h1-discussion

[sharp phoenix]

i have never tried to speedrun anything that isn't zag sword

[latent moon]

rama also kinda poops the bed for speed unless you're like 1 of 2 people

actually 1 of like 4

[sharp phoenix]

both my runs on rama i felt like i played awfully but the aspect is just so strong that it doesn't matter i played bad

[vast raven]

rama is neat

[latent moon]

rama moment

very easy to be awful at rama

[sharp phoenix]

fr

being awful at rama is still doing pretty well

it's so goddamn strong

i like zag sword cos i feel like i'm actually very good at it

even if it's not strong

it is 80ish% of my gametime tho

[jagged hamlet]

Nememememone sword is basically just better Zagsword

[latent moon]

if you feel like you're good at zag sword, you'll be shocked to find out you'd also be good at nemesis lmfao

[sharp phoenix]

i should try nemesis sword

i was just taught speedrunning with zag sword plume

and i find it so fun

[latent moon]

like unironically i dont think there's any build difference other than starting keepsake

but like

even with plume

[sharp phoenix]

is nemesis conch keepsake?

[latent moon]

yeah

bc you want tidal dash

[sharp phoenix]

makes sense

[latent moon]

which you want on zag sword anyways

[sharp phoenix]

i love tidal dash

[old bluff]

It works well with me too

[sharp phoenix]

in my tier list tidal dash is third

[latent moon]

i mean what other dash would you want

other than athena for ME

[sharp phoenix]

it's only beaten by great catch (i love fishing), and trippy shot

i love trippy shot so much

it's so good

[stiff obsidian]

tidal dash 🤢

[sharp phoenix]

trippy shot just has so much like being better than the rest

[old bluff]

Nalei moment

You can see the influence

[sharp phoenix]

my love of trippy shot is independent of nalei ngl

although they are a big fan of me liking trippy shot

[latent moon]

that tracks

[sharp phoenix]

we do tend to like the same thing

[stiff obsidian]

id pay for you to take my trippy shots

ive been getting nothing but those

[sharp phoenix]

why would you ever want to not see trippy shot?

it's so much damage

and you can pre trippy things very easily

[stiff obsidian]

not in high heat

[sharp phoenix]

i do think tidal dash in a vacuum is better than trippy shot but i think that trippy shot is so much better than the rest in a way that tidal dash is like on a similar level to divine dash and like passion dash isn't that much worse

[sharp phoenix]

what cast do u want in high heat?

[stiff obsidian]

ideally none

[sharp phoenix]

my highest heat is 20 cos i'm still pretty new (i have 20 heat on sword and like 10 heat on my next highest heat weapon_

[stiff obsidian]

dont want it to steal poms

[sharp phoenix]

do you just want it to lodge

[stiff obsidian]

20 is great

[sharp phoenix]

ohh u don't want it to pom

[stiff obsidian]

yeah basically

[sharp phoenix]

20 seems pretty easy on sword at least

i've watched nalei on 50 heat a few times and i could not do that

[stiff obsidian]

yea it does

[sharp phoenix]

20 heat lets the majority of your pact be on the free stuff

[stiff obsidian]

try 24

[sharp phoenix]

i realised that everything over 20 is exponentially harder

cos ur taking the stuff that rly sucks

up to like 18 you can have very free settings

like extreme measures 3 and 2 timer things with middle management

is already like 12 heat or so

[stiff obsidian]

ok i lied tdash is great

[sharp phoenix]

i feel like for my heat level the last timer heat is kinda free given i do most runs in like 17ish minutes but i get very stressed out by the timer

also tartarus is slower than anything else for me

[sharp phoenix]

i love tidal dash so much

it has some of the utility of divine dash if they're next to a wall anyway

[stiff obsidian]

i just like blade dash better

so classy

[sharp phoenix]

i do know that blade dash is the highest dps

but tidal dash is very close

and gives you poseidon

and i like poseidon

more than ares

[stiff obsidian]

yea ares sucks for support

[sharp phoenix]

i lowkey find divine dash boring which is why i never rly take it

i'm still low heat tho

once i'm higher heat i will be much happier to see it

i just don't need the i frames rn

[stiff obsidian]

funnily im currently avoiding ddash

because ive become too reliant on iframed dashes

[sharp phoenix]

you could never be an acid

you're way too based

[stiff obsidian]

lmao

[sharp phoenix]

in my non sword runs i generally try to throw early to make it a challenge

like taking crystal beam

i kinda suck at non sword

i don't wanna sound cocky but i am very good at sword

i have never lost a run after beating my first run with sword

i think my worst aspect is the spear hidden one

i'm so bad at working out when to try heal

i can do the double dash tech thing every time cos i was taught that before i started a run

but i lost at like 10 heat which is embarassing

[stiff obsidian]

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voices telling me to skip shop

shouldve taken earring

[sharp phoenix]

you have money and it's a free room

you take shop for sure right

i do have a weird thing with duo rooms where i can't take poseidon second cos i am tragically very colourblind

and can never see the poseidon waves

[stiff obsidian]

damn

i think there are colorblind mods

[sharp phoenix]

i refuse colourblind mods

they make every colour different

and i like the general colour scheme of hades

i am basically fine other than traps in act 2/3 and poseidon duo rooms

[stiff obsidian]

i think they outline stuff rather than recolor but i dont know much tbh

[sharp phoenix]

oh that's kinda fire

i like that

i generally hate colourblind settings cos they just make things weird colours

i don't wanna run modded hades tho until i'm top 10 in something

otherwise what's the point

[stiff obsidian]

damn

thats gonna take a while

[sharp phoenix]

i think my pb for zag sword was like 17th or something

it was 9:20 while i had like 20 hours in the game

i for sure can make top 10 in not that much time

[stiff obsidian]

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be for real

6 poms in a row

[sharp phoenix]

i am saddened

tidal dash is such a good pom target

[stiff obsidian]

upto lvl 4 i was like alright i dont hate it but now im being trolled

[sharp phoenix]

is that rare tidal dash as well?

common is 35 right?

[stiff obsidian]

yes

[sharp phoenix]

you are being trolled

john hades hates you

and is personally making your rng bad

what is the easiest aspect for high heat btw?

[stiff obsidian]

upto 50 id say hestia

[sharp phoenix]

i have done a couple runs with zeus shield and it feels very strong easily

[stiff obsidian]

zeus also works

[sharp phoenix]

shield having a block mechanic feels very good for low heat

and zeus having a way to deal damage while blocking is kinda nuts

i have only done 2 runs but it felt easier than anything i have done

[stiff obsidian]

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LMAO

NOWAY

[sharp phoenix]

they hate you and they want you dead

zeus aid as well

like anything that isn't lightning strike ur happy with

[stiff obsidian]

fr

[sharp phoenix]

from my limited experience i have zeus aid as the best call, athena at second, dionysus at third

i like having agency while the call works

so i don't love poseidon/ ares things that lower the dps

[stiff obsidian]

poseidon call is actually rly underrated

for heat atleast

[sharp phoenix]

you get some i frames from any call so even zeus can be a panic button

[stiff obsidian]

the damage can get crazy

[sharp phoenix]

i think rupture as a mechanic makes poseidon call much better

but i like being able to control my character properly in the call

i am also kinda new to the game so i can be objectively wrong

i like poseidon a lot more than ares

poseidon has good movement tech with the invelnerabily and with rupture it can stack up some very good damage

[stiff obsidian]

yeah ares call is dog 💩

[sharp phoenix]

for me zeus and poseidon are the two gods i wanna see more of whenever i get them

cos every zeus and poseidon kinda means just more damage

[stiff obsidian]

poseidon call is as good as you can move iwth it

can hit the same target 2-3 times i think

if u do it right

[sharp phoenix]

i can always get 2 hits with poseidon call, i would struggle for 3 tho i'm sure it's possible

i just think that zeus having jolted and poseidon having rupture means they are the two gods that scale upon themselves

like more zeus means more jolted and more poseidon means more rupture

in that order

jolted is for sure better

also drowning wave is crazy

and lightning rod

like the duo boons go hard af

[rustic vale]

more zeus doesn’t really make for more jolted, at least on rail

You’re probably maxing out on the frequency of application

[sharp phoenix]

i basically have only played sword so do not know about non sword applications

and on sword u do not want zeus attack or special

[rustic vale]

but for pos fs more knockback means more rupture procs

[stiff obsidian]

fs

false side

died to heros, wow im washed

[sharp phoenix]

i think zeus has so many boons that scale upon zeus boons

lkke double strike

and uh the thing tha hits bosses witha lightning bolt

with jolted

also zeus call

and lightning rod

insane dps from my experience at least

lightning rod is so nuts for me cos i love seeing zeus and artemis

so the duo boon is kinda frequent

all my takes are somewhat speedrun focussed given my teacher is a speedrunner

[stiff obsidian]

another trippy shot , why do i even take dio atp

thats like 20 in a row

[sharp phoenix]

why are you ever unhappy about trippy shot

it's so much damage

[stiff obsidian]

it isnt

[sharp phoenix]

who cares that it doesn't lodge

[stiff obsidian]

for me

[sharp phoenix]

rly?

i am intrigued as to how trippy shot could be bad?

the damage is crazy

[stiff obsidian]

not with ap2

you cant really build around it

[sharp phoenix]

what is ap?

[stiff obsidian]

aproval process

[sharp phoenix]

what does that mean?

[stiff obsidian]

heat option

[sharp phoenix]

i am very bad with namesw

[stiff obsidian]

crosses off the boons

[sharp phoenix]

that's surely very chill

trippy shot is the best cast

[stiff obsidian]

best is pushing it

[sharp phoenix]

imo dionysus has the best cast, a very good attack boon, the second best call and strong drink early is pretty good

[sharp phoenix]

what is better?

[stiff obsidian]

idk lol

[sharp phoenix]

trippy shot is so much damage

[latent moon]

i mean cast is build dependent

[sharp phoenix]

it's crazy

[latent moon]

aphrodite is best on hera, ares is best on achilles, poseidon is best on beo

[sharp phoenix]

from what i learned from alexis, even the aspects that benefit from lodging a cast still want trippy shot

[latent moon]

doesn't mean it's best

[sharp phoenix]

alexis said that trippy shot is best on beowulf

idk the rest

[latent moon]

"best"

[stiff obsidian]

in low heat ig cuz it can 1shot tart stuff but idk what else u would use trippyshot for

[latent moon]

it's like

highest damage potential not best on beo

[sharp phoenix]

alexis is a speedrunner tbf

[latent moon]

i am too

although he does way more than me and i haven't played in a while but nothing's changed lmao

[sharp phoenix]

wanna ghost me on an aspect i'm not good at (non sword)

[latent moon]

if you're willing to gamble on your build then dio beo is best but otherwise it's just not consistent at all and you need so much

[stiff obsidian]

whats ghosting

[latent moon]

compared to just flood shot into mirage

[latent moon]

not atm lmao

[sharp phoenix]

choosing options

basically

@latent moon choose an aspect for me to learn then

[stiff obsidian]

idm

go eris

[sharp phoenix]

is this u wanting to ghost me?

[stiff obsidian]

yea

[sharp phoenix]

nice

[jagged hamlet]

Is this "ghost" as in "ghostwriting"?

[sharp phoenix]

alexis and i come from the competitive pokemon community

[stiff obsidian]

i think ghost as in closely follow behind or somehting along those lines

[sharp phoenix]

where ghosting is a big issue

[stiff obsidian]

oh

[sharp phoenix]

can you call btw

[stiff obsidian]

oh no lol

[sharp phoenix]

it's chill if not i can stream and u can type

[stiff obsidian]

yea

[jagged hamlet]

I'm still quite lost on the etymology. Oh well

[stiff obsidian]

theres no vc here tho

[sharp phoenix]

i added u

i'll stream

u can type

i'll talk

don't be weird about my englishness tho

[stiff obsidian]

i was thinking more like ud ask what to do occasionally and id tell you lmao 🤣

idk if i can join stream rn

[sharp phoenix]

ah dw

is there a channel i can stream in here

[stiff obsidian]

no

tho they should add one

[sharp phoenix]

rip

what weapon is eris?

i'll let u know at most decisions

found it dw

it's gun

[stiff obsidian]

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yea

[sharp phoenix]

imma force zeus?

[stiff obsidian]

dont mind dio completely trolling me rn

[sharp phoenix]

do i force zeus?

[stiff obsidian]

yeah

[sharp phoenix]

cool

and take attack boon right

[stiff obsidian]

yea

what heat

also are you speedrunning or just regular run

[sharp phoenix]

regular run, i only speedrun sword

my gun is only 6 heat

i'm doing extreme measures 2 cos lernie is so free

and forced overtime 1 cos i wanna learn fater move patterns

[stiff obsidian]

do over time 2 then

[sharp phoenix]

i like ur thinking

i'lll turn off em

[stiff obsidian]

cuz you would have to learn it all over again when you go to 2

[sharp phoenix]

i like the idea

i'm doing just overtime 2 then

if i have no attack boon on the forced zeus

but uh

epic electic shot

[stiff obsidian]

do you have rolls

[sharp phoenix]

do i just take the electirc shot

i have rolls

i have maxed mirror

[stiff obsidian]

yea then roll for attack

[sharp phoenix]

coolio

epic on attack

u are goated

[stiff obsidian]

gun without an attack is rly bad

[sharp phoenix]

i forgot to change mirror settings btw

[stiff obsidian]

make sure you land in your specials for the boost

[sharp phoenix]

so i have high confidence and uh

the thing that doesn't give me more max health

[stiff obsidian]

like when you go thru rooms?

[sharp phoenix]

i have pom, health and erebus poseidon

i think i could do the erebus like 80% of the time

[sharp phoenix]

nah the starting max health

i have the speedrun settings on rn

lowkey on gun i could do erebus like 90% of the time

[stiff obsidian]

oh ok i misread

[sharp phoenix]

so idk what i pick

[stiff obsidian]

is this like chamber 3?

[sharp phoenix]

i think so ye

[stiff obsidian]

go for it then

[sharp phoenix]

sure

[stiff obsidian]

epic attack aswell

[sharp phoenix]

i did the erebus

flood shot

hydraulic might

sunken treasure

it's flood shot right?

or roll

i could take the tidal dash

[stiff obsidian]

hm

actually

take flood shot, you can get tdash later

and now youve opened up sea storm as well

[sharp phoenix]

i think i agree so ty

what does sea storm do

i just know that flood shot is a good cast

[stiff obsidian]

all poseidon boons also do lightning damage

so every dash would also do lightning

[sharp phoenix]

that's crazy

[stiff obsidian]

yea its insane

[sharp phoenix]

so now it's athena centaur heart or money

i think just athena right

[stiff obsidian]

athena if you want divine dash otherwise heart

cuz ur on high confidence

money if ur confident with ur hp

[sharp phoenix]

like i wouldn't hate divine dash

but i'm low heat

and it's boring to divine dash

so pick for me

[stiff obsidian]

yea that would also lock u out of pos dash

[sharp phoenix]

so heart?

[stiff obsidian]

yea

[sharp phoenix]

nice

i don't want the run to be free

which divine dash would do

[stiff obsidian]

i think tdash would make it even more free lol

cuz eris when it hits all the right boons just melts everything

can prolly play blindfolded

[sharp phoenix]

only room now is pom btw so i'm doing it

lightning strike or flood shot?

it was a quick room

[stiff obsidian]

atk ofc

[sharp phoenix]

i assume lightning strike

cool

forced gold room next so imma just do that

artemis on door

and shop

[rustic vale]

Shop for speed

[sharp phoenix]

hydralite that i don't need

night spindle cld be ok

but i have not used magenta yet

[stiff obsidian]

not needed save your money for shops

[sharp phoenix]

chimera jerky is meaningless- i have no special damage

i assumed so

[stiff obsidian]

how much money you got

well regardless i think you would still go artemis here i think

[sharp phoenix]

my game crashed

be back in a minute

i have a good laptop so confusing that it crashed

[stiff obsidian]

rip run?

[sharp phoenix]

ffs it didn't save anyting

from the run

pick another aspect to ghost me for then

[stiff obsidian]

😭

[sharp phoenix]

i was strong

also that is my second ever crash on this computer

i spent a lot on this laptop

[stiff obsidian]

run was going great as well

[sharp phoenix]

fr

pick something new so it doesn't seem like i lost progress

i have the blood to max anything i think

[stiff obsidian]

eris is the only aspect im good with

[sharp phoenix]

so doesn't matter if i haven't played it

pick somethign fun

idc if ur goood at it or not

[stiff obsidian]

hm

hestia

[sharp phoenix]

i have barely played anyting other than zag sword

what weapon is that?

[stiff obsidian]

another rail

plays very different

[sharp phoenix]

also lemme change my mirror to be not the speedrun settings

ite i maxed it

i had not unlocked it

so i have not played it

what is my starting keepsake?

i assume this weapon is shot, reload...

[rustic vale]

Shoot reload special to animation cancel the reload

[sharp phoenix]

that is a thing?

that's cool

special animation cancel

sounds fun

[rustic vale]

It lets you start moving again

[stiff obsidian]

you dont have to special

just dash

[rustic vale]

during the reload

[sharp phoenix]

what is my starting keepsake?

[stiff obsidian]

hmm

idk about unmodded

id still say aphro i guess

[sharp phoenix]

i assume it's not plume which is what is currently eqwuipped

[rustic vale]

https://youtu.be/2GH5OUk4__M?si=xLyblldrgdTBBdhR

[sharp phoenix]

oh ok cool

aphro on attack seems good given it's high base damage if i always reload

[stiff obsidian]

aphro is the highest % damage

[sharp phoenix]

i got not the attack

i got special, crush shot and uh

passion dash

i think i either take passion dash cos it's ok or roll

ur choice

[stiff obsidian]

roll for attack

[sharp phoenix]

ok

[stiff obsidian]

dam no attack twice in a row

lol

also

[sharp phoenix]

i still didn't get it lol

[stiff obsidian]

😭

[sharp phoenix]

flousrish

[stiff obsidian]

special ig

[sharp phoenix]

passion dash

life affirmation

i can roll agian

[stiff obsidian]

nah not worth it

[sharp phoenix]

passion dash is fine surely

[stiff obsidian]

special

[sharp phoenix]

ok

[stiff obsidian]

passion dash is isnt great but more importantly means you cant get tdash or hunterdash

also

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1500253812806389892/t7bwt5q.png?ex=69f7c3be&is=69f6723e&hm=9e7cf66f0e358904750e1cbed4438ee760d6e19dcd0677ae3b1a8b05105326b3&

craziest tart ive had

180 hp out of tart with 2 rolls and 3 goated boons + uc fodder

🤌

[sharp phoenix]

demeter or zeus on rooms, money on erebus

idk why i'm asking

[rustic vale]

Got vorime’d huh

[sharp phoenix]

it's so easily zeus

[stiff obsidian]

is it

[sharp phoenix]

is it not?

why would i not just zeus max?

[rustic vale]

dem gives a +% strike for you to actually start dealing damage

[sharp phoenix]

so what do i pick

[stiff obsidian]

oh AND. 2 poms on atk

[sharp phoenix]

i numbers picks for me ofc

[stiff obsidian]

dem like shackle says

he knows what hes doing

[sharp phoenix]

goddamn

first time i've actively picked demeter

but sure

[stiff obsidian]

i mean yea dem sucks but

2nd highest % damage

if the atk isnt atleast rare or higher i woulndt bother

[rustic vale]

to be fair this is like the only case where you would

aside from Hera

[sharp phoenix]

i am struggling with this manual reload stuff

also uh

frost strike rare

[stiff obsidian]

nice

[sharp phoenix]

snow burst rare

[stiff obsidian]

you can work with that

strike

[sharp phoenix]

nourished soul common

ok so attack boon?

[stiff obsidian]

yea you took dem to get the attack

beacuse you dont have an attack

[sharp phoenix]

my main issue is i never rly hit my first shot but i have to learn to hit that attack

[stiff obsidian]

it takes a while to get the reload -> shoot into muscle memory

[rustic vale]

is this with mouse? Fair enough

[stiff obsidian]

with mouse you just turn off attack at cursor

[stiff obsidian]

bruh choked so hard in phase 3

wouldve won

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1500261697074630666/1nfqjsb.png?ex=69f7cb16&is=69f67996&hm=78777b79d2e0048265ce8a7831d2c38176bf9ee8dffb99dede0d46919afc7f5e&

i did it again

made a savestate of this and then moved the file instead of copy

lost another savestate

[rustic vale]

Smartest high heat player btw

[chrome yoke]

how to get secret aspect for bow?

[rustic vale]

#h1-story-discussion message

[chrome yoke]

guys i feel like this is the run that i finnaly beat hades

[chrome yoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1464517887074107436/1500286312782237756/Screenshot_2026-05-02_180158.png?ex=69f7e202&is=69f69082&hm=f1e559540b815a970d627e433844dd4ad5d76e081fbf9780d60b5db6f55e6961&

alright here we go

wish me luck

alr guys second phase wish me even more luck

i died...

[stiff obsidian]

damn

[stiff obsidian]

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what do. u evengive up

[vast raven]

its just strong drink no?

[stiff obsidian]

roll and aid

do u not roll for that

[vast raven]

nah athena call is sick

ig if u have delta its like fine? but like strong drink feels like it'd be nothing

[stiff obsidian]

yea i thought the same

fair

call took 5 poms, shouldve sold

i just cant beat em4 without patty and a broken build

o actually i can and i die to overtime

still a throw

2 runs in a row died to p3

[chrome yoke]

any tips for beating hades in general

[tough ocean]

My friend lost their one and only death defy in tartarus then proceeded to get the Athena duo that makes you heal over time and then second try hades

Holy crap the shield is op lmao

[tough ocean]

Combat strategy is something you have to learn, but in terms of building your boon layout, my recommendation would be to be aware of what boons you need as prerequisites for secondary and duo boons, and also try to use primary boons that support your weapon. Don't take something like doom, which works well on low fire rate attacks, on your gun, for instance.

[chrome yoke]

alr thx

[tough ocean]

Just be aware of like, Zeus is flat damage. Aphrodite is high % mult. Ares is low firerate. Etc

[chrome yoke]

any good builds for aspect of chrion?

[tough ocean]

Oh yeah big time

Get Zeus on your special

It'll make every single shot shoot the lightning bolt

Dionysis works too

[chrome yoke]

so what just get the ligthing special for zues

[tough ocean]

Take a look at Zeus duos, find something you like

Idr builds enough to give like super good advice but you can always ask #h1-builds-and-combat

[chrome yoke]

i cant find duo boons to save my life gng

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1464517887074107436/1500355437659426926/Screenshot_2026-05-02_223638.png?ex=69f82263&is=69f6d0e3&hm=6ddf10098dcefde8db3fb8b59293cce09fea60c038334ea27232904425cd64f7&

anything good here?

[stiff obsidian]

chain shot is good

[chrome yoke]

on aspect of chrion?

[stiff obsidian]

nvm

relentless then

[chrome yoke]

woulding reletens volly be better

[stiff obsidian]

could take piercing for prophecty

[rustic vale]

so actually

You only get 1-2

[tough ocean]

Nooooo I was lied to

[rustic vale]

The internal cooldown for lightning bolts is 0.2s per enemy

[stiff obsidian]

shackle loves correcting ppl on this

🤣

[rustic vale]

well like for chiron it’s especially egregious

you think you’re getting 8 maybe even 12 lightning bolts

And you max out at like 2

[chrome yoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1464786675375800391/1500356275479773244/image.png?ex=69f8232b&is=69f6d1ab&hm=4300a68da2b77dea1b78406a96971143f17e1a72b25a105665d19f9028f61129&

[latent moon]

i remember someone removing the internal cooldown for it but they still said it was mid but idk how much i trust them with that lmao

[chrome yoke]

chain lighting could come be good here

[tough ocean]

Ok OK SURELY dionysis doesn't have an icd right

[rustic vale]

dio is fine

dio is actually really solid

[chrome yoke]

or thunder flourish?

[latent moon]

neither ideally if it's chiron but i guess you could take the attack lmao

or dash

[chrome yoke]

dio?

[rustic vale]

I’d take thunder dash here just because neither other option works well

[chrome yoke]

alr

[rustic vale]

Dionysus

[chrome yoke]

ahhh ok

what on dio then

his special

[rustic vale]

Yup

[tough ocean]

My dignity has melted, my innocence shattered

[rustic vale]

hangover works really well when you can just apply all your stacks with one special and aphrodite strike lets you find low tolerance to max out at 8 stacks instead

[chrome yoke]

what happend gng

[latent moon]

if it makes you feel better, chiron was never good to begin with lmfao

[rustic vale]

and then all you really need to do is put all your poms on the special

[tough ocean]

I was wrong about Zeus special

[latent moon]

plenty of other aspects to mess around with!

[chrome yoke]

dude aphros call is broken

[latent moon]

it's alright

[rustic vale]

Aphro call

It’s one of the calls in game

[tough ocean]

I'm gonna go back to hades 2 where there are absolutely zero internal cooldowns

[chrome yoke]

hades 2 easier then hades 1 ngl

[rustic vale]

Going back to a game with exactly like 2 less cooldowns than H1

You just drop lightning bolts, and chain lightning/support fire

[chrome yoke]

should i take tempest strike from mr god of the seas

its on epic

[rustic vale]

should be decent enough for this run

[chrome yoke]

alr

[tough ocean]

In hades 2 I can use the strongest aspect ||pan|| with poseidon and never need to worry about internal cooldowns because I'm using the strongest aspect in the game ||pan||

[stiff obsidian]

get poseidon on special

for chiron

easily the most fun one

its like the only aspect you get to use pos atk/special on

[chrome yoke]

for now i took art special for now

if i get something better im switching

[stiff obsidian]

i want to try a chiron pos run

[iron bramble]

This statement should be considered a cognito hazard.

[rustic vale]

In Hades 1 you can use the strongest aspect in the game (Beowulf) and never have to worry about itc because you’re using beowulf

[chrome yoke]

which weapon is that aspect for

[old bluff]

Shield

[chrome yoke]

just deleted tisiphone

[chrome yoke]

im asumming its the secret aspect

[old bluff]

Ye

[chrome yoke]

k

what does it do?

[stiff obsidian]

i started a run and its just a black screen

[chrome yoke]

i can get it i have guan yu unlocked

is it wothit

[stiff obsidian]

now it just crasdhed

[chrome yoke]

lol

[stiff obsidian]

[chrome yoke]

also am i the only one who likes playing both hades 1 and 2 on pc

[old bluff]

It lets you make really strong cast builds

Does a lotttttt of damage

[chrome yoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1464786675375800391/1500360681457848400/Screenshot_2026-05-02_225723.png?ex=69f82745&is=69f6d5c5&hm=3f1fec8bab2b43e1df576e203635f58afaf411a50c0c79f29f0eb2205f7a183b&

idk if any of these are good

[old bluff]

All of those are good lol

[chrome yoke]

which one is best for the build im using rn

[stiff obsidian]

yo zeus in tart we winning

[chrome yoke]

i can tell you what im using

any way which one i get

[stiff obsidian]

also goddamn controller is a cheat code for bow lmao

[old bluff]

Ye

[stiff obsidian]

its so braindead easy to just powershot powershot infinitely

like wt

[old bluff]

Prob jolted

[stiff obsidian]

ff

i used to struggle so much on keyboard

so many desk slams

[chrome yoke]

i do just fine

i like m&k better then controller

on any game

more freedom

[chrome yoke]

also with the right finger placment you can do that on pc as well

[stiff obsidian]

you dont understand

[chrome yoke]

as somone who used to be a controller glazer i do

[rustic vale]

[chrome yoke]

but switching to pc opend my mind

[stiff obsidian]

yea zagbow 50 soon ✌️

[chrome yoke]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1464786675375800391/1500361922590277632/Screenshot_2026-05-02_230159.png?ex=69f8286d&is=69f6d6ed&hm=1c1e779c9cea35ba01e14a9567a01b11eaf2b3a523e849c93a6770d69d8e50c6&

god damn

i keep getting zues

[stiff obsidian]

[chrome yoke]

i was thinking maybe the cast or double strike

ohhh my next one is aphro

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1464786675375800391/1500362712704876654/Screenshot_2026-05-02_230538.png?ex=69f8292a&is=69f6d7aa&hm=24c941799326f454673700d02e1262a08672048c8078a219df1db80a1021903f&

[rustic vale]

With the right finger placement you can check your brain at the door as easily as controller with no finger placement whatsoever?

I’ve played both

Pc needs leagues more from you

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1500362962555240478/b9w9w28.png?ex=69f82965&is=69f6d7e5&hm=0f4ac2de755653d584828752f9dab0b2ae5ae6719258ea2d9c7ccd0f20154f88&

[chrome yoke]

another thing m&k is just more comfromt for me really

i like it better

it takes skill and brain power

[rustic vale]

I think if I tried to play half as aggresively as I did on controller I’d get carpal tunnel within 30 minutes

[stiff obsidian]

with 2k hours in kbm and like 5 hours on controller, controller is miles ahead for bow

[rustic vale]

aggressively*

[stiff obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/i-just-hit-the-jackpot-gameboyjones-hakari-green-screen-black-guy-gif-7781853818237960786

[chrome yoke]

like i said i also just have more comfort with it

[stiff obsidian]

let me find the clip

[rustic vale]

They are also more comfortable with mouse normally if the 2000 hours weren’t clear

Bow is just not the same

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1217113690445185024/1266649866357051442/suck.mp4?ex=69f799dd&is=69f6485d&hm=8bcdef521184e3e9a1983ddd35be3fe7a8fdaa059b55545845d78695fc39d2db&

💀

[chrome yoke]

its all the same for me honestly

[chrome yoke]

is that you on m&k

[stiff obsidian]

yes 😭

[chrome yoke]

yea i dont have that problem...

im more acurate on m&k then i am on controller

[stiff obsidian]

ur forced to be accurate on controller because it practically autoaims

[chrome yoke]

idfk what to tell you man

[rustic vale]

I think I’d actually get carpal tunnel doing this on kbm

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1192630956448817193/2024010419473301-C7D8C4153CC9802713604F54C53304E0.mp4?ex=69f7ed22&is=69f69ba2&hm=ae30f438a97caef8852cfd9c0db282c7c834bc5d5be3a904218ba7f0be1e0670&

[chrome yoke]

it does that for m and k to

am i just built dif

[chrome yoke]

oh my god

[stiff obsidian]

fr its so easyyyy

it feels so good

before this run i was just shooting skelly for like 5 mins

cuz its satisfying

[rustic vale]

It’s just snappy and you just need to have your thumb in the right general area

[rustic vale]

You see what I’m saying

And this was back when my bow pb was only like 9:54

[chrome yoke]

im just shocked by the build

[stiff obsidian]

the build is just aphro attack

unless im missing something

[rustic vale]

Hydraulic Might/zag bow/ fiery presence are why the first few hits are so massive

Actually does fiery presence even prok here

Or do I have the bloodstone in before it matters

[rustic vale]

It was a really front-loaded build back when I was significantly worse at the game than I am now tbh

[chrome yoke]

i feel so small😭

[rustic vale]

You could probably do this too

[chrome yoke]

gng im going to h2

[rustic vale]

Like you just need to start aphro and hit poseidon

for hydraulic might

[chrome yoke]

yea

[rustic vale]

and have a half-decent hammer

like I don’t think this even had twin shot it was probably perfect shot

[chrome yoke]

like ive beat chronos like 3 or 4 times and i havent beat hades once😭

why is chronos so much easier

[rustic vale]

I’ve heard a lot of really weird things about the difficulty of each respective game

I’ve just stuck to H1

I’ll probbaly be like a cranky boomer if I switch over

“Why doesn’t this work like this from H1”

[chrome yoke]

its honestly not to bad

there are a lot of dif things

[rustic vale]

Ok but you’re switching between games early

[chrome yoke]

wdm

[rustic vale]

only 4 clears on Chronos and none on Hades vs like I’m really entrenched in H1

I think I’m more likely to notice the things that I really enjoy about H1 if they get changed whatsoever yk

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1500367014852689960/qf00m8b.png?ex=69f82d2b&is=69f6dbab&hm=58f2ea80ece5a6bfadecf2f0a2a5eb6ff9dded1b054daed160dec45fe3b451ad&

cant make this up

[rustic vale]

dang

[stiff obsidian]

got both the hammers and rare jolt as well

[rustic vale]

sweet

[old bluff]

holy build

[stiff obsidian]

poms lacking

and also skill

[rustic vale]

Should’ve been 64

[stiff obsidian]

i will likely die to em4 lmao

[chrome yoke]

any way im going to bed lol

good night guys

[stiff obsidian]

gn

yea i died to first phase lol

just got stun locked by the sneak

but 2 volleys phases him

unfortunate

[rustic vale]

Wait you had em4 on for 32 heat

[stiff obsidian]

Yea

[twilit lodge]

Join us

We turned shackle into a well item

[odd gale]

Hi guys

I need help

Idk what to do and what to upgrade

[rancid linden]

I'm still fairly new to the game, but what exactly you wanting to figure out?

[odd gale]

Like idk what weapon and what aspect to get

Oh and should I use nectar on the same god or not??

[rancid linden]

Best bet is to unlock all weapons and get to know them all. Whichever weapon you feel more comfortable using, aim for upgrading that one first

[odd gale]

Yeah but the aspect is what idk

And how to get the secret aspect and secret keepsake

[rancid linden]

From what I have gathered, one nectar is good enough to get the keepsake of whoever you gave to (except for hades) but if you want the secret keepsakes, you need Ambrosia, and can only be given to some of the non-god characters (dusa/skully/Meg are some of them) and they need more nectar as well I believe.
For the aspects, I don't know what's needed to unlock them tbh

[odd gale]

Oh ok thank you so much

[rancid linden]

I'm still learning myself xD how far have you gotten so far?

[odd gale]

I’ve only gotten to the final boss once

Oh also when you get to the final boss regardless if you win or not you unlock something new which is nice

I won’t tell you what it is tho but it is really good

[rancid linden]

I haven't gotten that far lol, I'm stuck in the temple of styx lol

[odd gale]

What is that??

Sorry I don’t really know the names

[rancid linden]

Fourth level, after Elysium. Bunch of rats and poison lol

[odd gale]

Oh yeah that one is really annoying

[rancid linden]

Right? I'm getting used to using the cure function lol

[odd gale]

I still don’t know what the cure thing does

I had a build that just helped me go through it all easily

[stray minnow]

Asphodel has the best music. Almost makes me forget how hard the zone is

[rancid linden]

It cures the poison on you, the pool refreshes after a few seconds

[rustic vale]

Sword: nemesis (main functionality is gained at level 1, subsequents improve it)
Spear: achilles (solid at level 1, but vastly improves with more more levels)
Shield: zeus (main functionality at level 1)
Bow: hera (lvl 1 functionality) zag (needs more levels, also isn’t as crazy absurd but is less input heavy)
Fists: demeter (needs more levels)
Rail: eris (always good) or hestia (hestia needs lots of levels)

[rustic vale]

The way to get the hidden aspects is written down in this message, and pinned in this channel

#h1-story-discussion message

[odd gale]

Yooo thank you so much

I’m not playing rn but I’ll try these

[rotund hazel]

Whats the first companion i should try and get

[rustic vale]

I was about to say megs but it lowkey blows the rest out of the water

So it might set the bar a bit high

[rotund hazel]

What about bouldy

[rustic vale]

should be fine

It really is

The main thing it has going for it are the additional resource generation

[tepid plover]

bouldy is my fav

[slim glen]

I just did the barge of death thing for the first time

Oh my god that was so bad

[rustic vale]

It doesn’t get better

There will never be a point in the game where you see barge and go “damn could’ve been a worse option”

[gritty topaz]

When i first played this game in June 2025 for like 1hour or two i quit it from dying twice there😭

[slim glen]

I just thought the bull was one boss

He just ran away half health

They can run away?

[slim glen]

Oh god 😭😭😭

[gritty topaz]

its not the last boss of elysium

Its just the bull that does that

[slim glen]

Why did he run away

Ohh ok

So hes not the boss?

[gritty topaz]

Find out

[slim glen]

Great

😭😭

[gritty topaz]

Elysiums boss fight is lowk the hardest Imo

Atleast for me but im low heat

[rustic vale]

Only he can

Call it a tactical retreat

[slim glen]

Oh tuff

Do i see him again or

[gritty topaz]

Yes

[slim glen]

Is he nice?..

[gritty topaz]

No

Hes going to be very mean

Calling you names

[slim glen]

Im really scared

[gritty topaz]

Atleast sometimes

[slim glen]

Ill find out and update back

🥰

Wow

That was somthing

[rustic vale]

Yeah he’s pretty chill

[gritty topaz]

Calls u short one tho

Have some good chats tho

[rustic vale]

I guess? But he does respect zagreus a bunch and he is very polite

You can very very easily contrast him with his teammate Theseus

[gritty topaz]

The Insult outweights the politeness

Holy the credits have crazy music too

[rustic vale]

What?

Have we played the same Hades

Asterius is a bro

[gritty topaz]

Short one is too much...

nothing can fix this.

[latent moon]

is it bc you're also short irl

[rustic vale]

[gritty topaz]

No but words hurt my zagreus more than physical pain

[rustic vale]

Zagreus is not that weak willed

He would’ve stopped far before elysium if so

[gritty topaz]

Hes hurt but he has discipline

[lavish sorrel]

idk for all we know the zagreus in this universe might be controlled by a ff player

[rustic vale]

The zag of someone who returned the game within the 2 hour Steam refund window

[lavish sorrel]

"How many HADES runs can I beat and get a refund?"

banger video idea

[gritty topaz]

Cant imagine myself beating one without extra death thingies

Always abusing the keepsake for +100 hp res on hades

[rustic vale]

What’s the record for ff rn

Was it 17-18 minutes rta or am I heavily overestimating

[lavish sorrel]

17:41, still by nitro

[rustic vale]

So it probably maxes out at like 7 wins

[lavish sorrel]

I somehow doubt you're getting more than 6 even with great rng

the first greece segment takes actual millenia and the 9 others also take a minute+ each

[rustic vale]

Forgot about the greece segments

[rustic vale]

It’s 100% achievable you just need some more time in the game

Like at your stage in the game there’s definitely a ton of room to refine your combat skills, build skills and just general decision that would make it significantly easier to achieve that

[gritty topaz]

I could beat a run no deaths but im lowk impatient so i just greed and lose atleast one death defiance

[gritty topaz]

But i cant imagine this with no mirror upgrades etc

[rustic vale]

No mirror upgrades at all is a different story

If you’re talking about routine inspection you usually avoid turning it on in any capacity until like 45-50 heat

[gritty topaz]

i have no idea what that is im heat 2 on all weapons

[rustic vale]

The heat option that removes your mirror?

Oh you were talking about fresh file

[gritty topaz]

Yeah

That sounds rough to i only use the limited time one and the one that makes the fury sisters together

Chat hades has a lock And ive beaten the main story when can i give him nectar

[jagged hamlet]

Need to beat the game a bunch more times

[gritty topaz]

Oh god

[rugged yacht]

pretty sure i js no hit charon so that was cool

[fossil sage]

whats like the best companion, cuz i mostly see megs on so is that the best?

[tepid plover]

I love bouldy

[gritty topaz]

I have 40 hours in this game since starting 10 days ago i need help

[tepid plover]

40 hrs in 10 days? Thats only 4 hrs per day, I think youre fine, no help needed

[gritty topaz]

Thats with school and two training in a day

And other games

[tepid plover]

Yeah, youre totally fine

[edgy pilot]

anyone else here not like flurry shot with the bow? I just feel like the charging it up is a way easier rhythm to fight out of, it messes with my flow

[lavish sorrel]

force of habit

flurry is quite a powerful hammer on all three bows that can get it, just need to learn how to use it ||and learn to pseudotech||

[gritty topaz]

I havent really enjoyed games after yakuza 0 nothing really was good but now finally hades got me aswell

I get like 1 good game a year then the rest is suffering

[raw plover]

Hot take Lernie is as cute as Cerberus

[small kettle]

I just did thanatos 7:55😭😭

[native nacelle]

Using a God's Keepsake Guarantees a visit from that God,
But if you run into that God again, Will the %Chance of Increased Rarity still be in effect?

[native nacelle]

Zagreus us suffering... plz halp... 🩸

[raw herald]

While you have the keepsake equipped yes

[native nacelle]

Thanks king

[rustic vale]

Btw the game doesn’t tell you this but every boon/item/keepsake that boosts the rare chance also boosts your epic odds by 10% and your duo/legendary odds by 10%

[rustic vale]

Yes

The aoe, speed and damage are perfect to hit every minibosses and boss with the right set-up very consistently

[untold depot]

Hades being an answer on Jeopardy just now lol

[native nacelle]

@untold depot Really ? lol Nice

Like, Literally the game. or like a Mythology question ?

[untold depot]

The game

[native nacelle]

hell yeah lol

[dense ivy]

Yeah, I saw that. I'm upset that no one knew it...

[rotund hazel]

How do i get the reach the epilogue achievement

[small kettle]

The max amount of heat where you will still earn bounties at is 20 right?

[rustic vale]

Yep

[gritty topaz]

I just tried borrowing some money from my beloved merchant in tartarus and dude absolutely obliterated me

[mint coral]

Classic

Fwiw fighting him in tart is usually the best

You get way more time to use the rewards

If you only wanna fight him and win, pray it shows up in Elysium instead

His stats don't change

[tacit ember]

guys you would not believe this

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1394734947180482570/1501305538041086193/image.png?ex=69fb973d&is=69fa45bd&hm=041b5f71acb84899d8e423ef93f6c2a14a34a99c7ac2d5ce52139b464f1de368&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1103&height=567

[iron bramble]

Tragic

[sleek bison]

just wondering is the bow the most op in the game ?

[lavish sorrel]

shield / rail / bow each have at least one top aspect for any given discipline (except fresh file), yeah

if I had to give arguments for "the most overpowered", that probably goes to shield

[sleek bison]

Really since I'm still very freshly in the game (4days) and i find a lot more success with the bow and long range combat especially in the first two stages

[lavish sorrel]

shield, you can hold down the attack button and nothing coming from that direction can harm you

[sleek bison]

Wait what

[lavish sorrel]

it's a damn shield, what do you expect

[sleek bison]

I definitely didn't know that fact i thought it only charges the attack

[lavish sorrel]

||people when they learn that a shield can be used as a shield ||

(dw you're not alone it happens frequently)

[sleek bison]

Well how am i supposed to know this game has no parry system

I thought shield won't have that ability

New information unlocked

[lavish sorrel]

Dw about it, I'm messing around. If I came across as rude, sorry!

[sleek bison]

No not at all with this info i will try the shield again

Any recommendations for god preferences?

[tacit ember]

you can build the base shield similarly to base sword

cant go wrong with arti or aphro on the attack

[lavish sorrel]

the main damage-hammer you'd be looking for would be charged shot

[sleek bison]

Well i never built shield before most my runs were bow

[lavish sorrel]

that's the main caveat with the shields, they're rather hammer-dependent to have damage, and their selection is limited to 1 or 2 good hammers depending on shield-aspect.

[sleek bison]

I'm just used to long range and aiming mechanisms

[tacit ember]

ok

[sleek bison]

Okay then i will put that in mind

[tacit ember]

idk why you are telling me that since i just told you what gods to use

[sleek bison]

Since u said i can build it like base sword which is a thing i didn't do either

Me see bow me get bow

[rustic vale]

“Bow” and “long range combat” in the same sentence

there really is no good option for emojis for “I found this amusing” huh

it’s either like full send laughing or really weak half smile

[sleek bison]

Compared to sword shield and that glove and spear

[rustic vale]

I think Spear might actually play more long ranged than bow ngl

On avg across all its aspects

[sleek bison]

Not really since it's mostly it's Q that has long range

And tbh i like bow Q since well it stops many attacks that i hate

[mint coral]

I am misremembering or doesn't the small tutorial each weapon gets when equipped mention the fact that the shield, in fact, blocks

Eh I can see how it can be missed lol

"hold attack to defend (release to bullrush"

[sleek bison]

Well tbh i didn't even read that part i was just what happens when i hold oh charge cool and moved on

[mint coral]

[rustic vale]

Idk it’s definitely me being speedpilled but I usually play bow super close to enemies since all the best hammers for bow incentivise you too, while spear can actually make use of the range due to it being immediate so you can shoot them off from further off

and then look at like Hades/Guan-Yu being special focused and achilles being a castpect

versus like zag/hera/rama all playing close and chiron does too if you use it as God intended (as a discount zag-bow)

[sleek bison]

Hmmmm for few messages here ig I'm playing the game totally wrong

No wonder I'm still losing in elyseme

[rustic vale]

Eh I’m a speedrun and I only play a teeny amount of high heat but I think our levels of play might be worlds apart anyhow like

You should be able to get through the main story playing however you want

story

have no clue how I mispelled it that bad

[sleek bison]

When u say speedrun how long u usually spend?

I mean time

And other question like how many stages does it have

[rustic vale]

8-10 minutes on the in-game timer

which is what is used for like 90% of speedrun categories for Hades

[sleek bison]

8-10 minutes for the whole game???

[rustic vale]

1 escape attempt but yeah

[rustic vale]

4

[sleek bison]

I spend 10 minutes in each stage holy

[sleek bison]

Oh so it's a short game i thought it will be longer

[rustic vale]

Real-time is more like 20-30 minutes but that’s because decision making uses a lot more time than an actual combat ngl

[rustic vale]

tbf you aren’t done when you clear one escape attempt

[vast raven]

well, kinda not really, still tons of other story once you escape

[rustic vale]

like

It’s a roguelite

[sleek bison]

Oh i see

[rustic vale]

To even clear the main story you need 10 wins

[sleek bison]

Ohhh now we are talking now that's what i want

I like spending my night long hours playing it i find it really fun i was kinda disappointed when u said only 4 stages

[rustic vale]

As you get faster the difference between your in-game time and your real time gets way larger ngl

[sleek bison]

Which is good news to me

[rustic vale]

once you escape you also unlock a “heat” system which lets you turn on optional modifiers to start getting the boss drops again

[sleek bison]

Well I'm more into the fun and spending time so i have no issue with it

[rustic vale]

like titans blood/diamonds/ambrosia

I think my main save file has something like 480 wins and 700-800 escape attempts

[sleek bison]

OHHHHHHHHHH i thought i will never see those again so i can upgrade my weapons too amazing

Let me check mine for a second

Well apparently i only have 35 escaping attempts i thought i had way much more tbh

[rustic vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795659377755422742/1501357009776414984/IMG_3840.png?ex=69fbc72c&is=69fa75ac&hm=abe1b1f81b2ae4b875c27c1cda41467fab58d49899cd28e8186bc7739cf67be8&

Might have overestimated

[rustic vale]

I know mine are probably significantly lower than they should be because I’ve used give-up to start a run with the same seed more than a couple times

[sleek bison]

Okay you know what i never thought about this one

I just accept my death and try again 💀

[rustic vale]

I’m playing on my switch so I don’t have the speedrun modpack and I’m not recording my runs so like seeding isn’t an issue for me and sometimes you just have a really nice start

and you want to keep the first 3-5 rooms the same then rng manip the seed

so it goes way differently after that point

[sleek bison]

Tbh i just open pc open hades zone out for hours and enjoy it i didn't think much about most of what u are doing

I guess everyone enjoys the game differently you enjoy making the monsters suffer and those monsters enjoy making me suffer

Kinda like souls games

[twilit lodge]

Sub7:43 when

[rotund hazel]

Can i get multiple bounty rewards from heat 6?

It doesnt seem to reset

[glossy prawn]

Everything is so expensive in Hades lol

You need so much diamonds

[restive pelican]

guys i just called a saytr sack a grover sack

[viscid marsh]

Anyone know a way to summon thanatos more often? Trying to get his companiom

[mint coral]

Pray

[autumn jewel]

idk thanatos almost always show up in my runs

[tepid plover]

you cant

[viscid marsh]

Can i not? I thought he was like the olympians and you see him each run

[tepid plover]

no, hes rng

[viscid marsh]

Oh i had no idea

[gritty topaz]

I hate this game now every other game feels dull

[mighty mural]

I thought it was ambrosia

[clever ridge]

i think he does show up a little more frequently after you max your relationship with him or i'm just really lucky.

[mighty mural]

I have maxed out his bond

But I have 3 uses to summon him

[rustic vale]

Just lucky

[rustic vale]

They mean him showing up in runs