#h1-discussion

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brisk trail
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Hmmm what do you guys think of the update?

olive jungle
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Enjoying it so far!

brisk trail
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I was expecting more to be fair...

errant garden
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I mean, it was only a month. You can't code in THAT much in a month.

brisk trail
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I don't mean that. The heat thingie, I was expecting more of it.

errant garden
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I'm sure that in one of the coming months we'll get the next area

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ah.

brisk trail
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Like I don't mind making it harder for myself but... There is no reward for it.

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Just bragging rights?

errant garden
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I mean, it's just a difficulty modifier. But there should be a reward for taking risks and playing well in general

olive jungle
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lots of people enjoy a challenge just for a challenge's sake!

errant garden
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hence devil deals and boss rush in isaac's work so well.

olive jungle
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i'm sure it's a system that will continue to evolve as well

errant garden
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also the challenges in isaac are unique and exciting, and they're connected to a checklist

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so you're incentivised to complete them

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if not alone for the completion rating on your savefile

brisk trail
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I like feeling rewarded for making It harder.

errant garden
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I'd like it if there were a few things connected to using heat. like witty dialog or a cosmetics shop. but I think the heat we have now is just a bit of a placeholder

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for people who want to play the bejesus out of hades until the next update

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so they don't have to suffer through identical runs for eternity c:

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after a certain point you've seen most silly builds.

brisk trail
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I mean I don't mind the chaos, at least now I feel like there is a reason entering the chaos room.

errant garden
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I'd love to see some kind of synergies between gods in the future, sure it's a lot of work but if they add like one or two per update that'd be fine by me.

brisk trail
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Also have a legendary perk always existed?

errant garden
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yes, don't discuss them here though, they're considered spoilers owo

brisk trail
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Oh.

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My bad.

errant garden
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or in gameplay, if you wanna talk about the nitty gritty

brisk trail
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I love the art for Artemis though

void vigil
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lol yeah this update is for people like Curl who have cleared the game like 300 times now

brisk trail
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10/10 pacha

void vigil
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artemis is so cute!!!

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hey no artworks spoilers in this channel :(

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it hasn’t even been 24 hours yet

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ty lol

prisma wind
void vigil
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I don’t know how to remove reacts from mobile

prisma wind
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It just makes me so happy

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You can long press and it should give the option

wooden quartz
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i just woke up from sleep with the idea of "what if superhot but it was all hades characters"

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ok im going back to sleep now

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goodnight

brisk trail
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I also enjoyed the new dialogue for some of the characters.

prisma wind
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Along with the other usual context menu stuff like viewing reactions, deleting, etc

brisk trail
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Artemis included.

void vigil
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lol goodnight

brisk trail
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But yea I did a few runs last night when it came out, completed 4/5 runs so it was great.

vale kite
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Can someone check ingame if the codex entries for the new asphodel enemies are actually bugged

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I forgot to file a bug report yesterday

dark tusk
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Question i want to ask supergiant when the ask channel opens up: What is Dusa' relation to the gorgons/megagorgons in asphodel? And if she got mad at people or Zag for like breaking a vase or something can she do all their tricks and more?

void vigil
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some of that is answered in the game

dark tusk
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Which bit?

void vigil
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first

dark tusk
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Fair enough, forgive my current ignorence, not many videos of the update yet

errant torrent
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the skit about dusa's origin was in the first version, already

brisk trail
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fiiinally. i put the game down for about a week after having so much trouble with meg, picked it up tonight and beat her on my first run (and i haven't updated yet, idk if she gets easier with the update but i was determined to beat her first)

fickle karma
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she does have a bit less HP in the update

warm laurel
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hi, why cant I post in feedback?

errant garden
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read the pins in feeback

blazing linden
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Umm

errant garden
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Please use spoiler chat to talk about bosses.

blazing linden
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Oh

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My mistake

errant garden
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no problem!

brazen lake
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anyone got a before vs. after image of Daddy Zagreus' model?

hexed smelt
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there’s a comparison in the supergiant blast, if someone has access to that (i’m on mobile, email is a hassle)

brazen lake
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oh thats like the email feed right?

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i thought i had signed up for that but i dont remember seeing an email for the update

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wait nvm i did get that email

acoustic wave
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In the patch notes some lines are preceded with shadesmile instead of a plus sign. What does that mean?

olive jungle
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Inspired by community feedback

acoustic wave
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ahh, cool

drowsy karma
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Was Daedalus trinket suggested?

ripe anchor
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Like millions times already, yeah

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But they’ll need to do Daedalus an actual character than

vale kite
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Daedalus nail to go with the hammer

cold plover
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or some burned wings from his son, hehehehe ;D

gleaming crane
radiant halo
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Heyo, is hades a perma death style roguelike or do you just die to the start of the stage for example

fickle karma
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You do have to completely start over from the beginning

gilded prism
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*from the beginning of the run

fickle karma
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BUT you gain increased power through Keepsakes and through spending resources that you gather

brisk trail
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One message removed from a suspended account.

radiant halo
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ah gotcha

fickle karma
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so startover but with power increase

brisk trail
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One message removed from a suspended account.

vale kite
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Zag: awesome a blood gate! (backflips into the void)

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Jumping in a blood gate but it makes the sound in super mario 64 when you enter a world

fickle karma
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"Let'se go!" shadeohboy

amber garden
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I approve

gilded prism
remote plaza
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hmm was hoping a third world 😦

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shouldnt have bought this game in early access, I enjoy it too much to wait for conternt :p

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content*

olive jungle
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@radiant halo They didn't mention this up there, so: Hades has a story that progresses outside each individual run. When you die, you go back to your starting point, but you don't restart the game; in fact, the story progresses as you die and are sent back to your starting point over and over!

radiant halo
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figured as much. As much as I love roguelikes, I do like a good mix where you progress with deaths

ripe anchor
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Isn't it like a basic thing in any roguelike?

radiant halo
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nope. Perma death is a "traditional" rogue like. So story only progresses as far as you do

ripe anchor
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But the game itself changes anyways

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New items unlocked, new characters met and so on

fickle karma
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in super hard roguelikes, you don't keep or progress anything at all, when you die

ripe anchor
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Take a look at Rogue Legacy, or Gungeon

radiant halo
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yeah, those aren't traditional roguelikes

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more rogue-lite

gleaming crane
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Hades is a rogue-lite too, though.

radiant halo
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That is what it sounds like (haven't played yet...maybe at lunch)

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that's why I was asking if it was perma death or not 😃

ripe anchor
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Oh, I see. What are traditional roguelikes than?

gleaming crane
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Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup or Nethack are free roguelikes you can try.

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Each run is randomized, but you start with exactly the same possibilities. There are no unlocks of any kind.

ripe anchor
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Sounds not that engaging, but I'll try it out eventually, thanks

radiant halo
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Depends on if you're going for the "I beat this bloody stupid hard game" or "I want to get through it so I can say I played it"

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Delver is a decent roguelike, same with Rogue Islands

ripe anchor
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More like second case tbh 😅

radiant halo
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yeah that's what a lot of people are like and that's fine 😃 I personally like a good rogue-lite. Roguelikes are hard to keep playing over and over again because of the permadeath

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ziggurat is a decent "FPS" roguelike...it's like on the border of like/lite

gleaming crane
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Only roguelike I still play a lot is Dungeon Crawl: Stone Soup. And that's mostly because I play it on my phone when I'm bored and away from my computer.

radiant halo
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never heard of it myself. seems there's DCSS online and just reg DC:SS (ASCII)on android, which one is the good one 😛

gleaming crane
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I use (ASCII).

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Never tried online though, so I don't know if it's easier to use or if the only change if adding a tileset.

latent sluice
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I don't understand the contract next to the mirror, why should we use it ? Just for challenge ? Or are there any rewards ?

alpine stratus
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just to make your life harder, currently!

latent sluice
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hm ok, thanks for the answer

humble pollen
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Gotta flex

cloud stirrup
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@latent sluice got a feedback about it, it looks weird atm, imo

radiant halo
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Nice, well just played for an hour and gotta say I'm digging it a lot

bleak sandal
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That's because it's already pretty damn good

stray ember
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Hi! I just joined so please let me know if I inadvertently break any rules. ❤️
I just wanted to gush about Hades for a bit haha! Absolutely obsessed with it already!

radiant halo
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Yeah it is. I wouldn't expect anything less from Supergiant

humble pollen
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Feel free to gush!

errant garden
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gush the blood of your enemies

humble pollen
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Gushing about Dusa is highly encouraged

stray ember
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Had to change out of my holiday icon, what am I DOING.
But yeah oh my god—so in love with the play style and unique take on rogue lite

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Dusa is adorable!!

humble pollen
stray ember
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Her voice actress is amazing!

humble pollen
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Excellent you’ll fit right in

stray ember
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Yayyy ✨

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Do yall have a favorite god’s um
Is it boon?
The upgrades

humble pollen
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Zeus attack is my fav

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Especially on flurry blade

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Everything explodes

stray ember
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Also my current goal is to get Charon to love me lol

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Ooooh

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Yes that is amazing
Love the chain lightning

humble pollen
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So fun

stray ember
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I actually really like it on dash

humble pollen
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All Zeus boons all the time

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Dude’s a jerk but he knows how to give boons

stray ember
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Though Daedalus’ chop for 400% damage is 👌

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So true haha!

humble pollen
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It’s strong but I don’t like it as much 😛 Spam clicking is more fun for me

stray ember
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Spam clicking is pure joy 😂

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I also love the voice actor for Hypnos

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He reminds me a bit of the one angel from the game Catherine in the confessional

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I can’t remember his name

ebon slate
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Does bow and spear still being top?

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i cannot live without dash+sword/shield

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boh

stray ember
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I know it’s a little basic but the sword is my favorite weapon

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Bow drives me crazy
It’s not fast enough for melee

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That’s just me though haha

ebon slate
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same

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i mean, i usually play kinda hardcore

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full dash +sword is a fast clean

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bow is kinda slow for me

rustic geyser
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Game save is stored on our pcs right? Does anyone know name of the file?

ebon slate
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i guess is on documents or in game installation

rustic geyser
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Thanks. I didn't think about documents at all. I'm a smart man

hexed smelt
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documents, saved games, hades, profile1.sav or whichever profile it is you’re after

thorny river
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hey

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so

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where any new weapons released ?

livid cargo
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no

olive jungle
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Nope, not this time around

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Some new mechanics though

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Check the patch notes

thorny river
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new levels?

crimson hinge
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so wait, whats the pact of punishment

thorny river
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it makes

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the game harder

crimson hinge
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and?

thorny river
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nothing

crimson hinge
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like, whats the reward

olive jungle
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yeah it's just for fun

livid cargo
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right now the pact of punishment is solely for your own personal desire

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it'll probably do other things later

olive jungle
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Lots of people are running the game into the ground right now bc it's...well, it's fun lol

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So this is to give those folks something to do

thorny river
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its amazing

stray ember
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Yeah it’s real good

thorny river
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did we get a new world

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level ?

spring cipher
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Ive been doing pacts of punishment

gleaming crane
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Yeah, it's mostly for people who already have 300 runs and want MOAR

olive jungle
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No, check the patch notes

spring cipher
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Its the most fun ive had in a while

stray ember
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I think there’s a new boss?
I haven’t been able to play much so I’m unsure

spring cipher
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Quit an adreniline rush

gleaming crane
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So no reward.

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There's a mid-level boss in Asphodel, now, yes.

spring cipher
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Can you belive the wretched brutes do 80 damage im one swing

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Its scary stuff

stray ember
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Hahaha brutal

gleaming crane
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The important question is: do Numbskulls one-shot you on the highest levels of the pact punishment things?

spring cipher
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Umm no

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They do about

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Like 30 ish?

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Or maybe its a bit lower

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Its +500% max

gleaming crane
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"Enemies deal a gajillion per cent more damage"
ARGRARJGHH

stray ember
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😂

spring cipher
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Thats what makes it fun

gleaming crane
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I'd love a pact perk that gives you less starting HP and less HP per centaur heart. Like, start with 40 HP and gain 20 per heart, 30 HP and gain 15 per heart, and the final level is start with 2 HP and gain 1 per heart.

spring cipher
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Theres a less health from centaur heart

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Like in terms of how much you heal off it

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I dont have enough heat to max things out

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So ive stuck with makign the enemies did more damage

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More enemies

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And more health

frosty mountain
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the - boon choice pact is kinda fun

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it can serve as sort of a randomizer

spring cipher
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Idk

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Losing choice instead just making things directly more difficult isnt a thing i can get behind really

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Still gonna be doing those runs

frosty mountain
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it pushes you out of your comfort zone in a different way

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you might end up finding boons you like

spring cipher
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Ive experimented enough

frosty mountain
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and hadn't used before

livid cargo
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you might find that artemis is actually still a decent choice

spring cipher
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She is

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Crit dash is better than before

livid cargo
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i actually recently had a run where i took her attack boon

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because I had a thiccccc 63% Attack increase from a Chaos boon

frosty mountain
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that's cheating

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it stacks additively still though, right?

livid cargo
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well

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artemis doesn't boost your attack

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only gives crit chance

frosty mountain
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I mean when you crit

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you dead x3 your base dmg

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chaos boost isnt affected

livid cargo
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No, it's affected

frosty mountain
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so you'd do like 300+61

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is it?

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didn't use to be

livid cargo
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least, i think it is

spring cipher
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Crits are multiplying

frosty mountain
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old crit dash didnt boost attack boons

livid cargo
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ah well Chaos boons are different anyway I think

spring cipher
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And old crit dash did compound on attack boons

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Like athena

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Poseidon

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And aphro

frosty mountain
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yeah but it stacked additively. we tested that. in reality a "crit" was just +100% dmg. it added up with say athena +60% and you ended up with +160% dmg

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it didn't multiply the athena +60%

spring cipher
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Yeah

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I though you were saying jt added a base amount

frosty mountain
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should behave similarly still

ancient elk
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If it's 3x instead of +200% it'd be too OP even with a low chance haha

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I kinda hope it isn't 3x

frosty mountain
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idk, gotta test

livid cargo
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on a power shot, I was dealing about 130 or so

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crits were around 400

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the math adds up as a straight 3x

ancient elk
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Damn that's busted

livid cargo
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yeah, having a constant 30% crit chance was niiiiice

ancient elk
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I had 30% on bow with triple shot

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So each shot had a 30% chance

frosty mountain
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oh crit chance on triple shots works independantly?

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interesting. that's good

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how's new tripe shot btw, haven't had the chance to use it yet

livid cargo
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it's different

ancient elk
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New?

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How did they change it?

livid cargo
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arc of triple shot changed

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you can't really shotgun with it anymore

ancient elk
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O to be wider?

wet laurel
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Need to be up in the face of the enemy to hit them with all 3 now

ancient elk
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I see, it still felt powerful to me

livid cargo
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i should try making a shield charge build one of these days

ancient elk
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With the hammer boon that makes it faster

frosty mountain
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I asked this yesterday, I'll ask you guys as well. how do you feel with giant gorgon?

ancient elk
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Its insane

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Like your normal attacks turn into charge attacks str8 away

frosty mountain
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we should probably move over to gameplay btw

ancient elk
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I think the gorgon is kinda easy idk?

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yeah true

frosty mountain
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meet you there

naive goblet
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so, unimportant question. are you trying to say that chaos is non-binary or they're just so great they (or anybody) have to talk about themselves plural?

hexed smelt
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they’re nonbinary.

alpine stratus
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id say nonbinary!

gritty mica
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nyx called them specifically "my mother and my father" so I'd say nonbinary

brisk trail
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Guys, did the new update wipe the saves? If not, does Hades not support cloud saves? I recently formatted my PC and now my save slot is gone ): ): ):

hexed smelt
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oh, i haven’t gotten that talk yet

alpine stratus
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the new update didnt wipe saves, but epic games does not support cloud saves

livid cargo
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what if I am on an airplane and I save my game while flying through a cloud

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is that a cloud save?

alpine stratus
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sorry 😔 the ceo of epic will appear to stop you 😔

naive goblet
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i mean, i think it's both cos gender is inappropriate for something that great that everything emerged from it

gleaming crane
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Always backup your savefiles when formatting. Don't ever assume cloud save works.

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Even on Steam, on games WITH cloud save, it's wonky at best.

devout plinth
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mr John Epic slaps your plane from the sky

naive goblet
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xd

hexed smelt
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i mean. there doesn’t need to be a Reason for a nonbinary character to be nonbinary.

brisk trail
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@alpine stratus Well then, where exactly is the save folder located? At C/user/documents, games etc. or where the game is installed?

frosty mountain
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documents/saved games/hades

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I think

gleaming crane
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^

alpine stratus
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yeah i believe so

brisk trail
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Thanks for the answers. Now I feel super bad knowing I have to start ALL OVER. I mean, might be nice to enjoy it all with the new touches, but damn I don't want to grind to beat Hydra 2 more times /:

naive goblet
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@hexed smelt yeah but in that case there is. it sounds cool. In Russian (and probably in any other language) plural pronouns tell about greatness of a person. Like Nikolai the Second talked about himself in plural.

gleaming crane
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@brisk trail Game should be easier for you now. Should take you fewer tries than the first time to win.

hexed smelt
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when people (or primordial entities i suppose) use they/them it isn’t as a plural, though

gleaming crane
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Well, sometimes it is.

alpine stratus
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they are reffered to as a gentlebeing!

naive goblet
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my bad english maybe

gleaming crane
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Don't think it's the case for Chaos though.

naive goblet
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Yeah gentelbeing actually settles it pretty well. Still very cool

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One of my favorite characters with Dusa and Charon

brisk trail
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@gleaming crane Could be interesting to try, but I really don't want to grind for a)darkness b)keys c)ambrosia bottles in that descending order based on how frustrating it is to me 😄

gleaming crane
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Go the Poseidon route.

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200 darkness per run at least.

naive goblet
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poseidon route

frosty mountain
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poseidon with black shawl is lit

brisk trail
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What is a Posiedon route?

frosty mountain
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you heal so much

livid cargo
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get the resource buff from pos

naive goblet
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gives me flashbacks about VN past

frosty mountain
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you date poseidon of course

livid cargo
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also use the nyx keepsake to heal when you get darkness

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bada bing bada you've healed for infinite amounts

gleaming crane
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Poseidon has a boon that gives you more health, darkness and money rewards. With a few poms of power, you can triple the rewards. It's amazing.

naive goblet
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We've seen Artemis. How do you think, will we see Nyx?

frosty mountain
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no idea

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to be honest, I'm kind of attached to her placeholder look

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mostly because she's the first character you meet that has a placeholder sprite

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I just thought this was her final art. simple and clean. and I'm kinda used to it

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how do you imagine she'll look?

naive goblet
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well, long black hair, black as night. Maybe even with stars on them

frosty mountain
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hmm. I'd like her to be discreet. she's important and respected, but not as magnanimus as the olympians or hades

naive goblet
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I thoght the same way about Atremis and here we are

frosty mountain
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that's

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not how you use magnanimus btw

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you get what I mean dusa

naive goblet
brisk trail
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@gleaming crane Thanks for the explanation.

humble pollen
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Oh man just got such a fun bug where I was kneeling and gliding across the floor

brisk trail
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On an unrelated note, is there a hidden option to enable the sound when the game is put to background? It's nice that the game pauses itself while alt-tab, but losing the sound annoys me sometimes.

humble pollen
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It was amazing

frosty mountain
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no idea unbeknownst. with the spear randus?

humble pollen
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Yup!

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Power glide

frosty mountain
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you can do pirouettes while charging your spin

humble pollen
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I hope they don’t mind me sending in bug reports about really minor things, but the bubble hitboxes bother me

frosty mountain
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literally unplayable

humble pollen
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Right?

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Game breaking bug right here

livid cargo
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it's a new mechanic

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zag powers up with bubblewrap

humble pollen
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Since you can actually pop all the bubbles

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But their hitboxes are TERRIBLE

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But I feel kind of bad submitting bug reports for such trivial things

livid cargo
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feedback is good

naive goblet
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yeah, don't be anxious or something about feedback. it's early access, the best thing you can do is give a feedback

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also sysyphus isn't revealed. I start to see patern here

vast oar
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Man i kinda feel bad for Artemis she really got the short end of the stick this patch

humble pollen
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Nah, I prefer the new setup

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Crit isn’t supposed to be a guaranteed thing, and now when crits happen they’re so much more exciting

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Because the damage is crazy

vale kite
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artemis has the most op cast buffs of all gods

vast oar
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it's true but it feels rough that her power budget was focused so hard into that

fiery pebble
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Artemis' problem is that her crits are all bad

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Pressure Points is the only one thats half-decent

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And Id still rather take Urge to Kill

brisk trail
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We reached 1000 members on the subreddit 😄

wraith grove
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Has Nyx been revealed, or is that supposed to be the base design?

livid cargo
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Likely placeholder

wraith grove
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gotcha

livid cargo
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it could be her final art but probably not

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considering her 3d model looks different

wraith grove
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that's what I was thinking

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Maybe some texturing on the shroud, but to be fair a night incarnation should look like that

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gloomy, doesn't show too much at all

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cool

gilded prism
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it's defo placeholder art

brisk trail
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The robed art is all placeholder stuff

fiery pebble
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Noooo

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I almost got a 520% damage run

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Then I got hit between dodges

wet shore
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The plot twist is that The Placeholder is going to be an important character

livid cargo
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owen, that might be a bit much

vale kite
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they hold the Place

fiery pebble
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As if

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Im at 560% now

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No wait, 580%

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600% is max apparently

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Ok, maybe Im just unlucky, but is it possible that Athena always gives you a dash, cast and special boon at the start?

swift sequoia
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maybe

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maybe not

fiery pebble
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Its the fourth time in a row it happened

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Oh man this chaos boon is hilarious

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"For the next 4 encounters, you take 32% more damage"

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Im already getting oneshot by everything

trail rain
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Double edge is insanely good, probably the best Daedalus hammer upgrade for sword now.

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40% crit and 2 hits on the dash attack, combined with Deadly Strike is at minimum 80% crit chance on 2 instant strikes.

spring cipher
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?

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world splitter free

trail rain
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crits do so much damage now you basically 1 or 2 shot anything with really good range.. Old hunter's dash shield dashing wishes it was this good.

fiery pebble
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It was better, actually

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Even the old version of double edge was better, and it was awful

trail rain
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it used to always deal crit, but Crit is more effective now. much more effective

left crag
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Is there any reward for doing the Toil/heat stuff beside getting a harder run?

trail rain
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and 40% chance to crit is a lot in the new crit economy.

unique crescent
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So far the update has made the already amazing game feel even better

fiery pebble
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Whats the button for screenshots?

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And where do I find them

gusty pike
#

Dose Pact of punishment do anything besides just make the game harder?

spring cipher
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just makes the game funner

gusty pike
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Adding more Enemies is fun nothing else on there is fun.

fiery pebble
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Nah

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600% damage is fun

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Speaking of which

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600% damage run complete

gusty pike
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Can anyone tell me how to get to the Hidden enemy so I have my Codex complete.

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Oh nvm it was just the min gorgon

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That’s disappointing

warped hamlet
gusty pike
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Nice!

sick tree
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I DID IT!!!, AT LAST!!, I DID IT!! - On my 119th run, I finally beat the Hydra!~

hexed smelt
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congrats!!

sick tree
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Not quite as impressive as @warped hamlet 's achievement but whatever!, I'm happy XD

warped hamlet
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hah :d grats @sick tree

sick tree
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Thank you~ thank you~ takes a bow

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:3

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I love the 4th wall breaking snide conversation Zag and Hades have when you get back~

patent umbra
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Oh chaos boons have a chance to give something else when they trigger, Thematic I suppose.

fiery pebble
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They do?

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Thats news to me

patent umbra
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Well I wanted the +damage, but its switched to increased darkness gain

vast oar
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does anyone know what that little perfect landing text is? i've seen it afew times when i start a run and i don't know what it's doing or how im doing it

fiery pebble
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If you press the dash button at the right time

hexed smelt
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just mash any input

fiery pebble
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You get that little text

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Doesnt do anything

hexed smelt
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it does nothing, it's jsut fun

fiery pebble
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Basically, yeah

vast oar
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hmm cool

fiery pebble
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Really hope well get some changes to the pact system so that there are more fun options

quick skiff
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This has probably been mentioned a bunch but I wouldn't mind being able to dash cancel the sword nova like you can the spear spin

brazen lake
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anyone else think the game can be an absolute clusterheck sometimes?

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like when you get a critical mass of enemies that just make it impossible to see whos where and whats what?

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especially in the second part

muted ether
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is Boiling blood bugged?

shell flame
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happens when you get the survive for a minute rooms in asphodel for me

sinful lantern
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ez pz

brazen lake
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yeah and it gets even worse with the smoke clouds

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literally designed to make the problem even worse

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unlike all the other traps it doesnt seem to give you any sort of opportunity for you to use it against the enemies

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it just makes your vision even more messed up

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intentionally so

sick tree
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Slightly silly random question: Does Zagreus literally have one red eye and one green eye or is that just part of the art style?

When I first noticed it in his conversation image....thingy, I assumed the idea was that his eyes were both green but appeared red when they're in shadow
and that the only reason they didn't match was because he's posed in such a way that one eye is hidden from direct light

I've seen that exact thing done elsewhere to show duality in a character or to subtly (not very subtly) indicate they have malicious intent

brazen lake
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maybe they just couldnt decide whether he should have red or green eyes and gave him both? volfredthink

sick tree
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So I'm not 100% sure either way since they're aren't many pictures of him straight on that would make it clear

rich solar
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Hi is Hades Feedback closed at the moment

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It says I don't have permission to post there

livid cargo
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@rich solar you might need the Hades role

rich solar
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Oh okay do you mind telling me how that's done?

brisk trail
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@rich solar

rich solar
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Would make sense to put the info on hades info wouldn't it too?

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I think I got it Thanks @brisk trail @livid cargo

brisk trail
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no problem!

rich solar
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Just a note it seems like there is two roles relevant to Hades, Hades and Early Access, it's the latter that seems to open access to providing Hades Feedback

slender linden
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good point tbh

sick tree
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Since I "finished" the game earlier today, I've just been running around seeing what kinds of mischief I can get into,
Thus, I have a silly little challenge for anyone who feels like goofing around for a few minutes:

I only recently noticed that the Stygian blade's special leaves a small mark on the floor directly in front of you every time you use it
and none of those marks appear to go away until you leave the room,

Which means: you can use it to write stuff!~
Why not leave a message for Hades or whoever is responsible for cleaning this stuff up when you've passed by and finished vandalising the architecture?
XD

brisk trail
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yeah we just dont want everyone rushing into feedback right away

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we wanna make sure they read the pin first and know how to post

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so we use a more hidden role

slender linden
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that's also a fair point

brisk trail
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people often forget to seperate their feedback into multiple messages if they have multiple different things to say

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which doesnt really work for obvious reasons

alpine stratus
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omg. i would LOVE to see ppl write messages like that

livid cargo
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dark souls would sue mmLol

alpine stratus
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someone pls write. "[BEEP] you dad" on the floor jfngngnv

livid cargo
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language

alpine stratus
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no no you gotta write [BEEP]

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or proxy will kill zag in game

brisk trail
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hmmm adding messages in different spots to the game....I would totally add a message in Asphodel "Go to the corner of this map! Secret room!"

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not even the underworld is safe from proxies wrath

livid cargo
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there would be too many memes

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hey patch notes

viral frost
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patch came out as i launched the game

brisk trail
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ugh

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im not at my PC

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i cant make a reddit or wiki post

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this is struggling

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I am unsure if people have reported about the new enemy that goes up in the air, acting weird at times

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As in it would just randomly wander out to the lava for no reason.

prime shore
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Wow this patch has the gayest quote in forever

alpine stratus
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SO TGE PATCH QUOTE HUH

prime shore
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lovin it

alpine stratus
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YEAH I WAS BOUT TO SAY

livid cargo
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Kimo, is the wiki the gamepedia one?

prime shore
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today my mom said :

viscid blade
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what do you guys think about the new miniboss?

prime shore
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"patroklos? You mean the gay sock following Achilles like a duck" (In german its funnier I sweat)

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I cant play ;_; must study

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Im so jelly of ylal

karmic basalt
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gl w studying!

livid cargo
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@brisk trail i could write it up, would it be Patch 007?

winged vapor
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thanks for that sad patch quote of the day, supergiant, didnt need to cry

brisk trail
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patch 008

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and yeah the wiki

prime shore
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Oh mood

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cant wait to read the song of achilles

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: D

winged vapor
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its good readin

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well

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I listened to an audiobook

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So it was good...listening

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If you have audible you can get it with your tokens

prime shore
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:0

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I dont want to cry tho

winged vapor
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its one of the books you can read for free

prime shore
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I know the whole story ;_;

winged vapor
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Yeah

prime shore
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I want a ....happy ending

winged vapor
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Might be considered off topic lets bounce

prime shore
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angst with happy end

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true

jaunty falcon
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artemis boons got stomped

winged vapor
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WHAT

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HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO PASS MEG NOW

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The answer: I dont

wraith jasper
#

Arty is still good, but yeah, her boons got the hammer pretty hard

gleaming crane
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If you're playing cast or special, her boons are still as good, really.

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And even for attack, with the help of Chaos boons, they're still great. Dealt 510 damage on crits.

twin mason
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I wonder if this patch fixed the other boons that weren't showing up correctly when chaos boons were equipped.

brisk trail
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I guess I was the only one who didn't rely on Artemis boon.

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I don't mind the point pressure one but the rest were ehhh

dark owl
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Question: Do the pact of punishments have any rewards to them? Or just for fun

livid cargo
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@brisk trail I think I didn't mess it up

brisk trail
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link?

livid cargo
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Hades Wiki

Early Access Patch 008 - January 16, 2019
This patch addresses several issues reported by players following our first Major Update. We're continuing to monitor feedback and expect to make further adjustments this week.

brisk trail
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Looks good!

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Thank you

livid cargo
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no problem

gleaming crane
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@dark owl Just for fun.
@brisk trail I wouldn't say I rely on it, but they were always a lot of fun to play. They were also the most insane builds in terms of damage per attack (especially for cast)

dark owl
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@gleaming crane Thanks 😄

hexed smelt
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hey who do i have to 🔪 for that patch quote

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i get home from a lovely evening out and see this with my own eyes

humble pollen
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Who’s cutting onion

fiery pebble
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Hades apparently

hexed smelt
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now take this healing item that only restores 1 hp, go, fetch

fiery pebble
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Just imagine Achilles and Patroclus having a tearful reunion, and Zag decides to go for payback by putting cut onions under Hades' face

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Like in that one spongebob episode

twin mason
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So I just gave dusa an ambrosia and there was no dialogue whatsoever?

marsh crater
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Soo did the chaos update reset save progress or is it something else?

hexed smelt
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chaos update does not reset your save progress

marsh crater
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Alright cool, thanks.

humble pollen
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Saves aren’t kept on the cloud, so if you’ve changed computers or something those won’t carry over automatically

marsh crater
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Reinstalled windows, but i found the thing to copy over in the info channel, might be worth adding it to the FAQ on the epic page tho

safe lodge
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Am I the only one having issue with no-hit rooms?

humble pollen
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Nah they’re hard

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Lava OP

gleaming crane
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Depends on what kind you get, really. Had one with brimstones and bloodless, with bow it was easy.

vale kite
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bite this onions

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cronch

hexed smelt
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i keep taking one tick of lava damage and failing them so i'm Bitter

humble pollen
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Saaame

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Wish they had better rewards

vale kite
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ive got a theory

humble pollen
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To justify all the extra work dodging lava

vale kite
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yknow how slam-dancers and bloodless appear in tartarus as minibosses

hexed smelt
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i like to think hades gives an onion as the fail-reward because zag hates onions

vale kite
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what if the giant gorgon head in asphodel becomes a regular enemy in the next zone

safe lodge
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At least 3 runs ended because I couldn't get what I wanted... All because I can not play hitless

gleaming crane
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Yeah, I think having regular rewards if you finish the room while getting hit and either increased rewards for darkness and money or an additional small money or darkness reward for all others when you beat it without taking hits would be better.

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It's up to you to build your own luck devildragon. That's how rogue-lites work. You don't get what you want? Well, want something else.

safe lodge
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Anything's better than onion, to be fair

humble pollen
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I want to pet Cerberus

safe lodge
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Wish this was also something to enable with the Pact of Punishment

hexed smelt
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so you pet cerberus? yes what did it cost? everything

devout plinth
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And it was worth it

errant garden
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I lost a no hit room by dashing through a gorgon shot

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it did 0 damage, didn't stun

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but counter as getting hit 😄

gritty roost
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Finally beat the Hydra on 101st run... I'm really glad that fight was rebalanced in the Chaos Update because both me and my housemate have been cursing the Hydra for weeks now...

opal viper
brisk trail
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@opal viper Grats.

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Uhm..

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If it is spoilers, shouldn't it go into spoilers?

gleaming crane
brisk trail
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Messy. <.<

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Delete your comment then.

fiery pebble
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Wait, is there a new piece of decor?

untold belfry
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Just picked up the game, in love with it already, favorite roguelike since Gungeon.

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although I gotta say (and I dread to say this and invoke a nerf) the Spear might be a smidge OP. The range and attack rate make it easy to stunlock un-armored enemies into oblivion, although it did me little good against the first legit boss.

gleaming crane
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Good thing there are plenty of armoured enemies, then.

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Also, all weapons have good points. You'll find plenty of people to tell you bow is the best weapon. Some will even tell you sword is the best weapon. Don't think I saw anybody say shield is the best weapon, but it's still a pretty good one.

bright girder
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shatter shot isn't like a homing cast right?

gleaming crane
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You mean Aphrodite's Scatter shot? It's pretty much a shotgun.

bright girder
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okay ty

marsh crater
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Did the game get uncapped FPS or something? Feels strangely much better than before, but there's a lot of changes that contribute to that

grand crystal
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same

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the game runs much cleaner on my toaster of a computer

olive jungle
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probably some optimization going on under the hood!

marsh crater
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Probably connected to that stuttering thing they had before that would micropause the game when you dealt a large hit

ancient elk
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@alpine stratus to what you said in feedback, I got that boon for 3 encounters, and the next room after that was sis's room so I thought it was a bug where it went on for 4 encounters 😂

alpine stratus
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AAAAAAA

ancient elk
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the worst timeline, but I got a nice sis surprise so maybe the best?!

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Love that dood

jovial marsh
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Hey y'all, new to the server - is there somewhere to report bugs? (and/or see what bugs have already been reported)

alpine stratus
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if you press f10 a bug reporter pops up!

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(in the game not on discord)

jovial marsh
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Oh! Perfect! Thanks so much

alpine stratus
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👌 sure

rotund sable
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I can't really say it's best, because I finished the game more times with other weapons, but I DEFINITELY feel the best with the shield. Absolutely love it.

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With every hit I feel like I'm punching through concrete 😄

hexed smelt
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@raven timber do you have the latest patch? it mentions Fixed an issue scrolling the Codex pages with controller

raven timber
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I do. It’s miles better than it was before, but still not great.

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On the other hand, I just poked around my controller settings and found out why the d-pad wasn’t doing anything, which effectively solved all my problems except that you have to press the button multiple times to scroll multiple items, which isn’t a big deal.

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@fathom cloud when you encounter Sisyphus and have health selected, there’s a bubble that pops up that tells you how much you have.

wooden quartz
#

that last wave is brutal

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burnt through three death defiances and a full healthbar right on that wave

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(i was up to 165 for health at that point)

void vigil
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spoilers! squirtooh

sick laurel
#

I JUST BEAT THE HYDRA FOR THE FIRST TIME!!! took me forever

minor hornet
#

congrats!

sick laurel
#

im so happy because i wanted to be able to do the stuff that is unlocked after you beat hydra and now i finally have access

desert viper
#

You guys think Hades'll be good for speed running?

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Once people find optimal strats

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Cuz I've been trying and it's been decent

sick laurel
#

in my opinion its a definite possibility

desert viper
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Not recording times yet but my fastest run was ~30 mins

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I ran Spear and Artemis trinket

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Crit dash

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Spam hold attack

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Upgrade charge time on hold attack

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One shot most enemies

tepid orchid
#

I know there were some pre-patch runs that were sub-10

bleak sandal
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30 attempts... 5555 kills. Nice

foggy zephyr
#

Found a room in which I can dash outside of the stage, lol

vale drift
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@foggy zephyr Hey if you could provide a screenshot we'd appreciate it...! We'd like to fix stuff like that as soon as we can.

cold plover
olive jungle
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read the pinned post

stoic bay
#

getting a chance to really dig into the update, and I must say, I am loving Chaos. Their boons are exactly the kind of interesting/dynamic decisions I like to see

noble hornet
#

So what happens if you lose all your save data, and cannot get it back? Because it just happened to me.

olive jungle
#

What happened specifically?

amber ember
#

haven't been able to play since the update just yet, so i'm still very confused as to what the heck is "Heat"

olive jungle
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you use it to make the game harder if for some reason you want more challenge out of the game

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it's a new resource you can get during runs, like darkness and keys

drowsy karma
#

I finished the game with +90% enemies with 22 minutes. While i did the same in 23 minutes without any heat mods xD

steady plume
#

LOL awesome

strange cradle
#

Hades is Great, I've played a few sessions, I'm up to almost 50 runs?

I've not been looking at any info outside the game for hte first 50 runs, but now I'm really curious what resources people like?

bleak sandal
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Heat is also a neat little red skull icon on your safe file to show how many times you got warm!

alpine silo
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@strange cradle Right now the game suffer a lot of resources abundance. However. I used to like Darkness.

brisk trail
#

I'm conflicted on the description of the Trojan Arms decoration. Its description reads: "A display of broken arms from a historic siege." - I do think it should be: "A display of broken arms from AN historic siege." - I don't know why I think it should be like that, but it runs better in my opinion. In this case I actually am not sure of the grammatical spectrum.

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"an" before a vovel sound. "his..." is a consonant sound, so "a" is correct

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it would be "from an epic siege" though, because "e" is a vovel sound

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(i write "vovel sound" instead of just "vovel" because the actual pronounciation is what matters, not the letter itself. for example "an hour")

hexed smelt
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(it’s spelled “vowel” just fyi ;p)

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in some places, for some reason “historic” is pronounced without the H

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so it would be “an historic” in that case

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but “a historic” is ‘more’ correct

subtle notch
#

I still haven't had the time to play the new update but I jsut saw the blast email and the new Artemis art is amazingggg!! 💖 💚 ❣

hexed smelt
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yessssss i love her

subtle notch
#

the birds on her bow are Friends

hexed smelt
#

they’re so tiny ;3;

brisk trail
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I don't like the shield so I don't rly use it but spear runs always end up underwhelming so I just play bow/sword

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@brisk trail Once you realize you can charge up the spear and then dash, it makes using the spear a lot more effective and fun. It has decent damage and good range. Solid weapon.

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Yea I'm aware of that I use it too

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But think of it this way why bother playing the spear when you can go sword + athena "your special is stronger and can reflect" + nova aoe upgrade from daedalus and just T-pose aoe all the mobs down + reflect in all directions for 200+ dmg, I had a run that I was doing 650 non crit with it

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I'd be ok with the spear if the charge was faster, like how it is if you get the daedalus upgrade but from the start

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Like with the bow you have the potential of doing 1k+ crits, with the sword you can clear rooms in 20 seconds with the right nova combo, what does the spear have going for it?

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Unless I'm missing something

void vigil
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please don’t post spoilers in this channel! 🙏

brisk trail
#

Oh, my bad, I just wanted to post the victory screen to show my stats with the weapons, noted

olive jungle
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Gameplay is a good place for that!

junior crane
#

Hey guys, I’m kinda new to the discord but super hyped about Hades. I’m definitely getting it now, but for interest’s sake in the future, have the devs announced any plans to increase the price of the game on full release?

bleak sandal
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They have not, they have mentioned porting it to other platforms at some point after it is no longer in early access... but didnt specifiy which ones...
I want it on the go though, sooo... Switch it up!

copper bough
#

Chaos is so good 👌

olive jungle
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they ARE

brisk trail
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@olive jungle btw if you want to be more correct since i'm Greek, it's χάος :D

olive jungle
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i know, just at the time i changed it i was in a hurry and i haven't fixed it lol

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and i'm on mobile now :')

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Been too busy playing the update to bother! i'll get it when i get home

bleak sandal
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Look here you... Most english speakers can't even use the correctly, do you think we are gonna do well with difficult foreign letters and sounds?

bleak sandal
#

Though... if one of his boons turned everything into greek to cause chaos... that would be a neat effect to see once in a while

alpine stratus
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GFHHFHFNV THATD B SO FUNNY

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"its all greek to me" boon

tardy cedar
#

Hello guys!
I've never received the Codex from Achilles.
Is it a known bug? Maybe there is a known fix for it that you are aware of?

tender maple
#

is there a way to see how much money is saved in coin purse xd

olive jungle
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@tardy cedar it is a known bug but it should have been fixed a while back; keep talking to him and you should get it!

slender linden
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talk to Achilles whenever you can, he should give it to you eventually

tardy cedar
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@olive jungle thanks! I'll try that after I finish this run and report back.

hexed smelt
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i wouldn't call tuesday a while back but okay ven ;P

slender linden
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pfft

olive jungle
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i thought it had been addressed before that?

fickle karma
#

it's a whopping two days shadeohboy

olive jungle
#

greg said something about it well before this latest patch...

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i think i'm getting that mixed up

slender linden
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maybe he said they have a fix prepared for next patch

fickle karma
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Chaos is messing with you, ven squirtdevious

hexed smelt
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nah, it's been a known issue for a while now but it only cropped up in a patch in the chaos update

olive jungle
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i would not complain about chaos messing with me

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ANYWAYS it's been patched regardless so

slender linden
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wooo!

fickle karma
#

ven... squirtdevious

thorn rapids
#

hello. i noticed Hades had a price drop from $19.99 to $9.99. is this temporary?

olive jungle
#

It's probably regional pricing!

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Epic implemented it recently

thorn rapids
#

oh, i see

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i was hoping they would

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i now have no reason to not buy this game!

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tho id gladly buy it again for full price if/when it fully releases on switch

drowsy karma
#

Yeah, game for sure worth it's price.

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I need to check regional pricing though.

#

A friend of mine was planning to buy it too.

vale kite
devout plinth
#

but mooooooom

livid cargo
#

I see

prime harness
#

lol

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she looks great tho:)

alpine stratus
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pastes this on top of the phone basket in a school

ivory tide
#

It's so weird that I somehow already got accustomed to the placeholder artwork for Artemis and the real one now makes me confused.

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The same way as seeing a picture of someone that you've only known by voice

hexed smelt
#

athena did her hair for her

prime harness
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she does have the best art imo

devout plinth
#

OH now that you mention it

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That is Athena hair kinda huh, shes rockin it tho

vale kite
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it's a wig

brazen stone
#

Are there any Hades gifs knocking about?

brazen stone
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Found a couple

devout plinth
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cvfhb artemis snatched Athena’s wig

vale kite
#

i mean have you seen athena and artemis together at the same time?

livid cargo
#

yes

vale kite
#

god trials are just like, pre-recorded messages

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it doesnt count!!!!

livid cargo
#

Here's my counter-argument: dusa

dark glade
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Do y’all know if crit stacks additively? Like if I have hunter dash with 20% crit and regular attack boon with 25% crit, after I dash does my next attack have 45% crit?

tender maple
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guess i shouldnt have killed hydra so early . now i get heat instead of bottles and keys

rustic geyser
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@dark glade I don't have stats to back me up but it strongly feels like it does stack the way you said it

timber igloo
#

is it just me or sword special kind of sucks?

tender maple
#

i think bow sucks more tbh

timber igloo
#

I actually had most success with bow

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Bought the game yesterday tho

thick sphinx
#

Sword special is weak in the way that you're stunned for 9 years, so if you dont hit what you intended to hit, then theres a good chance you get hit

timber igloo
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Exactly, and skulls and bombs just love crashing in the middle just after you cast the special

cold plover
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it's not bad, try it with supernova and athena deflect

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but it's not good if you want to do fast runs because it's so slow and in generell the long recovery time can feel kinda clunky

karmic trellis
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yeah I did some of my easier runs with it

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some of the best crowd control

cold plover
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but it's not bad and definetly capable of completing runs

timber igloo
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I'll have to try it out, currently sticking with 400% attack

karmic trellis
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with good damage boon and super nova I got to the point where I could just let enemies come to me and one shot them over and over and over until the room was clear

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before latest patch though

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the knockback helps a lot

timber igloo
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Even tho, i think that fast swipe+athena deflect might be really nice

cold plover
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yes, silvercopper, latest patch nerfed it hard

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from 200% -> 130%

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still decent though

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and you can use arthemis crit dash on it now

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which is kinda crazy good for dps boost

hexed lichen
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oh, so there is no cloud safe? decided to play on my laptop and safe is emptyyy T.T

alpine stratus
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no cloud save, sorry!

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that's an epic games issue, not a hades issue

hexed lichen
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yeah

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i figured

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well, thanks for confirmation

slender linden
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you can copy your save if you have access to your previous pc

cedar hollow
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And yes I reported it

autumn pine
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what are the new stomper creatures in asphodel? I wanna add a bit of feedback but I'm not sure their proper names

arctic cave
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Are those the Megagorgons?

autumn pine
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uhhh I ran into gorgon heads im not sure

arctic cave
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Well, yeah, I ran into those two

void vigil
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skullcrushers

arctic cave
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Oooo

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Ok

autumn pine
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ty!

timber igloo
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Wooo hoo 1st hydra kill, zeus on attach with bow ftw

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and rapid fire

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attack*

hexed smelt
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i only just noticed that poseidon's little crown is shaped like seahorses :'D

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i thought it was just coral or something

dawn path
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Net Tartarus maps look nice.

flint osprey
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I can't help but think cerberus is gonna be one of the final bosses, and fighting that puppy will break my heart.

mint horizon
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Hi everyone just found out a bug where should i post the screen

signal spoke
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if youre still in game, press f10 while playing and it will open up a window

humble pollen
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I refuse to fight pupper

rustic geyser
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I wouldn't make sense if we didn't fight Cerberus. He's the iconic Hades Guardian

humble pollen
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Want to ride on Cerberus’s back into glorious battle

mint horizon
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And if im not , i managed to """fix""" by killing the monster who was stucked in the wall

karmic basalt
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bribe cerberus w treats and when he's distracted run past the door

supple cloud
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I know what is past the door, I'm gonna tell you but I don't have much time, I am being followed and I think they might have caug

karmic basalt
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😔 🙏 goodbye brave soul

humble pollen
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I know!

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We just need to bring Orpheus along with us to sing Cerby to sleep

supple cloud
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well he is standing like 10 meters away from him anyway

humble pollen
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Hush I want to bring Orpheus with me just let me have this ;_;

supple cloud
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any escape plan that does not involve bouldy is not acceptable

vale kite
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gorgons are just feral dusas

dawn path
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Truth

sick tree
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Okay so, I know Meg got her health massively reduced in the Chaos update and that's why she's suddenly a lot easier to beat but I choose to believe that after Zag killed her a bunch of times and brought her lots of ambrosia, she just started giving up on fights way sooner,
It's not like she likes him or anything!,
baka!!

dawn path
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I didn't like how they nerfed her health, but that explanation makes it 1000X better!

flint osprey
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I like that they nerfed her health a little bit, but they gave her more invulnerability time.

I'm really digging the chaos trade offs. They're super fun. I also like that Aphrodite got nerfed. Dash builds with weakness exploit and curse we're pretty disgusting for clear speed/damage output.

dawn path
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I don't think they gave her more invulnerability time, they just made it so we could tell when she's invulnerable easier. Which is a change that I am 100% behind.

charred yoke
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I think Meg needs a buff to her in game insults towards Zag... I don’t mind taking a extra long time to beat her if I get to hear her talk. Nerfing her wouldn’t be the way I would go... Go home Zag!

sterile peak
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I think she's at the point where she really is just saying that so Hades will get off her back

steep parrot
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Ohhh i killed final boss first time

livid cargo
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congrats

steep parrot
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How can i use heat?

livid cargo
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you use it to make the game harder

steep parrot
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AAa, thanks

ivory tide
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I also just the got final boss for the first time. With Zeus lightning casts!

pearl estuary
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I think I should re-evaluate my opinion of some of the Artemis Boons. Deadly Strike and Deadly Flourish are a bit underwhelming (particularly Flourish), but her supplemental Boons like Pressure Points and Clean Kill are VERY strong now. Perhaps this trade-off is intentional?

livid cargo
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i think so

wise dune
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Eating gyros for dinner

livid cargo
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zag wannabe spotted

wise dune
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So getting 50 health back

twilit wind
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If I'm reading the dynamic right it seems like Zag and Meg have some romantic history, right? Is the (what would have been before Zag learned about his birth mother) implied incest something thats just gonna be glossed over as part and parcel of the Greek myth theme?

arctic cave
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It seems like it will be glossed over as much as Sisphyus's real crime will be

crisp ice
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That he served the gods his own family members? Yeah lol

arctic cave
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Yeah...

karmic basalt
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squints suspiciously at the food he gives us

arctic cave
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He did do the second thing

crisp ice
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It would actually be more interesting if Zag learns about that later

arctic cave
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Trying to cheat death

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But the first one is what got him into Tartarus in the first place.

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The other myth is that he literally chained up death for a while

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Greek myth isn't known for being particularly consistent

solar coral
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Does anyone else miss the timer delay in the survive rooms?

arctic cave
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No

prisma fossil
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Isn't the guy who served his own family members called Tantalus?

arctic cave
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That's the one

crisp ice
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Oh right

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Got the wrong one my bad

arctic cave
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Forgot about him

prisma fossil
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Tantalus is also held in Hades, so it's understandable

crisp ice
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Hes the guy that has to suffer being in the river and under a fruit tree for all eternity with both being out of his reach

arctic cave
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Tartarus punishments got personal

solar coral
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Tartarus was an ironic hell, so that’s kinda the point

arctic cave
sick tree
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@twilit wind - Huh... maybe?
Incest is indeed very common in Greek mythology but, at least with the primordial entities, you can interoperate their children as just sorta springing forth from the abstract concept they represent, rather than literally being born, in the traditional sense
Nyx, being the physical manifestation of the night, can be considered the parent of anything that came into existence as she and her fellow primordials created the day/night cycle as we know it

arctic cave
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Yeah, Incest wasn't a big deal in Greek myths

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Killing your guests, yes

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Boning a close relative: you're a god, mortal things don't apply

prisma fossil
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The form we see them in isn't even their "real" form too, just personifications

arctic cave
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Avatars

prisma fossil
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There's a myth where Dionysus's mom goes insane from seeing Zeus in his real form

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Or dies w/e

arctic cave
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Gets reduced to gibs

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Or ash

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Except for Dionysus

prisma fossil
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Who gets sown into Zeus's thigh to be born, bc... uh, yes

arctic cave
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Yeah...

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Because that makes sense

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Of course, he is the head god

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He does what he wants

sick tree
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The "excuse"?, I just gave only really applies to the primordial Gods since they don't typically have an actual human body, just an avatar of sorts

But the titans and Olympians have no such excuse, they really, definitely are incestuous

arctic cave
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But apart from Theseus I don't remember incest biting anyone in the ass

prisma fossil
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There was that whole Oedipus thing

humble pulsar
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Incest is like the middle name of the Olympians ngl

arctic cave
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Er

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Oedipus

humble pulsar
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flashbacks from Greek literature class

arctic cave
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Yeah...

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I mean, they only had so many parents

sick tree
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Well, Ares is widely hated, by both mortals and other Gods,
and he's the child of siblings, Zeus and Hera so interoperate that however you like
but he's also extremely attractive, physically so I donno

arctic cave
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Except for Aphrodite who spawn from testicle-blood-foam

brisk trail
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hey everyone -- this server isn’t for incest-related discussion, please take it elsewhere

sick tree
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Was literally about to point out 75% of this conversation will/should be deleted XD

brisk trail
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agreed..! let’s not ever go there

arctic cave
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Ok!

humble pulsar
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lol this got a tad bit out of hand

lethal shoal
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Hi, I´m seching for the Hades trailer, not for the 2 min. long but for the youtube add 30 sec. long. Is possible to find that one somewhere?

olive jungle
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I'm not sure...I don't think I've seen that version either

lethal shoal
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Is there at least chance to find it on youtube as an add. Meaning that I will went from video with adds to video with adds and just waiting till the rng hits right?

olive jungle
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I would assume so? I don't really know though, sorry!

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I haven't encountered the ad myself i use adblock, oops

hexed smelt
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the meg fight feels..... very different when the music doesn't play,,

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there's no music in asphodel either 😱

olive jungle
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yeah you should probably send a bug report just so they can see what's going on with your file lol

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i've gotten runs where music doesn't play in a single room...kam got a run earlier that didn't have any music at all tho

pearl estuary
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Observation in case anyone wasn't sure: I have a Chaos Boon and a normal Boon that both increase Attack damage and they appear to be stacking multiplicatively.

gray yarrow
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Do boons normally stack if they’re not power ups? I was under the impression they don’t

winged vapor
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Can't believe hypnos would stand there and call me an idiot as if I don't already know smh

brisk trail
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it s so endearing.. i love hypnos 😍

remote saffron
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yay hades finally has an icon in discord stuff

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thank you guys

prisma wind
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I'm not sure what you mean, Lumi?

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Oh, are you talking about on the currently playing thing on profiles?

brisk trail
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yeah that s the one

bleak sandal
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Thats the only icon I see... or am I missing something?

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I'm under the impression the basic emotes (ex: shadedisgruntled ) are more of SGg overall

prisma wind
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As mentioned above, it's for when you click on someone's profile who is playing Hades

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You will see the Hades logo/icon

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There are 3 official Hades emotes, though — dusa onion bouldy

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Though I guess the Shades are all technically Hades as well

bleak sandal
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LOL

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Thats funny

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the statement stands, the onion is a load of arse

prisma wind
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I think it's funny 🙃

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Though maybe also a gameplay spoiler? volfredthink I guess as long as we don't say when/where it comes in it's fine in this channel...

bleak sandal
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It is sometimes... like if a chest wants to say 'you're slow'... but the floor is lava... I basically tripped and wound up with a taste of onion

spring cipher
alpine stratus
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tbh i cant be mad at losing the challemges ever bc of how hard the onion makes me laugh

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THE SAD LITTLE NOISE....

spring cipher
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def think they should have the skull though

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cause the rooms are hard

bleak sandal
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Someone suggested making it the 'prize' for being absolute pants... I'm like... seems like a cool idea

alpine stratus
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wait do you mean that the prize for WINNING should be a paor of pants

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ONION OR PANTS ZAG WHATS IT GONA BE

prisma wind
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I'm pretty sure Zag pants after dashing around all combat anyway Kappa

gray yarrow
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i made the mistake of accepting a boon from chaos that damaged you for dashing, right before meg

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it's really hard to beat meg without dashing

alpine stratus
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SAME

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chaos: whoopsie

prisma wind
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I like the voice lines when you proc a chaos debuff

indigo tartan
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Hi guys, I saw in the info that the game requires 10GB free space, but do you know the precise amount? Actually I don't have a stable connection due to moving, and I dunno if I have enough data to download it in case I buy it

olive jungle
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just the program files folder says 4.73 gigs on my machine, but there are probably bits and pieces lurking elsewhere

indigo tartan
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nice thanks!

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how's the update tho? I wanted to buy the game at release but I've been busy with the academy

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Haven't seen a single gameplay cause I wanna be spoiler free when I buy, but I'm super curious

olive jungle
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so far it's really enjoyable! lots of good quality of life updates, some mechanics introduce for people who want to keep playing the game past its current content

indigo tartan
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"some mechanics introduce for people who want to keep playing the game past its current content" sorry I'm not native english, could you please explain it in some other words? Sorry lol

sterile peak
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more ways to replay the game

olive jungle
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There are a lot of people who like playing the game, but there isn't a lot of story right now, and you get stuff every time you play through the game

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You couldn't do anything with all that stuff before

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So SGG added a shop where you can "sell" it for other stuff, plus ways to make the game harder

indigo tartan
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😮

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thanks, I'm super hyped, can't wait to play it myself D:

plain blade
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Hey there. I was wondering what engine Hades is running on?

olive jungle
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I believe it's a proprietary engine

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The scripts are written in a combo of Lua and XML though

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FMOD is used for audio integration

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And BINK for animations

plain blade
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Oh really? I thought it was C# based

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Because thats what Bastion and Transistor ran on

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If im correct

olive jungle
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I'm not sure what the engine is made of, but the scripts are in Lua

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it could be C# based! i think they've been using the same engine since the beginning

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but I also think the Lua scripting started back in Pyre

bleak sandal
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W/e engine it is in, it runs very smooth compared to many similar games

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SGg seem to polish their code and engine to run well, despite having many things going on

plain blade
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There is heavy use of pre-rendered assets as opposed to realtime rendering which is why the performance is quite good and it also looks really pretty.

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This has always been the case with SGG's previous titles

bleak sandal
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So most of the background is just a big picture with 'can' and ;can not' walk areas?

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like OoT

plain blade
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Sort of.

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Most of UI stuff are bink videos.

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Thats what I think at least because TIL that they also use Bink.

prisma wind
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That is more or less how it goes, yeah. I think there was some talk from someone on the dev team about this... Maybe it was on twitter?

gray yarrow
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for a procedurally generated game, hades looks really nice

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the backgrounds are pre-rendered but there's always new event rooms or dialogue

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the only thing that I would change was the amount of armored enemies in the last patch

hot oriole
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so idk if i missed this but

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is the Pact of Punishment... solely for making the game harder? like, it doesn't do anything else?

prisma wind
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That is correct, for now at least

hot oriole
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ok, thanks

spring lantern
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Love all super giant games but why does every character talk in such a hushed tone? I love it, it's like ASMR. I'm just wondering if there's a reasoning behind it.

cedar hinge
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interesting, i only noticed that with Meg’s voice! (which makes her really intimidating imo)

drowsy karma
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#MegOneLove

slender linden
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my headcanon is that Hades doesnt want them to talk to Zag

drowsy karma
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He doesn't seem to care.

slender linden
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...true

drowsy karma
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Daddy don't hurt me.

sour tide
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Does anyone know how effects stack in Hades, does the universal crit chance have a seperate trigger from an ability that already has crit chance, is it additive, does it work together in some other way? Similarly Chaos rooms prevent you from picking a room choice for the next room but does it send you to a new, random, room or the next room you had available (or one of the available ones if there are several)?

karmic trellis
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I believe crit is additive e.g 20 % crit after dash stack with 20% crit on attack to become 40%

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as for the chaos rooms its a bit murky I have found that sometimes it picks a room in accordance with exits in the room you came from but I have also on occasion had it pick something different (even skipping the entire bomber boss encounter on a room that only had that as exit, I never encountered the bomber boss fight on that run)

tender maple
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how many darness did you have

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@brisk trail

void vigil
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no spoilers here please ;-;

brisk trail
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? people are talking about the bosses all over.. oh well

void vigil
bleak sandal
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Question.. in the feedback zone... Whats an "X" mean vs a thumbs down?

olive jungle
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it means the feedback is irrelevant, or a duplicate. you can read the pinned post in the feedback channel for more

stark bane
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i need to buy this new update to play it or what? (i opened epic and there was notification that there is some chaos update or something)

olive jungle
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You don't have to buy the update, it's free and will install automatically

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The game is in early access, so it will be updated constantly as development goes on

stark bane
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thanks for info,

subtle notch
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Last night I had a dream that I was Poseidon and I was at some store with my brother Zeus

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and just now I got my first Legendary boon and it is Poseidon's

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:'3

solar coral
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Given the new art for Artemis replacing the old shrouded character, eventually, will all the shrouded characters get new art?

subtle notch
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Yes they will

solar coral
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Sweet

bleak sandal
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It would seem