h1-discussion

[lethal dock]

i may be a 1:11 late to ask but who cares

[narrow loom]

heart rend is an aphrodite and artemis duo boon that makes crits do 150% more damage

if the opponent is inflicted with weak

[lethal dock]

yes i know that but does crit deal %300 or %350 with that

2x1,5 or 2+1,5

did u die

[lethal dock]

@/mod

[twilit lodge]

Normally crits deal 300%, heart rend crits deal 450%

[tepid light]

Booting up hades again for the first time in a while

spear, shield, bow, or rail?

[twilit lodge]

Yes

[tepid light]

choose one for me

[twilit lodge]

Spear

[tepid light]

aight bet

achilles here we go

[lethal dock]

i like spear too

i usually play hades tho

damage bonus is insane

[lethal dock]

yeah that makes sense i calculated with +200% rather than 300%

[obsidian drum]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1248152852770066483/1280577226349215865/image.png Zagreus each time he has to drink the water of the fountain in the Temple of Styx

[viscid latch]

LOL, perfect description. 😄

[old bluff]

Guess what I found lmao https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/od3wq7/comment/h3yuz30/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

[naive belfry]

Why can't I find the Hades OST anymore on spotify?

[old bluff]

Nobody knows

[naive belfry]

• Correction, I see the playlist but there's a lot of songs not available anymore :(

[jagged hamlet]

And it ain't sarcasm: nobody actually knows

[naive belfry]

damn. I hope we'll find out

[fervent radish]

idk man as

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/502817768513470474/1280584654508003328/2EyqOnX.png?ex=66d89ce5&is=66d74b65&hm=fe3a740fb7e07b14d626604b569cbb9d48334575a787ed77b4949294fac8499c&

how does aphro start end up here

[fervent radish]

just AP2 things

[stiff obsidian]

yes its in the screenshot

and the touch of styx premium from patty restores +50% per defiance

[lethal dock]

stubborn defiance is cool and all but aint deaht defience better with the bosses and all

[mint coral]

For high heat the rooms are worse

[fervent radish]

You can generally practice to get hit very little during bosses

BP2, FO2, DC2, HL5, JS3, CP2 tend to make rooms unpredictable and more dangerous

[lethal dock]

ah yes random numbers and letters i dont understand

[mint coral]

Pact abbreviations pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies

[fervent radish]

My bad, basically enemies move faster, do more damage in exciting and new ways, and are harder to kill

Also there are way more of them

[lethal dock]

ah yes but then isnt death defience better anyway when you encounter a hard normal encounter cuz of 3 livez

[mint coral]

You also have no healing

Stubborn works as your main heal

[fervent radish]

But then you have none for the other encounters

[lethal dock]

okay then that is acceptable

[fervent radish]

It’s not that there’s a few encounters that are hard, most of them are very dangerous

[mint coral]

You can easily lose your 3dds in like ,3 awful tart rooms

[lethal dock]

i dont really die with death defience anyway but its conforting with like 3 livez lol ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mint coral]

At low heat dds will always be comfy yeah

[lethal dock]

its reversed in high heat ig

[mint coral]

Also you can still gain dds with stubborn

[lethal dock]

chaos?

or tooth

[mint coral]

Athena

[lethal dock]

bruh

[mint coral]

If you use stubborn then in the same room take either of her defiance refill you'll gain a DD then stubborn is back next room

[lethal dock]

oh is that intended

[mint coral]

Sgg knew about it and didn't fix it

[lethal dock]

so technically intended

[mint coral]

Yeah

[lethal dock]

"its not a bug its a feature guys"

[fervent radish]

It makes sense to keep it in the game

It’s a useless boon otherwise

[lethal dock]

thats true

[mint coral]

That +10% hp/extra impervious still kinda nice

[fervent radish]

Eh

[mint coral]

Not saying it would save it

[fervent radish]

It’s not really a significant amount of health

[lethal dock]

how did u come up with ur name

[fervent radish]

Idk

[stiff obsidian]

pls tell

[fervent radish]

i forgot tbh

[lethal dock]

PLS

such story of such name should not be forgotten

[fervent radish]

I forgot idk what to tell you

[lethal dock]

hell u

wait i forgot this is hades community

heaven u

[fervent radish]

🗿

[lethal dock]

👌

theres a pokemon

called Appendix

dragon type

maybe that?

[fervent radish]

No

[old bluff]

The Appendix is an organ lmao

[lethal dock]

i know

next to intestines

[open idol]

hello

so what do i do after beating the game 10 times?

like is there any new content and/or story?

[latent moon]

Yeah there's epilogue

And finishing bonds with characters and whatnot

[fervent radish]

The new content is mostly playing with new aspects and increasing the pact of punishment

That’s about it for story though

[open idol]

anything beyond collectibles and perfection?

[open idol]

oh ok ty

[latent moon]

Well the epilogue story part

[latent moon]

Technically speaking that isn't new content

But yeah true lmao

[fervent radish]

Well em4 only unlocks after 10 wins

[latent moon]

Oh true

I guess that's the only actually new thing then

[fervent radish]

So technically new content, and I’m assuming he hasn’t cleared with every aspect

[latent moon]

Yeah lmao

[twilit lodge]

You have to beat 64 heat with every weapon to unlock the super epilogue

||/s||

[latent moon]

The super dialogue is just sgg posting a tweet about you (not guaranteed)

[lavish sorrel]

Modpack appears to patch out this piece of dialogue

[fierce junco]

@fervent radish i told you it was awful LOL

[fervent radish]

You chose those boons lmao

Just don’t tbh

[fierce junco]

im aware on the pointers though, dio on special, and dash was awful

[fierce junco]

i had no special, and i had dash from the beginning, which was what i based it around, was hoping for demeter and had athena on strike which i purged knowing i would sell it later

[fervent radish]

🗿

[fierce junco]

was just out of options, got sack on second door and had full health, didn't want to chance a thing, 'specially since i wanted it over with since I could spend the 25k darkness i got on that run too LOL

but yeah, maybe if i was good on good builds id post those more

[fervent radish]

Do you like to play meta or random stuff

The meta for Lucifer/eris/zag rail is pretty straightforward and powerful

[fierce junco]

just random

im ngl, i was hoping for artemis on my special, but i didn't get her on anything and i just wanted something on my special 😔

[stiff obsidian]

exciting 😊

[fierce junco]

next run i get artemis on coronacht attack, and demeter on chiron special, wtf is this 😔

[stiff obsidian]

thats good whats wrong

[fervent radish]

That’s pretty good yeah

[fierce junco]

i wanted it on the run i just posted LMFAO, ofc its good

🤝

[stiff obsidian]

ah i see

[twilit lodge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1049898804234698772/1280705552497905786/IMG_4284.jpg?ex=66d90d7e&is=66d7bbfe&hm=88d086309fa874f56e5b66f4f72e58b653df6e075fc7ed630b5da3e194202617&

Chaos was like, heard you’re running cast Achilles and just wanted you to know I hate you

Blindly got Athena and Lightning phalanx though

[mint coral]

What no rerolls does to a new save

[twilit lodge]

Truly

[rustic vale]

Nah purple eclipse goes hard

Oh wait is this a new save

I can see why you might not want eclipses when you get no darkness

[twilit lodge]

I mean I also might not want eclipse when 90% of my damage is my cast lol

Though I ended up burning hella health anyway on a duo room

But yeah this is a heat push run so the eclipse wouldn’t do me much good here

[mint coral]

Wait why do you have nasty dash

[twilit lodge]

Filling cores tbh

You creeper

Tempted to sell smair since my call is Aphrodite

[mint coral]

Smair aphro is funny

[twilit lodge]

But it’s actually not a terrible thing to have a quick charm

It is

It makes Theseus phase 2 silly

And it’s very helpful for safety in dad

Hmm I have triple jab and massive spin

I think I anvil for fun and prophecy chase

[rustic vale]

Even with td1 on you’d be fine

[twilit lodge]

Lost triple and gained serrated and breaching skewer

No prophecy gains

[mint coral]

Sad anvil

[rustic vale]

No rng manip?

🤨

[twilit lodge]

Don’t care enough

This is a won run already and I have plenty more to go

Don’t see tunnel Hermes often

Tfw the game makes me choose between prophecy and epic jolted

[rustic vale]

If it’s a won run

Just take prophecy

[twilit lodge]

I know but epic jolted is juicy

Nooooo I fell for the oldest trick in the castspect book

Now two of my stones are in dad pond

[mint coral]

Lmfao

[old bluff]

Latt a cast did ya

[mint coral]

Curse of phalanx

[twilit lodge]

Phalanx really does love to eff off into the void

Even if you don’t miss

[twilit lodge]

I should learn how to play Talos other than just the ping pong build

[latent moon]

the only other tech i know is that you can pull an enemy closer but before you actually uppercut them you dash away

so that way you're not stuck in ages using a crappy special lmao

[twilit lodge]

I decided on time honored traditional Talos tech

Ignore it and build fds

I did get pos special for the hell of it

And c1 hammer was the heal on special kill so I’m using it to finish enemies sometimes

[fervent radish]

just play ME

[twilit lodge]

Mass effect was a cool game

It’s a little late to pivot to ME anyway but I have purple splash dash lv3 so it’s doing most of the work

Oof sea storm showed up but so did cold fusion which I need for prophecy

[stone python]

why is coding so hard (i cant code)

[lethal dock]

yes

[stone python]

i have suisidal thoughts!

i finnaly did was i was doing in the uh code

[lethal dock]

yes

[stone python]

yes

[lethal dock]

okay what code anyways

[stone python]

stuning enemys when they get hit in a area of a flashbang

it took a hour since i suck at coding

[lethal dock]

r u working for cs go

[stone python]

am working for myself

[lethal dock]

bettert

[stone python]

aka am bored

[lethal dock]

when you launch the demo ill come

[stone python]

its prob not gonna come out

this is really just for learning

[lethal dock]

aw

i want to play a more fun ads

[stone python]

aka its on roblox since i have crippling depression

its gonna come out am just self consious of the work i do

and am lazy

and am depressed

and i need sleep

[lethal dock]

yes

[stone python]

why god

am gonna cleen my desk of 24 dr peppers

[lethal dock]

ill come with vpn if its on roblox

roblox is banned here for some reason

[stone python]

its prob gonna be bad

since

I CANT CODE

also its for a ugc thing

aka

uh

i work for a guy

aka i help a friend

with a ugc thing

and i got bored one day

inside of a little mikes

so i made a game idea

scrapped it

then started on this

i could send you uh the items ive made

[lethal dock]

#off-topic-discussion

[stone python]

oh yea bet

[broken sluice]

hey did anyone else notice, some Hades 1 songs have been removed from Spotify. In The Blood, On The Coast, The Unseen Ones, Rage of the Myrmidons and Field of Souls is no longer available

[lethal dock]

ambroisa delight or nectar

[broken sluice]

Anyone else see this too?

[lethal dock]

ya

bro is that arthur eating carrot

or is that like mgs

[broken sluice]

it's big boss from mgs lol

[lethal dock]

bruh

it looks like arthur alright

[broken sluice]

lol

[lethal dock]

i have like 3 common and very useful boons rare crops go pick the only usseles epic

[signal cosmos]

Could somebody help me? With getting the aspect Gilgamesh, I literally met asterion 30 times with fists, and still can't get it

[lethal dock]

did you spend titan blood on the fists

more than 5

[signal cosmos]

Yes, I maxed all other aspects

[lethal dock]

i think you need to get another hidden aspect first

[signal cosmos]

I already have all other hidden aspects

[lethal dock]

bruh then idk

[signal cosmos]

I actually maxed everything in this game, except this

Finally, got it!!

After like 30 runs

[viscid latch]

So I "beat" the game. Boy, the amount of work that went into it is astounding, truly! I haven't found a game with this much obvious passion put into it in a long while, especially an indie game! The soundtrack, the story, the mechanics, gameplay, it's all so balanced, and honestly is probably my absolute favorite game right now.

I mean and how the credits roll during our descent into hell is amazing, and it does the credits so well you literally want to read all the credits and see the names of all the people that made this absolutely stunning game! Also, to see how many voices that one person could do, is a marvel.

I think this is the best channel to say this, but if it's not I will delete it, just really wanted to say my piece on it! Now to try to beat all the Heats! 😄

[mint coral]

Congrats on the credits

[rustic vale]

Lot of mentions

about it here

No clue why it was taken off

[lethal dock]

pharagraph

[viscid latch]

There, fixed it! 😂 I'm usually better at splitting paragraphs LOL.

[lethal dock]

okay now i feel like playing hades

[lethal dock]

“Finished the game, they worked really hard on it and it was fun. Easy mechanics, nice story and music. Nice ending, I will try to beat the heat levels now, keep up the great work!”

[viscid latch]

Okay, but you see, I'm sorta in highschool and essays are heavily part of my life. 😄 They want lots and lots of words 😂

[lethal dock]

quite fair

[viscid latch]

Yeah, school is making Discord hate me! 😭 /jk, I think

[lethal dock]

nah

u look smarter when texts are bigger

[viscid latch]

LOL maybe 😄

[rustic vale]

Nah

It depends

[viscid latch]

Yeah, the longer Reddit posts are usually the dumbest...

[lethal dock]

bruh just casually almost not taking any hit then hit by boiling blood like die wth

murphy be hitting hard

[jagged hamlet]

So far I haven't seen any comma splices or misplaced apostrophes from you, so I'm proud of you!

[hazy path]

I completed a build in a run for the first time and it feels amazing. I never speed ran the 2nd stage in Styx like this ever. It’s weird not losing a DD in a run before but great feeling lol.

[lethal dock]

cool bro

[open idol]

so what are the locked things in the keepsake collection and how do i get them?

(im just past the credits)

[mint coral]

Ambrosia to specific characters

[open idol]

ive given skelly 6 nectar and he doesn't have a sign to gift anything anymore

[mint coral]

You are at the lock then

[open idol]

i know he gives me something on the 7th gift

[lethal dock]

there is some story milestones for characters

[mint coral]

Every character needs a favor/quest to unlock ambrosia gifting

[lethal dock]

exactly

[mint coral]

Some of them are related to just talking more/others have something related to a prophecy

And hermes/pos have specific requirements but not related to their prophecies

They are all on the wiki

But for skelly is completing his prophecy

[open idol]

ok ty

[lethal dock]

i wouldnt reccomend checking the wiki cuz obiviously spoilers

stories are cool

[lethal dock]

hows genesis evangelion

[open idol]

its awesome?

[lethal dock]

i like the part where it existed

asuka sucks tho

[open idol]

that usually means you didn't get what she was representing but thats ok

what do y'all think is the best weapon?

[lethal dock]

i like the stygian blade cuz its simple but i suck t the game

[mint coral]

Hidden shield

[lethal dock]

tho games balanced for most of the part so it wont be a huge difference

[open idol]

...
is the blade known as being broken?

[lethal dock]

i dont think so

hidden shield is tho

[rustic vale]

Not at all

[mint coral]

Sword is a weapon

[rustic vale]

if anything sword is broken, just not in the “overpowered” sense

[lethal dock]

if u pick weapon according to your playstyle it would probably be pretty strong

[lethal dock]

stygian blade is broken literally tho

more shattered i think

[rustic vale]

the real difference between aspects and weapons only really comes out when you’re taking them to the difficult/extremes

[lethal dock]

yea

i dont know how they manage to keep all the boons and weapons balanced (for most of the part, there is some power difference but its minimal)

[open idol]

just started a run with it
i get it now

[twilit lodge]

Hidden shield and hera bow combine the best part of casts with the speed and mobility of strikes/dash strikes

They’re both really good

[lethal dock]

i like aspect of chiron cuz its kinda fun

[mint coral]

Which cast are you using

[lethal dock]

is it worth it with stygian soul

[mint coral]

Only for trippy flare

[open idol]

cast?

[lethal dock]

bloodstone thing

u throw

[mint coral]

The red stones

[open idol]

yeah
is there anything other than the base one?

if you mean the boons i havent gotten a cast boon yet

[mint coral]

Yeah I meant cast boon

[lethal dock]

wich cast good with beo anyway

[mint coral]

Pos>>aphro>>>>>>dio

[lavish sorrel]

(assuming an everyday unseeded context)

[open idol]

wait sry i have a zeus cast

[mint coral]

Dio is as strong as the others numbers wise but its consistency is a pain in the ass

[lavish sorrel]

(I'd even say dio is stronger than the others)

[mint coral]

Ouch

[open idol]

what even is poseidon's cast?

[lethal dock]

flood shot

t has cool duo stuff

[mint coral]

Big explosiom

[lethal dock]

knocks foes away

[mint coral]

The reason why is the best for beo is due to mirage shot

[open idol]

oh i got it

[mint coral]

Flood flare barely has knockback

[lethal dock]

knocks foes awayish

[mint coral]

Which is bugged on the flare version of your cast

(beo converts all casts from shot to flares)

The bug is that the 2nd cast from mirage comes at full power instead of the intended 30%

So it just doubles your dmg

And then pos cast is the fastest way to get mirage + big aoe

Aphro is usually for high heat runs where getting mirage is way harder and the dmg from pos doesn't cut it

You can use aphro + snow burst from dem and priv status to get some good dmg

• you also have a shield

Trippy is a wild card cuz it has an extra bug

Poms are double of the value shown

So for example a common lvl 1 trippy flare does 100 dmg

Pom it once and now it does 220 (first pom is +60)

The issue comes that you wanna use stygian soul to get your stones back while the fog stays on the ground but only 1 cast is kinda bad

So you wanna look for both mirage gods, extra casts from chaos ideally and your poms

[lethal dock]

bro wrote paragraph

[twilit lodge]

There’s many paragraphs to be written on beowulf

It has the most bugs of any aspect, and is probably the most-studied aspect due to its position as top speedrun material

[lethal dock]

speedrun is cool and all but heat is more interesting imo

anways gonna start a run whats a fun build

[twilit lodge]

Shackle hestia

Shackle nemesis

Dio fists

[lethal dock]

shackle is cool but i kinda wanna spam hangover and stuff

[twilit lodge]

Fists are good with hangover attack

Just don’t use any other source of hangover tho

[lethal dock]

chiron special with hangover

[twilit lodge]

This works well with aphro attack and duo

[lethal dock]

i know

[twilit lodge]

Cuz I just told you

[lethal dock]

bruh

aphro duo with +3 hangover yea

[mint coral]

Super soaker

[twilit lodge]

People really don’t like Chiron here though

[lethal dock]

super soaker?

[lethal dock]

i mean probably not the best aspect but its fun

[mint coral]

Lucifer with pos attack, find sea storm

[twilit lodge]

Luci rail with pos strike and Zeus duo

It’s meme

But it does shred

And is funny

[lethal dock]

aight imma try that

nooooo

bro 100 gems for diamond but im outta gems

this sucls

bro eris+ hazard bomb 💀

[hoary stratus]

speaking of gems anyone know any good ways to grind gems, i have one kinda but i was wondering if theres other ways (what im doing is getting the boon the increases the percentage of darkness, gold and gems you get, forgot what its called and then a chaos boon that does the same and using whatever weapon in my rotation for more darkness)

[lethal dock]

definetely get vanquishers keep

4 diamonds but it will add up

and yeah probably poseidon and chaos is your best shot but i dont have so much knowledge on this topic

[hoary stratus]

thats the upgrade that gives gems for beating bosses right?

[lethal dock]

yea

[hoary stratus]

oh yeah i already got that

im trying to 1000% hades 1 before 2 is fully finished, ive gotten a bunch done just working on getting all the cosmetic upgrades to the house rn

[twilit lodge]

I love it when only have one core open

And I get offered.. a replacement

[open idol]

how do i unlock the last aspects on a weapon?

[lethal dock]

generally you hae to invest 5 titan blood then dialouge with someone

it changes per weapon who u talk to but if u play with the said weapon you wanna unlock aspect on just play a run

[hoary stratus]

certain weapons you need to talk to certain people, i remember you talk to the bull guy for one of them (forgot his name)

[lethal dock]

asterious

asterius*

[hoary stratus]

yeah thats his name

asterios in hades 2 confirmed??????

i would like to see him again, cool character

[open idol]

how do i talk to the minotaur?

[lethal dock]

elysium boss fight

[twilit lodge]

Fight him as miniboss in Elysium

[hoary stratus]

when you go to battle him (alone in the mini bosses)

[lethal dock]

not with asterious tho

[open idol]

oh just fight him then

ok

[twilit lodge]

For fist aspect, you fight him with fists equipped and eventually he gives a dialogue about you using bare hands

[hoary stratus]

he unlocks the fists final aspect if i remember properly

[mint coral]

All pinned in #h1-story-discussion for who you need to talk to

[twilit lodge]

After that, once you have 5 blood invested into fists (and have already revealed guan yu aspect) he can give dialogue for how to reveal fist aspect

Fist equipped is only required to get the bare hand dialogue

[hoary stratus]

the fist final aspect is probably my favorite fist aspect ngl

[mint coral]

Is certainly a fun aspect

[lethal dock]

when i was noob i thought pom porridge was the good choice then i learned ambroisa delight was better then i found out refreshing nectar is the bst

[mint coral]

Sometimes

[twilit lodge]

They all have uses

[hoary stratus]

i was the same lol

[mint coral]

Delight and poms shine more at high heat tbf

[twilit lodge]

Nectar being “best” is speedrun pilled

But also good advice in general because it will almost always be helpful

[hoary stratus]

all have uses but some have more uses than another

[lethal dock]

i mean i dont hae much knowledge but having 3 boons of 9 choice upgraded seems better then random level ups rank ups

[twilit lodge]

High heat that becomes 3 boons of 3 offered

And rng hates you

[mint coral]

At high heats where ap2/RI are in play is sometimes hard to get good boons from nectar yeah

Like ideally you use nectar on hermes but good luck getting dashes or rd with ap2

[lethal dock]

well i guess not ap2 then

[twilit lodge]

Ap2 is such a troll

[lethal dock]

yea

[mint coral]

And sometimes your weapon only needs one or two boons so just take rarity/poms

I like rarity for heroics so I can protect my boon from random swaps

[lethal dock]

"bro dis is final chamber of styx i dont want rare crop"

[twilit lodge]

Styxshop crop

Is epic

Right before dad

Challenge mode

[lethal dock]

ya

[mint coral]

Just have it useless boons

[lethal dock]

styx exclusive acces

typhoon fury but only knockback is poseidons aid

[twilit lodge]

You would think EA would be higher tier than it is

But just getting the boons to be purple is the preferred strat

[mint coral]

Ea before Hermes is always the dream

[lethal dock]

uhm whats ea 💀

i dont know shortcuts

[mint coral]

Exclusive access

All boons epic

[lethal dock]

o yea

ea is good but when i get like ea its alyways styx shop r smth

[mint coral]

I only gamble for it on like, achilles

[twilit lodge]

Electronic arts

[lethal dock]

erebus gate or chaos gate

[mint coral]

Or beo if I'm being funny and get dio in tart

[twilit lodge]

Chaos always

[lethal dock]

i have 2 in same room

[twilit lodge]

Erebus is trash

[mint coral]

Erebus can be funny

[twilit lodge]

Unless it’s early tart

[mint coral]

What's the reward?

[lethal dock]

artemis

chaos then

bruh just got death defiance chaos

[mint coral]

Lmfao

Wait where in the run are you

[lethal dock]

ah start

fighting the girls

[mint coral]

Oh you got 2 gates in tart

[lethal dock]

ya

i got aspect of eris with hazard bomb lol wjdhbgtfadkmjhygwtfa

[mint coral]

At least it always makes the door offers gold laurels

[mint coral]

Have fun iframing your explosion

[lethal dock]

ya

wait does it show in my status who im fighting with

[twilit lodge]

Always a good sign for your build when than wins

[lethal dock]

wait guyz

i got god leve knowledge

technically if you could get refreshing nectar and yard of adrian thingy

isnt it set epic minimum

[mint coral]

No

It just automatically passes the check for rare

And like +25% for epic?

[lethal dock]

aw

sad

[mint coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1228902200923918440/1281002281986293832/Screenshot_20240904-172517.png?ex=66da21d7&is=66d8d057&hm=0b8f03f80b9d45363c6119ac7d980ebb7e22578de839f1a05334ab8b170bd112&

Got it right

[fervent radish]

'Useless Access'

[mint coral]

Is the only boon that even has a custom message I love it

[lethal dock]

aphrodite or zeus

trial of the gods and cool music

[twilit lodge]

Trials are traps

Usually

[lethal dock]

well maybe but its 2 gods tho

[twilit lodge]

There’s some value to them but they can’t give duos

[lethal dock]

i rarely get 1 duo per run its okay

[twilit lodge]

Duos are some of the best stuff available

[lethal dock]

its good stuff

[latent moon]

the main issus with trials isn't the fact that you can't get a duo but it's more of the fact that more boons doesn't make a build better lmao

[twilit lodge]

Especially Stubborn Roots

[latent moon]

not always at least

[twilit lodge]

Stubborn Roots is my favorite 450 gold

[lethal dock]

that thing is op

[twilit lodge]

Or is it 350

Either way

[lethal dock]

i think 450

[latent moon]

majority of boons aren't useful and trials give you 2 useless boons lmao

[twilit lodge]

Parting shot is probably my second favorite 450 gold

[lethal dock]

aphrodite special with hazard bomb its like 1k damage wtf

[latent moon]

you generally take a trial bc it has 1 god you want/need for your build
if you're doing ME and it's athena vs ares early in the run then you nearly always take it for impending/athena core

[latent moon]

hazard bomb is just fat damage lmao

[twilit lodge]

Yet if you stand in it it’s only 3

Deep state is hiding something

What don’t they want us to know

[mint coral]

If you have arty special you can crit yourself for more dmg

[narrow loom]

😭

[latent moon]

you take like 1% of the damage yourself

[narrow loom]

hazard bomb crits probably go crazy

[twilit lodge]

I thought it was flat 3

Guess I’m wrong

[lethal dock]

its 8

bro 1k damage to 8 wtf

[narrow loom]

hazard bomb eris

[lethal dock]

i have hazard bomb eris 💀

[latent moon]

enemy hp vs your hp is a pretty staggering difference lmao

[twilit lodge]

Run aphro special hazard bomb with heart rend, weak enemies take more dmg, and pressure points

[latent moon]

like dad has 17.5k hp

[twilit lodge]

That would be fat hazard self dmg

[latent moon]

that cant be right

idk dad has a lot of hp tho lmao

couple thousand

[narrow loom]

hazard bomb + targeting system + arty

[mint coral]

17k per phase iirc?

[latent moon]

yeah something like that

[mint coral]

Idk super dad

[twilit lodge]

I wish I knew how targeting system works

Like

[lethal dock]

thats 17 special per phase

[twilit lodge]

Does it just make your special do more

[mint coral]

He restores to like 80%? In p3

[latent moon]

the issue is landing it lmao

[twilit lodge]

Or does anything inside your special target take more up til and including when it lands

[lethal dock]

nah

[latent moon]

that sounds about right

[mint coral]

Is a global debuff yeah

[twilit lodge]

That’s always kinda been what I thought but I never knew for sure

[mint coral]

Your special also benefits from it ofc

And it buffs non zag dmg sources too

[lethal dock]

1685 for charon styx

[twilit lodge]

I love buffing than damage

[lethal dock]

wtf

[twilit lodge]

10999 than pools

[mint coral]

Is funnier with backstabs buffs

[twilit lodge]

Mod that remakes hades so you follow than around supporting him as he reaps mortals

[narrow loom]

targeting system

I remember I got it one time

I think it lingers

doesn't it?

[latent moon]

a bit

i think

[narrow loom]

even if they aren't in the circle if they were in it

it lingers for a little I think

if that's the case it's actually quite good

[lethal dock]

will not anyone talk about how tiny vermin has more damage then some bosses wtf

[narrow loom]

delta chamber + targeting system eris

[open idol]

can i talk to the shade thats my fan?

[twilit lodge]

Rail hammers are shockingly almost all good

It’s sickening

[stiff obsidian]

[latent moon]

targetting is def one of the better ones but there's also just a lot of other good things as well lmao

[twilit lodge]

You can talk at him after the boss fight every time by walking up to him

[latent moon]

targeting isn't considered one of the best bc there's just better ones lmao

[open idol]

oh ok

[lethal dock]

whos the shade thats ur fan

[twilit lodge]

Not by pressing any button or anything

You just automatically say a line when you walk up to the red shade with a zag banner

[mint coral]

Orange shade at the left of the heroes arena

[twilit lodge]

After the fight

[lethal dock]

i didnt know that really bruh

[twilit lodge]

If you don’t talk to him after every fight you’re a bad person

[mint coral]

Also 🤓 but the first time you beat heroes you can't talk to the shade

[twilit lodge]

On par with people who don’t pet Cerberus

[twilit lodge]

This is true sadly

[mint coral]

And its funny they are there even on run 1

[twilit lodge]

Yep I noticed that this new save

I wanted so badly to say hi

[mint coral]

Saw you once and eternal fan

[lethal dock]

guys its the final chamber in styx

do iget sea storm or oceans bounty

im serious

im bored

[mint coral]

Bounty is the +gems or the random stuff

Also what's your knockback here

[lethal dock]

i got oceans bounty

bro i was bored

[narrow loom]

if you have a good way to knock b

😭😭

[lethal dock]

djwhygta

[narrow loom]

sea storm is incredibly good if you have a good source of knockback

[mint coral]

What was your pos boon anyways

[lethal dock]

idk

[mint coral]

Cast/call?

[lethal dock]

dash thingy

[narrow loom]

dawg...

[mint coral]

Oh lmfao

Yeah that was a sea storm take

[narrow loom]

bro neutered his build

[lethal dock]

nah bro oceans bounty be giving me +25 gems after hades

[narrow loom]

the amount of times i've begged the hades gods for sea storm

[lethal dock]

💀

i deal like 1.6k with extra damage stuff bro i dont need sea stormy stuff

also i am bored

anyways its like 1am imma sleep gnight yall

[open idol]

do we know anything about skelly?

like who he was and who employed him and stuff?

[mint coral]

you can find who hired him yeah

there's theories about who he is

and (hades 2 spoilers) ||he's having fun saying he's schelemeus atm||

[open idol]

who did?

[mint coral]

Charon

[latent moon]

he mentions it at some point

there's like a whole arc of figuring out who he is

[mint coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxjlpUZ_DDw hilarious conversation between darren korb and darren korb

[open idol]

is there a ||schelemeus|| in greek mythology?

i dont remember one

[latent moon]

no clue lmao

might be able to find more info on google

wouldn't be surprised if sgg found some niche myth and pulled it from that

[mint coral]

nothing from greek apparently

just a fake name from skelly

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TevaAKEW6ng

dude just wants to be a bit silly

tho iirc Asterius says he might recognize the name?

[stiff obsidian]

wowwww

i should enable music again

[twilit lodge]

Ugh I’ve been chasing blown kiss for prophecy for so long now

And it shows up at the same time as low tolerance which I’m also chasing

[latent moon]

blown kiss is harder to get lmao

[twilit lodge]

Yeah I took it for that reason

There’s a tunnel with dio left and a styxshop dio

Plus in the future it’s a lot less restrictive to get

[latent moon]

literally free

just hit the 12%

[twilit lodge]

I have my one entire reroll still available too!

[latent moon]

easy

[twilit lodge]

Rip the dream

And I couldn’t beat dad because my build was prophecy chasing trash

[fervent radish]

Just do hestia attack start

Rest of your build can be whatever garbage you want

[twilit lodge]

I like to follow thirst

Rather than stick to any one weapon

Hestia is definitely good for chasing though

[fervent radish]

Fair, I’m kinda the opposite ngl

[twilit lodge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1049898804234698772/1281028451989590056/IMG_4297.jpg?ex=66da3a37&is=66d8e8b7&hm=d12743345dafeb268b3385a5a079886dbc0274b7030f27727a88fec59bb00fd7&

Sadly 3 casts of 333dmg was not enough damage

Exit wounds kept triggering while he was invisible, too

[twin thistle]

Btw its better to just spam lesser call with dio aid instead of saving it

[mint coral]

Were you leveling duster

[twilit lodge]

Just chasing several prophecies at once

Duster was for the use every trinket one

[analog star]

don't you just need to equip them? not use them

[twilit lodge]

I assume it only counts if you leave the house or mid-region room with them equipped

Otherwise you could just sit in skellys room and equip them all

(Which, maybe you can, I guess I never tested that)

[north sandal]

should i get aspect of hera or pour more titans blood into aspect of poseidon

[latent moon]

Hera is a good aspect

Generally considered one of the better aspects

[north sandal]

so ive heard

i was just wondering which one sounds better

ive only used the bow once compared to literally anything else so i was thinking poseidon

but then again maybe i just didnt like the default bow and maybe getting hera would get me to use the bow more

[twilit lodge]

Hera is definitely an enjoyable bow experience

But Poseidon is a very fun castspect too

Surviving a boss fight with 1hp when you have strong drink is such a vibe

[livid heart]

Why is “In the Blood” not on Spotify anymore 😭😭😭 it was one of my favourite songs

[lethal dock]

i dunno they removed some songs

whats ur favorite dash yall i like divine dash

[twin thistle]

Tdash

[lethal dock]

tidal?

[twin thistle]

Ye

[stone python]

merciful end is gonna make me commit a crime

[kindred junco]

i did em4 for the first time

i didnt know that REDACTED was built like THAT

[open idol]

what is em4?

[stiff obsidian]

extreme measures 4

[lethal dock]

ii like how m everybody gets cool stuff and lernie just gets anew arena to fight with full potential

[stiff obsidian]

can also detach neck

[lethal dock]

its only dangerous cuz of arena

[kindred junco]

fr i was expecting like an extra phase wih 9 heads 💀

[mint coral]

9 heads on the normal arena would be kinda chill ngl

9 heads + em2 arena on the other hand

[lethal dock]

getting 2 characters of your build in gods trial is the dream

[stiff obsidian]

me when im playing eris and in tart with zeus attack and ddash and a c12 zeus athena trial gives me jolt and extra dd

[lethal dock]

okay do i get draining cutter or long knuckle

[mint coral]

Long

[lethal dock]

too late

but it is aspect of demeter with like kinetic charge and aphrodite %200

[fervent radish]

draining cutter isn't bad but it's only useful with LC4 RI4 kinda situation

gilga td0 draining cutter new meta

[lethal dock]

its useful if you suck at the game like me

a pretty cool thing in hades is like theres almost no stuff like
"noo its the final boss it cant instantly die at %10 just cuz of a boon"

[fervent radish]

tbf em4 has healing phases

"yeah say goodbye to all that dps you worked for"

[lethal dock]

thats supposed to be really hard anyway

[fervent radish]

It's...fine

very fun fight though

[lethal dock]

yea

arguing that most of the other heats pretty much affect the whole game and luck can screw u over if u can learn to beat em4 its quite a fair fight

[fervent radish]

em4 is not a fair fight lol

[lethal dock]

yeah it sucks

but the point stands

[fervent radish]

perhaps

i don't really understand it though

[lethal dock]

a really "hol up" thing is u can charm ur father wtf

[twilit lodge]

You can charm enemies

Your father is an enemy

[lethal dock]

my point

[twilit lodge]

Okay

[lethal dock]

her boons ar neat tho

[fervent radish]

Worst in the game ngl

Ravenous will and call are good, but that’s about it

Aphro has some of the best boons in the game 😔

[lethal dock]

it has some cool duo stuff to make up for it

[twin thistle]

Aphro multipliers and weak carry hard

[fervent radish]

most demeter duos suck though

[twin thistle]

Also a lot of dem non duos suck

[fervent radish]

ice wine is good, crystal clarity is fine

yeah i mentioned that

[lethal dock]

extreme damage multiplier also weak is pretty useful

[fervent radish]

she has the highest damage multipliers in the game

and her cast is like second highest damage i think

[lethal dock]

very good duo boons for almost all builds and since weak lasts quite long with the extra timer thingy its very useful with priviledged status too

[fervent radish]

pstatus also is not great 😔

but if you're going to have two status effects, might as well

[sleek cliff]

weak is basically just better bronze skin tbh

and u can also get sweet surrender

[lethal dock]

i think aphrodite is straight up good with every build ever like
for some weapons or aspects there are better stuff like zeus special at zeus aspect but aphrodite is almost never bad for such weapons too

[stiff obsidian]

tree jumpscare

[fervent radish]

weak and hypersprint basically half the amount of damage you take

[lethal dock]

[twin thistle]

Her boons have high multipliers and have better pom gains than other and weak is a very strong debuff, 30% damage reduction is like having 100 extra max health

[lethal dock]

aphrodite and zeus duo lead to some of the funniest gameplay lol

[twin thistle]

Yeah but most dashes suck compared to tdash and ddash anyways

[lethal dock]

except some very rare uses of artemis dash

[fervent radish]

Pash dash sucks true

Well

I think I’d rather have it over drunken dash

There are negative use cases for drunken dash

It actively ruins hangover builds

[lethal dock]

cuz it overwrites

[twin thistle]

If you have dio in your pool you usually want either him on call or attack/special, and drunk dash on top of one of those can hurt the build

[lethal dock]

bro just got aspect of zeus with empowering flight this should be illegal

[mint coral]

It only works when you catch the shield again

[lethal dock]

still

[lethal dock]

hades in r/place in 2025???

[hazy path]

If a Boon shows up at the door, does it lock you in for the rest of the run with that specific god?

I heard you only get 4 gods each run and they lock you out the rest

[lethal dock]

thats not true

but the first gods in tartarus you get will probably come up lot more often

[hazy path]

Oh so just don’t take the doors?

[lethal dock]

get them if you want to have a specific boon of said god in door

[hazy path]

Wait which part isn’t true? The door part or the one where you’re locked out of gods?

[lethal dock]

this

you arent locked out of gods

[hazy path]

oooh

Thanks. I thought you only get 4.

[fervent radish]

After 4 gods, you have to force any other gods you want to get. No other gods will show up naturally

[hazy path]

Oh is that why the keepsakes are there to force them? I think I worded it wrong. I didn’t mean lock. More like you won’t have the opportunity to get more

@fervent radish so say for example you have 2 gods already, then they give you 2 doors and one of them as the different one. Even if you go to a location that doesn’t have the god, Will that count as 3?

[fervent radish]

Getting offered a good doesn't place them in your pool, taking a boon will, and selling a boon doesn't remove them from your pool

[hazy path]

Ahh okay! Thanks 🙏🏾

[twilit lodge]

How could you? That Hydra had a family…

Love chasing a legendary and the god in question shows up twice ever

Only took 30 chambers to get flood shot, surely now I will get the duo

[rustic vale]

Once you pick up boons from 4 different olympians (Hermes and Chaos don’t count), the game stops naturally showing you more

you can force more in via keepsakes

and purging a gods boons doesn’t remove them from your “god pool”

[stone python]

whats a fun like weapon i should use am bored af rn

[lethal dock]

aspect of rama

i find arthur pretty fun in my opinion too but some people dont like it cuz its slow

[old bluff]

Beo :)

[twilit lodge]

Unleveled zagrail

V fun

[lethal dock]

im not gonna lie shields is not as fun as some other weapons

[stone python]

also the gun is very funny but not very fun

[twilit lodge]

Yeah I was maybe trolling

Zagrail isn’t fun even with blood invested

[stone python]

he bassicaly is just mag dumping enemys

[lethal dock]

try raging rush

dashing around the place is kinda crazy lol

[twilit lodge]

Achilles is very fun and flexible

And the aspect isn’t bad either!

[stone python]

archilles can just make you fly

[twilit lodge]

🥁

[stone python]

Aka dash

very far

since thats its thing

[lethal dock]

aspect of zag blade is quite exciting in my opinion

[stone python]

also why do people wanna romance with every god damn person in this game

[lethal dock]

theres sus stuff in it

[stone python]

we dont talk about the funny content here jesse

your gonna get us canceled

[lethal dock]

well there literally is sus stuf in the game bro

[stone python]

fair

istfg somebody is gonna say i wanna romance cerberas

[lethal dock]

when you like a game you accept the stuff you dont like and that sets the playerbase

[stone python]

i am fine with it

since its funny

but like

why

[lethal dock]

i dunno tbh

[twilit lodge]

I wanna romance Than

[stone python]

well your in luck

than is chill

[twilit lodge]

[stone python]

charon is chiller though

[lethal dock]

||u can do that bro wtf||

[stone python]

just dont rob him

[lethal dock]

click for huge spoiler

[stone python]

no way

[twilit lodge]

[stone python]

thats too big of a spoiler bro

[lethal dock]

warned u

[stone python]

this game has a masochist

gays

what doesnt this game have

this should be a dating game

[fervent radish]

everyone else recommends a variety of aspects and we just shill our onetricks of choice

[stone python]

in hades 3 we need kratos in the game

[lethal dock]

agree bro

zag would romance him too

[stone python]

with this power i summon

stickybot

[stone python]

zag would romance a cactus

charon is so chill though

he just gives you items for money

and he listens to you

[lethal dock]

after u robs him he like nah bro that was a cool fight take my money and card

bro the pew pew gun has got to be the easiest weapon ever wth

[hazy path]

build making is so weird because it feels like I’m nerfing myself all the way to Elysium because the doors never give out boons

Good thing I was told about fated persuasion because knowing me I would’ve gotten annoyed and did fated authority

[azure spruce]

yeay, just got a new personal record on beowulf. 36 heat

[twilit lodge]

Do you have foresight mirror talent?

[hazy path]

yeah. it’s maxed

someone told me not to waste it all and just to it once

[twilit lodge]

Not to waste what

[hazy path]

The dice

[lethal dock]

ah yes the dice

uhm what is the dice

[hazy path]

Fated persuasion logo thing (I got the term from a YouTuber sorry)

[twilit lodge]

Rerolls

[azure spruce]

boiling blood + stygian is +50% D and boiling blood + infernal soul is +150%D right?

[old bluff]

no

[azure spruce]

how does it work?

[old bluff]

It's always 50%

[azure spruce]

so when an enemy has 3 cast in them its also +50%?

damn

[old bluff]

If an enemy has one or more bloodstones lodged, they take 50% more damage from the attack and special

[azure spruce]

ah

i see

[twilit lodge]

Imagine if boiling blood did stack like that

+stones would be even more broken

[mint coral]

Arty stocks go up

[lavish sorrel]

:hoolyloaded:

[twilit lodge]

Is trippy Pom bug only for flare?

[old bluff]

Only on Beo iirc

I don't think Hera gets it

[twilit lodge]

Rip

[latent moon]

yeah beo only

hera gets the mirage flare bug with trippy tho

[twilit lodge]

Sack boon offering me jolted, smair, epic double strike

My only Zeus boon is lv3 common call

I think I take smair

[old bluff]

What aspect

[twilit lodge]

Lv1 eris

With a gross prophecy chase build

[old bluff]

I think Dstrike is slightly better than Smair, but Smair is harder to get for prophecy

[twilit lodge]

Already have all the options for props

[latent moon]

eris but no zeus atk?

[twilit lodge]

Gonna go smair because then I get more iframes and this build isn’t really strong

[twilit lodge]

I’m chasing dio legend

[latent moon]

oh lmao

yeah smair

[twilit lodge]

So I have lv6 epic dio strike

[latent moon]

iframes nice

[twilit lodge]

[latent moon]

solid tho

not a bad build tbf

[twilit lodge]

It is when you see the ares special with rocket bomb

[latent moon]

it's just like weaker than the standard build lmao

oh

well

[twilit lodge]

Loool

[latent moon]

technically like 110% boost from the doom lmao

[twilit lodge]

And pash dash

[latent moon]

and 15% global boost!

[twilit lodge]

It’s a mess

[latent moon]

pash dash is just worse tdash

it's like

not bad lmao

[twilit lodge]

I got two duos crossed off the list at least

[old bluff]

Pdash is fine ngl

[latent moon]

this is like peak ap2 build lmfao

ap2 build except you actually got boons

[old bluff]

Prop kinda ap2

[latent moon]

true

[twilit lodge]

Rare double strike from the shop before I go

[old bluff]

nice

[twilit lodge]

This is somehow my fastest run so far

[old bluff]

Dstrike is stupid busted

[twilit lodge]

I actually took the free rooms which I don’t normally

Cuz prop

[old bluff]

Dio attack is pretty nice, I got a sub 7 with it once

[latent moon]

dio atk eris is the 2nd best atk on eris lmao

[twilit lodge]

200dmg every second kinda alright

[fervent radish]

That’s not that much ngl

But with eris you probably have Zeus call and tidal dash or something

[twilit lodge]

I have 5 duos left for the prophecy

And 3 of them need (different) casts

🫠

[old bluff]

🗿

[twilit lodge]

First two boons are purple dio atk and trippy

Surely I can get black out this run

[old bluff]

Surely

[stiff obsidian]

https://tenor.com/view/the-peak-the-boys-fact-checked-the-deep-moglight-gif-2297865515687223826

[twilit lodge]

Shouldn’t all my boons be the same rarity if I took rare crop?

Oh it only picks some, I forgor

[mint coral]

Lmao

[twilit lodge]

Point and laugh

[old bluff]

👆 😂

[twilit lodge]

Still no black out

Sad day

[mint coral]

Did you swap to legacy

[twilit lodge]

Nah

I should

But effort

[mint coral]

Is just 1 key at your nearest mirror

[twilit lodge]

Hehe

Got ares legendary

Which I’ve already had before

So many insane boon choices made to maximize my chance of getting those legendaries

Time to respec the mirror

At least vicious cycle blade dash is able to carry an otherwise ruined build

[stiff obsidian]

why

[twilit lodge]

Because I’m chasing duos and legendaries and didn’t have legacy

[twilit lodge]

Y’all ever start fishing while standing in magma

🫠

[old bluff]

Yes

[mint coral]

that's how I lost my first 40 attempt

[old bluff]

Did it in an Rta run once

[twilit lodge]

Isn’t it fun

Also fun is having to miss perfect catches on purpose for the codex

[viscid latch]

This can actually happen! 😄 Not to me yet.

There was one time though the reward appeared in the lava, and I had to sacrifice some hearts to get it.

[twilit lodge]

Dashing is your friend

I forgot how cracked trippy gets with Stygian soul + bonus stones

[fierce junco]

stupid trout 😔

[lethal dock]

reward is always in lava when i have arthur cuz why would i wanna step on ground bro

[north sandal]

aspect of hera is actually fun

[lethal dock]

yeah it iz

fullmetal alchemist too btw

[north sandal]

honestly with the right cast you do so much damage its actually fun

[lethal dock]

"so much damage" is not that fun in my opinion

i like alt bow aspect most

[mint coral]

Hera and rama my beloveds

[narrow loom]

hera no

tbh I don't like cast loading builds

[lethal dock]

casting builds are boring

theyre maybe op but anyway

[narrow loom]

they are OP but I just don't like cast

[lethal dock]

ramas fun tho

[old bluff]

Beo fun tho 😌

[lethal dock]

no

[old bluff]

Yes :)

[lethal dock]

op doesnt mean fun bro wth nah

[latent moon]

fun is subjective

he said it's fun so it's fun for him lmao

[lethal dock]

fun is subjective but its from your stand of view, someone may enjoy farming more than computer games but for society computer games is more "fun"

[old bluff]

The reason I think Beo is the most fun weapon in the game for me is because it has (arguably) the highest mechanical skill ceiling in the game

[lethal dock]

oh well i guess thats fair but that needs like quite high skill

[latent moon]

play rama lmao

or spin yu

[old bluff]

Play Beo like Bigp and you’ll see what I mean

[latent moon]

yeah bigp kinda insane

[lethal dock]

well for me playing beo is basically an unupgraded shield cuz i cant make use of the ability and am not used to slow attack speed

[latent moon]

but ocaml rama tho

[old bluff]

I failed to consider this

[latent moon]

dash striking into the rush helps a lot

[lethal dock]

does it tho

[latent moon]

yeah

[old bluff]

Yes

[lethal dock]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[latent moon]

you put down the shield a lot faster so your dragon rush comes out faster

[old bluff]

It is why the weapon is so good

[mint coral]

Your standing attack takes 5 business days