#h1-discussion
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Enjoying it so far!
I was expecting more to be fair...
I mean, it was only a month. You can't code in THAT much in a month.
I don't mean that. The heat thingie, I was expecting more of it.
Like I don't mind making it harder for myself but... There is no reward for it.
Just bragging rights?
I mean, it's just a difficulty modifier. But there should be a reward for taking risks and playing well in general
lots of people enjoy a challenge just for a challenge's sake!
hence devil deals and boss rush in isaac's work so well.
i'm sure it's a system that will continue to evolve as well
also the challenges in isaac are unique and exciting, and they're connected to a checklist
so you're incentivised to complete them
if not alone for the completion rating on your savefile
I like feeling rewarded for making It harder.
I'd like it if there were a few things connected to using heat. like witty dialog or a cosmetics shop. but I think the heat we have now is just a bit of a placeholder
for people who want to play the bejesus out of hades until the next update
so they don't have to suffer through identical runs for eternity c:
after a certain point you've seen most silly builds.
I mean I don't mind the chaos, at least now I feel like there is a reason entering the chaos room.
I'd love to see some kind of synergies between gods in the future, sure it's a lot of work but if they add like one or two per update that'd be fine by me.
Also have a legendary perk always existed?
yes, don't discuss them here though, they're considered spoilers owo
or in gameplay, if you wanna talk about the nitty gritty
I love the art for Artemis though
lol yeah this update is for people like Curl who have cleared the game like 300 times now
10/10 
artemis is so cute!!!
hey no artworks spoilers in this channel :(
it hasn’t even been 24 hours yet
ty lol

I don’t know how to remove reacts from mobile
i just woke up from sleep with the idea of "what if superhot but it was all hades characters"
ok im going back to sleep now
goodnight
I also enjoyed the new dialogue for some of the characters.
Along with the other usual context menu stuff like viewing reactions, deleting, etc
Artemis included.
lol goodnight
But yea I did a few runs last night when it came out, completed 4/5 runs so it was great.
Can someone check ingame if the codex entries for the new asphodel enemies are actually bugged
I forgot to file a bug report yesterday
Question i want to ask supergiant when the ask channel opens up: What is Dusa' relation to the gorgons/megagorgons in asphodel? And if she got mad at people or Zag for like breaking a vase or something can she do all their tricks and more?
some of that is answered in the game
Which bit?
first
Fair enough, forgive my current ignorence, not many videos of the update yet
the skit about dusa's origin was in the first version, already
fiiinally. i put the game down for about a week after having so much trouble with meg, picked it up tonight and beat her on my first run (and i haven't updated yet, idk if she gets easier with the update but i was determined to beat her first)
she does have a bit less HP in the update
hi, why cant I post in feedback?
read the pins in feeback
Umm
Please use spoiler chat to talk about bosses.
no problem!
anyone got a before vs. after image of Daddy Zagreus' model?
there’s a comparison in the supergiant blast, if someone has access to that (i’m on mobile, email is a hassle)
oh thats like the email feed right?
i thought i had signed up for that but i dont remember seeing an email for the update
wait nvm i did get that email
In the patch notes some lines are preceded with
instead of a plus sign. What does that mean?
Inspired by community feedback
ahh, cool
Was Daedalus trinket suggested?
Like millions times already, yeah
But they’ll need to do Daedalus an actual character than
Daedalus nail to go with the hammer
or some burned wings from his son, hehehehe ;D
Heyo, is hades a perma death style roguelike or do you just die to the start of the stage for example
You do have to completely start over from the beginning
*from the beginning of the run
BUT you gain increased power through Keepsakes and through spending resources that you gather
One message removed from a suspended account.
ah gotcha
so startover but with power increase
One message removed from a suspended account.
Zag: awesome a blood gate! (backflips into the void)
Jumping in a blood gate but it makes the sound in super mario 64 when you enter a world
"Let'se go!" 
I approve
@vestal lodge I just submitted a bug report but I thought maybe I should also provide a video. Report is about how the game launched a bug reporter without me pressing F10, when I closed it this happened (maybe the game considered itself crashed, hence the bug reporter was invoked)
https://streamable.com/rwrdq
hmm was hoping a third world 😦
shouldnt have bought this game in early access, I enjoy it too much to wait for conternt :p
content*
@radiant halo They didn't mention this up there, so: Hades has a story that progresses outside each individual run. When you die, you go back to your starting point, but you don't restart the game; in fact, the story progresses as you die and are sent back to your starting point over and over!
figured as much. As much as I love roguelikes, I do like a good mix where you progress with deaths
Isn't it like a basic thing in any roguelike?
nope. Perma death is a "traditional" rogue like. So story only progresses as far as you do
But the game itself changes anyways
New items unlocked, new characters met and so on
in super hard roguelikes, you don't keep or progress anything at all, when you die
Take a look at Rogue Legacy, or Gungeon
Hades is a rogue-lite too, though.
That is what it sounds like (haven't played yet...maybe at lunch)
that's why I was asking if it was perma death or not 😃
Oh, I see. What are traditional roguelikes than?
Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup or Nethack are free roguelikes you can try.
Each run is randomized, but you start with exactly the same possibilities. There are no unlocks of any kind.
Sounds not that engaging, but I'll try it out eventually, thanks
Depends on if you're going for the "I beat this bloody stupid hard game" or "I want to get through it so I can say I played it"
Delver is a decent roguelike, same with Rogue Islands
More like second case tbh 😅
yeah that's what a lot of people are like and that's fine 😃 I personally like a good rogue-lite. Roguelikes are hard to keep playing over and over again because of the permadeath
ziggurat is a decent "FPS" roguelike...it's like on the border of like/lite
Only roguelike I still play a lot is Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. And that's mostly because I play it on my phone when I'm bored and away from my computer.
never heard of it myself. seems there's DCSS online and just reg DC:SS (ASCII)on android, which one is the good one 😛
I use (ASCII).
Never tried online though, so I don't know if it's easier to use or if the only change if adding a tileset.
I don't understand the contract next to the mirror, why should we use it ? Just for challenge ? Or are there any rewards ?
just to make your life harder, currently!
hm ok, thanks for the answer
Gotta flex
@latent sluice got a feedback about it, it looks weird atm, imo
Nice, well just played for an hour and gotta say I'm digging it a lot
That's because it's already pretty damn good
Hi! I just joined so please let me know if I inadvertently break any rules. ❤️
I just wanted to gush about Hades for a bit haha! Absolutely obsessed with it already!
Yeah it is. I wouldn't expect anything less from Supergiant
Feel free to gush!
gush the blood of your enemies
Gushing about Dusa is highly encouraged
Had to change out of my holiday icon, what am I DOING.
But yeah oh my god—so in love with the play style and unique take on rogue lite
Dusa is adorable!!

Her voice actress is amazing!
Excellent you’ll fit right in
Also my current goal is to get Charon to love me lol
Ooooh
Yes that is amazing
Love the chain lightning
So fun
I actually really like it on dash
It’s strong but I don’t like it as much 😛 Spam clicking is more fun for me
Spam clicking is pure joy 😂
I also love the voice actor for Hypnos
He reminds me a bit of the one angel from the game Catherine in the confessional
I can’t remember his name
I know it’s a little basic but the sword is my favorite weapon
Bow drives me crazy
It’s not fast enough for melee
That’s just me though haha
same
i mean, i usually play kinda hardcore
full dash +sword is a fast clean
bow is kinda slow for me
Game save is stored on our pcs right? Does anyone know name of the file?
i guess is on documents or in game installation
Thanks. I didn't think about documents at all. I'm a smart man
documents, saved games, hades, profile1.sav or whichever profile it is you’re after
no
new levels?
so wait, whats the pact of punishment
and?
nothing
like, whats the reward
right now the pact of punishment is solely for your own personal desire
it'll probably do other things later
Lots of people are running the game into the ground right now bc it's...well, it's fun lol
So this is to give those folks something to do
its amazing
Yeah it’s real good
Ive been doing pacts of punishment
Yeah, it's mostly for people who already have 300 runs and want MOAR
No, check the patch notes
Its the most fun ive had in a while
I think there’s a new boss?
I haven’t been able to play much so I’m unsure
Quit an adreniline rush
Hahaha brutal
The important question is: do Numbskulls one-shot you on the highest levels of the pact punishment things?
"Enemies deal a gajillion per cent more damage"
ARGRARJGHH
😂
Thats what makes it fun
I'd love a pact perk that gives you less starting HP and less HP per centaur heart. Like, start with 40 HP and gain 20 per heart, 30 HP and gain 15 per heart, and the final level is start with 2 HP and gain 1 per heart.
Theres a less health from centaur heart
Like in terms of how much you heal off it
I dont have enough heat to max things out
So ive stuck with makign the enemies did more damage
More enemies
And more health
Idk
Losing choice instead just making things directly more difficult isnt a thing i can get behind really
Still gonna be doing those runs

it pushes you out of your comfort zone in a different way
you might end up finding boons you like
Ive experimented enough
and hadn't used before
you might find that artemis is actually still a decent choice
i actually recently had a run where i took her attack boon
because I had a thiccccc 63% Attack increase from a Chaos boon
No, it's affected
least, i think it is
Crits are multiplying
old crit dash didnt boost attack boons
ah well Chaos boons are different anyway I think
yeah but it stacked additively. we tested that. in reality a "crit" was just +100% dmg. it added up with say athena +60% and you ended up with +160% dmg
it didn't multiply the athena +60%
should behave similarly still
If it's 3x instead of +200% it'd be too OP even with a low chance haha
I kinda hope it isn't 3x
idk, gotta test
on a power shot, I was dealing about 130 or so
crits were around 400
the math adds up as a straight 3x
Damn that's busted
yeah, having a constant 30% crit chance was niiiiice
oh crit chance on triple shots works independantly?
interesting. that's good
how's new tripe shot btw, haven't had the chance to use it yet
it's different
O to be wider?
Need to be up in the face of the enemy to hit them with all 3 now
I see, it still felt powerful to me
i should try making a shield charge build one of these days
With the hammer boon that makes it faster
I asked this yesterday, I'll ask you guys as well. how do you feel with giant gorgon?
we should probably move over to gameplay btw
meet you there
so, unimportant question. are you trying to say that chaos is non-binary or they're just so great they (or anybody) have to talk about themselves plural?
they’re nonbinary.
id say nonbinary!
nyx called them specifically "my mother and my father" so I'd say nonbinary
Guys, did the new update wipe the saves? If not, does Hades not support cloud saves? I recently formatted my PC and now my save slot is gone ): ): ):
oh, i haven’t gotten that talk yet
the new update didnt wipe saves, but epic games does not support cloud saves
what if I am on an airplane and I save my game while flying through a cloud
is that a cloud save?
sorry 😔 the ceo of epic will appear to stop you 😔
i mean, i think it's both cos gender is inappropriate for something that great that everything emerged from it
Always backup your savefiles when formatting. Don't ever assume cloud save works.
Even on Steam, on games WITH cloud save, it's wonky at best.
mr John Epic slaps your plane from the sky
xd
i mean. there doesn’t need to be a Reason for a nonbinary character to be nonbinary.
@alpine stratus Well then, where exactly is the save folder located? At C/user/documents, games etc. or where the game is installed?
^
yeah i believe so
Thanks for the answers. Now I feel super bad knowing I have to start ALL OVER. I mean, might be nice to enjoy it all with the new touches, but damn I don't want to grind to beat Hydra 2 more times /:
@hexed smelt yeah but in that case there is. it sounds cool. In Russian (and probably in any other language) plural pronouns tell about greatness of a person. Like Nikolai the Second talked about himself in plural.
@brisk trail Game should be easier for you now. Should take you fewer tries than the first time to win.
when people (or primordial entities i suppose) use they/them it isn’t as a plural, though
Well, sometimes it is.
they are reffered to as a gentlebeing!
my bad english maybe
Don't think it's the case for Chaos though.
Yeah gentelbeing actually settles it pretty well. Still very cool
One of my favorite characters with Dusa and Charon
@gleaming crane Could be interesting to try, but I really don't want to grind for a)darkness b)keys c)ambrosia bottles in that descending order based on how frustrating it is to me 😄
poseidon route
poseidon with black shawl is lit
What is a Posiedon route?
you heal so much
get the resource buff from pos
gives me flashbacks about VN past
you date poseidon of course
also use the nyx keepsake to heal when you get darkness
bada bing bada you've healed for infinite amounts
Poseidon has a boon that gives you more health, darkness and money rewards. With a few poms of power, you can triple the rewards. It's amazing.
We've seen Artemis. How do you think, will we see Nyx?
no idea
to be honest, I'm kind of attached to her placeholder look
mostly because she's the first character you meet that has a placeholder sprite
I just thought this was her final art. simple and clean. and I'm kinda used to it
how do you imagine she'll look?
well, long black hair, black as night. Maybe even with stars on them
hmm. I'd like her to be discreet. she's important and respected, but not as magnanimus as the olympians or hades
I thoght the same way about Atremis and here we are

@gleaming crane Thanks for the explanation.
Oh man just got such a fun bug where I was kneeling and gliding across the floor
On an unrelated note, is there a hidden option to enable the sound when the game is put to background? It's nice that the game pauses itself while alt-tab, but losing the sound annoys me sometimes.
It was amazing
no idea unbeknownst. with the spear randus?
you can do pirouettes while charging your spin
I hope they don’t mind me sending in bug reports about really minor things, but the bubble hitboxes bother me
literally unplayable
Since you can actually pop all the bubbles
But their hitboxes are TERRIBLE
But I feel kind of bad submitting bug reports for such trivial things
feedback is good
yeah, don't be anxious or something about feedback. it's early access, the best thing you can do is give a feedback
also sysyphus isn't revealed. I start to see patern here
Man i kinda feel bad for Artemis she really got the short end of the stick this patch
Nah, I prefer the new setup
Crit isn’t supposed to be a guaranteed thing, and now when crits happen they’re so much more exciting
Because the damage is crazy
artemis has the most op cast buffs of all gods
it's true but it feels rough that her power budget was focused so hard into that
Artemis' problem is that her crits are all bad
Pressure Points is the only one thats half-decent
And Id still rather take Urge to Kill
We reached 1000 members on the subreddit 😄
Has Nyx been revealed, or is that supposed to be the base design?
Likely placeholder
gotcha
that's what I was thinking
Maybe some texturing on the shroud, but to be fair a night incarnation should look like that
gloomy, doesn't show too much at all
cool
it's defo placeholder art
The robed art is all placeholder stuff
The plot twist is that The Placeholder is going to be an important character
owen, that might be a bit much
they hold the Place
As if
Im at 560% now
No wait, 580%
600% is max apparently
Ok, maybe Im just unlucky, but is it possible that Athena always gives you a dash, cast and special boon at the start?
Its the fourth time in a row it happened
Oh man this chaos boon is hilarious
"For the next 4 encounters, you take 32% more damage"
Im already getting oneshot by everything
Double edge is insanely good, probably the best Daedalus hammer upgrade for sword now.
40% crit and 2 hits on the dash attack, combined with Deadly Strike is at minimum 80% crit chance on 2 instant strikes.
crits do so much damage now you basically 1 or 2 shot anything with really good range.. Old hunter's dash shield dashing wishes it was this good.
It was better, actually
Even the old version of double edge was better, and it was awful
it used to always deal crit, but Crit is more effective now. much more effective
Is there any reward for doing the Toil/heat stuff beside getting a harder run?
and 40% chance to crit is a lot in the new crit economy.
So far the update has made the already amazing game feel even better
Dose Pact of punishment do anything besides just make the game harder?
Adding more Enemies is fun nothing else on there is fun.
Can anyone tell me how to get to the Hidden enemy so I have my Codex complete.
Oh nvm it was just the min gorgon
That’s disappointing
Managed to clear hydra on fresh save on first run! :)
https://prnt.sc/m8367y
Nice!
I DID IT!!!, AT LAST!!, I DID IT!! - On my 119th run, I finally beat the Hydra!~
congrats!!
Not quite as impressive as @warped hamlet 's achievement but whatever!, I'm happy XD
hah :d grats @sick tree
Thank you~ thank you~ takes a bow
:3
I love the 4th wall breaking snide conversation Zag and Hades have when you get back~
Oh chaos boons have a chance to give something else when they trigger, Thematic I suppose.
Well I wanted the +damage, but its switched to increased darkness gain
does anyone know what that little perfect landing text is? i've seen it afew times when i start a run and i don't know what it's doing or how im doing it
If you press the dash button at the right time
just mash any input
it does nothing, it's jsut fun
Basically, yeah
hmm cool
Really hope well get some changes to the pact system so that there are more fun options
This has probably been mentioned a bunch but I wouldn't mind being able to dash cancel the sword nova like you can the spear spin
anyone else think the game can be an absolute clusterheck sometimes?
like when you get a critical mass of enemies that just make it impossible to see whos where and whats what?
especially in the second part
is Boiling blood bugged?
happens when you get the survive for a minute rooms in asphodel for me
ez pz
yeah and it gets even worse with the smoke clouds
literally designed to make the problem even worse
unlike all the other traps it doesnt seem to give you any sort of opportunity for you to use it against the enemies
it just makes your vision even more messed up
intentionally so
Slightly silly random question: Does Zagreus literally have one red eye and one green eye or is that just part of the art style?
When I first noticed it in his conversation image....thingy, I assumed the idea was that his eyes were both green but appeared red when they're in shadow
and that the only reason they didn't match was because he's posed in such a way that one eye is hidden from direct light
I've seen that exact thing done elsewhere to show duality in a character or to subtly (not very subtly) indicate they have malicious intent
maybe they just couldnt decide whether he should have red or green eyes and gave him both? 
So I'm not 100% sure either way since they're aren't many pictures of him straight on that would make it clear
Hi is Hades Feedback closed at the moment
It says I don't have permission to post there
@rich solar you might need the Hades role
Oh okay do you mind telling me how that's done?
Would make sense to put the info on hades info wouldn't it too?
I think I got it Thanks @brisk trail @livid cargo
no problem!
Just a note it seems like there is two roles relevant to Hades, Hades and Early Access, it's the latter that seems to open access to providing Hades Feedback
good point tbh
Since I "finished" the game earlier today, I've just been running around seeing what kinds of mischief I can get into,
Thus, I have a silly little challenge for anyone who feels like goofing around for a few minutes:
I only recently noticed that the Stygian blade's special leaves a small mark on the floor directly in front of you every time you use it
and none of those marks appear to go away until you leave the room,
Which means: you can use it to write stuff!~
Why not leave a message for Hades or whoever is responsible for cleaning this stuff up when you've passed by and finished vandalising the architecture?
XD
yeah we just dont want everyone rushing into feedback right away
we wanna make sure they read the pin first and know how to post
so we use a more hidden role
that's also a fair point
people often forget to seperate their feedback into multiple messages if they have multiple different things to say
which doesnt really work for obvious reasons
omg. i would LOVE to see ppl write messages like that
dark souls would sue 
someone pls write. "[BEEP] you dad" on the floor jfngngnv
language
hmmm adding messages in different spots to the game....I would totally add a message in Asphodel "Go to the corner of this map! Secret room!"
not even the underworld is safe from proxies wrath
patch came out as i launched the game
ugh
im not at my PC
i cant make a reddit or wiki post
this is struggling
I am unsure if people have reported about the new enemy that goes up in the air, acting weird at times
As in it would just randomly wander out to the lava for no reason.
Wow this patch has the gayest quote in forever
SO TGE PATCH QUOTE HUH
lovin it
YEAH I WAS BOUT TO SAY
Kimo, is the wiki the gamepedia one?
today my mom said :
what do you guys think about the new miniboss?
"patroklos? You mean the gay sock following Achilles like a duck" (In german its funnier I sweat)
I cant play ;_; must study
Im so jelly of ylal
gl w studying!
@brisk trail i could write it up, would it be Patch 007?
thanks for that sad patch quote of the day, supergiant, didnt need to cry
its good readin
well
I listened to an audiobook
So it was good...listening
If you have audible you can get it with your tokens
its one of the books you can read for free
I know the whole story ;_;
Yeah
I want a ....happy ending
Might be considered off topic lets bounce
artemis boons got stomped
Arty is still good, but yeah, her boons got the hammer pretty hard
If you're playing cast or special, her boons are still as good, really.
And even for attack, with the help of Chaos boons, they're still great. Dealt 510 damage on crits.
I wonder if this patch fixed the other boons that weren't showing up correctly when chaos boons were equipped.

I guess I was the only one who didn't rely on Artemis boon.
I don't mind the point pressure one but the rest were ehhh
Question: Do the pact of punishments have any rewards to them? Or just for fun
@brisk trail I think I didn't mess it up
link?
no problem
@dark owl Just for fun.
@brisk trail I wouldn't say I rely on it, but they were always a lot of fun to play. They were also the most insane builds in terms of damage per attack (especially for cast)
@gleaming crane Thanks 😄
hey who do i have to 🔪 for that patch quote
i get home from a lovely evening out and see this with my own eyes
Who’s cutting 
Hades apparently
now take this healing item that only restores 1 hp, go, fetch
Just imagine Achilles and Patroclus having a tearful reunion, and Zag decides to go for payback by putting cut onions under Hades' face
Like in that one spongebob episode
So I just gave dusa an ambrosia and there was no dialogue whatsoever?
Soo did the chaos update reset save progress or is it something else?
chaos update does not reset your save progress
Alright cool, thanks.
Saves aren’t kept on the cloud, so if you’ve changed computers or something those won’t carry over automatically
Reinstalled windows, but i found the thing to copy over in the info channel, might be worth adding it to the FAQ on the epic page tho
Am I the only one having issue with no-hit rooms?
Depends on what kind you get, really. Had one with brimstones and bloodless, with bow it was easy.
i keep taking one tick of lava damage and failing them so i'm Bitter
ive got a theory
To justify all the extra work dodging lava
yknow how slam-dancers and bloodless appear in tartarus as minibosses
i like to think hades gives an onion as the fail-reward because zag hates onions
what if the giant gorgon head in asphodel becomes a regular enemy in the next zone
At least 3 runs ended because I couldn't get what I wanted... All because I can not play hitless
Yeah, I think having regular rewards if you finish the room while getting hit and either increased rewards for darkness and money or an additional small money or darkness reward for all others when you beat it without taking hits would be better.
It's up to you to build your own luck devildragon. That's how rogue-lites work. You don't get what you want? Well, want something else.
Anything's better than onion, to be fair
I want to pet Cerberus
Wish this was also something to enable with the Pact of Punishment
so you pet cerberus? yes what did it cost? everything
And it was worth it
I lost a no hit room by dashing through a gorgon shot
it did 0 damage, didn't stun
but counter as getting hit 😄
Finally beat the Hydra on 101st run... I'm really glad that fight was rebalanced in the Chaos Update because both me and my housemate have been cursing the Hydra for weeks now...
http://prntscr.com/m85nf4 Finally maxed all the mirror
#h1-story-discussion is more for story spoilers.
Wait, is there a new piece of decor?
Just picked up the game, in love with it already, favorite roguelike since Gungeon.
although I gotta say (and I dread to say this and invoke a nerf) the Spear might be a smidge OP. The range and attack rate make it easy to stunlock un-armored enemies into oblivion, although it did me little good against the first legit boss.
Good thing there are plenty of armoured enemies, then.
Also, all weapons have good points. You'll find plenty of people to tell you bow is the best weapon. Some will even tell you sword is the best weapon. Don't think I saw anybody say shield is the best weapon, but it's still a pretty good one.
shatter shot isn't like a homing cast right?
You mean Aphrodite's Scatter shot? It's pretty much a shotgun.
okay ty
Did the game get uncapped FPS or something? Feels strangely much better than before, but there's a lot of changes that contribute to that
probably some optimization going on under the hood!
Probably connected to that stuttering thing they had before that would micropause the game when you dealt a large hit
@alpine stratus to what you said in feedback, I got that boon for 3 encounters, and the next room after that was sis's room so I thought it was a bug where it went on for 4 encounters 😂
AAAAAAA
the worst timeline, but I got a nice sis surprise so maybe the best?!
Love that dood
Hey y'all, new to the server - is there somewhere to report bugs? (and/or see what bugs have already been reported)
Oh! Perfect! Thanks so much
👌 sure
I can't really say it's best, because I finished the game more times with other weapons, but I DEFINITELY feel the best with the shield. Absolutely love it.
With every hit I feel like I'm punching through concrete 😄
@raven timber do you have the latest patch? it mentions Fixed an issue scrolling the Codex pages with controller
I do. It’s miles better than it was before, but still not great.
On the other hand, I just poked around my controller settings and found out why the d-pad wasn’t doing anything, which effectively solved all my problems except that you have to press the button multiple times to scroll multiple items, which isn’t a big deal.
@fathom cloud when you encounter Sisyphus and have health selected, there’s a bubble that pops up that tells you how much you have.
that last wave is brutal
burnt through three death defiances and a full healthbar right on that wave
(i was up to 165 for health at that point)
spoilers! 
I JUST BEAT THE HYDRA FOR THE FIRST TIME!!! took me forever
congrats!
im so happy because i wanted to be able to do the stuff that is unlocked after you beat hydra and now i finally have access
You guys think Hades'll be good for speed running?
Once people find optimal strats
Cuz I've been trying and it's been decent
in my opinion its a definite possibility
Not recording times yet but my fastest run was ~30 mins
I ran Spear and Artemis trinket
Crit dash
Spam hold attack
Upgrade charge time on hold attack
One shot most enemies
I know there were some pre-patch runs that were sub-10
30 attempts... 5555 kills. Nice
Found a room in which I can dash outside of the stage, lol
@foggy zephyr Hey if you could provide a screenshot we'd appreciate it...! We'd like to fix stuff like that as soon as we can.
Hm, what is required to be able to post in #hades-feedback ?
read the pinned post
getting a chance to really dig into the update, and I must say, I am loving Chaos. Their boons are exactly the kind of interesting/dynamic decisions I like to see
So what happens if you lose all your save data, and cannot get it back? Because it just happened to me.
haven't been able to play since the update just yet, so i'm still very confused as to what the heck is "Heat"
you use it to make the game harder if for some reason you want more challenge out of the game
it's a new resource you can get during runs, like darkness and keys
I finished the game with +90% enemies with 22 minutes. While i did the same in 23 minutes without any heat mods xD
LOL awesome
Hades is Great, I've played a few sessions, I'm up to almost 50 runs?
I've not been looking at any info outside the game for hte first 50 runs, but now I'm really curious what resources people like?
Heat is also a neat little red skull icon on your safe file to show how many times you got warm!
@strange cradle Right now the game suffer a lot of resources abundance. However. I used to like Darkness.
I'm conflicted on the description of the Trojan Arms decoration. Its description reads: "A display of broken arms from a historic siege." - I do think it should be: "A display of broken arms from AN historic siege." - I don't know why I think it should be like that, but it runs better in my opinion. In this case I actually am not sure of the grammatical spectrum.
"an" before a vovel sound. "his..." is a consonant sound, so "a" is correct
it would be "from an epic siege" though, because "e" is a vovel sound
(i write "vovel sound" instead of just "vovel" because the actual pronounciation is what matters, not the letter itself. for example "an hour")
(it’s spelled “vowel” just fyi ;p)
in some places, for some reason “historic” is pronounced without the H
so it would be “an historic” in that case
but “a historic” is ‘more’ correct
I still haven't had the time to play the new update but I jsut saw the blast email and the new Artemis art is amazingggg!! 💖 💚 ❣
yessssss i love her
the birds on her bow are Friends
they’re so tiny ;3;
I don't like the shield so I don't rly use it but spear runs always end up underwhelming so I just play bow/sword
@brisk trail Once you realize you can charge up the spear and then dash, it makes using the spear a lot more effective and fun. It has decent damage and good range. Solid weapon.
Yea I'm aware of that I use it too
But think of it this way why bother playing the spear when you can go sword + athena "your special is stronger and can reflect" + nova aoe upgrade from daedalus and just T-pose aoe all the mobs down + reflect in all directions for 200+ dmg, I had a run that I was doing 650 non crit with it
I'd be ok with the spear if the charge was faster, like how it is if you get the daedalus upgrade but from the start
Like with the bow you have the potential of doing 1k+ crits, with the sword you can clear rooms in 20 seconds with the right nova combo, what does the spear have going for it?
Unless I'm missing something
please don’t post spoilers in this channel! 🙏
Oh, my bad, I just wanted to post the victory screen to show my stats with the weapons, noted
Gameplay is a good place for that!
Hey guys, I’m kinda new to the discord but super hyped about Hades. I’m definitely getting it now, but for interest’s sake in the future, have the devs announced any plans to increase the price of the game on full release?
They have not, they have mentioned porting it to other platforms at some point after it is no longer in early access... but didnt specifiy which ones...
I want it on the go though, sooo... Switch it up!
Chaos is so good 👌
they ARE
@olive jungle btw if you want to be more correct since i'm Greek, it's χάος :D
i know, just at the time i changed it i was in a hurry and i haven't fixed it lol
and i'm on mobile now :')
Been too busy playing the update to bother! i'll get it when i get home
Look here you... Most english speakers can't even use the correctly, do you think we are gonna do well with difficult foreign letters and sounds?
Though... if one of his boons turned everything into greek to cause chaos... that would be a neat effect to see once in a while
Hello guys!
I've never received the Codex from Achilles.
Is it a known bug? Maybe there is a known fix for it that you are aware of?
is there a way to see how much money is saved in coin purse xd
@tardy cedar it is a known bug but it should have been fixed a while back; keep talking to him and you should get it!
talk to Achilles whenever you can, he should give it to you eventually
@olive jungle thanks! I'll try that after I finish this run and report back.
i wouldn't call tuesday a while back but okay ven ;P
pfft
i thought it had been addressed before that?
it's a whopping two days 
greg said something about it well before this latest patch...
i think i'm getting that mixed up
maybe he said they have a fix prepared for next patch
Chaos is messing with you, ven 
nah, it's been a known issue for a while now but it only cropped up in a patch in the chaos update
i would not complain about chaos messing with me
ANYWAYS it's been patched regardless so
wooo!
ven... 
hello. i noticed Hades had a price drop from $19.99 to $9.99. is this temporary?
oh, i see
i was hoping they would
i now have no reason to not buy this game!
tho id gladly buy it again for full price if/when it fully releases on switch
Yeah, game for sure worth it's price.
I need to check regional pricing though.
A friend of mine was planning to buy it too.
i'm posting this here as well https://imgur.com/OZfuQAA
but mooooooom
I see
pastes this on top of the phone basket in a school
It's so weird that I somehow already got accustomed to the placeholder artwork for Artemis and the real one now makes me confused.
The same way as seeing a picture of someone that you've only known by voice
athena did her hair for her
she does have the best art imo
it's a wig
Are there any Hades gifs knocking about?
Found a couple
cvfhb artemis snatched Athena’s wig
i mean have you seen athena and artemis together at the same time?
yes
Here's my counter-argument: 
Do y’all know if crit stacks additively? Like if I have hunter dash with 20% crit and regular attack boon with 25% crit, after I dash does my next attack have 45% crit?
guess i shouldnt have killed hydra so early . now i get heat instead of bottles and keys
@dark glade I don't have stats to back me up but it strongly feels like it does stack the way you said it
is it just me or sword special kind of sucks?
i think bow sucks more tbh
Sword special is weak in the way that you're stunned for 9 years, so if you dont hit what you intended to hit, then theres a good chance you get hit
Exactly, and skulls and bombs just love crashing in the middle just after you cast the special
it's not bad, try it with supernova and athena deflect
but it's not good if you want to do fast runs because it's so slow and in generell the long recovery time can feel kinda clunky
but it's not bad and definetly capable of completing runs
I'll have to try it out, currently sticking with 400% attack
with good damage boon and super nova I got to the point where I could just let enemies come to me and one shot them over and over and over until the room was clear
before latest patch though
the knockback helps a lot
Even tho, i think that fast swipe+athena deflect might be really nice
yes, silvercopper, latest patch nerfed it hard
from 200% -> 130%
still decent though
and you can use arthemis crit dash on it now
which is kinda crazy good for dps boost
oh, so there is no cloud safe? decided to play on my laptop and safe is emptyyy T.T
you can copy your save if you have access to your previous pc
Wonder if anyone ran into this glitch
https://imgur.com/a/NZlKoG8
And yes I reported it
what are the new stomper creatures in asphodel? I wanna add a bit of feedback but I'm not sure their proper names
Are those the Megagorgons?
uhhh I ran into gorgon heads im not sure
Well, yeah, I ran into those two
skullcrushers
ty!
i only just noticed that poseidon's little crown is shaped like seahorses :'D
i thought it was just coral or something
Net Tartarus maps look nice.
I can't help but think cerberus is gonna be one of the final bosses, and fighting that puppy will break my heart.
Hi everyone just found out a bug where should i post the screen
if youre still in game, press f10 while playing and it will open up a window
I refuse to fight pupper
I wouldn't make sense if we didn't fight Cerberus. He's the iconic Hades Guardian
Want to ride on Cerberus’s back into glorious battle
And if im not , i managed to """fix""" by killing the monster who was stucked in the wall
bribe cerberus w treats and when he's distracted run past the door
I know what is past the door, I'm gonna tell you but I don't have much time, I am being followed and I think they might have caug
😔 🙏 goodbye brave soul
well he is standing like 10 meters away from him anyway
Hush I want to bring Orpheus with me just let me have this ;_;
any escape plan that does not involve bouldy is not acceptable
gorgons are just feral dusas
Truth
Okay so, I know Meg got her health massively reduced in the Chaos update and that's why she's suddenly a lot easier to beat but I choose to believe that after Zag killed her a bunch of times and brought her lots of ambrosia, she just started giving up on fights way sooner,
It's not like she likes him or anything!,
baka!!
I didn't like how they nerfed her health, but that explanation makes it 1000X better!
I like that they nerfed her health a little bit, but they gave her more invulnerability time.
I'm really digging the chaos trade offs. They're super fun. I also like that Aphrodite got nerfed. Dash builds with weakness exploit and curse we're pretty disgusting for clear speed/damage output.
I don't think they gave her more invulnerability time, they just made it so we could tell when she's invulnerable easier. Which is a change that I am 100% behind.
I think Meg needs a buff to her in game insults towards Zag... I don’t mind taking a extra long time to beat her if I get to hear her talk. Nerfing her wouldn’t be the way I would go... Go home Zag!
I think she's at the point where she really is just saying that so Hades will get off her back
Ohhh i killed final boss first time
congrats
How can i use heat?
you use it to make the game harder
AAa, thanks
I also just the got final boss for the first time. With Zeus lightning casts!
I think I should re-evaluate my opinion of some of the Artemis Boons. Deadly Strike and Deadly Flourish are a bit underwhelming (particularly Flourish), but her supplemental Boons like Pressure Points and Clean Kill are VERY strong now. Perhaps this trade-off is intentional?
i think so
Eating gyros for dinner
zag wannabe spotted
So getting 50 health back
If I'm reading the dynamic right it seems like Zag and Meg have some romantic history, right? Is the (what would have been before Zag learned about his birth mother) implied incest something thats just gonna be glossed over as part and parcel of the Greek myth theme?
It seems like it will be glossed over as much as Sisphyus's real crime will be
That he served the gods his own family members? Yeah lol
Yeah...
squints suspiciously at the food he gives us
He did do the second thing
It would actually be more interesting if Zag learns about that later
Trying to cheat death
But the first one is what got him into Tartarus in the first place.
The other myth is that he literally chained up death for a while
Greek myth isn't known for being particularly consistent
Does anyone else miss the timer delay in the survive rooms?
No
Isn't the guy who served his own family members called Tantalus?
That's the one
Forgot about him
Tantalus is also held in Hades, so it's understandable
Hes the guy that has to suffer being in the river and under a fruit tree for all eternity with both being out of his reach
Tartarus punishments got personal
Tartarus was an ironic hell, so that’s kinda the point
Ever wonder where the whole notion of capturing death even came from? It's not exactly widespread, but it sure seems to show up a lot more than one might exp...
@twilit wind - Huh... maybe?
Incest is indeed very common in Greek mythology but, at least with the primordial entities, you can interoperate their children as just sorta springing forth from the abstract concept they represent, rather than literally being born, in the traditional sense
Nyx, being the physical manifestation of the night, can be considered the parent of anything that came into existence as she and her fellow primordials created the day/night cycle as we know it
Yeah, Incest wasn't a big deal in Greek myths
Killing your guests, yes
Boning a close relative: you're a god, mortal things don't apply
The form we see them in isn't even their "real" form too, just personifications
Avatars
There's a myth where Dionysus's mom goes insane from seeing Zeus in his real form
Or dies w/e
Who gets sown into Zeus's thigh to be born, bc... uh, yes
Yeah...
Because that makes sense
Of course, he is the head god
He does what he wants
The "excuse"?, I just gave only really applies to the primordial Gods since they don't typically have an actual human body, just an avatar of sorts
But the titans and Olympians have no such excuse, they really, definitely are incestuous
But apart from Theseus I don't remember incest biting anyone in the ass
There was that whole Oedipus thing
Incest is like the middle name of the Olympians ngl
flashbacks from Greek literature class
Well, Ares is widely hated, by both mortals and other Gods,
and he's the child of siblings, Zeus and Hera so interoperate that however you like
but he's also extremely attractive, physically so I donno
Except for Aphrodite who spawn from testicle-blood-foam
hey everyone -- this server isn’t for incest-related discussion, please take it elsewhere
Was literally about to point out 75% of this conversation will/should be deleted XD
agreed..! let’s not ever go there
Ok!
lol this got a tad bit out of hand
Hi, I´m seching for the Hades trailer, not for the 2 min. long but for the youtube add 30 sec. long. Is possible to find that one somewhere?
I'm not sure...I don't think I've seen that version either
Is there at least chance to find it on youtube as an add. Meaning that I will went from video with adds to video with adds and just waiting till the rng hits right?
I would assume so? I don't really know though, sorry!
I haven't encountered the ad myself i use adblock, oops
the meg fight feels..... very different when the music doesn't play,,
there's no music in asphodel either 😱
yeah you should probably send a bug report just so they can see what's going on with your file lol
i've gotten runs where music doesn't play in a single room...kam got a run earlier that didn't have any music at all tho
Observation in case anyone wasn't sure: I have a Chaos Boon and a normal Boon that both increase Attack damage and they appear to be stacking multiplicatively.
Do boons normally stack if they’re not power ups? I was under the impression they don’t
Can't believe hypnos would stand there and call me an idiot as if I don't already know smh
it s so endearing.. i love hypnos 😍
I'm not sure what you mean, Lumi?
Oh, are you talking about on the currently playing thing on profiles?
yeah that s the one

Thats the only icon I see... or am I missing something?
I'm under the impression the basic emotes (ex:
) are more of SGg overall
As mentioned above, it's for when you click on someone's profile who is playing Hades
You will see the Hades logo/icon
There are 3 official Hades emotes, though —

Though I guess the Shades are all technically Hades as well
I think it's funny 🙃
Though maybe also a gameplay spoiler?
I guess as long as we don't say when/where it comes in it's fine in this channel...
It is sometimes... like if a chest wants to say 'you're slow'... but the floor is lava... I basically tripped and wound up with a taste of 

tbh i cant be mad at losing the challemges ever bc of how hard the onion makes me laugh
THE SAD LITTLE NOISE....
Someone suggested making it the 'prize' for being absolute pants... I'm like... seems like a cool idea
wait do you mean that the prize for WINNING should be a paor of pants
ONION OR PANTS ZAG WHATS IT GONA BE
I'm pretty sure Zag pants after dashing around all combat anyway 
i made the mistake of accepting a boon from chaos that damaged you for dashing, right before meg
it's really hard to beat meg without dashing
I like the voice lines when you proc a
debuff
Hi guys, I saw in the info that the game requires 10GB free space, but do you know the precise amount? Actually I don't have a stable connection due to moving, and I dunno if I have enough data to download it in case I buy it
just the program files folder says 4.73 gigs on my machine, but there are probably bits and pieces lurking elsewhere
nice thanks!
how's the update tho? I wanted to buy the game at release but I've been busy with the academy
Haven't seen a single gameplay cause I wanna be spoiler free when I buy, but I'm super curious
so far it's really enjoyable! lots of good quality of life updates, some mechanics introduce for people who want to keep playing the game past its current content
"some mechanics introduce for people who want to keep playing the game past its current content" sorry I'm not native english, could you please explain it in some other words? Sorry lol
more ways to replay the game
There are a lot of people who like playing the game, but there isn't a lot of story right now, and you get stuff every time you play through the game
You couldn't do anything with all that stuff before
So SGG added a shop where you can "sell" it for other stuff, plus ways to make the game harder
Hey there. I was wondering what engine Hades is running on?
I believe it's a proprietary engine
The scripts are written in a combo of Lua and XML though
FMOD is used for audio integration
And BINK for animations
Oh really? I thought it was C# based
Because thats what Bastion and Transistor ran on
If im correct
I'm not sure what the engine is made of, but the scripts are in Lua
it could be C# based! i think they've been using the same engine since the beginning
but I also think the Lua scripting started back in Pyre
W/e engine it is in, it runs very smooth compared to many similar games
SGg seem to polish their code and engine to run well, despite having many things going on
There is heavy use of pre-rendered assets as opposed to realtime rendering which is why the performance is quite good and it also looks really pretty.
This has always been the case with SGG's previous titles
So most of the background is just a big picture with 'can' and ;can not' walk areas?
like OoT
Sort of.
Most of UI stuff are bink videos.
Thats what I think at least because TIL that they also use Bink.
That is more or less how it goes, yeah. I think there was some talk from someone on the dev team about this... Maybe it was on twitter?
for a procedurally generated game, hades looks really nice
the backgrounds are pre-rendered but there's always new event rooms or dialogue
the only thing that I would change was the amount of armored enemies in the last patch
so idk if i missed this but
is the Pact of Punishment... solely for making the game harder? like, it doesn't do anything else?
That is correct, for now at least
ok, thanks
Love all super giant games but why does every character talk in such a hushed tone? I love it, it's like ASMR. I'm just wondering if there's a reasoning behind it.
interesting, i only noticed that with Meg’s voice! (which makes her really intimidating imo)
#MegOneLove
my headcanon is that Hades doesnt want them to talk to Zag
He doesn't seem to care.
...true
Daddy don't hurt me.
Does anyone know how effects stack in Hades, does the universal crit chance have a seperate trigger from an ability that already has crit chance, is it additive, does it work together in some other way? Similarly Chaos rooms prevent you from picking a room choice for the next room but does it send you to a new, random, room or the next room you had available (or one of the available ones if there are several)?
I believe crit is additive e.g 20 % crit after dash stack with 20% crit on attack to become 40%
as for the chaos rooms its a bit murky I have found that sometimes it picks a room in accordance with exits in the room you came from but I have also on occasion had it pick something different (even skipping the entire bomber boss encounter on a room that only had that as exit, I never encountered the bomber boss fight on that run)
no spoilers here please ;-;
? people are talking about the bosses all over.. oh well
yeah, we try to keep talk of the final boss out of this channel. 😅 some people wanna go in blind, thats what we have #h1-story-discussion and #h1-builds-and-combat
Question.. in the feedback zone... Whats an "X" mean vs a thumbs down?
it means the feedback is irrelevant, or a duplicate. you can read the pinned post in the feedback channel for more
i need to buy this new update to play it or what? (i opened epic and there was notification that there is some chaos update or something)
You don't have to buy the update, it's free and will install automatically
The game is in early access, so it will be updated constantly as development goes on
thanks for info,
Last night I had a dream that I was Poseidon and I was at some store with my brother Zeus
and just now I got my first Legendary boon and it is Poseidon's
:'3
Given the new art for Artemis replacing the old shrouded character, eventually, will all the shrouded characters get new art?
Yes they will
Sweet
It would seem
