#h1-discussion | Supergiant Games | Page 578

spring cipher Dec 14, 2018, 2:33 AM

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aka

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any boon now

uncut umbra Dec 14, 2018, 2:34 AM

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yeah...

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but that's the other issue

spring cipher Dec 14, 2018, 2:34 AM

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they removed surges

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now all the dashes are good

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its EZ clap

uncut umbra Dec 14, 2018, 2:34 AM

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The main strike attack is buffed with boons... but that simultaneously buffs the charge attack

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The shield has 3 completely viable attacks. You could use any one of them for an entire run without touching the other two, fairly viably.

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that's basically 1 too many.

fiery pebble Dec 14, 2018, 2:36 AM

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I mean, the attack and charge are basically one and the same

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Spear also has the attack and charge

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And uh, I tried

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You cant succeed using only shield special

white charm Dec 14, 2018, 2:36 AM

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So i just used the shield and I got the ares boon (the one that affects your special) and when and I used it, whenever the shield got back the curse would affect me, basically just killing me

fiery pebble Dec 14, 2018, 2:36 AM

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Youll have trouble reaching the Hydra if you dont have a dodge boon or cast boon

uncut umbra Dec 14, 2018, 2:37 AM

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Yeah @white charm
🧙 MorganToday at 6:01 PM
Known Issues

Shield throw can knock you back and/or damage you!
Resolutions > 1080p are intentionally scaling down in Fullscreen

white charm Dec 14, 2018, 2:37 AM

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Ohh i see, ty

uncut umbra Dec 14, 2018, 2:38 AM

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true UN, but I didn't mean never use cast or dodge

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just avoid using the other two attacks.

rough ivy Dec 14, 2018, 2:38 AM

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Who drew the character art for hades anyway

uncut umbra Dec 14, 2018, 2:38 AM

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I think the Shield having 3 attacks AND a block function is excessive

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for a primarily defensive weapon

fiery pebble Dec 14, 2018, 2:38 AM

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I mean the difference is

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You can win with spear using just the special

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No dodge, no cast

uncut umbra Dec 14, 2018, 2:39 AM

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I already argued they should buff the special

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and remove the chargedash

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sorry for the confusion

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I love the shield and all, but I'll be convincing myself to try the other weapons while it's this op

karmic basalt Dec 14, 2018, 2:40 AM

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re art it should be Jen zee?

fiery pebble Dec 14, 2018, 2:40 AM

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I mean, if it makes you feel any better, its not op anymore

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Spear and bow are both better

uncut umbra Dec 14, 2018, 2:41 AM

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hmmm. Maybe I'm underestimating the difficulty pacing of the full release? Anyway, those were my two cents. It's weird, I know, to be advocating for nerfs to my favorite weapon.

fiery pebble Dec 14, 2018, 2:42 AM

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The thing is, all weapons have options

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Well, except the bow I guess, that just has raw damage

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Shield starts out very strong, but it doesnt scale as hard as Spear or bow do

sterile peak Dec 14, 2018, 2:43 AM

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The Spear is my favorite weapon

cerulean vigil Dec 14, 2018, 2:43 AM

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same

sterile peak Dec 14, 2018, 2:43 AM

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Only one I've beaten hydra with so far, I built it for massive crits with an Epic artemis dash and aphrodite's damage buff

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was doing over 100 damage per hit

fiery pebble Dec 14, 2018, 2:44 AM

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I like the spear too

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Especially with a special build

dark wasp Dec 14, 2018, 2:44 AM

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#h1-builds-and-combat ?

uncut umbra Dec 14, 2018, 2:45 AM

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no I posted it in Feedback

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thanks guys for the convo tho

marble sphinx Dec 14, 2018, 3:03 AM

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zeus' legendary is crazy if you combine it with the extra bounce boon

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and ofc another boon that spawns lightning bolts to begin with

devout plinth Dec 14, 2018, 3:05 AM

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The hydra was probably done by a 3D modeler not Jen but I’m not sure about that (@ above)

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 3:07 AM

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@rough ivy character portrait art is by Jen Zee for all supergiant games

jovial blade Dec 14, 2018, 3:08 AM

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is hades multiplayer

alpine stratus Dec 14, 2018, 3:09 AM

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nope

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 3:11 AM

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It is if you consider bug reporting on here as currently part of the extended experience of the game 😉

true quail Dec 14, 2018, 3:15 AM

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i just beat the hydra using the new bow. it felt great. piercing does so much better now

nova kestrel Dec 14, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Yes embrace the bow

true quail Dec 14, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Orpheus now is singing that is great.

nova kestrel Dec 14, 2018, 3:17 AM

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Praise the bow

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dusa

solar coral Dec 14, 2018, 3:28 AM

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Damn that hydra, how the hell do you beat that thing

grizzled fjord Dec 14, 2018, 3:30 AM

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He seems less hard than he was before

rough ivy Dec 14, 2018, 3:33 AM

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O thanks

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 3:35 AM

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I found getting some upgrades for my Cast helped alot with the hydra fight.

burnt dirge Dec 14, 2018, 3:36 AM

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I won my first run with a crit spin build on the spear. Each spin did 1000 damage to a head and one shot them. I nearly 2 phased the boss fight but I missed one spin

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to Hydra

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 3:37 AM

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The spear is so good. That spin is damn near broken.

burnt dirge Dec 14, 2018, 3:37 AM

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the fact you can dash spin is so nuts

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 3:37 AM

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yep once I learned you could dash spin it changed everything

burnt dirge Dec 14, 2018, 3:38 AM

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and the dash crit abilities stack with it

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 3:38 AM

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It’s my favourite thing about the spears would be sad to see it go

burnt dirge Dec 14, 2018, 3:38 AM

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same

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 3:38 AM

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I’d take a damage reduction on it over it being replaced

burnt dirge Dec 14, 2018, 3:38 AM

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I would stop using spear if it went away completely. Probably needs some balancing but its so fun

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 3:38 AM

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and with the back stab perk you dash behind them, spin and win.

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It also works with the artemis boon that makes your attacks crit after dashing.

burnt dirge Dec 14, 2018, 3:40 AM

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yep

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that dash crit is nuts

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thats how i was one shotting the heds

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heads*

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 3:41 AM

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I've cleared a couple runs using artemis true shot cast buffed up. You can kill the heads with 2-4 shots even quicker if you buy the item that increases shot dam by 60%

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 3:45 AM

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also @marble sphinx i hope your name is a Sunn O))) reference

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 3:47 AM

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Was there any update on when the soundtrack might be released for Hades?

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I know they put it on yt, but I want flac versions to add to my supergiant collection

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 3:49 AM

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This new update is amazing

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Thank you supergiant devs

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 3:49 AM

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I haven't been able to play it yet, I read over the patch notes though elaFeels

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I have a final at 9am tomorrow

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Is the sword usable now?

true quail Dec 14, 2018, 3:50 AM

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i feel like the game is too easy now. i am beating the hydra in a row. oo well at least i will get to see the hydra lore

woeful trench Dec 14, 2018, 3:50 AM

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My cpu runs at 2.3GHz, i5-6200U.. I really wanna buy this, do you guys think'll run smooth?

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 3:50 AM

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@radiant flame I never had any problem with sword runs, it's better now though

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@woeful trench What GPU do you have?

woeful trench Dec 14, 2018, 3:51 AM

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Nvidia 940MX, 2GB

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 3:51 AM

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good to hear, I just found the spear and bow had much more versatility in their kit, sword just got a bit boring to me

neat musk Dec 14, 2018, 3:53 AM

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I just had the easiest hydra kill I have had so far- Sword with single chop and aphrodite focused

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 3:53 AM

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I had a spear run yesterday where I didn't even let the hydra get to second phase

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spear was dealing 1250 per spin

neat musk Dec 14, 2018, 3:54 AM

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I haven't had a spec where I did more than 500 damage per attack

true quail Dec 14, 2018, 3:54 AM

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i hope they add some sort of difficulty increase to the game, like a god curse or something of the sort. like another set of trinkets that you get by pissing off the gods when you pick one over another. that will give like 10-20% darkness increase and buff enemy or debuff you.

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 3:54 AM

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I also had a bow build where I was doing 850/shot with the quick shot upgrade

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was quite fun

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but I always go crit/glass cannon builds

wraith jasper Dec 14, 2018, 3:55 AM

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Man this updates changes are so goooood

cedar hollow Dec 14, 2018, 3:55 AM

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I can't wait to see what kind of damage we'll see when more levels open up

wraith jasper Dec 14, 2018, 3:55 AM

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Asphodel is so much more enjoyable now

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 3:55 AM

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I was hoping for something similar when I found the keepsakes, since the first one I got was achilles, I thought they would all be like that @true quail

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some positive/negative similar to bastion/transistor

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 3:56 AM

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Oh and btw people, this is what you asked for, if you think the game is to easy. I said time and time again that asking for buffs never ends well.
Things was well balanced, if anything they should've made nerfs, not buffs 😄

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 3:57 AM

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who was asking for buffs elaS

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 3:57 AM

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BUUUUUFFFFFSS.

cedar hollow Dec 14, 2018, 3:57 AM

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Sword needed a buff.

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 3:57 AM

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All I wanted was the shield to get nerfed

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 3:57 AM

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Yeah, sword was kinda underwhelming.

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 3:57 AM

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and the sword to get some other action/ability

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Like a charge on the sword or something

true quail Dec 14, 2018, 3:58 AM

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i wanted shield to be fixed. been gone for 5 seconds running around was no fun

cedar hollow Dec 14, 2018, 3:58 AM

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Zelda spin

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 3:58 AM

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but the Y is already an AOE

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I was thinking something like the chop

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but that is an upgrade already

cedar hollow Dec 14, 2018, 3:59 AM

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Oh a charge chop does sound kinda cool

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 3:59 AM

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charge to deal damage to a single enemy would give some more variety to the kit

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kinda like a reverse spear

cerulean vigil Dec 14, 2018, 4:06 AM

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you have been tasked with designing the next weapon to be included in Hades

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what weapon do you make and what is its special, does it have a hold attack, etc

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like, i think it'd be cool to have a scythe with inherent AOE sweeping damage

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 4:06 AM

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Hammer, definitely

cerulean vigil Dec 14, 2018, 4:07 AM

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Bastion Hammer 👀

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for 100 keys you get the Transistor sword lol

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 4:07 AM

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hammer, with a long swing animation, hold attack is an aoe slam

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 4:07 AM

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At feedback-section people wanted buffs. Now the game is broken and too easy 😄 So now they have to rebalance the game.
I might get a lot of hate now but I'll say it for future references, game developers know what they are doing - gamers are not. They should complete the game, then balance things and we'll see if it's too hard.
For comparison, Darkest Dungeon didn't become the most beloved roguelike because they made things easy for everyone. They had a vision of difficulty and built upon it.

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 4:08 AM

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I think the thing is that this is their first roguelite, and there is no real understanding of how this game will go further

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 4:08 AM

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darkest dungeon isnt the most beloved roguelike haha

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 4:08 AM

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if this is the first 2 levels out of 10, it might make sense to make it easier

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 4:08 AM

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and they didnt change it that much tbh

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it'll still be very hard for some, including people I know irl who are playing

cerulean vigil Dec 14, 2018, 4:09 AM

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if theres 10 imma cry lol

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 4:09 AM

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idk its good to make the game as enjoyable as possible for as many ppl possible

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 4:09 AM

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10 would be ideal haha

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I love long rouguelikes

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 4:09 AM

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I would disagree with that sport

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people don't play roguelites for hours because they win every run

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you want some difficulty

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 4:09 AM

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did u win every run at start?

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 4:10 AM

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yeah it needs to be very hard imo

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so far its been decently hard I think, only not for some with insanely good luck/skills

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 4:10 AM

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when new content comes its gonna get harder again

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 4:10 AM

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^^

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I agree

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 4:10 AM

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its still hard when rng is not on your side

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 4:10 AM

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but making it easier so that everyone can finish it is kind of a sad thought to be honest

devout plinth Dec 14, 2018, 4:11 AM

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Agreed, usually longer ones have save points in between levels tho and idk if hades does

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 4:11 AM

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or u play with a weap your not comfortable with

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 4:11 AM

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or it can be extremely easy like some of my runs

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 4:11 AM

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well not everyone is the same skill lvl

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 4:11 AM

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my one spear run felt like when a binding of isaac run becomes broken

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 4:11 AM

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for me asphodel is still hard

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 4:12 AM

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Did they change the charge on the bloodless?

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I found their tracking to be a pain

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 4:12 AM

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yes

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 4:12 AM

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binding of isaac broken runs are great though

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 4:12 AM

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they flank better

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its in the patch notes

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 4:12 AM

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Do they still 180 snap?

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 4:12 AM

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doesent say

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 4:12 AM

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😦

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@brisk trail I had a spear run with 1250 damage per max spin

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with decreased spin charge

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 4:13 AM

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Bloodless-type foes more effective at flanking the player

radiant flame Dec 14, 2018, 4:13 AM

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It was the easiest win I have got so far

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I was wondering if anyone has played the new patch

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I was getting quite annoyed with them charging and 180 tracking and hitting me, especially in large groups

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 4:29 AM

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@brisk trail Yes it is.

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If you're thinking about Binding of isaac, thats not a roguelike, thats a roguelite.

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 4:38 AM

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Bloodless was annoying with their instant reaction before.

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Now? Just stay the f away from them xD

true quail Dec 14, 2018, 4:41 AM

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somehow i apply Ares curse on my self and one shot my self to death

cerulean vigil Dec 14, 2018, 4:41 AM

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was it with shield

true quail Dec 14, 2018, 4:41 AM

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yes

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shield throw

cerulean vigil Dec 14, 2018, 4:42 AM

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yeah its a known bug rn

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stay away from that boon with shield for now

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 4:43 AM

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I was wondering if the boon affected Zagreus' inability to catch his shield

nova kestrel Dec 14, 2018, 4:58 AM

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i'd just like to give my thanks to whoever decided to give bow a natural pierce
BIG THANKS it has made me a very happy and successful fruit KiwiBlush

coral thistle Dec 14, 2018, 5:08 AM

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omg i might be late

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but the new ares art is GORGEOUS

boreal pulsar Dec 14, 2018, 5:08 AM

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Just beat the fury for the first time, so proud of self

coral thistle Dec 14, 2018, 5:09 AM

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congrats!

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https://i.imgur.com/bEawuaO.jpg

Imgur

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^if peeps haven't seen it yet

boreal pulsar Dec 14, 2018, 5:09 AM

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I saw that as first boon of the day, he looks so good

coral thistle Dec 14, 2018, 5:10 AM

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i love that white strip

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and him fingering the blade is A++++

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 5:10 AM

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Lol, i did not realize how strong life drinker is.

coral thistle Dec 14, 2018, 5:11 AM

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oh i missed tthose patch notes dnag that's a lot

olive jungle Dec 14, 2018, 5:12 AM

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yeah we had a hella patch this time

small trench Dec 14, 2018, 5:12 AM

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yeah! i was surprised. i saw a tweet from greg about the Ares art update and thought that was going to be it but then saw all of those changes to just about everything.

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it was a great update 👌

olive jungle Dec 14, 2018, 5:13 AM

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gkdfjhgfd silicio i love your reaccs

cedar hollow Dec 14, 2018, 5:15 AM

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lol shield special is broke.

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i knew it damaged you with ares's boon, but didnt know it did the same with the other gods boons

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 5:16 AM

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.-.

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Damn its my bday night and I get to play new hades update

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Tight

cedar hollow Dec 14, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Happy Birthday!

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Happy Birthday, Buzzed. uwu

boreal pulsar Dec 14, 2018, 5:17 AM

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AAAAND just lost my best run to the game screen freezing on the store...

small trench Dec 14, 2018, 5:17 AM

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ive still yet to mess with the shield enough yet. i used it for a bit but went back to trying the bow. i loved tossing it around with the special

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happy birthday!

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 5:17 AM

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Grats with Level Up.

echo goblet Dec 14, 2018, 5:18 AM

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after you get to your room and the hall your supposed to leave, how do you leave that weapon room?

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Window.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 5:18 AM

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Oh wow thanks guys ur too kind :^)

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 5:19 AM

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@echo goblet Purple glowing exit to the bottom right.

boreal pulsar Dec 14, 2018, 5:19 AM

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Finally beat the stupid Fury and the game bugs oWo

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le sigh

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 5:20 AM

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Nice!

echo goblet Dec 14, 2018, 5:20 AM

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thank you lol

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 5:20 AM

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@boreal pulsar do you have a gift?

boreal pulsar Dec 14, 2018, 5:20 AM

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No

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 5:21 AM

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If you can, get one

boreal pulsar Dec 14, 2018, 5:21 AM

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Just had Aphrodite get pissed at me for choosing posidon, was using a store after the fight and game screen froze

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Could still hear noise, just... screen didnt move

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le sigh

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Riperino

boreal pulsar Dec 14, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Wait are girft those things that the people give you for ambrose?

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Yeah

boreal pulsar Dec 14, 2018, 5:22 AM

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if so then ya i have a few

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 5:22 AM

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Ok

boreal pulsar Dec 14, 2018, 5:22 AM

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using the one that gives healing items a chance to spawn in pots since i am still terribad at this game

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 5:23 AM

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Assuming the game is nice and lets you continue the run you'll want one for when you get back

boreal pulsar Dec 14, 2018, 5:24 AM

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THE RUN LIVES

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 5:24 AM

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YAY!!!!

boreal pulsar Dec 14, 2018, 5:25 AM

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AND i accidentally step in lava losing the 5 health i had left.

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Lol

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Meh

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Still beat the bird

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I'll take it

red glade Dec 14, 2018, 5:27 AM

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Anyone feel that

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Asphodel is super clutteredf

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and you just need to spam dodge

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 5:27 AM

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Asphodel has no Dusa to clean all this clutter.

red glade Dec 14, 2018, 5:28 AM

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Asphodel doesn't deserve dusa

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 5:28 AM

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Your Waifu is maid tier.

red glade Dec 14, 2018, 5:28 AM

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you mean *mad tier

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 5:29 AM

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No, Meg is Mad tier.

boreal pulsar Dec 14, 2018, 5:29 AM

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Why does the voice of the Fury sound like Meg for Hercules?

red glade Dec 14, 2018, 5:29 AM

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Dusa > Meg

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 5:30 AM

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Nyx is Mum-tier

nova kestrel Dec 14, 2018, 5:31 AM

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Sisyphus is best boi though

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 5:31 AM

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Artemis is mood-tier

red glade Dec 14, 2018, 5:31 AM

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No, Cerberus is the goodest boi

nova kestrel Dec 14, 2018, 5:31 AM

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Cerberus dissapered for so many of my runs

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 5:32 AM

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Cerberus is in the top 3 goodest boys

small trench Dec 14, 2018, 5:32 AM

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Cerberus is best boy

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 5:32 AM

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Correction

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Cerberus is the top 3 goodest boys

small trench Dec 14, 2018, 5:32 AM

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Yes!

marble sphinx Dec 14, 2018, 5:38 AM

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@brisk trail it is! and a dark souls ref

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 5:41 AM

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PHEW.

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It felt kinda harder to do second boss after the patch.

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Might be the case because i had meele build for once xD

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 5:41 AM

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Well done!

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 5:42 AM

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But really, i was healing from adds, not taking damage due to life-drinker.

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I've lost 2 death defiances on the last phase.

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And only due to my own drowsyness xD

boreal pulsar Dec 14, 2018, 5:47 AM

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Ok, spear is quickly becoming my fav weapon

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 5:48 AM

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I love charge attack + Artemis dash.

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http://praan.ru/img/4bdc30.png

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Seems legit...

boreal pulsar Dec 14, 2018, 5:50 AM

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lol

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 5:50 AM

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Zagreus just casually killing the hydra five times with his bare fists

coral thistle Dec 14, 2018, 5:51 AM

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god im so bad at the boss fight

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so goddamn close

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mistimed a dash

signal spoke Dec 14, 2018, 5:51 AM

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SAME

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im horrid

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i havent had this much trouble with a boss in a while

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 5:52 AM

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http://praan.ru/img/7c0806.png

signal spoke Dec 14, 2018, 5:52 AM

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altho I havent played on the new patch today

coral thistle Dec 14, 2018, 5:52 AM

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ill beat the first boss some day.... damn you

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might swap up weapons a bit

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 5:52 AM

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Meg is the Babe.

coral thistle Dec 14, 2018, 5:52 AM

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ive been using the shield bc having the defense makes it feel a bit more forgiving to time a dash into her dash

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 5:53 AM

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Just fyi, her dash is deflectable.

olive jungle Dec 14, 2018, 5:53 AM

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I started a new file to see how progression feels from scratch

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The sword is way less useless now

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I got all the way to the bomber twins on my first escape

tender latch Dec 14, 2018, 5:54 AM

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LMAO

coral thistle Dec 14, 2018, 5:54 AM

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yeah i just have trouble timing the athena dash sometimes

tender latch Dec 14, 2018, 5:54 AM

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the new ares is daddy tier, its too bad i almost never take his boons

spice cliff Dec 14, 2018, 5:54 AM

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I have time for like 1 run before I go to bed

coral thistle Dec 14, 2018, 5:54 AM

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ugh, sleep

spice cliff Dec 14, 2018, 5:54 AM

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I really want to try out the new hotfix

coral thistle Dec 14, 2018, 5:54 AM

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i should probably do that...

spice cliff Dec 14, 2018, 5:55 AM

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it's annoying, isn't it?

coral thistle Dec 14, 2018, 5:55 AM

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yeah

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stupid flesh sack

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i might try bow out my next run tomorrow

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if i even have time >.>

spice cliff Dec 14, 2018, 6:00 AM

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btw what was the cerberus keepsake exploit?

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:01 AM

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You could restore your health to full after beating first boss, basicly.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:01 AM

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@quiet jackal all modern ones are roguelites, I’m not sure what your point is honestly

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:02 AM

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@brisk trail Turnbased are roguelike, action-packed are lite

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@brisk trail My point is a few hours old, I don't understand your point 😇

true quail Dec 14, 2018, 6:02 AM

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So the shield bug where it applies ares curse on to you is not limited only to ares. Aphrodite as well. also the bug happens when you throw the shield and catch it right away.

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if the shield bounces 2 times u are safe

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:03 AM

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@marble sphinx oh man haha. That’s just a double barrel reference of things I love

spice cliff Dec 14, 2018, 6:03 AM

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oh wow sword is way more viable

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:03 AM

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Turn based isn’t roguelike, roguelikes are like rogue, the game

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Which no modern ones are enough to be called roguelikes with a few exceptions, though the popular term is still roguelike

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Which is fine

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And yeah man I’m hype to get home and try out the new patch

cedar hollow Dec 14, 2018, 6:04 AM

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@true quail it also applies to poseodon as well. Being thrown into a wall is quite fun to watch

spice cliff Dec 14, 2018, 6:04 AM

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oh yeah what's the thing

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berlin interpretation or something

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the one that's all "blee bloo blah real roguelikes use ascii tilesets"

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:06 AM

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Yeah which is why the lite version of the term exists cos elitists were like NO it’s NOT THE SAME

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I’m too far into just calling them all roguelikes though cos that was the term back when Isaac and spelunky first came out

spice cliff Dec 14, 2018, 6:06 AM

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yeah

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honestly with the sort of games I play the procedural generation and (semi-)permadeath are more important than the turn-based or grid layout aspects

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:07 AM

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Same

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:08 AM

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I don't think turn-based or action is really decisive on the say of roguelike/lite.

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:08 AM

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Im pretty sure roguelike became it's own genre.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:08 AM

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Yeah it ain’t t

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Yeah it really did haha

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:09 AM

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Even supergiant said roguelike are turnbased and roguelite are action packed 🤷

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:09 AM

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In all seriousness their opinion doesn’t mean more than other people’s in this instance

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But I don’t really disagree that much haha

spice cliff Dec 14, 2018, 6:10 AM

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okay so the aphrodite special boon on sword is freaking overpowered

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:10 AM

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They follow their own sets of rules now though, like modern roguelikes have more in common with Isaac and spelunky and such than they do rogue

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And draw from the modern examples rather than the old ones

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:10 AM

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Lol, Poseidon's new dash is annoying af with a melee weapon.

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I have upgraded sword's special, range, and i still can't hit enemies i pushed off when i dashed to them.

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:11 AM

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Im still pretty sure roguelike is turnbased and roguelite is actionpacked, that is pretty much set in stone for all devs 😃

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:12 AM

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I'd say that like/lite aspect is decided on how much you loose on death.

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:12 AM

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@drowsy karma I upgraded poseidon's dash and finished the game with it haha, this update made the game a cakewalk. While still fun, it's not difficult

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:12 AM

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That just isn’t it I’m afraid

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The term isn’t set in stone

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And neither of those things have any baring on it

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:13 AM

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I felt like the hydra was weaker, but tougher.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:13 AM

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SG can of course decide what their own game should be called, but they don’t decide the term definition

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:13 AM

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You're just not agreeing for the sake of it at this point @brisk trail
Leds just move on!
puns

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:13 AM

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Sorry language is just important to me

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:14 AM

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Roguelike is a subgenre of role-playing video game characterized by a dungeon crawl through procedurally generated levels, turn-based gameplay, tile-based graphics, and permanent death of the player character.

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Wiki actually states turn-based.

toxic silo Dec 14, 2018, 6:15 AM

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Is there a way to restore lost progress? I lost a run's worth of progress when the hydra crashed my game by summoning an endless stream of enemies

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:15 AM

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It changed in the 90s afaik, Roguelike used to be what Led said. Times change, and this was over 20 years ago

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:16 AM

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Yes

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:16 AM

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While I'd like to discuss it further, #h1-discussion is about the game, not the roguelike genre. I made a comparison between Hades and Darkest Dungeon, might've been a bad move since it spurned an off-topic discussion.
I began arguing how easy the game has become and how much people are giving feedback for it being easy, while before the update the game was too difficult for them.

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:17 AM

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http://praan.ru/img/c88ce6.png

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They are the same, guys.

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:18 AM

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I found it funny, imo we should let the devs do their job and give feedback about balancing when the game is nearly finished. Otherwise it'll be like any other EA game where the devs are too kind to the players and keep rebalancing it for the next 3 years, meanwhile players will give more and more negative reviews because the devs "focused to much on balancing and not the game". Seen it happen a few times and it's not pretty 😄

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@drowsy karma Yeah, the only difference afaik are that 'likes are turnbased and 'lites are actionpacked volfredthink

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:20 AM

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Thats kinda not fair.

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:20 AM

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you guys will not like me for stating such things I get that 😦

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:21 AM

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I'd rather call games where you don't loose EVERYTHING roguelites, and where you start over completely roguelikes.

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 6:21 AM

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i dont mind what its called tbh:p

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:21 AM

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Like, Hades is Roguelite.

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Bindings of Isaac is roguelike.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:21 AM

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That’s just your own definition that you have to explain then, it’s better to just generally say one Unspecifically :p

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Since no one agrees fully

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 6:21 AM

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i just say what the devs call it:p

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:22 AM

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Same but also forget

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 6:22 AM

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it said rogue like i sy rogue like:p

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:22 AM

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Not everything is subjective. You can have an opinion about the objective, but that doesn't mean 'likes vs 'lites don't have their own definition by default 😄

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:22 AM

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And call everything likes haha

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Yeah that’s exactly what I’m saying man

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I cant get over how good Ares new portrait is

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Yeah oh man

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😩

cerulean vigil Dec 14, 2018, 6:23 AM

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I wish they had kept the helm from the original one

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:23 AM

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makes me so excited for nyx, artemis, sisyphus, charon, and orpheus

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:23 AM

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Definitions tend to change.

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:23 AM

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If that's what you're saying, why are you not agreeing 'likes are turnbased and 'lites are actionpacked 🤔 it's contradictive in a sense
Also, I get that roguelikes can have action as well, but the core function is still turns

cerulean vigil Dec 14, 2018, 6:23 AM

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But the sword is hype

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:23 AM

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Jen Zee is firing on all cannons for this game

cerulean vigil Dec 14, 2018, 6:23 AM

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Artemis is the one I'm most excited for

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:23 AM

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Sword got too much love haha

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:23 AM

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I mean she is always

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But so many characters

dark owl Dec 14, 2018, 6:23 AM

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What.. I'm pretty sure roguelike just meant closer to the game Rogue in terms of difficulty and harshness/punishment

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 6:23 AM

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well everybody calls dead cells a roguelike no?

cerulean vigil Dec 14, 2018, 6:23 AM

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Also all the voice acting is so good

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:23 AM

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I’m so hype for Artemis

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Yeah man

dark owl Dec 14, 2018, 6:24 AM

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Rogue-lite is an easier and usually more progressive form of Rogue games.. "Lite" as in light or smaller

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:24 AM

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@prime harness no, Deadcells call itself a rogue-lite

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:24 AM

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No it doesnt

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:24 AM

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Every game company says what I say

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:24 AM

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Dead Cells calls itself a RogueVania

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:24 AM

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I'd call DC a roguelike too.

dark owl Dec 14, 2018, 6:25 AM

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DC has progression, why is it like rogue?

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:25 AM

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We should really move any further debate to off-topic haha

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:25 AM

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@brisk trail yes it does haha. I can't link a screen here though

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:25 AM

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You only unlock stuff, you don't exactly get stronger by making more runs.

dark owl Dec 14, 2018, 6:26 AM

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You can improve your effeciency with items in a run no?

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Like as in over runs sorry, not in one run

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:26 AM

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No?

dark owl Dec 14, 2018, 6:26 AM

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Yea cant you spend the currency to add % dmg or effectiveness

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:26 AM

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Not anymore.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:26 AM

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There’s no point debating the definition because there isn’t an agreed upon one

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:26 AM

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You can increase the chance of items dropping with better stats.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:27 AM

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There isn’t a set in stone distinction despite what devs and wikis say

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 6:27 AM

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but yeah not every game has to be exactly the same right:p

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:27 AM

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@drowsy karma Devs of DC call it roguelite metroidvania, why call it something different? 🤔

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 6:27 AM

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can still be somewhat the same genre

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:27 AM

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The genres are very much alike!

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:27 AM

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What Led says.

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At some point, i'll just get annoyed and start calling everything Rogue.

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EVERYTHING.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:28 AM

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Ahaha

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 6:28 AM

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lets just call it a dungeon crawler:p problem solved:p

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:28 AM

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Dark souls? Rogue

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:28 AM

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Wow is Rogue.

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:28 AM

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Fine, okay. Lets make everything subjective

toxic silo Dec 14, 2018, 6:28 AM

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Has anyone figured out how to edit the savefile? I'd like to give myself back the progress I lost when my game crashed

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:28 AM

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My computer is a cake because I THINK it's a cake

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:28 AM

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This should probably go in #off-topic-discussion now

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 6:29 AM

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lol what does a cake have similar to a pc?

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:29 AM

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Exactly.

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Cake tastes good, so does my PC

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 6:29 AM

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no it doesent:p

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:29 AM

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Have you tasted it?

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 6:29 AM

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no but how can it be :p

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:29 AM

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Lets not.. go into that

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😄

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:30 AM

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The last thing I will say is that language is subjective by nature. Beyond that I’m happy to discuss more in offtopic

cedar hollow Dec 14, 2018, 6:31 AM

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PCs taste like chips. Thats why they call them computer chips

quiet jackal Dec 14, 2018, 6:32 AM

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@cedar hollow Mine is sourcream

olive jungle Dec 14, 2018, 6:32 AM

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hey guys?

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#off-topic-discussion

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 6:39 AM

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Another victory run.

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7th.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 6:42 AM

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Noice

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 6:58 AM

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So what causes the shield throw to hit you?

prime harness Dec 14, 2018, 6:59 AM

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idk dont use the special :p

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still in the mindset of its gonna fly away anyway:)

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seems to be boons that cause hits

hexed smelt Dec 14, 2018, 7:11 AM

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it seems to be a side effect of the change to making it return more consistently

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it’s a known issue and being investigated

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 7:41 AM

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Hm, i've been using shield for a while before, is it new patch bug?

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 7:41 AM

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yeah

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 7:41 AM

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Good to know, not to build shield special builds.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 7:42 AM

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im sure itll be resolved soon enough

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probably in a hotfix

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 7:53 AM

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Athena attack or zeus attack?

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 7:53 AM

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Weapon?

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 7:53 AM

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On flurry sword?

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 7:53 AM

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Zeus i'd say.

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 7:54 AM

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Oh well

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Murderboat ho!

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My dash now does 90 damage

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100 damage

minor nimbus Dec 14, 2018, 7:59 AM

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i think i might start using the sword more often

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 8:03 AM

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I feel like the beginner sword is abit weak compare to the rest of the weapons.

cerulean vigil Dec 14, 2018, 8:04 AM

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I will not use the sword lol

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 8:04 AM

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I want to like the sword but honestly even with the boons, it doesn't get any better.

minor nimbus Dec 14, 2018, 8:04 AM

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problem with the sword is that u stun urself

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whenever u use ur ult

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 8:05 AM

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I think the sword is definitely strong, but it still feels like the weakest weapon in my opinion

steady plume Dec 14, 2018, 8:05 AM

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That extra knockback on the ult has definitely helped

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 8:05 AM

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Yeah the knockback made it useable.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 8:06 AM

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The shield with the poseidon knock back boon is pacha

steady plume Dec 14, 2018, 8:06 AM

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Like extra damage on combos also definitely helped

cerulean vigil Dec 14, 2018, 8:06 AM

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It just feels like the worst by far

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Especially in boss fights

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 8:06 AM

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I've tried to get to Hydra with the sword... I just can't... I've reached the hydra with the spear, bow and shield.

cerulean vigil Dec 14, 2018, 8:07 AM

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I can't imagine fighting it with sword

steady plume Dec 14, 2018, 8:07 AM

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I have done it

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 8:07 AM

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I beat it with sword, but I was mainly relying on my cast.

lyric scroll Dec 14, 2018, 8:07 AM

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epic Poseidon dash at level three is uhhhh good

steady plume Dec 14, 2018, 8:07 AM

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Like the one I am actually having problems with is doing it with spear

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 8:07 AM

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Spear is really strong.

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 8:07 AM

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Really? I love the spear. Still the best imho

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 8:07 AM

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Shield is strong too with the right boons.

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Same with the bow.

steady plume Dec 14, 2018, 8:08 AM

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I have done it with the lifesteal sword

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And that was me actually relying on the sword

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 8:09 AM

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Shield + Poseidon's extra knockback lets you fling enemies across rooms.. It's crazy.

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 8:09 AM

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I really like the double crite on dash attack with the sword.

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crit*

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 8:09 AM

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I love that combination of boons.

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Useless against the bosses

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But great for regular enemies.

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 8:10 AM

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lol yeah Poseidon bashing enemies into the lava is great.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 8:13 AM

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Anyone knows how many Chambers there is gonna be?

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I'm also curious that some of the character seem to have the same art. Is it because their art isn't done yet?

lyric scroll Dec 14, 2018, 8:16 AM

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yeah, its the place holder for now

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 8:16 AM

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Ah okay.

hexed smelt Dec 14, 2018, 8:17 AM

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#hades-faq

tawny tundra Dec 14, 2018, 8:23 AM

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I think spear is just way much stronger than other weapons 😦
BTW, sometimes when I used shield's specials, I get the buff as well. Like if my specially has ares's buff then I would take damage as well. or if it has pink weak effect, i deal less damage too. Can someone confirm as if it's a bug or just mechanic

plain musk Dec 14, 2018, 8:24 AM

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It's a bug with the shield special

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Check the patch notes section

hexed smelt Dec 14, 2018, 8:26 AM

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it’s a known issue that’s been reported fifteen times already

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that’s not exaggerating. i counted.

tawny tundra Dec 14, 2018, 8:27 AM

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sad, using shield is fun but with that bug it's impossible to beat the game.
well not everyone sees patch note before they report, most ppl will just go to feedback/tech-support thou

hexed smelt Dec 14, 2018, 8:27 AM

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fifteen. times.

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there’s a “known issues” document linked in the channel description and pinned

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a brief search of the channel will bring up every time it’s been reported

tawny tundra Dec 14, 2018, 8:32 AM

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btw do you think adding slow screen feature when you use Tab to check the skill is bad?

vestal lodge Dec 14, 2018, 8:34 AM

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no, that could be good -- for if you want to check it during combat?

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 8:36 AM

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that sounds nice yeah!

olive jungle Dec 14, 2018, 8:36 AM

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That would be great

tawny tundra Dec 14, 2018, 8:37 AM

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sometimes, I want to recheck my skills set to find the best fighting tactics but then I get attacked by new mobs so yea I think it could be good to see that feature

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people may abuse it tho 😄

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or you can open new screen whenever people press Tab. There are ways to play around it

vestal lodge Dec 14, 2018, 8:41 AM

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Some day maybe we can show more detailed build info when you pause the game mid-run 🤔

tawny tundra Dec 14, 2018, 8:43 AM

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Yea. Like showing damage per attack, specials, and stuffs. It could be great for players in general, not everyone is good at maths lmao

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 8:46 AM

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nooooo i have 495 gold and aphrodite's poster showed up 😦

formal harbor Dec 14, 2018, 8:46 AM

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This game's so stinkin' cool

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 8:46 AM

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its very stinking cool

formal harbor Dec 14, 2018, 8:47 AM

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without really paying attention I've already killed a few thousand monsters

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2407 to be exact

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It's like, almost 4 in the morning too.

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 8:52 AM

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I BEAT THE HYDRA!

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 8:52 AM

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@stiff trellis Congrats!

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 8:55 AM

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It only took 41 attempts to do it

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 8:55 AM

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i relate to that

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what was your build

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 8:56 AM

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Life drinker with reflect on attack and special, zeus dash, bonus to deflect, and zeus cast

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 8:56 AM

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oh snap and i finally managed to get aphrodites poster

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 8:56 AM

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Blade

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 8:56 AM

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i was going in runs just to get the poster

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i was kinda cheesey with it, artemis multi shot and all that

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 8:56 AM

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@real narwhal Congrats!

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 8:56 AM

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Also I would never have thought that it was the sword of all things that got me throuh the run

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 8:57 AM

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i realize getting the posters and stuff actually helps?

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 8:57 AM

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That is surprising. did you have the lifesteal perk. I hear it helps.

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 8:57 AM

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cuz then you have a bigger chance to get more items that do matter during the run

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 8:58 AM

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Yeah

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 8:58 AM

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oh wow. I never thought of it that way, but you are right.

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 8:58 AM

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Lifesteal perk was the only reason I lived that long

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 9:22 AM

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And again!

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 9:23 AM

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Do you guys think theyre planning to replace the hooded character models as well, or just the portraits

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 9:24 AM

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Naturally

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 9:31 AM

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ib4 Sisyphus' model/portrait is a totally jacked muscle guy from all that boulder pushing

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LOL

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well ive seen the WIP for sisyphus

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; )

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I just wanna see the art for Artemis and Nyx.

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no WIP for them 😔

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I dont mind though, the surprise will be nice~

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 9:36 AM

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Yeah I am really looking forward to Artemis and Nyx designs.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 9:36 AM

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Im looking forward to Artemis most

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Theyre gonna make her look sad I bet : (

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 9:37 AM

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please refrain from making comments that are sexual in nature, this is a family friendly server.

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 9:41 AM

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Yeah the character desings in Pyre were so strong I am looking forward to seeing what they do with all these deities (and other important individuals). I already love Poseidons look and the new Ares look is real strong.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 9:41 AM

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Excuse me, sometimes I forget where I am. I shall watch my tongue.

olive jungle Dec 14, 2018, 9:44 AM

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it would be so funny for sisyphus to pull a King Bumi

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 9:46 AM

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omg that would be amazing

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just a buff old dude

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I hope they make a poster of Zag later, it would look great next to my Transistor poster.

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 9:53 AM

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Forget Zag. Give me a dusa poster.

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 9:54 AM

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i want....... dusa stickers

open socket Dec 14, 2018, 9:56 AM

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I want an option to pet Cerberus

slender monolith Dec 14, 2018, 9:59 AM

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Turn this game into a dating sim

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pls

fossil herald Dec 14, 2018, 10:00 AM

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will hades have linux support, or how is it using photon at the moment?

slender monolith Dec 14, 2018, 10:01 AM

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It will I'm sure

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 10:01 AM

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@void vigil dusa stickers would be great. @open socket Yes! Cerberus pets are a must.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 10:01 AM

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"That dog is not your pet, boy!"

slender monolith Dec 14, 2018, 10:01 AM

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How hard is to port to linux?

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I'm just curious is all

fossil herald Dec 14, 2018, 10:02 AM

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I mean they've done it for their other games, I'm not a game dev nor is that my line of work so I could not say sadly :/

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:02 AM

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The major caveat with porting comes down to the engine

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Is it portable?

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Once you consider multiple patforms in mind, things become much easier

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When you're like "oh this is just Windows" then think of porting later

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Have fun

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It's part of why you have mercenary companies for porting

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Many companies use the latter mentality

fossil herald Dec 14, 2018, 10:04 AM

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^^^

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 10:04 AM

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the engine is custom build i think

fossil herald Dec 14, 2018, 10:04 AM

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they do use a custom engine

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at least they have for bastion transistor and pyre to my knowledge

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:05 AM

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They have a modified version of MonoGame which was made to make porting things easier

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They should be good

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Prior games have shown

fossil herald Dec 14, 2018, 10:06 AM

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that's good to know im switching because i need to play less games and focus on cisco and work bs atm

hallow summit Dec 14, 2018, 10:09 AM

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Missing Battle Royale mode in the latest patch

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 10:11 AM

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@hallow summit lol right. Way to buck trends Super Giant. with your early access rogue like....... well some trends at least.

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:14 AM

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Can't wait for a Wizardry 8 inspired dungeon crawler in the year 2025

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That would actually be nice tho

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:26 AM

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When do the microtransactions come in for the boons

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:26 AM

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You get the red boots DLC

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Where Zagreus wears red boots

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And that's it

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:27 AM

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And then the keys become a premium resource that you have to pay money for

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And the DLC that lets you talk to people, dash, use specials, launch the game

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:29 AM

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DLC is more orpheus songs in the house of hades

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or, alternatively

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:29 AM

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It's almost like Supergiant made this game so we could play it

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:29 AM

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custom songs by orpheus in the house of hades

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imagine getting out of the blood pool and immigrant song just starts blasting from the speakers

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:30 AM

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God, could you imagine if this game was done by a Triple A company and we had to deal with a tomfoolery they put into every game

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Also immigrant song would be amazing

hallow summit Dec 14, 2018, 10:31 AM

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Guys, cosmetics only please, decorations for Z's room

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:31 AM

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i approve of this

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:31 AM

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Had some bizarre dream about the game's ending

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:31 AM

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more pinups/wall posters, but instead of aphrodite, it's all zeus, poseidon and ares

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:32 AM

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So Zagreus finally climbs to the surface

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WhThen it fades to black

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When suddenly

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https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-IE5SUiGRfA/maxresdefault.jpg

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:32 AM

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it was pyre all along?

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or that

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 10:32 AM

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im sure these are not the last of the room decorations, or at least i hope not

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:32 AM

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4 would be a pretty low number of decorations to have

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:33 AM

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I have no clue what my brain was on

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But it's something I guess

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:33 AM

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maybe you get like one decoration for beating the game

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and one for beating the game without a certain amount of boons?

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:34 AM

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Would be hilarious if that gets you multiple ending

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Mixing them is a neutral one

hallow summit Dec 14, 2018, 10:34 AM

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Can I have one for not beating the game?

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:34 AM

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Sticking to one god makes you their champion

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:34 AM

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ooh yeah, that could be nice

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final confrontation is a boss rush against all the gods

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except the one whose boons you have the most of

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he/she helps you instead

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:35 AM

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Narrator: And then Zagreus killed everyone and Greece lived happily ever after... until the Romans came

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credits

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:35 AM

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yup

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after credits sequence shows zagreus meeting kratos in nordic-land (i know it's midgard but nordic-land sounds funnier in my head)

nova kestrel Dec 14, 2018, 10:45 AM

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so

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god of war

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:45 AM

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Ok first of all

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 10:45 AM

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weirdly enough greece had a lot of problems bit before the romans came, and when they did, it wasnt...that bad for greeks?

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:46 AM

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We all know what happens when Zagreus reaches the top

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The screen turns black

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And then you hear

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:46 AM

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Greece's downfall was ironically language

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They couldn't separate laws from customs

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It was the same word

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:46 AM

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"Hey, you! You're finally awake."

burnt pond Dec 14, 2018, 10:46 AM

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Too high brow for this discord

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:47 AM

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everything is pyre

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 10:47 AM

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i would cry if that happened

burnt pond Dec 14, 2018, 10:47 AM

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Give us fart jokes in english only

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:47 AM

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i'm sure bastion and transistor are also pyre somehow

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 10:47 AM

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everything has to be a shared universe

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:47 AM

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Tansistor was the VR Chat of Bastion

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:47 AM

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bastion was what happened to the underside (was it called that i haven't played the game in a year i forgot) after the rites were done

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boom

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connected

steady plume Dec 14, 2018, 10:47 AM

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Nah you hear "Proper story's supposed to start at the begining..."

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:47 AM

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Obviously bastion is of the occurences shortly after Soliam Murr's exile

amber garden Dec 14, 2018, 10:48 AM

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backs slowly away from Supergiant meta universe chat

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 10:48 AM

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mannnn these bastion quoets give me goosebumps

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its so long since i played bastion

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its nostalgia fuel

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:49 AM

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i must reveal something shocking to you lads

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i haven't ever played bastion

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:49 AM

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With the literal end of the world happening, everything either turning to stone or wanting to fight

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:49 AM

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played all the rest

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 10:49 AM

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git outta here

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:49 AM

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not bastion, tho

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 10:49 AM

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until you played it

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:49 AM

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There's windbags, blobby boys

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There's hammers

steady plume Dec 14, 2018, 10:49 AM

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Squirts

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:49 AM

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Obviously pyre

nova kestrel Dec 14, 2018, 10:49 AM

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Bastion was my first ever steam game

drifting emberBOT Dec 14, 2018, 10:49 AM

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Please check #hades-faq for our answer regarding additional platforms!

amber garden Dec 14, 2018, 10:49 AM

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Bastion is a very good video game.

nova kestrel Dec 14, 2018, 10:49 AM

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ok bot

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you do you

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:50 AM

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Bastion is good

nova kestrel Dec 14, 2018, 10:50 AM

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let me guess

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it was

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steam

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no?

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:50 AM

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I need to finish the new game + tho

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Also

steady plume Dec 14, 2018, 10:50 AM

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Steam game?

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:50 AM

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Wrong channel

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:50 AM

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should i get bastion in the christmas sale?

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:50 AM

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Wrong channel for this discussion

steady plume Dec 14, 2018, 10:50 AM

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Probably has a timer before it reminds people

nova kestrel Dec 14, 2018, 10:50 AM

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all the games are connected

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therefore

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all chats are

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as well

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200iq

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 10:51 AM

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I wish I had a galaxy brain image to post rn

steady plume Dec 14, 2018, 10:51 AM

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It was more just us jokingly tying all the games together

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:51 AM

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I can't believe Hypnos is slowly choking on his food while nobody pays attention

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Look at how blue he is

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:51 AM

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hypnos is gone for more than half of my runs and i don't know why

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couldn't be because i didn't give him any ambrosia past the first

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 10:52 AM

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sometimes npcs just wont be around

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it happens with anyone but hades

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:52 AM

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A similar bug occured in Red Dead 2

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Where gang members just disappear until you do a mission

nova kestrel Dec 14, 2018, 10:52 AM

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I wish hades would go to the store for some smokes

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:53 AM

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His mustache is his cigar

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 10:53 AM

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it isnt a bug

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zag even has lines for it

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 10:54 AM

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i know it isn't a bug

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but the amount of times it happened is weird

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 10:55 AM

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im talking to pigasus since he mentioned the rdr2 bug, but in this case its intended

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 10:55 AM

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oh oh will pegasus be a thing

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 10:55 AM

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yeah, more than half your runs is a bit of a high number

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 10:57 AM

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Understood

frozen hemlock Dec 14, 2018, 11:01 AM

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So how much more content do you guys think is reasonable to expect

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We know there are at least two more weapons coming

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 11:01 AM

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More music

frozen hemlock Dec 14, 2018, 11:01 AM

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Maybe two more levels? For the remaining furies?

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:02 AM

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I expect the remaining furies for sure, and I am guessing Hades is the end boss.

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or maybe a tearful Cerberus fight.

frozen hemlock Dec 14, 2018, 11:02 AM

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Alright so maybe 3 more levels the?

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:02 AM

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Unless the other two fury sisters work as one boss.

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and even more chaotic version of the Meg fight.

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 11:03 AM

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I just want more music and some more exploration of some characters, such as the gift conversations

frozen hemlock Dec 14, 2018, 11:03 AM

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I definitely thought the hydra was going to be a fury instead

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:04 AM

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@stiff trellis yes. I have a small mountain of ambrosia waiting for those hearts to unlock.

frozen hemlock Dec 14, 2018, 11:04 AM

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So do you just get extra convos and story if you keep on giving gifts? I've only given one to each for the keepsakes

stiff trellis Dec 14, 2018, 11:04 AM

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I think a fight against both of the other furies at the same time would be cool

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It'd be hell, but that's kinda the point if you think about it

frozen hemlock Dec 14, 2018, 11:05 AM

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I didnt expect the character to all be so well written tbh

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Also yeah itd literally be hell

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:05 AM

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@frozen hemlock I have gotten small vignettes with some of the characters at certain heart levels, but I don't know how much dialogue is tied to those.

frozen hemlock Dec 14, 2018, 11:06 AM

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Oh ok awesome so that's something to work towards

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:08 AM

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yeah I was surprised how much charm alot of the characters have and how many different lines of dialogue was recorded for the gods. A lot of it is context sensitive too depending on what weapon you have or what other gods boon you have.

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i guess I shouldn't be surprised that Super Giant made characters I want to engage with, but considering it is early access I was surprised how much is already there.

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:09 AM

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i just want the option to romance meg

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:09 AM

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lol. Not me. Dusa for sure.

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:09 AM

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dusa is a very close second

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:09 AM

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Or Artemis.

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:09 AM

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btw, if the final boss does end up being hades

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maybe there's a prelude fight with ~~good doggo~~ cerberus

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:11 AM

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@rocky coyote Don't say it. I don't have the heart to kill cerberus. Part of me expects a bit of a bait and switch and the final fights to take place on olympus against a zeus that betrays you or something. The gods are known to be fickle.

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:11 AM

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you don't kill cerberus

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instead, it does the whole Sif thing where it goes limp

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and you stop fighting it

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:12 AM

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And then after the fight with Hades there is a cutscene where he is about to strike you down and Cerberus runs in to help you.

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 11:12 AM

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Imagine last fight.

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:12 AM

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I should stop before I slip into fanfic territory.

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 11:12 AM

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Its Cerberus, and Hades tells you that if you kill him, he won't come back like others do.

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:12 AM

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@alpine jolt cerberus helps you by letting you ride him

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you're now a cavalry unit

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:13 AM

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@rocky coyote Yes.

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@drowsy karma I may just not beat the game then.

drowsy karma Dec 14, 2018, 11:16 AM

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Cruel, such is the way of Hades.

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 11:16 AM

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Hades will call Zagreus a coward for getting the dog involved

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Ayways dog's old

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Needs munchies

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Not punchies

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:20 AM

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yiss

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also

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am i the only one who thinks that maybe meg and zagreus were a thing previously?

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they have a line that kinda sorta implies it

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 11:21 AM

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#h1-story-discussion

ebon island Dec 14, 2018, 11:21 AM

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just played my first game with the buffed bow, got a wwin

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:21 AM

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sorry, alma

ebon island Dec 14, 2018, 11:22 AM

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artemis boon of crit after dash works with the bow, also having piercing from the start and applying ares was pretty awesome

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:28 AM

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I just realized this game doesn't have any achievements. After unlocking all the upgrades I could really go for some challenges or something.

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You know little brass rings to strive for.

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:34 AM

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I think that may just be an Epic Launcher thing, and potentially out of SG's hands at the moment.

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 11:34 AM

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As it is the launcher is pretty barebones

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So unless Epic does some stuff you'll wait for the Steam version

drifting emberBOT Dec 14, 2018, 11:34 AM

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Please check #hades-faq for our answer regarding additional platforms!

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 11:34 AM

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Oops

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:34 AM

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hehe

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Useful link though.

frigid dragon Dec 14, 2018, 11:35 AM

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Anyone got a legendary boon before?

runic thicket Dec 14, 2018, 11:35 AM

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Yeah

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:35 AM

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Mhm!

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Extremely low chance.

runic thicket Dec 14, 2018, 11:35 AM

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Got one today

frigid dragon Dec 14, 2018, 11:35 AM

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Got a Zeus one, just obliterated everything

runic thicket Dec 14, 2018, 11:35 AM

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Poseidon's didn't really work with his dash boon

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:35 AM

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I've only gotten Poseidon, Aphrodite and Artemis' Legendary

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:35 AM

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I got the Aphrodite one

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:36 AM

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Haven't gotten Ares, Zeus, Athena, so I don't know what any of those do

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 11:36 AM

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ive gote none

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and ive "beaten" the game

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:36 AM

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Potentiallly turning enemies to your side is neat, but the low chance makes it not that good

frigid dragon Dec 14, 2018, 11:36 AM

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Zeus makes your attack create a lot of lightning balls

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:36 AM

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I've got a few of them. Don't remember them being that great considering how rare they are.

frigid dragon Dec 14, 2018, 11:36 AM

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that deals 40 dmg

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:36 AM

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oh yeah I do remember the Zeus one was really good.d

frigid dragon Dec 14, 2018, 11:37 AM

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I'm curious to see Athena's and Artemi's

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:37 AM

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Artemis supposedly spawns a true shot cast each time you attack or do a cast yourself

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:38 AM

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That's the first one I ever got, yeah.

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It was super super helpful.

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It was the reason I cleared the game's current content for the first time! 😄

runic thicket Dec 14, 2018, 11:39 AM

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Artemis makes you spawn a true shot projectile everytime you use an attack or cast

Zeus makes enemies that get struck by lightning get struck by lightning again

Poseidon makes your knockback effects knockback twice after a delay

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:39 AM

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Oh wow that Zeus one. Dude.

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:39 AM

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Zeus sounds really good but also requiring a build built for it

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:39 AM

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I think Ares had something to do with his Blade Rifts...?

runic thicket Dec 14, 2018, 11:39 AM

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I think it sucks enemies in

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:39 AM

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RIGHT!

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:40 AM

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Ooh

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That sounds good

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Btw

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Y'all seen the new ares art?

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:41 AM

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He looks siiiccck

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I think the new art reflects his whole "so murder and killing huh? slaughter and death and stuff! atta boy~" vibe even more 😛

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:42 AM

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I think he looks hot, but that's just me

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:42 AM

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He's definitely a good-looking god.

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:42 AM

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I still don't like his personality, tho

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:43 AM

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I appreciate every character's personality, even the ones I don't actually like

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I know that sounds odd but it's just a testament to how varied and flavorful each character is

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 11:43 AM

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i also dont like him

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but he is hot

runic thicket Dec 14, 2018, 11:43 AM

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I think Artemis should get the next art rework

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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I think either Aphrodite or Poseidon are my favourite of the gods

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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@runic thicket I second the motion.

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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Artemis' art is a pretty obvious placeholder

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At least it looks like it to me

runic thicket Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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Right now she's orpheus/sisyphus but female

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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Poseidon is pretty great. His look and personality are stellar.

runic thicket Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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I find it kinda strange Ares got it first

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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Artemis is one of my faves xD
She's like the cool sister who's like "ugh being here is such a drag. It probably sucks down there for you too huh? Anyway get outta there so we can shoot stuff dude"

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:44 AM

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Btw, about the artemis sprite

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I think the one who's meant to have that is either nyx or charon

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It suits both of them well

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:45 AM

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Agreed.

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Honestly it works for Sisyphus too, for whatever reason.

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But Nyx and Charon 100%, they're both these shadowy figures.

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 11:45 AM

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it is a placeholder

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all of them are

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:45 AM

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Sisyphus until you get max rank for him

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 11:45 AM

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#hades-faq

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Then he becomes hot like the rest of them

runic thicket Dec 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Oh

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Huh

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Good to know, I suppose

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

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I'm clinging onto the hope that at least one character stays all cloaked and hooded because it looks badass

runic thicket Dec 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Probably Charon

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Or Nyx

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:46 AM

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Even if they rework the actual appearance of the cloak and hood

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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I'm placing my bets on Charon

alpine jolt Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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Yeah Charon makes sense to stay cloaked. The boatman needs his mystique after all.

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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He reminds me of the 'masked death' trope

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:47 AM

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"Eeehhrghrhhh..."
"Good talk."

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 11:49 AM

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theyve said before that some characters might keep the hooded look but not that portrait

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 11:50 AM

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probably nyx or smth

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:50 AM

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Okay, that makes me happy enough ^__^

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 11:51 AM

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nyx and charon, yeah!

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im excited to see everyones final art

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 11:51 AM

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I hope Artemis looks cool

finite mantle Dec 14, 2018, 11:52 AM

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Big Sis Artemis give me the Crit Chance so I can leave this infernal realm

runic thicket Dec 14, 2018, 11:52 AM

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Is it just me or is this the spear of longinus? https://i.gyazo.com/827b80a96e80fa6222dc7f4b792f6264.png

steady plume Dec 14, 2018, 11:53 AM

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Nope that is probably a reference to Hades' Bident

runic thicket Dec 14, 2018, 11:53 AM

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Aw

steady plume Dec 14, 2018, 11:53 AM

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It could be if you believe hard enough I guess

runic thicket Dec 14, 2018, 11:54 AM

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Maybe one day

true quail Dec 14, 2018, 11:58 AM

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to me it looks like a fork in early access

ocean notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:12 PM

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man I had a fun run

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beating hydra with are's dash was fun

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 12:13 PM

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I want someone to do an all dash run

ocean notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:13 PM

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Ares one is probably possible

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 12:13 PM

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Like, pick a keepsake that gets you the particular god that you want, then just get their dash ability and proceed to do the rest of the game with it

ocean notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:13 PM

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if you mix in crits from athena

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 12:14 PM

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I'd say either zeus, aphrodite or poseidon would be viable

ocean notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:14 PM

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nah man Ares

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blade storm

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it lingers around

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and you just run like hell

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 12:14 PM

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Does ares dash apply after each hop

clever linden Dec 14, 2018, 12:14 PM

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Well... I've done a dash build with Zeus this morning dusa

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 12:14 PM

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Like Aphrodite's dash

ocean notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:14 PM

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at each start

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 12:14 PM

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Because if it does, that's really good

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Ah

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I'll pass, then

ocean notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:14 PM

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but you can increase the rift size

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and do 15 per hit

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30 with crits

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:3

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 12:15 PM

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Having the ability to proc damage 3 times is better, at least for me

ocean notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:15 PM

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Its the ares cast, but as a dash

clever linden Dec 14, 2018, 12:16 PM

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when you have nothing better and the epic boon, it's ok :p

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 12:17 PM

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Anyone wonder what the other two weapons will be?

ocean notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:17 PM

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probs a Hammer

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 12:17 PM

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I'd like to see a flail as one of them

ocean notch Dec 14, 2018, 12:17 PM

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and maybe gauntlets?

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 12:17 PM

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Gauntlets sound neat

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If they're just the spear but shorter range and jacked up attack rate

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 12:19 PM

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Is it just me or does the spear remind me awfully a lot of the spear in bastion, It feels almost the same.

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Only faster that is.

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Quick question: I'm hearing Orpheus as a female voice, but Zagreus and others keep refferring her as "he." What am I missing here?

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 12:21 PM

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technically, bastion has a pike :P

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he is a man

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with a high voice

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 12:22 PM

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Well the pike seem to be exactly the same in animation and throwing but only much faster xD

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I am not complaining really, I loved the pike weapon in Bastion.

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 12:22 PM

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i know i know i was just joking

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 12:26 PM

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https://youtu.be/SqFaCDvHxU4

YouTube

Supergiant Games

Hades - Out of Tartarus

Play now in Early Access at: https://goo.gl/aMFcbB Hades is a trademark of Supergiant Games, LLC.

▶ Play video

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This one's a banger

fresh scaffold Dec 14, 2018, 1:11 PM

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shadesmile

vagrant leaf Dec 14, 2018, 1:54 PM

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Its not a bident either actually
https://i.gyazo.com/827b80a96e80fa6222dc7f4b792f6264.png

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if you pump up brightness youll see that its a spear with a hole

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 1:55 PM

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Oh yeah

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Looks like the spear you use in the game, kinda

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 1:56 PM

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I keep treating Hades like Dead cells at times....In a way that I forget that I can take my time with dealing with enemies in the room.

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 1:57 PM

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For me, Hades feels like just a better version of dead cells

vagrant leaf Dec 14, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Nah, they are totally different. I love both, but i never fought of hades as something similar to dead cells

jolly sphinx Dec 14, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Hades, is hades. Comparison is reduntant even when the camera perspective is totally different.

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 1:59 PM

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Fair enough

vagrant leaf Dec 14, 2018, 2:00 PM

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weapon and equipment mechanics are just too different, and battle pacing in general too

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 2:00 PM

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I suppose I just haven't played enough rougelikes to differentiate them in my mind

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Also i have a lot of gripes with dead cells that are fixed in hades

copper bough Dec 14, 2018, 2:01 PM

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when Hades will get something even remotely close to Dead Cells' depth of mechanics this game will be FIRE

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rn its just too early in development

vagrant leaf Dec 14, 2018, 2:03 PM

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Well, its a possibility that SG was inspired by DC, but still similarities even if they are present a mostly in design and/or music

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 2:04 PM

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I think the only thing that I'd want to see taken from dead cells and put in hades is the multiple paths for each run

vagrant leaf Dec 14, 2018, 2:04 PM

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gameplay and progression systems are way different

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 2:04 PM

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That's a pretty good mechanic

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Other than that, I want to forget dead cells as soon as possible

jolly sphinx Dec 14, 2018, 2:08 PM

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Why do you want to forget DC, did you have a negative experience with the game?

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 2:09 PM

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I mean, I had fun for half an hour

hexed smelt Dec 14, 2018, 2:09 PM

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#off-topic-discussion if you’re going to talk about dead cells with no connection to hades, please

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 2:09 PM

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Then the game became horrifically boring

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Sorry, sparrow

jolly sphinx Dec 14, 2018, 2:09 PM

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okey.

brisk trail Dec 14, 2018, 2:26 PM

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Nah sorry! The only reason I was connecting Hades with Dead cells was because that I tend to rush kill everything but I keep forgetting that in Hades that I don't need to rush kill everything, I can take my time killing the enemies unless I am doing the chest one.

vagrant leaf Dec 14, 2018, 3:13 PM

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@olive jungle Where can i post memes here ?

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about hades

olive jungle Dec 14, 2018, 3:14 PM

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here

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or in spoilers, if it's spoilery

vagrant leaf Dec 14, 2018, 3:14 PM

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regular people cant

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discord does not allow me

olive jungle Dec 14, 2018, 3:14 PM

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oh you mean upload images? you can put it somewhere like imgur first

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or put it in fanworks

vagrant leaf Dec 14, 2018, 3:15 PM

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oh, kay

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please pet the shieldbug
https://imgur.com/ludagHk

Imgur

vale kite Dec 14, 2018, 3:16 PM

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it's colorful to warn predators

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 3:17 PM

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It has spikes to blend in with rocks

olive jungle Dec 14, 2018, 3:31 PM

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there he is

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the shieldbug

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 3:31 PM

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Final boss leaked

outer agate Dec 14, 2018, 3:31 PM

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the skull is a pretty big warning too

hexed smelt Dec 14, 2018, 3:32 PM

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yeah that's kinda like saying "oh he warns people away by wearing a scarf. also by waving a knife at people. but we think it's the scarf that does the trick"

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 3:32 PM

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I mean, yeah

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That scarf is fabulous

hexed smelt Dec 14, 2018, 3:33 PM

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also while we're shieldbug memes

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📎 unknown.png

alpine stratus Dec 14, 2018, 3:33 PM

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hexed smelt Dec 14, 2018, 3:33 PM

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(disclaimer: this is photoshop phoolery, hypnos does not actually say this)

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 3:33 PM

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Aw

alpine stratus Dec 14, 2018, 3:33 PM

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(no no....YOU say this. 21 of you)

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 3:34 PM

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I was about to ask how you achieved this lol

hexed smelt Dec 14, 2018, 3:34 PM

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I Can't Believe I Have To Say This, But I Do,

vagrant leaf Dec 14, 2018, 3:37 PM

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https://imgur.com/1MzXJLT

Imgur

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 3:37 PM

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Now I'm imagining a double egged-sword

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And getting hungry

alpine stratus Dec 14, 2018, 3:37 PM

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buffs and bugfixes will come to you but only if you do NOT post "!bug the shield is broken" in the feedback channel

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 3:38 PM

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The shield is the ultimate speedrunning weapon

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 3:38 PM

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^

quick cedar Dec 14, 2018, 3:38 PM

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It's a feature

cerulean vigil Dec 14, 2018, 3:38 PM

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Pets the shiledbug

vagrant leaf Dec 14, 2018, 3:40 PM

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you forgot the *

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pets the ShieldBug

outer agate Dec 14, 2018, 3:40 PM

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pets the Shiledbug

subtle notch Dec 14, 2018, 3:40 PM

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GVBSDFJVBDHKSLBVSDLKVG SPARROW AMAZING

slender monolith Dec 14, 2018, 3:40 PM

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pets the Shiledbug

vagrant leaf Dec 14, 2018, 3:41 PM

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@subtle notch you inspired me to do this

hexed smelt Dec 14, 2018, 3:41 PM

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i'm just very in love with the idea of my disaster son getting so into yeeting his shield around that it bonks him in the face on the rebound

kind egret Dec 14, 2018, 3:45 PM

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*pets the Shieldbug*

subtle notch Dec 14, 2018, 3:45 PM

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how did you do that oh my god

kind egret Dec 14, 2018, 3:45 PM

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FYI: The backslash makes Discord disregard the Markdown.

subtle notch Dec 14, 2018, 3:45 PM

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OH

kind egret Dec 14, 2018, 3:46 PM

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Just one needs to be put. I think.

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Yeah, one in front of statement - https://support.discordapp.com/hc/en-us/articles/210298617-Markdown-Text-101-Chat-Formatting-Bold-Italic-Underline-?page=2#comments

Discord

Markdown Text 101 (Chat Formatting: Bold, Italic, Underline)

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half surge Dec 14, 2018, 3:47 PM

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A double backslash negates the markdown on the second backslash which stops it from negating the rest of the stuff

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\hello

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\\*hello*

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Which is a weird quirk of markdown

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Triple backslash gives you a backslash and negated markdown

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\*hello*

outer agate Dec 14, 2018, 3:48 PM

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Markdown disintensifies

kind egret Dec 14, 2018, 3:48 PM

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ooooooh

outer agate Dec 14, 2018, 3:48 PM

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is this a word?

kind egret Dec 14, 2018, 3:49 PM

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Now I can do laying down emoji without interruption. *u*

half surge Dec 14, 2018, 3:49 PM

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It's the reason why to do the shrug on reddit you have to do ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Wait, this is #h1-discussion thinkW

vagrant leaf Dec 14, 2018, 3:50 PM

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volfredthink

kind egret Dec 14, 2018, 3:50 PM

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Back to off-topic we go. ∠( ᐛ 」∠)＿

nocturne perch Dec 14, 2018, 3:52 PM

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I think this Hades has pretty high instabuy probabilities👍

vagrant leaf Dec 14, 2018, 3:52 PM

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Mmm, after couple of major patches yes

void vigil Dec 14, 2018, 3:52 PM

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it certainly is worth it

half surge Dec 14, 2018, 3:53 PM

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I don't think I could justify the price tag in the current iteration of the game, but it's getting more content.

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New major update in a month

vagrant leaf Dec 14, 2018, 3:53 PM

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but now i would recommend it only to people who are willing to bugreport and give feedback regularly

nocturne perch Dec 14, 2018, 3:57 PM

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for me the following increases the probability of instabuy:

It's from my favorite Dev's that made the epic Transistor game and also Bastion
It's DRM free/or will be?
Sometimes i just like to playtest games, rather than just play em.
And also i like the fact of @vagrant leaf recommending it to people willing to do bug reports, thats awesome and very honest of you.👍

reef sleet Dec 14, 2018, 4:10 PM

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My preformance has been much smoother and faster this last patch

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 4:11 PM

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I never bought early access before, and i wasnt sure if i should cuz i like having the full experience

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 4:11 PM

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I haven't stress tested it yet

real narwhal Dec 14, 2018, 4:11 PM

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but then i realized i never had the experience of seeing the game grow

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and seeing more of the dev side, its really cool

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 4:11 PM

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(aka not killing anyone in one of those infinite spawn chambers)

west cape Dec 14, 2018, 4:11 PM

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I also really like the patch. Removed a lot of the annoying things i found with the game

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 4:12 PM

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Am I the only one who thinks those infinite spawn chambers should reward you for killing enemies in them?

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It'd make me not just dash around like a lunatic, that's for sure

west cape Dec 14, 2018, 4:13 PM

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I still think it rewards killing the enemies as it makes it a whole lot safer to dash around like a lunatic when there arent 100 skulls flying at you

rocky coyote Dec 14, 2018, 4:14 PM

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Fair enough, I suppose