h1-discussion

[latent moon]

compared to a standing strike

that was before pseudo tech too lmao

grizz has been using it before pseudo figured it out too iirc

[lethal dock]

well achiles is better at dashing round like madlads

[old bluff]

PT doesn’t help much with Rama much

[latent moon]

it does for ely eyeballs

tbf rama kinda sucks for speed

despite having a 5:26 lmao

it's so damn hard

[lethal dock]

i just get a hangover special lol

[latent moon]

that's not fast lmao

[mint coral]

Silliest run possible

[latent moon]

i'd argue 7:30 50 heat is sillier

[old bluff]

5:25 Zag spear is sillier ngl

Build wise

[latent moon]

fair

zag spear having a time that low is cursed

[old bluff]

It’s like 3 epic Chaos attacks with Shackle and plus 3 dashes

[latent moon]

cursed

imagine that on achilles

would that sub5 lmao

does the movement save 25+ seconds

[old bluff]

It is Bablo’s overall pb

[latent moon]

i'm not good enough at achilles to figure that out but it should save some time

oh ofc it was bablo

that explains a lot

[brisk trail]

Question: what does the modding scene look like for hades 1? lots of mods, very little mods? are there mods for adding improvements made in hades 2 for example?

also - does modding the game disable achievements? because i was planning to come back and do some modded runs to unlock the last 6 achievements im missing

[lethal dock]

what about the 6 achievements you are missing tho does it matter

[latent moon]

there's a modding discord pinned in #self-promotion so you can ask there, you'll probably get a better answer there

[brisk trail]

oh cool thanks

[lethal dock]

i was thinkin of buying overwatch is it a cool game

[brisk trail]

Overwatch is free nowadays

Overwatch 2 is much worse than Overwatch 1 imo but in either case this is an unrelated discussion here lol

[sleek cliff]

hi flase sid

[sleek cliff]

they made it a game?

[lethal dock]

wut

[sleek cliff]

i didnt know overwatch was a game

[deft cairn]

I'm trying to beat meg (just started playing) any tips?

[stiff obsidian]

[lethal dock]

keep playing

there really isnt much tip to meg

maybe get some death defiance with darkness

[deft cairn]

I got the first tier of death defiance, I can consistently get to meg, but not beat them, I'm just using the stock sword rn as it's the weapon I'm able to use the easiest rn

[lethal dock]

did you try gifting the gods nectar? you can use athena for deflecting or aphrodite for lots of damage

[jagged hamlet]

Hope you're looking for tells before you Dash instead of dashing around randomly! Also, Dash-Strikes remove the invuln frames from Dash

[lethal dock]

oh also get the greater reflex, 2 dash is very useful

[deft cairn]

I've gifted one to aphrodite, as I get more I'll gift them. I think I have greater relfex, I've just kinda been getting stuff from the mirror that looks good as I can

[lethal dock]

if you find the hammer thingy, shadow slash (i believe is called) deals 300% damage from behind

you can get boons from dionysus for easy damage

[latent moon]

Only on standing strikes, not dash strikes

[deft cairn]

I know last run I got double nova and aphrodite's special thing, and it was doing a lot of damage

[latent moon]

Shadow slash doesn't apply to dash strikes for some reason lmao

[deft cairn]

I probably should focus on a couple of things from the mirror instead of randomly getting all 3 as I can

[lethal dock]

but skyla just keep playing, its good practice and after a while youll find it so easy to beat meag

[deft cairn]

hopefully, I'm sure as I get upgrades and gift to the gods more it'll get easier

[lethal dock]

gifting gods nectar doesn’t necessarily make the game more easier BUT its important if you want a specific gods abilities

[deft cairn]

I got basically an attack speed bonus for my weapon, my attacks feel so much faster

[lethal dock]

try gifting a nectar to cerberus, i believe it will make beating meg a lot easier

dont forget to equip the keepsake btw

[deft cairn]

alright, only keepsake I have rn is from aphrodite

I wish I could get more healing

[lethal dock]

well then maybe try what i told you

[deft cairn]

alright

[solid prism]

what did you think it was

[sleek cliff]

idk

[twilit lodge]

Controversial opinion: Arctic blast is soup

[stiff obsidian]

[lethal dock]

controversial opinion : rare crop is good

[deft cairn]

finally defeated meg

so damn close tho lol

[stone python]

am smoking boons rn

[stone python]

also gj

[deft cairn]

I'm guessing I wont survive whatever is next rn, just from how low I am

[stone python]

the next boss is just A LITTLE BIT harder

and not like

10x harder

[twilit lodge]

I imagine you might not even make it to the next boss

Work on your mirror

[deft cairn]

I made it part way, died at the barge of death

[twilit lodge]

Barge sucks for everyone always

For different reasons but yeah

[lethal dock]

i kinda like barge cuz enemies dont get knocked or run to the other side of the map lol

[mint coral]

I hate barge

At least I never see it

[jagged hamlet]

Next boss is a boney lass

[twilit lodge]

When you get conc and relentless on Chiron but it’s a trash prophecy chase run

And epic hyper sprint + rush delivery (common tho)

Cold embrace has gotta be the worst duo in the game

Or at least top 3

[lavish sorrel]

achilles is too zoomy for most people (including me ofc) I'd say

pretty difficult to play at a top level as well

[twilit lodge]

I feel like if Achilles buff was like eris and lasted for a fixed time instead of hits it would be more user friendly

No idea how that would have to be adjusted to remain balanced

[latent moon]

ngl if it just refreshed after using it again

instead of continuing off the old countdown

it'd be fine lmao

[sonic coral]

Question: Other than maxing ranks / going for higher heat / faster times, is there anything left to max in Hades?
I have already completed:
All Steam achievements
Max all character bonds
Max all keepsakes and companions
Max all weapons with blood
Complete all fated minor prophecies
Buy all house upgrades from contractor

[twin thistle]

wait what

[twilit lodge]

I don’t think I even knew that it did that

[latent moon]

lmao yeah it doesn't reset

[twilit lodge]

Beat 64 heat with every aspect so you get the super epilogue, duhh
|| /s ||

[latent moon]

it normally doesn't matter bc your rotation should be raging rish -> 2x dash strikes -> repeat so you'd ideally have 100% uptime anyways

but like

for general ease of use it can get annoying

esp if you're learning achilles

[sonic coral]

Thanks, its a genuine question though. I enjoy feeling like a "completionist" so I want to make sure that there is nothing else that I have missed (other than the aforementioned items).

[twilit lodge]

Yeah it’s a bit to manage

[latent moon]

i don't think you missed anything

technically all dialogue

[sonic coral]

Perfect, thanks friend!

[latent moon]

oh codex

codex entries

[twilit lodge]

Dialogue being missable is a huge annoyance to me

[sonic coral]

Okay already maxed all those minus some fish 👍

[latent moon]

go beat a fresh file run 🔫

[twilit lodge]

On this save I threw so many runs so that I wouldn’t get my first clear before I saw a lot of dialogue

[latent moon]

all dialogue is kinda cursed

bc that means you have to beat fresh file

boonless has one

mirrorless has one

[twilit lodge]

Mom Pom dad fight

[latent moon]

exceeding the heat bounty has dialogue from meg

[twilit lodge]

But that’s easy

[twilit lodge]

I noticed that this time around

[latent moon]

eating an onion from erebus then going into eury has dialogue

[mint coral]

Pulling a spread sheet after each single conversation to check it off

[latent moon]

lmfao

there's so much dialogue in this game it's crazy

[twilit lodge]

If you haven’t done EM4 you’re missing at least one music track

Just thought of that

Not sure if you’re counting that in all contractor jobs

[lavish sorrel]

FEW TALES ARE TOLD OF HADES

[mint coral]

WHOSE VERY NAME INSPIRES FEAR AND PENINTENCE

[lavish sorrel]

REMINDING US OF THE INEVITABLE FATE WHICH WE ALL SHARE

[mint coral]

I, HOWEVER, MEAN TO TELL YOU SUCH A TALE, LISTEN CAREFULLY

[radiant lantern]

Ive done so many runs but I still havent gotten the husbands back together yet ;-; I just to make the gay happen game, Ive already cleared Orpheus' contract thingy

[old bluff]

The zoomers need to know https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1240373379073052733/1281744648339197984/unknown.png?ex=66dcd539&is=66db83b9&hm=0b7e4a1947e2a82f632c9c300091130c93fc8371ca55905f723aa9ed17695ee7&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[lavish sorrel]

Oh gods

It's glorious

[radiant lantern]

omg that is glorious

[lavish sorrel]

[twilit lodge]

I swear brilliant riposte just doesn’t exist

[mint coral]

Divine dash truly the most iconic art in hades

[old bluff]

Lapis as "ing" is my favorite thing ever

[radiant lantern]

whats everyones favourite god to get boons from?

[mint coral]

Zeus

[twilit lodge]

Chaos

[old bluff]

Arty and Pos :)

[radiant lantern]

I like Demeter, especially the laser cast with the tracking boon

[mint coral]

In a real answer it depends on what I play

But overall I love the feeling of stacking more and more zeus

[radiant lantern]

I tend to stack a lot of boons that return damage

[lavish sorrel]

Athena

[twilit lodge]

True

I’m doing a run where divine dash is actually the best boon

Because I gimped myself hard chasing prophecies

[mint coral]

Divine dash only?

[old bluff]

MIrage best boon 😤

[twilit lodge]

Divine dash deadly reversal is a good way to start actually doing damage

When you don’t actually have damage

[radiant lantern]

Athenas boons are good deflectng projectiles is so useful especially against Lernie

[twilit lodge]

So is killing her

[lavish sorrel]

Do you ever look at somebody (a beo main) and wonder, "what is going on inside their head?"

[old bluff]

Scooting

Lots and lots of scooting

[radiant lantern]

scooting?

[lavish sorrel]

Shield tech

[old bluff]

Movement tech on Shield

[radiant lantern]

ah

I played with the Shield weapon but like captain america, i never once used it as a shield and i died so many times before realing charging bullrush actually blocked attacks xD

i felt like an idiot lmao

[lavish sorrel]

There are two types of players new to shield:

• those who forget the shield is, in fact, a shield
• those who hide behind it for seconds and take things slow because they know that they don't know how enemies attack yet

I too was more of the former when playing casually though I know people who did the latter :]

[radiant lantern]

Now if i use the shield i just cheese the hades fight by using the shield in his second phase and using casts

[old bluff]

Do you know what shield uses casts :)

[radiant lantern]

Theres a shield that uses Casts?????

Is it the hidden aspect I havent unlicked yet?

[old bluff]

Ye

[radiant lantern]

dammit i need it

I have the hidden aspects for the spear and the sword but i still dont know what prompted them

[lavish sorrel]

🍝

[mint coral]

Hidden shield is a tad more specific so you can check the pins in #h1-story-discussion

[stiff obsidian]

wheres this

[radiant lantern]

Ah okay tyyy

[old bluff]

This happened in 2021 lmao

[radiant lantern]

I also play with god mode bc i like the story more and i dont like getting frustrated over and over by dying (even if i have played Hollow Knight but still)#

[twilit lodge]

God mode player detected

[lavish sorrel]

Nothing wrong with it, is there?

[stiff obsidian]

you saying that implies everyones first assumption is that its bad

[lavish sorrel]

It's to go against a common misconception I know of, and which I've heard in relation to various games including Hades before

[twilit lodge]

I said it with no connotation except as a joke since they said it themselves lol

[keen obsidian]

does gifting bouldy actually do anything?

[twilit lodge]

You get a small bonus

For the run

[mint coral]

check your boons menu for heart of stone

[keen obsidian]

o neat

[keen obsidian]

thanks

[brisk trail]

It's random and small. Sometimes it doesn't do anything

[twilit lodge]

Does brilliant riposte have some extra requirement other than what the codex lists?

I cannot get this boon to appear again

[hardy jay]

is it okay to use God mode?

[twilit lodge]

Sure, it’s your game

A lot of the advice you’ll see given here will probably be overkill if you do so

[rustic vale]

Nope

[keen obsidian]

And of the attack athena boond

but like yeah the codex should be all u need

[lethal dock]

well it depends

[mint coral]

god keepsakes in general + acorn

[lethal dock]

well not really but you can get better stuff

if you have a cursed slash kinda build you can go for broken spear

but blocking first 5 attacks is a lot of health

acorn is mostly useful fighting papa but other then that i would reccomend cthonic purse for 150 free cash or cerberus keepsake thingy with +50 health in start can help a lot

idk isnt it titans

i dont know about titans that much really

someone else should be able to answer tho

[mint coral]

lmao

[lethal dock]

suprised to learn cerberus isnt that big in mythology

[latent moon]

tmw you delete 400 hp worth of damage with just 1 keepsake

[lethal dock]

"bananas is typing" feels like someon went rouge

[stiff obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-point-face-with-monocle-this-man-react-him-gif-26503600

[lethal dock]

it is not that useful in low heat especially if you know to dodge hades

[stiff obsidian]

eris or gilgamesh

[latent moon]

i mean what else would be useful going into dad fight

[old bluff]

Eris

[latent moon]

other than keepsake leveling

bc in nearly every situation acorn will just mitigate more compared to tooth or spearpoint

spearpoint if you struggle with styx poison sure

[lethal dock]

cursed slash builds?

[latent moon]

what does that have to do with acorn

[stiff obsidian]

cursed slash build

oxymoron or something

[lethal dock]

it has something to do with broken spearpoint

tbh i usually get pom flower cuz styx has many chambers

[latent moon]

well what does it have to do with that

bc i've never seen anyone talk about that before

[stiff obsidian]

styx is the worst place for pom blosson

[lethal dock]

1.5 imprevious time is enough to restore lots of health

[lethal dock]

idk 🤷‍♂️

[latent moon]

like 6 hp?

it only works on standing strikes

if you have flurry slash too then like idk 12?

i wouldn't say a lot lmao

[lethal dock]

aspect of zagreus and hermes i dont think its 6 hp

[stiff obsidian]

1. you will have many boons so ur pom wont hit the one u want
2. u dont have anything for hades
3. u get like 3 -4 poms only assuming average 3 sack

[latent moon]

even if you doubled it to 12 and 24 with flurry slash it still doesn't really make it good lmao

[lethal dock]

ehh idk

24 is lot

also assuming you attacked before the imprevious

[latent moon]

25 hp back with 5 hits (for acorn to compare) for a total of 125 is less than the average dad smacks

[stiff obsidian]

yea hades hits for like 20+ all the time

[latent moon]

dad smacks normally for 40 per swing, 20 on the skulls

if you only get hit by the skulls then yeah it's technically better

but you're also using flurry and cursed slash

[stiff obsidian]

and with cursed slash ur max hp is like 150 max

[latent moon]

which is prob why you're getting smacked so much lmao

you're also assuming you can smack dad within that 1.5 sec

bc you can get sniped by a skull or he just disappears or whatever

or runs lmao

[lethal dock]

it lasts all fight u gotta give it that

[stiff obsidian]

what does

[latent moon]

sure but it does less overall than acorn throughout the whole fight lmao

[stiff obsidian]

acorn lasts all fight too

[latent moon]

and technically speaking yeah the effects of acorn does last the whole fight bc you didn't take 200 damage lmao

[lethal dock]

well i guess u got a point

but i still think acorn is a bit overrated

[latent moon]

okay so what's bad about acorn

if it's not as good as you think it is then

[lethal dock]

not overrated cuz of bad overrated cuz of so much people use it lol

[latent moon]

bruh

i dont think that's what overrated means lmao

[lethal dock]

basically "given more value then what its worth" no?

[latent moon]

yeah so why isn't it worth as high

it's rated highly not bc a lot of people use it, it's rated highly bc it's really good

and people use it bc it's really good

[lethal dock]

is it that good tho

[latent moon]

i mean we gave our reasons

so yes

what's your reasoning for why it isn't that good

[lethal dock]

well i dont get why everyone uses acorn but not like charons hourglass or hades call r smth

[latent moon]

they do

but acorn is safer

and people care more about safety than damage or rng wells

[stiff obsidian]

hades call is the worst kepsake in the game

[lethal dock]

noo

[latent moon]

it's only good on 2 aspects and 1 build lmao

[stiff obsidian]

id rather use feather duster

[lethal dock]

thats good too if ur fast

[latent moon]

beo hera and ME use it bc of burst damage

[lethal dock]

arguing ur a speedrunner you get like 50 rooms by hades

[latent moon]

but that's all it's good on, everything else doesn't have fast enough dps to make it worth it

[lethal dock]

thats fair

[old bluff]

Eris, Hestia and Demeter use it sometimes

[latent moon]

1.5 sec to deal damage is a prety short amount of time

well demeter is ME

eris makes sense bc of clockets

same with hestia

but it's a less common take isnt it

[lethal dock]

i dont think you are demeter bro

[latent moon]

that's only when you have hermes/chaos juice i think

[latent moon]

true bc demeter sucks

[old bluff]

Depends on if you have Zeus call pre styx

[latent moon]

oh zeus call makes sense

[lethal dock]

aspect of demeter is strong with like that one hammer upgrade that launches shots

[stiff obsidian]

haha

[latent moon]

kinetic launcher is alright

faster special

[lethal dock]

gtg

[old bluff]

Eupper or BC is better ngl

[latent moon]

yeah lmao

kinetic launcher is still good tho

[stiff obsidian]

hm should i stream 62

[latent moon]

snappier special goes kinda hard

[latent moon]

what's stopping you

[stiff obsidian]

no vc

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

[old bluff]

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

[twilit lodge]

This channel (and category) is NOT for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠h2-discussion and talk about Hades II.

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1282044525648281681/ftkbf2t.png?ex=66ddec82&is=66dc9b02&hm=1eabc03f6ae286f79a59cee6d1c70361d482babc85e4421ed5bc628be707153a&

would you take trial for jolt

no boons besides cores

[old bluff]

prob no

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1282045603739865148/WwOtp3I.mp4?ex=66dded83&is=66dc9c03&hm=105454c79c3bd4acc0ffcf59a7b256633aadf66aa36101db44bc9443552e99fa&

is this wat u call endless bluem ee

men

[twilit lodge]

Did I really forget that a 5 sack is possible

[latent moon]

ely moment

yesterday i had a tart moment and got 3 unarmored witches on js3 and nearly timed out in tart lmao

ended up losing the run to styx i believe

[twilit lodge]

I forgot dem legendary works on dad :>

Reap what you sow

[lethal dock]

bro i need to open aspect of bingus help mee 😭

[twilit lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/bingus-dimension-bingus-my-beloved-makesweet-funny-cat-hairless-cat-gif-21047272

[lethal dock]

whats beart bro

[latent moon]

That's 10th win

[lethal dock]

bruhhh

thats some spoiler for someone who didnt win yet bro || mark it up cmon!||

[latent moon]

This channel allows spoilers

[lethal dock]

i dont think its "win" but idk

[lethal dock]

anyways tho just to be safe

im kidding wtf not big deal

3 replies wow

[twilit lodge]

There’s literally no requirement or expectation to play spoilers safe in this channel

[lethal dock]

||i wuld use spoilers anyway||

[twilit lodge]

But to spoiler something you put the text inside || these bars ||

[latent moon]

You can if you want but others aren't obligated to

In #h1-for-new-players then yeah spoiler there

[lethal dock]

i knooww i wasnt that serious

june 23

tbh i knew it for a long time but was to busy with other games

got it june 23 for my bday

nah thats good

i thought that was 20%

so you can get like 98%

[mint coral]

Caps at 80%

[lethal dock]

thats still a lot

imagine 1500 heart

[twilit lodge]

OP isn’t the right term

[lethal dock]

bro its god mode

its godlike

guys i need help

[twilit lodge]

We could tell

[lethal dock]

no you couldnt bro i went to the dentist my chin was paralyzed its gone now but hurts af when i open it

how do i brush my teeth

[twilit lodge]

Your chin is gone now?

[lethal dock]

no the poison

[twilit lodge]

You were poisoned?

[lethal dock]

paralyze poison

[twilit lodge]

[lethal dock]

for your teeth not hurty when we insert sharp objecty

they paralyze ur teeth (and chin)

[lethal dock]

give her outfits bro

well add your own outfit to the image?

just like a very light (weight not color) pink robe or something

[sterile cargo]

I just beat heroes without using my attack... with Chiron aspect... it was so long (with emergency mesure 3 of course)

[lethal dock]

that sucks lol

a reason why i like sticky bot is cuz when i hear 2 notification sounds back to back i know its hades community

[twilit lodge]

Finally encountered the dire snake stone

Like 50 runs in

Sheesh

[lethal dock]

when sneak comes he like nah bro no snakestone no jumping bombers

[twilit lodge]

Snake stone isn’t a tart mini tho

[lethal dock]

what

bro aint it the big flying crystal jhygtfrdftgyhujıkıjnhbgvtcfrdcfvtgbhnjk

[twilit lodge]

That’s the Doomstone

Snakestone is the one that looks like a snake, if you can believe it

[latent moon]

snakestone is the one in styx lol

[lethal dock]

bro are there stones in styx

[latent moon]

yeah the lasers?

[twilit lodge]

Almost had a perfect clear

[latent moon]

they're like blue crystals

[lethal dock]

theyre shields

[latent moon]

that's ely

[twilit lodge]

But my acorn ran out

One hit too soon

[latent moon]

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hades_gamepedia_en/images/0/01/Snakestone.png/revision/latest?cb=20191013032242

[lethal dock]

does getting hit by acorn even count as perfect clear

[latent moon]

that's snakestone

[twilit lodge]

Ooh I forgot I had triple bomb

I could have won quicker

If I had been triple bombing

[lethal dock]

that aint bluee

[latent moon]

ngl i thought they were more blue lmao

[lethal dock]

but anyway that makes sense

[twilit lodge]

Perfect clear just triggers from having full hp when dad dies iirc

[latent moon]

yeah

just full hp

if you enter with like 50% hp and dont get hit you wont get perfect clear

[lethal dock]

maybe thats a perfect clear according to the game

[latent moon]

yeah

there's like a title for it

[lethal dock]

but i dont think thats what defines the perfect clear anyway lol

[latent moon]

which is what he was referring to earlier im assuming

[lethal dock]

i know

[latent moon]

def not lmao

there's hitless and damageless categories

[lethal dock]

damageless=hitless?

or is it like no blod of midas or that stuff

[latent moon]

hitless means like you can't take deflect stuff

i think in damageless you're allowed to use them

no blocking or something

there's an official website somewhere i forget where

[twilit lodge]

I’m referring to when the clear screen says Perfect Clear

[latent moon]

yeah ik

[lethal dock]

oh so hitless u dont use acorn or something

[latent moon]

yeah that's not allowed

[lethal dock]

thats cool tho

[latent moon]

there's prob more differences but i can't remember them lmao

[lethal dock]

nooo i alt tabbed and white google tab blasted my eyes

[stiff obsidian]

in hitless you can take chaos

[latent moon]

oh really

i thought that technically counted as a hit

where's the website lmao

[lethal dock]

damage is health bar lowering but hitless is just no damage from enemies? that sounds weird

[twilit lodge]

Hitless is just not getting hit by enemies I guess

[latent moon]

idk there's specfics somewhere

i can't remember where it is

[lethal dock]

we need a new category like

i cant come up with a name honestly

hitless damageless

[latent moon]

that exists lmao

[lethal dock]

okay thats the speedrun i would watch

tbh people beating games fast arent that interesting anymore lol

[latent moon]

hitless damageless should be a thing at least

there's dash only if you're interested in that

supersoaker

[lethal dock]

yoo thats cool

[latent moon]

idk what else exists lmao

[twilit lodge]

I want to see a no dash category

[lethal dock]

yo thats cooler

[twilit lodge]

Hope you don’t get eury room!

[latent moon]

that's been done before i think i remember someone doing that

[lethal dock]

wtf everythings done

[latent moon]

oh mysterra got soft locked there lmfao

[lethal dock]

no boons

[twilit lodge]

LMAO

[latent moon]

boonless has been done definitely

[lethal dock]

broo

[twilit lodge]

boneless is easy

[lethal dock]

no charons obol

[twilit lodge]

And fun tbh

[latent moon]

the wr for boonless mirrorless is 41 iirc

[twilit lodge]

This does not sound easy or fun

[lethal dock]

surely u cant to that

[latent moon]

without picking up any?

[twilit lodge]

Sure you can

Just don’t spend any

[latent moon]

oh without spending is easy

[twilit lodge]

You literally cannot avoid picking any up though

[lethal dock]

ah yes fighting papa with 25 damage 👌

[twilit lodge]

Enemies drop them and it’s autocollected

[lethal dock]

chaos

[latent moon]

without spending is like every styx meta reward buyer to ever exist lmao

[twilit lodge]

Honestly more of the challenge from boneless

[lethal dock]

thats me lol

[twilit lodge]

Is removing all your bones

[lethal dock]

bro the extra titan blood and diamond from styx adds up thoo

[latent moon]

shackle and hammers buddy that's all you get lmao

[twilit lodge]

It shouldn’t tbh

[latent moon]

also hestia has a base damage of 150

[twilit lodge]

Terrible way to play

[latent moon]

so it won't be 25 at least lmao

[lethal dock]

nahh i hate shops in game

[twilit lodge]

Buying the Styx diamond and blood means gimping your run hard

[latent moon]

300 per shot and whatever hammer of choice they take

[lethal dock]

cuz if i die its like "nooo i had 200 obol" so i always have a lot of obol i forget they exist

[latent moon]

i think ricochet was meta

[twilit lodge]

Yeah

When I did boneless Hestia I did ricochet exploding I think

[lethal dock]

wait

[twilit lodge]

And fated authority so you don’t get railroaded into boons you can’t remove

[lethal dock]

when you do boonles should you get dark foresight or the other counterpart i dont use that i forgot the name

[latent moon]

#h1-victory-boasting message

[lethal dock]

cuzz more epic chance from gods? or more chance of gods BUT hammers poms and stuff?

[latent moon]

the wr run for boonless mirrorless^

[latent moon]

still df bc of centaur hearts

coins to buy hearts lmao

[lethal dock]

bro found a message from 2023

[latent moon]

well i know who the runner was

basic search function

or rather i didn't technically know but i found him pretty easily lmao

[twilit lodge]

I lied

I did seeking delta

#h1-victory-boasting message

[latent moon]

oh yeah rico exploding aren't compatible iirc

bullet cant bounce if it explodes

i haven't done boonless mirrorless bc that doesn't sound fun

boonless i def did a long while ago

mirrorless i did at like 36 heat with ri4 lmao

more recent tho

[lethal dock]

tbh i dont care how good the player is but when they know a runner in a specific category i hereby declare them good at the game

[latent moon]

i spent too much time in the hades discords i just know a lot of people by name now lmao

[twilit lodge]

Mirrorless just sounds painful

[latent moon]

ngl it was kinda fun

[twilit lodge]

Sure I don’t use my DDs on a good run

But said good run is the result of all the nice other bonuses from mirror

[lethal dock]

mirrorles boonless full heat no dash no hit no damage

[latent moon]

mirrorless and max heat mean the same thing lmao

[lethal dock]

@speedrunner some crazy guy will get this record

[lethal dock]

yes but when i add more words they sound harder

[twilit lodge]

Do they

[latent moon]

fair

[lethal dock]

yes

[latent moon]

to people who dont know the pact specifics yes lmao

[lethal dock]

“no healing, no spells, no soul upgrades” or just “soulles”

[latent moon]

lmao sounds about right

if you're looking for insane heat runs mysterra has a ton of them

[lethal dock]

see this guy knows his stuff

[latent moon]

they did left hand only, every beo cast at 60, i think no dashing, every special on zeus shield

[twilit lodge]

Shackle dash only challenge

[latent moon]

that's just a normal dash only run except you have to reset to get tdash start lmao

and no acorn and can't force zeus

[twilit lodge]

Is this real

[latent moon]

what dash only?

it's on speedrun.com lmao

[twilit lodge]

Shackle dash only

[latent moon]

no bc the shackle is pointless lmao

[twilit lodge]

What if you

Get a dash to qualify for Zeus near miss dash damage

Then purge the dash

Lightning reflexes that’s the name

[latent moon]

there's no prereq for that

[twilit lodge]

Oh

Even better

[latent moon]

you can do that if you want

it's just bad lmao

[twilit lodge]

No I’ll let you do it

[lethal dock]

what happens when you afk at papa

[latent moon]

nothing really

that's also been done before

full revenge build

haelian beat em4 with that

[twilit lodge]

Afk dad is super done before

[lethal dock]

bro wtf

[twilit lodge]

It’s not even that hard

[lethal dock]

how dan you win with only revenges???

[twilit lodge]

Just need Zeus ares duo

[latent moon]

yeah auto revenge

get good dodge chances

stack hp

get lucky

[twilit lodge]

Probably doable even without auto if you had enough hp and dodge

[latent moon]

doesnt dodge proc before revenge

idk lmao

[twilit lodge]

Idk either

[latent moon]

it's not revenge if you dodge is it lmao

either way

the game's been out for like 5 years or something, a lot of things has been done lmao

[twilit lodge]

There’s like 50000 YouTube videos of people doing auto revenge dad

[latent moon]

(even tho 64 heat was only a year ago)

[lethal dock]

bro wait u can kill asterius in solo run

[latent moon]

yeah

[lethal dock]

wtf then do u fight the guy i forget his name cuz he sucks so much alone

[mint coral]

He justs pops like normal in the heroes fight

[lethal dock]

awww

[mint coral]

They didn't plan for you killing him in the miniboss lmao

[lethal dock]

bruh

[mint coral]

You want juiced up DoT from hangover/killing freeze and dem's legendary

[latent moon]

i was gonna suggest rama skip but i forgot you need another enemy for shared suffering for that 😔

[mint coral]

Skelly?

[latent moon]

would that work lmao

[mint coral]

Who's getting routed tier dmg to test it

[latent moon]

i mean a route exists

run control at least

i think grizz has a route

he got an insane time with it lmao

features lernie and dad skip

[mint coral]

Damn

[latent moon]

ngl the rama route is so much more cool than beo

[mint coral]

Wait do you have a link

[latent moon]

https://youtu.be/n32qYIzr4C0

just got it lmao

[mint coral]

Banger

For run control do you still need to follow your usual route notes or can you just ball

[latent moon]

@lethal dock ik you said you're not intersted in big damage and fast runs but you should skip to the lernie and dad fight lmao

[latent moon]

it's just ball

the runs are hard coded basically

[mint coral]

Bamger

[latent moon]

so no summon/cast shenanigans i believe or whatever

[mint coral]

Wait are the crits coded too

[latent moon]

probably lmao

he only hits crits

iirc at least

[twilit lodge]

C13 splitting bolt

[latent moon]

damue moment

[twilit lodge]

[lethal dock]

thats some way to beat hydra

wtf happened there glitch right?

[latent moon]

yeah

it's not ever practical to happen in a normal run

you basically have so much god damn damage that the shared suffering just kills immediately

and you skip the phases

[lethal dock]

oh

so its like 3 thousand damage

probably more

[latent moon]

idk a lot lmao

i dont know hp numbers

[lethal dock]

me too

[mint coral]

Finally watched the lernie kill

Beautiful

Skipping to dad now

[lethal dock]

bro wtf that aint speed”running” thats speed teleporting

[latent moon]

also not how the special nearly phased lernie lmao

[mint coral]

I love ichor stacking so much

[latent moon]

lmfao yeah

it's so funny

[lethal dock]

he has to pause cuz he so fast

[latent moon]

yeah that happens lmao

[mint coral]

I remember those screenshots from pseudo planning the beo route and is just zag behind the bars in styx

[latent moon]

lmfao

yeah

[lethal dock]

thats the wrong link

[twilit lodge]

[lethal dock]

bro i forgot the actual video

[latent moon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/857268448039927858/1120119038970970202/speedpain.mp4?ex=66dd7d65&is=66dc2be5&hm=730c48a96256eda26259c6d0f9bbb363a8c28b6c6757a02197e6609ca5687935&

[twilit lodge]

Not the triple reroll ichor ichor

[latent moon]

k33p0ut has to dash strike to control where the dashes go lmao

also entering doors becomes hard

[mint coral]

https://tenor.com/view/flies-lgts-little-goody-two-shoes-muffy-elise-gif-1136440810877944186

[lethal dock]

ah yes the 9484 damage

[stiff obsidian]

zag breaking out of the matrix

[latent moon]

rd moment

multiplicative movement speed kinda breaks the game

visually and numbers wise

[stiff obsidian]

why do you think they allowed it

[twilit lodge]

Because without rng manip this would never happen

It’s mostly balanced outside of that

[latent moon]

sometimes you get a ton of ichors lmao

not often tho

"crazy how you can just buy your build" is a phrase for a reason lmao

[twilit lodge]

Definitely never 6 from one well

Without manip

[lethal dock]

imagine sims character after realising theyre in a pc inject it with a virus and take over ur computer

[latent moon]

you can get 4 tho!

[lethal dock]

is there a 64 heat speedrun tho

[twilit lodge]

Yeah

[latent moon]

there's a route

[twilit lodge]

It’s called the only 64 run there is

[rustic vale]

I mean any 64 heat run is a 64 speedrun tbh

[latent moon]

there's 2

[lethal dock]

what

[rustic vale]

[twilit lodge]

Unless you’re counting routed or seeded

[latent moon]

there's 2 64 heat runs lmao

unmodded*

[lethal dock]

whats so hard bout 64 heat

[latent moon]

getting the build

unironically

[rustic vale]

…

have you looked at the heat modifiers

[lethal dock]

surely some people can do it with guan yin

[latent moon]

they did

modded

[rustic vale]

modded just makes the rng less bad to be clear

[lethal dock]

bruh thats fair

[rustic vale]

same thing with routed

[twilit lodge]

Less bad is an understatement

[latent moon]

quite literally the reason why 64 heat is so hard bc your build is hard as balls to get 90% of the time
10% is bp combos and dad fight

[lethal dock]

no mirror more damage very bad shop hard bosses harder mini bosses fast af enemies with armor perks and lot more enemies in room yeah doesnt sound to bad

[latent moon]

prob some % for time idk

[twilit lodge]

It makes the rng do things that wouldn’t happen in 10000 runs

Yes it’s still “possible”

[rustic vale]

Do it rn and get back to me with how far you get

[lethal dock]

its 1 am

[rustic vale]

I’m not expecting you to last more than 5 minutes tbh

[twilit lodge]

Bro would have to get a hell mode save up and running first

And beat dad

[lethal dock]

bold of you to think i wont just stay in the starting chamber for 5 minutes

[latent moon]

also to put into perspective how 64 heat is an ap2 problem
59 heat has been done on eris unmodded lmao

it's max heat without any ap

[twilit lodge]

Eris is good wdym

[lethal dock]

no seriously whats so bad about 64 heat what makes it the worst cuz speedrunners can deal with faster enemies harder bosses cuz they already oneshot em

[latent moon]

it's the build

like i've been saying

[twilit lodge]

But they don’t oneshot them

[rustic vale]

You can’t oneshot enemies if you can’t get the boons

[latent moon]

getting an actually good build is such a pain in the ass

and then em4 summons

[rustic vale]

[latent moon]

and room rng

[twilit lodge]

The builds you see people speedrun anyheat with do not appear on 64 heat

[latent moon]

and also that

[rustic vale]

It’s a combination of every negative run modifier plus the fact that you literally just do not get your boons

[lethal dock]

ohh i get it its the 2 shield healths making it so badd yess

[twilit lodge]

And if they did you’d have to purge part of them every biome

[lethal dock]

bro if speedrunners cant oneshot what do ey do

[latent moon]

partly

[twilit lodge]

[rustic vale]

+60% enemies and +30% max hp does the same thing

[twilit lodge]

This is some low quality trolling tbh

[latent moon]

dc2 prevents hestia from ever getting 64 but it has a theoretical 62 (it's beaten 60)

ri3 prevents beo from being usable at all

so it peaks at 60

[lethal dock]

yea

[latent moon]

it's different for a bunch of things

some aspects aren't good enough

[twilit lodge]

All the ichors are pushing the boons off the screen of his victory screen

lol

[lethal dock]

cant you just get like chiron and wait round the corner

[twilit lodge]

Just finished the grizz video

Chiron loves dc2

[latent moon]

time

gl making it out of tartarus on time

[lethal dock]

well if theres only 2 runs what time

oh wait yea

[latent moon]

td3 lmao

[lethal dock]

5 minutes i forgot

[twilit lodge]

Yeah you forgot every heat option apparently if you think 64 is gonna be easy or quick ever

[lethal dock]

tbh i cant even do td1 cus like 50 percent of that time is looking for the last enemy cuz the music is blasting

[latent moon]

also 2 unmodded runs, no sane person would ever do unmodded first before modded
unless they only have console and can't do modded

there's like

10 different runners who beat it modded

1 person did it on 4 different aspects modded

[rustic vale]

oh man

[latent moon]

also afaik in the high heat community, there isn't a console player lmao

at least the active players

[twilit lodge]

TD1 is no longer free pack it up boys

[lethal dock]

well if mods make it easy then its not a hard run (no its hard but does it count a speedrun)

[latent moon]

mods dont make it easy

mods make it possible to actually get runs in

[lethal dock]

oh

[latent moon]

it smooths out rng so you can actually have more viable runs

bc otherwise you're spending literal hours reseting for a viable run on the first boon

the 2nd ever run to beat 64 spent a week resetting 8 hours a day

[rustic vale]

It just cuts down on the amount of runs that end super early due to rng tbh

like

[lethal dock]

nah bro its the huge chambers in aphodel

[latent moon]

occasional runs here and there that made it past the first boon but there's still the hammer issue

and jolted

[rustic vale]

It’s 9 minutes a biome though

[latent moon]

modded doesnt make the run easy, it makes the run get out of tartarus

[rustic vale]

Are you not dashing or smthing

[latent moon]

and the runners that have beat it modded dont want to do unmodded bc it's more resetting than playing the game, and they'd rather play the game

[lethal dock]

9 minutes per biome is much when im looking for that witch hidden on the lava

[lethal dock]

wow this speedrun community arent as lifeless as hollow knights wtf

[latent moon]

lmao it helps that there's multiple good aspects for speed and heat

and goals to hit like sub7 all or whatever

40/50 heat all

[lethal dock]

ye

[twilit lodge]

Heat is so smelly though tbh

[lethal dock]

heat is weird

[fervent radish]

Heat is so good though

[lethal dock]

im gonna do the counter heat request in hades 2

[latent moon]

i like heat more than speed bc there's more variety and runs arne't dead until you're actually dead

[lethal dock]

even though i dont own the game

[rustic vale]

Ok but like that really isn’t common

[latent moon]

with speed, the run can be dead by chamber 5 of tartarus lmao

[twilit lodge]

Also like

[rustic vale]

As someone who frequents asphodel

[twilit lodge]

Look for the witch

It’s shooting purple balls at you

[rustic vale]

because I’m running thru the game so much faster

[latent moon]

look for the projectile lmao

[lethal dock]

i cant post at hades 2 noon

[lethal dock]

ur near the raft at the start bro u aint even throwin balls at me just staring into wall

[twilit lodge]

But you said your issue is at the end

[lethal dock]

tbh it didnt happen to me a lot of times but few times in a few runs is a lot

[fervent radish]

At 60+ heat, your build is usually 1-2 boons with a few Poms. The one shot potential in speedruns comes from ichor stacking and rush delivery

[twilit lodge]

Excuses getting kinda flimsy here

If you wanna get better then try

[latent moon]

(or if you're beo or hera, a singular well)

[fervent radish]

Just a completely different situation

[latent moon]

it's always so funny seeing 90% of a beo/hera build being well items

[lethal dock]

okay now i gonna beat like 40 heat cuz mad and yeah my other record is 8 cuz of skellys prize heat is borung but yes i will do it

[fervent radish]

If you want examples of out dpsing heat, look at 50 heat speedruns

[lethal dock]

check #h1-victory-boasting 2 months later

[fervent radish]

Nah do it now

Trust

[rustic vale]

Throwing yourself straight at 40 heat is a recipe to just

not learn

[fervent radish]

And then do 50

[lethal dock]

bro its 1:20 am

[rustic vale]

you’ll have a ton of extra stuff killing you before you can gain the experience

[fervent radish]

Sleep then

[twilit lodge]

You’ve got 8 hours til school

[latent moon]

if you want examples of baller runs, look at ocaml's 7:30 50 heat run

[twilit lodge]

You got this

[rustic vale]

Where on earth does school start at 9:20am

[lethal dock]

bro im bored of low heat i always grind for styx merchant i gonna throw myself into fire

[twilit lodge]

Idk, it was an estimate

[lethal dock]

also its like learning the game all over again

[fervent radish]

Could do 8,12,16,20,26,32, 40

[rustic vale]

Yeah but the thing is the jump from 8-40 is so high you’ll just stumble thru tartarus and die before you really gain any useful experience

work up there in leaps

[lethal dock]

jokes on you school didnt start yet

[fervent radish]

If you’re bored of low heat just bump it up lol

[twilit lodge]

So why you keep saying its 1am smh

[latent moon]

yeah do 8 to 32 first and then 40

[twilit lodge]

Play video games all night you wuss

[lethal dock]

also school starts at 7:30 better be there at 7:00

[rustic vale]

better be there 1/2 an hour early? bruh

that’s whack

[lethal dock]

bro its called school bus

get out at 6:30

i sleep for 5 hours

[rustic vale]

get to bed

[lethal dock]

no

[rustic vale]

stop messaging here

you can talk about Hades tomorrow

if you don’t want to play Hades because it’s so late but you’re ok with texting about Hades even though it’s so late

You’ve got a priority issue somewhere

[latent moon]

bro's just in bed and doesn't want to get out of it to play hades lmao

play hades mobile you coward

[rustic vale]

if he’s in bed just

zzz

[latent moon]

true

[lethal dock]

bro @rustic vale

[rustic vale]

What

Idk in Canada it started last week

Uni started even earlier

[lethal dock]

in here it didnt 🕶️

[rustic vale]

lame

[lethal dock]

bro i keep forgetting ur avatar is a crane and not gojo

[rustic vale]

a crane

[lethal dock]

paper crane

[rustic vale]

🦕

It’s one of these

[stiff obsidian]

thats the weirdest crane ive seen

[lethal dock]

yz

[latent moon]

it's a balloon

[lethal dock]

bro its a duck

[rustic vale]

it’s a brachiosaurus for goodness sake

[lethal dock]

its a bird

[latent moon]

pterodactyl

[rustic vale]

why on earth does everyone think any folded paper is automatically a crane

so many people

have been like

“Oh is that a crane”

[latent moon]

tbf it has a long neck like a crane

[rustic vale]

where are the wings

[latent moon]

the body does look kinda spread out

also an oragami brachiosaurus isn't necessarily common

[rustic vale]

Most things that aren’t cranes aren’t really in the public eye

😔

[latent moon]

and the closest equivalent to your pfp would be a crane even if it looks hella weird lmao

[rustic vale]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1277479143063163013/IMG_8525.jpg?ex=66ddcb6a&is=66dc79ea&hm=2917c347bb5452133ef66b6f2dad650aa4b3c8695fe88a24a07d4b07a5bf33ff&

[latent moon]

also imagine telling someone "that's a weird ass looking crane in your pfp" if it was a crane lmfao

[rustic vale]

I’d die

[lethal dock]

broo your avatar low pixelated looks like some small arms character praying

[old bluff]

That's a weird ass looking crane ngl

[rustic vale]

Thanks I tried my best

[latent moon]

lmfao

[rustic vale]

[twilit lodge]

Oh look a crane

[lethal dock]

guys

why cant i post at hades 2 for somereaosnn

[twilit lodge]

Not cool enough possibly

[mint coral]

Did you take the feedback role

[twilit lodge]

Does triple shot not work with Hera or did I forget how to play hera

Nvm I don’t have a cast yet, I was expecting to see the cast

Forced into Demeter on a trippy flare hera run

Oh goody

[old bluff]

Triple shot works quite well

[sacred maple]

Little rant, sure would be nice if the game told me when the Athena DeathDefiance boons do or do not give a DD back. I had an additional DD from Chaos, lost a DD, got one back from the charon well, and so I assumed because I was still lacking a "natural" DD that Athena boon would work. It didn't of course. A warning would have been nice

same vein, sure would be nice to know in the description somewhere that the healing on attack hammer of excalibur doesn't work on dash-strikes (why btw?), esp when you're running double edge -_-

[stiff obsidian]

yeah thats half of why it sucks

also athena dds do refill your lost defiances , i dont understand

[mint coral]

I'm sorry but you are the first one I've seen make a distinction about "natural" dds

[old bluff]

oh no

That is quite unfortunate

[twilit lodge]

Hammers that say Attack are kind of inconsistent unfortunately

[mint coral]

shadow slash also doesn't apply to D.strikes

[old bluff]

Breaching does for some reason

[sacred maple]

So I had lost a DD, but then got it back from charon. So I thought maybe I would get a new one because I lost one, but the game considered there was no empty DD slot to refill

[sacred maple]

that might be inconsequential ahha. I knew if you have your 3 starting DDs, Athena doesn't give you one more, but I thought maybe there would be a distinction between your starting DDs (with the zag face) and the one given by Charon, Chaos or Skelly (who all have different pictures on them)

[old bluff]

Nope, Athena only restores lost DD's, it sadly does not give new ones

[stiff obsidian]

ah

[mint coral]

I just took sisyphus coins with pauper

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233761560653205546/1282137340491599933/image.png?ex=66de42f2&is=66dcf172&hm=ce167b04f10fc44010d1ed0597aca0e0b2411f15ed91b46721a6b7cd846bb3fc& in other stuff

rate my build

[old bluff]

0/10, gilga kills it

[mint coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233761560653205546/1282139543524474992/image.png?ex=66de4500&is=66dcf380&hm=3cec8b32d8b93fec78ee17ae464324b9a4507c7f4ef28fbf9ececfa68a14139a&

[old bluff]

Nice pace

[mint coral]

what do I even take here

plume for rd?

[old bluff]

Ares for ME

[mint coral]

oh this is a meme run

dash only but also I'm not taking lightning reflexes

[old bluff]

oh

[mint coral]

if you see me starting divine dash on gilga on any other day just assume I was replaced

[old bluff]

You should be on Stygian to increase RD odds

[stiff obsidian]

thats my usualy build at 50 heat

[old bluff]

Also plume prob the play here, yeah

[stiff obsidian]

i start divine dash

and dont get an attack until like

ely

[mint coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233761560653205546/1282140683188310151/image.png?ex=66de460f&is=66dcf48f&hm=74aae5ab9978108f171748dfe67c83254eda1f9b0b3f2bd12adef1b4ae1df973&

eury lmfao

first heroic rd in ages and is divine dash only

[old bluff]

Nice

Now for the hard part of getting Hyper sprint

[mint coral]

I think I should've done thick skin

[stiff obsidian]

did you lsoe

[mint coral]

nah

but no way I'm keeping hc on lmao

at least I have money to spend on hp

and got back a dd from athena

Than just saved my ass

[mint coral]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1233761560653205546/1282142560189681706/image.png?ex=66de47cf&is=66dcf64f&hm=420665fda5946836e6aa5ec22f6fe5c18e51a2c97258277fe2b7035db1a22615& this is your fault

I'm just gonna take dashes

I need actual iframes

[old bluff]

You cannot fathom the amount of times I have gotten epic RD and no Hyper sprint

[mint coral]

epic pp

actual dps up

[old bluff]

When the PP is epic

[mint coral]

before blue lernie probably kills me

bathroom break

I love that the roars trigger rr

I shouldn't take the miniboss here

[hardy jay]

Ok can anyone tell me why tf Thanatos just suddenly appear and challenge me to a game of Who gets the most kills

[mint coral]

"noooo I'm not trying to help you, I just wanna challenge you"

[hardy jay]

He got my health lose 90% of it

....Bruh

[mint coral]

he didn't do that

tho ig his encounters are longer than average iirc

[hardy jay]

....i thought he was gonna help me but instead i got my health chunked off by enemies because He challenged me

and i lost

because the Enemies health bar turned Purple

[mint coral]

I mean

you would've fought enemies anyways

turned purple only means Than is about to insta kill them

[hardy jay]

But damn Thanatos look very fine than Death in puss in booths

[hardy jay]

thats his move?

[twilit lodge]

He puts a scythe over their head and they die after a while

Or he puts purple on the ground and they die after a while

If you’re struggling with the enemies in your than encounter you can just hide and let him win

[hardy jay]

And what if i win

from his challenge

[twilit lodge]

But your build is probably not gonna do so well for the rest of Elysium

If you win you get a free heart

[mint coral]

you get max hp

[hardy jay]

I Crave for Ares Boons

I like Doom

[twilit lodge]

I like killing the enemies

[hardy jay]

The game kept giving me Aphrodite...Stop baiting me even if that her accurate greek mythology

[twilit lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/pings-off-reply-pings-off-reply-ping-discord-reply-ping-gif-22087396

[hardy jay]

ok.

tho Hades remind of the prototype games, Fun and Being A boss

[mint coral]

dad time

I can't even destroy skulls this is painful

[twilit lodge]

Your first mistake was not pomming ddash to lv50

[mint coral]

true.jpg

[twilit lodge]

Uh oh

Just realized that I forgot to buy the 3 DDs

When I last reset mirror

Because I reset it and played SD for one run

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1049898804234698772/1282158087481851965/IMG_4382.jpg?ex=66de5645&is=66dd04c5&hm=ded4f199fff49472202c407901ec1bea8d8f39b5c4a0c3f2e029a3603099a296&

This is probably fine

[tepid crystal]

anyone think that having an all-zeus build for bow is one of the best loadouts? i’ve been trying to use his keepsake to get a better chance of his boons and it seems to be working but are there anymore effective loadouts? thanks

[twilit lodge]

All the Zeus is good in general

But there’s some better options for most bow aspects that take advantage of the decently high base damage of charged shots

[mint coral]

for bow not really but oops, all zeus def works

[narrow loom]

rama zeus...

Mmm

[old bluff]

Zag bow generally runs Twin + Tdash or Triple plus Arty attack

Zeus cast and call are very much preferred on Zag bow tho

[tepid crystal]

yep nice

[twilit lodge]

Heroes meg is tap up then summon right?

[tepid crystal]

you got a good loadouts? not very specific but kinda alternatives to the one you mentioned if u don’t get them

[old bluff]

Yes

[old bluff]

Check the third pinned message in the https://discord.com/channels/456889434672201729/520688402958516254 channel for more specific bow builds :)

[tepid crystal]

much appreciated!

[hazy path]

I tried aspect of Zeus for the first time today and it’s insane lmao. I knew it was good but sheesh.

I’m so used to chaos i never gave it a run

[twilit lodge]

Here I was worried about how I forgot to buy back my DDs on mirror

And then I ended up one hit away from a Perfect Clear

[hazy path]

Actually nvm i just lost 2 DD to the Medusa miniboss lmao. Still need to learn how to pilot this thing

[twilit lodge]

Zeus shield has a really high skill ceiling

[hazy path]

Yeah that’s why i never ran it. The idea looks strong

[twilit lodge]

Levelled up authority so I could use it for prophecy rather than just having it at 0 so I could avoid getting railroaded into bad gods

And then forgot to use it because I’m not used to ever using it

[hazy path]

When i use the special, i kind of forget about it so it’s basically somewhere else while im in combat.

There’s a build with charged shot on it but I don’t like it.

[twilit lodge]

Charged shot is realllly good

[hazy path]

Yeah maybe I’m using it wrong with the special

[old bluff]

Charged shot on Zeus is really hard to use

[hazy path]

With bull rush I kinda use it to attack and evade. I wasn’t really good with bow so it feels similar