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stiff obsidian
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with dc2

fervent radish
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The radiation takes care of dc2

stiff obsidian
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just spray special to strip it off

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i said this is chiron bruh

fervent radish
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Oh holy

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I’m slow

stiff obsidian
fervent radish
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I thought the witch projectiles were hellfire

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Lmao

stiff obsidian
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the purple makes sense

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luci 50 is free its a rail after all

fervent radish
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Real

junior lion
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how do i do zeus favor

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and artemis

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and ares

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and the wine dude

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and hermes

old bluff
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This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

latent moon
junior lion
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bruh someone better answer im going nuts

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this bot needs to off itself

latent moon
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well first off the bot just does that to keep the message at the bottom of the chat so people don't talk about it here

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it's not targeted

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secondly, the wiki probably has all the stuff you need for favors

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bc i got no clue off the top of my head

stiff obsidian
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why hate

junior lion
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because its so annoyting and uneccesary

latent moon
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it's quite necessary

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and it being annoying is subjective

junior lion
latent moon
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frankly i find hades 2 spoilers way more annoying

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idk if the wiki is too vague then just keep playing and you'll get it eventually lmao

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i straight up just played and got them all eventually

junior lion
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yeah but im tryna beat this game

stiff obsidian
stiff obsidian
mint coral
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The favors you need are all clearly specified on the wiki tho

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Zeus/arty can just be rng hell

junior lion
latent moon
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but i have beat like the

mint coral
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Which one are you looking at

latent moon
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the content of what they have so far

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vaguely

junior lion
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arccording to the wiki i should have like 5 more favors than i do

mint coral
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Ah

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Welcome to hades dialogue system lmfao

latent moon
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Zeus' favor involves hearing the other Gods' opinions of him, as well as seeing Zeus express a desire to reconnect with Hades, along with Hades' response.

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ngl this feels pretty clear lmao

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straight up just talk to people

junior lion
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ive talked to everybody

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multiple times

mint coral
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While the game tries to prioritize dialogues for stuff you have done recently, sometimes the game refuses to continue

latent moon
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talk more i guess

junior lion
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i hate this game

latent moon
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arty is also more talking lmao

mint coral
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So true bestie

latent moon
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dio's is pretty straightforward on the wiki

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Dionysus's favor requires forging bonds with at least 6 different characters, and gifting a minimum of 10 Ambrosia to any number of characters.

mint coral
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If you have all pre reqs but nothing is happening the answer is always "just do more runs"

latent moon
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hermes' is also pretty specific

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Hermes' favor requires speaking with him while having the Lambent Plume equipped and max leveled to 3*. It does not matter how many stacks of its bonus you have.

junior lion
junior lion
latent moon
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Ares' favor requires completing the War-God's Bloodlust prophecy and slaying at minimum 10,000 enemies total. The affinity gauge will not immediately unlock upon completing the prophecy, but rather from a dialogue with Ares a few encounters later.

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also straight forward

junior lion
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i have 16k kills and should have gotten that one too

latent moon
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idk despite the wiki kinda sucking to use, it's pretty straight forward with understanding the favors

junior lion
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i wish

latent moon
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it's just dialogue rng really

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not much else to it

junior lion
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yeah whatever

latent moon
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if you're just trying to 100% the game as fast as possible well that's unfortunate lmao

junior lion
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what does skellys second trophy give

latent moon
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beat 16 heat and find out :)

mint coral
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And that's why we don't have an epilogue% category lmfao

stiff obsidian
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i just got two of my most hated aspects out of the way im so happy

junior lion
latent moon
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was almost 12 hrs i think

mint coral
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Haelian moment

latent moon
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and also a good chunk of those hours could've been like

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not using those aspects lmao

junior lion
latent moon
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yeah lmao

stiff obsidian
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only 5 left

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funny how my least cleared weapon is bow

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gilga, pos, zagbow hera chiron

latent moon
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zag bow is prob gonna be the easiest tbh

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or at least like

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it's more straight forward lmao

stiff obsidian
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yeah

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chiron will be 15% harder

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i dont think thts how it works

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but yeah

latent moon
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i mean

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technically

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i guess lmao

rustic vale
stiff obsidian
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just get the lvl 11 epic pp

rustic vale
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it’s technically working at 77% of the efficiency of Zagbow

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if you exclude any extra crit boons from both builds

rustic vale
stiff obsidian
rustic vale
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I gotchu pookie

stiff obsidian
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thanks tho

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i now know i need common rd

rustic vale
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I tried to make it a lil more intuitive by using the 100% 😔

stiff obsidian
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edward lurking

old bluff
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nuh uh

zinc ridge
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edward lurkin

rustic vale
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It’s literally just
100%
———
85%+3*15%
in no words math

stiff obsidian
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This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

rustic vale
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= 1/1.3 ≈ 0.77

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Sticky bot impersonation in this year of our lord 2024? Go back to the dark ages

old bluff
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This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

stiff obsidian
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This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

zinc ridge
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This channel

old bluff
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(and category)

zinc ridge
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is for

rustic vale
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This channel (and category) is for discussing the second Hades game. Please go to #h1-discussion to talk about Hades I

zinc ridge
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WHAT

old bluff
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discussing

zinc ridge
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the second

rustic vale
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You’re hallucinating

zinc ridge
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WAIT

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NO

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YOU-

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get out of my head 😭

old bluff
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no one is in your head

stiff obsidian
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ad bout to boot us from the server

zinc ridge
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who

old bluff
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AD is a mod

rustic vale
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Sticky bot is a mod

zinc ridge
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ok

old bluff
zinc ridge
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sticky bot L mod

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blocked him

old bluff
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This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to ⁠h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

stiff obsidian
old bluff
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Set up a macro and just spam it every 2 min

rustic vale
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Get SmolderRing in here rn for that purpose

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Or repurpose HellFire

stiff obsidian
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hellfirebot dead

zinc ridge
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i have never completed a run without stygius 🔥🔥🔥

restive harness
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Is there anyway to make the Chiron money bag appear?

rustic vale
zinc ridge
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i think it's random

junior lion
restive harness
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Or Is it always random chance?

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Damn

mint coral
rustic vale
restive harness
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I have not seen it in a long ass time

old bluff
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Charon money bag is a 22% chance

zinc ridge
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like in a run

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?

rustic vale
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It’s a 22% chance at any eligible shop

restive harness
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I want to rob him all the time

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Every run

stiff obsidian
rustic vale
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and you can only find him once a run

junior lion
rustic vale
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I have roughly 500 attempts if you count all the ones I ended early myself or quit out to seed

stiff obsidian
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i have no idea

rustic vale
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or actually like 530

stiff obsidian
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especially because of resets and stuff

latent moon
junior lion
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how many hours u got

old bluff
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I prob have some 10k attempts or so

junior lion
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DAMN

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touch some grqass

latent moon
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536 hours lmao

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idk how many attempts

rustic vale
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Cuz I have 460 on my main save file and 32 on my fresh save file and I’m assuming that I have 30 resets and purposeful quit outs to seed my own runs

junior lion
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damn

latent moon
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maybe like 1k attempts idk

rustic vale
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450 hours? Ish~

junior lion
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damn all of yall need to touch some grass 😭

old bluff
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I have like 850 hours or so, but I'm a speedrunner who degen resets

latent moon
rustic vale
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450 hours over 4 years of owning Hades isn’t bad

latent moon
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hades isn't like a new game technically lmao

old bluff
latent moon
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newish but like 500 hours in 4 years just means you really like the game lmao

stiff obsidian
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i hit 1 year of hades 16 days ago

latent moon
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it's not degenerate gaming

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false side is degenerate gaming tho

rustic vale
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That’d be like one hour every 3 days if I wasn’t playing the game in proper chunks of time

stiff obsidian
junior lion
rustic vale
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Oh definitely not

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My time spent in Hades is more concentrated then that

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But over my time having owned the game? I’d say it’s not bad

junior lion
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ok

stiff obsidian
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bananas and jazz are who got me through my noob phase of hades gladge

junior lion
rustic vale
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Like I put 600 hours into destiny 2 over a year so like I think my Hades hours are a bit more healthy

old bluff
junior lion
latent moon
old bluff
rustic vale
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I’m putting my 40 pact together for my first attempt with fists and

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ewwww

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Beyond 32 it’s like “huh that’s gross” “oh that’s worse”

latent moon
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what's wrong with hl5 dc2 cf1/js1 hs

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it's so much fun

stiff obsidian
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i watched haelian at like 2 am after ordering a sub and then follow it up with like 6 more hours of hades

latent moon
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lmao based

rustic vale
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I may hate myself when I get to elysium

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We’ll see

latent moon
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what

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are you not already doing em3

rustic vale
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oh no I have something on instead

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Unsure what

latent moon
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do you have em4 on lmao

rustic vale
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My 32 pact ain’t traditional because I hate em3 with a burning passion

stiff obsidian
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☹️

rustic vale
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so I have to turn it on for 40 heat

old bluff
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Em3 trash

stiff obsidian
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i love em3

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its basically just 1v1 with the bull

rustic vale
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em3 has beyblade asterius dude

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makes me have to stop playing my game for too many seconds

stiff obsidian
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just go after theseus then

latent moon
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im gonna do 40 heat achilles for hotw rq and see how bad that goes

stiff obsidian
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in my nem 50 that i just did he was spinning so much i nearly accidentally phased theseus before i phased asterius

rustic vale
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I always kill Theseus first cuz I jusr don’t want to deal with Asterius while theseus is on the field

stiff obsidian
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if u have ddash p1 theseus is just free

rustic vale
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on em3

stiff obsidian
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you can deflect his bombs and bullets

rustic vale
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I don’t end up with ddash a good chunk of the time

stiff obsidian
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sometimes i reset for tart ddash

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im a ddashoholic

rustic vale
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idk I use codex tech to wait for doors to show their options

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Don’t ask why I said that, I just though about it

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and decided “yeah that’s relevant somehow@

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when it very much wasn’t

stiff obsidian
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are you sleepy

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gilga or zag bow will be my next 50

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gilga actually has surprisingly decent damage

rustic vale
stiff obsidian
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but it feels so jank

rustic vale
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oh athena or hammer

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Hmm

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It’s fists

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I’ll take

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Ddash

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(Hopefully)

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W

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Huh

stiff obsidian
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hug

rustic vale
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!ps lightning strike

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Deciding between a pom and a heart rn

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and I can only really pom lightning strike up to lvl4 or take the heart

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Ddash ain’t exactly peak pom material

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Y’know what I always take more damage with fists then I intend so

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Heart

stiff obsidian
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i used to feel i straight up cant clear without ddash

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but i can manage without now

rustic vale
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I put down my game to brush my teeth before bed and then got distracted responding to texts

latent moon
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so like prob not a great idea

stiff obsidian
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No it just means ur good

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Im a trash hater just because it's not ddash 🗿

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Trash*

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It autocorrects

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Tdash

latent moon
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tbf it kinda like screws your tart time

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it's just faster on like the chunkier enemies

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i would've preferred tdash tbh

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but i prob would've timed out lmao

rustic vale
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I got uber distracted after sending that because I realise I was following 666 accounts on instagram and was like “hahaha I think I should cut that down a bit” (only a little superstitious) and got that number down to 496

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should and could probably be lower if I did a second run thru but it’s Hades time zagmad

stiff obsidian
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I don't even use Instagram

rustic vale
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Eh it’s more my generation I think

stiff obsidian
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And what generation is that

rustic vale
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good question

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Gen Z

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Just checked

stiff obsidian
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Generation Z (Gen Z) is the demographic group of people born between 1997 and 2012, making them between 11 and 26 years old as of 2023

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Bruh you think I'm 27+?

rustic vale
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Idk man

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2012 is gen z? wth

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Hold up

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Why’s my google different

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“That is why the generations today each span 15 years with Generation Y (Millennials) born from 1980 to 1994; Generation Z from 1995 to 2009 and Generation Alpha from 2010 to 2024. And so it follows that Generation Beta will be born from 2025 to 2039.”

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whatever

stiff obsidian
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There's an overlap

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2010+ is alpha

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And upto 2012 is genZ

rustic vale
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hmm

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interesting

stiff obsidian
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Actually ur right

rustic vale
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It’s just like

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There aren’t really great alternatives

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Like Facebook is predominately middle aged ppl

stiff obsidian
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Wait did you assume I was gen alpha

rustic vale
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Snapchat just… sucks as a platform

rustic vale
rustic vale
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And discord just has this “nerdy” nail attached to it

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which kinda leaves me at instagram for

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social media

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yk

stiff obsidian
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I only use discord 😭

rustic vale
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The thing with discord is like

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In my eyes

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This is

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gaming and informational

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It’s social media but not the same way

stiff obsidian
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Discord is my source of world news in the form of memes

rustic vale
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Let’s just say it’s more socially acceptable to ask new friends at university for their instsgram rather than their discord

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Same thing when I was in highschool

stiff obsidian
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Haha jokes on you for assuming I'd make new friends

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Or meet people

rustic vale
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True

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That’d require you to touch grass zagpls

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The horror

stiff obsidian
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What that

rustic vale
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Green stuff

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on the ground outside

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outside is like… if your spawn area in minecraft were real life

stiff obsidian
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I've heard of this place in stories

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Is it real?

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I like how the entire concept of Hades can be simplified to zag repeatedly attempting to touch grass

rustic vale
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I wonder what the shades think

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when they see this one guy just

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keep coming back for more

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to supposedly no avail

rustic vale
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I

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got to aspho

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had to sell my ddash

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bought a chaos portal from shop

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took chaos portal -> eurydice -> obols which turned out to be a fountain

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Triple free room

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Now I’m getting back to my game

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re-cliffhanging u

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Nevermind

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Just got crushed by Witches

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run joever because my only boon was a lvl5 common lightning strike

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I mean and premium vintage but that hardly counts

stiff obsidian
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Yeah that sounds bad

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Lvl 5 damn

rustic vale
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Level 5 lightning strike does 20 damage

stiff obsidian
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Lvl 2 epic strike 😭

rustic vale
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Also I got uh

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Alpha Overseer now

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cost me some 8000 darkness

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just died to Alecto likely due to my unfortunate call timing

stiff obsidian
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How do u even play on a switch

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Crazy

rustic vale
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I swear my past 3 unseeded runs have all started common lightning strike, common flourish, rare dash

rustic vale
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I picked up a logitech controller for cheap just to have something to use for a controller for my pc just to see what it would be like to play those games with it

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Both joysticks on the bottom is a crime

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playstation gamers must be insane I see how it’s rhe same design there

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Oh goodness is that the third chaos room split between c1 and c2 in that last 3 unseeded runs as well

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Crazy

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Does Hades 2 EA have controller support?

rustic vale
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“Hey guys, I’m new to Hades, Idek what a Hade is in the first place, nonetheless multiple of them. What should I pick here?”

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Hahaha I threw the run I need to get more defensive with fists against 40 heat Furies

stiff obsidian
stiff obsidian
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I think so atleast

stiff obsidian
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Wait

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I have Netflix

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I can just play Hades in class

rustic vale
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I didn’t really get to choose which gods I got when

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I got aphro first, saved the reroll and just took dash

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Then I got demeter with a pretty good +% special for demeter

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So I took it

stiff obsidian
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I simply can't imagine fists without ddash

rustic vale
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Got poseidon and choose between cast and +% darkness and immediate darkness

stiff obsidian
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Brb gonna install Hades mobile

rustic vale
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took the core for better zeus call odds

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Hit zeus call

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and died to Tisiphone

stiff obsidian
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Bruh

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Didn't know you can play GTA san andreas through Netflix

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And dead cells??

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Is there a Hades mobile??

rustic vale
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anyways

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Gave up on fists 40 heat decided to become a fists speedrunner instead

stiff obsidian
rustic vale
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I wonder if it’s region locked

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Ok so it’s tartarus and you have an epic doom on demeter; do you take hammer or 2nd ares

stiff obsidian
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Hammer

rustic vale
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rad

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I choose hammer already

stiff obsidian
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Why would you take 2nd ares

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U can only take impending which isn't even helpful until me

rustic vale
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Impending idk

stiff obsidian
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Detrimental even

rustic vale
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hunting blades pivot

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Oh breaching cross

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That makes up for me wasting 3 rerolls at the start to even see Curse of Agony

stiff obsidian
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Wait is it only on ios

rustic vale
stiff obsidian
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This is stupid i didnt know it's locked to ios

stiff obsidian
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I googled

rustic vale
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Wouldn’t be the first time

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Anyways

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TDASH GAMING

stiff obsidian
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Most mobile game playing PPL use Android

rustic vale
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Floodshot tdash oceans bounty hmm

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rare rare epic btw

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I’m thinking that while Floodshot gets rid of a core

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It opens up unshakeable mettle once I do find Athena

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is tdash worth the tartarus speed boost and just selling tdash at biome change

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Or alternatively

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I take Oceans bounty to hit my Unseen One sooner

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Lvl 4 epic doom walking into furies fight

rustic vale
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Now I just need to find Divine Dash, Merciful End, Impending doom

stiff obsidian
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Just

rustic vale
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🫡

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Haaha

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Immediately found ME once I found ddash

stiff obsidian
rustic vale
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What

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Discord tends to just

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swap what message I’m replying to

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Rerolled for 0 ichors zagcry

rustic vale
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Regardles

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How do we feel about Hades call on ME

stiff obsidian
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Packrat spotted

rustic vale
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I’m just going to roll with the Hades call and see where it goes

stiff obsidian
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I can't find the screenshot of my heat pb

rustic vale
stiff obsidian
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Scrolled through victory boasting for 15 mins and couldn't find anything

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Found it

rustic vale
stiff obsidian
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Yes js65

twin thistle
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Is that monodash eris bouldy

latent moon
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Dad call is good for burst damage and ME is pretty good at that

old bluff
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Hades call is prob best call on ME

drowsy ermine
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does each arrow from the bows special proc doom?

old bluff
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no, doom can only be proced once without a Dire misfortune

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and that only gives an extra 10-14

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damage

rustic vale
drowsy ermine
rustic vale
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yes

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But

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Doom just ain’t the play on bow special

drowsy ermine
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idk i js really like doom

rustic vale
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Just know pretty much everything aside from lightning will work betyer

old bluff
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Doom stacking is best with Rama special or something

rustic vale
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Assuming it’s chiron

dreamy mesa
rustic vale
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zeus is actually pretty good on any bow special that isn’t chiron

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and doom gets better on them too

dreamy mesa
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hera is a spread right?

rustic vale
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Everyrhing but chiron is spread

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chiron’s just the usual ask

dreamy mesa
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nah, i think rama is concentrated isn't it?

old bluff
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Hera does not need any help with damage

rustic vale
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and it far quicker and something you’ll actually be using semi often

dreamy mesa
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yeah, every time i've played rama I tend to lean special only

rustic vale
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I thinj you should give dash striking with Rama a shot

dreamy mesa
mint coral
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Special only rama is-

rustic vale
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one of the way’s you can play Rama

dreamy mesa
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it was less that I couldn't get the attack to work, and more that the special was just melthing everything

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so i didn't bother with anything else

old bluff
mint coral
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It is

old bluff
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may I have

rustic vale
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If the special was “melting everything” you might also want to try -> significantly stronger builds

dreamy mesa
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i had heroic zeus on the rama special

mint coral
# old bluff may I have

special only rama is unaruably the only way to make this trash weapon useable. and even then its only somewhat useable since it only has access to one special hammer. its basicially nothing compared to the superiority of chiron. the attack charges up way too slowly to be useable and shared suffering is a gimmick at best, it adds nothing to help pulling this aspect out of mediocrity. if youre lucky enough and get repluse shot you might - and I say MIGHT get the chance to actually get an attack off with this thing, and even then its simply not worth it. the attack speed is way too slow and the damage completly pales in comparison to actually fast hitting aspects like gilgamesh. its sad to say but supergiantgames design philosophy of making most hidden aspects basicially a slow and unusable version of their base weapon has backfired completly. first beowulf - now this. hidden aspects are supposed to be strong and rewarding for the sheer grind I had to go through to unlock them. I dont even know if I want to unlock hidden rail at this point

dreamy mesa
mint coral
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Reddit gave us the divine dash copypasta instead

old bluff
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Bro, how did they manage to flip the entire meta

dreamy mesa
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but yeah, going back to special doom
when i play hera i'm mostly just using the attack, not special, butif i got offered nothing else good from demeter or aphrodite or whatever, i'd put it on special because I can just quickly tap special to apply cold or weak to a room of mobs

old bluff
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Hera is a cast weapon

dreamy mesa
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yeah, that's what i mean by attack

old bluff
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Large enemies get one tapped by Crush shot, and larger groups of small enemies are grouped up to all be hit by the cast

dreamy mesa
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which leaves spread out groups

old bluff
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Special is kind of redundant because everything is already dead

dreamy mesa
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which like, doom on special wouldn't hurt

dreamy mesa
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specially after i got the hermes 0 second cast return

old bluff
dreamy mesa
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that sounds smarter than what i was doing

stiff obsidian
dreamy mesa
mint coral
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Bouldy is always cracked

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🦾 bouldy

stiff obsidian
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real

restive harness
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Bouldy my beloved

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Up vote if you made it through the secret Bouldy boss fight

lavish sorrel
drowsy ermine
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if i get a gods keepsake mid-run then give up will i lose the keepsake?

stiff obsidian
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keepsakes are permanent

mint coral
drowsy ermine
#

ight

dreamy mesa
#

wait, doesn't 'give up' return you to the last save before the run started?

rustic vale
dreamy mesa
#

i thought 'give up' reset everything, including permenant stuff like upgrading weapons before you leave

rustic vale
#

Give up takes you all the way back to when the last time you entered the training hall was

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that’s the state of things

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so anything you didn’t after entering that hall just didn’t happen

dreamy mesa
drowsy ermine
#

ight

raven hatch
#

I hate rama aspect,any tips to make it more useful? or do I just throw it out the window

rustic vale
#

Top 2 bow aspects

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Placement just depends on wehether you care about speed or heat

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I just saw this but I do have to leave rn

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most common issue is people just not dash striking

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beyond that ttyl

old bluff
#

It's best bow for heat, but kind of sucks for speed

dreamy mesa
#

I'm still confused on how dash striking works
like i thought i was dash striking when I was using arthur aspect, but someone told me if I am combo attacking with dashes it's not a dash strike

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does the dash strike on rama make the primary attack charge faster?

stiff obsidian
#

yes

old bluff
#

First Arthur attack and dashstrike have the same animation

stiff obsidian
#

only the first jab

dreamy mesa
#

so is the strat with rama to maximize damage output on the primary, and just use the special to buff it's damage if needed

mint coral
#

Tag everyone with special > power shot to a group

dreamy mesa
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because if i'm reading shared suffereing correctly, it's 60% damage multaplicative (before even considering multiple targets target)

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which is a lot because outside of criticals, and effects that make an attack hit multiple times, I don't know of any other multiplicative buffs

latent moon
# raven hatch I hate rama aspect,any tips to make it more useful? or do I just throw it out th...

A beefy % attack, Aphro is very good (ideally not common), or you can go for Artemis because crits, any high rarity % attack can do except Poseidon (avoid that one), for the Special you want flat damage, it's not hard to come by, usually not worth forcing tho, Ares Dio Zeus are the main ones, you can go for Demeter and try to get Killing freeze, it can work pretty well, for the Dash there arent many options because most of them are either anti-synergy or just dont do anything, Artemis however is probably the best in slot dash, because Rama relies on dash strikes and getting dash strike damage is just good, Athena is a good one too because deflecting is nice, another important thing for Rama is hammers, ideally you want Triple Shot or Twin Shot for your first hammer, if not offered you can go for Perfect or Point Blank, and for the second hammer you usually want Perfect or Point Blank (assuming Triple or Twin first) but the order can be the other way here, if you get Perfect Shot as first hammer then it's fine too, hammers to avoid are Sniper shot (blocks Twins shot) and also doesnt do anything, and Repulse shot, Explosive is a bit of an odd one, it's nice in some scenarios but hard to play, Chain shot is okay, wont do much in bosses. Rama is difficult and needs practice but it's really good when it comes to heat especially, it's a good idea to watch vods of people who are good at it and try to implement their movement and decision making in your runs

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Thanks MiKE

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Also just always dash strike

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Charges the bow faster

raven hatch
twin thistle
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Or play special rama ron

stiff obsidian
#

or dont play rama

raven hatch
# stiff obsidian or dont play rama

yes the thing is I want to atleast beat hades once with every aspect so far Im still lacking on every zag aspect(fist excluded),the chaos and beowulf aspect and the rama and lucifer aspect

rustic vale
#

If you miss time it you’ll just do a standing strike and you can carry the standing strike combo through dashing

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but for every weapon, the dash strike typically does =< the standing strike damage while coming out way faster

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the coming out way faster really makes it though

#

Standard bow and Rama feel borderline unplayably slow without dash striking

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For sword, the mobility from dash striking and the damage per second is better than standing striking, and it has double edge to >double it’s dash strike damage and just really push dash striking farther

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Shield dash striking comes out faster so you can get into a bullrush faster

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fists is pretty easy to see what goes on

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And rail fires the next bullet sooner

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they’re all damage boosts, but tbh at least 50% of the potency comes from the movement you have with it

jagged hamlet
#

All the hidden aspects seem to revolve around mastery of dashing. Except Gilgamesh bleh

tulip hound
#

Why does the bone hydra sound like a snake?

jagged hamlet
#

Hydra = snek

tulip hound
#

Didn’t know that

jagged hamlet
#

Hail Hydra

rustic vale
tulip hound
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A snake

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I’m not that smart tbh

raven hatch
#

hydra = snake with 7 heads

rustic vale
#

Hydra’s are typically depicted as quadripedal lizards with snake heads, and any time you chop off a head, 2 regrow in it’s place

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Lernie’s just built different

brisk trail
#

the fishing minigame is minotaurcrap

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its so hard for no reason

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Amma mod the game just to fix it

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10/10 otherwise tho

raven hatch
rustic vale
#

Whether that was how many it was born with or just how many it had attained by the time Hercules got to it

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dubious

raven hatch
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natural I guess

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if we start from 1 we need to cut 5 heads in order to reach 7

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and I cant imagine anyone succeeding without understanding the problem or trying anything else

rustic vale
#

The hydra had to be

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Enough of a menace beforehand for the king to know about and send Heracles against him

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so like you’d imagine it wouldn’t be it’s first combat

raven hatch
#

probably

rustic vale
#

I say “the King” because I cannot remember half brothers name for the life of me

raven hatch
#

I dont even remember most of the demi god so imagine remembering king's name now

rustic vale
#

You win some you lose some

brisk trail
rustic vale
#

You can’t make the fishing minigame equally challenginf for everyone-

brisk trail
#

this isnt stardew valley

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give me the fish dammit

rustic vale
#

It’s certainly harder if you don’t know the like

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4 mechanics

fervent radish
#

it's predictable once you learn the pattern

rustic vale
#

that are at play

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but once you have that down it’s pretty consistent

brisk trail
#

Am bad at those games

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but nexus has fishing mods to make it 1 button to give u a fish

rustic vale
#

Like it’s really just
0-0.34s = perfect catch
0.34-0.67s = catch
Otherwise: nope

The fish can only fake you out 3 times at max, so if you get through 3 the next one is always the fish

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The actual fish will always come quicker than a fake bob iirc

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actual fish is like 0.5-1.5s from the last bomb? (Heavy on the iirc )
and fake bobs are from 1.5 to 3 or 4 seconds

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Heavy on the iirc

brisk trail
raven hatch
#

great now we get to play a -1sec timed minigame in an already stressfull game

rustic vale
#

It’s

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tbh

raven hatch
#

do not "its actually easy guys" us pls...

rustic vale
#

even for people not knowwing the mechanics I know quite a few people who got consistent with it

brisk trail
#

A play stardew valley with cheats cuz the minigames are too hard

rustic vale
#

including myself

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prior to learning those mechanics

brisk trail
#

A have like 200 hrs in hades A just suck at the stardew minigame

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Hades as a boss tho is piss easy

rustic vale
brisk trail
#

the disparity of difficulty between fishing and battling ones father is amd

rustic vale
#

anyways the best fishing advice I can give to anyone who doesn’t care for the deeper mechanics is that your ears are faster than your eyes

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for most people

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use the ding as a guide rather than the bob

raven hatch
#

Istg primordial chaos song could be mixed to any horror game and fit in

brisk trail
#

yes

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orrrrr

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a space game

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is chaos a real god cuz if so A might become a hellenist

rustic vale
#

Like the rest of those mechanics you can learn don’t really matter if you just can’t make the catch and the best way to set yourself up for success on the catch is to react fastest, so your faster ears should help a bit

brisk trail
#

Chaos (Zirayor Khaos) was the first of the Protogenoi (primeval gods) and ziray precedes the Universe. It was followed in quick succession by Protogenus, Gaia (Earth), Tartarus (the Underworld) and Eros (Love the life-bringer). Khaos was the lower atmosphere which surrounded the earth - invisible air and gloomy mist.

brisk trail
rustic vale
#

It’s been a while since I seen the word Protogenoi

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brings me back to my greek mythology books I had as a child

brisk trail
#

nice

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Am not a pagan pagan but A stand with insular celtic paganism for personal reasons

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did always have intrigue towards the greco pantheon

rustic vale
#

I’m a christian myself I was just always fascinated by the stories

brisk trail
#

A have tried to aphrodite one time in high school and A will leave it at that(didnt work sadly)

latent moon
fervent radish
#

Less nerve distance I think

obsidian drum
#

Real question: How tall is Zagreus supposed to be?

jagged hamlet
#

0.1

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Comparing to normal human shades, probably in the mid 5s of feet?

obsidian drum
#

and how that be in cm?

jagged hamlet
#

168 or so

obsidian drum
#

NGL I always thought he was 181

jagged hamlet
#

Maybe Achilles is 181

latent moon
#

achilles is 185 bc of 185in's run

junior lion
#

dude how long does it take to get zeus favor

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and dionysus

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and ares

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and artemis

#

this game just wants me to suffer bro

jagged hamlet
#

Is a bit random. The first and third should resolve as you play the game and talk to everybody. The second should also resolve as you game and kill lots of mobs

junior lion
#

ive done every prerequisite several times over i dont get it

#

i gave them 6 nectar like a week ago

still sparrow
#

am i missing something or are zeus' boons kinda eh

#

the only weapon i consider taking zeus for is the exagryph

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assuming i'm not using the empowered reload aspect

latent moon
#

his call is good

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his attack is good on fists

#

his special is good on zeus shield

#

his attack is also good on flurry jab spear

#

but also like

#

his main damage source is really static discharge

#

so that might be why he feels underwhelming if you dont have that

dreamy mesa
#

His cast is useful for killing skulls, mini chariots, rats

still sparrow
stiff obsidian
#

no

dreamy mesa
#

With the jolted upgrade it also helps put some damage on enemies while enabling privileged status

stiff obsidian
#

not really

#

ideally you dont want privileged status

#

also jolt doesnt get the priv stat buff when it goes off

dreamy mesa
#

Heh, that's true

still sparrow
stiff obsidian
#

youre better off with family favorites

dreamy mesa
#

Either way jolted is nice

#

Zeus has a lot of ways to apply it so it can be up for a lot of the fight against a boss, and they attack a lot

#

But yeah, usually it only goes on attack of specials that rapid fire

#

The Zeus shield is the best beyblade game

narrow loom
#

do god keepsakes impact anything besides the boon's first appearance

#

does it increase the chances for that location generally even after finding one

dreamy mesa
#

Do you mean keepsakes?

stiff obsidian
#

do you mean keepsake

narrow loom
#

meant the keepsakes

stiff obsidian
#

doesnt make that god more likely to appear directly, but since that god will be forced into your god pool you will naturally find them more often than other gods

rancid wing
#

Helllo guys, a quick question, how do i fully unlock aphrodite's and dusa's favor, you know the tiny face portrait on the keepsake

#

I have done everything and completely maxed the hearts, even the extra flirt hearts with dusa.

#

still i am struggling

mint coral
#

Just keep doing runs and it'll happen

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Aphro requires dusa to be maxed so just patience

rancid wing
rancid wing
mint coral
#

👍

rustic vale
restive harness
#

Hey y’all

#

What are the best weapons in general and best for heat?

dreamy mesa
#

what heat are you talking?

#

and are you looking for a weaopn to give you an easy fun run, one to get a best time with? etc

mint coral
#

Up to like 40~ heat every weapon has an ez time clearing tbh

stiff obsidian
#

past 32 you will be able to make out differences in difficulty between aspects imo

mint coral
#

Yeah I exaggerated, but still most stuff won't struggle to hell and back

restive harness
restive harness
mint coral
#

Beowulf then

#

But at 32 heat you can do it with whatever you want

restive harness
#

Which do you think is the best bow aspect?

mint coral
#

For heat is rama

#

For speed is hera, zag bow is nice

#

And chiron exists

dreamy mesa
#

players and weapons sheet shows how high heat has been obtained with some weapons

#

gives a sense of what is best

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and like, there's linked videos if you get stuck and need inspiration

mint coral
rustic vale
stiff obsidian
#

eris and hestia got to be the best for heat and speed tho they are so easy to use

#

or am i just biased

fervent radish
#

Yeah I mean eris has a really low time and has beaten 64

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Hestia has comparably low time and has beaten 60/62 hypermodded

uncut dirge
#

How many known 64 heat victories are there?

#

Also what does modded or hypermodded or whatnot mean here?

dreamy mesa
#

theres a mod to make you get an epic boon of your choice in the first room of your run

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because you can get it by savescumming anyways, so it just saves time

mint coral
dreamy mesa
#

some other save file management stuff, i think to reduce lag

mint coral
#

Modded is the speedrun modpack which is stuff like styx always has 2 sack/first hammer set/etc

#

Hyper modded is that but on steroids

#

So it guarantees good hermes/2nd hammer/etc

uncut dirge
dreamy mesa
twin thistle
#

Yeah, also they just do less damage and rely more heavily on dashes

spring lotus
mint coral
#

The rest are modded/unseeded

spring lotus
#

Gy bros...

dreamy mesa
#

is there any point in the unmodded category?

#

isn't it just the modded category but resetting until you get the starting boon you want?

twin thistle
fervent radish
#

Also hammer and sack

mint coral
#

Regarding the zeus clear
Angel just did some attempts at it cuz someone told her to try for funnies iirc

#

And well, it happened lmfao

rustic vale
rustic vale
#

I’ve never heard of modded Hades for anything but computers and switch

dreamy mesa
#

are enemies at full health but less than full armor considered undamaged (fiery presence)?

mint coral
#

Nope

dreamy mesa
#

lame

latent moon
#

But it's like

#

Only fair to have the distinction

#

Bc not everyone can mod

#

There's yet to be a console 64 lmao

#

Mainly bc they can't practice 64 heat on mods or save states

raw herald
#

Also imo it’s a lot more satisfying getting an unmodded pb than a modded pb

old bluff
#

The main difference is modded removes a bunch of reset points to allow more runs to get off the ground

fervent radish
#

unless playad or vaxon just decide to get a console

latent moon
#

True

#

But also getting a console would require 64 unmodded

#

which is a bit cringe

fervent radish
#

you could practice on modded pc controller and then actually reset unm on console

#

but yeah still cringe

rustic vale
#

Idk man

#

64 heat modded on switch

#

is probably best bet

#

possibly the only bet?

#

I think my brother has stuff to play non-ds games on his ds, I wonder if I could get Hades on that

mint coral
#

You trust a ds to run hades

rustic vale
rustic vale
dreamy mesa
mint coral
#

I think the new 3ds has an extra stick?

#

Is super tiny tho

#

Like those weird ones in laptops

rustic vale
#

they don’t

dreamy mesa
#

stylus is basically a mouse if you think about it

rustic vale
#

I have onep

#

Unless they made a new model since I got mine

#

But I’m checking google images and see 0 witb the second stick

dreamy mesa
#

also, it might be a 'stick' that just has 8 directions

mint coral
#

Oh I'm thinking of the C stick

rustic vale
#

Oh that bouldy

latent moon
rustic vale
#

I remember that

#

My 3ds had it but no games ever used it

#

and

#

I think I’d die if I had to use it

#

It’s on top of the buttons

#

also speaking of like

#

bad controller design

#

I got a logitech controller for use with my computer and both joysticks are on the bottom

#

ew

#

I hear that’s how playstation does it too but it’s just an abomination

#

I’m getting good at dying in risk of rain 2 with it

mint coral
#

Is not thaaaat bad

rustic vale
mint coral
#

Tho the only one I used like that is a really cheap knockoff lmao

#

Now I use an 8bitdo

rustic vale
#

Ok just don’t imbed properly ig

rustic vale
#

and saw those

#

How does it feel?

mint coral
#

I'm using the pro 2

Feels nice but the dpad is kinda bleh

#

But like, the only dpad I like is the joycons one lmfao

#

I got the wired version (3m) and is comfy

rustic vale
#

Joycons are so blessed

dreamy mesa
#

my joycons drift

#

but yeah it is the laziest controller to use

rustic vale
#

Could always send them into nintendo for them to get fixed

#

It does take a while though

dreamy mesa
#

i think we got our switch in 2017

#

not sure what the warranty is on those things

mint coral
#

I think the joycons can always be repaired/sent to nintendo?

dreamy mesa
#

dope, we should try that

rustic vale
#

99% warranty doesn’t matter

#

It’s not the fastest repair in the world so

dreamy mesa
#

i mean we basically aren't using them anyways

#

it only comes up when a lot of people want to play mario kart and we remember we can use them as a 3rd controller

mint coral
#

The joycons dpad is the only controller that I've been able to use comfortably for celeste lmao

rustic vale
#

Just do a quick google or two to figure out the finer details of it

mint coral
#

But I moved to pc so it doesn't matter nowadays

dreamy mesa
#

playing sm64 i'm usually leaning forward and gritting my teeth so i never really cared about the controller

rustic vale
#

I’d like to be able to use my switch controllers for pc but 😔

dreamy mesa
#

yeah, nintendo has made the best controllers for a long time

mint coral
rustic vale
#

idk

#

I’ve never heard of people using joycons with a pc

#

I suppose it’s possible

mint coral
#

It is yeah

rustic vale
#

but I think I’d have to get other software for it to be supported on windsows

mint coral
#

I never tried it myself cuz my pc doesn't have Bluetooth lol

#

But homebrew lets me use the switch as a controller too

rustic vale
#

I know my youngest brother was super fed up of trying to get the pro controller configured on his pc and just gave up

mint coral
#

But yeah the 8bitdo works for both pc and switch if you care about that

#

It also has back buttons but they aren't, like independent buttons?

#

You map them to work like triggers or smth else

rustic vale
#

Oh

dreamy mesa
#

i love my switch pro controllers

#

never tried them on pc though

#

i think my bluetooth is a usb dongle anyways

#

so would probably add a few ms lag

mint coral
jolly moss
#

What are the best railgun and bow aspects? I’ve got limited blood so can’t really experiment 😦

#

Railgun is the only weapon with which I’ve reached the last boss a few times

mint coral
#

Eris-hestia are similar in strength vut hestia requires mire blood to work

jolly moss
#

Eris seems a bit janky on controller

mint coral
#

For bow zag is cheap to max and good, hera works at lower lvls (just want to grab quick reload a lot more often)

jolly moss
#

What about bow?

mint coral
#

Just press special in the general direction of an enemy and dash into where is gonna land

#

Sometimes it can fail if map geometry is being funny but eh

jolly moss
#

Which of those are better against bosses?

#

I only die to either the 3rd or last boss.

mint coral
#

Eris or zag bow I'd say assuming you can't max them out

#

Hestia is plenty safe, even if the dps can be a bit low

jolly moss
#

Thanks for the help! I’ll try Eris out.

#

By the way the fist aspect of Demeter looks good for bosses

#

It it considered good?

mint coral
#

They are the best fists

#

But the best build doesn't really use any of the aspects stuff

#

Is just the best at dealing dmg before the build is online

jolly moss
#

I’m not a fan of the crit style gameplay due to inconsistency of zag now, so deciding between Eris and Demeter

jolly moss
mint coral
#

Also dem at low lvl doesn't do much

jolly moss
#

So I’ll go with Eris then, thanks!

mellow comet
#

Hello guys! I just have a small question. My friend recently bought the game on Steam and had the pact of punishment available from the first run on a brand new save. I only unlocked it after beating the last boss for the first time and now I'm quite confused. He hasn't modified the game or anything. I tried googling around but couldn't find anything about anyone else having the pact of punishment unlocked from the start.

rustic vale
#

Since hellmode automatically forces 5 conditions on you

#

So he likely cannot turn off Hard Labour 1/ Lasting Consequences 1/ Jury Summons 1/ calesthenics program 1/ personal liability (the last one is a hellmode exclusive

latent moon
#

I'm pretty sure you can't add any extra anyways until you clear

#

But not completely sure on that

lavish sorrel
#

FF to 32 heat is done on hell mode for this reason

rustic vale
#

To get a funnier first clear victory screen

latent moon
#

Oh what lmao

#

That's hilarious

mellow comet
lavish sorrel
rustic vale
fervent radish
#

That’s just zagbow cotw

rustic vale
#

Ohh

#

Category of the week

simple inlet
#

I've always seen it but never acknowledged it, why does Charon have a bunch of money just laying there

#

I've been wondering for a while

latent moon
#

bc why not

#

for funsies

simple inlet
old bluff
#

L build, it's Chiron

stiff obsidian
#

i imagined 'chiron alert, chiron alert' going through the brains of ppl who see this the moment i saw this

simple inlet
#

whats so wrong with chiron

stiff obsidian
#

nothing its fine

simple inlet
#

I personally like actually being able to hit my special without being critically in danger

old bluff
simple inlet
#

thats really it

#

also is it safe to go into Hades's Bed Chambers?

#

I am scared that I'll get Achilles in trouble

dreamy mesa
rustic vale
#

I think he puts the bag out specifically so that zag can pick it up and give him something to do

rustic vale
#

nice level hangover with low tolerance is always sweet

dreamy mesa
simple inlet
#

Report zag?

rustic vale
simple inlet
#

I ma rob him the second I can

feral verge
#

Typically, what is the best weapon to use when starting out? Probably just preference, but thought I'd ask

#

Wrong channel, my b

rustic vale
#

I’d recommend

simple inlet
rustic vale
#

Spear and rail > shield and bow > sword and fists

#

For your first clear

simple inlet
#

fists was my first clear

rustic vale
#

yes, and

old bluff
#

Sadly, Chiron was my first clear

rustic vale
#

that doesn’t discount your first clear

#

But

#

That’s not what their question was

old bluff
#

I think rail is best by far no?

feral verge
#

I've been using bow, and with the explosion shot it carried me to the second boss. Lost to it though 😦

simple inlet
feral verge
#

I haven't unlocked fists, rail, or spear yet

rustic vale
#

I’m basing it off what I’ve seen here in about 3 or 4 years

feral verge
simple inlet
#

what are your perferences in weapons generally

rustic vale
#

and what I’ve heard from Nyaanyaa and whoever else

#

Bow and then everything else

feral verge
rustic vale
#

I like them all pretty decently but I love bow the best

#

They’re all pretty well balanced for regular play

latent moon
#

for first clear it's really just whatever you want

simple inlet
latent moon
#

the main thing you're learning at that point is really enemy patterns and mechanics

#

you dont want to be a slave to the meta too early in the game

rustic vale
#

Eh bow and rail are your real ranged melee

feral verge
rustic vale
#

They’re ranged weapons that play in melee

#

Honestly spear is the true ranged weapon of Hades

latent moon
#

idk about that tbh lmao

feral verge
#

It's the armored foes that are giving me a hard time rn

latent moon
#

achilles go unga bunga

old bluff
#

I mean, Elauncher is a thing

rustic vale
feral verge
rustic vale
#

and achilles has casts so

old bluff
#

Zag spear goes flurry

rustic vale
#

zag spear can go flurry but it also has elauncher

#

as an opton

old bluff
latent moon
#

hades spear has serrated :)

#

guan yu also has quick spin

rustic vale
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also flurry always has extending jab and as an option and even with flurry the range on the spear attack is insane

latent moon
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guan yu is like melee range

stiff obsidian
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spear is so nice

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it has 2 aspects tho

latent moon
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true

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hades and zag

stiff obsidian
latent moon
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:)

rustic vale
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Guan-yu has serrated point too

latent moon
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yeah but that's cringe

rustic vale
latent moon
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actually does it

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oh i guess guan yu can have serrated

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well no one wants to do that lmao

old bluff
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Serrated Achilles

latent moon
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world splitter zag sword

old bluff
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Athena cast pos sword

feral verge
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going back to bosses, the Meg fight was really fun I thought. So was the Hydra, but I died to it...

jagged hamlet
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Squirrel high five

latent moon
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glad i can help

feral verge
feral verge
dreamy mesa
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