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why didn't you google it?

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the wiki is good

tepid plover
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But yeah gotta gift enough to the companion owner

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Then do their favor

tepid plover
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tepid plover
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We should've migrated before h2 came out, seems like we're staying there forever now

tepid plover
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Wikigg? Idk, anything but fandom

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unreal lotus
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Alr

tepid plover
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Yup

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fandom like spams ads

tepid plover
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At least that anti fandom extension exists

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So is not that bad

oak harness
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I didn't know that existed

tepid plover
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You can put anti before fandom in any link, and it will take you to it

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The extension automatically does it

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Hades Wiki

Keepsakes are items that can be equipped to obtain some sort of benefit during a run. They are acquired by giving Nectar to various characters for the first time. Zagreus can equip Keepsakes from the display case in the Courtyard.
Things to note about using Keepsakes:

Once a keepsake has been equipped and Zagreus has left the House of Hades, th...

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Dammit bot won't let me

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Just anti before fandom

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Like that

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On the top of the page it will say about the extension

rustic vale
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There’s so much Hades misinformation online I would not trust chatgpt to answer a basic question on Hades lmao

lavish sorrel
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I did a ff run with chatgpt one time

yeah no it knows basically nothing

rustic vale
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The wiki isn’t 100% accurate, and reddit and gaming journals exist like

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šŸ—æ

unreal lotus
lavish sorrel
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speedcord 😌

rustic vale
unreal lotus
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Also What's speed cord?

rustic vale
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The Hades speedrun discord

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The wiki is also like

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not half bad

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rustic vale
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It’s only incorrect on like 2% of information

tepid talon
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hiyo im playing this games again

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im trying hell mode and i think this is tough but then someone else i talk to say they up to heat level like 40 haha

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im like oh man

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but i get these a lot as casual gamer i never min maxed any game

rustic vale
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You’re supposed to grow and get better at the game over time

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The more you play, the less difficult the earlier heats get and then you start aiming higher and higher

tepid talon
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i hope so!

rustic vale
# tepid talon i hope so!

Also if you stay around here and ask questions, we can help with pretty much every aspect of gameplay

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Building, mechanical use, in run decision making

tepid talon
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i am trying the dianosys hangover a lot with overflowing cup but it doesn't seem to build very good right now

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but im pretty early on in game too

rustic vale
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It’s not exactly a predominant build on any weapons but you can certainly build it well if you’re aiming for like dionysus strike on fists or dio special on chiron atm

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Typically you also want aphrodite in there for low tolerance and then to pom the hell out of your hangover source

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Newbie here, got my first 2 escapes recently with God Mode but I feel like I’m not actually good at the game and I just happened to get insanely OP builds. I want to get better at building the right boons, does anyone have a good guide for this that they’d personally recommend? I would love some kind of a flow chart that starts off with a god keepsake and gives me some direction for what to pick

rustic vale
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There is one website that has a lot of builds ranging from decent-meta

tepid talon
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ohh aphroditi ok thanks

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thats a tip

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i may use

rustic vale
tepid talon
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i tried to like take off the cup and put it back on at mid level place but it doesn't seem to reset and get him again eh

rustic vale
tepid talon
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too bad haha

rustic vale
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eh there isn’t really much good use for it

tepid talon
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oh but you if you got aphrodite you could maybe switch to her to make sure you can combo it?

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whatever she give

rustic vale
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You can switch to aphrodite easily

tepid talon
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cool thats good idea ill give her a yellow drink next time i see her thanks

rustic vale
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And then for elysium and styx you focus on utility and defensive keepsakes

tepid talon
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damn thats smart

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see right away i learn how to do better

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good stuff

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thankees

sharp field
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does anyone have any ares hadesgame art that shows the back of his head? need to steal someone else's hair design because i can't for the life of me figure out how to draw his godawful half bald hairstyle kicksrocks

tepid talon
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hows hades 2 compare to this by the way

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i dont have moneys or id try it

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one day i will

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rustic vale
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On the weapons that do build hangover, you’re easily hitting 8 stacks for a 60% dps boost

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compared to the like 37.5% boost from curse of nausea

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If you’re using dio call (the best hangover source) on the other hand, curse of nausea is superior

tepid talon
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what weapons build hangover

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šŸ¦–

rustic vale
tepid talon
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Ok thanks

rustic vale
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Spear and rail can

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But

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I wouldn’t really advise it

tepid talon
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I didnt get even those becaise i wanted unlock all mirror haha

rustic vale
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And that’s ā€œbuilding hangover on strike and specialā€

tepid talon
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Need 30 keys now!!

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Ohhh cool

rustic vale
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Every single weapon can take dio call because it’s one of the best dps calls

tepid talon
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I tru

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I try

rustic vale
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you just don’t want to overlap hangover sources

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and if you’re using dio call you want to spam minicalls

rain patrol
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Yo im using aspect of talos for a normal run. What boons should I aim for???

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Hey guys, I'm about to make a hollow knight mod that has roguelike items turned into charms. I want to have 1 from each of: Balatro, Enter the Gungeon, Binding of Isaac, Hades, and Slay the Spire. If anyone has any ideas for items that could be turned into hollow knight charms, even if you haven't played hollow knight, please feel free to ping or dm me 😁

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so far i have one from balatro and slay the spire

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but i don't know anything about any roguelikes except balatro

rustic vale
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I have a feeling most people would avoid em cuz they’d be mostly defensive

rustic wraith
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already exists in hollow knight basically

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not to the same extent

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but

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ah can't send pics

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there's a charm called dreamshield, if you haven't played the game it's just a shield that rotates around you

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and it's not popular at all

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rustic wraith
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items inside of the games i listed

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I seee

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I haven’t played hollow knight, but could a death defiance symbol be fun

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Though it might be boring

rustic wraith
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hm maybe

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but i don't think it would fit well

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Charms are just lil trinkets that buff you right

rustic wraith
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ya

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and they each take up a number of notches so you have to be strategic

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the more powerful they are the more notches they take

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The only Knowledge I have of hollow knight is one friend yapping about it to me

rustic wraith
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and you have a set number of open notches to use

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Oh cool

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How about a trinket that let’s you do a call

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And it’s a random god

rustic wraith
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can you give an example? i've only seen a couple videos of hades so i don't know much

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Zeus call (strikes lightning)
Artemis (homing arrows)
Athena (invincibility temporarily)
Dionysus (drop wine on people)

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Ares (turns into a saw)

rustic wraith
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it might be difficult to add a whole new ability but it is possible

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usually charms just modify abilities

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Hmmm

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What weapon does the character use?

rustic wraith
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can't think of any that completely add something new besides the summoning ones

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a nail

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which you slash like a sword

amber crest
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A what now

rustic wraith
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he's a bug

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so he uses a little nail

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That’s actually kinda adorable

rustic wraith
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fr

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it's basically just a sword

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there's a charm that turns slashes into projectiles that do less damage

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Does he use any other weapon

rustic wraith
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he has spells

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So spells and a nail

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a fireball, a dive that does impact damage, and an upwards shriek

rustic wraith
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Hades does stuff with casting so maybe that

rustic wraith
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maybe

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Wait does the sword have any other attacks

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Or just slash

rustic wraith
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nah

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well

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you can slash downwards

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and pogo things

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it knocks you upwards

amber crest
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So o heard

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Apparently you can just bounce on enemies

rustic wraith
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yup

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it's used in a lot of skips

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Again, kinda adorable

rustic wraith
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lmao

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i was thinking maybe a charm based on a boon? if it would fit

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bc boons and charms are both upgrades

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How about this: after you cast, for the next 5 seconds you have a 20% crit chance

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Cast a spell o mean

rustic wraith
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no crits in hollow knight so that would be kinda weird

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It’s based on an aspect

rustic wraith
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hm

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yeah idk

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There’s just a bunch of boons

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So maybe one for each god?

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Hermes we’d do hyper sprint (after a dash you get a LOT of move speed for 0.5 seconds and you are ya lied during those .5 seconds)

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Zeus would be lightning strike (you do a bit of extra damage that bounces between enemies)

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Poseidon would be Tidal Dash (at the end if your dash you do a watery shockwave that does damage and knocks enemies back)

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Artemis would be fully loaded, her legendary, and take up a bunch of notches. (Increase the amount of spells you can use drastically and can increase casting time)

rustic wraith
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artemis and hermes sounds pretty cool

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Athena would be divine dash (you reflect projectiles in your dash trajectory)

rustic wraith
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other two might be hard, and atm i just want to make one per game but i can add more eventually

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Just spitballin

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Um

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Are there any fountains

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Or like healing places

rustic wraith
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yeah hot springs

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great

rustic wraith
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you sit in them and they heal you+generate soul (basically mana for spell casting and healing)

amber crest
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I have an idea then

rustic wraith
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okay

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Dionysus: STRONG DRONK (Strong drink). You heal max every time you reach one instantly and you get a long but temporary attack buff

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Oh wait does it already heal you to fill

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Full

rustic wraith
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if you sit in it long enough

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doesn't take too long

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and they're kinda rare

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Can you sit in one infinite amount of times

rustic wraith
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yes

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Then that doesn’t do much

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How about

rustic wraith
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yeah

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i think it's kinda hard since hollow knight isn't a roguelike lol

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most hades stuff is based on the fact that everything changes each run

amber crest
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Every hit has a chance to inflict hangover: the enemy takes damage over time and becomes dazed and confused

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They attack less and have worse AI

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combines festive fog and hangover

rustic wraith
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hm

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that might be a little difficult for me but it's an interesting idea

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this is my first hollow knight mod lol

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Maybe just the damage over time then

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That’s what hangover does in the actual game anyways

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What god have I forgotten…

rustic wraith
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that sounds cool maybe

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any other unique effects with it or is that it?

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Ares turns your fireball into a rifting blade

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wait that would be really good

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like is rifting blade a projectile?

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Gimme a sec

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Sec

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You saw nothing

rustic wraith
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lol

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for rifting blade it would be possible to take the model for the projectile from another charm and replace the fireball with that

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grubberfly's elegy makes your sword slash a projectile

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Gimme a sec

rustic wraith
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K

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Sorry can I DM you a message of what rifting blades look like

rustic wraith
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ya sure

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Ah sorry

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Umm

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Idk actually don’t use Talos

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Curse of drowning is cool

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I imagine most casts would work

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Maybe crush shot

rustic vale
# rain patrol ...
  1. don’t use talos
  2. on a fr note, blizzard shot or hunting blades aren’t bad build ideas
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lightning phalanx also isn’t half bad with lightning strike and phalanx shot

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rustic vale
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Reddit and gaming journals are the first options that pop up and that’s too much of a liability

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I'll take that over chargpt, I'm saying out of the 2 options

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Just don't trust everything blindly, look at the website, the source and whatnot

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Do ya homework

stiff obsidian
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Thegamer is a very reliable source

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who the hell is this cosmic guy

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there's ain't enough space here for the both of us 😠

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@rustic wraith regarding an hk charm representing hades, make one that lets you dash twice in a row

rustic vale
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Greater Reflex is the most important thing to come out of Hades

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I actually learned how to dash twice in real life after being inspired by Zagreus

bronze drift
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There’s a huge sword above me, am I DOOMED?

rustic vale
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Probablt

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Most situations that have a sword above you are bad

bronze drift
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Ig

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But what if its my own sword defending me

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Like in dead cells

rustic vale
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Then you’re in a bad situation because you need to defend yourself

bronze drift
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Interesting

rustic vale
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There’s also beheadings

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which is another point for bad situatipn

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And the only real time I could see a sword above your head being a good situation is if you’re being knighted

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did you get one for isaac too

bronze drift
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But I don’t think they usually hung swords

rustic vale
rustic wraith
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For hades I’m doing the doom effect and someone suggested crown of light for isaac

rustic wraith
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Which seems sick

bronze drift
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I like your povs

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ooo crown of light is nice

rustic wraith
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Crown of light would be really good for exploration ya

rustic vale
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I feel like greater reflex is more core to Hades than doom but pop off

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i was thinking turning spirit into brimstone

bronze drift
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What are you doing?

rustic wraith
rustic wraith
bronze drift
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Ye

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rustic wraith
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I know what it does lol

bronze drift
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Oh

rustic vale
bronze drift
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Didn’t even notice

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I wonder why

rustic wraith
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Hmm I wonder

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rustic wraith
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I’m making a hollow knight mod that adds charms based on items from roguelikes

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it changes a lot of breakpoints

rustic wraith
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Ty

bronze drift
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Well I’m off enjoy

rustic wraith
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Bye bye

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Btw for hades the reason I’m doing doom is bc I can probably reskin the hollow knight stalactites

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I think it would be cool

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man i should do another hk playthrough

rustic wraith
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I don’t know much about hades tho

rustic wraith
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rustic wraith
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Yeah this is my first hk mod so I don’t want it to be super difficult, and I’m only doing one charm at a time

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My first one is probably gonna be slay the spire

rustic vale
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Fully reskin the hollow knight to be the beheaded

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trust

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I’m cooking

rustic wraith
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I mean there are skin mods

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i wish skong gets actual steam workshop support

rustic wraith
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Fr

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I mean I’m gonna play it on pc gamepass but still

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Question btw do yall play balatro?

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I'm buying skong full price on release day šŸ¤‘

rustic vale
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Nah šŸ˜”

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rustic vale
rustic wraith
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Bc I’m still trying to find a good joker to turn into a charm

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rustic wraith
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I’m thinking vagabond or stencil

rustic vale
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It’s releasing in 3025 idk if you’ll still be around

rustic wraith
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It’s confirmed before holiday this year

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Which ik doesn’t mean much

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But

rustic vale
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Yeah before holiday 3025

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rustic wraith
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The files were added to the steam db recently

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would go hard with spell builds

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lol stencil with shaman stone would be enough damage for most bosses

rustic wraith
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Yeah but how would it scale? Multiply by 1.2 over and over?

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Seems a little broken

rustic vale
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1.2^x fr fr

rustic wraith
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I would say multiply base soil gain by a certain amount that increases by 0.2 for each notch

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rustic vale
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1+0.2x bouldy

rustic wraith
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Ya

rustic vale
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Or 1.2 + 0.2x

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or

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hear me out

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(1.2x)^x

rustic wraith
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I think 1.2 +0.2x bc it’s already taking up notches so it has to have some kind of boost

rustic wraith
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how about dropping stencil and making a retrigger joker

rustic wraith
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Goes from 1.2 with 1 notch empty to 5.76 at 2

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"all your spells are fired again from where you shot them 2 seconds later"

rustic wraith
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That seems a little janky

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pretty hard to make in a mod yes

rustic wraith
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Hear me out

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Perkeo

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but would actually be strong with upgraded spells

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rustic wraith
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Idk I’m kidding lol

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Canio tho,every time you break a fragile charm it upgrades trust

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I’ll keep looking but ima go to bed now

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good night

rustic wraith
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Good night

tepid plover
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Here i was wondering why you were talking to yourself

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Then it hit me

rustic vale
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🧠

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but man this silly knight has become so iconic

rustic vale
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I’ve been meaning to change it for a little while

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Everybody tells me they can’t make out what it is and I’ve somehow been confused for Bananas on more than one occasion

rustic vale
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I got a nice colouring on the photo by taking it with my sunglasses over the camera

amber crest
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I’ve known of you for like a week and that’s how I remember you by

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amber crest
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lol

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That long?

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yes

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actually maybe longer

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like 3 or 4 i think

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Then definitely too iconic

rustic vale
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I had a horrid photo as my pfp for 2 or 3 years

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Because me and my friends decided to all share to same pfp

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šŸ˜”

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That’s wholesome

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rustic vale
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For the record

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If I found someone randomly with my pfp

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I’d probably change my pfp if it was a generic photo

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Idk why I said ā€œfor the recordā€

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Sadge

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Boo hoo

rustic vale
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I need to find a good photo to swap it to

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Do I go back to the og one that… the files for are on my cooked laptop

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nvrmind

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Maybe BOULDY?

rustic vale
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Nah he’s already out there

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Wait

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Where did the bouldy account go

unreal lotus
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Guys I just got to the Hades boss fight for the first time and got to like half health on his second phase then I still diedzagcry

unreal lotus
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What build should I use now

rustic vale
unreal lotus
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Any weapon

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But I don't have many aspects

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And the Furys stopped dropping blood

rustic vale
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They only drop blood the first time you kill them with each weapon for the time being

unreal lotus
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Aww

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I can buy some tho

rustic vale
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You’ll have to kill Hades before you can get more from them

unreal lotus
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Anyways

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I calculated it and I can only get 5 from the broker

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4 from ambrosia and 1 from keys

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But I kinda wanna save the keys for the mirror

rustic vale
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Honestly the upgrades you can get from the mirror are pretty massive atm

unreal lotus
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Ye

rustic vale
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Have you unlocked the other side of the mirror yet

unreal lotus
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But I have 19 keys and I need 20

rustic vale
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There are a few upgrades that are just better like dark foresight which is the green version of

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I’m blanking on it

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Olympian Favour or something

unreal lotus
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I don't have that yet

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I need one key

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And I'll have to do a whole run for it

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Wait I just unlocked Demeter??

rustic vale
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That’s when she realises you exist

unreal lotus
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I thought I had to beat Hades or smt

rustic vale
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Nah

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It’s just arriving on the surface

unreal lotus
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Alr then

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I have a moral dilemma now

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I have 20 keys

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So should I finish the run or book an express trip back to hades

rustic vale
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Finish off the run

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The later upgrades need more and more darkness and now that you’ve gotten bounties out of the way bosses will drop darkness

unreal lotus
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Bountys?

rustic vale
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Boss drops

unreal lotus
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Oh ok

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What's the best aspects?

rustic vale
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Gimme a sec

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It depends on your goal, if you’re doing speedrunning or using difficulty modifiers you’ll unlock after you beat Hades
Speed:
Sword - Nemesis
Spear - Achilles
Shield - Beowulf
Bow - Hera
Fist - Demeter
Rail - Eris

Heat (40-50+ is where they really outshine other aspects, but they are excellent before that)
Sword - Nemesis
Spear - Guan-Yu
Shield - Zeus
Bow - Rama
Fists - Demeter
Rail - Hestia (& Eris)

unreal lotus
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Ok

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I'll just copy this

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Also I just found a new mini boss

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I've never seen it before and it keeps disappearing

rustic vale
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Oh

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The sneak in tartarus

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I assume

unreal lotus
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The sneak?

rustic vale
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The name for it

unreal lotus
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Ok

rustic vale
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Although it could be the b-ball in elysium

unreal lotus
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It wasn't a ball

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Also now there are these weird hand thingys

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Wringers?

rustic vale
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Those have always been there

unreal lotus
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Really?

rustic vale
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I think you’re just only noticing some enemies now because I doubt you have the rng to get this far

unreal lotus
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I've never seen one

rustic vale
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without them appearing

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And they can absolutely spawn from a fresh file run onwards

unreal lotus
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I played like 40 runs

rustic vale
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Yeah and they can appear as early as your very first run

unreal lotus
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I see

tepid plover
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If you don't know what to use, can always use the gold old dark thirst

unreal lotus
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That's what I usually use coz I can't decide on anything

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Wait I can fish in chaos

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I got a projelly?

rustic vale
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for fishing

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sorry *they

unreal lotus
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Chaos?

rustic vale
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All the fish in his domain give darkness zaggrin

unreal lotus
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Is there one I got any good?

rustic vale
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Very nice when I’m currently missing like 125k

unreal lotus
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Why do you need 125k??

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rustic vale
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He’s not the best lol

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oh wait best one was voidskate right?

rustic vale
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Voidskate is better from Chaos

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Yup

rustic vale
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Regular catches give you a 50:50 from common and rare fish from the biome and perfect catches are 50:50 between rare and legendary fish

unreal lotus
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I see

rustic vale
unreal lotus
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?

rustic vale
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I’m pretty sure I’ve got 200k/325k that I need to get them all

rustic vale
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rustic vale
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Under your health bar

unreal lotus
rustic vale
unreal lotus
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Huh?

rustic vale
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You can only get them once you’ve reached the credits

unreal lotus
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I haven't finished the main story yet

unreal lotus
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Ok

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What does it do

rustic vale
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It’s just

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visual

unreal lotus
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I see

rustic vale
# unreal lotus I see

But yeah you buy the titles in order and they get more expensive as you buy more, and so the total cost works out to 325k

unreal lotus
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That's allot

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So how much do I get for the fish

rustic vale
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Voidskate is the big ticket item cuz it’s 500 darkness

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The other 2 are significantly less

unreal lotus
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Probably 150 max

rustic vale
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There’s no way it’s as high as 150

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I’d remember if it was higher than 100

unreal lotus
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Aww

indigo badge
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projelly is 250

unreal lotus
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Nice

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Yay fishing again

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I got a seamare

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Is that a legendary?

indigo badge
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yes

unreal lotus
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Nice

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Also, just out of curiosity but how do these people block a nuke with a shield??

rustic vale
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That’s lowkey

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notnwhat I remember at all

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but ok

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Pop off

rustic vale
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Your bombs on rail should be 100% fine

unreal lotus
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Oh ok

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It feels a lot better just letting Thanatos do all the work

rustic vale
unreal lotus
amber crest
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If you beat him

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In terms of kills

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You get a centaur heart

unreal lotus
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Oh

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What if I get over 15 kills more than him

amber crest
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Nothing

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Maybe an achievement

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But you still only get one centaur heart

rustic vale
unreal lotus
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Ok

rustic vale
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And an achievement on steam iirc

bronze drift
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Bro fish were better in 1

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They sold for more

unreal lotus
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Also can I have some sourdough

bronze drift
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Oh I just remembered agin they sell for much more in 1

unreal lotus
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Ok

indigo badge
ashen dawn
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ive somehow gotten dionysus boons 5 times in a row now cat_eatChips

indigo badge
ashen dawn
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i thinks its more fun to not know whats next

tepid plover
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Based

tender plover
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Do y'all consider it cheating to use aim assist on the adamant rail with a controller?

copper sedge
copper sedge
rustic vale
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I don’t consider it cheating to use aim assist for any weapons on controller tbh

latent moon
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does anyone wanna test if they can load a cast while blocking on beo using ri3/ri4

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preferably both unmodded and modded

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bc this is really screwing with my muscle memory

latent moon
rustic vale
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U may ve

latent moon
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lmfao you're fine

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i can test myself rq actually i'm done with my run

rustic vale
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Ok that was just stupid typos but I’m a little inebriated

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and I completely forgot about this within that 10 minute time span

latent moon
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oh it just

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doesn't work for me at all

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hm

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i can't press the side buttons and left click at the same time

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bruh

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this is like a relatively new mouse too but i can't return it bc i didn't know about this problem until now rip

tepid plover
tepid plover
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And, no I don't think it is

viscid stratus
unreal lotus
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I FINALLY DID IT

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I killed Hades

viscid stratus
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Yoooo congrats!

unreal lotus
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It only took 43 tries

viscid stratus
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Yeah, sounds abot right

unreal lotus
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And an hour on that run alone

viscid stratus
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What weapon?

unreal lotus
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Spear

viscid stratus
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Hmm which aspect tho?

unreal lotus
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None

viscid stratus
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So like

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Alright nice

unreal lotus
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Also it was only my third fight against hades

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I'm gonna eat a shawarma now

tepid plover
amber crest
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They just wouldn’t feel as good with using it

amber crest
tepid plover
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That's so wild

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Letting randoms on the internet dictate how you enjoy a game

viscid stratus
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Well, then again a lot of people like to go for all achievements and seeing as the devs are, by all means, random people on the internet there is an argument to be made there too

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So if you try thinking of the community as a part of the game instead of random people, just like the devs are, suddenly it makes a bit more sense

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While im not exactly active here i have seen for ex. the Remnant community or some communities for roguelike games

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As well as any MMORPG ofc, but thats obvious

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in those sometimes the community really just affects the way the game feels to you

stiff obsidian
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Makes complete sense

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The same way I wouldn't like to savescum eury or anvil

tepid plover
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Makes sense, hence why I don't care about achievements, I forgot to point out it was wild to me

fading reef
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Aphrodite or Dionysus?

amber crest
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Depends

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What build

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Overall, Aphrodite

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At least in my opinion

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But there are some builds Dionysus is prefered (Chiron, Trippy shot builds, Beowulf)

fading reef
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Alr thx

rustic vale
# fading reef Alr thx

Dionysus is way more splashable though since his call is one of the best dps calls in game (if not the best)

bronze drift
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I like the frost crystal cast

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With aspect of Achilles

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On the spear

amber crest
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Meme beam!

amber crest
bronze drift
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Yeah

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I didn’t remember ze name

rustic vale
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It’s meme beams

amber crest
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Meme beams

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Beamz

pliant blaze
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How much darkness do you get from an average win run

copper sedge
lavish sorrel
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involves using stygian soul and looking for a second (or even more) cast-stones from chaos

amber crest
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Poseidon with Beowulf is also good

amber crest
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Idk the specifics

tepid talon
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Dont be a jabroniii

rustic vale
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That’s not an average run at all

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You’d need like a high rarity eclipse for those numbers

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Sorry 2 eclipses

rustic vale
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With no assumptions about the amount of random blue laurel darknesses you grab because they’re such low value compared to other blue laurels, no buying any others etc

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The raw base amount of darkness is 550

agile leaf
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is it possibkle to clear a save file without creating a new one?

rustic vale
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Wdym by this

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Starting a new save file without starting a new save file?

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You can delete save files

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But I’m not sure if I fully grasp the question

agile leaf
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im mildly OCD so i want to only have my main save file at any given time. i created a new save file for my sister which is in the second save slot. i want to only have the first save slot have a save file in it. the problem with that is the game wont let me delete the second save slot until i start another save file in the second save slot. TLDR; is there a way to get the game to think that the only save file i have ever had is in my first save slot

rustic vale
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You can access the save file data way more easily that way

agile leaf
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through steam, if it matters

rustic vale
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I’m not versed in the methods and I’m a little 🄓 atm so I can’t really tell you how to access your save files but

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You can definitely manipulate save file data aka importing ones and you should be able to remove them

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I wager someone should on the speedrunning discord might be able to tell you because you have to get into the same file location to add a file, and a few import the speedrun files that has the game 100%ed

agile leaf
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where is that discord

rustic vale
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I just popped the question in h1-general there so we can see if anyone answers

nova geyser
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Hey guys! I was looking for a switch game that I could play for hour intervals and that would hopefully not be too tedious, whilst still offering a decent challenge and several hours to play. I was wondering if it might be too difficult and frustrating at times or if it’s fun for the most part. Kind of deciding between it and hollow knight

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Also should I wait for a discount to come up?

rustic vale
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Of course it starts off rough because you’re learning the game but

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Once you get an escape, you unlock a ton of difficulty modifiers that will let you set the difficulty to pretty much whatever you want

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I’d say taking an hour irl time for your first few clears is probably around the right ballpark if highballing it, and then as you get better it gets down to 30 minutes irl time per run

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but you can easily exit the game mid run and come back to the same run later

nova geyser
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Perfect that sounds great actually

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I think I’m just gonna wait for a sale now. Thanks a lot!!!

winter bronze
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How does filling the god pool supposedly increase my chances of seeing the god I actually want?

Its something i sometimes hear in Haelian's videos

I understand the filling the god pool part (4 gods per run, not including hermes or Charon random sack) but I dont understand how it helps?
Am I just misunderstanding something?

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Is it cuz the game is constantly trying to throw new gods my way if I dont fill the god pool?

amber crest
lavish sorrel
# winter bronze How does filling the god pool supposedly increase my chances of seeing the god I...

Consider:

  • if you've picked up boons from 4 different gods or more (non-hermes non-chaos), the game stops offering you new gods.
  • There are ways of extending the godpool, either by forcing a god using a keepsake, or (while at three gods in the pool) buying a boon from a shop followed by another god who you've not met yet, or seeing multiple gods you'd not seen before during the run appear all at once as styx chamber (or shop) rewards.
  • there are 8 main boongiver-gods in hades. Filling the godpool reduces this amount to howevermany gods are in the pool. Every eligible god has equal chance of appearing, thus the odds of seeing the god you want are ā…› before filling the pool and 1/n afterwards where n is the pool-size (assuming the god in question was not forced using a keepsake).
bronze drift
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That’s why I use god keepsakes in Tartarus and in Asphodel

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To insure a strong base

mellow spear
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Hey! I’m new to this game

viscid stratus
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Yeah, god keepsakes for tartarhs and asphodel really make the game feel a lot better

mellow spear
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Does anyone know how to get gems for the work orders

viscid stratus
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Ngl if the effects of rhe scaling keepsakes were retroactive it would've made em a lot better

mellow spear
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And do new work orders appear when you buy the ones that are there

viscid stratus
indigo badge
indigo badge
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also i recommend sticking to #h1-for-new-players , we regularly discuss big spoilers in this channel

mellow spear
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Ok cool šŸ™‚ thank youuuu

mellow spear
indigo badge
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there are a few that need you to have finished at least 1 run

mellow spear
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Is that how you open the locked door as well

indigo badge
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the locked doors in the house of hades?

mellow spear
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Yes

indigo badge
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both of those need big story advancements, you need to win multiple runs for them

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at least for the top one i know

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the left door I'm not sure šŸ¤”

mellow spear
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Ok cool

lavish sorrel
rustic vale
tepid talon
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this s good to know

fading reef
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cool

amber crest
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Interesting

amber crest
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WAIT SKELLY HAS HAIR?!?

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AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO HASNT NOTICED

spring gale
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even Rib has hair

wispy temple
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Skelly has hair???

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Isnt he bald??

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since hes a skeleton?

indigo badge
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he has hair

wispy temple
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damnn

brisk forge
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He’s got that animated toddler wispies of hair on top

wispy temple
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lmfao

brisk forge
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Oh but also hair lower, bit of a friar look

indigo badge
mellow spear
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Hey! Does anyone know exactly who I need to give nectar to to get all the trophies

deep imp
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Cause you need all the keepsakes

mellow spear
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Does anyone need more than 1 nectar?

amber crest
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For keepsakes, only one

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To progress story, always more

rustic vale
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Since there’s trophies for the epilogue (which requires unlocking the final hearts of 6/8 olympians), and then the 3 story room npcs, chaos and nyx iirc

granite steppe
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Is aspect of demeter incompatible with Kinetic Launcher and the wiki is just wrong? Cuz I've now gotten to 11 heat using it and I still have yet to see that hammer upgrade

granite steppe
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Nevermind, guess I was just getting supremely unlucky cuz it just showed up

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Finally

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And with that, I have now completed every single prophecy in Hades

void vigil
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I could b on the grind for chaos legendary for ages and then go like ā€œwow I still haven’t seen chaos legendary it’s been agesā€ and next run it’ll show up. Tried and true

snow hemlock
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Okay yall im kinda really bad at this game so

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If i wanna beat 32heat w sword, can yall recommend some possible build/tips 🤧

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Also why is my game screen fully tinted wtf 😭

lavish sorrel
snow hemlock
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Yeee i was trying to go for nemesis

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This feels likeee playing for the first time again cause im getting pummeled

lavish sorrel
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mind posting your pact in #h1-high-heat-strategies so I and others can help ? at 32, pact and build are the most important parts. with solid choices for both, less mechanical skill is needed.

old bluff
copper sedge
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There’s a 26th, but I’m not sure if they (||Bouldy||) count towards anything

mellow spear
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Ok thanks everyone

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Does anyone know how to unlock the last aspects for each weapon

viscid stratus
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You usually unlock them by progressing the lore with specific people

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Bow is artemis, fists are asterius, i think spear is Achilles (not 100% sure)

mellow spear
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How do I check pinned messages

indigo badge
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pins is next to members at the top of the screen

mellow spear
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I’ve just followed it and none of them unlocked

indigo badge
mellow spear
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Alright thanks

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Completed 10 runs and got the ending 😁

keen geode
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guys ı see a gold secret stach in the keepsakes whic character have a best golden secret keepsake

tepid plover
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What

keen geode
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sorry my english is not very vell

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under the normal keepsakes

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cowered by golden

rustic vale
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The best one is pretty much Megaeras

tepid plover
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I stick with sisyphus

hot bloom
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Guys.. do i buy hades for a 3rd time? Once on the xbox, once on a laptop, and another on my phone… do i do it once more

hot bloom
hot bloom
tepid lark
tepid plover
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The gold one goated af

rustic vale
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This ain’t true

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It’s 1-10% for all of them

tepid lark
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Is it?

rustic vale
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yup

tepid lark
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I could have sworn it was 5% max.

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Hm.

rustic vale
#

ambiguity is always 2% thou

tepid lark
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That's what I get for trusting the Wiki and not my own experience.

rustic vale
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95% accurate

tepid lark
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I went through the Wiki to double check and swore I remembered over 5% for some of those but I give every Wiki the same credibility in my mind as Wikipedia when that's not true lol.

hot bloom
tepid talon
#

can it run on pog

copper sedge
#

Does hunter’s mark affect shared suffering?

zinc trellis
copper sedge
amber crest
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Ikr

hollow ravine
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How does slippery defiance work if I have stubborn defiance

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Help help help

amber crest
#

Umm

hollow ravine
#

Does it just not work

amber crest
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I assume it would just work once

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But idk

hollow ravine
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Why would I get offered it

amber crest
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Sorry

hollow ravine
#

Oof I’ll just take it

amber crest
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Thank you for taking one for the team

hollow ravine
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Has to be done

copper sedge
#

Same as skelly tooth

tepid plover
#

Oop, someone just said that it seems, yeah forgor to keep reading

hollow ravine
#

I’m very confused not going to lie

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I’m new

hollow ravine
#

Oh

hollow ravine
copper sedge
#

yes

hollow ravine
#

Oh damn

copper sedge
# hollow ravine Oh damn

You get two lives
One renewable stubborn defiance, and a one-time death defiance if you die again after using up stubborn defiance

rustic vale
floral gazelle
#

i just clutched my first win against hades at 6hp

keen lake
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Ggs

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Also why is it so hard to bond with Hypnos 😭😭😭

fiery wagon
amber crest
fiery wagon
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I've not played the game for a long while, I can't rememeber what favour he asks? lol

amber crest
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Something about him getting better at his job

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It takes a bunch of runs

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Or smt

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All o remember was that it’s annoying

spring gale
amber crest
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Oh I thought they were connected

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Mb

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Is it you dying to different things?

spring gale
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You have to die to specific enemies

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To trigger specific dialogues

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So of course if you die to enemy B before you've died to enemy A enough times, that does nothing

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It's sooooo annoying

jagged plover
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Hi

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How do you get titan blood to unlcok new aspects

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?

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I never beat the game before

indigo badge
jagged plover
indigo badge
jagged plover
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I am in my run currently, with spear, reached 3rd stage without spending my 2 revives so gonna test that if i die in this run

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I just came back to the game , last time I played was in summer , i did 30-31 runs now this is my 3-4 th run since coming back

jagged plover
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Never did beforezagcry

tepid plover
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you will

jagged plover
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Tried bow after using spear , somehow killed trish faster

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I had triple shot+lvl 2 artemis basic attack boon

copper sedge
copper sedge
ashen dawn
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what do the locked hearts mean in the codex

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do i gotta do something

indigo badge
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they may also specifically ask you to do something

ashen dawn
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so like im at max with charon for example and theres a locked final heart and ive talked to em a lot
is somethin just gonna happen at some point

rustic vale
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The game doesn’t tell you the conditions for most of them but they’re often talking to that npc if not 2 or 3 more

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like wrapping up the imprisonment of the storyroom npcs or killing enough enemies for ares

ashen dawn
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ahh

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i see

rustic vale
#

Each npcs favour is listed on their article of the Hades fandom wiki

ashen dawn
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alr

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love charon gotta get that favour

jagged plover
copper sedge
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Tisiphone

jagged plover
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Murder one

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D

copper sedge
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Yes

jagged plover
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I keep going as far as to minotaur and theseus

copper sedge
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Booo theseus booo

jagged plover
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Killed minotaur for the first time today

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But theseus killed me

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I used my skelly and zag revive just to kill the bull with spear run

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But hydra wasn't problematic tho

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I kept special deflecting all the attacks

copper sedge
jagged plover
copper sedge
jagged plover
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Game is so fast

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I just spam dodge

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And hit

copper sedge
#

Which weapon?

jagged plover
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Don't even look at hp sometime

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It was lance run

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But my build wasn't focused

copper sedge
#

Which lance?

jagged plover
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Zagreus

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Dont have anything else

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Just zag

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I just play zag bow or spear

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Nothing else

copper sedge
#

I’d recommend getting another spear asap, zagreus spear isn’t very good

jagged plover
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Other weapons aren't for me

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Idk how

copper sedge
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Oh, didn’t show up yet

jagged plover
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Beating the game isn't possible yet

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So no tb

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Gonna try sword

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To beat first boss

copper sedge
jagged plover
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And get tb

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Or any other 3

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I never played gauntlet, gun, shield

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They aren't for me

copper sedge
jagged plover
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Yeah , all weapons pls if you can

copper sedge
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Disclaimer: I'm not the best hades player and some things may be off

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that being said

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The gun isn't strong, but it fires fast. That means you'll want to use flat damage that can be rapidly applied, such as Zeus's chain lightning or Dionysus's hangover

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You can also lean into the bomb and it ignores shields in Elysium which is nice

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For the gauntlets, you can chain the dash special from the gauntlets into another special for better burst damage

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Not sure about shield

copper sedge
latent moon
latent moon
latent moon
copper sedge
latent moon
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Yoyo isn't good

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It's just a funny meme build

copper sedge
#

Fair enough

keen lake
#

Guys I am not getting anymore Thanatos dialogue how do I get Hypnos favor😭

mint coral
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just gotta keep trying

keen lake
#

So does Thanatos still have something to say?

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I’m not cooked?

mint coral
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yeah

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dialogue is just like that sometimes

odd maple
#

Has anyone figured out how to unlock the hidden aspects?

amber crest
#

Whys this hades two stuff

amber crest
latent moon
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So could be either lmfao

amber crest
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Yes, but there are still hidden aspects in Hades 1

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Hence the confusion

latent moon
#

The wording makes me think h2 tho

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H1 generally is "how do I unlock them"

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Considering they said "has anyone figured out how to" it's prob h2

raw herald
#

unfortunately nobody has figured it out in the 5 years since h1 release 😦

latent moon
#

Damn

old bluff
#

Sadly nobody can play Beo because no one knows how to unlock it :(

silent pulsar
#

positive that this message won’t be seen but i would love a switch 2 hades 1 upscaling patch :[ it’s stuck to 720p 60fps on a 1080p 120fps screen

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i still love hades 1 and regard it as easily one of the greatest games ever made so i would love to be able to play it better on the go

silent pulsar
#

can’t believe supergiant would leave a whole aspect just inaccessible like that. smh my head

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also congrats on sub 5 that’s absolutely insane

jagged plover
torn sinew
#

what would you guys consider as 100%ing or max%ing hades?

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just curious

latent moon
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finished epilogue, all keepsakes and companions maxed, all hearts, all max aspects, 32 heat done

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idk what else

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basically everything except resource director lmao

rustic vale
torn sinew
#

also I think a masochist’s definition would be all of that and all dialogue seen and 64 heat on every weapon which I don’t think is physically possible

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hey I mean 100%ing means doing everything you possibly could

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so technically

torn sinew
gloomy vale
#

ye

torn sinew
#

somewhere in pins in a channel

latent moon
#

he takes like 325k darkness in total lmfao

latent moon
#

unless you wanna put a couple thousand hours into a single aspect, then go for it lmao

alpine rune
rustic vale
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Reaource director gives you little titles for your darkness and other resources

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The other resources are negligible

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You need 325k darkness to get the all the titles

viscid stratus
#

Mmm yes ap 3

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No boons

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No rng

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Ez

tepid plover
tepid plover
torn sinew
torn sinew
dim musk
#

bought hades!

median anchor
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What is the best aspect for early game ? don't have much upgrades and never got to hades, i only beat 3rd boss 'started yesterday)

viscid stratus
hollow ravine
#

Hello

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What do I do after I beat hades

rustic vale
#

You’ve escaped a single time?

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or you’ve reached the credits to the game?

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or you’ve finished the epilogue?

hollow ravine
#

Nevermind I’m stupid

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I didn’t know how to leave the screen where they show you all your bones after you beat hades

rustic vale
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Oh lmao