h1-discussion

[dark jolt]

YES THANK YOU SO MUCH for the link

[jagged portal]

I find it interesting watching how the game changes

[dark jolt]

I just don't know if I trust Epic Games

If it were on Steam I'd have already smashed the buy button

[jagged portal]

thats fair but I tink itll be atleast another year or so before the full launch

so I didnt want to wait

[dark jolt]

Hnnn...

Last time I bought something on the EG store they charged me 6 times, never gave me my game, and it took them 2 weeks to get back to me on a refund by which point I already called my bank for fraudulent charges

[signal spoke]

Side note, If you don’t want to spoil yourself on music you haven’t heard in game yet, I believe the song used in the trailer is Out of Tartarus

[dark jolt]

(Thanks Mad <3)

[olive jungle]

Yeah Epic has definitely had a rough launch and I can understand if that's a problem for you, but if it makes you feel any better the game itself is DRM free and you only really need the Epic launcher for the purpose of updates

There are definitely aspects to the early access game that won't make it into the final version, so if you want to be here to watch the game grow and change that's also something to consider

[dark jolt]

Hnnnn

You're not wrong

And it's a Supergiant game so I know it won't just be abandoned @_@

The universe just told me to buy it because I logged into my account and had a $15 credit? So

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[olive jungle]

oh sweet
well, there you go!

you'd be coming in at a good time, there's a major update coming out....uhhh today

[dark jolt]

sjfl;kjd

Yessss

Good

[olive jungle]

time zones are hard

somewhere in the next 12-18 hours there will be a major update to the game let's just say that

[dark jolt]

(Sorry, I'm really not usually this spazzy but I got so excited at seeing a new SG game xD)

Perfect

[signal spoke]

If you think that is spazzy you should have seen how crazy I went on the reveal trailer

[olive jungle]

https://tenor.com/T6jv.gif

[signal spoke]

Oh my god it’s been 3 months

[olive jungle]

you weren't a mod then

[signal spoke]

Ven it’s been one fourth of a year

[dark jolt]

Hahaha

[signal spoke]

True I was not

[olive jungle]

the world is a different place now

time flies when you're playing hades

[dark jolt]

So I take it that it's addicting?

[olive jungle]

i certainly enjoy it gkjdfgfd but it can be tiring too

[signal spoke]

You gotta balance your want to play the game with your want to not burn out

[olive jungle]

not in a like "i'm sick of this game" way but in a. yeah, burnout way

[dark jolt]

I'll keep that in mind

But burnout is rare for me

looks at 500 hours on Slay the Spire

[olive jungle]

sounds like you'll have a good time then haha

[spring cipher]

Yall change your name to random puns every patch I dont remeber who's who

[olive jungle]

i'm sorry

if it helps my nicknames always have my username in them

[signal spoke]

I’m gonna miss thighonysus

[olive jungle]

same.

oh my god i messed up and said diothighsus earlier no wonder that looked wrong it was THIGHONYSUS all along

prayer circle for 🙏 thighnatos 🙏

[signal spoke]

Omg

[dark jolt]

Thighnatos? Thighonisis? I'm in the right place

sticks leggy out real far

[olive jungle]

its ok we all already know he'll be wearing the obligatory house of hades modesty tights

[dark jolt]

Oh, thank you Epic Games

For trying to auto-download Fortnite without my permission -.-

[flint gust]

Oh cmon

I had epic for months now, never once was it anything than perfectly functional

Besides, off topic

[dark jolt]

Well I've had a very different experience

It's loaded

vibrates in Greek

God that combat feels GOOD

[rotund plover]

What time does the patch go live?

[clever linden]

In at least in 11 hours, probably.

[misty willow]

reading through a month of the feedback chat was surprisingly interesting.

[limpid goblet]

And now we wait

[limpid goblet]

I'd say It's like 10 or 11 hours for me if it comes at the same time as last time

[slender monolith]

Oh no

11 hours

[rancid crown]

Im totally patient

Not wanting to play the update right now nope

Juuuuuust patiently waiting and watching the seconds on my watch passing by

[limpid goblet]

Just look at the wall until you heard the discord ding that the update is live

[rancid crown]

I mean its a pretty cool wall

You know, it kind of reminds me of the [redacted] wall we cannot pass

Damn do we know what scale of update it will be? Probably no new act right? Only read about 3 new voiced characters

[olive jungle]

please don't use the final boss' name in this channel ^^

As for a new area, no, that's not coming in this update.

It's still really early for that to be done.

[limpid goblet]

This update just adds a second bouldy

And nothing else

[olive jungle]

The three new characters are all we know for sure, although SGG has graciously reacted to the feedback in the feedback channel to indicate some more changes that will be coming.

[rancid crown]

sorry, edited it although a bit late

Bouldy?

[olive jungle]

[limpid goblet]

[flint gust]

[quartz blade]

🔫 🗡

[ancient elk]

So because of thanatos and furies do people think maybe a new floor?

Or is that still a long time coming

[olive jungle]

I think that's still a ways off

[hot vector]

Well I can still dream aha

[quartz blade]

alternate 2nd floor boss would be nice

[foggy kiln]

I wouldn't be surprised if the new biome came in today. If we have three new characters, what's the chance that one (or more) is a new boss?

[ancient elk]

Maybe the furies are alternate 1st floor bosses :0

[limpid goblet]

That would be the most plausible thing

I'd say

[foggy kiln]

I would like to see alternate first biome MINI boss however

[ancient elk]

Maybe plotwise the sisters come back from the war after beating the 2nd floor boss

Or theyll just remove that narrative

[hot vector]

If we get a new biome I guess we will be getting one of the furies

Just

[limpid goblet]

Don't use the name of the snakey boy here

[ancient elk]

Thanatos would make a really cool 3rd floor boss

[hot vector]

I don't think we will get that biome for another few months

[foggy kiln]

If it isn't in this update I'd be surprised if it wasn't in the next

If they are doing 1 update/ month and want four biomed by end of year...

[ancient elk]

A new floor is a heck of a lot of work, i think itll come when it comes

[foggy kiln]

Oh sure

[olive jungle]

yeah it's. it's not this update, i can say that with a good bit of certainty

[foggy kiln]

I'm just thinking with their roadmap it has to come soonish

[hot vector]

I think we will probably get a new floor around mayish

[ancient elk]

I mean 4 floors total or 4 floors added?

[olive jungle]

4 total

[foggy kiln]

4 total?

4 total!

[ancient elk]

Cus 4 floors total they have a long time to work on 2 more floors

[hot vector]

May/June means that the 4/final floor will come out for launch (2020)

[olive jungle]

tartarus and asphodel took over a year

and asphodel isn't really...finished, it doesn't seem

[ancient elk]

And theyre still adding stuff to it

Yeah

[foggy kiln]

I wonder of the roadmap will change in this uodate?

[olive jungle]

so i think early summer is probably the earliest you can expect a new biome

it's for sure not this update

[hot vector]

Asph is only 10 chambers anyway

Not 15 like Tart

[ancient elk]

Tbh idm if they keep refining what they have to make the game better with what its got

[foggy kiln]

Fair

Meg is always Chamber 15 and <redacted> is always... 26? (You'd think that after ~70 runs I would know this...)

[olive jungle]

something like that

[foggy kiln]

Is there any pattern to when Recovery Rooms come up (that we know of)?

I'm always surprised by them. And I don't get them every time.

There's no, like, difference in the room symbol that says "This is a recovery room as opposed to a normal fight"?

[limpid goblet]

If you've been good this year, you get a recovery room

[foggy kiln]

Well.
$#!@.

[olive jungle]

hahaha

[foggy kiln]

I'm screwed.

[olive jungle]

yeah there's no visible difference

[gusty nimbus]

But what feels bad is that sometimes you get them when you have full hp and the water is kinda useless 😛

But that is also what makes it little bt fun

[limpid goblet]

Hey

Zag gets thirsty

[olive jungle]

zag subsists on a very healthy diet of poms, onions, the occasional gyro, and mineral water

[limpid goblet]

^

Rarely does he partake in sharing some ambrosia with friends

Wholesome fellow

[olive jungle]

never overindulges either. truly a well-balanced lifestyle

[limpid goblet]

Indeed indeed

Wait...

Does Zag eat the darkness to grow stronger ? Or just display it on the mirror 🤔 HMM

[void vigil]

crunchy

[olive jungle]

(sound of glass shattering)

[limpid goblet]

Oh no

[olive jungle]

hot take: darkness would have the consistency of rock candy

[limpid goblet]

Oh, now it seems better

[alpine stratus]

dark candy...

[limpid goblet]

One thing though

It tastes like Durian fruit

EHeheheh

[olive jungle]

as long as it doesn't smell like durian that's just fine

[limpid goblet]

^ Also true

[flint gust]

I just wish my update doesnt freeze like last time

[fresh orchid]

Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old

[flint gust]

I love this bot so much

[olive jungle]

😦

proxy's doing its best

[hollow rock]

I find it really funny that Zagreus is using Poms to escape the underworld

[narrow slate]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-pampered-spoiled-cute-dog-pom-gif-4436326

Oh wait wrong one 😃

[hollow rock]

Petition for Pom Cerberus skin

[young slate]

Can the final weapon just... be Cerberus?

[naive verge]

a dog whistle from the gods?

[young slate]

Like, you blow a whistle and his paw bursts from the ground to attack enemies

YES

[narrow slate]

Nah last boss is Cerberus and you ride him out like the end of Bastion

[naive verge]

i'm in purely for the ridiculous dialogue that's sure to spark

[alpine stratus]

boss fight against hades and cerberus
cerberus picks up hades in one of his mouths
the many headed hound repays the prince for years of kindness. go!

[narrow slate]

😃

[livid cargo]

It transitions to a nintendogs-style fetch minigame

[hollow rock]

The best port of nintendogs

[narrow slate]

Riding Cerb for the end of the game is epic.. I'm out mom and I brought my dog

[hollow rock]

Meanwhile the number of poms he ate means that he spends 9183627183 months in the underworld per year

[foggy kiln]

The temptation to dial that number and just ask "so you have pomegranates?" is... not low.

[hollow rock]

XD

[narrow slate]

I wish the update had an hour timer when this close. The day timer thing is a kind of annoying. But stuff needs to be a checked etc

[alpine stratus]

it cant have an hour timer bc even they dont know!

[hollow rock]

An hour timer also means they probably gotta have it absolutely done before release day, which means that the release would probably be tomorrow

[narrow slate]

Grandpa controls the updates I guess 😃

[vernal dove]

I would personally prefer it if they had it done the day before and then have a specific time on the next day on the actual release. Less stress for them, and more satisfied players knowing exactly when we can play 😃

[olive jungle]

I assume they're doing it the way they prefer to do it

[vernal dove]

Yeah of course I understand that. But the way I see it, if they did it the way I said it would be a win-win for both sides. But you can disagree with me of course.

[hollow rock]

I prefer this, since that means I have access to it earlier given my hectic schedule

And I can’t speak for how they feel about it, but whenever I finish a drawing I wanna post it right away, even if it’s the dead of night, and the idea of putting a timer on it is like an 8 hour itch

[nocturne verge]

you can just pretend it comes out tomorrow if you'd like

[rigid marlin]

i hope thanatos or hypnos gets featured later on

[trail raven]

ITS PATCH DAAAYYY

[nocturne verge]

[ebon slate]

Today?

[nocturne verge]

ye

[void vigil]

it is!!!!!!!!!!!!

[trail raven]

PEW PEW PEW PEWWWWW

❤

[nocturne verge]

they're west coast so their work day is just starting

[ebon slate]

10pm?

[nocturne verge]

unknown, by evening on the west coast

[ebon slate]

Nice

[errant torrent]

last time it was approximately 8 hours from now

[elder forge]

live in france brrauuppdattee

8H ? O.O

[narrow slate]

Guess I better take off 100 skulls if there's new content 😃

[hollow rock]

Nooooo 8 hours from now is when my three hour class starts

[elder forge]

and here i though i'd be streaming hades for 8pm lmao, it'll be 11pm at this rate

[naive verge]

the last 2 happened around 2-3 PM EST. so i imagine their goal is before noon PST

[elder forge]

Ho, this might fit

[narrow slate]

Hey to pass time what's everyones most hated mob?

Mines Armored Skull

[elder forge]

shieeeellllddeerrr

void crystal iirc

[nocturne verge]

GORGON

DEF

[hollow rock]

THE POTS

[errant torrent]

all i hate are the fat blobs from the first act. playing around their pounce/charge is so 😐

[hollow rock]

DEAR GODS THE POTS

[alpine stratus]

skullcrusherrrrr

[hollow rock]

MAKING MY CHARGES IMPOSSIBLE

[nocturne verge]

skullcrusher is up there

i have such a hard time even seeing gorgon shots, they're stealthy

[narrow slate]

Pots but only in large groups then it's like f-it gunna lerroy this

[nocturne verge]

then lead to getting skullcrushed

[narrow slate]

LEEEROOOY as the ground explodes everywhere

ugh gorgon Para at the wrong time is bad news 😦

[nocturne verge]

ye i prioritize them so hard i probably take more damage doing it

[narrow slate]

I really don't mind casters except groups of super-casters

When they just chill hovering over the lava

SPeaking of lava I really need a way to get food out of the lava

....

[nocturne verge]

chaining dashes makes you not get hurt by lava / traps

you can triple-chain all the way out then back in off the map in asphodel without taking a tick, if you're fast enough

[narrow slate]

true then what about when food gets in a normal empty space

you can't dash it

I think have a clip somewhere

[nocturne verge]

the tartarus empty spaces are all dashable i thought

i've had food lodged in a wall, but never over a void/obstacle

[narrow slate]

Yeah I had it lodged between two dash areas over pit it would not pick up

it was stuck nowhere land

hmmm trying to find the footage from runs would be a pain but yeah it can happen

[summer pewter]

Is spear in danger of being nerfed? By far the most useful wep I've unlocked

[nocturne verge]

probably not

they're all great in the right hands

[summer pewter]

I guess I'm just a spear type~

[foggy kiln]

My hands are not the right hands for the bow...

[narrow slate]

Shield Hero though Bow Training

[nocturne verge]

spear or shield seem to be the most common for people to take to quickly

[foggy kiln]

Spear and Shield? Yes please.

I've had some good runs with the gun too

[nocturne verge]

ye rail has some nutty builds but is maybe more boon dependant than shield

[narrow slate]

I mean Shield is RIsing in popularity I hear (anime pun)

[summer pewter]

Do special attack blessings activate with every shot of the bow special?

[foggy kiln]

I like rail + dionysus personally

[summer pewter]

cuz that could make bow really good actually

[nocturne verge]

you mean like all the shots make foes weak?

[narrow slate]

So I like bow special with Aphro or Nep cuase the effect is insane

[summer pewter]

Or cause lightning bolts, etc

Whatever the blessing is

[narrow slate]

yea

[summer pewter]

Daaayum

[narrow slate]

Bow + SP = an ton of that thing

[brisk trail]

whats the best boons you guys had?

[nocturne verge]

ares curse damage

[brisk trail]

i think Zeus is pretty OP

[nocturne verge]

probably

[brisk trail]

i allmost never use the bow tho

[narrow slate]

damn I can't paste images

[nocturne verge]

zeus is good but the curse stacks super high with poms

[brisk trail]

true

[nocturne verge]

and mixing it with artemis "all your damage has a chance to crit" gets nutty

[brisk trail]

but the lighting damage chain is a super good Crwod

Crowd control effect

[nocturne verge]

lighting is my favourite cast i think

[brisk trail]

specially in asphodel when there's like less platforms

lightning is my favorite basic attack buff

poseidon being my least favourite

[nocturne verge]

lightning basic attack spear was my first favourite build

when i was first learning the game

[brisk trail]

im using the Gun thing

that's pretty insane with zeus

[nocturne verge]

o yea that attack speed great im sure

[brisk trail]

yah

i would say the shield was my go to

[fallow goblet]

Anybody knows when todays update is live?

[limpid goblet]

Depends on your timezone

[nocturne verge]

within like 8 hours

[brisk trail]

Ares / Aphrodite buffs o that is pretty insane

im eu <---

[nocturne verge]

shield ares special is very consistent and safe

[brisk trail]

so probably tomorow for me

[narrow slate]

https://imgur.com/a/Cd38Rg2

[fallow goblet]

Just give any time zone

[brisk trail]

yeah asphodel was a bit bad for shields tho

[narrow slate]

THIS IS WHY I LOVE BOW

[limpid goblet]

Not tomorrow for Eu probably just really late

[nocturne verge]

theres a hammer upgrade that lets you use shield primary while the special is in flight

[limpid goblet]

like 23:00 or later

[brisk trail]

i could never get behind the stuck anims of the bow

yeah i never saw that tho

[summer pewter]

Most OP I've been is having the auto-crit spear special upgrade, plus anti-armor and Zeus bolts.
I felt so busted.

[brisk trail]

i always say bounce more, damage redux and some charge bs

[fallow goblet]

Also need to know what time zone you are talking about

[nocturne verge]

thats why i answer in ETA, not time on clock

within 8 hours probably answers it for any time zone

[limpid goblet]

Just about yeh

[brisk trail]

8 hours from now would make 23:37 here

[fallow goblet]

Tnx

[limpid goblet]

00:37 for me 😄

That's about the time the last update was live for me 🤔

[brisk trail]

hmm

so probably when i get home from town

anyway least favourite boon is probably poseidon

altho i can see the allure of pushing enemies back into walls

the problem is

Asphodel doesnt have any walls and most enemies are pretty mobile or untargetable

so it allways never feels worth picking that

[narrow slate]

Push them into lava

[brisk trail]

Athena is niche, in my opinion

[limpid goblet]

The witches are flying enemies though

[brisk trail]

the slow is a drawback

yeah

[limpid goblet]

Also the Mini gorgons

[brisk trail]

and you got the crushers

most enemies jump or are flying

poseidon is great early

but falls off later

[limpid goblet]

I still like Artemis and Ares the best

[nocturne verge]

i cant stand athena dash

[narrow slate]

Yeah Surreal I get yeah

Just too much work

[brisk trail]

yeah i mean the boon is nice and all

but the draw back in a fast paced game

is kind of a death sentence

[hollow rock]

My fave right now is Dionysus

[nocturne verge]

ye id rather just not have it if im playing a non-ranged build

[narrow slate]

Though her reflect SP is nice 😃

[nocturne verge]

yea reflect special can be a run-saver on bow

[brisk trail]

Dionysus is fine

Aphordite is one of my favourite debuffs

[hollow rock]

Does anyone like the cast boons rn? I can’t use them since they mess up Death Sentence

[brisk trail]

i once had a legendary boon show up that had a chance to make enemies fight for me

i dont use cast most of the time

[nocturne verge]

cast boons are low priority for me but def nice to have

[limpid goblet]

Aphrodite legendary is kinda worthless though

[brisk trail]

the only cast i use are like very god reliant

[nocturne verge]

if you have a full mirror, cast is very worth using

[radiant surge]

Dionysus+Special Bow Skill= Win win.

[nocturne verge]

even boonless

[brisk trail]

not really because it also works on the hydra heads

[limpid goblet]

Still

Kinda iffy for the games as it's so short now.

[brisk trail]

casts i use are poseidon, zeus, artemis, dionysus

[limpid goblet]

Also , full Ares cast runs are probably the easiest runs in history

[brisk trail]

i mean.. still helps when you dont have to do all the damage

that crushers can help you crush other enemiesd

never tried ares it's cast

also doesnt show up much often

[nocturne verge]

mixing up boons with regular attacks is def a dps upgrade no matter what though

[radiant surge]

Cast with Artemiss is a little bit op if you got a few booms

[hollow rock]

Don’t the cast boons prevent you from locking bloodgems into enemies?

[nocturne verge]

no

[brisk trail]

i got a support from artemis that fired a homing shot with my basic attack

[nocturne verge]

only like

dionysus

[hollow rock]

Or have I just been unlucky with the ones I used

[brisk trail]

wich was zeus on the adamant rail

[hollow rock]

Ah oof

[brisk trail]

so i had sparks flying everywehre

that was some insane synergy

[radiant surge]

Lovely image

[radiant tangle]

Dio and Ares casts don't lodge bloodstones

[nocturne verge]

ah yea ares

[radiant tangle]

The others all do

[red coral]

Dio and Ares and Aphro don’t get the mirror bonuses on cast

[radiant tangle]

Aphrodite does

[nocturne verge]

ye aphro sticks

[red coral]

Oh k

[hollow rock]

Ah, thanks yall—

[radiant surge]

Ares cast is still bad?

[radiant tangle]

Ares cast is a different playstyle, and it can be great if utilized properly

[nocturne verge]

ares cast is pretty decent damage

[red coral]

My easiest runs are with Ares Cast

[pale frigate]

Especially if you can get the higher-tier boons

[limpid goblet]

Ares cast has never been bad

The blender is the greatest thing to cheese the game with 😄

[nocturne verge]

especially for handling crowds of smaller enemies while you pay attention elsewhere

[brisk trail]

what does ares it's cast do

[nocturne verge]

AOE blender

[brisk trail]

since i havnt seen it shown up

[limpid goblet]

Blends

[brisk trail]

ah

[red coral]

Launches a blade rift

[brisk trail]

like the dash?

[nocturne verge]

yea

[red coral]

But almost twice the damage or more, yeah

[brisk trail]

sick

[limpid goblet]

And there are many great boons to go with the rifts

Like Black metal or the legendary

[brisk trail]

when i find one of thosde

sure to try it out

[nocturne verge]

the benefit of casts is always being able to burst huge damage with almost no animation or cooldown

[narrow slate]

Black Metal is monsterous

[nocturne verge]

spamming 6 ares casts is nuts

[red coral]

Yes give it a shot, it’s a great mob control move

[pale frigate]

+75% area increase ares cast is ridiculous and fun

[brisk trail]

im all up for mob control

it's kinda needed in asphodel

and probably up

if they add a new level

i like the adamant rail carpet bomb

mixed with dio

[nocturne verge]

speaking of mob control, the dio boon that spreads poison stacks nearby

is insanely good

[brisk trail]

yeah

[nocturne verge]

i only tried it yesterday

[brisk trail]

dio is a good boon

[nocturne verge]

if i was trying insane heat i'd probably restart for that

[hollow rock]

One complaint, I used it on a boss and the screen went black and my heart stopped because I wasn’t attacking and I thought I was the one that died

[nocturne verge]

with shield special

lmao

yea i can see that getting me too

[hollow rock]

What happens if you die after beating the boss in asphodel, like you just stand in the lava

[brisk trail]

the path of pain is pretty good

[nocturne verge]

i dont think it matters

[brisk trail]

gives the game that needed replayvalue

to make things harder for you

wich i like

[nocturne verge]

you already have the win, the next thing that happens is || you "die" anyways ||

[brisk trail]

true

[finite zodiac]

whens the update drop...

[brisk trail]

8 hours from now

[nocturne verge]

by end of day on west coast

[void vigil]

theres no set time!

every patch day, its a surprise

[hollow rock]

No I know you ||die anyways|| I’m just wondering if there’s anything special for managing to ||legit|| die right after you beat it

[brisk trail]

can't wait for the drop

gonna start fresh

because my own game file ^^

[red coral]

Spoiler tags please

[hollow rock]

Ohh, have you beaten ||hydra|| yet?

[red coral]

But if you’re gonna be discussing ||the final boss|| you may want to take this to #h1-story-discussion

[hollow rock]

good point

[brisk trail]

i mean?

is that even a spoiler?

it's literally the second level

[red coral]

Yep, final boss is still a spoiler

[hollow rock]

Given how early in development the game is, its late game rn, i guess

[void vigil]

it is the last boss haha, id say thats a spoiler

[brisk trail]

oh ok

sorr yabout that then

[red coral]

It’s all good

[brisk trail]

ii just thought because it's pretty straightfoward

it's not really a secret thing right

but i guess that early in development is a good arguement

[red coral]

Well this channel is meant to be safe for anyone who’s just picking up the game and wants an as blind experience as possible ahaha

[brisk trail]

and not many people are , particularly good at this type of games

hmm

good to know

didnt even consider it to be a spoiler

[red coral]

Ye ye, all the other Hades channels are spoiler friendly

[brisk trail]

hmm ok

anything else thats considered spoiler territory?

[red coral]

The ||true reason Zag wants to escape|| is also a spoiler. Those two are the biggest ones tho

[brisk trail]

oh yeah

that i know

but that's like super story related

so i wont talk about the story at all

i just didnt put the last boss in that same camp

[red coral]

That’s a good rule of thumb haha

[brisk trail]

it's the one i usually live by

nice im gonna be active here

since im really in love with this style of game

and since i bought it i felt like i wanna join the discussion

are the devs active too?

i have one other discord where the devs actively talk with the community

[red coral]

The devs are pretty active! Naturally cause of EA they’re pretty busy but they make time to chat

[brisk trail]

nice thats good to hear

so far i have literally no trouble with the game

maybe poseidon feels a bit.. underpowerd with his boons that just give stuff

feels a bit lack luster compared to the other boons

[nocturne verge]

im generally more inclined to take games as they are then think about what they're not

[brisk trail]

i mean i allways look at them at their own merrit

[nocturne verge]

like if i dont like a boon i tend to assume its the way the devs want it and not to my tastes

[brisk trail]

but i can deffinetly see some similairities with others of that genre

[nocturne verge]

not that thats right

[brisk trail]

i mean yeah. but sometimes the devs just dont really look at a bigger picture or like it's added in as something fun

but not really useable

something like that

[nocturne verge]

ye im glad others are there to give that kind of feedback

i just dont think that way

[brisk trail]

im more or less fine with how the game is, otherwise i wouldnt have paid for it

idk. is it wrong to say that you wish for a better fantasy for the god of the sea?

then just

give me stuff.. make stuff drop more. and knockbacks?

[nocturne verge]

i def seek out those knockback boons sometimes

on bow or rail or ranged

[brisk trail]

knockback is good early

[nocturne verge]

good against everything but bosses imo

[brisk trail]

but late it is allmost nullified by all the floaty flying and jumping enemies of asphodel

^that's exactly why currently im not really happy with poseidons boon range

[nocturne verge]

i usually want it as a single tool on whichever attack im using less

like on bow special when im using ranged for dmg or vice versa

so i can actively choose where i want enemies

also the wall slam damage is pretty big

with any knockback

[brisk trail]

yeah

but aspho dont have walls

thats what i mean with.. it loses its use there

that was major issue for the shield bounce that had nothing to bounce off of

[nocturne verge]

it does have walls tho

and pillars

its tricky to use sure but i use it

[brisk trail]

yeah it's less reliable tho

and more enemies fly

or are in the air

so it's really hard justifying that use

[nocturne verge]

if you're speedrunning

if you're running high heat and just need to survive

sometimes you want them away

[brisk trail]

would'be fine if there was a swap boon option

for a price

so im not stuck with something im no longer have a need for

[nocturne verge]

in general though i think knockback is super valuable positioning management, on asphodel i use it to knock one enemy into a group of enemies so i can kill them all at once

[narrow slate]

Hmm the point of a rouge game is getting that box of random.. switching boons would make it less fun

[nocturne verge]

i think its more of a playstyle difference that you dont like it

[narrow slate]

Learning to play with the tools given is the game 😃

[nocturne verge]

yea thats what i love about roguelikes

[narrow slate]

You can change the odds but fixing tis a bit much

[brisk trail]

yeah but you can also see where im coming from right

with the usefullness of knockback

in later stages

[nocturne verge]

i think its very useful in asphodel too

[brisk trail]

idk man, it got me killed more then it actually helped me

[nocturne verge]

if you're playing at heats where survival is harder than efficient murder

[brisk trail]

heat was 40 last time i played at a mate

[narrow slate]

100 heat plus is real challenge then it's like

skull mobs are monsters

You see a herd of death

[brisk trail]

yeah haha

i can get that

but this is the reason why i ask those questions

to see if others see my point of viuew

or if my point of vieuw is wrong, and i should look at it differerntly

[narrow slate]

Okay what about a random boon change

[brisk trail]

sometimes i make some solid points tho

[narrow slate]

😃

[brisk trail]

hmm that would be either really good or terrible

depends on what type of boon you're losing

or getting

[narrow slate]

which is why I like it

[brisk trail]

yeah

but you can lose your strongest boon, but i think it would be high risk high reward

when you're running semi ok boons

and get an option randomize one of em

that would be a cool chaos add

because that's literally Chaos wheelhouse

[narrow slate]

YEah

GRANDPERSON PUT THAT ON THE LIST

😃

I guess Grandparent is ether as well

[brisk trail]

the feedback list?

[narrow slate]

Hmm yeah I'll drop it there

[brisk trail]

sure

[narrow slate]

oh can't ... hmm

[brisk trail]

why not?

it's a command?

[narrow slate]

Hmm

#hades-feedback Add Boon Randomizer with CAOS as option.

[brisk trail]

ah

it's we need to discuss it in gameplay

and then they pick it and put it in feedback

[brisk spruce]

I mean

You can randomize a boon

[brisk trail]

it's the pinned message in feedback

[brisk spruce]

With chaos

[narrow slate]

I mean change a boon completely

[brisk trail]

1. This channel is for feedback only. If you’ve encountered a bug, report it in-game with F10.
2. This channel is not for discussion. Please discuss feedback in #h1-builds-and-combat.
3. Feedback should pertain to your experience playing the latest version of Hades.
4. Post one piece of feedback at a time. Provide context, though keep it concise.
5. Focus on your experience. You don't need to propose solutions.
6. To be able to post, first visit #bot-commands and type ?rank Early Access

that;s what the pinned message said @narrow slate

[red coral]

Feedback is locked when it gets close to patch time. Within a week or so of the next patch

[brisk trail]

that actuallly makes sense

[red coral]

Yeah. There wouldn’t be enough time to implement new feedback if it was coming 10 minutes before haha

[brisk trail]

hmm true true

ill save this for the next update

if they wanna look at it

i think it's a fun idea

[worn gale]

how long till it drops

I can't wait

[brisk trail]

6 hours from now

[alpine stratus]

give or take!

[dull iron]

excited

[mighty raven]

is it possible that we will get next floor in this patch?

[brisk trail]

idk.. they only said, 3 new npcs

soo

probably not

i think we get more story content

[mighty raven]

:/

[brisk trail]

but that's just my guess

[flint gust]

They also said 'guess who's coming next'

And we got Adamant Rail

[brisk trail]

and dio

and the pain level thing

[flint gust]

Well yeah, but nothing implied the rail which we nonetheless got, which is my point

[brisk trail]

true

but im just saying if they would put in a 3rd lvl

they would've kinda teased that right?

[amber garden]

Patch today or tomorrow?

[brisk trail]

today

[amber garden]

Thanks.

[brisk trail]

ETA 6 hours give or take

[flint gust]

Def no way, it took them 2 months for erebus, and that's just one room

[brisk trail]

right

and that's linked to the path of pain

or whatever that is called

[flint gust]

Heat was in chaos update

But all the same

I expect area 3 in may at the earliest

[brisk trail]

or idk.. half this year?

maybe they'll ad 2 levels

instead of 1

2 lvls per like 6 months

i can live with that 😛

[narrow slate]

So today they will add the god of time Chronos and the last two harpies and shyche as weapon (prediction)

[brisk trail]

no

God of Death Thanatos

[narrow slate]

hmm

[amber garden]

I don't think we get a weapon this week

[brisk trail]

the grim reaper of greece

hence the Sycthe

[narrow slate]

hmm chronos used sycthe too god of harvest

[brisk trail]

yeah but thantatos is allready noted in the game

by his brother ||hypnos||

[narrow slate]

ah maybe

[brisk trail]

it's the most sensible

[grave vault]

The shadow figure just might be Hecate; she's in triple form after all.

[brisk trail]

but those other 2 figures are allmost the same as Meg

and she does have sisters

[grave vault]

Scythe does not fit, but might be a trick (not really a scythe).

[brisk trail]

or it's 2 characters and 1 different character

might just be the 1 that doesnt belong with the other 2

it's deffinetly a scythe

[grave vault]

If these were the Fury sisters, the front one would be Meagera, and she doesn't have a scythe.

[brisk trail]

no

because megara is allready in the game

[grave vault]

yeah, without a scythe

[brisk trail]

the 2 in the back are furies the 1in the front is ||possibley thanatos||

[tardy flume]

wait

when the heck

is the update

[brisk trail]

why would you tease a character that's allready in game man.. that doesnt make sense

[velvet lion]

sometime today

[brisk trail]

6 hours ETA

give or take

[tardy flume]

WAT

I thot it would be at 1

rip

[velvet lion]

it goes live today when it is ready

[tardy flume]

alright

[brisk trail]

one of the mods said, 8 hours 2 hours ago

im keeping track

[velvet lion]

it could easily be sooner or later

[brazen stone]

Hades update, possible MCC PC news, Apex battle pass... Today went from boring to dope real quick

😮

I thought the latest update was further out for this for some reason

[livid cargo]

inb4 sgg throws out a bunch of new content and is like "we fooled you all the game was complete the whole time"

[hollow rock]

That would be bomb

[brisk trail]

how do i join the hades rank

[signal spoke]

check the pinned message in #bot-commands

[brisk trail]

i dikd

i did the ? and then the command

or am id oing it wrong?

[void vigil]

write ?rank Hades in that channel

[brisk trail]

thanks alma

did it

wait

[hardy oracle]

@brisk trail could you link me where the devs sayid its going to be in 8h

?

[void vigil]

There is no set time for the patch

It’s going to be out when it’s out, today

[narrow slate]

When the gods deem it so 😃

[brisk trail]

not the devs, one of the mods told me @hardy oracle

[velvet lion]

lol when the gods deem it so

when the music god that is darren korb is ready

and the other gods of development

darren probably isn't directly involved with patch day.

[narrow slate]

Look let them take their time, Yeah the gods make us wait better then the universe freezing due to mob overload etc

[fresh orchid]

Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old

[brisk trail]

but my tracker is on 5 hours ETA

[narrow slate]

lol

I wasn't reporting a bug yet you bot 😃

[livid cargo]

it autodetects for the word that is described when you put a lot of ice on someone

[narrow slate]

Going to have to use the words frozen water every time now

[fresh orchid]

Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old

[narrow slate]

dmn

[void vigil]

please don’t intentionally set off the boy, it helps.... sometimes

the bot*

[narrow slate]

not trying

[crystal mural]

aww, the boy

[void vigil]

I’m not fixing that, it is my boy now

[signal spoke]

the boy!!

[crystal mural]

the bot is hereby deemed Patroclus

[hardy oracle]

@void vigil wow, that was pretty aggresive. Im sure it will be, just wanted to adjust my timetable to record it today. Honestly, you discourage me hard. Not asking anymore dont worry.
@brisk trail ty

[brisk trail]

lol you call that agressive

she's just being assuring

[crystal mural]

hmm

[void vigil]

my apologies! It wasn’t my intention to be aggressive at all, only informative

[brisk trail]

^

[void vigil]

just wanted to say it is coming today for sure but that there is never a set time for it

[hexed smelt]

there is no set time for it and a mod would not give one either, just fyi

[narrow slate]

Someone should set the bot to spit back humorous Hades themed phrases whenever someone asks for patch time.

[crystal mural]

Yes, that would be great

[livid cargo]

mods, when is the next bad pun?

[crystal mural]

"Patch... I'll give you a patch"

[narrow slate]

"Cerberus looks hungrily at the impatient game poster"

[plush dagger]

'' Patch? I do not think so, boy. ''

[narrow slate]

lol

[waxen egret]

boy™

[warm schooner]

What time do you think the patch will be coming out?

[waxen egret]

I was just about to ask lol

[livid cargo]

Before Half Life 3

[velvet lion]

Soon TM

[waxen egret]

no no no

Soon™

[velvet lion]

when Zag escapes Hades

[narrow slate]

"Come on man settle down and have a drink. the party will start when its ready"

[waxen egret]

how can Zag get out of Hades if the patches don't go live 🤔

[velvet lion]

exactly

[signal spoke]

Because Hades just patches all the exits 😔

[flint gust]

I hope we get more Hades relationship content

[narrow slate]

I better be able to marry meg at end

[flint gust]

^^

[velvet lion]

nah only Dusa

[waxen egret]

The last level of the game is a Visual Novel

[narrow slate]

lol

[waxen egret]

I know

My father works at supergiant

[marsh nest]

my uncle is a super giant

[tardy flume]

wait seriously?

[waxen egret]

no lol

[tardy flume]

omg @waxen egret whats ur dad name

[warm schooner]

My giant is a super

[marsh nest]

WHAT

[waxen egret]

[marsh nest]

IS THAT ANOTHER SOL MAIN

[warm schooner]

YAAASSSS

[marsh nest]

i havent seen one in years

[tardy flume]

Everyone guys @waxen egret father works at supergiant!!!

[coarse narwhal]

@flint gust we are getting other two Furies, we could get ourselves a soap opera 😆

[signal spoke]

sol mains exist !

[waxen egret]

hahaha

[livid cargo]

whats a sol main

[tardy flume]

We can ask them on future updates!!!!!
.

[waxen egret]

they don't exist don't worry

[signal spoke]

but that is a chat for #off-topic-discussion

[waxen egret]

they can't hurt you

[warm schooner]

true sorry

[livid cargo]

alright well i think dusa best

[marsh nest]

btw the update will probably come out in about 1.5 hours or so if they keep up the usual trend

[velvet lion]

dusa is best

no one else matter

[marsh nest]

so stop asking

[tardy flume]

when did

the last update

come out

at what time

[velvet lion]

update will happen when it happens

all you need to say

[narrow slate]

"The prince paces in his room waiting to be on his journey once more"

[velvet lion]

if they expect to need to postpone it to tomorrow or another day they will let us know

[waxen egret]

I hope not cus I have today off

but um

[tardy flume]

WHAT POSTPONE? RIDICULOUS!

[waxen egret]

not tomorrow

[tardy flume]

SUPERGIANT IS A TERRIBLE COMPANY OMG

[marsh nest]

quiet

[tardy flume]

lmao

[plush dagger]

Hypnos voice '' 'Patch?' There's no one named 'Patch' on my list. Maybe you should try being more patient though! I'm sure they'll show up soon enough!''

[warm schooner]

Dude chill

[tardy flume]

./s

wow my favourite company supergiant games postpones their patch for one day! how terrible i will never support them again!!!

[narrow slate]

I'm telling ya that patch bot would be good idea

[tardy flume]

its ok I will wait all I want for a quality updatw

update*

F in the chat boys

[marsh nest]

shhh

[warm schooner]

[chilly stump]

F

But also a patch bot would be.... interesting. The issue becomes that a lot of bots are just term activated, so ANY time someone said patch they'd get a bot message.

And that's no fun, I think.

[narrow slate]

lol

[warm schooner]

It would be like getting

[narrow slate]

Hmm what about phrases like when is the patch

[void vigil]

is there any way to make it only react to messages that have both when and patch?

[chilly stump]

'What did you guys think of the patch this month?'
proxy: the next patch is march 12

[brisk trail]

@chilly stump what is the ETA tho on the patch?

[marsh nest]

when its ready

[chilly stump]

As many others have said, we have no stated time or estimate on the patch, other than... today! March 12, PST.

[brisk trail]

i was keeping track when someone said 8 hours 3 hours ago

[hexed smelt]

fuho, who said 8 hours?

[narrow slate]

DOn't believe endors lies

[livid cargo]

Caitlyn you can make bots ignore certain channels

[chilly stump]

Generally speaking, while people try their best to be helpful for patch times, I would always just go with the date given in PST due to the fact that..... no one actually knows when it will be out. And people often provide estimates without time zone context.

[coarse narwhal]

2 devs are playing Hades

[plush dagger]

hype

[brisk trail]

like in the latest, update doc

[velvet lion]

patch happens when the gods deem it is worthy for us

[void vigil]

no one knows, not even supergiant

[velvet lion]

^^

[brisk trail]

you have a goal you wanna get right?

[hexed smelt]

latest update doc?

[brisk trail]

the netdoc

about the good times update

[velvet lion]

you mean the noclip documentary?

[brisk trail]

or was it the chaos update

nclip

that's it

[void vigil]

the goal is in days, not hours

[brisk trail]

not netdoc

[tardy flume]

watch them release it right now

just slips it in

[velvet lion]

yea the goal is days not hours

also are the devs not always playing Hades?

[chilly stump]

Also Max, yes! We can remove bot access to various channels, but I imagine people would both be ASKING about the patch and DISCUSSING the patch here, so it may get a bit busy.

[tardy flume]

wait

3:00pm

thats the perfect time

noon for supergiant

im calling it

[livid cargo]

I find it funny that @fresh orchid checks for the trigger word "freeze" in here

[fresh orchid]

Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old

[tardy flume]

freeze?

[fresh orchid]

Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old

[tardy flume]

lmao

frozen

[fresh orchid]

Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old

[narrow slate]

I'm all for a guessing pool for update patch though

staaaap

[red coral]

Please don’t tease proxy y’all

[tardy flume]

Sorry Proxy

I love you too

[fiery pebble]

We really need to restrain proxy

[tardy flume]

sorry its just freezing cold where I live

[fresh orchid]

Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old

[plush dagger]

dude

[warm schooner]

Dude

[chilly stump]

That's sort of the issue, right? As soon as we add patch or 'patch when' or whatever to the bot system, we get both teasing and accidental triggering. 😄

[tardy flume]

heheheeh

I mean

uhhh

[chilly stump]

But also: no more bot baiting or I'm muting you.

[tardy flume]

obviously an accident

oh shooot

[narrow slate]

Okay I'll say 5pm

EST

[ebon slate]

People, was there any information about what is behind the doors in the house of Hades?

[tardy flume]

You just went from laughing around to dead, cold serious

THat's deep

[livid cargo]

Caitlin, both those issues can be avoided with custom solutions, but I understand if the team doesn't have access to any bot creators that are mods/otherwise

[marsh nest]

@chilly stump / rest of super giant. does the dev team have an OPT for zarius? bc mine is absoulty dusa and achilies +meg would be a good match

[brisk trail]

@chilly stump Bot = Triggerd!

[coarse narwhal]

last two patches launched around 7pm CET if I recall correctly

[chilly stump]

Wrong Caitlin! 😄

[velvet lion]

patch happens when it happens guys

[coarse narwhal]

that is in the next hour to hour and a half

[brisk trail]

oh greatt

[tardy flume]

its gonna be 3:00pm

remember me

[warm schooner]

@ebon slate Cerebus's doggie treats

[coarse narwhal]

but it doesn't mean anything

[livid cargo]

I only bring up proxy in here bc its easy to have him ignore this channel in particular

[narrow slate]

what time zone Iron

[coarse narwhal]

However, 4 devs are playing Hades atm

[tardy flume]

EST

[brisk trail]

changed it >.>

[livid cargo]

regardless im so excited for today's patch

[tardy flume]

12:00 pm Supergiant Time right

[narrow slate]

Okay EST 3:00 Iron . EST 5:00 me

[chilly stump]

@marsh nest I'm not actually sure! Though I think if anyone does, we'd rather not talk about them so you guys don't feel anything is more 'canon' than others.

[narrow slate]

lets see who wins

[tardy flume]

ok ;)

[narrow slate]

anyone else

[livid cargo]

even if we don't get another weapon or god i know you'll provide a lot more fun

[tardy flume]

This is the battle of the gods

Battle of the Furies

[marsh nest]

@chilly stump fair enough. but my head cannon is cannon bc i said so

[tardy flume]

To see who wins

[fiery pebble]

Wait, do we have the time now?

[velvet lion]

no

[signal spoke]

we do not

[plush dagger]

Head cannon?
New weapon confirmed /s

[narrow slate]

Nope no time just a betting pool

on the patch

[marsh nest]

@plush dagger ur my new favorite

[velvet lion]

just a gorgon head as a weapon

[brisk trail]

can we use dusa as a new weapon?

[chilly stump]

That's fair hedge!! 😄 I have to go for now, have fun on the time bets! Thank you for your patience and excitement everyone. 💖 👋

[crystal mural]

Thank you

[livid cargo]

Do you think you'll hedge your bets, @marsh nest ?

[warm schooner]

Love this community

[radiant tangle]

The problem with disabling proxy is that proxy is also the censor bot

[brisk trail]

OOOH caitlin my gf made a boyo emote and if you guys want i can give the file so it can be added as a custom emote

[livid cargo]

no, you can set the autoresponse for that trigger specifically @radiant tangle

[plush dagger]

thats really cool

[narrow slate]

So only 3pm EST and 5pm EST is called .. anyone else

[marsh nest]

any one know that if im playing the game when the update comes out i will get osme kind of notification?

[narrow slate]

it's closest to rules

[void vigil]

not in-game

but theres always an @ everyone here when the patch drops

[velvet lion]

my guess is the time for patch to drop will be when patch drops PST, Marth 12th

[narrow slate]

Yeah need to pick a time not the whole day 😃

it's a hours based pool

[brisk trail]

probably

[narrow slate]

none of that mins stuff ether

[brisk trail]

deffinetly here when im back at 4 in the morning ^^

[radiant tangle]

I'm gonna guess around 3 hours from now

[narrow slate]

so 5 EST

Same as IRON

[radiant tangle]

Ye

[velvet lion]

Patch will be ready when I play it

[fiery pebble]

Ill throw a curveball and say that the patch dropped 5 hours ago

We just havent caught up yet

[signal spoke]

a bold take!

[brisk trail]

now the real question is

[narrow slate]

Hmm sure I'll put that as lowest possible time though a little unfair

[brisk trail]

Did they ever say the Year for the patch

maybe its 2020 march 12

[livid cargo]

patch only unlocks once u get enough hearts with dusa

[crystal mural]

Patch already dropped, but it broke and Dusa had to sweep up the pieces :(

[narrow slate]

"oh dear sweep sweep sweep"

[marsh nest]

i just noticed that dusa has no finger for us to put a ring on

[brisk trail]

she has a snek

[dawn bramble]

you put it on one of the snakes

[livid cargo]

nosering, duh.

[brisk trail]

we can put it on one of her sneks

eye ring!

[marsh nest]

but then it cant eat

[brisk trail]

it'dead

[dawn bramble]

its a necklace

[brisk trail]

dead things dont eat?

[dawn bramble]

for the snake

ring for dusa

[livid cargo]

she wears it like a tiny hat

[marsh nest]

dusas not dead

[dawn bramble]

crown.....

[marsh nest]

im pretty sure shes like zarius and hades where shes just some hired help

but ok

we can have a marrige crown

[little inlet]

heyo

[dawn bramble]

queen and kings of the underworld

hellooo!

[warm schooner]

There should be a hades-ship chat lol

[dawn bramble]

omg

[brisk trail]

Dusa is literally the decapitated head of the medusa

wich ended up in hell

[narrow slate]

Hades shipping hmm.. Meg + Anyone

[little inlet]

any idea on when the patch drops?

[brisk trail]

@narrow slate ||they where a thing||

[dawn bramble]

today

[dire jewel]

Real Soon Now.

[dawn bramble]

so close....

[fiery pebble]

Meg > Dusa

[dawn bramble]

^^^^

[warm schooner]

Calling it drops in 30 mins

[little inlet]

i neeed to see the new peeps

[dawn bramble]

plz no im at school

[narrow slate]

meg > Achilles > Dusa

[little inlet]

just don't be at school forehead

[brisk trail]

Nyx>meg>dusa

[dawn bramble]

nyx is......mother

wha

[narrow slate]

oh

[brisk trail]

lol XD

[warm schooner]

Skelly>nyx>dusa

[little inlet]

wat

[brisk trail]

nyx is his mother indeed

[marsh nest]

does any one know what triggers the flashback event in his room?

[brisk trail]

it's greece

it happend there

[dawn bramble]

true

[radiant tangle]

I think it's after a few runs

[brisk trail]

the bed?

[dawn bramble]

Yeah

[little inlet]

but it still kind gross

[brisk trail]

if im not mistaken

[dawn bramble]

Zag passes out and has a fever dream

[brisk trail]

^

[narrow slate]

damn I wanna talk about that game with the three love interests and you kill one here but public channel cause that would be funny as hell.

AH well

[dawn bramble]

I mean, off topic?

[narrow slate]

maybe pretty sure the bot would get me

[dawn bramble]

o h

[radiant tangle]

Doki doki?