h1-discussion

[mint coral]

It'll say 0 -> whatever other cast

[rustic vale]

They know

[glacial bolt]

just in case

[rustic vale]

that’s not a thing with normal zeus cast

[glacial bolt]

[rustic vale]

beowulf has so many bug with it it’s funny

[solid glen]

ive never done anything other than aphro on beo

except trippy shot once

[rustic vale]

People will do anything but pos cast

[glacial bolt]

is Arthemist just a coinflip cast

[fervent radish]

Yeah kinda

There’s no reason to not run Poseidon aphro or Dio cast lol

All of the other ones suck

[glacial bolt]

doesnt dio loses his zeus duo boon

[fervent radish]

No

[fervent radish]

it's not as important of a source of damage though since dio cast is just a nuke

[solid glen]

Takes so long to get back though

[fervent radish]

use stygian soul

3s regen vs 5s

[solid glen]

I love nuking with 3 casts at once though lol

[fervent radish]

pick your poison i guess

it's important to look for chaos stones, take hourglass into ely/styx, and check wells

[tidal hazel]

What do i have to do to unlock the secret aspects? I have atleast 5 unlocked, have beaten the game but guan yu isnt there?

[final hinge]

You dont have to, its optional
but you need to unlock the 2 alternate aspects for each weapon for the spear, and then for every weapon you want

In order to get em

[mint coral]

That's wrong

[mint coral]

None of the unlocked aspects are a zagreus one right

[mint coral]

Well, not entirely ig

You need 5 aspects total so you can buy both spears for it lol

Other weapons need 5 blood invested

[carmine vessel]

as someone who hasn’t gotten this duo yet and just unlocked the aspect, why doesn’t scintilling feast (dio x zeus) work on Beowulf, but lightning rod (arte x zeus) can?

[rustic vale]

Even once you meet the conditions it’s still an rng dialogue from achilles

[mint coral]

?

[rustic vale]

They both are available on the aspect?

you can have both

On beowulf

[carmine vessel]

only lightning rod apparently

[rustic vale]

What

[mint coral]

where are you checking this

[carmine vessel]

(Or fandom is just wrong lol)

[mint coral]

[rustic vale]

[rustic vale]

He doesn’t

I swear this is definitely a fandom issue

[mint coral]

no even the page is right?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230649734008672347/1361802761238216886/image.png?ex=68001527&is=67fec3a7&hm=262dc2c66f29e1cdf2b92e7966194a2c45371bab988fd7515abec8638881cbdf&

[glacial bolt]

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Duo_Boons

[rustic vale]

I’m on the zeus page rn

It’s not there

On the zeus page

[mint coral]

yeah the duos page is wrong lmfao

[glacial bolt]

its no the duo boon page

[carmine vessel]

Scroll over to the right

[glacial bolt]

[rustic vale]

Fandom has a handful of just blatantly wrong information

But this is new

[mint coral]

also that yeah

pls use this https://cpecific.github.io/hades-wiki/

(or ideally the codex in game)

[rustic vale]

This probably happened when they reformatted the Hades wiki on fandom

[carmine vessel]

wait does it show incompatibility?

[rustic vale]

rather than the source being incorrect info someone just screwed up a copy paste

[rustic vale]

Yeah

[mint coral]

incompatibility itself I don't think so

but like, it shows you can get it

[carmine vessel]

But on Beowulf?

[mint coral]

yes

beo just uses trippy flare

same as hera

which can also get it

hell you can prob look on reddit for the same build

[rustic vale]

The codex tells you that trippy flare is a

Why am I forgetting the word

Prerequisite

it’s one of the two dio prerequisites

prerequisite

[mint coral]

#h1-victory-boasting message old but still has it

and the game hasn't received patches in ages

[carmine vessel]

Codex doesn’t differentiate flare from shot when it comes to duos lol

lol I’m just gonna get trippy flare and figure it out for myself lol

There’s gotta be a reason for this game design

[mint coral]

huh you right lol

oh I think I know why

prob just some beo stuff lmfao

similar to how flood flare suddenly turns its text into flood shot sometimes

@carmine vessel ice wine does have the difference for some reason

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230649734008672347/1361805959801864222/2025041.JPG?ex=68001821&is=67fec6a1&hm=c63a1ba37f360ed90e8db4f276a62f55ca7a78342d02cb63f7c7fbe19bd69c9b& but picking the flare does work

beo moment @rustic vale

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230649734008672347/1361806131898355854/2025042.JPG?ex=6800184a&is=67fec6ca&hm=7cbb7e407c91083f6cc9c1aa001bab986eae9a02b041db9182f8bca0b2c3d5ab&

is marked as if I had shot lmfao

also I played too much h2 seeing h1 ui hit like a brick

[rustic vale]

That seems off

I’m fairly certain every duo has both shot and flare listed unless they can’t use the flare

like blizzard shot can’t have tidal flare

Lmao

[mint coral]

I think this is just a beo moment

[rustic vale]

I just read them

That’s so funny

[mint coral]

truly the spaghetti of h1

yeah pretty sure feast is the only one lmfao

even his legendary has it correct

[stiff obsidian]

not with that attitude

[rustic vale]

Does scillanting feast have the right requirements on dio or is it broken on both

[mint coral]

this was me checking dio

let me check zeus but prob broken

yeah says trippy shot only lol

[rustic vale]

Weird

[mint coral]

also good start lol

+1 cast for dmg on special

wait what is my summon binding again

sneak almost bullied me

nvm got forced into athena and aphro

[fervent radish]

Very weird bc I’ve definitely gotten it

[mint coral]

oh it says trippy shot only but still marks me as available for it lol

[mint coral]

I have trippy flare in this screenshot

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230649734008672347/1361809587207934205/2025043.JPG?ex=68001b82&is=67feca02&hm=a06bdf537e0bdf8625d9dc8103082c3399526bf209dae1722771180d4acc94b4& it'd be funny

[carmine vessel]

now why though… it still lingers so it should work right?

[mint coral]

it does work

is just the codex not showing it appropiately

which tbf I didn't know till today

[carmine vessel]

Ok so it does highlight it in the menu as trippy shot lol

[mint coral]

got it

[mint coral]

and yeah lmfao

[carmine vessel]

Even for Demeter on ice wine 💀

And dio

[mint coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230649734008672347/1361810671179923629/20A4731.JPG?ex=68001c85&is=67fecb05&hm=37e3125b66ca7a9480beb99ce0c73d3fd4bc0e7734f704484c47eb4cd5f9bbb2& @rustic vale I love beo

[carmine vessel]

Silly fandom

someone’s gotta go edit that now lol

[rustic vale]

Flares are just brokenpl

[mint coral]

beo moment

[rustic vale]

I swear there are a few known errors that were on there for at least 2 years cuz nobody bothered to change it

They might still be up but atp I’ve forgotten what the errors even were

[mint coral]

one flare is doing 1.1k dmg lol

nvm forgot I had a braid

800

[carmine vessel]

lol just got it I can rest

[fervent radish]

I think you mean shot

[mint coral]

may you get an awful elysium

[fervent radish]

Jokes on you my elysiums have been terrible anyways

[mint coral]

well now they'll be worse

[rustic vale]

I bestow upon you a 15 minute c34 after you accidentally took JS6 from a chaos boon

[mint coral]

lol the elysium eyes survive dad 1 ending

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230649734008672347/1361815256501977129/2009C91.JPG?ex=680020ca&is=67fecf4a&hm=d925349aab306cf10c6c8c0375c72a62e1bebf44edcda46a61cf7cca9eb99754& hanging out

[glacial bolt]

what about legendary

[mint coral]

It shows both iirc?

And anyways I def have gotten that

[glacial bolt]

Ah, so i was just unlkucy after 4 rolls

[mint coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230649734008672347/1361816642870444083/20A81D1.JPG?ex=68002214&is=67fed094&hm=ae7709258517eb0d03abcf3dae8955668358ad25b207c45452ea14bbadd3d02f&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/947535708246114334/2022022713454900-C7D8C4153CC9802713604F54C53304E0.jpg?ex=67ffdf65&is=67fe8de5&hm=a3598667398c52d1372b84bbd9c1b8b7dcf05068dfb40c5dff5886ad0eaff0d0&

[glacial bolt]

yeah just got it

[mint coral]

lmao this is from 2023

[carmine vessel]

There’s not a max for duo boons for a run right?

[fervent radish]

No

It’s typically hard to get more than 4-5 just because of finite rooms and all

[stiff obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/hades-hades-game-zagreus-thanatos-asterius-gif-16694693258957260482

[rustic vale]

Meme beams is crzy

[stiff obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/zagreus-hades-game-zagres-hades-game-sparkle-on-its-wednesday-dont-forget-to-be-yourself-gif-975383615312019866

[harsh scroll]

Demeter try to be good at something

[carmine vessel]

lol I just got 5

[fervent radish]

what chamber

[carmine vessel]

And ngl maybe they hid scintilling feast from us because it’s absolutely broken on beowulf

then get some sort of hangover effect and blackout and you can just camp and do absurd damage when it’s up lol

[fervent radish]

it's not that broken ngl

most of the damage should be coming from casts, which should one shot anyways

[carmine vessel]

Yeah that’s true lol

But as a close 2nd

Cuz it’s very silly plus festive fog is the strongest damaging cast in (right?)

(as a base, since most the rest of them can be benfitted by buffs that also help other boons from the same gods)

[mint coral]

Is not really hidden, just beo being buggy

Also have you done mirage shot yet, that's more broken

[lavish sorrel]

Boy do I have news for you

[stiff obsidian]

always beowulf or zeus

[harsh scroll]

What's the average damage per shot on Hestia

[stiff obsidian]

150 maxed with no boons or buffs

[harsh scroll]

Yeah I know the maxed aspect is 150 I'm referring to builds and such

[stiff obsidian]

depends ofc

at low heat you shoul be getting 600-800 by the end

[harsh scroll]

And at high heat?

[stiff obsidian]

at 50 and above i aim for 400 by dad fight

which would just be pommed epic aphro atk + hunter dash

[glacial bolt]

Okay, tried zeus beo

he cant be busted by chaos cast

but, getting blood stones does work and unharmed damage buff also works on it aswell

Sooooooooooo not too extra bad tbh.

[copper sedge]

I unironically love when the game’s fps drops

Is the bot just gonna always be at the bottom or

huh.

[old bluff]

You can get double strike from zeus which kinda acts like mirage

[copper sedge]

If the game is running slow enough I can spam blade dash for insane dps

[old bluff]

ye

this games gets wack at either really high or really low fps

[glacial bolt]

is it double strike maxing hours?

[stiff obsidian]

i love when my frames drop and i die

will never miss that phase

[copper sedge]

I guess I have a different type of lag

[raw herald]

Thunder flare also has basically no aoe

Really noticeable against lernie

[copper sedge]

Welp the game crashed because my phone ran out of memory, No more blade dash cheese for me

[glacial bolt]

high voltage?

[copper sedge]

Just got the low fps again and beat Hades for the first time

[copper sedge]

Are the effects the game displays on the results screen the ones that did the most damage?

[indigo badge]

i don't think so

you can display the ones you like for a screenshot

[copper sedge]

Oh

[wooden pecan]

Hey anyone know aspect of guan yu healing is affected by lasting consequences?

[stiff obsidian]

itb isnr'

it isnt

[rustic vale]

no, it just randomly takes ones (but it does have a few rules)

Hades won't innately track how much damage sources deal over the course of your run

but if you're playing on steam

you can get the dps meter mod

[raw herald]

Then you’re getting into needing a lot of Zeus boons for it to be usable

• high voltage isn’t even that good

[glacial bolt]

The everyday Zeus build issue.

[stiff obsidian]

not really

[glacial bolt]

Personally when i go for zeus builds, i really cant think of a better god besides Zeus himself

i just need mroe Zeus cuz lmao

[stiff obsidian]

yes

its not an issue though

[tidal hazel]

Love zeus builds

[raw herald]

Also iirc mirage actually does nothing with thunder flare

[trim fossil]

I got Hades 1 AFTER 2, I gotta say, DAMN Zag feels less "safe"

T_T died to Hydra when it has one health leffttttt

[harsh scroll]

Should I take Aphro atk and Arte special for a Heart Rend run or the other way around (Demeter aspect)

[indigo badge]

because we have basically no defensive boons and enemies are all on crack

[mint coral]

Different gameplays moment

[raw herald]

I’m ngl it probably doesn’t matter here because that build isn’t good on dem fists

[harsh scroll]

Yeah I know I'm just doing it for giggles

Another day of making unviable turn viable

[raw herald]

aphro attack will obv be better at spreading weak

if you want any damage just do support fire and get zeus in the pool for smair

[tidal hazel]

How many times has heat 64 been beaten?

[zinc trellis]

Oh is 2 easier than 1?

[tidal hazel]

What is “flare”?

[mint coral]

Tbh yeah

[tidal hazel]

Cast on shield aspect?

[mint coral]

(hades 2) ||the order I'd say is surface h2 > h1 UW >>>> H2 uw||

[obsidian wharf]

Do you guys think hades 1 will get a switch 2 update for 120 fps1080?

Hades 1 on switch 1 struggles still with a lot going on

[mint coral]

Yeah, all casts on beowulf turn into flare versions

Also hera bow + trippy flare

[stiff obsidian]

Many times

[cunning niche]

yes

[tidal hazel]

But what does that mean

[tidal hazel]

Over under 30

[stiff obsidian]

Over

[tidal hazel]

How is that and yet they’ve only found 4 weapons that are able to do it

[stiff obsidian]

Cuz zeus op and mysterra op

[tidal hazel]

Is mysterra a player? Im new to the community but played since it came out and just got back into it

[fervent radish]

?

Wouldn’t it be plausible that it could be beaten 50 times and there were only 1 aspect capable of it

[tidal hazel]

Yea but if you’re good enough to do it multiple times I’m sure there would be more weapons to utilise due to skill

[fervent radish]

There’s a hard cap on some weapons that won’t be able to beat 64 ever based on low dps, lack of safety, or both

And it’s usually people one tricking one or two aspects that lets them beat 64 in the first place

[tidal hazel]

Yeah i guess but i was thinking that aspects are not far off being balanced and sort of similar play style so couldn’t different aspects be done?

[stiff obsidian]

at that level smallest power differences are huge

[stiff obsidian]

yea

[tidal hazel]

And i assume you’re talking about zeus the god not another player?

[stiff obsidian]

zeus the aspect

zeus playing zeus with zeus ^2 would be funny tho

[orchid furnace]

does the game go on sale often? i started playing the netflix version but i just wanna get it on my pc now and im not sure if i wanna pay the full price 😭

[stiff obsidian]

use steamdb to check trends ig

[fervent radish]

Yeah the issue is that they are that different in terms of balance

[indigo badge]

the biggest issue is dps. at 64 you're running js3 cp2 em4, too many enemies with a lot of hp, and bosses take ages to kill. even if you have the damage, ri4 takes away stubborn defiance which makes the run extremely unforgiving

[harsh scroll]

And because of Underworld Customs and Approval Process you're forced to win with whatever the game wants you to use

[rustic vale]

dc2 is also a massive issue for slower aspects

[glacial bolt]

Does any of the shields have better values on specials?

[mint coral]

Zeus

Beowulf too but that's the normal special which sucks

[glacial bolt]

Zeus aint compatiable with charged shot, right?

[mint coral]

It is compatible

If anything zeus has the best odds for it

Cuz it removes dread/charged flight from the pool

[glacial bolt]

i mean charged flight

trying a flight build

[mint coral]

Oh lol

Do beo then

It does 45 iirc?

[glacial bolt]

its hitting for 56 rn

[mint coral]

https://cpecific.github.io/hades-wiki/ yeah 45

[glacial bolt]

oh im confidence

[mint coral]

Classic

[glacial bolt]

chaos is 14

im lossing my sanity, is chaos turbo nerfed or what

[mint coral]

Is bad yeah

The extra shields don't work with any of the special hammers iirc

[glacial bolt]

Yeah, that seems veyr bad

[indigo badge]

because it IS bad

[visual sphinx]

Just joined and wanted to say holy- this game is awesome

Like i started saying "if this game isnt that fun i might do the 2 hour refund" and wow this game just slaps immidietly

Bro im tryna express how great this game is can these bots chill tf out

[mint coral]

The bot just makes sure the msg is at the bottom

[summer hazel]

What's the easiest way to get the "Use greater call against a god in a trial" steam achievement? I probably need to turn on hordes and enemy HP, it's hard to charge up the god gauge enough before the trial is over.

[stiff obsidian]

in ely keep an eyeball alive and let it spawn over and over

[winter scarab]

Hermes boon, let the souls respawn, turn on those 2 conditions if you have health to spare take the Zeus boon and take a couple hits

[glacial bolt]

Just for the record, there is no gun build, yeah?

Like, main gun, shot n shot style

[visual sphinx]

i am definetly running a gun build rn lol

things got 22 bullets XD

[glacial bolt]

whats it about?

[visual sphinx]

moar boolet.

[stiff obsidian]

hestia

there is a gun in the game

[glacial bolt]

no, thats a shotgun build

[visual sphinx]

wdym by shot n shot

[mint coral]

Why do people call hestia a shotgun

[stiff obsidian]

what does shot n shot mean

[glacial bolt]

constant reload time.

[stiff obsidian]

huh

[glacial bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/shooting-a-machine-gun-vanguard-firing-a-machine-gun-intense-gunfire-open-fire-gif-20295147

Just using main bullets

[mint coral]

Just run eris then

Or zag rail spread fire

[glacial bolt]

mmm

[stiff obsidian]

thats how the default gun functions

[visual sphinx]

yeah lmao wdym

[stiff obsidian]

delta chamber for no relead

[glacial bolt]

a build focusing on main fire usage xD

[stiff obsidian]

yes

[visual sphinx]

well then just use base version of the gun and go for zeus upgrades plus the hammer upgrades that give more bullets

[mint coral]

Spread fire would give you the most "just bullet" feeling ig

Cuz otherwise you wanna use zeus/dio or your dmg won't exist

[glacial bolt]

im going for deadly reveral, athena on main build lol

and trying to get backstacks

[visual sphinx]

oh wow

[stiff obsidian]

[mint coral]

Tl;dr is your bullets do 10 dmg base so any % buff is just useless really

[visual sphinx]

im on my first run after beating game and i just walk into "my sisters have come into an agreement"

im cooked.

[mint coral]

Lmao have fun

[glacial bolt]

mmm

[visual sphinx]

oh i thought all 3 would jump me i just killed the 1 and im chilling

[harsh scroll]

Max Zag aspect + Flurry Fire has 30 bullets total iirc

[visual sphinx]

yeah this is my after first successful escape tho so not bad lol

im blocking that bot lol

[cunning niche]

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠#h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

[rustic vale]

This channel (and category) is for discussing StickyBot. Please go to ⁠#h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

[harsh scroll]

Bro how am I supposed to fight 3 Speeder greatshields on fists 😭

[rustic vale]

Your fault for playing fists tbh

[glacial bolt]

currently dealing 100 damage per shot

[fervent radish]

On base rail without hammers?

Mfw 1000 additive

[glacial bolt]

delta chamber

35%+ from a chaos boon

[summer hazel]

Which boons?

[harsh scroll]

Dark Thirst said so :(

[glacial bolt]

why cant i upload images here?

[harsh scroll]

Send embed link instead

[glacial bolt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/616845281140408355/1362173566442799356/image.png?ex=68016e7e&is=68001cfe&hm=6dd0dc0dc6df68e0fc1124ba24aff9e7caf788ef6d4a17e25f7c40126450a5c9&

@summer hazel

[fervent radish]

Oh you’re counting crits

[mint coral]

Yeah realized the same lol

[glacial bolt]

it is a backstab deadly rev build

175 damage per shot elts go

Did it!

can Aphro call backstab

[jolly granite]

Damn, I feel like a noob when I saw this...

[glacial bolt]

why?

[jolly granite]

Can barely pass Megaera

[final hinge]

youre just probably lacking mirror upgrades and weapon´s stronger aspects to make it easier

[glacial bolt]

i have a full mirror unlock, dw

[final hinge]

but doesn´t really matter that much

[glacial bolt]

you will there

[final hinge]

it´s playable after getting used to

[jolly granite]

I have had the game since 2022 or something

Haven't been able to play because I have siblings who also wanna play

On the PS4

[stiff obsidian]

hard game

[harsh scroll]

Why is family always the toughest boss in any game

[rustic vale]

No

There aren’t any sources that would allow it to

Shadow Presence only gives backstab to strike and special and parting shot only gives it to cast

[mint coral]

Nemesis crest?

[rustic vale]

what

oh

[mint coral]

Or chaos for that matter

[rustic vale]

Forgot that existed ngl

[mint coral]

Fair

[glacial bolt]

then why is my aphro call dealing 4500+?

[harsh scroll]

Because you stacked enough damage bonuses. The base greater call deals 2500

[glacial bolt]

🤔

[harsh scroll]

Or you used those things they mentioned above

[glacial bolt]

So Meg earing is nuff to buff the call to Half HP any boss in the game?

[harsh scroll]

Well if a boost doesn't specify what exactly is affected then everything benefits from it

[rustic vale]

I suppose it could be backstabbing

[rustic vale]

Hades has 17k per hp bar, you’re looking at maybe 25% of the bar

Shame that regardless of the amount of damage modifiers you have a greater aphro call never outperforms an equivalent charge gauge worth of zeus or dio

[mint coral]

Doesn't eris work with her call

[rustic vale]

I think Eris probably makes a lot more sense

[glacial bolt]

Kay so
Eris and Meg earing

thats the best call build, uh

[rustic vale]

Not rlly?

Zeus and dio are right there lmao

[mint coral]

Aphro's call meta is for the loyalty card runs

Jesus strats

[glacial bolt]

i dont follow

[glacial bolt]

im talking about the call buffers

[rustic vale]

How much of a boost is skull earing

[mint coral]

Call charge by taking dmg is dependant on % of hp lost
Have little max hp > get hit by charon > call charged

[mint coral]

35% iirc

[rustic vale]

Then you should be hitting 5000’s not 4500’s

So I don’t think earring is impacting it

[mint coral]

What about phase bubbles gating it

[glacial bolt]

40%

[rustic vale]

Do phase bubbles change the damage number that pops on screen?

[glacial bolt]

it is impacting it, issue is, the damage cap between phases limites the damage one can see.

[rustic vale]

Earring wouldn’t impact dio or zeus you’d be better off with a measily butterfly boost or just running defensive keepsakes

you’d also want to take like rush delivery

[glacial bolt]

are you sure it wont?

it is 40% damage everywhere

[mint coral]

If eris works no reason for earring not to

[rustic vale]

Wait

Is earing just a generic bonus am I tripping

[mint coral]

Yes lmfao

[rustic vale]

I thought it was backstab damage

[glacial bolt]

yes

[rustic vale]

Earing good

[mint coral]

That's nyx

[rustic vale]

nvrmind

[harsh scroll]

The backstap keepsake is Nyx

[glacial bolt]

Yeah Earing is goated

[harsh scroll]

Speaking of which might be the worst keepsake in the game

[rustic vale]

In my defence I haven’t used it once in like the last 500 runs

[glacial bolt]

Good god why didnt i found out sooner

And here i was thinking broken butterfly was op

[rustic vale]

Broken Butterfly

[mint coral]

I was about to say why not use dad's call too

[mint coral]

Appropriate

[harsh scroll]

Pick a side 😭

[glacial bolt]

the point is to make your call do damage lmao

[mint coral]

Yeah I realized before I spoke

[rustic vale]

That was pretty clear to me

[mint coral]

(also you can do that stupid set up from speedcord to get both dad's and pos call at the same time)

[rustic vale]

[glacial bolt]

pos call?

[mint coral]

Wet uncle (poseidon)

[harsh scroll]

You know what would be crazy op? Getting the keepsake display after Cerberus

[glacial bolt]

Ohhh

Oh btw

Does Nyx stacks with itself? like if both undamage and backstab at the same time

[harsh scroll]

Pretty sure they do

[fervent radish]

You can’t have both sides of the mirror active at the same time

[glacial bolt]

its not the mirror, is her keepsake

[fervent radish]

Yeah it probably works like that then

[glacial bolt]

So nyx's is a one off 40%, Meg is if low 40%, then is distant memory just bad

[mint coral]

Yup

[stiff obsidian]

what is distant memory

oh i see

[glacial bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-insanity-walking-walking-back-virtual-insanity-walking-reversed-walking-reversed-gif-10372581163346915305

[stiff obsidian]

makes sense

[glacial bolt]

sorry, i had to

its so funny

[stiff obsidian]

[harsh scroll]

I'm starting to think I soft locked because Nyx and Chaos have never talked about the reconciliation again

I lost count of how much dialogue it has been since I reached locked hearts

[rustic vale]

Distant Memory is nigh unusable before you factor in the damage numbers

[glacial bolt]

elaborate

like it get its meant to be used as like, support for sniper builds

[stiff obsidian]

there are no sniper builds though

[mint coral]

The range for it to proc is too far to be worth

[glacial bolt]

500? isnt that like, 2 dashes or

[mint coral]

Almost no weapon wants to fight at that range

And is all that just for 30%

[glacial bolt]

yeah

even bow builds dont wanna get that far

besides, dad kinda pushes himself too close anyway by default

so in the final battle you kinda cant use it

[stiff obsidian]

30% is insignificant when ur already running like 200%+ additive anyway

[rustic vale]

It’s impractical to be fighting anyone at that range

Most weapons can’t make it that far, the ones that do would rather fight enemies closer

enemies move towards you

which messes up trying to even get it to prok

[harsh scroll]

If you're using Coronacht with Poseidon atk and Second Wave then MAYBE you get more than 1 shot to proc the hit (assuming you'll get the first)

All that work to get 1 use at best and there's still many builds that are much more practical and way more efficient

[celest quest]

Is there a way to temporarily disable hell mode? I have a 100% save file on Hell Mode but now I want to try and maybe do some speedruns. Is there a way for me to disable hell mode for those runs? Or do I just need a new save file?

[stiff obsidian]

can do it with mods

[celest quest]

Any way to not do it with mods? Is it possible to duplicate the save file somehow maybe?

[stiff obsidian]

not sure

the standardized speedrun modpack lets you do it though

i know u said no mods but i had to mention it

[celest quest]

I might just have to try it. Is there a way to duplicate safe files with or without the mod?

[stiff obsidian]

you should be able to by just making a copy of ur save and changing the slot number

[rustic vale]

Yeah

You’d just copy the save file and paste it over to the next slot in your files iirc

It’d be the same exact method you’d use to take the speedrun savefile

but with your own save file

[celest quest]

Iirc? Im such a noob at all of this is there a guide?

[rustic vale]

Maybe? I know it’s very common for speedrunners to just get a copy of the speedrun savefile to cover all their bases but I’ve never done it myself

the speedrun savefile just has everything

[celest quest]

Cool I'll look into it. Thanks for letting me know

[stiff obsidian]

oh right that works

[celest quest]

I figured it out! Thanks alot

[indigo badge]

to this day I'm curious why toggling hell mode wasn't vanilla

did ssg just not consider people may want to do it?

[rustic vale]

Probably due to the jankyness it would have on heat rewards maybe

bounties

[stiff obsidian]

hell mode sucks anyway

[solid glen]

its so cute that theseus and asterius unlock combined attacks when they repair their bond

[indigo badge]

unfortunately, 1 free heat 😔

[final hinge]

The Theseus travelling towards me at 120 mph:

https://tenor.com/view/marvel-rivals-wolverine-kidnap-wolverine-marvel-rivals-gif-3959940584877339914

[opaque shore]

nvm

anyone know if the pinning the boons thing does anything

game loves to not tell ya stuff

[solid glen]

just brings it up on your victory screen for a screenshot afaik

[opaque shore]

ty

is this bot gonna say that every time

[solid glen]

yes

[stiff obsidian]

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

[harsh scroll]

What exactly counts for shackle as empowering a boon? Does something like Urge to Kill count, or only specifically the atk, special and cast boons?

[mint coral]

Only atk/special/cast

Also the effect is only disable for the move with a boon

[harsh scroll]

This might sound stupid but does Hermes count with the speed boosts

[glacial bolt]

no

[glacial bolt]

question, how does undamage bonuses apply to enemies with barriers?

[mint coral]

Like damage control? Or armor

[glacial bolt]

the yellow thingy

[mint coral]

Armor then
The undamaged effect applies there but not on the hp bar (red)

[glacial bolt]

So they keep suffering the bonus damage so long as the red HP isnt moved?

[mint coral]

No, the first hit to armor will apply any undamaged buffs you have then is done

[harsh scroll]

Undamage bonus will apply on armor but not on their HP

[glacial bolt]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-sad-berserk-waiting-raining-gif-11623609

[tidal hazel]

Why cant i gift to sisyphus

Im 1 away from companion

[harsh scroll]

That means you're at the locked heart. Can't gift him until you complete the favor

[tidal hazel]

And what would that be

[harsh scroll]

Void his sentence

Talk to Bouldy at least once, have Meg at 5 hearts (I think), get access to administrative chamber, and talk to Nyx for a bit

[indigo badge]

"undamaged bonus" basically means the very first instance of damage the enemy receives from you

damage control makes it useless so if you're running dc in your pact, swap your mirror to backstab bonus

[mint coral]

Dc doesn't block fiery actually lol

(makes it a lot harder to use tho)

Cuz if you have small dmg ticks to clear it you can accidentally dmg the enemy with it

[indigo badge]

FOR REAL?

[fervent radish]

The first hit after dc is stripped benefits from it. The issue is that you’re either using something weak and fast to strip dc so it won’t benefit much from fiery, or you’re using something slow and big to benefit from fiery but it has trouble with dc

So the two are typically inversely related

[stiff obsidian]

useful in exactly 0 scenarios hough

[fervent radish]

Yeah that’s my point

[stiff obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/drug-anime-girl-gif-26426197

[graceful wraith]

Is the Tiny Vermin a reference to anything, or is it just funny because it's tiny and then it wrecks your entire being?

[indigo badge]

funni

[left edge]

Is there a place where I can check the highest heat beaten on every aspect?

[fervent radish]

Administrative chamber

[left edge]

Talking about other players

[rustic vale]

Or do you mean like

By the community

[fervent radish]

Oh

[left edge]

ye

[fervent radish]

I can tell you off the dome

[rustic vale]

There are like 4 that have done 64 unmodded

[left edge]

Wondering ab Chiron

[fervent radish]

60

Ri2

[left edge]

oo, noted. thanks a bunch

[rustic vale]

Chiron is like 62 no?

[fervent radish]

Nah

Tim is pushing 62

Died at p3 I think

[rustic vale]

I wouldn’t advise using Chiron for heat though

Chiron really does suck at high heat without expert pilotting

[left edge]

ye know, but it's my fav aspect. Reached 50 with it

So just limit maxing

[fervent radish]

Push it as far as you want if you like it

I can’t do Chiron 50 lol

[left edge]

thx, besides hestia again 50 it's my highest heat, again thanks for the info tho

[fervent radish]

Ofc, I can link Tim’s 60 if you’re interested

[lavish sorrel]

chiron 50 is hard but for the wrong reasons
it needs so much to go right to deal proper damage. ... if you had the patience to sit through a day or more of chiron resets, then you have the patience to do every aspect at 50

[stiff obsidian]

unmodded too

peak

[harsh scroll]

There was a run I tried Chiron and the first idea that popped was Low Tolerance maxxing and boy it was fun

Would not do it again

[tidal hazel]

Do i need to deepen relationship with nyx in order to pardon sisyphus

[harsh scroll]

No

[winter parrot]

Hey I have a decision to make here, boiling point, unshakable mettle, and sea storm

Im about to fight the bull or whatever their name is

I’m using the styg blade

[fervent radish]

Sea storm

[winter parrot]

Thank you

[fervent radish]

And then sell it and look for static discharge or lightning rod

[winter parrot]

Can I have more than one duo boom?

Boon

[fervent radish]

Yeah

No inherent limit

[winter parrot]

I’m looking for Zeus’s and Poseidon’s as well

Thank you I just beat Theseus and the Minotaur

But a dilemma now

I use up all two of my death defiances and I have 34 coins

It’s offering me to sell clouded judgement (epic), Floodshot (rare ), and Zeus’s Aid (rare)

I’m currently at 55hp and I might need the death defiances

[rain patrol]

😐

[winter parrot]

gonna take that as a “sell something”

holy hell I’m fighting my dog

[rain patrol]

Dont worry your not killimg the dog

[winter parrot]

I got pegged by poison man

[rain patrol]

Well try again next time

[fervent radish]

Sword you should have Poseidon on dash and Zeus on attack

[winter parrot]

I knew I had it backwards

Thank you

What about Athena’s dash?

[fervent radish]

Safer option, still good

[winter parrot]

Just restarted, breaching slash or double edge?

[fervent radish]

Always double edge

[winter parrot]

Got it

[fervent radish]

Breaching is second best

Best combo for sword is special into as many dash strikes as you have dashes

[winter parrot]

I can see why wow

Just got the nemesis blade as well but it seems to be very hard to control

can’t complain though I just rolled all epics on Aphrodite

[fervent radish]

Nemesis is just base sword with crit rate

[winter parrot]

I have yet to find Demeter

I’ve never seen her before

Is there something I need to do

[winter parrot]

It felt more precise for some reason

[rustic vale]

Clouded Judgement is a pretty easy sell

[mint coral]

reach final boss

[winter parrot]

Thanks

[zinc trellis]

what sound do the Satyr spitting guys make again

[solid glen]

Hawk tuah

[fierce junco]

https://youtu.be/aPccSC9u8do 25:15

[fervent radish]

Zagsword has increased move speed

[brisk trail]

Best game on steam deck so far

[waxen flame]

I was playing hades in my living room WITH MY PARENTS IN THE ROOM and I got to the scene with meg when you have a bond and uhhh

[knotty lodge]

i just know whatever roguelike i try next after im done with Hades will never be as enjoyable as this

then again, I could always just go for Hades II after lol

[winter scarab]

Encourages more special uptime but that’s about it

[fervent radish]

yeah

[winter scarab]

Fortunately it’s a black screen so you good unless the audio was super loud

[waxen flame]

Luckily it was low volume

[rustic vale]

Eh?

I mean from a casual prospective

[winter scarab]

Idk tbh cause nem is the only sword aspect I play

[rustic vale]

But I’m pretty sure the special is part of the dps rotation for all the default sword aspects

[winter scarab]

I’ve never played much Poseidon/zag runs so idk

[autumn jewel]

look zag and meg just trained martial arts in zag's room

[waxen flame]

OHHHHH that makes more sense

I did get the weights from the house contractor

[final hinge]

funny bcs you can do it more times after the bond

she´ll sometimes have a cloud bubble with a "❤️"

not sure if Thanatos too

[summer hazel]

Turns out Demeter cast is actually good.

I always avoided it like the plague

It does so much damage when upgraded

[fervent radish]

It’s pretty bad

Needs the Artemis duo to be on par with good casts

[summer hazel]

Well I mean I only play 32 heat and lower so "good" might not mean the same thing for us. But it worked in the run I did

[fervent radish]

Most things in the game work at lower heats yeah

Dem cast is actually pretty strong on Achilles up to 50

[fervent radish]

The strongest casts are usually ares, Dio, and Athena

Highly recommend ares Artemis duo boon

[winter parrot]

Hey I need more titans blood and I’m not sure how to get it

I’m assuming it’s one per weapon

Or something

So the only weapon I have yet to get it with is the bow

Any bow tips

[rustic vale]

Once you beat the final boss you unlock difficulty modifiers that’ll let you get the titans blood from the Furies fight again

I’ll get to bow tips but I’ll drop all the titans blood info first

You can get extra titans blood from specific minor prophecies, trading (especially black market deals for heavily discounted titans blood), fishing, and the end shop in styx

so blood is infinitely renewable

[rustic vale]

then for bow you really need to be dash striking, and you want to focus in your additive damage on the strike.

Your best hammers are twin shot/triple shot -> perfect shot, point blank shot, flurry shot

aphrodite typically does the best job on bow strike, but your other options are the other goddesses because they all give +% damage to the strike

[winter parrot]

I went with the shield since I forgot about that too

Thank you for the bow tips as well

Does pressure points work towards a duo boon

Since it’s not in a main slot

I got Aphrodite on attack

For shield

Going for heart rend

I’ve got what I’m assuming the best hammer is as well

[rustic vale]

outside of like 2 duo boons, every duo boon pretty much only looks for some combination of core boons (attack / special/ cast/ dash) + call

in the entire game

[rustic vale]

which one

[winter parrot]

Pulverizing blow

So something that’s not in one of those main slots won’t help towards heart tend

[rustic vale]

generally the best shield hammer is charged shot

it changes if you're using like zeus shield

[rustic vale]

I do want to stress that dash striking is just really really important for bow

it makes standing striking obsolete

[whole comet]

I wish i could've played Fresh File with any weapons/apsects...

tried some nexus mods, but game became unplayable and i'm forced to reinstall

[tepid light]

Nexus mods do be like that

[lavish sorrel]

(/heat )

[tidal hazel]

If i do heat 8 will i still get bounties from heat 3

[tepid light]

If you jump heat levels, you get rewards from the last level of heat you were at

So yes

[tidal hazel]

Why is dash striking better with bow?

[mint coral]

faster charge

• keeps you moving instead of being a sitting duck

[indigo badge]

your shot charges much faster for a slightly lower damage, big boost in your damage output if you do it consistently

also more mobility as said above

[tepid light]

Does dash striking with bow actually decrease your damage?

[old bluff]

Decreases base damage but increases dps

[tepid light]

So there's actually a numerical decrease

Interesting

I didn't know that

[rustic vale]

You attack faster, which lets you stay mobile and keep yourself safer while outputting damage at a more consistent rate

[rustic vale]

it drops from 60 at max charge to 40 at max charge

The charge speed boost makes up for this in full, to the point where your hypothetical dps would be the same

But the fact of the matter is you wouldn’t be outputting the same numbers if you were standing striking

Due to the slower attack speed and stationary nature, enemies are far more likely to interupt you

also dash strikes benefit from dash-strike bonuses from Chaos

which does boost the dps of dash strikes over standing strikes in a white-room, while in practice dash striking is better even when it doesn’t have dash strike specific +% boosts

[lavish sorrel]

(mandatory bringing up bow animation special-cancel)

[tepid light]

No yeah I get that

I just wasn't aware there was an actual damage decrease when dash-striking, as irrelevant as it might be

[harsh scroll]

On bow at least the damage difference isn't irrelevant I think

[tepid light]

Maybe 'irrelevant' is the wrong word but I think you get what I mean

Despite the reduced damage, dash striking is still obviously what you want to be doing on bow

[rustic vale]

You deal 2/3’s of the damage but you attack 3/2’s more often so they cancel out for your overall base damage output

[tepid light]

You get what I mean

[rustic vale]

Yeah you already knew that dash striking was better lmao

[tepid light]

You do not get very far in Hades just trying to standing strike with bow aha

[harsh scroll]

You do. At 0 heat

[winter parrot]

Any Nemesis blade tips?

[rustic vale]

If you want to use the optimal dps rotation, it’s dash strike -> dash strike -> special -> repeat

[winter parrot]

Just run an epic Zeus attack boon and Artemis special

[fervent radish]

Start tidal dash and look for double edge

[winter parrot]

Along with double edge

[rustic vale]

Zeus strike is like

[fervent radish]

I don’t think Zeus triggers twice with dedge ngl

[winter parrot]

dawg 😔

[rustic vale]

Very counter intuitive to what Nemesis doesp

[fervent radish]

Nah Zeus is actually fun though

[winter parrot]

I was following what you advised earlier

[rustic vale]

Nemesis gives you a crit chance and you’re abandoning it for pennies on the dollar

[winter parrot]

Who should I look for on attack

[fervent radish]

Anything works except Poseidon if you start tidal dash

Nem is really flexible like that

[rustic vale]

+% lets you make use of the crit chance, or Merciful End gives you enough incentive to not use a +% goddess to be honest

I mean lightning strike and dio strikenwon’t be half bad they just won’t be as good

[fervent radish]

Yeah not saying Zeus is bad, I very much like Zeus on attack

You have a pretty good chance of static discharge and you can pivot into rod

[winter parrot]

I’ll probably stick with Zeus attack and Poseidon dash then

[fervent radish]

You can def be very very flexible with nem so take the chance to try out a lot of stuff

[winter parrot]

I found a dion boon in shop should I buy that or a power pom

[fervent radish]

Probably Pom for tdash

[winter parrot]

Haven’t gotten tdash yet

[fervent radish]

You can easily pom it to level 7-8 and get good damage

[winter parrot]

Still looking

[fervent radish]

Oh

Are you starting with his keepsake?

[winter parrot]

I’m about to fight Meg or whoever

[winter parrot]

I’ve got acorn on rn

[fervent radish]

Oh

[winter parrot]

What keepsake?

[fervent radish]

I would start with conch shell

[winter parrot]

Think I still need to gift Poseidon for that

Should I swap out at any point in the run?

[wispy flower]

How does the god keepsake decide if they want to work or not?
Just started with blood-filed vial yet got a poseidon boon in the first chamber

[winter parrot]

I took festive fog

[fervent radish]

That’s probably the forced Poseidon encourntrr

[wispy flower]

Oh what the heck he just showed up to tell me to fish?

[fervent radish]

Where he offers you call

Or that yeah

Otherwise it will always make the first non Hermes god you’re offered that god

[wispy flower]

ewww I want my doom back

[fervent radish]

Yeah you should atleast take a god keepsake for Tartarus

[wispy flower]

At least Ares showed up in chamber 3

[winter parrot]

Like what

[fervent radish]

Usual rotation is god keepsake for the first 2 regions to control your build and then acorn for the last 2 regions

Poseidon on nem

[winter parrot]

Got it

[fervent radish]

For tidal dash

[rustic vale]

…yeah

“oh no the game is telling me about a game mechanic”

[wispy flower]

I get it. I was just in a hurry to get a good build going after getting skill issued by Hades

[winter parrot]

I found the shade guy who replaces the boulder guy

I’m at 54/185 hp so should I take the 30% one ?

Or boost my attack 60% for the next 10 encounters

[old bluff]

30%

[fervent radish]

He doesn’t replace him

[winter parrot]

So it’s rare?

[fervent radish]

It’s a different shade for each of the 3 story rooms

Nah

[winter parrot]

I’m taking the 30% hp then

[fervent radish]

Each story room is only offered once btw

[old bluff]

Per run

[winter parrot]

By the way

Since I have double edge

Should I now pick piercing wave, double nova, or dash nova

[old bluff]

Piercing wave

[winter parrot]

Got it

Dude I can’t stand Theseus shield

I died

[fervent radish]

Happens

[winter parrot]

What do you think of world splitter

[indigo badge]

sword has plenty of meh hammers

[stiff obsidian]

when u think about it balance in this game is trash

[old bluff]

ye

[wispy flower]

Damn Theseus got hands

[winter parrot]

Might just keep resetting just to spam kill him

[wispy flower]

void stones and flame wheels, that was cheap

luckily I survived

[stiff obsidian]

pretty sure they still kill themselves even with voidstones'

[winter parrot]

What do you guys think of hunter dash, epic posedion special and something else on nemesis sword

[stiff obsidian]

hunter dash good

poseidon special bad

detrimental

[wispy flower]

I found poseidon's knockback to be bad on most occasion

It's not even good on ranged weapons

but especially bad on melee

[knotty lodge]

really? personal experience so far has been that it's great once you get enough boons

[azure ridge]

I always take it on Chiron bow (dash or special), so I don't have to deal with small opponents, especially in the corridors of the stix, where arrows stupidly disappear in the walls.

[knotty lodge]

razor shoals, double knockback, +dmg on body slam, blast after body slam, it all piles up so much that by the time I reach redacted he melts pretty fast if you can get him near walls

[wispy flower]

maybe it's just too uncontrollable for me

and I never know how to reliably knockback bosses either

[azure ridge]

it's not for bosses

[knotty lodge]

i doub tyou'll get much use of it against Tartarus, Asphodel, or Elysium boss but for redacted it's pretty nice

redacted wont get knocked back but he'll still receive the damage if he's near a wall

I tend to use the two circle columns and spin around those then dash in once he 's near them

[azure ridge]

It's for a quick clearing. For example on 50+ heat, some rooms, like armored copying skulls that give out shields to each other can be cleared with just a Poseidon dash, while for many aspects it's HELL or just run killer

[rustic vale]

You can’t really knockback bosses with tidal dash

They have heavy knockback resistance

it’s main use is the shear damage of the dash

I’m not really going to talk about his strike or special bc they really suck

but the dash is the best dps dash in game

[stiff obsidian]

its only good on dash really

and not for the knockback more for the damage

and the boons the knockback works with

[short trench]

Does anyone have tips for farming Titan blood?

[fervent radish]

Increase heat by one and have a good build

[short trench]

What’s neat?

Heat*

[rustic vale]

Once you beat the final boss you unlock a ton of difficulty modifiers you can turn on to add heat to your run and refresh boss bounties

[short trench]

Oh

So

I should probably beat the final boss

[rustic vale]

You can get extra titans blood from specific minor prophecies, trading (especially black market deals for heavily discounted titans blood), fishing, and the end shop in styx

[short trench]

Black market?

[rustic vale]

They’re the limited time deals the broker has in between each run

They only ever off one in between runs

[short trench]

Yeah

Him

Here’s an interesting question

How is that for anything to do with the sequal

[rustic vale]

It doesn’t have to be

The bot doesn’t read messages

[short trench]

Do you mind me asking a potentially stupid question

[rustic vale]

It just keeps its own message at the bottom of chat

Sure

[short trench]

What is objectively the best boon for each attack of each weapon

[rustic vale]

Haha great question it depends heavily on the aspect

[short trench]

Does that make any sense?

[short trench]

Zag

Just base stuff

[rustic vale]

hmm

k so zag bow is between aphrodite and artemis, zag rail is definitely lightning strike, zag fists is Merciful End (doom, but you need the rest of the build), zag spear and zag sword are

mmm

Might be ME as well

[fervent radish]

Yeah

[rustic vale]

shield is aphro or ME I can’t remember

[short trench]

You?

[rustic vale]

Merciful End

Boons are often abbreviated with just their starting letters

[waxen flame]

You will get three titan blood per win plus one every other win

[short trench]

Yeah I know that

[rustic vale]

This is just wrong

[short trench]

I think I spent them poorly

I don’t think I got very good aspects

[rustic vale]

It’s ok since blood is an infinitely renewable resource and even then the limited sources net you tons

[waxen flame]

What did you put them in?

Quick Q: can you dodge multiple times in a row?

[short trench]

Hestia for rail
Talos for gauntlets
Chaos for shield
Hades for spear
Nemisis for sword

[rustic vale]

Yes

[short trench]

Me?

Oh

[rustic vale]

Nemesis and Hestia are good aspects

Actually Nemesis is swords best aspect tbh

[waxen flame]

I quite like hera

[short trench]

Is hestia good?

It doesn’t feel good

[waxen flame]

Hera + trippy shot is fun

[rustic vale]

Hestia is good but at max level that shot does 3 times as much damage

[short trench]

Ah

I only have 1 level in it

[rustic vale]

Right

So it’s a good aspect, just not yet

Nemesis is the best of the default sword aspects and pretty much just the best sword aspect

Even at level 1 it’s really solid at what it does

[short trench]

Chaos isn’t very good

I wish I got sued

[rustic vale]

Chaos sucks

[short trench]

Zies

zues*

[rustic vale]

Zeus is good

[waxen flame]

I have heard that Chiron is really good when it’s maxed though I need to try it out

[rustic vale]

Chiron is… fine

It’s best selling point is the really low skill floor

[waxen flame]

REALLY low

[rustic vale]

It’ll get you through 1-20 heat just fine

But it’s easily the 4th best bow aspect

[short trench]

I’m trying to get the || hidden aspects||

[rustic vale]

Just talk to Achilles at this point then

[waxen flame]

Spear needs to be FOUND

[short trench]

I did

[waxen flame]

Not unlocked

[rustic vale]

You just need to yap at him until you get the dialogue

[short trench]

Wdym?

[waxen flame]

Five titan blood into the weapons then talk to certain people

[rustic vale]

It just needs to be revealed

Before you can get the rest of the aspects

[waxen flame]

You need to be able to unlock it to unlock any other hidden aspects

[rustic vale]

Rather than purchase

[short trench]

On

Wait what?

[rustic vale]

But you still need to meet those weapons individual prerequisites

You’ve met the prerequisites for spear you just need to talk to Achilles until he drops the awakening phrase

[short trench]

I did

Aspect of Guan yu is unlock able

[waxen flame]

Sword : nyx
Spear : achilles
Shield : chaos ( im pretty sure )
Bow : I forgot her name the crit girl
Fists : mini boss form of the bull
Rail : I forgor

5 titan blood into them to get the chance

[short trench]

Okay

[rustic vale]

It’s
Sword: Nyx
Shield: Chaos
Bow: Artemis
Fists: Asterius
Rail: Zeus

[short trench]

Does anyone have tips for the POS Theseus bull fight

[waxen flame]

Right yeah zeus

[rustic vale]

like specifically when they have pos aid or

[short trench]

I always lose atleast 1 death defiance there

[rustic vale]

in general

[short trench]

(Piece of Sh*t)

[rustic vale]

Oh

[short trench]

😭😭😭😭

[rustic vale]

Unfortunate abbreviation when poseidon exists

[waxen flame]

Kill the minotuar first, then go ham on the king

[short trench]

But he keeps sniping men

[rustic vale]

You can bait Asterius to the other side of the map and keep a pillar in between you and Theseus so you don’t have to deal with snipes as much

[waxen flame]

Humble pillars

[short trench]

But what would the OS mean?

[rustic vale]

POSeidon

[short trench]

Oh

[waxen flame]

You just need to always be aware were the king is

Always look at yourself from time to time

[short trench]

Yeah

I suck at that fight

I think is that fight wasn’t as difficult I’d have beaten the game by now

[waxen flame]

Be aware of your surroundings

[short trench]

Also what keepsake should I use?

[waxen flame]

Skull earing

[rustic vale]

Like

[waxen flame]

Trust

[rustic vale]

For the first two areas take keepsakes from the gods you want

[short trench]

Ok

[rustic vale]

And then you can just take a defensive keepsake through elysium and styx

[short trench]

Idk what weapon I wanna use

[short trench]

What’s a good defensive one?

[waxen flame]

If no aid use *********** and you the final area, if you have a good build use ***********

[rustic vale]

Acorn is good for Styx, but otherwise like collar and tooth aren’t bad

[waxen flame]

Oh wait

[waxen flame]

I like the tooth in my first few runs

Though do switch to skull earrings after wards

[rustic vale]

I think collar is better value than tooth cuz then you’re more likely to walk out of the fight with more dd’s remaining

[waxen flame]

When you only have one DD then tooth is better

[short trench]

Huh?

[waxen flame]

When you have three collar is

[waxen flame]

The **s are because you can only get them once you beat the game about 10 times

[short trench]

Oh

So useless to me

[waxen flame]

Yeah

[short trench]

What weapon should I use?

[waxen flame]

Didn’t want to spoil much

[waxen flame]

I REALLY like hera bow though its heavily reliant on good casts

[short trench]

I don’t have that one

So no

[waxen flame]

Uhhh shield

Its good even with no aspect

[short trench]

I really like the spear tho

[waxen flame]

Hidden aspect

Use it

[rustic vale]

Whichever one you want

[short trench]

I don’t have the recourses to use it

I have no Titan blood

[waxen flame]

Oof

[rustic vale]

They don’t have the titans blood for their Guan-Yu to realistically be more than a -70% max hp

[waxen flame]

Well once you beat the game it gets way easier

[rustic vale]

They haven’t

[waxen flame]

Try out waepons

[short trench]

I can get three rn for slaying armoured wardens

[waxen flame]

Use the one you like

[short trench]

Is there a VC somewhere my thumbs hurt

[rustic vale]

Not here

[short trench]

Do either of you call?

[stiff obsidian]

for some weird reason

[rustic vale]

I wouldn’t mind but I’m also walking over to dinner right now

[waxen flame]

I don’t like calling

Though I could listen

[short trench]

What?

Like to a restaurant or like

In Your house?

Don’t leave us unanswered shackle

I need answers

[short trench]

Idk man

I’d prefer if the other person was talking you know?

[waxen flame]

Yeah

Im sorry I just really don’t like talking to people I don’t know

Sorry I couldn’t help more

[short trench]

It’s fine

Tho I good way to get to know people is to call

[short trench]

Of there is another thing

[waxen flame]

?