#h1-discussion
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finally got all my hearts as high as they'll go...
now just... obal/shadows
bloodless/hydra
and weapon kills and i'll have completed the codex !!!
@prime shore MOOD
Idk where to post this but there was a nice review of hades recently 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDAWvcxhOHc
Hades is the next big thing from Supergiant. From what I've played so far, I think it's pretty clear that these guys are once again on track to deliver. No s...
Im so scared Sisy will be ugly lmao
He#s been doing Bouldy for centuties he is buff asf
I have a lot of emotional investment in his design
What if they make him
whispers
Emo
Then he'll be even hotter 👀
Anakcciahd
Ofc his heart is <3<3
Who will SSG cater to? Team emo Sisy or Team buff sisy
both
neither
yeah, why not both 🤔
Buff emo is just Zag
together weve predicted the full range of sisy designs
They go so far in neither direction that they make them into a puppycat
without a doubt
quick someone google anime sisyphus and share it if it's sfw
... I aint doing that at work
For some reason I can't send pictures in this channel but I can confirm the google images search is not bad
ye its locked to most ppl hdjfjg
Omg
send link
this anime is still relevant???
Ahhh
/manga
If he looks like this imma cry
fhdjfjfhd AAAAAAA
OMG THIS MANGA
what kind of name is that fhfjgk
wait i take it back this is getting offtopic
@ssg plz dont make Sisy an anime boy thnx
thats my fault
hfjfnvngmg
Just watched the review that got posted a few minutes ago and it raised a point I hadn't conciously considered:
I didn't know the fortified enemies couldn't have their animations interupted, but thinking back, it's true
I think certain high power moves like charge spear can, but yeah it's a big deal on why armored is so strong, can't just stunlock them with attacks
That simple design decesisson kinda makes the sword worse than it should be and strongly disensenti
...discourages getting up close
this game kinda plays like a hybrid of the two modes in Transistor
positioning positioning
the dash mechanic lets you kinda plan moves slightly ahead
but it's still realtime
Can anyone think of an alternative to their attacks being non-interuptable that would still make fortified foes a credible threat, rather than just hit spunges, without strongly discouraging the player from ever getting up close and personal?
they should just be higher tier
the jump in difficulty on unarmoured vs armoured is quite steep
maybe make armour to health ratio 1 : 0.5 for starters
Armored enemies are fine
Shooting at them from afar is low risk and time consuming but dodging a mob of them gets really easy once you know attack patterns
Yeah unless you have to get in the middle to get that blue brimstone
@spring cipher - Them being dificult isn't really the issue, they're very easy to handle at range, but that discourages players from ever picking a melee focused weapon or ability
Ive had no trouble with them using melee weapons though, they arent too unique nor fun tl fight but they most certainly arent hard either
It's not a matter of dificaulty, it's about making sure both ranged and melee play styles are equilly viable
You might not find it that hard but the vast majority of players will realise, after a while, that the best way to deal with them is from affar and stop using the sword as often
one weapon shouldn't be so obviously better than the others
I agree thats why Poseidon is so fun you just boop your trouble away
Well i mean they are both viable imo, the sword has its uses and with the right boons it does its job perfectly well. Yes armored targets are easily dealt with by kiting them for enternity, but this is applicable to all the weapons, it really comes down to boons as opposed to the actual weapon
Armoured louts are my mortal enemy
Amored louts are the big annoying
I lose an embarrassing amount of health to them
But side dodges are 
I think everyone loses a bit too much health to louts than theyd like to admit
Especialy when they're all placed in opposite corners and time their attacks differently
My embarrassing dmg is when I start charging a weapon after accidentally dashing into lava
Hey guys, do you know when the 3rd floor will be playable?
Hahaha!!, aww man, sorry, that sucks~
I don't like weapons that charge but I've done similar things
by floor i mean 3rd world or 3rd area 😅
alright
*in
in 20-ish days, when the next major update comes?
,yes
any idea what that will contain?
because the frustration when you have a god damn strong build, you beat the 2nd boss
and then die with a dev message " You've finished all the available content at this moment, thank u"
damn it
All good things come to an end
my life is bad so I have a chance to immortality then
Join the "now we intentionally make the game harder than it has to be to have fun" -club
sorry
Dw bout it
@fluid root i'd have been happier with a boss you cant defeat or an endless horde mode
like an endless wave room that will eventually defeat you
as a sorry icant conitue for now
nah bro, i play for the story, i love greek mythology and i already want to know the end of this game
Endless horde mode is a suggestion in #hades-feedback try to up vote it if you want it
endless shouldnt be the end of the game - just a better way to temperoarly seal of the unfinished game part
claim that your trying to find the next passage and cant
then when they add new content youve found the passage
and now your problem is part of the story
😉
imo the current solution works kinda well, but it's a bit evil 😄
that was what I thought as well
for me the most intresting aspect
i tried all weapons hated them except the sword & spear
XD
playing with no goal in a rogue like is kinda sad for me
I'll do anything to hear the narrator 
Really?
so you hated all except half of them rofl
Yeah i love all the weapons vesides the sheild
I don't like the bow
Sheild zzz
the bow is bae
The bow is broke af
bow is kinda cool
with 3 shots and Ares bonus on charged strike
That piercing buff
do ares and tripple shot results in ares dmg x3?
bow is bad
unless you upgrade the speed shot option i say
everywhere
i had a run with 140 ares mark dmgs artemis dash for crits
i was a truck
and 3 bow shots
Bow is just too hit and run. Proceds to have a shield run where I just run and throw the shield in hopes it comes back
Lmfao
what do you think about artemis dash btw? feels too OP with a large damage boost to me 🤔 especially with spear spin attack
Ehh its fine other dashes just need to get gooder
artemis dash is ok

but its personnal i think
other dashes were OP before patch
Artemis' dash has always been the best dash.
I memeber when aphro dashes were dealing like 500 a pop
you could just kill everyone with dash
ho
and they caused less dmg on you
The days of bad damage calculation
Thing is, you could also have stacked Aphrodite attack with the arty dash + other Aphro boons to even greater effect
you still have a combo i tried a little
Anyone know if you ever find the shade of Achilies' boyfriend Patroclus so they can be together again, happy forever and ever?
Speaking of which, I'm now back at a real computer
Time to update the gosh darn wiki
is Aphodrite dash + when you hit ennemis with weak you deal x% more dmgs, and when ennemies die they apply weak on other
kinda fun
perma reduction dmgs taken and you deal more
Yes but before patches the damage calculation was poor so you could hit ridiculous numbers
So it was the best dash
Aphro cast would be cool if she didnt only have one cast boon
Artemises dash gives the most potential for tier 1 upgrade
Aphro cast is short ranged, felt worst to me 🤔
Got me an epic aphro
Its pretty good
But
Once you upgrade it you cant take it any further
Its just stuck in t1 limbo
Has anyone tried the arthemis cast build with multiple shots and how did it go?
I did and it was super cool
It used to be REALLY powerful. Haven't tried it since it was nerf'd, though
Artemis cast build is really good in rooms but not great against bosses
Whenever I tried to get it I don't get the right upgrades
what are those Dusa-s on the mod team? 🤔
But I did get the Zeus special upgrade + bow more shots upgrade. All I can say is that it is blinding
@tepid wedge we're just having a dusa day
nice
What's next bouldy day? 
for me every day is bouldy day
same for sisyphus
Waits patiently for Dionysus day

Anyway, I'm tired have some ambrosia on me 
And goodnight to anyone who might be having a night.
Hell is really wierd with its time
Good night, or day, whatever
out of curiosity, does anyone know why each song on the OST is a single on spotify? I assume it's because of some weird limitation like "you can't add songs to an album" or something, but I was wondering if I missed something about it
probably cause it's not a full album release
but i'd like a playlist at least ;-;
yeah but spotify :/
<3 Downloading Hades, excited
Thanks for reporting a game freeze! The most common solution to this issue can be found in #hades-tech-fixes-old
when I try to play with a controller the game sceen will freeze
Just played the easiest and least fun run so far. Sword, Daed hammer upgrade to 200% special damage/range, got Athena epic special to level 7, over 300%. No movement required, just spammed Y. Beat 2 of the "survive for 1 minute" rooms by killing everything as it spawned, and all of the infernal troves I came across- clearing them faster than I had ever before. Only lost one life to hydra.
I see a potential for hades coming to Nintendo switch
I’d like that to happen for sure
has anyone had the issue where blue brimstones get stuck in the wall in asphodel?
i was using the shield and my melee attacks weren't working at all
I've had it happen with both crystal enemies, I think even the mages once or twice.
I don'e remember seeing it on the google doc (in hades-info) but only went through it once
kk i'll report it next time!
Is there a location to find crash files? had one earlier but had no idea where to look for one
Hi? I guess...
Anyway, for now, I just wanted to report a typo ("distate" instead of "distaste" in 3rd part of bow description), but I'm new to Discord, and #hades-feedback seemed the right place but locked for me.
read the pinned messages to get info on how to post in there
(the pinned messages in feedback, that is.....)
Hi there! What is "designed" number of attempts to escape, before defeating the game now?
I don’t think there is one, it entirely depends on your skill with the game
I'm sure there is one 😃 Because "game design", you know 😃
some people beat it with very few attempts on the first day it was out, but I personally still can’t beat it without relying on broken upgrades at around 60 attempts
Broken upgrades?)
like Life Drinker which healed you every 3rd sword attack and Sweet Surrender which was bugged and applied more damage than it should have
both were way too powerful before being fixed/taken out
anyway, I really don’t think there’s a designed number of escapes that the game was made with in mind and pushes you towards. You could finish it in 10 or 100 attempts
Didn't even saw that upgrades XD
well, you need way more than a thousand to unlock all lore. so the game was made with at least about 200 in mind
What type of font use the game?
@neat musk most proper build would be way too easy with 7 upgrade 🤷
Quick question, does the game support 144hz? Or any frame rate above 60?
@hexed smelt Thanks, I definitely wouldn't have found that for a long time without the guidance! A pin on the channel, huh. Might be obvious for an experienced Discord user though.
Ty @pure talon
Question: I don't have a controller, just mouse and keyboard. Will this effect my experience or hinder gameplay? <@&456908176877551658>
aiming is easier with mouse and keyboard, moving is harder
so I would say sum gameplay is the same 😄
👍
@grave vault FYI a lot of important info is written on top of the screen next to the channel name (on PC) or above the memberlist (on phone) 😉
thank you for recommending this game, it's fun
Hey guys, No chance of another patch note coming out these next few weeks? If not then I'll probably wait until the next big update and focus my attention on something else.
@grave vault and also everyone else, please don't use the feedback channel for reporting bugs and typos!
Use the game's F10 bug reporter!
Yes patches are finished until January! Morgan mentions this in the #hades-patch-notes channel
Good to know then! I might have missed that particular little note....My bad.
You’re good!
its in #announcements too 😅
Announcements is a choice channel to keep up with, they’re usually pretty good about keeping posts short, sweet, and relevant ahaha
Welp I've already done everything in the game so far...Besides maxing out God's pride and the uhhh other one, The name slipped my mind.
olympian favor?
YES! That one.
i think i have a couple of ambrosia bottles to give to sisyphus
but after that all i have left is maxing out those two and filling out the codex
Bless sis, I wish I could just give him all my ambrosia in 1 go
surprise patch tomorrow that changes hades' color scheme to match santa's
AAAAAAAAAAA
supergiants asleep you have to mod this yourself
ho ho ho.....hum. i am bored with you, boy
YES
Cerb as rudolf
and meg
but 3
[ASMR] Megaera chases after you in an elf outfit and it does the little dumb bell noises
its ok belgo none of us have actually figured out how to mod sprites
belgo i am so sad that i’m at the bus stop right now because otherwise
YOU GOTTA HEAR HER COMING
the video is just footsteps, jingling, and the occasional battle quote
"RUN YOU FOOL" jinglejinglejinglejingle
she’s got a candy cane striped whip
the whip has those light strings wrapped around it
aaaa
utter chaos when zag wears clown shoes too and it honks every time he takes a step
i mean, hades, obviously
no hes santa
he's too big to be the grinch
ares
he’s not jolly enough to be santa
oh my god.
NO NOT HIM
ares wants to be santa so bad
uncomfortably hot grinch
Zag is Santa cause he’s always giving everyone gifts
what about skelly
"did you fill my stocking with blood" "yes :))"
REINSKELETON
FLYING HADES CART ACROSS THE SKY
unless you wanna make hades super skinny
jack skellyington
SKINNY HADES
NO
god nerfed me by not giving me art skills

nerf god back by learning to draw
i get discouraged too easily :/
I just pictured Zeus and Poseidon as heat miser and snow miser cursed image
as
whomst
U know
i really dont
i thought i knew the basic christmas cast......santa elves reindeer grinch the three ghosts OH AND JESUS OBV....whomst this
ahhhh
like a tv special?
@tepid wedgea Sure, but most builds even with an upgrade to 7 would require you to at least move/position your character. The only time I needed to move was during hydra and meg, and between fights heh.
oh ok, I see the problem there 😄
I love this channel
People taking it srsly
And santa cosplay
(also a very serious discussion)
just passing through to say im loving the new game, has me hooked the same way transistor did
This has been one of the best games based off of mythology i've ever played. Great character development, you have to be good enough to progress but a lot of that comes with pattern recognition, so this game is learn new stuff die encounter new stuff die keep repeating, this is the perfect style to do a game/anything really because slowly moving forward is how we learn
No Christmas update? 😦
They've been working hard dude let them rest lol
They deserve to take the holidays off and they've been saying for like two weeks that the next major update would be in January
😡
🤷 i don't know what you want me to say, they have a posted update schedule
why are u mad u should be overjoyed that they get to rest their eyes and brains
it will 100% make the rest of the game better also theyre like. people not content robots
Agreed. Let people enjoy some time off
The entire game is our Christmas update bless 🙌
Not sure if this is the most appropriate thread for it, but I just wanted to post up and say that I'm absolutely in love with the game so far! 😃 finished completing it once with each of the different weapons today and had a great time doing it. Was a massive fan of the previous SG titles as well, so it's great to see another top-notch delivery. Can't wait to see where the game goes next 😃
👌 💖
Hope the team are enjoying their break
Was excited to try out Hades, but didn't notice it wasn't out for Mac yet - d'oh!
Let us all enjoy some days off from hades and focus on perhaps other games for the meantime. I know I will. I'll probably do a run or two now and again so I don't get rusty.
@warped pike and Linux, a shame really, but when T'is on steam and if they decide to port it (as they did with all their other games) I'll be sure to play it too.
YYYYEAAAA
See: every single run I do
spam upgrade shield special?
Not really
In fact, Id go as far as to say itll still be worse than your regular attacks
the best shield special build in my experience is to give it curse damage and pile on power poms
gets inadequate in asphodel tho
sweats
I think ferret is feeling attacked 😆
I mean, beating Hydra with shield special is impressive
Youre basically playing a cast-only run without cast upgrades
Give me three months I'll GET to the hydra
Ive got a solution for that
Introducing the newest in long range damage delivery technology
The bow
Oh jeez I hate the bow
Shield special is just bow without damage
Sh sh sh
hades is VERY attractive
We're missing the best part of the shield special: the RICOCHET
Zeus cast upgrade
Who needs ricochet when you have Triple Shot
Most of my successful shield runs are cast builds, stacking damage on primary attack, or attack charge damage reflect builds. Never done one with special.
i got pinged
My b haha
how's that lol
Perfect
👌
Its the beard
can i SHIELD myself with my shield - I tried by holding attack, but don't know if it's not working or I'm failing?
yes, you block incoming attacks when you hold it
cool, so I'm just rubbish, thx a lot!
You just have to be aligned with the attack properly
Nah its actually kinda wonky sometimes after they nerfed it
You block attacks from the front
If you're out of alignment, you'll still get hit
aha, aha, got it
Ground-based attacks, and attacks from the side or behind hit you
You can block melee
ground based like, spikes?
ground based are like spikes
Just not slam attacks
cool, thx
Maybe saying AoE attack would make more sense
soo a slightly "philosophic" question, I purchased a cool early access game in early stages, and it was fun watching it grow
but when it was released "for real", i kinda felt maybeee it would have been better had I waited till full release
here, I just had to buy it, it's supergiant, can't wait for a year
but wonder what's better, wait for a full, polished game, or play it as it develops?
It depends what you want out of the game, I think
it all depends on preference yeah
A big part of playing a game in EA is that you get to be involved with the development of the game to a certain extent
If you buy an EA game just because you want to play that game, then maybe waiting for full release is better
That's my 2 Obols on the topic, anyway
ive never bought an early access game before but im enjoying watching hades grow and evolve, and being able to provide feedback on it and such
you could compare it to watching episodes of a tv show as they release vs binge watching that show
waiting for episodes while they release lets you participate in theories and stuff, and is kinda... more engaging with the fandom
I'm not sure that's entirely an apt description... Maybe more like watching the rehearsals rather than the regular show
hmm, that too
You get to see all the blunders, the outtakes, and the other changes that you wouldn't experience at full release
but even rehearsals dont let you feedback the stuff so eh xD
it's weird with video games
but that just depends on what you enjoy more, format-wise
I don't think the experience would be the same if this weren't a roguelite though
i guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯
i guess being rougelite helps
buying games in Early Access is like preordering but you're less likely to get screwed, usually
Yea I've always been skeptical of early access but this game has both a plan and competent developers
Not to mention it's very polished even in its current state
Will saves be carried over from version to version?
i think so, even at release if people want to enjoy a fresh save they can start another one themselves xD
@sterile peak well hello there cube world 🤔
lmao
they're trying their best to not have a wipe at any stage but sometimes the development might dork out
but so far none of the updates messed up the saves
me before playing : "well one run, let's take the spear then let's go play some other game"
me after slaying hydra twice in a row : "rofl"
I would have given you an Obol for your comment @prisma wind, but alas, there is no Obol icon. There really needs to be an Obol added to the emoticons
I've only bought early access twice: Crypt of the Necrodancer, and this one :3
Why is my mouse so slow in this game
No it's much slower than it is in windows is all
Hmm.
Unsure. 😣
But nah, Meg is bully @slow oriole
I beat her most times, but struggle right after.
I didnt either, untill I watched a video.
but she still have 1/4 life
unchecking fullscreen fixed it
a video ?
So when she dashes to you, just move slightly up or down, bash her, and when she does the bullet hell spam, you can destroy them all, and hit her with spear. Also, when she does the pools on the ground, you can hit her.
But congrats @inner badge, glad you fixed it ♡
and my playstyle
so with the poseidon's power
Oof.
it's really powerful
Yeah.
you can push someone to the other side of the map xD
more powerful with the knock back of the shield
x2
oh, do you know if we can stream the game ?
like if there is some restrictions
I'm unsure, I dont watch Twitch.
just want to be sure that I can before ^^'
the game is in early access, it's why I'm not sure
You can stream the game freely!
that could be added to hades info channel tbh, that streaming is encouraged, even
noooope
just did a word search cuz i was curious and it only says about the music
Huh, it was on there before
x files theme
Kasavin edited it down a week ago or so, he must've cut it out
I'll make a note to ask him to put it back in once we're all off break
sweet!
might have been a reply in one of the channels:p
not sure now:p
oh there is a pinned comment with a faq that does say u are allowed
doesent refer to the self promotion channel tho
hey everyone is there a way to check how many hours i've played Hades? i think i've spent like 3 days playing but im not sure
Not currently, nope
If you're like me, it's probably easier to count how many hours you haven't been playing
Lmfao
hey y'all i got another question
how far can you upgrade God's pride? I'm at like 17% or so and I really want to max it out 😂
I forget which is which, but the +Rare chance goes to +50%, Epic chance maxes at +25%
thank you!
Does anyone know if we will get Hades on other platforms such as ps4, xbox or switch if it ever releases on them for supporting early access? I bought it a few days ago and love the game so
I’ll after early access
I played it from like 3pm to 10pm on thursday without realizing it lol
You should check the FAQ for more information
Yeah, this game is deceptively time consuming!
Cant get past the 2nd boss
I know a lot of people complain that Darkness is quite useless, but I don’t have enough to max out all status, yet. Any idea how to get a lot of them so that I felt it’s useless soon?
@brisk trail go to gameplay channel. Many people can help you beat them
My only complaint is that the only 1% increase for rare and epic upgrades seems to low
But all other stats do help
We haven’t reached endgame, yet. For those veterans, Key, Darkness and Ambrosias are useless
Oooh
Which they will, once we maxed out everything
1% might seem low, but the max is 50% for Rare and 25% for epic on the upgrades
So it all adds up
does anyone know when hades is coming to steam? I refuse to give any money to epic games
Not until out of Early Access, at least a year or more. See #hades-faq
oh, disappointing, but thanks
Sword special can be super op
I had a run which it did like 170
And super long range
So yeah I'm stuck on the same lvl cause I'm not able to kill a mob that is stuck in a wall -_-
what the point of the spear? it just feels like a weaker version of the sword for me
depend on the play style?!
that doesnt make any sense to me
the only advantage i can tell that the spear has is a little extra range
but in a game with dashes that doesnt really matter
was supposed to be going to bed...
@cyan sable Charge your spin attack at a safe distance and then dash towards enemies to release it. Also, consider chatting up the fine folks in #h1-builds-and-combat for more tips on using the weapons to their fullest 
im unsure if you are saying that i should discuss that in the channel you linked
Just saying if you want to get more tips from the community on gameplay that it's the place to do so 😃
ahh alright thank you
wouldnt that just be the same as dashing with the sword and using the aoe slam?
The sword special does half as much damage as a fully charged spear attack and can't backstab
Essentially, yes. But they have different advantages and limitations for both
It also has a lot more ending lag
Will there be any sorta like silly cosmetics for EA buyers?
Hey yo is there a channel for reporting bugs?
@brisk trail F10 in-game
heya all, whats everyones favourite boon so far?
i always avoid the dash or surge upgrades, they feel off to me 😦
Just like going a bow build and hit and run tactics the entire time
Which channel should I use to make a suggestion?
Not a bug report
My controller switched off in the middle of a boss fight, and I got pummeled
That kind of thing really should trigger a game pause
I think I've seen it in some other games
Read the info at the top of #hades-feedback. The steps needed to do so should be pinned.
just bought hades last night and i have to say i absolutely love it! always been a fan of supergiant games and i'm looking foward to seeing how the final product will be.
also i love Dusa more than anything, There NEEDS to be an option to take her with you at the end when you escape, she's too cute to leave behind.
Just picked this up for Christmas, absolutely loving it... quick question while I'm still trying to figure things out
Who is best to give Ambrosia to?
Cerberus, to start with
but don’t worry about it just give it to whoever you want honestly, you’ll get more as you play
Is this the only thing that bumps up characters hearts? I'm assuming the little bag thing on the first icon for most folk = they'll give a gift in return?
I've just finished unlocking the weapons, really digging the shield 😄
yes, it’s the only thing for now that bumps up hearts
and yes, you’re correct about the gifts
Nice thanks, it's all a lot to take on at first
Appreciate the help, and Merry Christmas 
shield is pretty nice if you can pool off combo
dash, hit, hit (hold button), dash back hit, hit
I'm on an awesome run at the minute where my special does +75 damage after a second and my cast does 170 chain lighting... so I can just throw my stuff out a couple times and be done 😂
but it is pretty unsafe and its honestly too much work for just an ok damage
I'm not a big fan of the spear
Gave that a go, and while the charge up AoE is cool, there's just waaaaaaaaaaaaay too many things flying at you constantly to ever get it off safely
what does this icon represent? harder difficulty?
expect armored enemies
sheild feels like the best weapon so far, has good range for when you need space and still deals nice damage upclose
also Dusa is best girl and that is fact
bow and spear is league above those
ah okay, I quite like that it doesn't blatantly spell everything out in terms of icons, you just have to learn it as you go
i will keep stating that until everyone knows it to be fact
@warped light carefull with that, most mods named dusa OpieOP
what's opieOP?
I still haven't successfully opened one of these sealed chests yet, always get my butt handed to me 😂
eh ok
personally i kind of feel like the sealed chests need better rewards
i dunno, i don't feel like around 50 gold on average is worth the potenial health lose
I'm still not a big fan of gold coins
I feel like I always end up getting a shop before I have the money to get anything
I suppose it comes into play more when you git gud and can survive further in
usually there is a shop before best girl
the one item from hyponos also kind of makes gold coins irrelivent
remind me, what's the weird water melon balloon looking one?
since you're gonna start with around 100 every run with it equiped
and there is that shadow essence thing to give you more starting gold
also that one skill you can upgrade where you start with 10 gold or more is seriously useless
i think they should replace that with something else
nah, the hypnos item is way better
The fandom wiki for this game has almost nothing on it
cause with that you start with 200
Is there anywhere to look up stuff for the game?
with the skill you have to invest alot into it in order to start getting alot of gold each run
yea I hope best girl gets some help from her sisters in the full game, starting to feel a bit sorry for her
DID YOU JUST SAY MEG IS BEST GIRL!!! BECAUSE DUSA IS BEST GIRL!!!!!!
what i really hope is the pantheon battle, the battle with most famous heroes, like achilles, herc, ajax etc etc
oh, that'd be really cool
meg best girl
I say this as a dusa
Also https://hades.gamepedia.com/Hades_Wiki @brazen stone
Exactly what I was looking for, I was on the fandom site instead, thanks dusa!
we need to get the real answer from the developers, we need to start a movement!
we need them to state who is best girl! Meg or Dusa!
meg has five limbs, how is there any compedition
limbs are only one factor in being best girl
Who needs limbs when you can hide in the rafters undetected waiting for the perfect time to strike
but you can do that and have limbs
not as good limbs take up space
do we know anything about the one door and whats behind it in the house of ?
Megdusa
meg: someone will die
dusa: of fun!
I enjoy evry single Meg interaction
In Hades house or on a battlefield
She is great XD
Question: what situations do you use Sisyphus to go straight back to the start by giving up all your hearts?
is that a thing?
???
that's.... that's not how sisyphus rooms work?
@shut crest No not yet, private rooms of some sort. Might be unlocked in future updates
im. so so glad. thats not how sisyphus rooms work
(It's always sunny title card) Sisyphus McFreakin Murders Zag

honestly that would be keeping with sisyphus lore and would be funny
uh oh bouldy, looks like we have a guest,
dead
time to violate some xenia,
private rooms of some sort 
he gives you hp lmao
You get stuff from sisyphus.
oh ffs screenshot 😂
you know im really feeling hospital these days, i mean hospitable,
🔪 guest
sisy sandwich
when can we start giving bouldy ambrosia
yes you're misreading 
get on this dev team its what we all want
pour it on ur computer bouldy will know
ok
there, I got the screenshot right this time
That's just telling you how much health you have
its saying if you lose all your hp you die, not that sisyphus takes it all
it is the description of health itself and not what sisyphus does
so is that just a tooltip to do with health in general? to me it read as sacrificing to go back and not lose your gold or something
So you can make an informed decision on which benefit to take
Bit confusing
i think they will add text next to the icons in a future patch
yes it is not clear what you are going to get
OHHHH you read it as "click here to lose it all"
oh noooooooo yeah thats. the opposite
its like a warning: you only have x hp, if you lose it, you lose
It wasn’t Sisyphus’ decision bouldy kills you all on his own
I interpreted it as a weird skip dying and keep your stuff type deal
Out of envy
So you could restart with your boons or whatever
I see now it's just a burito expender 😄
Is there a feedback site anywhere to put that as a comment?
Feedback channel here, yeah
You have to get the early access rank first
Be sure to check the rules too
@brazen stone have to agree, it is a missleading description in Sisyphus menu, went to the same 
in the game currently my favorite thing in the game is dash combos, (like charging up your bow and spear and use the full charge at the end of my dash, great way of staying a little safe and very satisfying to cut corners, but sometimes when i enter a new room i need to dash once before it will let me do it, so standing with the charge i can try to dash but it won't let me.
I'm slightly addicted to the game at the minute
can't wait to see how this develops over time 👌
I like Meg. The soft, competent statements of violence. Besting her for the first time was a rush.
is it just me or is the skull earring (140% more damage under 40% hp) in 99% of the runs the best trinket? feel like this thing is on all the time especially with lvl 3 death defiance
yeah probably
meg lack fury
it suppose to be the most furious creature
yet it feels like she is deidcated fighter with her own strategy
that might be because she only fights zagreus because its her job
and her main attack is a reckless charge which leaves her super exposed, so she doesn't fight that "smart" either
I think she's a pretty mad lady
she's fierce
@supple cloud trinkets for me is usually for the first floor i tend to go a boon trinket aiming for better or specific build and then switch to harpy feather duster after meg, it drops more often than you would think and the heal increases with you max hp (starting at 50=5, 75=8 100=10 125=13, etc.)
@fossil ocean for me the build varies depending on what i get an epic upgrade on.. so if i go zeus boon i might end up with a dash+attack build (chain lightning) or a long-range cast build that wants to kite
and with lvl 3 death defiance you have 60hp reserved and during all of those 60hp + your last <50%hp from your first life you have 140% damage increase
but i agree @fossil ocean .. first floor you don't really need it - once you get the hang of it you barely drop below 40% anyways
so just now was fighting meg, she start running towards me, i ran away, think she wanted to do the whip attack but wasn't in range so i ran around the room and she died from my ares dash
@fossil ocean really? that's odd, because for me she's always impervious when she does that
it was in the final stage of the fight was funny to look at
i can imagine
I like that little pop-up - since the menu covers up your ability to see your health bar, that pop-up lets me decide whether I need to take health from Sisyphus, or whether I can grab something else. :_
maybe this is something for feedback, dunno... but I feel like Artemis should not offer a crit chance for the spear's special attack, because you can get a flat out 100% crit chance for the special from a deadalus hammer
Daedalus don't always spawn, and Artemis only gives 100 on a legendary correct?
i think it's been mentioned before
with the possibility of counting for triple crit values
okay, sorry then for mentioning it again
nah its okay
but yeah the double crits are in the feedback already
just letting ya know so you dont add that again
Wait you double crit when your crit chance is at 200?
nope
that's why it's in feedback xD cuz you technically can go above 100% and it's kinda weird
Ah. As in the game should preclude that Artemis buff showing up if you already have 100% crit chance?
There's been suggestions in both directions
I personally prefer the idea of supercrits, but I play Warframe so that feels natural to me
I like 3x idea. Every crit buff you get is one attack buff you can't get
Or maybe 2.5
i like both solutions but i also like more damage options XD
it just feels more satisfying
yeah, and there are plenty of other options that let you go over +100% damage, it's not like 130% crit chance (30% for double crit) would be op
especially since 50% crit chance ~ 50% more damage, so a super crit would only be logical
yeah, it translates exactly % crit chance = % damage increase (on average)
someone added that in feedback as yellow crits and red crits that'd activate with high enough crit chance %
Is there an algorithm for saying "if you get an attack buff you'll be less likely to get another of the same type?"
I know you can't get 2 dashes
you can only get 1 boon each for Normal, Special, Dash and Cast
of the regular ones at least, Artemis for example has some extra cast buffs that can stack
Daedalus is completely seperate from that as well
Gotcha
does nyx' trinket simply allow you to pass through enemies and that's it? or is there anything that i miss that would make it actually useful
never gave it much thought but i did think it was a two way conversation when his opening a boon
Pretty sure it has to be, since you can do ambrosia gifts
Unless zag is just talking to air and shoving the bottle through the book portal?
nah u just ship them to god's po box xD
okay see i never questioned the ambrosia thing cause i assumed the god's po box is a thing
but i thought the conversations are like... phone calls at least? D:
same
Maybe Artemis has it set to one-way only because she is shy 
Yeah, the way he accepts them sounds like that
she's a sweetie
i love artemis lol
Yeah, Artemis bugged me at first because she seemed too much like a giddy teenager, but then someone pointed out that it's probably just her being bad at people
Yeee
are they adding the other Olympian gods?
like Artemis's brother
just think he could poke fun at her and their dialogue could bounce of each other when you have both boons
like Zeus and Poseidon
frankly i would die for artemis and frequently do but whatever
@supple cloud watch your language please
sorry didn't mean to offend
How do you give feedback, the room seems to be locked
read the pinned messages!
in what, every room? I've read the pinned messages in feedback
the first pinned message in the feedback room tells you exactly how to get permission to post in there
you.... are checking #hades-feedback and not #hades-feedback-closed , right?
Man the game is hard when you play with anything other than a bow 😛
for me the spear is the absolute go-to weapon, love the playstyle
yeah? I've been trying to finish out the codex, which means killing things with everything else. Spear is the second strongest for me.
I've gotten the hydra to 25% with the spear, but no further
I like the shield, I just wish it wasn't ..basically useless against Meg and hydra
I had the shield completed first. I love the weapon, it's just largely ineffective compared to the bow and spear
Which is weird to say since my only Hydra clear was on shield
yes, i have managed to beat the hydra 6 times in a row with spear, i am really bad with everything else though haha
triple shot + ares on hit damage is OP, you can basically clear the whole thing in 10-12 minutes
i've heard multiple people say how amazing triple shot is.. maybe it should be nerfed a bit? 🤔
that would be fair. At point blank it's literally triple damage, and unlike basically every other damage increase it stacks multiplicitively with others, not additively
well you kind of need the right boons and a good number of pom drops
eh, I think any damage increase boon and triple shot will be massive damage when combined with quick temper
Whereas with spear and a couple of crit increases you can consistently do aoe 700+ damage
plus it's nice crowd control on top of that
the aoe explosion on the spear special feels very underwhelming as it makes the spear not go through enemies a lot of times which denies you the backstab damage when you pull it back.. or am I just using it wrong?
I don't ever use the special. Just hold down that attack button and spin on to enemies.
The special is completely underwhelming on the spear tbh, and I just quit a run because my daedelus boon boosted special in 3 different ways. What a waste.
the special can be really good to harass enemies, and the guaranteed backstab deals some decent damage, too. it all depends on the build, but I also only started using the special around 10 runs in with the spear
can deal around 500 damage to armored enemies which is really neat
yeah, the damage can be legit, I find it clunky to use though so I normally don't bother
i agree, but at the same time i think it is the most well-designed special ability in the entire game because it opens up so many possibilities
Spear + pain on hit, crit after dashing + crit damage is basically the highest dps I've been able to find.
such as leaving the spear on the floor, then dashing twice to pull it back through 5 enemies for insane backstab aoe damage
i went for 500% armor damage from daedalus, then crit on special from artemis and then again artemis for increased crit damage
I'll have to try to make better use of the special, that may be why i've only ever beaten the ~game~ hydra with the bow
yes I think a great deal of your success chance is down to experience with a weapon (which shows how great the game design is
yeah, definitely. this is going to be game of the year for me
I've got the hydra with each weapon, I think the sword is the weakest for the runs as it lacks any range. it's fine in Tartarus but once you get to Asphodel the blue brim stones (the shield ones) are a massive pain to get, especially when over lava.
whereas the bow is not so good on the stages but is great in boss rooms
imo
totally agree Wolf.. for me the only way to get the sword work in Asphodel is with knockback on special and then knock everything into the lava
Sword runs are dash runs and damage reduction runs for me
What are you all calling the cut scenes when you enter the game and Hades says something. Like, a few games ago he did a spiel about GREED, but I don't know if it had an effect on the game in some way
I think one of the mods called them rememberances or something
It feels like one of the old Angband notifications when you'd enter a new dungeon level - "There is something special about this level..."
I call it "dad continuing to talk after son has stopped listening"
they're called remembrances, yeah
(that's the official term for 'em, it's in the patch notes and everything ;) )
They're, as far as I can tell, memories of zag's that motivate him or have impacted him strongly and contributed to his decision to leave or to where he is now as a person
oh neat, they're listed in the wikipedia page for the greek underworld... "Rather, the continuation of the existence of the soul in the underworld was considered a remembrance of the fact that the dead person had existed, yet while the soul still existed, it was inactive."
oh sweet, the next level should be the mourning fields
some of them are just, like. Yikes.
yyyyea
and some of them are, really funny
im lookin forward to new rememberances in update
Merry Christmas.
merry christmas to you and all of the discord, especially the mods, who are doing an absolutely wonderful job 😃
Aww thank you! ♡
imagine if you could unlock meg as a playable character
yes man
dude i just killed her and then met her
her artifact is annoying tho, for me currently
cant use it unless i feel am good at the game haha
imho her trinket is by far the best in the entire game
ok so 140 percent damage when below 40 percent health
because when you have death defiance (which gives you multiple lifes) you will be below 40% hp for more than 3/4 of your total hp pool
If you have 3 death defiances unlocked skull earing will be active for a pretty big percent of your effective total health pool
ahh fair ok
(more or less that is, don't pin me on numbers here)
ok so if am at 15 damage per hit, am guessing the skull earing makes it 21 damage per hit. right?
@supple cloud I agree, her trinket is what I run 100% of the time
For base damage, yes. Ideally this number will have a zero after it though with any decent set of boons and upgrades
how do the last two chaos upgrades work? the chance for boons to have rare/epic effects? does that just mean when you get an upgrade it has a higher chance to be rare/epic? do those two upgrades have a max level? and is there any point to upgrading the rare one? or just the epic one?
apparently they max out of 50% for rare and 25% for epic
and epic is twice as good as rare and hence double expensive, so the value gain per shard is equal afaik
Yes, it just increases the chance of them being Rare/Epic instead of Common. +50% and +25% respectively, as Felix said
getting both is worth because +25% on epic will still leave you with a lot of non-epics that could at least be rare
would be really cool if an "epic" boon would be an entirely new one with more unique and run or playstyle-defining, but not necessarily stronger numbers.. right now it's just like a normal boon but twice as good
true, there are legendary boons though that have really unique and powerful effects
allegedly, I've never seen one
Honestly, some of the Legendary boons can feel useless if they don't mesh with your weapon/build. They aren't universally awesome, which is unfortunate
true, that's a lot of things in the game though, I think it's ok
Worst I'd say is Aphrodite
, since by the time you get it the Charm effect is pointless, as you're likely killing everything too fast. Charm should be on a Tier 1 boon imo
When there are more zones in the game that will likely be less of a problem
omg guys speaking of different weapons in the convo that i saw earlier... i want a scythe.
I like the legendaries a lot because they truly make you identify with the god that they are representing (SPOILER START:
like aphrodite's legendary which has a chance to charm foes
SPOILER END)
and I would love if epics had the same kind of meaning but with less overpowered numbers
yeah scythe would be rad
or a whip
it's what we deserve as angsty edgelord from hell
exactly
I have never seen a legendary....
also because scythes are cool
if you want legendaries you really have to stack boons from one god.. so always take boons over any other room and go for god trials and if necessary swap your trinket before act 2
in 32 runs and 4979 enemies killed, and never seen a legendary once
Whip I can see, Scythe I don't like simply because they make terrible weapons from a practical standpoint, but fiction seems to love them as uber-weapons
yeah, I tend to just get one or two boons and roll with it from there, so I haven't seen a legendary
Any new weapons will probably be taken from Greek mythology, though
i pretty much love every fictional scythe cause they're just so aaaahh
well, last run i completed both areas, ran into multiple double boons so i had like 10
they look cool @_@
so quick google says apparently there is in fact greek myths related scythe XD but that'd probably break the rules so ill just say that it could be a thing
Also, does giving ambrosia do anything after the first one?
Feel free to post in #h1-story-discussion if you think it would be spoilery Risu
@halcyon falcon Just more lore and/or character relationship progression/conversation
It does change how the characters interact with you
no i mean server rules >XD it's kinda nsfw scythe
Ooooh, I see
lol @ the wrong person
Ha ha whoops, my bad on the @ 
Yes, sorry 
Np!
last question, does the pool things that cost life to go into put you into the next room or a random one?
random, they are not worth it in my opinion.
Yeah, the dev team knows they need a rework. They even mention it in the first installment of the noclip documentary
I almost never go in them myself, unless for some reason I really don't want any of the rooms offered otherwise
As far as we know it puts you in a random room, barring unskippable ones
there's a documentary?
found it
whelp, guess i'm not playing the game for 40 minutes
thanks 😃
I think going in is nice if the rooms offered are useless(the key one).
It's worth to get some gold or darkness
I hope it hasn't been asked before (don't want to be annoying), but is there an ETA on other platforms to play Hades? currently stuck with just a mac or ps4 and I would love to play it.
it has been asked to death but thank you for the concern 😂 #hades-faq
@scarlet cedar i would assume they would make more uses out of the keys in future updates, maybe something like the ones in spiral knights where the key leads to a mini treasure room
thanks @alpine stratus I really appreciate the answer, I had taken a look thought the info but must have missed it, need to improve on those critical reading skills I guess
ah sure! glad you found it
@timid ferry hope so, can't wait how will this game develop
finger's crosses they allow modding
crossed*
i feel like u can do so many things with differnet abilities joint together
Does anyone know how many maps there are rn? Only got to Asphodel so far
i think asphodel is last one
like when u complete it it ends, i watched one complete run by a guy and there was nothing after asphodel
Aight, thanks man
they always have allowed modding till now!
Megaera? More like Tsundaera
...not that 'youre not allowed to mod anymore', but 'i dont see them stopping'
modding is extremely allowed, as long as you're not passing off a modded game as a base game or trying to make money off a mod
i'd imagine
How did someone see their total kills stat earlier on? I'm curious myself
P.S - hope you've all had a nice Christmas 😃
power move: create an entirely new game in pyre, new characters art story etc etc, and it becomes the new hit indie game of the season, (DONT ACTUALLY DO THIS)
you could. but you should not.
hey remember when i tried to remove deluge entirely
YES
that was the night before this server was born
@autumn pine Aphrodites design is based on the famous and iconic art piece of her emerging from a shell in the sea
Its not just cuz shes the love goddess
hey yeah
thats the february patch (valentines day)
(side note im joke. im joke! i would rather aphrodite have clothes than hades be The Nude Game)
yes we're not doing that
but.
the point stands
every greek god and hero has been depicted nude in some famous classical work of art or another
some of them greek, some of them not
i feel like the most iconic works for a lot of gods and heroes are nudes but i can do a google search if this is a hill we want to die on
honestly I'd be fine with it if it was across the board- but there's also a point that in the supergiant discord, NSFW discussions (and even swears, if I'm correct? Don't wanna bait Styxbot to find out) are mostly pretty well-restricted, wouldn't this also be them breaking their own rule by putting this NSFW content in their own game?
Greek garb = Toga...ya...nudity was often
Achilles is typically depicted with shirt plate skirt and cuirass
hold up, i think i gotta read up
Zeus usually has his robe
i just bought hades on the epic store even though i cant play it on my mac hopefully mac support comes soon

