#h1-discussion

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rustic vale
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30-40 from prophecies

pulsar laurel
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Right

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I rly should check that

tough bramble
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Ahw barely above 20 mins

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Im on a 5 escape streak

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Heat 5 here i go

pearl moon
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can anyone help me out I still can't beat hades starting to incorporate more specials and more casts but I can't beat him if anyone's willing to guide me through that is

rustic vale
pearl moon
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spear

rustic vale
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Any particular aspect of the spear?

pearl moon
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I got zagreus and Achilles

rustic vale
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Achilles will be more helpful

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Do you know the main builds for achilles?

pearl moon
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actually no

rustic vale
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Since achilles is typically cast build or dashstriking or both

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Actually the two main builds do a lot of both

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either way the #1 achilles hammer is flurry jab

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it makes every dashstrike you do have a standing strike happen immediately after

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so you double up on base damage output

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both builds aim for it

pearl moon
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so I've been playing the game wrong spamming clicks with DoTs

rustic vale
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not wrong persay?

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just like

pearl moon
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with triple jab + extending jab

rustic vale
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not optimally since I’m handing you more refined builds

rustic vale
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And you can do well with like hangover strike achilles or merciful end achilles they just aren’t the build I’m going to give you

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1st build: hunting blades
artemis strike to abuse achilles massive additive damage modifier with the crit chance. ares slicing shot for your cast, and then you hit hunting blades to make your slicing shot a couple magnitudes more vakuable

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other good secondary boons here are hunters mark from artemis for crit chaining, pressure points to let your blades naturally crit and start crit chains themselves

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black metal and engulfing vortex from ares make your casts really go way harder too

pearl moon
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so what to do with my keepsake

pulsar laurel
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For eris aspect, should I use targeting system?

rustic vale
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and then if you happen across poseidon, tidal dash from poseidon is really solid damage and then you can find mirage shot

pulsar laurel
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30% damage buff seems perfect but idk if cluster bomb is more worthwhile

rustic vale
tough bramble
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Is it possibls to have artemis on special and then another god?

pulsar laurel
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Cluster bomb or that

rustic vale
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cluster bomb more useful

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hades damage is additive

pulsar laurel
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Oh

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Thats perfect

rustic vale
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so it’s +75% from eris +30% from targetting system

pulsar laurel
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So 150% assuming all 5 land

rustic vale
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No

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That’s not what I meann

pulsar laurel
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And even if not 4/5 is still a net gain

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Wdym?

rustic vale
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targetting system and eris are binary buffs

pulsar laurel
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Ahhh

rustic vale
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They’re either on or off they don’t stac

pulsar laurel
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So just +30% damage

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While cluster does more

rustic vale
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but what I mean is the +% damage from eris is additive with +% from targetting

pulsar laurel
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Oh

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So its worse than it looks

rustic vale
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yes

pulsar laurel
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Gotcha

rustic vale
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targetting system is still very good just

pulsar laurel
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Cluster bomb it is then

rustic vale
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not clsuter bomb

pearl moon
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so what should my starting keep sake be

pulsar laurel
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Cluster bomb synergizes better with jolting no

rustic vale
pearl moon
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so artemis first

rustic vale
pulsar laurel
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Oh gotcha

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Then again targetting visor wont do much for it either

rustic vale
# pearl moon so artemis first

I mean with achilles a fair amount of the time you start poseidon for tidal dash and then decide between the hunting blades build I just told you about and lightning phalanx (what I haven’t told you about yet) based on who you find in tartarus

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since achilles is really flexible

pearl moon
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ohhh ok so poseidon first

tough bramble
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A friend told me it was, i said no

rustic vale
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you can’t have 2 gods on special at once

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if that’s what you’re asking

tough bramble
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Have two gods effects on specials

old bluff
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You can get a special replace

tough bramble
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Gotcha

old bluff
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But not two effects at once

pearl moon
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welp f me I still don't have poseidon's boon

tough bramble
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Thanks for confirming

rustic vale
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since I haven’t really told you about lightning phalanx yet you can’t really abuse the flexibility and I kind of don’t have the time atm to

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explain it

lavish sorrel
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"Weapons like" you must mean "almost every aspect except a select few

rustic vale
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Starting artemis is just as good just

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yeah

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look for flurry jab, serrated point is discount flurry jab (don’t mix them together though) and otherwise triple and extending

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triple and extending both pop off as second hammers as well with flurry jab

pulsar laurel
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Does peer pressure have bad interactions with the hangover attack?

rustic vale
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yes

pulsar laurel
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Thank you

rustic vale
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You lose pom value

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since peer pressure can overwrite your base strike damage

pulsar laurel
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Is hangover the only status like that

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I just remember its the most notorious one

rustic vale
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it’s the only status that deals damage continuously like that

pulsar laurel
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Ohh

rustic vale
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Doom just goes with the first value hit iirc

pulsar laurel
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Thats cool

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I was wondering how it worked

rustic vale
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hangover dynamically changes all stacks based on the most recent application source

pearl moon
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welp got poseidons boon and then got tidal dash

rustic vale
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fire

pulsar laurel
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Also didnt realize how dope cluster bombs were for eris specifically

rustic vale
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now you just need slicing shot from eris

pulsar laurel
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I have to actively dodge to not get the buff

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I got explosive shot, no slicing

rustic vale
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was talking to the other guy

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Blitztanker

pulsar laurel
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Its hard to tell mb

rustic vale
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Juggling two convos at once will do that

rustic vale
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jolted good

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that’s essentially all you need for the other build

lavish sorrel
rustic vale
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now you have both builds and can start with tidal dash and figure out the rest of the build based on who you find in tartarus and forcing in the other god you need in asphodel

pearl moon
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I also made the mistake of taking cast for artemis earlier it was either special cast or crit chance so mb guess runs over but I just finished fighting the bombers got artemis attack

rustic vale
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eh

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run isn’t voer

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can sell cast later

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or exchange

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or just do a strike build

autumn jewel
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rail is just clockets gaming

tough bramble
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Whats the times for each level for a sub 20 approximately?

rustic vale
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uhhh

lavish sorrel
rustic vale
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Probably 2.5x the sub8 ones

tough bramble
pearl moon
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pom attack or dash

rustic vale
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Dash

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artemis strike gets 0 value

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tidal dash gets massive value

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from poms

lavish sorrel
tough bramble
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Styx fastest

pearl moon
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yikes bad hammer... breaching skewer serrated point or quick spin?

lavish sorrel
rustic vale
tough bramble
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Alright, ill use those as guidelines roughly

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Sub 20 shouldnt be too hard i think

pearl moon
rustic vale
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serrated

tough bramble
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Thx

rustic vale
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It’s like really discount flurry jab but it is a massive dash strike damage buff

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oh sidenote but you want strike, dashstrike, cast damage and cast stones from chaos

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maybe that was self explainitory

pearl moon
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what to look for in hermes

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and I got another poseidon boon for sale in charon alongside said hermes

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or don't buy hermes at all

rustic vale
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hyper sprint -> rush delivery for massive damage, greatest reflex for mobility and some eztra damage, and then if all else fails swift cast

rustic vale
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There’s a reason he’s limited to 2 boons

pearl moon
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so... choices are side hustle greatest haste or an epic flurry cast

lavish sorrel
rustic vale
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flurry cast gud

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greatest haste depends on rarity

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but can be decent extra damage with rush delivery

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and lets you scale with ichors

pearl moon
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I got a duo artemis poseidon boon Rare special or... Rare any knock away boons also deal rupture

rustic vale
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do you still have artemis cast

pearl moon
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yep

rustic vale
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razor shoals

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on hunting blades it’d be mirage shot but it’s far less valuable without

pearl moon
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should I sell cast if it's sellable then go ares keepsake just beat alecto

rustic vale
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Yes

rustic vale
pearl moon
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dang sold it

rustic vale
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sold cast? Gud

pearl moon
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2nd hermes this chamber

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all commons greatest reflex swift strike or side hustle though pretty obvious wanted to make sure

rustic vale
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greatest

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extea dashes helps make up for dash range down

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and it a dps ip

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up

pearl moon
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got ares cast

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dang now this is boring

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either key shop or nectar

rustic vale
rustic vale
pearl moon
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yeah went shop 250 obols pom darkness or zeus boon

rustic vale
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if you haven’t yet, you should grab any random god for your 4th olympian

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zeus works

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he has a good call anyhow

pearl moon
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specials call or near miss

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all epic

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went with call

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for pom went with cast

pulsar laurel
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Just to check

rustic vale
pulsar laurel
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Selling a duo boon doesnt get rid of other boons right

rustic vale
rustic vale
pulsar laurel
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Ty

rustic vale
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You’re rig

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Right

pearl moon
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and now I'm out of defiances

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f me

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I'm only at ashpodel going up to elysium

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thoughts on this trial of the gods or shop

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I got no coins

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243

tough bramble
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Not even close to 20 this time

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Didnt have the damage and bad luck in styx

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Did keep the streak going tho. 6 in a row now

pearl moon
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welp ded

pulsar laurel
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I love that winning runs tend to be 3 rly good boons and the goofiest dash ability possible

rustic vale
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Rough

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Serrated point tends to be really glass cannony

tough bramble
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Need 2 more wins for credits

pulsar laurel
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There are always 2 boons you picked because they were the least worst option

tough bramble
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Yeah thats fair

pulsar laurel
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I just had a cracked run with dio railgun, cluster bomb zeus jolt, and athena iframe calling

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So or course athena never once offered the dash, and I had to use aphrodite's glitter glide

rustic vale
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I meannn

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it should be fairly easy to force athena dash by filling the rest of your cores

pulsar laurel
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It should have yeah

rustic vale
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90% of the time you’ll see the dash as an option if your strike special and cast are filled

pulsar laurel
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But 3 separate athena boon picks and nothing

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So I girlboss'd my way through the streak

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Also damn the floodgates open once you beat hades for the first time

rustic vale
pulsar laurel
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On a 3 streak rn

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Havent repeated a single wep yet

rustic vale
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That’s what heat is forzagmad

pulsar laurel
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Im clearing out every wep first

rustic vale
rustic vale
pulsar laurel
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I think it was yeah

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Cast was open

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Still tho rly unlucky

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Only reason I snagged athena tbh

rustic vale
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Oh that’d take it from 1/1000 to like 1/8

pulsar laurel
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Oh also got the fountain buff perk in tartarus

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So I got free massive dps off that

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Hades just sorta blew up

rustic vale
pulsar laurel
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Smtn had to give lmao

rustic vale
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so still like bad but not nearly as astronomically unlucky

pulsar laurel
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I otherwise had amazing luck

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I think I got 6 centaur hearts before elysium

rustic vale
pulsar laurel
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Cluster bombs on eris are so enjoyable

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Oh also had athena calling

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Not usually my thing but its prolly the best possible one I could have gotten

rustic vale
pulsar laurel
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Thats good tho

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Im kinda bad still

rustic vale
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speedrunner mentality over here

pulsar laurel
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Then again I got to hades with all 3 death defiances

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Im ngl smtn like opened in my head

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My movement is so different pre hades kill

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Now I'm all over the room

rustic vale
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Roguelites tend to eventually click

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For most people it’s within the first 1-3 Hades fights

rustic vale
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There’s a reason it’s a very common speed aspect and somehow a miracle that my rail pb isn’t with it

pulsar laurel
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You used hestia?

rustic vale
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no

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zag rail lmao

pulsar laurel
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Its just so safe tbh

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What, lmao

rustic vale
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My overall pb rn

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Beat my previous pb my 3 seconds

pulsar laurel
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Zag rail of all things

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John Wick over here

rustic vale
pulsar laurel
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The npcs confuse me

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Some of them leave after giving nectar, others leave after convo

rustic vale
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wdym by that

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like

pulsar laurel
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Like I noticed dusa leaves if you talk with her

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So I have to give nectar first

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But for than he leaves after nectar

rustic vale
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It’s been a long yime since I was gifting

pulsar laurel
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Its gotten me reloading rooms at times

rustic vale
# pulsar laurel John Wick over here

It was really stupid too because I was just trying to sub9 with it and then I got to styx and went “wait this is sub8 able” and then I got to the Hades fight and was like “wait this couldbeat my pb”

pulsar laurel
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3 seconds too

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Thats massive for speedrunners

rustic vale
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It’s more massive when you’re getting like sub6 times but yeah the fact that it was zag rail of all rail aspects

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I still have a lot to improve

pulsar laurel
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Next time your pb is gonna be from zag fists

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Just wait and see

rustic vale
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there’s no way

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like

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At least zag rail is a strong rnough aspect with spreadfire

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where it makes sense

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that it was possible

pulsar laurel
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Was just kidding

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Its be funny tho

rustic vale
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The astronomical luck I’d need to make up for the mechanical difference in weapons

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and my own skill with them

pulsar laurel
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But but but

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20% dodge chance

rustic vale
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15%

pearl moon
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@rustic vale so in summary for the hunting blades get poseidon dash then as many artemis crit buffs as you can then ares cast

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correct?

rustic vale
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uhhh

pulsar laurel
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Im ngl I forgot I had the feather thing

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Wait so its additive

rustic vale
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pos dash start lets you either go into hunting blades or lightning phalanx

pulsar laurel
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So is the than butterfly bad

rustic vale
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yea

pearl moon
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oh

rustic vale
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than butterfly is massive opportunity cost

pearl moon
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ok

pulsar laurel
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Lmfao

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I take it acorn is solid

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Spearpoint too tbh

rustic vale
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if you’re just strictly doing hunting blades you may as well take artemis to start and hope to find ares in tartarus

pulsar laurel
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As I get a bit better I prefer spearpoint to the other mechanical trinkets

rustic vale
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poseidon is still absurdly strong but anything to find hunting blades earlier tbh/ give you more opportunities for it

pulsar laurel
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Hunting blades?

rustic vale
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Aresxartemis duo

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makes slicing shot home

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on enemies

pulsar laurel
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That seems jacked

rustic vale
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It is pretty strong on the castpects

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and still strong on regular aspects you just miss out on massive innate damage buffs

pulsar laurel
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Such as what?

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The nyx keepsake?

rustic vale
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achilles

pulsar laurel
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Are the braces that good

rustic vale
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+150% strike or cast damage for next 4 strikes or casts after raging rush

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aspects not keepsakes

pulsar laurel
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Oooh gotcha

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I havent unlocked a 4th for em

rustic vale
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castpects are the aspect for each weapon that buffs or incorporates casting

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like pos sword achilles spear hidden shield hera bow talos fists and technically eris rail

rustic vale
pulsar laurel
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Hmm

forest lynx
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Hi guys, I’m desperate!! I’m missing the Achilles and Patroclus trophy to get the platinum and I’ve been playing for days but the prophecy won’t trigger! I’ve maxed out my bond with all the Olympian gods, with all the residents even! I’ve given everyone Ambrosia, even Nyx, etc. but what am I supposed to do?? I’ve tried suicide runs but it seems that if I die before Elysium Achilles doesn’t say anything, he doesn’t even have the (!) message, and sometimes Patroclus just tells me to leave… I can’t take it anymore.

pulsar laurel
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Havent dabbled with those yet

rustic vale
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are you waiting on Nyx to find the documents for you to change achilles contract

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or have Achilles and Patty not given you the message to find his contract yet

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whether you die prior to elysium shouldn’t matter, you might just be dependent on patty dialogue before you can make further progress with achilles and then achilles can ask you to find his contract and then you can ask nyx to help you out with findingnit

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and then you can purchase their contract

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baddaboom baddabing quest complete

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If only Hades didn’t pull dialogue from an rng pool

plush needle
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Hello

forest lynx
# rustic vale Have you gone through the whole storyline with patty and achilles?

Maybe I haven’t completed the story… I got to the point where Achilles tells Zagreus that he shouldn’t have told Patroclus about his private matters… then I went back to Patroclus and he just sent me away 🤣 I don’t have any contract to look for, and Nyx hasn’t said anything to me about it either. But if I die before Elysium, Achilles never gives me any new messages. I think I need to visit Patroclus multiple times and unlock bits of the story, but it’s frustrating because sometimes he doesn’t say anything or I don’t even find him… Thanks anyway for the tips.

rustic vale
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😔

brisk trail
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Does hades 1 has an android mobile port or anyway to play it on android?

rustic vale
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It currently doesn’t have a version for ios either

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you cannot play Hades on a phone flat-out atm

brisk trail
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Thanks

lunar plume
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I think I got hit/killed by the vase from the hades fight for the first time. Is that thing instant death or does it just a huge amount of damage?

rustic vale
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They deal 30 damage but count as traps so with HS on (from the pact of punishment) they deal 150

pulsar laurel
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Triple jab suuucks

lunar plume
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oh i actually have. it was my choice for heat 1 because you get rarely hit by traps anyway. Too bad it ruined my run this time

pulsar laurel
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Its a 30 minute run tbf

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Eventually you will step on a trap

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Even the worlds first full heat run had someone step in the lava

lunar plume
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out of curiosity, how much heat is full?

mint coral
mint coral
lunar plume
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i thought it would be the easiest cause traps are easy to avoid most of the time :D

rustic vale
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It’s pretty good if you have flurry jab and even without flurry jab it still has more use than like half the spear hammers

pulsar laurel
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I couldnt get flurry

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Triplle on its own was rough

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Its got some blind spots at close range

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Rly annoyed me in elysium

fallen lodge
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stubborn roots or exposed what do i take

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nvm

rustic vale
# fallen lodge nvm

Does your weapon really care about backstabs all that much and is your deflect source really reliable

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otherwise just take stubborn roots becaus ethat’s a free 405 obols right there

fallen lodge
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i just won

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i didnt really
matter

fallen lodge
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unhealthy fixation or parting shot i dont know what to take

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nvm

lunar plume
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I started a heat 2 run the first time. Shouldnt I get titan blood and such things or did I understand that wrong?

rustic vale
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you can’t skip it

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so the game will count it as 1 heat even though you’re at 2

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so I’m going to assume you just didn’t finish a 1 heat run with that weapon yet

lunar plume
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oooh, so I can only skip the no heat run

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That's good to know

rustic vale
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0 heat is tracked differently from 1-20

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I didn’t mention it earlier because it’s a little nicher

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But you can always go back to 0 heat if you haven’t done 0 heat on that weapon yet

lunar plume
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I got the Heat 1 rewards on every wepon despite not finishing the normal run before, so I assumed it would always be the case. So I guess I started a heat 2 run for nothing (expect the standard rewards)

hazy path
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Did the devs ever comment on why they give you a small amount of time to clear the thesus boss with the Plume keepsake?

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well not small time but

rustic vale
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The theseus fight can be incredibly short

hazy path
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boss fights are the ones i need more experience with plume speed running

rustic vale
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I mean

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If you’re speedrunning 99/100 times plume isn’t the answer

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999/1000 times even

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Am willing to even wager 9999/10000 times

lavish sorrel
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also it can be equipped in aspho if you got the whole build in tart except hermes, to open RD (and if you're using stygian, bad news)

tough bramble
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Streak is still alive 🙂
7 now

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Is it 10 x defeat hades for credits regardless?

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Have 7 runs in a row under 30 minutes , might pick up speedrunning, idk

vast raven
tough bramble
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I am sticking to this build that works and thats less fun

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But i dont want to break the streak

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Decisionsmelthink

lunar plume
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I just fought Charon for the first time. Who would have thought that he is the hardest boss in the game after all. shadefear

amber crest
lunar plume
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although every boss is probably the hardest if you fight it for the first time ^^

rustic vale
lunar plume
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and he hits really really hard if you dont know whats coming shadeembarassed

rustic vale
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So it’s far harder in tartarus than elysium

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much more rewarding though

lunar plume
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got him in asphodel ^^ usually i avoid charons shop, but i had no choice this time (I would have if i wouldnt forget every time that i can change the room one time)

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is there any reason to defeat him (for story) besides the obvious coins you get?

amber crest
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You should almost always plan to use the shop

amber crest
lunar plume
rustic vale
rustic vale
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To avoid shops

lunar plume
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I used to try buying the diamond/blood in styx, which I usually do if I get there. But that mindset comes from before I even knew about the heat system, maybe I could rethink that now

amber crest
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I usually don’t got the money

lunar plume
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the chambers in Styx usually give a good amount of coins, it usually works out for me. I do spend a few coins here and there on the way, but really not much.

amber crest
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Well you avoid Charon shops (WHY BTW) so it checks out

lunar plume
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Also why spend money on a boon if you can get it for free at the other door ^^ (expect you have the money to buy more than one thing)

rustic vale
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or the choice to pick up a boon instead of being forced into a heart

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there’s a lot of added value from taking shops

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Getting your god pool together the way you want it to early is massive

lunar plume
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ofc only if you have the money at that time

rustic vale
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that’s what deep pockets is for

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it’s fairly easy to manage your obols

amber crest
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That still doesn’t excuse not taking mid shop

lunar plume
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I already explained why I did that

amber crest
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What?

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Drat am I dyslexic

young lark
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everyone knows rogue likes are about playing the 1 correct way

lunar plume
worn nova
amber crest
amber crest
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Nvm I just have dementia

rustic vale
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we’re very used to just giving advice coming fromt he speedrunning and high heat perspectives

amber crest
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I was more so just wondering why they were ignoring maboi Charon

young lark
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when I was trying to get low times i watched one of the speedruns using Zeus eris and there was a good 10 hour chunk where I just used that build over and over

amber crest
rustic vale
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Burn on

young lark
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yeah I switched to poseidon Beowulf after that and it's more fun

rustic vale
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I avoid playing beowulf properly like the plague

amber crest
rustic vale
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My shield pb is bugowulf with charged flight

young lark
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but it's so fast

rustic vale
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a special build

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ywk is fast

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everything else

amber crest
rustic vale
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true

amber crest
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Idk it just feels clunky and weird

young lark
#

it is both of those things

rustic vale
amber crest
#

Idk why, but I can use all the weapons well
EXCEPT shield

young lark
#

only weapon I never liked was spear

amber crest
amber crest
young lark
#

I don't remember I would have to boot up and see

rustic vale
#

my shield ob is pretty respectable

young lark
#

i never got that fast but I think I got a sub 12 or sub 10 or something

rustic vale
#

regardless of how I used bugowulf shield

lunar plume
#

To this day I can say i didnt even looked up any builds or sth like that, I just pick what feels right to me (or what the Fates want, but theres not much left anymore luckily ^^)

amber crest
young lark
#

no idea

amber crest
rustic vale
amber crest
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Thought so

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I’ve only physically met one other person with a sub 10 run

lunar plume
rustic vale
#

I need to meet u in person so I can flex my sub 8 in person fr fr

amber crest
rustic vale
amber crest
rustic vale
#

Now it’s time to bring it down even fartherrrrr

lunar plume
#

are we talking about sub 8 minutes here?

rustic vale
#

yes

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I have
7:43 (spreadfire zagrail)
7:46 (pretty standard zag bow build)

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Which is still like

lunar plume
#

now i have to look up speedrun.com to see how good that actually is :D

latent moon
#

By my irl friends

rustic vale
#

far better than average person
leagues away from top speedrunners

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I’d be interested to know where it stacks up compared to individual runners who have submitted

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like

latent moon
#

Like normal people? Lmfao

rustic vale
#

if you removed all the runs aside from pbs

lunar plume
#

Probably better than anything i will ever achieve in this game

latent moon
#

Oh individual runner like that

amber crest
#

Shackle is most definitely in the top 1% of players I think

latent moon
#

I think if you submit your run it actually tells tou

amber crest
#

In terms of speedruns

latent moon
#

Like I remember back then for me it showed like

rustic vale
#

I don’t have any recordings for my runs 😔

latent moon
#

18th and 48th or something

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Oh rip

amber crest
#

Like a sub 9 run for me (8:57 Demeter fists) is probably in the top 3% if not more

vast raven
#

yah it tells your individual placement idr if it has the % of tho

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(well not really bc of it letting duplicate runners for having different aspects)

amber crest
latent moon
#

Having sub10 already puts you like top 95% prob tbh

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Most people don't get sub10

amber crest
rustic vale
#

top 95th percentile

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trust

latent moon
#

The only people who ever consider sub10 are like people in this server or pass by a sub10 post on Reddit

latent moon
#

I'm very tired

amber crest
#

Hi very tired, I’m Nugget

latent moon
#

Hi Nugget

rustic vale
#

Maybe that’s a

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quest for tonight

latent moon
#

You can guestimate like

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Top 75 prob lmfao

amber crest
#

Between 440th and 450th

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For confirmed runs

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Unmodded, unseeded

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But take it with a grain of salt, I’m just looking at the leaderboard

vast raven
#

^ that does include duplicate runners as well as src doesnt show just the best run for a given player for the boards instead its all individual aspect pbs

amber crest
#

Ah yeah

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Welp, Shackle you’re gonna have to figure it out idk

vast raven
#

id probably like -50 or so from that then

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or maybe a little more idk

latent moon
#

Ocke and zyru prob submitted 24 each for all aspects so that's 48 runs down lmfao

vast raven
#

oh yeah then def more

#

closer to like

#

-100 then?

latent moon
#

Maybe

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There could just be a lot of individual runners who submit 1 run

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Most people don't do all aspects

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Just get a sub6 tbh it'll be easier to count

vast raven
#

so true

rustic vale
#

New plan acquired

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plus is a lot more set in stone if I can say I’m like roughly top30 players or smthing

#

idk the scale of the operation here

vast raven
#

ik im like 4 runs, 3 of which are sub 7:2x

latent moon
#

If it's unmodded I've submitted 0 lol

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Actually maybe 1

#

Might have a 7:02

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Idk if I've ever submitted that one but I played super badly that I got clowned by nnevic and jazz for 20 mins in a vod review

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20 mins in like 2 chambers

rustic vale
#

real question is how do I capture switch

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Mmm

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I left my controller for my computer with my little brother when I left for university by accident

latent moon
#

HDMI it to a larger screen and phone record it lol

rustic vale
#

So I can’t play on my laptop

latent moon
#

Learn kbm duh

rustic vale
#

ew

#

unholy ungodly way to play Hades

latent moon
#

Lmfao

#

It's not that bad

vast raven
#

kbm is fine!

#

it just like

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takes a few (10s') of hours

rustic vale
vast raven
polar aspen
#

Gods I love seeing Patroclus happy ^^

#

Ahh and Asterion is finally making witty talk with zagreus instead of Theseus boasting all the time lol

pulsar laurel
#

I'm embarrassed to admit this

#

But I'm taking hits from theseus

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Having a hard time dodging his hits solo

amber crest
#

And dash

prime jetty
#

I like Zeus call for that fight, cuz it hits him through his stupid shield lol. But not really a pro player and obv u might be doing not Zeus depending on build

vast raven
#

zeus is generally a good call, i would generally consider calls seperate from a build and more so as a utility item

#

like u still can do setups based around call spam still

#

but for probably like 90% of runs their main purpose is for more dps or for some other effect (like i-frames)

hazy path
#

I’ve seen people solo the bosses in under a minute but I’m not skilled enough to do that yet.

pulsar laurel
#

Cux I swear he turtles so hard

amber crest
#

Oh he does

pulsar laurel
#

I try to dash behind and hit but he 180s a lot

rustic vale
#

20 seconds is pretty consistent if you know what you’re doing and have your build together

#

Idk how long they give you for plume

hazy path
#

Ah I see. Maybe I should use Crits on Zag fist.

#

Demeter Cast is my go to also.

amber crest
#

That’s almost never a good idea

#

Well, play however you want, but it’s missing out of a LOT of damage

#

Unless you’re talking about special, then go ham

mint coral
#

just roll heavy knuckle

rustic vale
#

if you’re going to heavy knuckle just play spreadfire zagrail

fading inlet
#

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I WAS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO CLOSE

#

😢

#

my best run yet!

amber crest
amber crest
#

Just means your chances of victory are higher next time

hazy path
amber crest
#

There are two main paths you can take with the fists:
ZAP
ME

hazy path
#

I’m pretty much very bad knowledge wise on builds. Following an outdated list.

amber crest
#

and no I’m not telling you to zap me

hazy path
amber crest
#

It stands for
Zeus attack, Aphrodite/Artemis special and Poseidon dash

mint coral
amber crest
#

If you want more survivability then swap out Poseidon for Athena, but that’s a lot less damage

#

Alternatively, and more fun imo, you go for ME (Merciful End)

#

Ares and Athena duo boon

hazy path
fading inlet
#

made it to dad 4 times now, gotta farther in the fight each time, its sooooo defeating when you lose 😢

amber crest
amber crest
amber crest
hazy path
amber crest
#

OH and there’s also a hangover build with Dionysus attack and Aphrodite special, as well as ares revenge boon

fading inlet
#

might go Stygius again, i just love it more then the others

amber crest
fading inlet
amber crest
#

That’s good

fading inlet
#

zagreus is Lvl 2.

amber crest
hazy path
amber crest
fading inlet
#

i dont know any builds 🙂 been running throug as much as i can.

amber crest
fading inlet
#

didnt get artmis on that last run though thats what hurt me the most.

hazy path
#

Somenoobdying I think was her name. I haven’t played in a while

amber crest
fading inlet
#

demeter, dio, athena and posidieon

hazy path
amber crest
amber crest
fading inlet
#

still running the hourglass, what if i dont get athena?

hazy path
#

Never made the connection I’m so dumb lmaoo

mint coral
#

also I'm a dude lol

#

people come and go and here I remain eternal

fading inlet
#

ahhhh got athena dash, cast or special in the starting room

#

i love the deflect dash

amber crest
hazy path
amber crest
amber crest
#

Like actual gameplay

#

We can mention it of course

hazy path
#

oh yeah let me not bring it up mb

fading inlet
#

ugh, zues is in the pool,m i hope i get his special then

amber crest
#

Oh no it’s fine, I’m just saying even if you did play it you’re not allowed to spoil anything anyways

mint coral
#

his cast is nice

#

or call

amber crest
hazy path
amber crest
#

Good luck

fading inlet
#

got the cast.

#

POSIDIEN? ughhhhhhhhh my least favorite.

amber crest
#

His dash is goated

#

But don’t take anything else

fading inlet
#

attack, special, ocean's bounty.

amber crest
#

Not even close

mint coral
#

huge catch incoming

fading inlet
#

got level 2 cast, moving to another athena.

#

attack, blinding attack ,brillrent riposte

tribal dirge
#

how yall feel about my boons? feels like i had bad rolls except for that chaos lol

vast raven
ancient creek
#

Just feel like announcing that I beat the main story for the first time today. Credits achieved!

#

The work continues. Now on to the epilogue

fading inlet
#

133 hp with skelly left for dad, im so screwed 😢

rustic vale
#

uhhhh

#

aside from that

#

looks a little questionable to me

pulsar laurel
#

Floodgates open after that tbh

#

My first win led to a 3 streak

#

Game becomes much easier

#

Because you got better

ancient creek
#

Nice! I think I got up to 5 wins before I got bad boon combos and lost it. Didn't help that Hermes commented on the lost streak lol

pulsar laurel
#

I rly have to see the dialogue for that lmao

#

Oh btw

#

Try to always start a run with at least 1 nectar

#

The 3 npc rooms are randomly generated and you need to meet each more than 5 times to open their quests

#

I think I only saw sisyphus 3 times acrosd 14 runs

ancient creek
#

I just got to talk to bouldy a couple runs ago when I started gifting nectar more consistently to him. I try to never drain my nectar supply unless it's a rare npc or first time

pulsar laurel
#

Try to have at least 1

#

Its kind of weird but sisyphus feels like the rarest npc to me

#

I've had more meetings with patrocles

tough bramble
#

Hades was a mini roadblock for me

#

Now hes the easiest part of the run

#

(Up until heat 6, cant say for higher heats)

amber crest
#

Once you learn to do something once, the second time is much easier

solemn mango
amber crest
tough bramble
#

How do you do the bouldy quest anyway?

#

I can give bouldy nectar but that doesnt seem to do anything besides a minor buff

amber crest
#

Unless you want the plush, then give it to Sisyphus himself

tough bramble
#

I want the companion

#

Sysyphus is maxed out but im not getting the ambrosia option

solemn mango
tough bramble
#

Anything i can do? Rng?

amber crest
tough bramble
#

Okay

deft canyon
#

U know u are Cooked when Charon starts showing his beat Playlist

amber crest
#

Yup

keen rock
pulsar laurel
amber crest
#

Idk then

tough bramble
#

Credits

#

8 win streak although the final one was not really a win

lunar plume
#

woah, suddenly the contractor got a lot of expensive stuff. guess i dont have to "worry" about not being able to spend gems anytime soon 😄

pearl moon
#

dang been having more success in h2 than h1 I still can't beat hades

amber crest
#

Idk I found h2 harder

#

At least from what I saw

near heron
#

What's the easiest legendary boons to get?

near heron
amber crest
#

Why?

amber crest
#

You don’t even need Artemis core boons for it

near heron
amber crest
#

You’ll get that naturally as you play the game more

near heron
#

I'm almost at 50 clears 😭

amber crest
#

But play a bit of Artemis and you should get it eventually

near heron
#

I'm addicted

amber crest
near heron
#

This is the first game I'm trying to 100% , so I can finally stop being addicted to it

amber crest
harsh scroll
#

I really wanna buy Hades 2 but I still haven't finished my 100% Hell Mode file here

pulsar laurel
#

Hey uh

#

How do I check if a hammer overwrites another

vast raven
fading inlet
#

5 dad fights now, 5 losses 😭

#

i forgot to switch my keepsake at the start, had skelly the entire time.

tough bramble
#

I really want h2 as well but i only beat hades 10 times so far

undone frost
#

When’s hades 3 coming out

latent moon
#

Tomorrow

vague fossil
#

aphrodite kinda bad ngl

lunar plume
#

yes, finally my 3rd hades win. I could really need that morale boost after having one of my worst runs before

astral yacht
#

I have a question about how keepsakes work

#

if I put on a god's keepsake and then see the god on a 2 door exit, if I take the other door, do I lose the "see this god" bonus ?

#

like I want the god, but not as much as I want the mid shop (or a hammer or something)

#

if I don't take the god there, will I still be guarenteed a chance to see it next?

latent moon
latent moon
rustic vale
#

you can easily verify this by looking at the little circle underneath your keepsake, it’ll be there if the keepsakes “force boon effect” is still active and only goes away when you pick up a boon from them

astral yacht
#

ok, I wasn't sure if the circle underneath the keepsake simply indicated "increased rarity chance on"

#

thanks

rustic vale
#

The circle pretty much always indicated consumable effects

#

like acorn uses

#

or whether or not you’re still meeting the timeframe for plume

lilac cargo
vague fossil
rustic vale
vague fossil
turbid meteor
#

After getting the epilogue is there more hades story i should check out ? I havent 100%d all prophecies for example. But im already addicted to Hades 2 😮‍💨

amber crest
latent moon
#

Should use her more lmao

#

Also weak is pretty decent

#

Not flashy but still helpful

south heron
#

hey i need help to settle a debate which is better attack for gantlets Demeter aspect zeus or ares?

vast raven
latent moon
#

With good rng ares attack is better but Zeus is better for consistency

#

Depends what you want lmao

#

Ares attack -> merciful end really, not just ares attack by itself

#

Duo reliant with strict reqs vs finding jolted lol

south heron
#

if we are talking on only attack boon

#

no jolted or impending doom or dir misfortune

#

just pure attack boon

latent moon
#

Honestly no clue given how unrealistic the situation is lmao

#

Maybe ares I guess since it gets more value earlier in Tartarus due to lower hp pools so you go a bit faster

south heron
#

i always see zuse boon as

#

just go all zuse or it wont hold much

#

but ares he has good combo with the other boons

latent moon
#

Well "all Zeus" is kinda just jolted

#

And after.that since you don't have anything better to do with the other Zeus boons (other than call), go for legendary bc might as well

south heron
#

true

latent moon
south heron
#

nah

#

there is cast

latent moon
#

On dem fists?

#

Kinda pointless lmao

south heron
#

i mean overall

latent moon
#

Well that wasn't the argument

south heron
#

not just fists

#

oh he just thinks that zuse is just so strong as a boon for most

latent moon
#

But either way, ares only use cast is merciful end and hunting blades

#

Zeus is much more splashable

#

Mainly call

south heron
#

true

latent moon
#

But the attack is good on a lot of aspects

#

Rail, fists, kinda swords

#

Lightning phalanx for the castpects

#

Decent duos too

south heron
#

but it wont be your go to if you have attack dmg boost boons

#

i never saw zuse boon consistent like the others in terms of making combos

latent moon
#

Ares isn't consistent either

#

Zeus has lightning reflexes, call, vengeance

#

The fact that it can combo into jolted is just really good

#

Ares kinda just has like

#

Vengeance which is kinda a stretch lmao

#

Zeus has better duos too with lightning phalanx, rod, sea storm if you can open it, scintillating feast is decent

#

Oh smaie

#

Smair

#

That's a big one

south heron
#

i see

polar aspen
#

Aphrodite and Dionysus have a little back and forth, and then she gives me curse of longing as well which is definitively better with my moons LOL

#

My attack and special are both curse

polar aspen
#

God these deaths get more and more ridiculous

#

"In his great hurry to explore the country-side, the hapless-footed Prince steps on the peel of a most-exotic sallow-colored fruit, and tumbles backward with such sudden, violent force that you-know-what occurs."

latent moon
#

my bad

pastel igloo
#

Why is it that my run lasts the longest when I’m absent-minded autopilot

amber crest
sharp badge
#

You don't stress about losing, and your average is better than your worried state.

amber crest
#

And this game can be put down to “dash strike strike dash repeat till you win”

pastel igloo
#

After a while it’s all muscle memory

amber crest
near heron
#

How do I reach the epilogue 🙁

#

Already maxed out zeus, Poseidon,Athena,ares.

amber crest
#

Max out more

near heron
#

Artemis, aphrodite, demeter are locked at last heart. Hermes is also locked but not at last heart, I should max out dionysus

sharp badge
#

In general you can exhaust dialogue until you get a written objective expressed by dialogue and the list of fates.

near heron
near heron
#

Does killing hades with his keepsake count as using an Olympian's call against them?(Asking for steam achievement)

indigo badge
#

nope, has to specifically be in a god trial

near heron
#

Ok thanks

near heron
#

Which god's aid fills the fastest?

amber crest
#

All fill the same speed

near heron
#

Ok thanks

near heron
#

Only 3 more achievements and I'm done being addicted to this game

near heron
#

What should I do to trigger the epilogue? Max out every relationship?

amber crest
#

Not all of them, but most

near heron
#

How many exactly?

#

Already maxed out 4

autumn jewel
#

6

#

(including hermes)
-# hermes needs 9 hearts

near heron
#

His relationship level is locked 🫨

#

I already completed his quest

mint coral
near heron
#

Man what is his quest

mint coral
#

Also Demeter counts as one of the 6 at her lock

mint coral
near heron
near heron
#

I used hades keepsake on his boss fight, him helping us when we are fighting against him is pretty funny to think about

mint coral
#

"FATHER!"
"I'm right here boy"

harsh scroll
#

Using any god's aid while fighting them is pretty funny

void vigil
#

there is an achievement for that. bad call

pulsar laurel
mint coral
#

?

harsh scroll
#

You need a max gauge to trigger the funny but I don't remember no tiers

mint coral
#

Also most calls have 4 bars

#

Only exceptions being Artemis (5) and dad (2)

harsh scroll
#

I remember fighting Dad with Aphro call and Smoldering Air and him getting pissed was comedy gold

near heron
#

Thanks guys, finally 100%d hades

mint coral
#

Got the epilogue?

mint coral
#

Guess I never checked

amber crest
near heron
#

I could barely beat 16 heat with the gun(did it for skelly's 2nd prize)

near heron
mint coral
#

Nice

near heron
mint coral
#

Are you getting the third skelly statue

amber crest
near heron
mint coral
near heron
#

Nah, I gotta delete it. I'm addicted 😭

mint coral
#

Despite everything I still don't have 100% zaglol

near heron
#

Thank you

near heron
indigo badge
mint coral
#

Nah I def can get them all

vast raven
mint coral
#

i just don't want to lmfao

amber crest
near heron
amber crest
indigo badge
near heron
#

Like who tf thinks up that they want to reach 30% damage buff with pierced butterfly

amber crest
near heron
#

Also there's hades 2

amber crest
#

At least beat 20 heat

#

That’s the end of the bounties

near heron
#

What happens after 20?

vast raven
#

you dont gain more bounties (its just more darkness)

near heron
amber crest
#

Nah, it’s just to limit the amount of resources you can get from one weapon

near heron
#

It's a single player game, so that doesn't make much sense

amber crest
#

It incentivises the use of other weapons

near heron
#

All the weapons are pretty enjoyable

amber crest
#

Agreed

#

Except the shield

#

I hate that thing

tough bramble
#

New fastest time

pulsar laurel
#

I got really lucky

#

Greater haste 40% + damage buff off speed bonus

mint coral
#

No hyper sprint 😔

tough bramble
mint coral
#

Wait thunder flourish chiron

#

Naur

#

(zeus lightning bolts have an internal cooldown of 0.2s and chiron hits that cooldown and only like 2 bolts deal dmg) @tough bramble

tough bramble
#

Was i supposed to not pick any specials?

mint coral
#

you had conc volley, personally I would gambled on picking aphro's special lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

Pos special is not a baaad option either, he somehow has the 2nd highest special % and you open sea storm

#

Still deal with the internal cooldown but is nice

tough bramble
#

Had pom blossom equipped just to see what i would get

#

Not disagreeing btw

tough bramble
#

@mint coral making progress speed wise

mint coral
#

Gaming

rustic vale
#

like

#

there’s no image restrictions for that channel

tough bramble
#

Okay lol

rustic vale
#

so you can upload the files directly with no loophole jumping

tough bramble
#

Sorrymelsmile

rustic vale
jolly lantern
#

I lowkey hate using the spear so much

tough bramble
jolly lantern
#

Also my first ever win is also with them

tough bramble
#

Havent even tried them one run

jolly lantern
tough bramble
lunar plume
#

Just got the triple dash strike upgrade for the spear. I think that is my most favorite hammer upgrade for the spear, it feels pretty strong zaggrin

jolly lantern
#

The spin doesn’t feel worth using

#

Takes too long to charge

#

Can’t move during charge

lunar plume
#

I always try to stay near spawning enemies and greet them with the spin attack :D but otherwise yeah, i rarely use it

lunar plume
tough bramble
#

It was a goal earlier this week to get a sub 20

#

Have 4 in a row now

#

😂

turbid meteor
#

I was so close to doing the butterfly achievement then my game crashed 🥲

#

I thought itd save my last chamber but it restarted the run

mint coral
sweet gale
#

yo i just beat the game in 16 mins and 29 milliseconds

#

Gilgamesh fists

rustic vale
#

Nice

lunar plume
#

I think I accidently made a "melee" bow with the hammers :D Lower range and slow charge, lets see how that works out in the end

turbid meteor
mint coral
lunar plume
mint coral
#

As you've seen, some of the best hammers want you to stick to closer distances

#

Twin/triple/point blank/explosive

#

Twin/perfect are the * where is not fully melee but still closer than what you would expect of a bow

lunar plume
#

so with "all" you meant the best builds ^^

#

btw it worked really well. I think it was the first time ever I didnt die at Hades.

mint coral
#

The one bow that really wants to play at range is chiron

#

All the other bows much prefer mid/close range

#

Sniper shot doesn't exist tizomg

rustic vale
mighty terrace
#

im ngl the sword def feels the weakest out of all the weapons, maybe mainly cuz most of the hammers suck

prime jetty
#

Xd

rustic vale
dim musk
#

OMG

#

I ACTUALLY DID IT

#

32 HEAT NICE

#

that took a decent bit

lament pulsar
#

the one time i need thanatos to show up he doesbnt