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imma wait on it til the game is a bit more stable

tawny pollen Mar 16, 2019, 4:53 AM

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the damage on it is a bit low

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but the duration and speed of it makes for a good get out of jail free card

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which. again doesnt seem suitable for ares/

pastel nacelle Mar 16, 2019, 6:45 AM

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https://i.imgur.com/a2Mmyy8.jpg man I really like when you crank it up so you get no healing, ever, but then all the boons you get are for healing...

Imgur

spring cipher Mar 16, 2019, 6:46 AM

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That's dionysus baby

pastel nacelle Mar 16, 2019, 6:48 AM

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dio you're drunk
look at my loadout

quiet jackal Mar 16, 2019, 8:20 AM

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@supergiant Really, really good job on the work here.. alongside hello games you're the most talented indiestudio i've ever seen

spice patrol Mar 16, 2019, 11:30 AM

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so what does rzor shoals "you knockaway effects make foes take damage by moving quickly" actually do?

sullen dagger Mar 16, 2019, 11:30 AM

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If they move fast they take damage

burnt pond Mar 16, 2019, 11:30 AM

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Makes foes take damage when you bop em

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And send em ZOOMIN

sullen dagger Mar 16, 2019, 11:31 AM

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And they can either move fast with pos boons

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But also whenever the bloodless jump around the map

burnt pond Mar 16, 2019, 11:31 AM

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But does it work on Z axis movement, like with Skullcrushers?

sullen dagger Mar 16, 2019, 11:32 AM

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I don't know

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Well presumably even if it did you couldn't proc it

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Because they don't get knocked back

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The knockback basically puts a debuff on them for a short duration that does the damage

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Maybe?

vale kite Mar 16, 2019, 11:56 AM

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@burnt pond it doesnt

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Razor shoals applies a buff that damages enemies whenever they move

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The faster they move the higher the damage

spice patrol Mar 16, 2019, 11:58 AM

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Thanks y'all! 1 more question. I haven't seen meg at all since the update (about 10 runs) is that just bad luck or did she get shelved or something?

vale kite Mar 16, 2019, 11:59 AM

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Bad luck

unkempt sleet Mar 16, 2019, 11:59 AM

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Bad luck, she's still around

vale kite Mar 16, 2019, 11:59 AM

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Shes still around

unkempt sleet Mar 16, 2019, 11:59 AM

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Jinx

vale kite Mar 16, 2019, 11:59 AM

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ron

spice patrol Mar 16, 2019, 12:00 PM

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Alrighty, thanks again!

sullen dagger Mar 16, 2019, 1:21 PM

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Does anybody know how multiple stat buffs stack with each other?

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Is it additive or multiplicative?

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And is it the same or different for specific bonuses, e.g. just +attack% from a god boon, and general bonuses like the Butterfly Pin that just increases all damage by X%?

fiery pebble Mar 16, 2019, 1:26 PM

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Right, so, there are 2 types of multiplicative

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There is MultiplicativeBase, and Multiplicative

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Boons like +% attack or special are MultiplicativeBase

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They take the base damage of the weapon, and multiply that

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Then there are boons like Urge to Kill, effects like Distant Memory and hammer upgrades

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Those are multiplicative

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They work by adding together all the % from the multiplicative effects you have, then multiplying the damage with it

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So if I were to write it as a formula, itd be (BaseDamage*MultiplicativeBase)*(Multiplicative+Multiplicative+...+Multiplicative)

sullen dagger Mar 16, 2019, 1:36 PM

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And what if you've got multiple sources of multiplicative base?

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Like from a god boon and then a chaos boon?

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Do they just add to give a total multiplicativebase?

radiant tangle Mar 16, 2019, 1:37 PM

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For example, World Splitter adds +300%, and Cyclops Jerky adds +20%, for a total multiplicative of +320%, for a total of 420% (nice) of 25, or 105 damage.
If I had a god boon that gave +100%, it would be 840%, because god boons affect base damage, giving us a damage of 210.
In my experience, there is a third multiplicative layer, which is reserved for conditional damage buffs such as backstab, boiling blood, extra damage to weak enemies, etc. Damage % stacked here is totalled and then added together, which is why +100% from backstab and +50% from boiling blood yields +150% not +175%.
It's not clear which boons fall into which categories, but my assumption is that Olympian Boons are base multiplicative, Chaos Boons, Hammer Upgrades, and Well of Charon items are layer 2 multiplicative, and Conditional damage boons are layer 3.

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Multiple base mutliplicatives, like when using urge to kill, would probably be totalled and then multiplied. So a +20% urge and a +80% attack boon would be a +100% attack damage (probably)

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Did that help?

sullen dagger Mar 16, 2019, 1:40 PM

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Yeah, I was just gonna try and test it out but didn't really want to rely on RNG to get a good build to test it with

radiant tangle Mar 16, 2019, 1:41 PM

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Yeah I got real salty the first time I tried to use Cyclops Jerky on World Splitter

sullen dagger Mar 16, 2019, 1:41 PM

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I'm tryna theorycraft a max attack damage build

radiant tangle Mar 16, 2019, 1:42 PM

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👌

sullen dagger Mar 16, 2019, 1:43 PM

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I guess it would have to be sword w/ world splitter, not sure which olympian gives the best attack bonus, but Urge to Kill and maybe the bonus damage vs weak could be in it? And then get lucky with a chaos boon, plus 27(?) stacks on butterfly pin

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It's hard because the boon values aren't even fixed

slender monolith Mar 16, 2019, 2:11 PM

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I'm now apart of the cool kids

radiant tangle Mar 16, 2019, 2:13 PM

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Welcome to the club!

slender monolith Mar 16, 2019, 2:15 PM

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ye

red coral Mar 16, 2019, 2:16 PM

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Hey y’all don’t forget the final boss is still a spoiler!

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If you’d like to mention them by name please take it to #h1-story-discussion or #h1-builds-and-combat

onyx galleon Mar 16, 2019, 2:39 PM

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Hello, quick Q : Has support for ultrawide been implemented ? ie 21:9 ?

native atlas Mar 16, 2019, 2:55 PM

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Guys, do you need to have boons only from 2 gods to be granted a duo boon? I have had trouble discovering them, and only found 1 myself so far

void vigil Mar 16, 2019, 2:58 PM

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im pretty sure the duo boons have a chance to appear randomly from either god once you already have a boon from each

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maybe its certain boons

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and im not sure its a 100% chance to get them

olive jungle Mar 16, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Check #h1-builds-and-combat , i posted the pre-reqs earlier today

native atlas Mar 16, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Thank you @olive jungle

deep prawn Mar 16, 2019, 3:18 PM

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what does dead zone slider in the control menu do

fiery pebble Mar 16, 2019, 3:24 PM

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@sullen dagger there is no multiple sources of multiplicative base

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Its only the basic god boons

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Chaos boons are proper multiplicative

ivory fractal Mar 16, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Apropos of nothing: what's the deal with Athena's portrait? It's the only one with a "blinking eyes" animation, and her left armlet looks oddly unfinished.

astral lagoon Mar 16, 2019, 8:59 PM

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yeah the blinking rlly

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freaked me out when i first noticed it

hexed smelt Mar 16, 2019, 8:59 PM

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if i remember correctly, athena was the first foray in trying to animate things on the portraits

dry sable Mar 16, 2019, 9:32 PM

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is there a release date for steam yet

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still waiting to buy this game

tulip lava Mar 16, 2019, 9:32 PM

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probably 2020

dry sable Mar 16, 2019, 9:32 PM

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ty

gleaming crane Mar 16, 2019, 9:38 PM

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"How long will Early Access last?
We expect Early Access to last more than a year from our initial launch on Dec. 6, 2018.

Will Hades ever come to Steam or other platforms?
We expect to bring Hades to a variety of other platforms once Early Access is complete, including Steam. That’s not for a while so we can't make any promises here yet."

tall gull Mar 16, 2019, 10:39 PM

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Missed the last gift for dusa dialouge two times trough a bug can I read it somewhere ?

astral lagoon Mar 17, 2019, 12:33 AM

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watching my friend play and she just found this https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/328306777609207808/556636097334214676/unknown.png

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i couldnt tell her to report it in time GWqlabsMmSad

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oh

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wait-

gleaming crane Mar 17, 2019, 12:34 AM

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Does she play with heat?

astral lagoon Mar 17, 2019, 12:34 AM

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nvm GWqlabsKek

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still funny picture

smoky arrow Mar 17, 2019, 12:35 AM

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next time someone tries to give you a compliment but low key roasts you

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show them that and say nothing

astral lagoon Mar 17, 2019, 12:35 AM

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gdfhgfdfg

somber pawn Mar 17, 2019, 12:52 AM

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im not korean hahahaha

hexed smelt Mar 17, 2019, 12:52 AM

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......what?

tulip lava Mar 17, 2019, 2:03 AM

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good reaction pic

coarse maple Mar 17, 2019, 7:44 AM

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Wrath definitely makes things way more fun. It feels nice to have a brief "I get to stop stressing for a tiny bit and just enjoy hurting everything for a little while" button

pastel path Mar 17, 2019, 9:31 AM

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Does anyone know Hades age rating?

cyan copper Mar 17, 2019, 9:58 AM

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is there a screenie button in epic games launcher

void vigil Mar 17, 2019, 10:19 AM

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like, screenshot?

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bc hades' screenshot button is F11

cyan copper Mar 17, 2019, 10:41 AM

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ah tytyty

burnt pond Mar 17, 2019, 12:17 PM

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I don't think gods age.

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Also probably rated T for teen.

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Not sure what the PEGI rating would be 🤔

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Probably 12+, but this is all conjecture!

gleaming crane Mar 17, 2019, 12:19 PM

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Probably 12, yeah:
"Video games that show violence of a slightly more graphic nature towards fantasy characters or non-realistic violence towards human-like characters would fall in this age category. Sexual innuendo or sexual posturing can be present, while any bad language in this category must be mild. Gambling as it is normally carried out in real life in casinos or gambling halls can also be present (e.g. card games that in real life would be played for money)."

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PEGI 16 seems too much since it's when violence "reaches a stage that looks the same as would be expected in real life".

pastel path Mar 17, 2019, 12:51 PM

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Thanks. Helpful.

limber abyss Mar 17, 2019, 3:15 PM

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Alright guys I'm finally here. I finally bought the game lol

quartz blade Mar 17, 2019, 3:18 PM

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next major update is in 2 months right?

olive jungle Mar 17, 2019, 3:21 PM

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Yep

spring cipher Mar 17, 2019, 5:01 PM

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But its gonna be their biggest update yet

lethal shoal Mar 17, 2019, 5:27 PM

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How does that update smell to you? As a next area or sweet story fuel + polish?

hexed smelt Mar 17, 2019, 5:29 PM

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it's already been confirmed that it's the next area

lethal shoal Mar 17, 2019, 5:29 PM

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oooooo

hexed smelt Mar 17, 2019, 5:30 PM

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Closing Thoughts: In our latest Development Roadmap update, we announced that our next major update will be our biggest yet: It's going to feature the game's next biome, meaning a major area of the game including new chambers, foes, traps, characters, music, and more. As stated there, rather than spread this work over two standard updates as we originally planned, we are opting to take longer to make sure everything is ready to go at once. We appreciate your patience and understanding here, and we'll let you know how it's going in next month's Blast!

gleaming crane Mar 17, 2019, 6:17 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/fGi6F4c.jpg

Imgur

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Just chilling with my skeleton pal.

hexed smelt Mar 17, 2019, 6:17 PM

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wh

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how did you

alpine stratus Mar 17, 2019, 6:18 PM

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:0

hexed smelt Mar 17, 2019, 6:18 PM

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you broke the background,,

modest river Mar 17, 2019, 6:20 PM

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this might be a bit late to ask but does Supergiant have any intention on moving hades to Steam cuz right now the scandal of Epic is spying on Steam's information really makes me want to uninstall it but also I really like the game right now

golden jackal Mar 17, 2019, 6:21 PM

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we could always ask them in the future, but my belief was that they would once the game is complete

hexed smelt Mar 17, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Will Hades ever come to Steam or other platforms? We expect to bring Hades to a variety of other platforms once Early Access is complete, including Steam. That’s not for a while so we can't make any promises here yet.

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from #hades-faq

modest river Mar 17, 2019, 6:23 PM

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I am more than happy to rebuy the game again on Steam cuz I do think this is an awesome game, its just that the launcher is kinda shaddy plus I dont even play Fortnite

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tks sparrow

golden jackal Mar 17, 2019, 6:23 PM

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thank you sparrow

modest river Mar 17, 2019, 6:25 PM

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On one hand I want Epic to admit this illegal act but on the other hand I know it will affects the game tremendously

hexed smelt Mar 17, 2019, 6:26 PM

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if you would like to discuss the epic launcher, that would go in #off-topic-discussion

modest river Mar 17, 2019, 6:27 PM

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alright tks a lot

gleaming crane Mar 17, 2019, 6:53 PM

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@hexed smelt Just shield-bashed him there.

hexed smelt Mar 17, 2019, 6:53 PM

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without killing him? dang

gleaming crane Mar 17, 2019, 6:57 PM

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Most of my hits were backstabs and it still didn't kill him, so it's easily doable.

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If you remove your backstabbing damage in the mirror, there's no way you can fail.

void vigil Mar 17, 2019, 7:52 PM

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can also give him more hp with the pact for good measure

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and the death insurances

remote lily Mar 17, 2019, 8:32 PM

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just got new laptop for web browsing and study without dgpu , runs hades on 30fps , huh so happy 😃

somber snow Mar 17, 2019, 10:51 PM

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would like to thank supergiant for the abundance of male presenting nipples

hexed smelt Mar 17, 2019, 10:51 PM

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they're glorious

wintry patrol Mar 17, 2019, 10:51 PM

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the way the gods intended

vital belfry Mar 17, 2019, 10:52 PM

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Heck yes

brazen tangle Mar 18, 2019, 12:05 AM

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male presenting nipples crafted in the image of the gods......

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equality is real

somber snow Mar 18, 2019, 12:57 AM

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supergiant invented gender equality.. ugh their minds

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also i just got my first victory royale

astral lagoon Mar 18, 2019, 12:58 AM

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congratz dude hope u thanked the driver

somber snow Mar 18, 2019, 12:59 AM

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u know it

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only took. 37 attempts fdjklsdf

astral lagoon Mar 18, 2019, 1:08 AM

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oh dw! took over 50 for me

somber snow Mar 18, 2019, 1:10 AM

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oh valid!!

brazen tangle Mar 18, 2019, 2:56 AM

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god this is an hour late to the joke but does skelly technically count as the driver in this theoretical hades battle royale setup

astral lagoon Mar 18, 2019, 3:00 AM

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Absolutely

crystal pecan Mar 18, 2019, 3:11 AM

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Gotta say, having not spent much time in Hades since early January, the 5-6 hours I got in this weekend really opened up a lot of the new content. I am loving the direction this game is headed

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:14 AM

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do any of you use the adamnt rails special?

radiant tangle Mar 18, 2019, 7:24 AM

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It's the only part of the weapon I enjoy using

limpid goblet Mar 18, 2019, 7:24 AM

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Rail is kinda... Meh

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Doesn't really fit 🤔

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:25 AM

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@radiant tangle how exactly do you enjoy it

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it's way too slow for it to be actually viable in high octane fights

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made a couple of feedback suggestions to this slow moving bomb

radiant tangle Mar 18, 2019, 7:27 AM

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Rail is, in general, too slow for my tastes, but the special is so much fun.
I like the challenge it offers, of having to lead where you think the enemies will go (and I played with it enough to aim it well) and it offers an insanely high damage output to compensate. It's too slow for Whipped Frenzy, but then most things are

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:27 AM

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it's fun.. but you dont win runs with Fun

radiant tangle Mar 18, 2019, 7:27 AM

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I do, actually.

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:27 AM

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you did 120 heat

limpid goblet Mar 18, 2019, 7:28 AM

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Somebody uses rail on high heat ?

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What

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:28 AM

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i do

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got to hydra twice

radiant tangle Mar 18, 2019, 7:28 AM

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I haven't, I stick to low heat

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:28 AM

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and there's your issue

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on high heat that special is not as effective

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where the other weapons still are

radiant tangle Mar 18, 2019, 7:28 AM

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Weapons aren't balanced for high heat, period

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:29 AM

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not true

limpid goblet Mar 18, 2019, 7:29 AM

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I can do high heat on every other weapon but rail

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:29 AM

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most weapons are useable in high heat

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that's just because you dont get the rail Turtlemush

radiant tangle Mar 18, 2019, 7:29 AM

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Coincidentally, I'd argue

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:29 AM

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like nova is still very much useable

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the bow special still does allot of damage if used right

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it's a fast awnser

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the spear.. well we all know the back damage

limpid goblet Mar 18, 2019, 7:30 AM

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I get the rail

radiant tangle Mar 18, 2019, 7:30 AM

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Nova and the bow special require you to be next to the target

limpid goblet Mar 18, 2019, 7:30 AM

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I just hate the rail

radiant tangle Mar 18, 2019, 7:30 AM

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^^

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:30 AM

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but you never told me why

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you just said you hate the rail

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nova can be 30% increased

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and the bow special is good dps with the right boons

limpid goblet Mar 18, 2019, 7:30 AM

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I dislike ranged weapons in hack and slash games anyway

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:30 AM

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or with the 100% more shots

limpid goblet Mar 18, 2019, 7:30 AM

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Also the rail can't stagger

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:31 AM

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rail can stagger

limpid goblet Mar 18, 2019, 7:31 AM

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Not on normal auto attacks to their face shadesmile

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:31 AM

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yeah

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but with zeus boon

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it can

radiant tangle Mar 18, 2019, 7:31 AM

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I'm not saying the Rail isn't good, I'm saying I don't enjoy using it

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:31 AM

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im saying the rails normal attack is good

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but that bomb just needs a fix

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to be suitable

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in high octanse situations

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like the other weapons all have a fast awnser

limpid goblet Mar 18, 2019, 7:32 AM

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The rail is unfun to me

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:32 AM

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i enjoy all the weapons

limpid goblet Mar 18, 2019, 7:32 AM

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Anyhow I don't really even use the specials on the weapons 🤔

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:32 AM

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except maybe shield

limpid goblet Mar 18, 2019, 7:33 AM

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Shield and sword are the best for me

radiant tangle Mar 18, 2019, 7:34 AM

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The Rail is a slow weapon, and I believe that's okay. It's attack doesn't stagger, and it's special takes a long time ~~and a math degree~~ and that's perfectly acceptable. Not every weapon needs to be fast, especially with how varied it can play with hammers and varying gods.

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:34 AM

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Sword used to be my most disliked

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then i got 30% more AoE on special and poseidon

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Cakewalk from there

limpid goblet Mar 18, 2019, 7:35 AM

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I like autoattacks

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squirtdevious

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:35 AM

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The Rail is pretty fast tho @radiant tangle

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it's only the special that's not

limpid goblet Mar 18, 2019, 7:35 AM

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If you get a bad run, the rail is the worst weapon by far though

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Without any boons its super weak

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:36 AM

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ehh i only need 1 boon

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on low heat

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Zeus + rail

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you automatically hit everything else

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from range

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the Faster shots + 6 ammo is nice too

radiant tangle Mar 18, 2019, 7:40 AM

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For clarification, I am excluding boons when I evaluate weapons, as defining a weapon by its interaction with a specific upgrade greatly limits how it can be played. The Rail has a high rate of fire, but it doesn't deal much damage and can't stagger, lending to a more cautious gameplay pattern as opposed to the other weapons, which all have ways to stagger enemies and thus reward getting up close and personal.

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 7:44 AM

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im excluding boons as well

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that's why im saying

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this bomb

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just needs to be something else , something thats useable in all difficulties, or something that's faster

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i see

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lacouchettes

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is downvoting again

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okay

radiant tangle Mar 18, 2019, 7:53 AM

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The thing about something being viable in all difficulties is that the ||Pact of Punishment|| inherently discourages certain strategies; ||Whipped Frenzy stops slow play patterns and Death Insurance prevents people from stacking all their damage on one hit, to name a few.|| A slower, highly damaging ability simply won't be viable under those conditions, and, while frustrating, I think that's ultimately okay. ||The Pact|| is supposed to change how you play, is supposed to be a challenge to get over, and it sounds like it's working.

charred shard Mar 18, 2019, 8:27 AM

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Heyyyy, quick question: For the Dionysus boon ||After Party, what is defined as "low?" The text says it will return health to a certain point after an encounter, but I'm curious at what point it will do that.|| Thank you very much.

radiant tangle Mar 18, 2019, 8:27 AM

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It should give a number in the boon

olive jungle Mar 18, 2019, 8:27 AM

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"low" is defined as below the threshold given

charred shard Mar 18, 2019, 8:27 AM

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Ahh.

gleaming crane Mar 18, 2019, 8:27 AM

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That point is the amount of health you return to, yeah.

charred shard Mar 18, 2019, 8:27 AM

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So the threshold is the "low" point?

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Huh.

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Interesting.

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Thank you!

gleaming crane Mar 18, 2019, 8:28 AM

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Would be a bit weird if it was "returns you to 40 health when you reach 20", as that would cause you to take damage on purpose to get what is essentially a heal, and it would be awful if it was "returns you to 40 health when you reach 60" stumptScary

charred shard Mar 18, 2019, 8:49 AM

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Yeah, I was assuming it was the former rather than the latter, due to wording.

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Suppose that's on me. 😛

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You know how you can tell a good game?

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When it's still fun to play with tequila. ❤

olive jungle Mar 18, 2019, 11:25 AM

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@heady fog If you think you've encountered a bug, please report it in-game using F10 rather than in the feedback channel!

heady fog Mar 18, 2019, 12:49 PM

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@olive jungle Yeah sorry, you're right, thanks !

olive jungle Mar 18, 2019, 12:51 PM

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I'm going to clear your feedback message if that's alright!

heady fog Mar 18, 2019, 1:11 PM

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Yeah sure, I'll report it !

dark locust Mar 18, 2019, 1:12 PM

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Question: are zagrius and thanatos brothers ?

olive jungle Mar 18, 2019, 1:12 PM

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#h1-story-discussion

smoky arrow Mar 18, 2019, 1:15 PM

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Zagrathos

rain comet Mar 18, 2019, 3:09 PM

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Any hint about the duo boons?

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 3:55 PM

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Any hints on beating Meg

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I've found my active weapon right now is the spear I love the spear.

amber garden Mar 18, 2019, 3:58 PM

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Meg just focus on dodging her charge and counter attacking

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Learn the distance she moves and stand there. Bait the charge, dodge, dodge back, backstab

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 4:00 PM

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I find the spears very good as when it comes back to you after stabbing through the dude the second attack is counted as a back stab

amber garden Mar 18, 2019, 4:00 PM

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Yeah that's very cool

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 4:00 PM

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And if you throw the spear and make it come back that's also a backstab

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How important is the third dodge upgrade

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I've been using dodge 2 for a while

cloud jewel Mar 18, 2019, 4:01 PM

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the third dodge is pretty clutch

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 4:02 PM

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Dodge 2, death defiance 3

cloud jewel Mar 18, 2019, 4:02 PM

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especially if you have a boon on it

amber garden Mar 18, 2019, 4:02 PM

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I'm pretty reliant on the entire mirror

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 4:02 PM

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Ya you and me both @amber garden

amber garden Mar 18, 2019, 4:03 PM

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I can't imagine playing with ||heat||

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Oh my God I love megs theme though

harsh iris Mar 18, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Me too, but I'm getting better and better. Soon I will start with that. Anyway, the third dash is practically a godsend, especially when united with ares boon

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I've actually never used any of the dodge boons

amber garden Mar 18, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Zeus is good lol

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Zappy zappy

brisk trail Mar 18, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Zippy zappity... You all die

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My favourite thing is this game though is the spears ability to do 400% damage to armor with an upgrade

cloud jewel Mar 18, 2019, 4:08 PM

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i personally like aphrodite, zeus, and dio

sharp void Mar 18, 2019, 4:24 PM

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This game just got a TON harder with the new patch. Running 76 heat, and I can't even get to the second act yet.

peak crest Mar 18, 2019, 6:07 PM

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I think I found a Transistor reference in one of the rooms in Tartarus.. If you pay attention to Transistor's level design you'll see that the room is one from Transistor's with a Hades touch up

crystal pecan Mar 18, 2019, 6:13 PM

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@brisk trail I love the rail, but I only find it truly fun AFTER I get a Daedalus Hammer. I think the default reload time should be shorter or max ammo should be higher. The Special on it is great when you time it just right, but I could stand it being a little quicker to drop. This is coming from the guy who used the mortar cannon primarily in Bastion. squirtdevious

amber garden Mar 18, 2019, 6:15 PM

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The special is very slow, I agree.

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Though most weapons feel better once you get a Hammer

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My go-to gods are Aphrodite and Poseidon. Turns out control effects are pretty good.

crystal pecan Mar 18, 2019, 6:16 PM

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Poseidon is incredible. For me it's Poseidon and Dionysus as my favorites.

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Aphrodite a close 3rd

amber garden Mar 18, 2019, 6:19 PM

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I will say that the rail is the only special I'm confident in using alongside the left click

crystal pecan Mar 18, 2019, 6:19 PM

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@amber garden agreed that all weapons are better post-hammer, but to me it feels like some slight adjustment in the current defaults (fire rate, ammo capacity, accuracy) for Rail would make a world of difference. Every other weapon to me feels the right amount of powerful from the start, and Rail isn't quite there.

amber garden Mar 18, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Unlike the other weapons where it's either or

crystal pecan Mar 18, 2019, 6:19 PM

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Yes! That is where Rail really shines, I agree

amber garden Mar 18, 2019, 6:20 PM

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I totally see where you are coming from and I did not mean to diminish your request

crystal pecan Mar 18, 2019, 6:22 PM

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Man what if they made Daedalus a character?

winter orbit Mar 18, 2019, 6:38 PM

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I think that'd be really cool. Daedalus must be quite a character.

tulip lava Mar 18, 2019, 6:38 PM

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go go inspector gadget

winter orbit Mar 18, 2019, 6:38 PM

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I don't know if it'll make the game too easy, but it'll be nice to get a Daedalus keepstake so you start the area with a hammer

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Just like the god boon keepsakes

flint gust Mar 18, 2019, 6:40 PM

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The game can be as easy or as hard as you need it to be, just heat it up

crystal pecan Mar 18, 2019, 6:40 PM

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@winter orbit yes, my thoughts exactly

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@flint gust what's all this talk of heat? Am I missing something?

winter orbit Mar 18, 2019, 6:43 PM

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@crystal pecan maybe you should submit a feedback for it! I'd totally give it a thumbs-up 😃

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Some people consider heat spoiler: ||Heat is something that you get after you've beat the game. Basically another resource that you can use to increase difficulty of the game.||

spring cipher Mar 18, 2019, 8:08 PM

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I find the gun hammer upgrades to be boring

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And the special hammer upgrades are kinda okayish

winter orbit Mar 18, 2019, 8:51 PM

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Cluster bomb upgrade is pretty fun, but the rail never really worked that well for me. Aiming the special is weird on the controller.

thick chasm Mar 18, 2019, 9:48 PM

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I've found the triple bomb upgrade really difficult to use at high heat since the bombs only reset when none are in the air and the firing animation is forever

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single bomb is fine but I cant find the time to use more than one p much ever

dark locust Mar 18, 2019, 11:48 PM

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!feedback pls add large slow but hard hitting mace as a contrast fast melee weapons

olive jungle Mar 18, 2019, 11:48 PM

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Hi there, please submit feedback in #hades-feedback . We don't use bot commands to handle feedback anymore

alpine stratus Mar 18, 2019, 11:49 PM

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wow thats a blast from the past

crystal pecan Mar 19, 2019, 3:27 AM

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Where exactly in the files do screenshots get saved?

olive jungle Mar 19, 2019, 3:27 AM

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Should be your documents folder

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\Documents\Saved Games\Hades\Screenshots

sharp void Mar 19, 2019, 3:29 AM

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They are a little low quality, so I have just been using Alt+Print screen and then pasting to paint quick.

crystal pecan Mar 19, 2019, 3:30 AM

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@olive jungle ty

grim tundra Mar 19, 2019, 9:42 AM

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Hello! Not yet playing Hades, but I do wonder, apart from being able to help and test the game already, are there any bonuses to buying game now in EA? Additional skins or, idk, soundtrack or a potato-medal for being in EA?

olive jungle Mar 19, 2019, 9:43 AM

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There aren't necessarily any material rewards or anything, but you will almost certainly get to see story events and experience the narrative in a way you won't be able to once the game comes out

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Voice lines, ways of introducing new stuff, etc. that won't be in the final product

spring cipher Mar 19, 2019, 12:56 PM

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Stuff is being built and removed around the ea you will be experiencing things that dont make final product

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Like quick temper and avenging gain

sullen nebula Mar 19, 2019, 1:16 PM

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https://i.gyazo.com/eec4d9651afc97da47d8412be3f4c688.png

What does its flights are longer mean?

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it flies slower?

amber garden Mar 19, 2019, 1:18 PM

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I know I used it once but I forget, sorry. :(

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I found it quite good though.

void vigil Mar 19, 2019, 1:21 PM

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i dont think it means slower, i think it just means it able to be away from you longer before it returns?

amber garden Mar 19, 2019, 1:22 PM

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I seem to remember it did move slower while in flight. Honestly it's a good upgrade because it lets you use both attack in tandem, like the rail

sullen nebula Mar 19, 2019, 1:23 PM

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okay thanks

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it is quite slow

native atlas Mar 19, 2019, 2:04 PM

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Has anyone had a good run with the shield special?
It feels a bit anemic to me

fiery pebble Mar 19, 2019, 2:05 PM

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Nah it does fly slower

clever linden Mar 19, 2019, 2:12 PM

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I had a excellent run with the shield special once with Ares and the new boon for the curses, but I don't think it count since it was with the rapid fire hammer upgrade.

native atlas Mar 19, 2019, 2:13 PM

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With anything

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@clever linden

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I totally agree with the fact that not all the perks/builds should be competitive and that some builds are better/more fun than others.
But shield special just doesn't do it for me. I feel it lacks, impact, damage

brisk trail Mar 19, 2019, 3:04 PM

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I love posting Hades art in other servers

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And then everyone is like 😮 what game is this

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ive managed to get a few people to buy it too

alpine stratus Mar 19, 2019, 3:05 PM

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niceee

crystal pecan Mar 19, 2019, 3:13 PM

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@winter orbit I submitted my feedback in #hades-feedback about Daedalus Hammer keepsake. 👍

runic timber Mar 19, 2019, 3:35 PM

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Sup guys, where can I make a suggestion?

brisk trail Mar 19, 2019, 3:36 PM

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#hades-feedback

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😄

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make sure to read the pins in that channel first

runic timber Mar 19, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Thanks, btw, when you die, how you poeple feel that place, the 'Hades house'? like a house, like a prison or what?

alpine stratus Mar 19, 2019, 3:50 PM

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why not both

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"if i cannot leave heaven is it just a fancy prison" yahoo answers.png

crystal pecan Mar 19, 2019, 3:51 PM

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@runic timber I imagine it like if someone were to make a lavish mansion out of a Greek monument

runic timber Mar 19, 2019, 3:56 PM

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What I'm trying to say it's that I don't feel it like a house either a prison, the people 'living' there it's doing nothing, just standing, should be better if they are doing something, don't you think? that's why I'm asking who you feel that place.

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How you feel*

amber garden Mar 19, 2019, 4:01 PM

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I think it's more related to the family. House Hades is Hades, Nyx, Zagreus and then everyone under their purview like Dusa, Achilles, or Meg.

runic timber Mar 19, 2019, 4:05 PM

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I don't know what the dev's intention was in first place, how we need to feel that place. That's why I don't know if I should suggest a more 'lively' house. With characters doing activities, walking, or something. Or instead, we should feel that they are trapped there. What do you think?

amber garden Mar 19, 2019, 4:07 PM

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It is hell

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Zagreus is the only one trying to escape. The rest are all employees or prisoners

gleaming crane Mar 19, 2019, 4:13 PM

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It's more of an office. Employee lounge, people on the job, shades coming and going, etc. Zag lives here, but that's because he's the only jobless one. Hades might have a room but since he pretty much works 24 hours a day, there's not much use to it.
None of the named characters are prisoners of the House itself, they're more prisoners of their job.

runic timber Mar 19, 2019, 4:15 PM

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@gleaming crane that's make sense, but they are doing nothing most of the time anyway

topaz flicker Mar 19, 2019, 4:16 PM

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What happened to Meg?

brisk trail Mar 19, 2019, 4:17 PM

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I do like the idea of the NPCs maybe moving around a bit

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or having some idle animations

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 4:17 PM

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what do you mean what happened to her?

runic timber Mar 19, 2019, 4:18 PM

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@brisk trail yeah, that's why I'm suggesting

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That's what*

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So you can feel something is happening there, and is not only a place when you go when you are killed

gleaming crane Mar 19, 2019, 4:20 PM

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They don't do nothing. Hypnos sleeps on the job but he's supposed to be standing there maintaining the list. Hades is at his desk taking care of the shades coming in. Dusa's cleaning, she just has no animation for it, but that's why she can spawn in several spots. Meg just relaxes when she's there. Cerberus sleeps at his Master's side. Achilles has been hired to train you so he doesn't have much to do. Orpheus sings sometimes but is mostly just trying to find a reason to do so. Nyx is pretty much the only one really doing nothing.

runic timber Mar 19, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Yeah, there's ghost drinking (I guess) but i don't feel that's enough

brisk trail Mar 19, 2019, 4:21 PM

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I dont think its a top priority or anything but for example like Meg or Achilles having an animation for sitting down and eating/drinking at a table would be nice rather than them standing in the lounge

topaz flicker Mar 19, 2019, 4:22 PM

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I haven't run into her

runic timber Mar 19, 2019, 4:22 PM

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@brisk trail of course isn't a priority, but will make that word a bit deeper, and real.

topaz flicker Mar 19, 2019, 4:22 PM

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since I started playing again

brisk trail Mar 19, 2019, 4:22 PM

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youll get there eventually

runic timber Mar 19, 2019, 4:23 PM

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And most important, credible.

brisk trail Mar 19, 2019, 4:23 PM

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yeah id like to see it to

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not before proper models for the whole cast tho : P

runic timber Mar 19, 2019, 4:24 PM

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@brisk trail i think you're right :P

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 4:27 PM

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she'll show up occasionally

gleaming crane Mar 19, 2019, 4:27 PM

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That's part of the issue. Why would they make Nyx's model do something when it's not even her final model? That's not an urgent thing and it would just be work that's gonna be deleted at some points.

brisk trail Mar 19, 2019, 4:28 PM

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also sparrow i just checked the wiki god bless thank u 👏

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 4:28 PM

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wh-what did i do 👀

brisk trail Mar 19, 2019, 4:29 PM

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a lot of edits

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 4:29 PM

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oh

brisk trail Mar 19, 2019, 4:29 PM

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helped get it back up to date 😄

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 4:29 PM

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yeah

native atlas Mar 19, 2019, 4:29 PM

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@crystal pecan while i haven't discussed it with others i personally think putting in a guaranteed dedalus hammer would break the game
Edit 1 : May break the game*

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as there are lots of high power level upgrades

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 4:29 PM

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i need to finish up the gods but the problem is that i gotta be in the Proper Mood to sit and go through the numbers and whatnot

brisk trail Mar 19, 2019, 4:31 PM

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we got a loooong time till the next update so hopefully everything is caught up by then

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 4:39 PM

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oh noooooo i jsut realised they changed the little heat skulls so they aren't the round candy-looking bois any more ;3;

near totem Mar 19, 2019, 4:45 PM

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@gleaming crane is achiles not a guard of the house of hades, he just happens to also train you

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 4:49 PM

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he's guarding the doors to hades' private quarters

gleaming crane Mar 19, 2019, 4:53 PM

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I believe he's been hired to train you, and only got the job to guard those doors after what happens that lead Zag to try escaping. He's specifically guarding them from Zag.

vale kite Mar 19, 2019, 4:53 PM

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ok but sometimes achilles isnt there so what stops us from entering 🤔

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maybe zag doesnt want achilles to get in trouble for failing at his job

gleaming crane Mar 19, 2019, 4:56 PM

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Door is also locked and Hades is not far. Achilles is an additional layer of protection.

void vigil Mar 19, 2019, 5:04 PM

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omg no, the candy heat

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F

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 5:06 PM

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blobsob

📎 unknown.png

signal spoke Mar 19, 2019, 5:07 PM

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how would you picture candy heat tasting? i cant imagine it being anything other than something like big red where its so cinnamony that its spicy

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 5:09 PM

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i don't know but i know that the cronch would be spectacular

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look how glossy it is

signal spoke Mar 19, 2019, 5:09 PM

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yesss true

tulip lava Mar 19, 2019, 5:25 PM

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Candy heat emoji

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Pls

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 5:26 PM

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heat

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a friendly boy

flat vapor Mar 19, 2019, 5:27 PM

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friendly yet deadly

hallow lark Mar 19, 2019, 5:29 PM

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I... I lost a run

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after a ~35 streak! this update though 💯

tulip lava Mar 19, 2019, 5:34 PM

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aw

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@hallow lark will you do heat runs on stream?

remote saffron Mar 19, 2019, 5:34 PM

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what if it's like

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nuclear levels of artificial orange flavor

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like you take several cans of orange soda and evaporate all the water out

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and then crystallize what remains

tulip lava Mar 19, 2019, 5:35 PM

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Just dump orange crystal lite in your mouth

hallow lark Mar 19, 2019, 5:35 PM

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@tulip lava I did some before with tenebrous veil, but I'm much more of a fan of the base game as is

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it's certainly challenging enough with the new update too

tulip lava Mar 19, 2019, 5:36 PM

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Cool cool

hallow lark Mar 19, 2019, 5:39 PM

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video will be up in a few hours, you can see what happened haha

gleaming crane Mar 19, 2019, 5:43 PM

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At what heat did you do that 35 streak?

hallow lark Mar 19, 2019, 5:58 PM

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mostly 0

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about 5 or 6 runs were with max tenebrous veil

gleaming crane Mar 19, 2019, 6:01 PM

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If you're at the point where you can get such high streaks, I recommend getting some Heat on. Like 20-25 to make things a bit challenging but not too much. Death Insurance max, more enemies, maybe a bit less healing for you and prices a bit higher and you'll still win often but have a harder time with it.

crystal pecan Mar 19, 2019, 6:09 PM

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@native atlas anecdotally, I would say I get a Hammer perk option at least once every other run. I'm not convinced it would break much as it is about as available as any gods' perk. And I think some god perks are just as powerful depending on how you use them.

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 6:10 PM

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in the first room you get either a hammer or a god boon anyways

vale kite Mar 19, 2019, 6:21 PM

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if i were sgg i'd add a 1% chance of getting an onion at the start just because

signal spoke Mar 19, 2019, 6:23 PM

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Hades packed you a lunch

native atlas Mar 19, 2019, 6:24 PM

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The thing is, the hammer unlocks certain playstles fairly consistently ( some epic and legendary boons also do)

gleaming crane Mar 19, 2019, 6:25 PM

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That could be an addition to the Pact of Lolz. Heals have a chance of being replaced with onions.

vale kite Mar 19, 2019, 6:30 PM

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pact setting: food is poisoned

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and you drop an absurd amount of it

gleaming crane Mar 19, 2019, 6:33 PM

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I really want Hypnos' Pact of Lolz to become a thing.

hot vector Mar 19, 2019, 6:42 PM

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Anyone got any stupid challenges? Streaming hades, and getting a tad bored doing normal runs

tulip lava Mar 19, 2019, 6:45 PM

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One dash

hot vector Mar 19, 2019, 6:45 PM

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Only one dash?

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cool that be my next run

tulip lava Mar 19, 2019, 6:46 PM

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Lol I meant no dash upgrades but sure only one dash allowed the whole run

hot vector Mar 19, 2019, 6:46 PM

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nah gonna do the no dash upgrades lol

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https://www.twitch.tv/r3viv3 - if anyone wants watch and give me stupid runs to do

Twitch

r3viv3 - Twitch

Hades: Viewer Challanges + Heat Runs | Murder Kill Update!

▶ Play video

tulip lava Mar 19, 2019, 6:49 PM

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How about: Take money whenever available, buy everything from wells

hot vector Mar 19, 2019, 6:52 PM

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So I have to get everything from wells when I can?

tulip lava Mar 19, 2019, 7:01 PM

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Yes

hot vector Mar 19, 2019, 7:04 PM

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Sweet thats my next one, doing the one dash run now

gleaming crane Mar 19, 2019, 7:10 PM

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Tenebrous Veil is often a good challenge, because you have to take what the game gives you.

amber garden Mar 19, 2019, 7:29 PM

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good patch. excited to try the rail again

foggy kiln Mar 19, 2019, 7:35 PM

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Yay! One of my reported bugs got fixed!

lethal shoal Mar 19, 2019, 7:36 PM

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which one?

foggy kiln Mar 19, 2019, 7:37 PM

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Uh... I don't know how to do spoiler tags, so suffice to say, there's a Boss that should have a 2-4-6 pattern of... things, and I got 2-6-6 a couple of times.

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 7:37 PM

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fingerguns

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spoilers go like ||this||

foggy kiln Mar 19, 2019, 7:38 PM

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||Test||

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Yay!

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||Hydra Heads|| should have been 2-4-6 and I got 2-6-6.

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But I still won! 💪

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 7:39 PM

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a number was 12 when it should not have been 12

foggy kiln Mar 19, 2019, 7:40 PM

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PS-Thank you @hexed smelt

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 7:40 PM

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i'm going to go look at the files and update the god pages again i guess :'D now that gamepedia is back

lethal shoal Mar 19, 2019, 7:40 PM

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Man, I got that feeling like there was something harder about it, but can´t point my finger at that.

foggy kiln Mar 19, 2019, 7:41 PM

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Well, it didn't happen every time.

hexed smelt Mar 19, 2019, 7:42 PM

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i wonder what thanatos's new entrance animation is though 👀

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i hope it's Dramatic

wanton hare Mar 19, 2019, 7:47 PM

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Can you still encounter meg?

radiant tangle Mar 19, 2019, 7:48 PM

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Yes

digital garnet Mar 19, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Im so sad guys, I have to use an old mac and I cant update my OSX anymore which means no epic games, which means no hades )':

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I'm like one version below TTWTT;;;;

amber garden Mar 19, 2019, 8:08 PM

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😦

tulip lava Mar 19, 2019, 8:11 PM

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hades isn't on mac anyways

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at least for now

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we can sit in the no PC corner together

runic timber Mar 19, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Why is everyone talking about the ||hydra|| boss?

amber garden Mar 19, 2019, 8:26 PM

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Patch fixed a bug in relation to it.

runic timber Mar 19, 2019, 8:28 PM

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The 2-4-6 ||heads||?

amber garden Mar 19, 2019, 8:28 PM

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Yeah

runic timber Mar 19, 2019, 8:32 PM

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Oh, i was without internet like 2 weeks (until yesterday) and didn't see that problem (or maybe didn't payed attention lol)

gleaming crane Mar 19, 2019, 9:29 PM

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#h1-builds-and-combat as you should not spoil this in #h1-discussion but sure.

bronze swift Mar 19, 2019, 9:29 PM

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Gotchya

tall marsh Mar 20, 2019, 4:38 AM

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run stats*

prisma wind Mar 20, 2019, 4:39 AM

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You can only see full stats after winning, but if you have the Scrying Pool in Zag's room you can see you total number of escape attempts

timid tiger Mar 20, 2019, 12:06 PM

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Hey, sorry for asking, but is it against any rules to download a save? And if it's not, could anyone lend me one? I lost my save formatting my computer, had 10k+ darkness, all keepsakes maxed out and max ambrosia on everyone. Really don't feel like grinding that all again.

olive jungle Mar 20, 2019, 12:08 PM

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I don't think it's against any rules?

flint gust Mar 20, 2019, 12:24 PM

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Why wouldn't it be? I mean, epic doesnt have achievements and steam has systems to prevent using external saves

If someone knows where you should put it, and is willing to give it to you, i see no crime

timid tiger Mar 20, 2019, 12:28 PM

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Well, then if anyone could lend me a save I would be very greateful

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grateful*

clever linden Mar 20, 2019, 12:31 PM

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I don't mind. Here's my save => https://ufile.io/pcl72

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I guess this only file is enough?

timid tiger Mar 20, 2019, 12:38 PM

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Now I'm trying to find the saves file, is it under a different name?

clever linden Mar 20, 2019, 12:39 PM

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It's in My documents(or whatever it's called)/Saved Games/Hades

timid tiger Mar 20, 2019, 12:41 PM

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oh

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i thought it was in the games folders

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thanks!

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didn't work

gleaming crane Mar 20, 2019, 12:46 PM

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Also, while it comes too late for Hades, always back up your important save files. Even for Steam games with Steam cloud compatibility. You're never safe from a corrupted save or Steam cloud just borking. Losing my Starbound save with several hundred hours on it was really awful and I wouldn't wish that kind of thing on anybody.

timid tiger Mar 20, 2019, 12:47 PM

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actually, nvm

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it did work

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i was doing it wrong

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thank you very much! Although it feels a little cheaty to have triple the darkness I had before lol

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and the heat statues haha

clever linden Mar 20, 2019, 12:49 PM

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No problem. dusa

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Well, you will have time to redo all that before the next patch shadesmile

brisk trail Mar 20, 2019, 1:03 PM

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i've heard some stuff about te epic games store and that game progress is cucked

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so if i were to uninstall Hades now and then install it again

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would i lose my progress?

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or nah?

gleaming crane Mar 20, 2019, 1:05 PM

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I'd say nah. Reason Yoryd lost everything is because they removed everything by reinstalling Windows.

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Always make back-ups though. Always.

sick tree Mar 20, 2019, 1:08 PM

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| Hades: Babe, what's wrong?
Persephone, (drunk, scratching two of Cerberus' heads, weeping):
I don't have enough hands! 😭
Cerberus's third head: (whine~) |

A message from my girlfriend, sent this morning...

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I love my girlfriend~ gilmanlove

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squirtnya

gleaming crane Mar 20, 2019, 1:14 PM

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As someone with three dogs, I feel exactly the same. Found a way though. Pet two of them, rub your head on the third.

prisma wind Mar 20, 2019, 2:01 PM

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I think someone already linked it in maybe #fan-works , but https://twitter.com/LindaSejic/status/1106711287566925826

Linda Sejic/Sigeel💬 (@LindaSejic)

I kept getting tagged in this post on tumblr so I decided to draw it LOL

original post here: https://t.co/N95qPWuROu

Retweets

1783

Likes

4752

hardy plank Mar 20, 2019, 2:09 PM

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Hello.

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Is this game getting any DLC/expansion type content?

prisma wind Mar 20, 2019, 2:10 PM

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The game isn't even out of Early Access yet, so I don't think there are currently any plans for DLC

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More content will be added over the course of Early Access, though, if that's what you're wondering?

hardy plank Mar 20, 2019, 2:12 PM

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Basically wondering if I should try playing it now or wait for a year for playing the "full" game with DLCs if any are coming.

sick tree Mar 20, 2019, 2:14 PM

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It is worth noting that they refer to the final game as V1.0
So they may continue to add some content after the initial release, at some point in 2020
But it would be another first for SGG

prisma wind Mar 20, 2019, 2:14 PM

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That's up to you, really. If you want a complete story without having to wait, then I'd say wait for full release. If you want a chance to help shape the game and experience aspects of the game that won't make it to full release, then give Early Access a try

sick tree Mar 20, 2019, 2:14 PM

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So, I wouldn't worry about it

hardy plank Mar 20, 2019, 2:15 PM

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Does the game have an ending of sorts right now?

sick tree Mar 20, 2019, 2:15 PM

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a narrative ending?, no

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It's an ongoing story,
About half the areas are in the game but only about a quarter of the story has been told (I think, it's hard to tell)

vale kite Mar 20, 2019, 2:19 PM

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i havent read the roadmap in a while but i think they want to put the story after everything else is done

sick tree Mar 20, 2019, 2:20 PM

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They tell us about their mile-stones in terms of features and content but the story is a closely guarded secret

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Does that answer your question @hardy plank

hardy plank Mar 20, 2019, 2:23 PM

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Yeah I think I'll wait.

sick tree Mar 20, 2019, 2:26 PM

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I'm enjoying it, I'd say get it, interacting with the Discord and giving feedback is a big part of the experience, as far as I'm concerned
but it's up to you, hypothesising about how they're gonna handle (spoilery spoiler spoiler) and (spoilers) can be kinda stressful

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😅

verbal swift Mar 20, 2019, 2:27 PM

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I apologize if you have already asked - when will Russian be added to Hades?

sick tree Mar 20, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Eventually, I suspect, but we have no idea when exactly @verbal swift

verbal swift Mar 20, 2019, 2:31 PM

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@sick tree It is very long, I already want to play)

crystal pecan Mar 20, 2019, 3:05 PM

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I'll bet this has been brought up before, but do y'all think we'll ever encounter Hercules in Hades?

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Or perhaps Heracles?

radiant tangle Mar 20, 2019, 3:08 PM

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Heracles is how the game spells it, ||taken from the Codex entry for the Hydra. To me he seems to fall into the same category as Daedalus, where he's mentioned but not important enough to have a speaking role.||

burnt pond Mar 20, 2019, 3:08 PM

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Maybe if we get to go to either ||Elysium or the Isles of the Blessed||

sick tree Mar 20, 2019, 3:56 PM

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Hercules is Roman, Heracles is Greek

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Disney are just a bunch of liars

crystal pecan Mar 20, 2019, 3:57 PM

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@sick tree right, I was just about to say Disney, despite making a great movie, definitely makes me mix up those names.

sick tree Mar 20, 2019, 3:59 PM

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Apparently most people just really hate the name Heracles (probably because it sounds slightly more feminine than Hercules)
Disney aren't even the only ones to get the name wrong

spring cipher Mar 20, 2019, 4:04 PM

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Heracles sounds more feminine? I dont really see it but I guess that shows how subjective these things are

sick tree Mar 20, 2019, 4:06 PM

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Well, he's literally named after Hera....

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Queen of the Gods

golden jackal Mar 20, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Ironic, given their relationship 😂

sick tree Mar 20, 2019, 4:20 PM

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Certainly is

tulip lava Mar 20, 2019, 5:02 PM

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heracles was named alcides when he was born, and he was specifically renamed "glory of hera" in order to appease hera and get her to maybe not try to kill him so much

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so i just don't like hercules for losing that connection

astral lagoon Mar 20, 2019, 5:03 PM

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disney hercules good movie tho

flint gust Mar 20, 2019, 5:08 PM

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All pre 2010 disney movies tbh

Changing topics, though, what's exactly the difference between pom and heat gate pom?

hexed smelt Mar 20, 2019, 5:08 PM

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heat gate pom ups the rarity

flint gust Mar 20, 2019, 5:09 PM

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So it makes common boons scale like rares?

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Sweeeeet

hexed smelt Mar 20, 2019, 5:10 PM

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no it just flat-out changes the boon up one stage with the associated increase in power and then applies the pom

tulip lava Mar 20, 2019, 5:10 PM

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spicy pom

flint gust Mar 20, 2019, 5:11 PM

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Ooooh... that's still pretty rad though

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Can't wait for the next update to hit, gonna go for elysium in the first run

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Sword is gonna be rough, but I think I can do it

tulip lava Mar 20, 2019, 5:16 PM

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oops

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no spoilers

pastel nacelle Mar 20, 2019, 6:38 PM

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What engine does hades run on?

brisk trail Mar 20, 2019, 6:41 PM

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Iirc it's a proprietary in-house engine

digital garnet Mar 20, 2019, 7:13 PM

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Would someone be able to boot hades and tell me how many days we are away from update? I would do so myself but im on a computer that can't download epic games' launcher and by extension, can't run hades ):

clever linden Mar 20, 2019, 7:15 PM

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48 days left

dark owl Mar 20, 2019, 7:45 PM

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amazing game btw. can't name one game to rival this in late 2018 - 2019 that fits under the action rogue lite genre

gentle cipher Mar 20, 2019, 8:14 PM

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Y'all keep nerfing Artemis :((

pine magnet Mar 20, 2019, 8:21 PM

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how can i post in feedback ?

signal spoke Mar 20, 2019, 8:21 PM

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check the pinned posts in the channel please!

pine magnet Mar 20, 2019, 8:21 PM

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thanks !

digital garnet Mar 20, 2019, 10:09 PM

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@clever linden thank you for replying to me with the days! I appreciate it! (also nice akihiko icon : D )

low leaf Mar 21, 2019, 3:12 AM

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Any chance at Ultra Wide love?

haughty juniper Mar 21, 2019, 5:05 AM

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Game used to run smoothly at constant 60fps. Today it's locked at 30 fps somehow when I was playing it. (Actually, the game jumps from 60fps to 30fps, then stay there for a while, and jumped back to 60fps. repeatedly.)

pine magnet Mar 21, 2019, 6:29 AM

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Me too

ancient marlin Mar 21, 2019, 12:00 PM

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Hi, how do i get access to the feedback channel? Sorry.

olive jungle Mar 21, 2019, 12:01 PM

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Check the pinned post in #hades-feedback

unique igloo Mar 21, 2019, 12:26 PM

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So what's everyone's favorite voiceline/quote from the game?

olive jungle Mar 21, 2019, 12:28 PM

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probably a better question for #h1-story-discussion

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;)

worn ferry Mar 21, 2019, 3:28 PM

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Lol I think I've got the all time worst ratio for up vs down votes in the feedback channel. 1 up to 50 down shadeembarassed

hexed smelt Mar 21, 2019, 3:29 PM

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i don't see any messages from you in feedback?

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ah, no, wait.

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hey discord include the "from:" when i search next time

worn ferry Mar 21, 2019, 3:30 PM

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Haha there it is

hexed smelt Mar 21, 2019, 3:30 PM

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but hey sometimes folks just disagree with a thing you said, it's not like it's a personal attack on you

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"i don't agree with this" is not the same thing as "you suck and i hate you"

worn ferry Mar 21, 2019, 3:31 PM

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No I totally get that, I'm not taking it personally at all. Just thought it was funny because I haven't seen a ratio like that before haha

sullen nebula Mar 21, 2019, 3:32 PM

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Tisiphone is definitely easier for me

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Very noticeably

worn ferry Mar 21, 2019, 3:34 PM

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Agreed, she's very easy to read. I thought about it more and alecto is probably in a good place, her spinny floaty blades have caught me quite a few times

hexed smelt Mar 21, 2019, 3:35 PM

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i struggle with tisphone because i've barely fought her

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i keep getting alecto

worn ferry Mar 21, 2019, 3:37 PM

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Ah rip gilmanangst she does get a bit rough in the last phase where there's so little room to move

arctic plaza Mar 21, 2019, 3:46 PM

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any prediction of when the dialogues will be translated?

brisk trail Mar 21, 2019, 4:33 PM

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Hello, any place to report little bug i found?

alpine stratus Mar 21, 2019, 4:37 PM

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Press f10!

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(While hades is open)

brisk trail Mar 21, 2019, 4:39 PM

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Oh thanks, but is it possible to send 2 screens instead?

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ITs bug with choosing keepsakes

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Okay i send one but well explained

vagrant dune Mar 21, 2019, 6:26 PM

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havent posted in here for a while, why cant i post in feedback

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?

golden jackal Mar 21, 2019, 6:27 PM

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check pins i think

vagrant dune Mar 21, 2019, 6:28 PM

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thx, didnt see that point

brisk trail Mar 21, 2019, 8:05 PM

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Can anyone tell me what is the last artifact in the codes?

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I have it locked tho i have no clue how given i've done almost everything

astral lagoon Mar 21, 2019, 8:06 PM

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#h1-story-discussion :d

brisk trail Mar 21, 2019, 8:06 PM

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ooooof

native atlas Mar 21, 2019, 8:20 PM

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<@&456908176877551658> , Maybe, you know, who among at the awesome people at SG is in charge of sound effects and such?

burnt pond Mar 21, 2019, 8:21 PM

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From what I know, Darren does a large chunk of the Music and Audio design side of the fence.

hexed smelt Mar 21, 2019, 8:22 PM

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he's the only one listed with anything related to audio in the Big Ol' List, so yeah

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darren's the audio boy

brisk trail Mar 21, 2019, 8:29 PM

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i kinda wish Hades didn't release on the epic games store

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i do understand why it did it, from a developer standpoint

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but if it had come out on steam

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it would've gotten much more fans

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ya know

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cuz this game is just under everyone's radar

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only cuz it's on that store

astral lagoon Mar 21, 2019, 8:31 PM

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GWqlabsSpyEyes

brisk trail Mar 21, 2019, 8:31 PM

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I mean Epic are cool

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objectively

hexed smelt Mar 21, 2019, 8:32 PM

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epic games store discussion goes in #off-topic-discussion , not in here

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also, please don't swear.

brisk trail Mar 21, 2019, 8:32 PM

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well it's related to hades?

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:v

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i don't wanna argue with a mod but i am just saying

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but aight

burnt pond Mar 21, 2019, 8:33 PM

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Right but this is a channel for discussion about the game, not the platform on which it is distributed.

native atlas Mar 21, 2019, 8:54 PM

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For anyone liking the "Distant Memory" trinket, the range check for the damage increase happens when the attack hits the target, and not when it is launched/started. I tested this using the Adamant Rail special, and dashing away right after.

azure edge Mar 21, 2019, 9:31 PM

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Hello artist friends! Do you guys have any good reference pictures of Zagreus that I can steal?

golden jackal Mar 21, 2019, 9:39 PM

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are you looking for a full scale? isometric view?

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google helps a lot, but if you mean something like sprites, here you go

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oh, i can't send pics

azure edge Mar 21, 2019, 9:40 PM

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Sprites is actually exactly what I had in mind, thank you.

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You can DM them my way, perhaps.

golden jackal Mar 21, 2019, 9:41 PM

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sure thing

olive jungle Mar 21, 2019, 10:17 PM

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@azure edge just FYI, full res sprites are uploaded to the wiki, hades.gamepedia.com/

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*portraits, i mean, sorry just woke up haha

odd sand Mar 22, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Hello! Looking to purchase a copy and send to a friend as a gift. Epic game store does not appear to offer this capability. Is there any way to do this?

prisma wind Mar 22, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Aside from just giving them the money to buy it themselves, not yet

brisk trail Mar 22, 2019, 12:02 AM

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https://trello.com/b/GXLc34hk/epic-games-store-roadmap

Trello

Organize anything, together. Trello is a collaboration tool that organizes your projects into boards. In one glance, know what's being worked on, who's working on what, and where something is in a process.

prisma wind Mar 22, 2019, 12:02 AM

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Gifting is on Epic's roadmap, but I think it's one of the "no timeframe" items

brisk trail Mar 22, 2019, 12:02 AM

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It's a ways away

odd sand Mar 22, 2019, 12:03 AM

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Thanks for the info

brisk trail Mar 22, 2019, 6:19 AM

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oh eff ya

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my last run I did 310 damage on a critical hit

prisma wind Mar 22, 2019, 6:22 AM

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Pretty good start, depending on the weapon! Crits are fun

brisk trail Mar 22, 2019, 6:22 AM

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I was running that spear man

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I had a thing where every hit on the way back was a crit

prisma wind Mar 22, 2019, 6:23 AM

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Vicious Skewer katesNice

brisk trail Mar 22, 2019, 6:23 AM

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and then picked up a god gift or something that gave me 125% damage on every crit

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and another one where it gave me a 20% chance of crit and a 48% damage bonus on my special attack

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so I was really stacking

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man I didn't think I'd like a rogue like game like this one but it's really freaking growing on me, the music is perfect

prisma wind Mar 22, 2019, 6:25 AM

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It really is a very good game

brisk trail Mar 22, 2019, 6:25 AM

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I also managed to beat meg for my second time ever in the game

prisma wind Mar 22, 2019, 6:25 AM

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Congrats!

brisk trail Mar 22, 2019, 6:25 AM

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apparently she did not do well against all that other stuff plus the 50% bonus damage for having a cast on them

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because there is that one mirror ability that gives your bonus damage on stuff

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for some reason I am getting random lag spikes in game though

prisma wind Mar 22, 2019, 6:28 AM

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Yeah, that happens sometimes when there's a lot going on

brisk trail Mar 22, 2019, 6:28 AM

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Ya I've noticed that might be fixed in the future though

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Early access game and all

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Was really annoying when it happened during Magerera

prisma wind Mar 22, 2019, 6:29 AM

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Playing in windowed borderless might help if you aren't already, and turning off native OpenGL renderer in the launch settings

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Info on that is in #hades-tech-fixes-old

brisk trail Mar 22, 2019, 6:31 AM

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I always play windowed borderless but I haven't screwed with OpenGL rendering

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I'm not seeing that setting though

prisma wind Mar 22, 2019, 6:31 AM

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Anyway, congrats again on your progress! I'm off to sleep

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It's a launch parameter in the Epic Launcher, not in Hades itself. There's instructions in the tech fixes channel for how to set launch options

brisk trail Mar 22, 2019, 6:33 AM

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Okay

prisma wind Mar 22, 2019, 6:34 AM

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The first post gives instructions for where to enter it, the last post has the OpenGL command line to use

brisk trail Mar 22, 2019, 6:34 AM

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Okay ty for the help

tawny pollen Mar 22, 2019, 9:07 AM

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so

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it feels like the spear is the easiest weapon

flint gust Mar 22, 2019, 11:45 AM

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It is the most rewarding for the least weapon mastery - just point and Q

half surge Mar 22, 2019, 1:25 PM

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For anyone with a non standard gamepad, does it work natively with Hades or do you need something like x360ce for it to work?

prisma wind Mar 22, 2019, 1:56 PM

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Define non-standard?

low leaf Mar 22, 2019, 2:00 PM

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https://www.x360ce.com/

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Which would let you use a 360 controller

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through a third party application

half surge Mar 22, 2019, 2:06 PM

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non standard as in not an xbox/ps4 controller

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I solved the issue in the end

plain musk Mar 22, 2019, 2:21 PM

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So do I just have really bad luck or are other people regularly getting boons of every god but the one they have the trinket for?

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Past the first obviously

half surge Mar 22, 2019, 2:21 PM

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That's sort of normal, since the trinket only works for the first boon in an area

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But probably just bad luck

plain musk Mar 22, 2019, 2:21 PM

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It just never felt this bad

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Like I would usually get them at least again at some point

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But I currently have a boon for: zues, athena, ares, aprho, artemis and poseidon

prisma wind Mar 22, 2019, 2:27 PM

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Sometimes that's just how it do, yeah

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The RNG gods have frowned in your direction

plain musk Mar 22, 2019, 2:28 PM

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Yeah

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It's just been super consistently like that since the last update

alpine stratus Mar 22, 2019, 3:49 PM

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guys if i streamed hades would u b interested

radiant tangle Mar 22, 2019, 3:49 PM

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Yes

alpine stratus Mar 22, 2019, 3:49 PM

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nice....dowloadin a streaming app as we speak

spring cipher Mar 22, 2019, 4:00 PM

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Which one

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Also I need hades content but at the same time I find playing the game more interesting

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I'm so conflicted

alpine stratus Mar 22, 2019, 4:15 PM

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OK I GOT IT WORKING BUT THE LAG IS WILD

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dropping it in self promo

brisk trail Mar 22, 2019, 9:54 PM

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I hate how hard it is to advance the story of Thanatos. He shows up in like 1/6 runs for me. :/

prisma wind Mar 22, 2019, 11:18 PM

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The effort must really be killing you

brisk trail Mar 22, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Jesus

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I just killed Megera without even losing a second chance

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That was epic

prisma wind Mar 22, 2019, 11:21 PM

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Congrats! It feels great to improve

astral lagoon Mar 22, 2019, 11:21 PM

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its worth it for than!!!!!

brisk trail Mar 22, 2019, 11:22 PM

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Ya she seemed easy this time

amber garden Mar 22, 2019, 11:32 PM

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Huzzah! Getting better!

low leaf Mar 22, 2019, 11:35 PM

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Is there any way to re roll the rarity of the starting boon or what boons are given after the start of the run?

brisk trail Mar 22, 2019, 11:35 PM

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Made it to the last boss for the first time

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And I died

mellow bluff Mar 23, 2019, 12:21 AM

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Any words of hades coming to steam? Not a big fan of epic games

topaz flicker Mar 23, 2019, 12:21 AM

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Whats with Thanatos acting all tsundere to zag

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 12:22 AM

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Other platforms will come when the game leaves Early Access (likely sometime 2020) @mellow bluff

olive jungle Mar 23, 2019, 12:33 AM

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Than's Just Like That

prisma bolt Mar 23, 2019, 12:43 AM

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Hello I have a problem last time i stop playing i was with a lot of things in this game and now : not any game save

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is it normal?

olive jungle Mar 23, 2019, 12:49 AM

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Sometimes Windows antivirus will stop the game from saving. Make sure you have Hades whitelisted in your antivirus software

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Oh, I see, your lost your old saves

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Some people have reported losing progress. I don't think there's a fix or anything - you can try renaming the .bak file, as described in #hades-tech-fixes-old

brisk trail Mar 23, 2019, 12:51 AM

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So what made you guys decide to design the Gorgons as just floating heads? Was that a nod to the mythos of having Medusa's head lopped off or was there some other symbolism behind it? 😮

prisma bolt Mar 23, 2019, 12:56 AM

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didnt worked 😦

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i guess i need to give it a chance they changed a lot of things

gleaming crane Mar 23, 2019, 1:16 AM

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Always back up your save files. For any game. Always. Never forget. Back them up. All the time. In several places. Just in case. Don't forget. It's important. Back ups.

mellow bluff Mar 23, 2019, 1:19 AM

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Awh man I haven't played since the 9th of january and so much has changed! I've really enjoyed all the new stuff im finding! Thanks guys!!
What's everyones preferred weapon?

prisma bolt Mar 23, 2019, 1:35 AM

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ahah 3rd try and i killed meg :p

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i ll catch up this back up so fast

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 2:46 AM

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I killed meg on second try I think

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Sword and spear are the best weapons

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 2:47 AM

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That's an opinion squirtheh

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 2:47 AM

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Well

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Considering hitstun in this game seems to be important

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Having weapons that can be used with dash the best with a lot of knockback and damage seems crucial to me

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And considering spear has so far in my playthrough the longest reach of all the melee weapons

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Pairing that with armor piercing boons makes for a deadly combo

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 2:49 AM

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Weapon effectiveness plays for more towards personal playstyle than an arbitrary scale

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 2:49 AM

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True

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I’m just saying objectively

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Spear and Sword seem to be the better weapons of choice considering their high damage and knockback

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Since knockback allows you to cancel enemy movement and attacks

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 2:50 AM

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I personally favour Bow as top and Spear as second

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 2:51 AM

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Effectively making combos with sword and spear (which have infinite hitstun) give you an effective shield from damage in combat

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And also, dash attacks with sword and spear are near instant

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Knockback is also important due to wall slams doing insane amounts of damage

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I like bow but I feel its too slow for how fast enemies get later on

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 2:59 AM

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I'm glad to see that sword and spear have been working out so well for you! I personally have a hard time with sword. I don't think bow is too slow, but it requires a different tactic than the other weapons (which can really be said of them all)

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:00 AM

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Sword and spear are easy

gleaming crane Mar 23, 2019, 3:00 AM

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To me Bow>>Spear=Rail>Shield>>>Blade

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:00 AM

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I just mash attack and dash

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:01 AM

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Playstyles vary, and thus so do the weapons that work best for people ¯_(ツ)_/¯

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:01 AM

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I just feel like bow is difficult given the amount of enemies in a given room

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And I feel like its kinda bad to use so much time trying to dodge so much with bow

gleaming crane Mar 23, 2019, 3:03 AM

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I see your eyes aren't open to the Truth that is Poseidon on bow.

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:03 AM

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Dashing is integral to the dash attack strat on bow, so you aren't wasting any time at all, in my experience

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Since in these kinds of games you want to be able to kill all the enemies as fast as possible so as to take as little damage as possible

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:04 AM

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I can clear a room way faster with bow than I can with sword

gleaming crane Mar 23, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Bow has piercing and high damage. Definitely more than enough to kill all enemies fast.

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:05 AM

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But little knockback

gleaming crane Mar 23, 2019, 3:05 AM

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With the way I usually play, sword is often complete garbage. Opinions and all that.

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Why would you need knockback when you melt your enemies?

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Knockback isn't the be-all-end-all. You still hitstun, and if you want knockback you just get Poseidon

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You're at range anyway

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Mh

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Fair enough

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But still, no knockback still puts you in a bad spot after you hit your attack

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Especially if you get caught at close rane

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Range*

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But what do I know

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This is just from my experience

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:07 AM

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It might be easier to just watch some high-level bow play if you want to see how it works. That said, I'm not trying to convince you to use it or anything, just saying that there is no objectively "best" weapon(s). Playstyle matters more than anything else

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:08 AM

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Mhm

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Fair enough

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Im just saying it seems like that way

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I’ve gotten way farther with spear than any other weapon

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Sword and spear are basically my go-to’s

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:09 AM

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It would actually be super interesting to me if SG ever released global stats on weapon clear rates

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Because I cant handle charging up with the bow

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Dash attack helps with that

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:09 AM

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True

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:09 AM

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The bow "dash attack" is a faster charge than normal

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:09 AM

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Yeah

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But its hard to get the timing on bow dash attack

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Because its a smaller window

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:10 AM

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Eh, it becomes muscle memory if you do it for a while

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Get into a real good rhythm of non-stop dash attack power shots

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:10 AM

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Whereas with spear and sword you can just press the two buttons at the same time and hit the dash attack

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:10 AM

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There's definitely a higher barrier of skill, I think, to effective bow play

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:11 AM

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Mhm

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:11 AM

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But the same could be said of positioning and attack combos with other weapons

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:11 AM

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Theres a big skill gap

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You mean?

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:11 AM

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Well, you have to know how many hits you can get in at melee range on a given enemy

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And your animation locks

gleaming crane Mar 23, 2019, 3:11 AM

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I always pick the weapon with Dark Thirst. Those are my clear stats:
https://i.imgur.com/WcDNg2K.png

Imgur

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Blade way below the other ones.

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:12 AM

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My last stats on clears are as follows:
Sword: 6
Spear: 13
Shield: 2
Bow: 18
AR: 5

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:13 AM

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You know the thing is that with sword, you rely on dash attacks and your special more than anything

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:13 AM

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It would be kind of nice if they had a comparative "attempts" number to go with clears, though

cloud jewel Mar 23, 2019, 3:13 AM

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tbh i rarely rely on special with sword

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if i get flurry blade i'm set

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:13 AM

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With sword you rely on getting wall slam

gleaming crane Mar 23, 2019, 3:13 AM

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You know the thing is that with bow, you rely on dash attacks and your special more than anything

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Deflect/knockback on bow special is a godsend ( Kappa ) sometimes

gleaming crane Mar 23, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Blight too.

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Wall slam is ridiculous thou honestly

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I also love spear thou

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Getting extra armor damage from hammer on any part of the spear is like

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You hit special once and recall and it shreds the shield

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Armor I mean*

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Ridiculous stuff man

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Also I believe all attacks on spear can be animation cancelled with dash

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Also btw

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Ive only gotten to floor 27 still

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Its weird cause this game vaguely reminds me of monster hunter

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Like a uhh

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Dark souls/Binding of Isaac/Monster hunter

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/Diablo

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I guess my playstyle shows that thou

minor hornet Mar 23, 2019, 3:22 AM

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I think "roguelute" is the accepted denomination these days

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Yeah

minor hornet Mar 23, 2019, 3:22 AM

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er

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roguelite

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Roguelute

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Floor 27 as in you've beat ||The Bone Hydra|| or just that you've gotten to it and not cleared? Confused about the phrasing

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:22 AM

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Nah roguelute

minor hornet Mar 23, 2019, 3:22 AM

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okay then

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roguelute

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:22 AM

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I lost to ||hydra||

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Gotcha

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Ye

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That thing is like

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Annoying

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I dislike the shields

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Floor 27 is ||the last floor currently in the game, so don't feel too bad||

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Oh

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Ohhhh

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Wow

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:23 AM

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Next biome will be released in May

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:23 AM

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That was my uhh

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:24 AM

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So you have until then to figure that whole situation out

placid spindle Mar 23, 2019, 3:24 AM

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I just started yesterday btw

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Last night I mean

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I played for a couple hours then slept

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Then I got back on the game for a couple more hours and got there

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||benis hydra||

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But wow I didnt expect that

prisma wind Mar 23, 2019, 3:26 AM

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Fear not, there's still plenty of challenge ahead if you get past where you are