nice! i didn’t know that. what are some good gods to aid with what i’m trying to loom for? i know i’m kinda new and it’s not the best, but i’m loving the artemis-zeus combo for cast and heart seeking bow lol
#h1-discussion
tepid crystal
north sandal
it was mostly a chill build
plus i got something that extended my spear range
so i basically just jabbed at people from afar lol
oh and festive fog on cast
it was fun now i gotta get used to having none of that
ebon ermine
if you look up "stage 3 dad fight" on youtube the unseen ones pops up lol
weary lotus
This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.
hazy path
Is Aspect of Chaos the strongest shield or is it Zeus?
stiff obsidian
aspect of chaos is the weakest shield
tepid light
Is Aspect of Chaos the strongest shield or is it Zeus?
beowulf
small portal
it was my first time getting to hades and then I lost to his phase 2 😭
but now I have aspects
so... what weapon shd I use
I used ares special with zagreus aegis to get there
but now I am bored with that combo/build
any reccomendations?
round gorge
it was my first time getting to hades and then I lost to his phase 2 😭
but now ...
Zeus aegis can be really fun
round gorge
Get zeus special
small portal
Get zeus special
thats it?
round gorge
And focus on upgrading your flying shield
As you can still block while you have your special flying, you can be safe and deal consistent damage
small portal
hm..
round gorge
There is also the option to get athena special and deflect everything
If you don’t want to use shield, there is also hera bow with aphro cast
weary lotus
This is a very nice boon
Got to Temple of Styx without using a death defiance, but on 20% health, so it topped me up
fervent radish
Is Aspect of Chaos the strongest shield or is it Zeus?
Zeus is strong at outputting safe consistent damage
Not great burst unfortunately
rustic vale
Is Aspect of Chaos the strongest shield or is it Zeus?
Chaos is easily the 4th best shield aspect
hazy path
Sorry for late replies thanks guys
hazy path
beowulf
Ooh that’s the best one? I never hear it much compared to the 2. What makes it the best
hazy path
Zeus is strong at outputting safe consistent damage
Ah
mint coral
Ooh that’s the best one? I never hear it much compared to the 2. What makes it t...
Nuke
hazy path
Thanks
I’ll try Zeus. I haven’t touched the shield in a while. I wanted to finish the fate prophecy for the other weapons + grinding all the unpopular keepsakes to max rank
rustic vale
Ooh that’s the best one? I never hear it much compared to the 2. What makes it t...
Where are you hearing about shield 
Reddit happens to be the premier place for Hades misinformation or just a lack of education about the game (it’s a cesspool in the stone age)
old bluff
It's the shields hidden aspect, that's why
hazy path
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1127395567136423936/s...
Oh my goodness 💀
woeful rampart
Theseus going into panic mode to deny that fight counted
hazy path
Where are you hearing about shield <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
I used google which wasn’t really a good source. I’m glad I went to the discord. The help was really valuable. I basically searched up weapon tierlists and they had aspect of chaos at S tier
stiff obsidian
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1127395567136423936/s...
Did u see the Dio beo
stiff obsidian
fervent radish
Silly game tbh
stiff obsidian
Did the Meg even hit?
hazy path
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUOIs5oI-mI&feature=youtu.be
This is so satisfying to watch
stiff obsidian
I can't tell
old bluff
It did on Thesues but I can't tell if it did on Bull
old bluff
There health bars never even load to full lmao
fervent radish
Did the Meg even hit?
i think the meg hits theseus but asterius gets phased before it can
animation still happens though,
no damage number
latent moon
i dont think it hit on bull lmao
i think she crit so the meg hit the bubble
got blown up too fast so it didn't hit lmfao
stiff obsidian
meg dpsloss?
hollow swan
Fav Daedalus hammer upgrades go
stiff obsidian
flurry jab delta chamber cshot
old bluff
Dedge, Flurry Jab, Charged Shot (HM to Explosive return), Flurry shot/Triple shot, Breaching cross, and Rocket Bomb and Delta chamber
stiff obsidian
you cant have that many favorites
old bluff
Favorite for each wepaon
hollow granite
Life leech sword. I love being able to go berserk
fervent radish
Fav Daedalus hammer upgrades go
explosive return
gentle venture
Hey, does anybody know why the soundtrack has been delisted on itunes and spotify?
It says its unavailable in this region, but i’ve had it in my library since i got the game like 3 years ago
mint coral
Hey, does anybody know why the soundtrack has been delisted on itunes and spotif...
#supergiant-games message (not an explanation)
north sandal
YOOOO IM GETTING BETTER
i ust got past theseus and asterius without burning a single death defiance
defiance
so assuming i play well after i get off work (i go in like 1 hour so i called the run quits for a bit) i should have two death defiances on hades
hollow granite
Whenever I equip a god's keepsake, it has a 1 for how many charges it has. What does that 1 represent?:
O1. How many times it'll force the God's boons to appear?
O2. How many times it'll force the God's boons to be of better rarity?
jagged hamlet
The former
hollow granite
But I've noticed that once i select a god's keepsake, their boons continually appear so long as I have the keepsake, equipped.
old bluff
The charge is taken away when you pick the god whose keepsake you have on
You can avoid them or even take another god, the keepsake will still force the god
jagged hamlet
But I've noticed that once i select a god's keepsake, their boons continually ap...
That's because you have a "Olympian pool" which normally accrues up to four Olympians to continue showing up once you've taken their boons
hollow granite
That's because you have a "Olympian pool" which normally accrues up to four Olym...
If i skip their boon, will it still show up? Or is the taking of the boon, what adds it to my pool?
mint coral
If i skip their boon, will it still show up? Or is the taking of the boon, what ...
Taking a god adds them to your pool
The god keepsake forces the next boon to be that god until taken, bypassing pool limits
hollow granite
The god keepsake forces the next boon to be that god until taken, bypassing pool...
Thank you
mint coral
Also taking your keepsake god from the shop doesn't remove the charge
So you still get a forced boon
hollow granite
Oh very nice information. I will use it thus
I can't get Zeus or Minotaur to mention the Rail or the Fists... anything I might be missing, such as a required heat level, or Keepsake use?
hollow granite
Yes. I have all the hidden aspects unlocked and everything fully leveled to the requirement. Just waiting on these two.
hollow granite
No not yet
mint coral
The dialogue from talking to him with fists equipped
hollow granite
The dialogue from talking to him with fists equipped
I see. Is there a similar requirement for the Rail + Zeus?
mint coral
The dialogue from talking to him with fists equipped
But yeah for fists you first get this then it doesn't matter which weapon to get the actual waking ohrase
hollow granite
Noted. I'll equip them now. Thank you
rustic vale
Pretty sure it doesn't but might as well try
Afaik every weapon has the “use weapon to get weapon related dialogue” -> “use any weapon to get the aspect after that”
mint coral
Nyx and achilles don't have respective dialogues 🤓
rustic vale
Nyx and achilles don't have respective dialogues 🤓
Imagine if they gated it behind seeing Achilles with Patty or Nyx with Chaos
mint coral
rustic vale
<:ron:459075377906712586>
I think we need a new speedrun category
FF -> all hidden aspects
fervent radish
Ff to all aspects
hollow swan
explosive return
im assuming thats for casts?
fervent radish
Shield special
hollow swan
oh
rustic vale
Ff to all aspects
Might as well be the same thing
unreal mason
oh
For reference Dragonappendix plays Zeus shield at extremely high heat which the best hammer for is explosive return. Really fun hammer that makes the aspect a lot of fun to learn.
mint coral
Why many words when few do trick
old bluff
Me no like words
twin thistle
Why type 2x letter when can type half
rustic vale
do yall even care abt the mythos and the story
Yeah, but why use lot word when little word do trick
mint coral
New pfp :0
rustic vale
yeah I mean the group of people that shared the jfkfc one slowly dwindled till it was 2 of us left so we decided eh
might as well be over
I don’t know if you can tell what the new pfp is without prior knowledge. I’d hope but
Idk
latent moon
do yall even care abt the mythos and the story
i'd much rather not use way too many words to express the same exact thing esp since all the weapons have long ass names
my ass is not calling it stygian blade and coronacht or heart seeking bow or however you spell it
gonna abbreviate and shorten everything too lmao
jagged hamlet
Heart-Seeking Bow Coronacht, Aspect of Chiron
hollow swan
my ass is not calling it stygian blade and coronacht or heart seeking bow or how...
bruh
hollow swan
Yeah, but why use lot word when little word do trick
bc the story
hollow swan
my ass is not calling it stygian blade and coronacht or heart seeking bow or how...
Stigius: The Stygian Blade. Varatha: The Eternal Spear. Aegis: Shield of Chaos. Coronacht: The Heart-Seeking Bow. Malphon: The Twin Fists. and Exagryph: The Rail of Adamant
old bluff
Sword, Spear, Shield, Bow, Fists, and Rail is way faster
hollow swan
bruh
lazy ahhs
u js dont care abt the mythology behind hades
its genuinely incredible
old bluff
I feel like that may be an overly broad statement
hollow swan
it is
old bluff
I do care about the mythos, I've just spent so much time with the game that it is not the number 1 thing I care about anymore
old bluff
Almost 1k
jagged hamlet
I would like to be addressed as "Packrat, dark squirrel of vengeance" to account for my lore
hollow swan
bet
latent moon
u js dont care abt the mythology behind hades
if you want to spell it out every time be my guest, i just personally wont but that's not bc i dont care about the myth behind hades
it's bc that takes too much time to write lmao
i have like 530 or so hours in the game too lol
hollow swan
Oh
north sandal
<:TW_thumbs_up:1210436511456174141>
ive seen this used sarcastically so many times i cant tell if ur being genuine lol
im sure u are
fervent radish
but god its always fun
You’re gonna hate that a good number of us have the music and voice lines off
fervent radish
I don’t even think about the mythology any more
hollow swan
https://tenor.com/view/i-hate-you-anakin-star-wars-gif-10358450
SAME
fervent radish
Real
fervent radish
I enjoyed it for 100 or so hours
But now I play for the gameplay only
Specifically to clear 64 heat
hollow swan
Cringe moment
hollow swan
Specifically to clear 64 heat
That’s near impossible
hollow swan
Someone’s done it but only one person
fervent radish
I did 60
hollow swan
My highest heat ever was 9😭
fervent radish
Atleast 8 people have done it modded
hollow swan
Well that’s modded
fervent radish
Not a significant distinction from unmodded
fervent radish
Atleast in a heat context
hollow swan
I love the gold they have
fervent radish
It’s the standardized speedrunning modpack
hollow swan
But like where do I go to mod the game
fervent radish
old bluff
You can join the modding discord or speedcord pinned in the selfpromo channel here
old bluff
Someone’s done it but only one person
Not to be that guy here, but 2 people have cleared 64 heat unmodded
fervent radish
Cringe moment
How is it cringe?
old bluff
baj unmodded seeded
mysterra modded unseeded
angel modded unseeded
angel unmodded unseeded
bai unmodded unseeded
poshboy modded unseeded
other chinese player i forgot the name of modded unseeded
Vaxon modded unseeded
Playad modded unseeded
amb unmodded seeded
Timothy unseeded hypermodded guan yu
These are all the people who have done 64 heat
fervent radish
Would you read the same book 20 times just because the author worked hard on it?
old bluff
(Dragonappendix soon trust)
fervent radish
Trust
north sandal
Would you read the same book 20 times just because the author worked hard on it?
if it was good enough yeah
which hades is imo
latent moon
Someone’s done it but only one person
it's been done by 2 different people
unmodded
modded it's been done by a decent handful of people
fervent radish
if it was good enough yeah
Highly doubt it, but to each their own
latent moon
and also like there isn't any gameplay difference btwn unmodded and modded it's really just the fact that the player can actually play the game with modded
fervent radish
All I’m saying is that I’ve listened to the tracks hundreds, if not thousands of times over, so I think it’s reasonable for me to be tired of it
old bluff
All I’m saying is that I’ve listened to the tracks hundreds, if not thousands of...
idk man, Good Riddance and In the Blood still kinda slap
fervent radish
idk man, Good Riddance and In the Blood still kinda slap
I actually don’t hear those that much anymore lol
Bc I don’t go through the house
(I don’t win)
rustic vale
bc the story
If I were to type put “The aspect of Zagreus on Coronacht: The Heart Seeking Bow” as opposed to “Zag Bow” on a consistent basis I think I may age 20 years
rustic vale
u js dont care abt the mythology behind hades
What? That’s a wild statement to make about using shorthand. I love greek mythology, and the Hades game, but that doesn’t mean I have to type out the full name of the weapon to care about it. That’d be like me saying you don’t care about someone if you don’t use their full legal name as opposed to their first name in all contexts
latent moon
nicknames begone
fervent radish
nicknames begone
nicholas names
small portal
Do the keepsakes renew their effect every biome or do I just change it cause its useless (I am talking about the god keepsakes btw)
I am trying Merciful End btw
I have all the reqs
now I just need athena/ares
hollow swan
If I were to type put “The aspect of Zagreus on Coronacht: The Heart Seeking Bow...
Just say choronacht
fervent radish
Bow
hollow swan
Choronacht
fervent radish
It’s coronacht anyways
hollow swan
I love that weapon
fervent radish
I dislike the bow
rustic vale
Do the keepsakes renew their effect every biome or do I just change it cause its...
God keepsakes won’t renew their effect every biome
It will still buff rarity but it’s just not worth it
Start with Ares in tartarus and take Athena into asphodel
small portal
Start with Ares in tartarus and take Athena into asphodel
i did the opposite
I just cleared hydra
rustic vale
then swap to a defensive keepsake or utility for the elysium and styx
small portal
and now I wanna know the best p[ath intgo elysium
rustic vale
i did the opposite
I mean as long as you have both gods you can build merciful end, it’s just most weapons that even want to build merciful end want doom on their main attack more than they want athena on their special yk
rustic vale
and now I wanna know the best p[ath intgo elysium
You can either rock something like charon’s hourglass to get long lasting buffs (especially in the room between Elysium and Styx) that could make it to the Hades fight, or purse for some extra cash, or to just use a defensive keepsake like Eurydice’s acorn
Acorn is one that renews it’s effect each biome so you can take it for elysium and keep it on for styx
hollow swan
Y’all ever try the bracer 😒
rustic vale
Y’all ever try the bracer 😒
The Myrmidon Bracer? From Achilles? The one that gives situational damage reduction and extra damage taken?
jagged hamlet
Bracer is a bit crap
rustic vale
It’s not really worth the opportunity cost compared to other defensive keepsakes
Tbh pretty much every defensive keepsake eventually falls to Acorn but there are a few that are solid like
Tooth and Collar aren’t bad they just often aren’t saving you as much hp as an acorn
Spearpoint’s pretty solid if your styx tunnels are worse than your Hades fight, and I guess if you’re running extreme measures 4
latent moon
Just say choronacht
that's still 3 times longer than bow lmao if you want to say choronacht then that's fine but don't expect others to do the same
jagged hamlet
I like the youthful energy
latent moon
Y’all ever try the bracer 😒
if that's the one where you take less damage from the front but more from the back then no other than to max it out lol
if you want damage reduction, you can probably fit aphrodite on your build somewhere if you want
but majority of the time, you shouldn't really go for damage reduction
better off going for higher damaging things or just better defensive keepsakes
jagged hamlet
The best damage reduction is reducing the number of enemies as quickly as possible
latent moon
i guess technically speaking bracer can "mitigate" more damage than tooth can give lmao
yeah that's the whole point lmao
kill them first and dont get hit
damage reduction is a decent idea when you're learning the game but it falls off very fast since there's always a better option than to take damage reduction
hollow swan
if you want damage reduction, you can probably fit aphrodite on your build somew...
Either her or Athena
latent moon
Either her or Athena
athena's only damage reduction is bronze skin which is pretty garbage lol
it's like 5-8% dr
her reflect is nice tho
mostly on her dash but depending on the aspect the other stuff works decent
aphrodite has more damage tho so generally speaking aphrodite on the attack/special at the start is a lot better
hollow swan
athena's only damage reduction is bronze skin which is pretty garbage lol
Kinda true
I do like her god gauge tho
latent moon
it's pretty solid yeah
hollow swan
Dude aphrodites god gauge with Rama = chefs kiss
latent moon
those things dont really do anything for each other lmao
oh i guess they're not attacking you
the stun is pretty negligable on bosses tho
latent moon
zeus and dio call deal more damage over time
hollow swan
True
latent moon
also rama doesnt charge god calls that fast compared to some other aspects/builds
hollow swan
But I like instant dmg
latent moon
hit frequency > damage
hollow swan
also rama doesnt charge god calls that fast compared to some other aspects/build...
Whateveerrrerre
latent moon
lmao okay buddy
if you want to deal damage consistently with aphro call then you'd wanna use chiron, zeus, non-hestia rail, and flurry jab spear
although aphro full calls dont charge often except against bosses
rustic vale
athena's only damage reduction is bronze skin which is pretty garbage lol
unshakeable mettle
jagged hamlet
Gotta love how a third of the boons seem expressly designed to mislead well-intentioned redditors
rustic vale
Either her or Athena
Aphrodite can pretty easily get you down to about 45-50% damage reduction with just her own boons, where Athena gets to like 5-10%
latent moon
a third of the aspects too lmfao
arthur, hades, gilga, talos, chiron, chaos
what else
rustic vale
But I like instant dmg
It’s all fun and games until you inevitably end up using a 100% gauge against Hades when he’s right up on a breakpoint so your extra damage just doesn’t count
one of the numerous advantages of minicalls with dio and zeus is that they rip up everything around them while only taking 25% of your gauge to launch, so you’re lossing 4* less investment if you hit a bosses breakpoints (where they go into the invulnerability bubble)
You also absolutely still rip up bosses and regular rooms with a dio call and a zeus call like
you can easily hit 25% in a regular room and just use your call to tear thru what’s remaining, which you definitely can’t with aphrodite.
deep phoenix
Weird question but can you get flurry shot for aspect of zagreus bow
devout terrace
baj unmodded seeded
mysterra modded unseeded
angel modded unseeded
angel unmodd...
bai was the first modden unseeded
lavish sorrel
baj unmodded seeded
mysterra modded unseeded
angel modded unseeded
angel unmodd...
"Other chinese player" is Aether I think. I remember having that name brought up when GY had a resurgence
sterile crystal
ive seen this used sarcastically so many times i cant tell if ur being genuine l...
I'm being genuine
barren jay
Hi everyone, new member of the server here, and 28 runs into HADES. Game's final boss has been kicking my ass for the last month or so, but I wouldn't have it any other way!
I had a random flash of inspiration last night to replicate the game's Title & Main Menu screen entirely in Figma.
While I set out to originally recreate the same UI as the videogame, finding the assets was a huge hassle and I eventually had to settle with the assets I could find online. This also led me to make what I think are improvements to the layout of the overall UI. Lemme know what you think.
P.S: This is still WIP and I intend to add more movement to this design, especially idle animations to the character to make the screen more engaging.
Also, I hope sharing a link here doesn't count as self-promotion and get me banned
empty copper
Are a few songs from Hades 1 OST on spotify greyed out for people?
old bluff
yes
severe grove
Are a few songs from Hades 1 OST on spotify greyed out for people?
I came here just to say this lol. I had a sudden urge to listen to a certain duet and it doesn’t seem to be on Spotify anymore :,,)
empty copper
I came here just to say this lol. I had a sudden urge to listen to a certain due...
I had a playlist of some my favorites and saw The Unseen Ones greyed out
hopefully they come back, might just be spotify bugging
severe grove
I found a playlist with most of the songs, but quite a few are missing
Darren giveth the bangers and he can taketh them 😔
runic jungle
Something I noticed but I don't think I've ever seen Charon have healing items in the final area before hades boss.
Rng super hates me when it comes to this game😔
hollow granite
Can a Duo Boon, drop during the Trial of the Gods, if the Gods are opposing one another during said trial?
old bluff
Duo boons can not drop from trials at all
old bluff
Something I noticed but I don't think I've ever seen Charon have healing items i...
That's not possible
hollow granite
Duo boons can not drop from trials at all
Ah. That's really useful information that I wish I knew, before accepting this trial. Why is the game designed like this? If I may ask
runic jungle
That's not possible
Wait is it not possible for him to not have healing items in that area?
I mean that would make me feel a lot better about him not giving me healing when I need it the most lol
old bluff
No, only max health, poms, and Boons can show up in shop
fervent radish
the main healing in styx is the fountain in sack room
old bluff
(other than Anvil and Blood ofc)
runic jungle
the main healing in styx is the fountain in sack room
Assuming you don't get beaten by poison before you find the sack😔
Tho this run I'm doing now isn't too bad since I have tidal dash and strong drink.
fervent radish
just use the wells tbh
tidal dash and breaking wave make styx pretty straightforward
hollow granite
Um. I just killed the Minotaur ||last and he said "thank you." What uh. What's the story behind these two people? Killed them dozens of times and no response before to indicate he'd be thankful for a defeat||
mint coral
he likes a good fight
and between them, nothing wrong really
theseus killed the mino, when theseus goes to elysium he asks to bring asterius with him
asterius was getting sent to tart/aspho
mint coral
a what
hollow granite
A "chad"
mint coral
not sure tbh
like I only know him from killing the mino, and dio hating him
cuz he left Ariadne on an island or smth like that
old bluff
Theseus was kind of an ass in mythos, yes
mint coral
oh yeah he accidentally caused his dad to die too iirc
stiff obsidian
guys lets play hades
old bluff
Yes, he forgot to change the color of his sail, so his dad thought he was dead and threw himself of a cliff
hollow granite
Ah. I see . I think he's a perfect rival for Z. I'm glad we don't have the opportunity to bond with him like the other bosses. Though I wouldn't mind sharing some nectar with the minotaur
fervent radish
guys lets play hades
stiff obsidian
what bouldy
fervent radish
savestate time potentially
hollow granite
Bouldy is the goat
hollow granite
fervent radish
for eris yeah
stiff obsidian
what do you want from ares
hollow granite
Nothing. I don't have any more duos i need from him
old bluff
Why do you have nasty dash
fervent radish
also yeah lvl1 rare doom is rough
hollow granite
Maybe the death clutch one
fervent radish
lvl 3 true shot
mint coral
what wep is this
hollow granite
Fistys
fervent radish
do you have ME and impending doom?
hollow granite
I don't have either
hollow granite
Oh. Merciful end? I got that. First time I've ever gotten it!
fervent radish
impending is next priority then, esp since you have lvl1 doom
hollow granite
Why do you have nasty dash
How is it Narshty?
mint coral
wait how much do 2 poms add anyways
similar enough apparently 
mint coral
How is it Narshty?
nasty is the old name of drunken dash
and way funnier name
along with titan toppler (divine dash)
hollow granite
Oh. I was trying to get some duo.
mint coral
for merciful end builds you want divine dash instead
hollow granite
My build is made up of minor prophecy requirements. In short, I'm about to be killed by my father
old bluff
Don't take any other dash than Divine dash if you are going for ME
hollow granite
Oh nice. He didn't kill me
Does Hades use an invulnerable bubble, whenever you use a Greater Call? Or am I just unlucky with my timing?
stiff obsidian
you timed it bad probably
mint coral
Does Hades use an invulnerable bubble, whenever you use a Greater Call? Or am I ...
he goes impervious at 2/3rds, 1/3rd of his hp in p1
p2 is at 50%
hollow swan
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1275926519717298221/1277316189483176049/I...
Ain’t no way bro bought the titan blood / diamond
hollow granite
Ain’t no way bro bought the titan blood / diamond
I used to. Now i only do it if my build is gonna win 100%
hollow swan
I used to. Now i only do it if my build is gonna win 100%
Ah
How do you even save ur obol that much
latent moon
Just not buying anything from midshops and taking a lot of gold doors lmao
Golden touch probably
hollow granite
Golden touch probably
I've always wondered if golden touch was the better option
stiff obsidian
no
hollow granite
he goes impervious at 2/3rds, 1/3rd of his hp in p1
Thanks I used this advice and god a greater call on him late 2nd phase
It's been a long day. I just tried to reload Fists. Like the rail
hollow granite
Defeating the minotaur, last, has some odd phrases. Is there a place where I can read all the odd phrases he says
rustic vale
I've always wondered if golden touch was the better option
The only 2 use cases are if you’re trying to guarantee you get the styx shop blood/diamond, or if you’re doing the monthly challenge for January 2023
otherwise it’s just better to take deep pockets because the earlier you use your obols the more value you gain from them (especially in terms of build control in tartarus)
hollow granite
Would Dark Foresight, raise the chances of an Event Stage happening (such as sussypus and bouldy), or does it not raise the chances of Event Stages?
hollow granite
but you should use dark foresight anyways lmao
Yes it is good. But I'm really trying to focus on these event stages. Does Dark Foresight lower the chances?
hollow granite
Is it possible to use fared authority to get an Event/Quest door (such as sissyfus and bouldy)?
mint coral
no
sacred maple
Hello there, this will be rant. I'm trying to break through H20. Who in the dev team thought it would be a good idea to make a pact of punishment requirement to complete the game in super short time, THEN put RNG in the final level that can add multiples minutes?? How is that not insane?
Thanks for coming to my rage talk
mint coral
sack moment
tho gonna be honest, at 20 heat even a 5 sack shouldn't be that bad
but idk the rest of your pact/build
fervent radish
Hello there, this will be rant. I'm trying to break through H20. Who in the dev ...
20 heat isn’t so high that the sack is the reason you lost
sacred maple
guys I never did 20 heat before, it's where my skill level is right now XD
fervent radish
All g
sacred maple
but yeah both times my build weren't awesome so actually you're right
just feels like a very unfair mechanic
fervent radish
Yeah sack sucks
Modded fixes the rng aspects of the game in many ways
Highly recommend
sacred maple
modded my beloved
I'm playing on Switch sadly ahah
fervent radish
Rip
mint coral
just mod your switch
fervent radish
Real
little flume
Is the Charon steal option RNG? I haven't found it no matter how often I visit him at any point, do I have to have his trinket equipped?
sacred maple
I see it very infrequently, and when I do it's in tartarus so I don't even try 😛
little flume
I see it very infrequently, and when I do it's in tartarus so I don't even try �...
Sadge, I'm trying to get the fated list done for doing it twice, presumably in the same run bc I've definitely done it at least twice
mint coral
Is the Charon steal option RNG? I haven't found it no matter how often I visit h...
22% chance when entering midshop
sacred maple
from the wiki "A sack of 300 Charon's Obol randomly appears behind him under some circumstances. It only appears at shops mid-way through biomes, not ones immediately preceding a boss fight, and requires that you have beaten the final boss at least once. It has a 22% chance of appearing."
little flume
And that has to be done twice on the same run for the list or?
mint coral
(midshop being shops that aren't before the boss)
mint coral
And that has to be done twice on the same run for the list or?
nah
is across runs
and you can skip the bag if your build isn't ready
sacred maple
needs to be in a row though I think
little flume
Weird I've definitely done it twice :/
sacred maple
needs to be in a row though I think
and after seeing the prophecy I guess
little flume
Massive RIP I guess, I hate that it's such RNG and isn't guaranteed somehow
mint coral
yeah has to be 2 victories in a row, if you have done them then is probably rng dialogue?
sacred maple
Btw Is the sack rng known? I heard in the dev react to speedrun that it's like 56% at room 2, but can't find the confirmation online or if the odds get better everytime
little flume
It's definitely after seeing the list I guess bc I didn't have the prophecy before
mint coral
Btw Is the sack rng known? I heard in the dev react to speedrun that it's like 5...
yeah is around 52% or so for a 2 sack
have fun with your coinflips to see if your speedrun goes well or no
hollow granite
Oh nice. I just got satyr sack on the first try for the first time
sacred maple
Oh nice. I just got satyr sack on the first try for the first time
Han, I thought it was impossible!
mint coral
Yeah 1 sack isn't a thing
hollow granite
It's not? Hm maybe i misread it. Even with fated authority?
latent moon
fated authority doesn't do anything about when you get the sack
it just changes the reward
it's impossible to get a 1 sack you prob just forgot you already did a tunnel
hollow granite
Fated authority does change the sack's location. I've tested it before. Its still pure rng though. So it doesnt guarentee the location or make it easier to find. I'm not sure how it works beyond that. I can't confirm that i got a sack on the 1st try though. And even if i did, it's unlikely to ever happen again
mint coral
Why would auth change the sack
old bluff
Fated authority does change the sack's location. I've tested it before. Its stil...
How did you test this?
hollow granite
How did you test this?
Backing up my saves and reloading for an unrelated thing. I wouldn't recommend it though. It's all rng and changing your path does little to change your direction
hollow granite
yes. exactly
latent moon
you can't really control it unless you're running a seed finder mod so it really doesn't do anything meaningful
hollow granite
yes. exactly
rustic vale
Hello there, this will be rant. I'm trying to break through H20. Who in the dev ...
Tbf the odds of added minutes are increasingly miniscule
rustic vale
It’s like 54% tunnel 2, 3x% tunnel 3, ?%tunnel 4 and 2% tunnel 5
rustic vale
Those numbers may be slightly off
brisk trail
Hey, so im trying to break through the Mount Olympus barrier with hades on my fourth rebirth. I’ve already a Cerberus tooth. Can someone help?
rustic vale
Those numbers may be slightly off
Either way, you’re most likely to get the lowest option, and a solid build should keep you on pace for staying under 20 minutes
brisk trail
Hades 2 isn’t even out yet
rustic vale
Hey, so im trying to break through the Mount Olympus barrier with hades on my fo...
These are certainly english words but in that order it makes no sense
brisk trail
Lmao!
brisk trail
These are certainly english words but in that order it makes no sense
Listen man, I just wanna get to the hades boss fight with my Zeus lightning bolt weapon. Can you help or not?
rustic vale
I can
It’s just some terminology didn’t quite click
Mount Olympus barrier? Fourth rebirth? those
Like 4th rebirth could mean your 4th escape attempt or your 4th revive or maybe even 4 heat
or something else entirely
brisk trail
It’s just some terminology didn’t quite click
Ok. So basically I’ve already consumed 3 Phoenix tears on my 4th rebirth. Mind you this is prior to my Cerberus tooth expedition, where I’ve a front canine. After getting that bone piece, I tried stacking my Athena robes of demise effect 12 times. Spoiler alert, it didn’t work. So, given this, I tried sneaking down the rabbit hole and into the black market, where I found Xür to supply me with some life potions. My main problem is that I can’t get past that Mount Olympus barrier. I’ve thrown erythrocytes at it, zealots, even neanders.
twin thistle
rustic vale
Ok. So basically I’ve already consumed 3 Phoenix tears on my 4th rebirth. Mind y...
Xur from destiny 2
sacred maple
It’s like 54% tunnel 2, 3x% tunnel 3, ?%tunnel 4 and 2% tunnel 5
han, yeah that's how it felt before, I guess I'm frustrated because I got two 5 stacks in a row XD
old bluff
Why are we throwing red blood cells
brisk trail
~~Xur from destiny 2~~
What? No! Xür. The black market dealer. The one where you can buy Cerberus toothes off of? Sparks of Testicles?
Now can you help
Or not?
sacred maple
Ok. So basically I’ve already consumed 3 Phoenix tears on my 4th rebirth. Mind y...
this gotta be some elaborate trolling XD
rustic vale
Now can you help
Or not?
I don’t really see why, the solution seems pretty straight forward
brisk trail
First off, I’m not trolling.
old bluff
I can't tell if this is the greatest troll I have ever seen or a language barrier
sacred maple
I mean none of the things you're mentioning exist in Hades except Cerberus and lucky tooth
brisk trail
I don’t really see why, the solution seems pretty straight forward
Which is?
rustic vale
If I told you it’d lose all the magic
jagged hamlet
Maybe is Google Translate!
sacred maple
Seems I’ll have to break into Mount Olympus my own way. Thanks guys.
if you're genuine we'll help you
ok so for example tell us what are rebirths and phoenix tears
can you provide a wiki links for these?
twin thistle
yeah theyre just trolling
jagged hamlet
If actually troll, they gave up fairly quickly! I'm currently thinking it's genuine
old bluff
What? No! Xür. The black market dealer. The one where you can buy Cerberus tooth...
Also, can we give a shoutout to "Sparks of Testicles"
sacred maple
yeah XD
old bluff
I can't tell if that is a Zeus joke or not
sacred maple
you gotta wonder what's the inner life of this person
are they wandering from discord to discord to do that?
jagged hamlet
It might legitimately be a translation error. I've seen a translated knife review suddenly take a turn into female parts because of translation issues
sacred maple
also possible
then it would be a fun game to try to figure out what phoenix tears and rebirths could be XD
old bluff
"robes of demise 12 times" is my biggest question
rustic vale
then it would be a fun game to try to figure out what phoenix tears and rebirths...
uhhh
I mean
I can source where a few seem to be from
but some stuff may just be made up
old bluff
Tears are DD's for certain
rustic vale
like this is literally all just either different game jargon or made up fantasy words
old bluff
Rebirth could be fourth life, fourth attempt, fourth win or four heat
rustic vale
athena robes of demise is just pomming bronze skin to high heavens
rustic vale
Ok. So basically I’ve already consumed 3 Phoenix tears on my 4th rebirth. Mind y...
I’ve already used 3 dd’s on my 4th {rebirth}. Mind you this is before my Skelly Tooth, I still have it. After getting tooth, idek something Athena (maybe pomming Holy Shield or Blinding flash a ton)?. Either way, they were unsuccessful. Then I went thru (chaos? Erebus? Or just normal means) to go to Charon for heals. I can’t get past (Heroes or Hades). I’ve thrown doom at it, lightning, idek I’m spitballing atp
rustic vale
Makes sense
old bluff
4th rebirth is prob fourth life
If 3 dd's have popped, you would be on your fourth life
rustic vale
It’s possibly also just trolling and I’m reading too hard into it
sacred maple
~~It’s possibly also just trolling and I’m reading too hard into it~~
either way this is very funny ahha, thank you for trying
merry pawn
saw a vid recently of a dude entering the theseus/asterios fight, and doing absolutely stupid damage. is that modded, or is there a trick?
mint coral
sounds like the average speedrun build
old bluff
This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.
merry pawn
ok, how do i squeeze that much damage out of the beowuldf shield? thats amazing
old bluff
This is Dio Beo, which takes advantage of several bugs, such as double pom scaling and the mirage bug
Flood flare Beo is the more popular version, it's peak is slightly lower, but it still has enough to instaphase dad
merry pawn
huh, coolbeans and thanks!
rustic vale
Flood flare beo is just like
a thousand times more consistent
and you aren’t sacrificing much for it
old bluff
Flood flare Beo is the more popular version, it's peak is slightly lower, but it...
Here is an example of a Flood Flare dad fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idm4pO4lke0
(I haven't plugged this vid in a while)
merry pawn
huh, how does he get so many hits out of the water burst? I've tried a poseidon build with the beo before, and couldn't seem to do that
old bluff
That's Mirage shot! It's the Artemis and Poseidon Duo boon, and it is bugged on Beowulf so instead of the second burst doing 30% damage, it does 100%
merry pawn
oh right! theeir duo gives you an extra cast, and the beo loads any casts into its charge attack
rustic vale
It’s actually just bugged on all the flare boons iirc… which would mean essentially the same thing if Hera didn’t also get trippy flare
merry pawn
i'm going to try this next. thanks bro!
old bluff
No Problem!
old bluff
It’s actually just bugged on all the flare boons iirc… which would mean essentia...
Only 5/8 iirc
Not bugged on Ares, Demeter, and Zeus
old bluff
So it is not impacted by mirage
rustic vale
But I wonder if the mirage shot cast gets hit by the zeus itc maybe
maybe
Or if it’s just a no
rustic vale
Not bugged on Ares, Demeter, and Zeus
Shame they had to nerf slicy flare even harder
hazy path
When you get to the part of the game where the contractor’s give you diamond prices, which ones do you guys prioritize first?
fervent radish
When you get to the part of the game where the contractor’s give you diamond pri...
doesn't matter, none of them really affect the gameplay
hazy path
doesn't matter, none of them really affect the gameplay
Alright thanks
rustic vale
When you get to the part of the game where the contractor’s give you diamond pri...
Rod of Fishing and Vanquishers keep would likely be the best to get earlier because they both promote resource gain (ignore darker thirst) so you can do more trades for more resources for more contractor upgrades, but personally I’d also prioritise Fated Keys > Vintage Nectar > Brilliant Gemstones > Pitch Black Darkness for your in run upgrade uogrades
Fated Keys is actually huge if you have Fated Persuasion
hazy path
Rod of Fishing and Vanquishers keep would likely be the best to get earlier beca...
Ooh I see
Yeah I’m using dated persuasion right now. On my 2nd upgrade
Fated*
I was thinking of going for that but I wanted some opinions if I should save that for later or not
rustic vale
Getting more rerolls from taking keys can mean one more shot at getting your hermes boons, or another roll for a duo, evade bad chaos curses/get good chaos buffs, reroll of a well, or in worst-case to reroll a purging pool given you’re running underworld customs
It’s just
it goes a long way
I mean potentially giving you another hermes shot in itself is massive
old bluff
Fated Persuasion is arguably the best mirror upgrade, so getting more of it is insane
rustic vale
the difference between, say, having rush delivery and not having rush delivery is night and day, and Fated Keys means more rush deliveries 
hazy path
whoa that’s pretty awesome. okay I’ll get it. And about Vanquisher’s Keep how important is it?
old bluff
What does Vanquisher’s Keep do again
rustic vale
means more trade broker
rustic vale
What does Vanquisher’s Keep do again
Gemstones on boss kill
old bluff
oh
rustic vale
It’s main purpose would just be trading up more resources for earlier upgrades and otherwise
knocking out your furniture once you’re running dark foresight
jagged hamlet
It's pretty important if you like to decorate the house 
old bluff
If you don't already have fountains fully upgraded, get on that
hazy path
Yeah I’m using broker a lot rn. Should I get Vanquisher to speed up my resource gain?
old bluff
(I don't think that takes diamonds)
rustic vale
Vanquishers should be a sizable boost in your gemstones per run
hazy path
what I do is use the gems on the keys to convert to nectar. Since Charon always sells Titan blood at Styx instead of Diamond
old bluff
It's a 50/50 right
old bluff
Both are good tho
hazy path
It's a 50/50 right
Yeah since I didn’t complete the game its the only reliable way to get it rn
(And broker)
rustic vale
Oh vanquishers keep is like
significantly less valuable if you aren’t killing Hades regularly 
hazy path
Ah I see. Alright I’ll get keys then.Idk how to beat 2nd stage hades yet so I was just trying to find ways to better my resources
rustic vale
2nd stage Hades is pretty telegraphed
especially since he won’t use darkness anymore
old bluff
What attack are you usually dieing to in p.2 dad?
hazy path
The skulls. It’s a skill issue on my end. I use dashes at the wrong time and hades kills me of the CD.
But then again I don’t feel like I’m worthy of even facing the boss rn. I only make Sytx due to the guy at Elysium who restores my DD. If I lose a DD in the thesus fight I consider the run failed tbh.
old bluff
I still lose dds to Heroes
north sandal
the bone hydra?
rustic vale
Lernie Tax is real
rustic vale
32 and 40 heat Lernie is a menace to society
rustic vale
uhhh
north sandal
?
rustic vale
I essentially play with 0% healing, 100% more damage taken and 40% faster enemies
among
hazy path
Yeah I do fine in Bone Hydra if it’s not the green one
rustic vale
everything else that comes with heat
old bluff
Lernie tax is so real
hazy path
What’s Lernie tax
old bluff
Losing a dd to Lernie
north sandal
i can barely get to hades on normal non heat runs lol i couldnt even imagine playing on heat
rustic vale
high heat Lernie takes your dd’s (or sd’s) commonly
old bluff
Me and all the homies hate Lernie
hazy path
ah I see. sorry I’m not familiar with heat yet
rustic vale
tbh if you’re playing with sd’s you’re losing your sd’s to everything anyways
old bluff
You cannot imagine the number of times I have been trolled by Pink head Lernie
north sandal
ngl
rustic vale
my favourite part is when I randomly get k.o.ed with no time to dodge out of a groundpound 
north sandal
i hate hades with a passion it makes me so mad to know im so close yet so far from beating the game
the first run at least
twin thistle
rustic vale
But then again I don’t feel like I’m worthy of even facing the boss rn. I only m...
anyways coming full circle, lossing a dd never means anything is over
north sandal
tbh i only restart if i lose a death defy on the first boss
usually a sign of bad things to come if i get alecto
rustic vale
even if you’re being super doomer about your run, you may as well use your remaining hp and dd’s to practice against Hades
hazy path
I think for me it’s weird because Hades doesn’t scares me like the Thesus fight. He’s more like don’t make a mistake or you die but Thesus and Asterius it’s more like keep moving stay alert of everything going on.
rustic vale
Well yeah there’s a reason you don’t take spear point to the Hades fight
north sandal
tbh i think its funny i can beat asterius without dying usually but theseus always makes me burn one
theseus*
rustic vale
Well yeah there’s a reason you don’t take spear point to the Hades fight
he doesn’t attack frequently enough to give it any value
old bluff
@mint coral We have another in need of your Heroes teaching
twin thistle
Unless you eat laser to face
north sandal
its not even that theseus is necessarily hard i just sometimes get bad rng on the god he calls
rustic vale
usually a sign of bad things to come if i get alecto
eh tbh there’s still quite a bit of time to turn the run around in asphodel because you still likely have your two hermes left and you can force in a 2nd god for your build
north sandal
or i eeat too many spears
mint coral
#h1-for-new-players message scroll down from there for unorganized heroes tips
One day I'll bother fixing that
north sandal
eh tbh there’s still quite a bit of time to turn the run around in asphodel beca...
true i just rather not fight alecto tho lmao, i usually like fighting tisiphone or meg bc i know i wont burn a dd
but ill try to learn alecto
and not be super doomer
mint coral
its not even that theseus is necessarily hard i just sometimes get bad rng on th...
If you really hate a certain effect and can afford the god, taking them removes them from the possible choices
old bluff
Also, don't be afraid of losing DD's, I once had a run lose 8 and still win lmao
north sandal
tbh only ones i hate are ares and demeter
mint coral
Theseus only calls from the ones you don't have
rustic vale
If you are afraid of losing DD’s just switch to SD
north sandal
yeah i try not to lose dds tho
not bc i over rely on them
but moreso bc i feel like theyre a sign of how good im doing
if i lose none its a good run
i lose one eh
like the way i see it is im not getting hit that much or dying too often which i feel is a sign of improvement
should i see it that way? maybe not but idk
how else i should see it
hazy path
real. I have yet to win a Theseus game without losing one. That’s kind of my goal rn.
rustic vale
I wonder where
north sandal
i think theseus is probably my biggest roadblock if not hades
temple of styx, not counting bad rng, is easy most of the time
hazy path
And I need to figure out how to deal with his difficult boons. I whiff a lot when he uses Poseidon and I heard its not even the hardest one he uses
north sandal
like the most rooms i had to go through on temple of styx was all of them lmao
i was so mad that run
mint coral
What does pos even add to theseus
rustic vale
I don’t even pay attention to which god it is anymore
mint coral
Does he actually knockback you
hazy path
which one youfind hardest is up to you
yeah it’s about how I play at the end of the day.
twin thistle
dem cyclones
old bluff
What does pos even add to theseus
Prob knockback lmao
rustic vale
What does pos even add to theseus
I think he’s the fast tracking spikes?
north sandal
least amount of doors i had to go through on ToS was like 2
i was very happy that run
old bluff
<:bouldy:523329116934635534> dem cyclones
Dem cyclones are terrifying
hazy path
What does pos even add to theseus
he does the spike thing and I miss time the dash and take damage
north sandal
i think my favorite god for theseus to call upon is artemis
old bluff
Is his the pattern across the arena or is that Arty
north sandal
considering he only attacks the middle of the screen
hazy path
When he does Artemis I’m pretty much all set
north sandal
as far as im aware
north sandal
like in my experience as long as you avoid the middle of the screen ur golden on artemis
mint coral
Athena is annoying
north sandal
what does that do
old bluff
It's been so long since I last had a run where Thesues was alive for longer then 5 seconds
rustic vale
It's been so long since I last had a run where Thesues was alive for longer then...
Wanna see one
I just remembered I had one on my phone for ?!? reason
hazy path
lmao that’s fire. Hope I get to that point soon
rustic vale
mint coral
what does that do
He makes himself impervious for like a sec after each attack
rustic vale
Oh that’s what was up with that clip
thank you previous me for naming the file so descriptively
mint coral
That is a good description yeah
old bluff
I was about to ask where meg
rustic vale
I was confused about why it was 0 heat
mint coral
I was gonna mention the - that
hazy path
Alright I appreciate the help guys. I’ll grab Cthonic Keys and work on some fate prophecy stuff
rustic vale
I think I clipped it because I was surprised about how fast it was given my build felt like garbage… maybe
that was the first escape on that file iirc
old bluff
Fo0 kinda comfy
rustic vale
Yeah
mint coral
Fo0 is so comfy
mint coral
Brightswords don't 2 frame you
rustic vale
I was about to send the victory screen but I just remembered I have a second clip from that rhn
old bluff
God, I hate Brightswords
north sandal
should i take drunken flourish or positive outlook
mint coral
I'm still sad by that death I had on uh, 40 fists
old bluff
What weapon
mint coral
Where I just slowly walked into a brightsword
rustic vale
old bluff
Prob positive outlook
mint coral
should i take drunken flourish or positive outlook
What's the third
north sandal
third boon? drunken strike but i already have curse of agony
mint coral
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795659377755422742/1243619224077864990/4t...
Mwah
rustic vale
ngl I’d probably take drunken strike
mint coral
Also same ^
old bluff
Dio attack replace kinda nice if you are not going for ME
north sandal
so replace curse of agony?
old bluff
What rarity
north sandal
oh
north sandal
asphodel
rustic vale
The rarity is more about how strong of a doom you’d be losing than anything related to drunken strikes strength
north sandal
and also i think a normal curse fo gony
old bluff
Common?
north sandal
yeah
old bluff
Take the replace
north sandal
okay
rustic vale
common doom -> rare drunken strike is a completely different ball game than epic doom -> heroic drunken strike,
Sidenote but what other gods do you have rn?
mint coral
How long was that manip
rustic vale
What
rustic vale
That was the 8th escape attempt, and the (4th according to the file name) but presumably fifth manip
Unless I skipped a cast number when I was manipping
Holy I lowkey thought i was using SD but nooo
I was using a single dd because I didn’t have the darkness for more ☠️
mint coral
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1233761560653205546/1277478042184187915/Screenshot_20240826-000104.png?ex=66cd4fa3&is=66cbfe23&hm=b6dc740e757340a13dfce60569579871e5b622cca66b069c85861399043e49ab& I still have mobile discord show me the links like this so I missed the file name
old bluff
Did you even lose it
rustic vale
alt side?
mint coral
My fresh file unlocked it post credits iirc
old bluff
+2 casts, man's got his priorities straight
rustic vale
Lemme check that file and see how early I had those
I think it maymve been run 4
Wait do I even have admin chamber on that file
mint coral
Also I keep looking at your pfp and thinking you are bananas for a sec just cuz of color
mint coral
Cute
rustic vale
My switch is dead
old bluff
rip
rustic vale
the bag that had my switch charging cable is nowhere to be found
possibly left at a friends house
rustic vale
I think it maymve been run 4
Given my run 4 had shadow presence
It was sometime between run 5-8
I’d tend towards earlier
rustic vale
Also I keep looking at your pfp and thinking you are bananas for a sec just cuz ...
This was the other option I was considering:
God gamer at TotK
Actually I think 90% of my monster compendium is photos of me taking damage from the monster in question
lavish sorrel
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/1248037604125966397/...
Never seen a cleaner first-playthrough first-win-screen 
tulip hound
Because of Hades I hate rats now
north sandal
good news and bad news
good news is i got hades down to 6 hits p much
bad news is
i lost still
also
im using spear
should i get trippy shot (epic) or dionysus's aid (epic)
north sandal
hm ok
jagged hamlet
Very important: do not take other sources of Hangover so you don't overwrite the strong Hangover from the Aid
little flume
Is Guan Yu a really bad weapon or am I just using it wrong?
jagged hamlet
Is Guan Yu a really bad weapon or am I just using it wrong?
Nyaanyaa's Guan Yu Guide
Generally on Guan Yu, the hammers you want are Charged Skewer > Quick Spin > Massive Spin > Serrated Point. Breaching Skewer and Serpent Wing also alright. And Breaching Skewer becomes top priority for the second hammer if you have Charged Skewer already.
Charged Skewer shortens the startup of Guan Yu's Special a whole lot and lets you hold your Special for up to triple base damage.
You'll want Heartbreak Flourish or Deadly Flourish ideally, anyway, for the high % damage. Guan Yu's Special has 45 base damage, piercing, and wide AOE. Anything with % damage is good on Attack except Tempest Strike is unorthodox and requires fully leaning into Poseidon to make it work (though it can be effective and fun).
For optimal DPS, you're either doing Special > Dash-Strike x2 or Cast > Dash-Strike x2 with Guan Yu. Cast for single-target, Special when you can hit multiple enemies with it (or if you have Charged Skewer). And just your Special and reposition if it's enough to one-shot things (which it often is if you have Charged Skewer).
There are two ways to charge the spin: from a normal Attack and from a Dash-Attack. 99% of the time you want to charge from a Dash-Attack. And there are three ways to release a spin: let go of Attack, Dash, and Dash-Attack. Letting go of Attack is the safest method and how you want to release it most of the time. It's also usually the best method for keeping the spin on your enemy. Releasing with a dash gives you i-frames and a lot more range for the spin, but it travels faster. You mainly use that to quickly escape a situation or to throw your spin at very far-away enemies. And releasing with a Dash-Attack gives you the extra range that a Dash gives but without any of the i-frames, but the benefit is that you can immediately charge a new spin. This method is the most aggressive and best for DPS, and it can keep you within the Deflect spin if you happen to use Divine Strike.
tepid light
pog, congrats
north sandal
i have all death defiances for hades
heres hoping i dont choke
I DID IT
I BEAT HIM
I BEAT HIM
NO DEATH DEFIES USED
ill post the build in a sec
tepid light
nice job!
north sandal
it was an aphrodite weak build primarily with some help from dionysus and demeter
what really helped was the extra damage against enemies inflicted with weak
plus the extra damage affording by the jab distance daedalus hammer
amonst other things
twin thistle
sweet surrender doesnt do a lot unless your main damage output is from flat damage, its additive like everything else
twin thistle
yeah just saying the impact is probably being misattributed
north sandal
Beat hades again
Burnt all three death defies, one strangely to a normal mob in Elysium and two to hades
Won with the Stygian blade this time
Not my favorite weapon but I gave it a shot and it panned out
north sandal
Never using the bow again
I beat hades with it but I really struggled in elysium, styx and hades lol
small portal
How does one beat hades??/ 😭
Ive tried like a million times now
he gets me every single time!!
stiff obsidian
go to the modding server
you didnt have to delete your message
i didnt even tell you how to get there 😐
mint coral
Sticky worked
north sandal
hm so far no sucessful attempts against hades with shield but im hopeful i can get him eventually
im trying to beat hades with all weapons
tulip hound
I used aspect of Zeus
tepid light
How does one beat hades??/ 😭
practice, practice, practice
that's probably not the answer you want but it's the best answer
small portal
practice, practice, practice
that's probably not the answer you want but it's t...
been at it for 2 days
tepid light
been at it for 2 days
i don't mean to be condescending at all, but that's not a lot
i remember when I first started playing, it took me much more than two days of diligent practice to get that first clear
small portal
i don't mean to be condescending at all, but that's not a lot
i remember when I...
damn okay
I am kinda trying to rush it
cause I wanna start playing hades 2
tepid light
rushing will cause you to make mistakes and struggle even more
small portal
rushing will cause you to make mistakes and struggle even more
true
I just don't get why the game has such a high difficulty spike at the end
like its normal to have some but its quite a lot
cause I can easily no hit thesius and minataur
but barely can hit phase 2 of hades
small portal
cause I can easily no hit thesius and minataur
easily might be a strech but I can do it... as I have done it
mint coral
https://docs.google.com/document/d/137Vqe-8fvStMJ_HMlBKWwq3SVdoOED0lOpBBSmgGwtQ/edit?usp=sharing by nyaanyaa
@small portal
small portal
https://docs.google.com/document/d/137Vqe-8fvStMJ_HMlBKWwq3SVdoOED0lOpBBSmgGwtQ/...
who is nyaanyaa?
anyways thanks
mint coral
Old user here
I credit her stuff cuz is easier to find them again through discord search lol
If you search "by nyaanyaa" you'll see a bunch of different guides
The most common guide linked is the fishing one
small portal
Old user here
oh... also do you have any good builds I can try?
old bluff
Not the Guan Yu one?
mint coral
oh... also do you have any good builds I can try?
What weapon/do you have aspects yet
small portal
What weapon/do you have aspects yet
I'lll just say nothing is upgraded even a bit
although....
I have
zag sword
the achilles spear
chiron bow
all the shields
zag fists(what I mainly use with athena dash and zeus m1)
the eris rail
thats it
mint coral
All low lvl I assume
mint coral
What you are doing with zag fists works well
Also works for eris
Zeus shield can do the same but with zeus special instead
old bluff
I can’t believe I am going to say this, but Dio chiron is good for new players
mint coral
Ig so
But if is like lvl 1 chiron ehhhh
2 volleys for 5 hangover stacks sounds annoying
small portal
What you are doing with zag fists works well
I tried to get merciful end twice
after which I gave up
mint coral
ME is rough without the late mirror skills
small portal
even using a reroll does not word
small portal
ME is rough without the late mirror skills
I have almot everything maxed out
the rarity ones and the money one is untouched
I got one upgrade on the reroll as well
old bluff
Duo boons just kinda suck to get
small portal
Duo boons just kinda suck to get
I ususally end up getting 1 or 2
Merciful End is just painstaking
mint coral
the rarity ones and the money one is untouched
Which rarity one you mean
Also deep pockets is good for builds in general
Early money is really good
small portal
also why do people prefer chthonic vitality over dark regen?
i personally prefer the later one
mint coral
You have the fountain for post boss heals already
And you never want to take darkness doors really
Especially once you get the contractor upgrades
Also it doesn't work in Styx
And dark foresight, one of the strongest skills, reduces how much darkness you see in generao
Cthonic vitality adds quickly if you avoid dmg for a few chambers, shines a lot in styx
small portal
And you never want to take darkness doors really
I usu ally do.. gotta work on that then ig
mint coral
Also works as a discount for chaos chambers
You heal 3 on entering chaos and 3 more on exit
small portal
Yeah but DR is esprcially helpful in elysium
mint coral
Then it goes back to how you shouldn't take darkness in general
There's also healing from shops/charon wells
Chance at patty too
mint coral
Then it goes back to how you shouldn't take darkness in general
(also with D.foresight, you see like one or two blue laurels in all of elysium)
And you are better off taking keys/gems usually
small portal
Then it goes back to how you shouldn't take darkness in general
yeah but then hwo do I max out the mirror?
i still need to get afew more upgrades
mint coral
Darkness from bosses is actually a decent amount
You want eclipse from chaos more than anything
small portal
You want eclipse from chaos more than anything
wait I shd take the chaos portals?
mint coral
Chaos is good in general yeah
mint coral
The buffs can pretty big too
small portal
ig....
mint coral
Maybe slightly less for fists dmg wise but there's always utility
small portal
21 hp tho? 😭
mint coral
Hp/rarity for hermes or duos
small portal
Also chaos skips a normal combat
ig...
mint coral
The thing about chaos more than anything is knowing where you are in the biome
If you know you are like 2 chambers from the boss, don't do it if you see you won't be able to deal with the curse
Rerolls also make chaos safer
small portal
If you know you are like 2 chambers from the boss, don't do it if you see you wo...
how do I know?
mint coral
Cuz yeah, sometimes they do take the oiss and just throw you the worst curses possible
mint coral
how do I know?
Open the boon menu and check top right for chamber number
C12 is the last Tartarus combat
C22 for asphodel and c34 for elysium
Styx can vary and it doesn't spawn chaos so doesn't matter
old bluff
Also with the DR vs CV, iirc darkness rewards are for 10 darkness, which will heal you for 6, which is the same amount of health you would regenerate with CV from entering and leaving the chamber
mint coral
^ darkness doors are tiny
That's why for darkness grinding is mostly from bosses
Once you can beat dad regularly, he alone drops 250 darkness unboosted iirc
Get lucky with eclipse from chaos and he can drop like 1k alone
Sisyphus chamber is also a neat bonus
- one later item from him
There's also troves/buying darkness from charon shops/wells
And ofc also trades with the broker
merry pawn
argh, Zag is now bff's with Dusa, not gettin' married. damn.
rustic vale
Yeah but DR is esprcially helpful in elysium
?!?
How
It’s got the same problem as every other biome where you barely see any darkness
and the darkness gains aren’t higher (unless you went out of your way to pick up darkness boosting boons)
mint coral
Also maybe I'm remembering wrong but don't blue laurels appear less in general during ely?
Compared to like tart/aspho
old bluff
Yes
rustic vale
Also maybe I'm remembering wrong but don't blue laurels appear less in general d...
Feels like it
Even though ely is a longer biome, I hardly see any blue laurels at all
old bluff
With DF, the only way to get Blue laurels is out of a Chaos gate
Not "only" but by far the most common
rustic vale
oh what
mint coral
Oh
latent moon
blue laurel in ely with DF is a jumpscare
stiff obsidian
whats df
latent moon
deez futs
stiff obsidian
😱
latent moon
dark foresight lmao
merry pawn
whats the difference3 between the gold and blue laurels on the room reward spheres? is it just aesthetics?
stiff obsidian
whats the difference3 between the gold and blue laurels on the room reward spher...
merry pawn
ohh, ok then, thanks bro!
jagged hamlet
That's a fantastic infographic
fervent radish
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/520688402958516254/660997121406926849/had...
Wow, permanent upgrades sound a lot better than temporary ones 😃
stiff obsidian
agree
jagged hamlet
The classic roguelite dilemma
hollow granite
Does the anvil at The Boatman's shop at the Mouth of Styx, only offer hammer upgrades you've unlocked in your prophecies? Or can it be upgrades you've yet to obtain in your prophecies?
jagged hamlet
I think it's any: I have some fuzzy memories of getting prophecies done via anvil. Pls someone confirm or deny
north sandal
managed to beat hades with all weapons
hollow granite
managed to beat hades with all weapons
Which was your least favorite experience? Mine was rail the first time