h1-discussion

[latent moon]

or skip it for better rarity later

[rich fjord]

So even doom which i think does care abt rarity i still roll with common if i get it

[latent moon]

all doom builds would start with it for the first boon

and if you get common well

die and reset the run lmao

common doom sucks ass

[next ledge]

Get coomon boon, get mad and then get rare crop in the very next room

[latent moon]

on the other hand if i got common doom i wouldn't care what's on the next door lmao

that's just a reset

[brisk trail]

why does hades not have Greek as a language option even tho it's about greek mythology (this is just a joke lol)

[hearty ermine]

yay

i just 32 heat hades

[gusty cave]

what is zues shield even more brain dead than chiron

[reef zodiac]

No it’s one of the most difficult aspects in the game

[gusty cave]

what

it's easy for me lol idk why

[reef zodiac]

well the aspect is very strong

but it also has an extremely high skill ceiling

[gusty cave]

it can also be used as a dog

call back shield and it kills otw

[reef zodiac]

Sure but that’s really slow

[gusty cave]

that's the point

i want it to be slow

[reef zodiac]

If you really want easy gameplay try Hestia

[gusty cave]

alright i'l give it a go

[gusty cave]

sorry for ping but what boons should i get?

[reef zodiac]

Aphrodite attack, Aphrodite or Artemis special, Artemis or Athena dash

Any % boon on special is solid though

[gusty cave]

the duo boons i'm aiming?

[reef zodiac]

If you want to go for duos you could look for smoldering air

[gusty cave]

also since aphro attack i'm going with apho item first right

wait can deadly reversal work

i use deflect attack

[rustic vale]

Yep

[rustic vale]

I wouldn’t recommend it on hestia

It’s a very small hitbox to deflect with

and you aren’t firing super often like other things you might put deflect on

[queen monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/garp-one-piece-monkey-d-luffy-luffy-monkey-d-garp-gif-25814405

oh boy fist of love going hard rn

[pliant meadow]

Does jolted damage benefit from Priviledged Status?

[reef zodiac]

Yes but you probably need two other statuses since the enemy won’t have jolted when jolted triggers

But I could be wrong

[fervent radish]

You’re right according to cgull

[queen monolith]

omg how can someone roll 5-6 athena blessings and not get the sprint

this is madness

[fervent radish]

If you take core boons, dash will be more likely to show up

In subsequent screens

Bc the game wants to fill your cores as early as possible

[queen monolith]

i have taken core boons. fist of love first but very late i took athena special because i was out of options Q__Q

[fervent radish]

Ah

Rng unfortunately

[queen monolith]

but i think i one time dismissed the sprint becaue she got me 10% global immunity Q__Q

now i pay the price

[fervent radish]

Damage reduction isn’t that good

Divine dash is so much better

[tepid plover]

https://hades.fandom.com/wiki/Athena#Favor

[fervent radish]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/v2m8pi/what_is_athenas_favor/

[queen monolith]

i know that divine dash is meta but the quality doesnt matter so when i get a 10% dr i take it and wait for another dash later which never came Q__Q

[fervent radish]

Rough

[tepid plover]

play the game basically

thats as clear as it gets

the first comment on that reddit thread tells you exactly how to do it, you sure you read it?

[rustic vale]

10% dr is like… just so valuable

[queen monolith]

i mean it starts at that but purple also get good scaling? so in the end i can end up at 20-30?

which is great

[rustic vale]

Bronze skin (athena’s dr boon) is literally 10% at purple

it goes 5% -> 7.5% -> 10% -> 12.5% from rarity

If you want good damage reduction take aphrodite and/or grab hypersprint from Hermes (which you’d be taking for damage anyways)

[queen monolith]

yes but when you apple it it scales up

[rustic vale]

Pomming bronze skin is insane

[queen monolith]

leave me alone :<

[rustic vale]

weaken and hyper sprint are both 30% out the gates

[tepid plover]

lmfao

[rustic vale]

Your poms work so much better by actually being used to boost your damage since higher damage is damage reduction

[queen monolith]

you cant always choose which boons to buff

[rustic vale]

You take less hits if everything is dead and the gains you get from pomming damage boons-

Are you running approval process 2?

Otherwise you have 1 or 2 other choices and there are very few times where your other option isn’t better

[queen monolith]

i dont remember i also dont care i just cried about not getting dash and yall storming in here telling me bronze skin sucks lul

gaming communities in a nutshell

[rustic vale]

I

[queen monolith]

I

[rustic vale]

don’t know how else to put across to you that the dr is minimal, there are multiple other sources of dr that are extremely more potent with little/no investment, and the amount of investment you have to put into bronze skin to make it notable is enough to boost your damage by significantly more than the hp pomming it will save you

[queen monolith]

no i get that its just sometimes when every other options sucks

i just take it because its a straight buff

with no conditions

and i like that

just like i love the ares damage buff

because its universal and no matter how my build turns out to be it will be beneficial

i like simple buffs

that dont make me DO something to get the benefit

[rustic vale]

~ares doesn’t have a universal dmg buff

[queen monolith]

it has "your attack, special and throw deal more damage"

thats pretty much universal for me

[rustic vale]

~ig

The thing is it doesn’t apply to any flat damage sources you have which is

So many things

[fervent radish]

Well, you cried about not getting dash because you took bronze skin. So the solution is to not take bronze skin bc it kinda sucks

[fervent radish]

Unless blinding flash, every other option from Athena probably has something valuable

[queen monolith]

that was about the apple

[fervent radish]

What were the other options to Pom?

[queen monolith]

i dont remember lol

and again it doesnt matter

[fervent radish]

All g

[queen monolith]

i killed theseus in his silly battle wagon. and i talked to poseidon. but nothing happened? O.o

just keep talking to him?

[queen monolith]

but do i have to talk to poseudon in the exact same run as i killed him with em3? because that sounds hard to achieve

[rustic vale]

No

[queen monolith]

ok then ill just wait

[steep star]

ughhhh I just needed Ares legendary to finish my prophecy
I had +rarity from the well of charon and enough dice to try three rerolls, didn't get it

[pliant meadow]

do you have the boon required? need +rift time/width

[steep star]

yeah I had a maxed out rift build

both of those

[runic jungle]

What's an easy 8 heat to do?

[queen monolith]

ahahaha theseus breaking the 4th wall saying i keep hiding behind those pillars XDDDDDD

[steep star]

Extreme Measures 2
Tight Deadline 2

[grand mirage]

is it possible to still get the waking phrase from asterius with em3?

[rustic vale]

Yeah

[pliant meadow]

not suggested tho

[rustic vale]

Em3 introduces new dialogue I believe so

[pliant meadow]

em3 got lots of new dialogue took priority

[grand mirage]

i was going to say this too but yeah these are the easiest picks
TD2, free heat and makes your playstyle play around finishing much faster
EM2, because EM2 (just turn it down to EM1 if you find Lernie too hard, but just building up experience from playing it just makes it more worth
just add more 1 heat (Hard Labor or Conv Fee)

[rustic vale]

It would dilute your odds

[mint coral]

You need 2 more

[grand mirage]

ye i forgor

[rustic vale]

I would recommend just learning extreme measures 2 atp because it won’t drag down your whole run

You just need to be more careful for the Hydra fight

I mean if you really wanted to just use forced overtime 2 with tight deadline 2 or extreme measures 2 and learn the game with 40% faster enemies earlier on~~

It’s definitely not the easiest 8 heat but you start learning the faster game way earlier

[grand mirage]

isnt that 12 heat? iirc FO1 is already 3 heat, FO2 makes it 12

[rustic vale]

Is fo2 not 5 heat total?

[latent moon]

it's 6

[twin thistle]

6 innit

[rustic vale]

Even if it’s 6

I said extreme measures 2 or tight deadline 2, not “and”

[twin thistle]

Td2 is 3

[rustic vale]

So it’d just be 9 not 8

[grand mirage]

yeah TD2 EM2 FO1

but if my guy really just wants to learn the curve he can just turn off td

[rustic vale]

What I had meant was, Fo2, Em2 or Fo2 Td2, either ends up being 1 over but it’s an early adjustment ~

it’s not necessary mayhaps and definitely not your easiest 8(9) heat pact

[steep star]

I did FO1 just to complete a prophecy, I couldn't stand it

[rustic vale]

It definitely takes some time to adjust to

it’s never necessary to run but it does happen to have a few benefits for speed purposes

Actually pretty much everything it does is a benefit for speed

[cunning pecan]

Dunno if this is the right channel but I can't get meg to spawn in zagreus's room, is it really just rng after every run or are there other requirements? She's only spawning in the lounge for the occasional oneliner for tens of runs now.

[grand mirage]

after a few runs maybe

i also had waited for a long time before she came into the room

[jagged hamlet]

It took me until my 130th run!

[grand mirage]

that feels like pain, wont even get to use her companion in those 130 runs

[cunning pecan]

I'm on my 80th run so only 50 more to go 😭

[jagged hamlet]

Over halfway

[cunning pecan]

She also sometimes just doesn't spawn in the house (even after beating her during a run) so I get hopeful only to suffer again 😀

[grand mirage]

i feel so different, i guess this current save of mine's just that

she came into my room around ~30 runs, second time around ~60 runs

i focused giving them nectars

[cunning pecan]

I'm past both of these already fml my rng is through the floor

Like I've maxed out several other social links in the time that I've been waiting for the first bedroom spawn

[grand mirage]

well you're prob doing fine than me

i still have to grind lots

[jagged hamlet]

I focused nectars too!

[grand mirage]

[queen monolith]

peseidon doesnt aknowledge my victory. that feels bricked

[runic jungle]

Do I have a massive skill issue or is the aspect of guan yu the most garbo aspect

[mint coral]

Charged skewer makes it a lot better

[runic jungle]

Okay I just so happened to get a hammer with charged skewer and goodness me it's like night and day lol.
I just need that one hermes boon that makes the special faster and I might be able to manage with this thing

[twin thistle]

Its done 64

[twilit shore]

Is charged skewer or chain skewer better for the spear

[twin thistle]

Charged skewer is better but you also need explosive launcher

Chain can be decent with zeus special with jolted or with doom special ig and not betting on second hammer or with flurry second

[rustic vale]

The issue with any spear hammer that isn’t explosive launcher is being a sitting duck till your spear is back

Charged and breaching work fine because you can combo then onto explosive launcher if you get it but chain cannot (you can still try out chain though)

[twilit shore]

I have jolted and Zeus is up next

I’ll grab charged

[rustic vale]

~ I’d be very cautious about special use with just charged by itself

[twilit shore]

I hate Alecto

so much

[jagged hamlet]

Alecto's silly

[tepid plover]

Skill issue

[obsidian drum]

I don't know why I can't post the image, but I summoned Dusa against Hades than summoning Zeus

She was like "OH NO IS YOUR FATHER!"

[tepid plover]

Nothing to do with zeus, she just knows you summoned her against your father

[obsidian drum]

I know, I just pressed the wrong button to summon

[tepid plover]

Lol

[obsidian drum]

"Remember me to give her some ambrosia the next time"

[queen monolith]

i killed theseus in EM3 a second time. poseidon still doesnt care.

[rain tundra]

This channel (and category) is for discussing the first Hades game. Please go to #h2-discussion to talk about Hades II.

[tepid plover]

Welcome to the hades dialogue roulette

[queen monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-sad-cat-cat-depressed-depression-gif-13240550249247957481

well on the other side artemis calls me her friend ❤️

[tepid plover]

[twilit shore]

I BEAT ELYSIUM

I HATE THESEUS

oops

I don’t wanna fight Cerberus

Please tell me I don’t have to fight the puppy

[twin thistle]

You dont

[tepid plover]

||yet||

[twilit shore]

W

Time to lock in to escape

Gotta beat hades now

I got hades to 1/4 and died

What do I do with nectar

[runic jungle]

Finally beat the game with guan yu lfg
Artemis came in Clutch tho I'm ngl.
I will never use this thing again lol

[twilit shore]

Like the

Not nectar

I meant ambrosia

[runic jungle]

You give it to characters like Dusa than or meg after you get past the locked heart

And skelly

[twilit shore]

how do I get based the lock heart

I found a steam guide on it

I want get skelly

#1 Skeleton

I unlocked Demeter

[obsidian drum]

you'll fight him with pampers

[fading patrol]

I have a quick question about cross saves

[jagged hamlet]

You sure do, buddy. You sure do.

Or if you're asking for permission to ask for whatever reason, I'm going to facetiously reply "Permission denied"

[fading patrol]

i just need help setting it up

[jagged hamlet]

Searching "hades cross save" on Google turned up a promising article in the very first result

[fading patrol]

i tried that

idk where i went wrong so that is why i am asking

[plain junco]

what’s a cross save

[jagged hamlet]

Not to be snippy, but are you going to provide anything to work off of? You're kinda just making very general statements

Like what went wrong?

Any error messages?

[fading patrol]

i linked my steam account on my switch and it said that is was synched. i played a chamber and it said it saved to the cloud. when i went on my pc version no new save file appeared

[tepid plover]

It's using your steam save, on your switch

And vice versa

[jagged hamlet]

Have you already consulted this comment and its instructions? #h1-tech-fixes message

[fading patrol]

no sorry

[marble bloom]

Hey all, have a question. Just found out about the guitar tabs for Hades 1 through the Youtube videos Supergiant posted, but the link the the dropbox has been deleted, anyone know where this can be found? Would love to try learning it

[jagged hamlet]

Also, if you followed the IGN article, did you only follow steps 1-4, or did you check the following sentence suggesting you make sure you've enabled Cloud Saves on Steam or Epic?

[fading patrol]

I just got steam so i do not know where i would enable it and i have read through that artical

[manic smelt]

does aspect of Zag on the bow increase both attack and special crit chance? or is it only Attack?

[tepid plover]

Pretty sure is just attack

[jagged hamlet]

The option is in the very first menu that appears when you right-click Hades and select "Properties"

[fading patrol]

its enabled

[manic smelt]

im led to assume its both, cuz it says critical attack chance. but attack is not in bold. which is how hades 1 seems to identify differentiating ATTACK or SPECIAL imo.

but would be great to get some real information. havent played hades 1 in years. just doing a new save file since im done with hades 2 for a bit

[plain junco]

there might be tabs on MuseScore

did you try looking

there’s piano sheet music there for hades so there might be guitar too

[plain junco]

it would probably say critical damage chance like it does normally for boons and stuff

so it’s probably just attack

[manic smelt]

ohhhh good call

[plain junco]

There’s not a lot of good Zagspects unless you’re running a dodge build on Hermes and fists

there might be others too

[latent moon]

it's just attack

it says critical attack, so it's attack lmao

the game doesn't say "special attack" afaik whenever it refers to special

or like any damaging stuff, it'll always say "your attack" or "your special"

unless it's like a global damage boost, then it'll say like "you deal __ more damage" or something

[manic smelt]

ok yeh guess i could just test on the skelly also. was just mid run when i suddenly realized wait is thing only for the attack...

[fading patrol]

I do appreciate your help but it still wont work. thank you though

[latent moon]

dw bow special sucks ass anyways lmao

[fervent radish]

Zagshield and zagbow are good

[plain junco]

charged volley hammer in question

[jagged hamlet]

You're welcome. Try logging into https://store.steampowered.com/account/remotestorage and seeing if anything made it from your Switch. If not, I'd just try syncing from the Switch again

[latent moon]

yeah it still sucks lmao

[manic smelt]

nahhh i just did the charged volley build. felt the most reminiscent to pan daggers (( sort of )). was literally melting bosses stupidely fast. and had good aoe once i got the peirce hammer

[latent moon]

please keep h2 stuff outside of these channels, but also if you wanted something simlar to that just use chiron

[fading patrol]

it said that i had three files. I have tried syncing three times

[manic smelt]

dash behind, unless the aoe volley in their face so everything hits. instant death on everything or giant chunks on bosses

[plain junco]

I six shot hydra w volley plus critical chance chaos and arty boons

[manic smelt]

im allowed to use it as a comparison for a topic lol sheesh..... unless you mean i should of spoiler tagged it

[latent moon]

or that and make it clear it's about h2 stuff

but like it's still something that shouldn't be here lmao a good chunk of players still haven't played it

[latent moon]

i mean sure it's decent boss damage but overall it's still not good over the course of the run

esp in dad fight

[manic smelt]

im playing hades 1 atm... nothing to make clear , besides i just tried this cuz it was the most fun like i had in the other hades release which im shelfing for now until more patches.

[manic smelt]

it was my fastest hades clear lol. but il try the chiron once i max out its aspect. atm il just loose to many arrows for the special

[rustic vale]

the issue with chiron isn't single target damage. it's everything else

[latent moon]

they weren't using chiron they were using charged volley lmao

[plain junco]

I didn’t use Chiron

[latent moon]

which you can't get on chiron as a side note

but also funnily enough the point still stands lmao

was kinda my point but i didn't say it that way idk why

[jagged hamlet]

Not sure what else to try. I guess I'll leave you with the relevant FAQs from Supergiant:
`If cross-saves are failing to sync between your computer and your Switch, try the following steps:

Ensure that your Switch's system time and date match the current time and date.
Make sure that you have a stable internet connection.
Make sure that cloud saves are enabled on your computer:

• For Steam, right-click on Hades and select 'Properties' > General > Steam Cloud, then select the box that says 'Keep games saves in the Steam Cloud for Hades'.
• For the Epic Games Store, go to Settings > Preferences and select the box that says 'Enable Cloud Saves'. Make sure you've also checked toggled on 'Epic Services' in the game's Settings menu.
  Restart your Nintendo Switch.`

[rustic vale]

same issue

[plain junco]

okay

[rustic vale]

you have the same issue as chiron with the special speed,

the aoe isn't the greatest, but it is a step up from chiron

[latent moon]

charged volley being better than chiron is deeply unfortunate

[manic smelt]

took 2 seconds of googling haelian or another youtuber. but yes charged volley can absolutely melt... not sure what your laughing at

https://youtu.be/Cusi47e6s2c?si=1Ez1M_25OoLbarg9&t=1879

is it top tier meta? probs not but melts and is fun

all that matters imo

[fervent radish]

Everything can melt lol

Also haelian says everything is an OP BUILD THAT DOES INFINITY DAMAGE TO HADES

[latent moon]

heart rend, conc volley, 2 chaos specials, and 150% backstab lmao

and also yeah haelian clickbait

[manic smelt]

god yall are just the funnest to have conversation's with aren't ya. 1st its a dumb and your laughing at it being weak. Now ofcourse everything melts? duhh everyone knows that

lol facepalm

[latent moon]

i mean ngl a lot of things when built around can do a lot of damage, it's just that it's not practical

which was my main point

[jagged hamlet]

Everything's viable, but some are more viable than others

[rustic vale]

There’s so much in Hades that can be bonkers, but it’s a level of a) how bonkers, b) how usable, and c) how consistent

and

Charged volley kinda fails at more than one of those when you’re looking at breaking it

[fervent radish]

Relatively weak compared to other builds. Any build can do a large amount of damage.

[jagged hamlet]

Animation lock for daaaaays

[manic smelt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1200855322944876547/1247367752348340274/image.png?ex=665fc53f&is=665e73bf&hm=807784565a0aae5700f4dbb8931c1967d9a1517441ee2ebf5368cd3c9130df65&

[fervent radish]

[rustic vale]

ok but when we’re literally talking about functionality

[fervent radish]

Tbf he’s not

[rustic vale]

~Haelian often isn’t

[fervent radish]

But the build is still on the lower end of melt

[rustic vale]

where’s the stupid achilles clip

[latent moon]

which one

[fervent radish]

All of the Achilles clips are stupid

[rustic vale]

Or any bugowolf clip

[rustic vale]

2 second heroes

[latent moon]

oh got it

[fervent radish]

Eris has like a 3 second heroes

[latent moon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQpCPoHDtQ0

[rustic vale]

achilles came to mind first

[gusty cave]

what blessing for hestia?

[rustic vale]

Do you mean boons? Keepsakes?

[gusty cave]

oh i'm going to attempt hestia gun

[rustic vale]

Ohhhh

[gusty cave]

i'm tempted to use athen atk, special artemis and dash on apho

[rustic vale]

wait

[gusty cave]

cause i see the deadly reversal

[rustic vale]

Swap athena and artemis

you aren’t getting nearly as many deflects off of strike as you are off special

[latent moon]

why aren't we taking aphro attack

is the goal here deadly reversal lmao

[rustic vale]

If they want deadly reversal in the build yeah ig

I mean

If you really want deadly reversal the gameplan is aphro strike, athena special, arte cast

[gusty cave]

oh kk

[rustic vale]

Then you aren’t relying on aphrodite dash to get your weaken off, your benefiting from aphrodites massive +% additive and you’re using athena special to get your crits

[gusty cave]

i am using apho dash atm unlucky with the boons

[rustic vale]

You’ll want to pick up hunters mark so you can

so that you can chain your crits

[gusty cave]

@rustic vale what hammer upgrades should i get

[rustic vale]

Ricochet is a big hammer on hestia because you can almost double your attacking dps in regular rooms

cluster bomb, rocket bomb and triple bomb are all as useful as they are on other rails

(Super useful if you didn’t know)

Aside from that, piercing and explosive fire can technically provide your strike with more aoe potential

Targetting system behind all that

Hazard bomb is also an option, it’s not my favourite but it’s definitely better than a few of the remaining options

[gusty cave]

WHY AM I FIGHTING CHIRON

i thought i can borrow

[latent moon]

"borrow" lmao

[gusty cave]

i died

[jagged hamlet]

Justice has been served

[tepid plover]

Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of my actions

[manic smelt]

why do people say its easier to reset a seed in hades 1 then in 2? I never did much of that at all when i played years ago. Heck years ago the word seed meant nothing to me until i got into randomizers for metroidvania games. seems its the same as i can tell. giving up dosen't reset your seed on the 1st boon / hammer. and quitting obviously is just a save.

• trying this in hades 1 atm

[rustic vale]

Uhhhh

Reseting a seed in Hades is as simple as dying fast

Idk what the problem in h2 is

[manic smelt]

oh so it is just dying. weird people sayd it was faster and you didnt have to just die.

[rustic vale]

You can absolutely easily manipulate your seed in set beneficial circumstances

Uuhhh

I mean swappijg god keepskaes maybev

Sorry for my spelling atm

Idk how things work in hades 2

So I don’t actually know the difference

[manic smelt]

sry dont mean to bring it up / spoiler. i was just told to reset in a seed in hades 1 you didnt have to sit & wait to die. which is tedious with 3 DDs lol. but oh well such is the life of hades haha

[rustic vale]

If there’s something Hades has that Hades 2 doesn’t I wouldn’t know, and anything Hades specifically has aside from rng/mid run seed manipulation is out of m hands

[manic smelt]

oh i dont care about mid run manipulation just want the proper hammer to start of a run with ahha

[rustic vale]

Idk then

There ain’t much you can do aside from dying snd swapping god keepsakes

[manic smelt]

oh no all g you answered. not possible. others just being dumb or i was misinformed

thanks for the info 🙂

[rustic vale]

Since you often aren’t starting with a hammer, you can easily change the seed before you get your first hammer

Since casts hitting the ground, destroying pots and reloading and summoning all push the seed 1 rng value over

You can technically have a better level of control over your first hammer given you don’t get the first hammer in room 1

If that makes sense?

I’ve done it before

[manic smelt]

yeh that makes sense

il try that out in the future good to know thanks!

[rustic vale]

So that’s essentially if you likr your start but not your first hammer, so you don’t have to die but rather give up and shove rng one over

Btw those also work for any room rewards that don’t lock you out of quitting the game

So bouldy boons, eurydice rarity/pom boosts, anvil in styx

[slender spruce]

question!

What if I skip Hephaestus hammer for a chaos portal

will I see the hammer again sometime?

[rustic vale]

You can see it again. It’s not guaranteed, the hammers are never guaranteed, but it’s insanely likely

[slender spruce]

I can only get it twice right? in the 1st and *3rd realms

[jagged hamlet]

Sometimes the second!

[rustic vale]

You can get one any time in and after tartarus, and the 2nd any time in and after elysium,

First area and third area respectively

[latent moon]

ngl i'm pretty sure in both games you just die to reset the seed idk lmao

[slender spruce]

ok thanks

[latent moon]

my guess would be like

it's easier to change the mirror in the other game?

and less starting hp?

so you can mirror reset faster but like that's not that much of a time save i dont think

[slender spruce]

Is it even worth to enter chaos, the choices are: Chaos, Hammer, and Athena boon

[rustic vale]

What aspect are you using

[slender spruce]

another question, does chaos counts as encounter

[rustic vale]

odds are the answer is yes but I’ll want t

[rustic vale]

Nope

[slender spruce]

||Exca||

[rustic vale]

Encounters are fights

[latent moon]

is this first hammer

[rustic vale]

You needn’t spoiler anything here

[slender spruce]

2nd ham

[rustic vale]

Take the chaos

[latent moon]

what was the first hammer

[slender spruce]

wider AoE

[latent moon]

i'd prob take chaos anyways yeah

[twin thistle]

Chaos aint an encounter but it wont make the biome longer unless you get it right before endshop

[latent moon]

just get hammer again

[rustic vale]

chaos is pretty much always valuable, there are some nicher cases where you’d rsthe rthe hammee

[latent moon]

it's ely you'll probably get it back soon

assuming dark foresight

[rustic vale]

it’s a free room and has massive value on your big base damage option

[slender spruce]

2dice for rerolls

ok chaos it is

[rustic vale]

what do you have from hermes

[slender spruce]

atk speed, bonus dodge/movespeed after call

[rustic vale]

The question was under the assumption you’re using the-

was under the assumption you’re using fated persuasion

(Boon & co. rerolls rather than room rerolls)

anyways it doesn’t matter because you have your two hermes so you can’t use the rerolls on him anyways

[slender spruce]

ok I got the hammer again right after chaos lmao

[slender spruce]

what does this mean

only 2 Hermes?

[rustic vale]

You can only get two hermes boons before styx

He’s like hammers but wjthout being restricted to where you can get your second

And being able to reroll your options for his boons is super valuable thanks to a few select boons existing

[slender spruce]

didn't know that

thanks

[rustic vale]

He also doesn’t count towards your olympian god “pool” for the same reasons

Where

You may not know this either

But when you pick up a god they get added to your “pool” which naturally caps at 4 gods

And once you hit the cap the game stops showing you other gods boons

[manic smelt]

but u can keepsake force another to be shown correct?

[rustic vale]

Very nice for build consistency, can easily be skirted by keepsakes and 2 other methods

2 other methods being walking into a shop with 3 gods in pool, buying a 4th god and havjng a 5th god as next room reward

And walking into styx with <4 gods(esses) total

[latent moon]

godsesses

[slender spruce]

what are you go-to keepsakes?

I've always used Persephone's the entire game

[rustic vale]

You’ll be better off with god keepsakes in tartarus and asphodel (to force in the build you want), defensive keepsakes or util ( util being hourglass, purse) for elysium and defense or damage for styx

I would maybe consider mom pom for elysium if i had a hangover build going and very few pommable boons

keyword maybe

and when I say very few pommables I mean like 3

[slender spruce]

mom pom lol

[rustic vale]

smthing like this is what I'm thinking

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1247285296643444796/43940E80-DC7D-4B43-87CC-0876E67740EE.jpg?ex=665f7874&is=665e26f4&hm=d7264726e027d7ce6fbd980cba61b5b1f9eb21721a3b95372630d5b726493bb4&

where there are only 4 pommable boons

but even then 1/4 is still really low for hitting what you want it to pom

[latent moon]

i would not take mom pom even if i had 3 lmao

i took mom pom into ely once with 3 and i lost the 1/3

[rustic vale]

you'll typically be better off by just taking purse with you if you want a damage boost

[latent moon]

i tihnk anyways it's in my nem vod

[rustic vale]

you can buy a pom with that money and put the pom on what you want

or buy a boon or a heart if you're feeling like it

or a touch of styx dark

[slender spruce]

what's the build for excalibur?

[latent moon]

@rustic vale rate my pact

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[latent moon]

aphrodite atk and that's pretty much it

[slender spruce]

I'm just going tank and go Athena and some boons from Dion

[slender spruce]

hey I ahve this

[latent moon]

then youre good lmao

could get ddash if you want

that's nice

but dio isn't gonna be helpful

[slender spruce]

I got his tanky things

[rustic vale]

Nice 32 heat pact

[gusty cave]

i got a new rocord 30 minute clear lol

[slender spruce]

does the plume buffs disappear once you change keepsakes

[latent moon]

i already did ri4 34 lmao

[latent moon]

yes

[rustic vale]

You know what

I think that might be

The most common question in yhe last 3 days

Serious uptick in people asking

“Hey does {butterfly/plumd} stay when I take it off”

[latent moon]

wait i can literally hit 50 heat with this if i take hl5 and hs lmao

im gonna do that after i shower

actually hl5 em4 scary

idk em4 that well

gonna chill first and see what happens

[rustic vale]

Guys can we add that to #hades-faq

[latent moon]

no one checks that lmao

[rustic vale]

Right after all the questions nobodies asked in 5 years

“And yes, plume and butterfly do go away when you take them offl

[jagged hamlet]

We should just tell them that it doesn't fall off so that they get mad and spread word of how we were wrong and that it does fall off

They will stop at nothing to gripe

[gusty cave]

uhm what upgrade should i get in house contracter? the one with diamonds

[jagged hamlet]

Focus on Work Orders to improve your runs

[gusty cave]

sorry?

[rustic vale]

Keys give rerolls, all the resource collection ones, gifts give levels, etc

[gusty cave]

i already unlcoked the upgrades that need diamonds

what i'm asking is which is best?

[rustic vale]

Have you purchased any

[gusty cave]

i can unlock on right now

[gusty cave]

none at all

wait i'm still not explaining myself well

[rustic vale]

Rod of fishing, Fated Keys, vanquishers keep, darker thirst, vintage nectar, brilliant gemstones, pitch black darkness

In that order

[gusty cave]

Ah now that makes sense

[rustic vale]

You can probably swap vanquishers keep earlier to

[gusty cave]

You sure darker thirst first though? I only have two upgrades that need gems left

[rustic vale]

increase your resource collection as to get more gems and titan blood faster

[gusty cave]

Only left the runs of wealth superior and plunder greater

Idk if hot more upgrades after that but yea

[rustic vale]

You can trade gemstones up to other

resources

[manic smelt]

god not sure why, but i changed from vulkan to direct x for hades 1. my god some kind of blur or haze that used to exist is GONE ! haha . can actually appreciate the art work / detail quite a bit more now

[rustic vale]

including diamonds

and titans blood

and keys

[gusty cave]

Wait fr?

[rustic vale]

and gemstones

[gusty cave]

I always just do the keys

[rustic vale]

Yeah have you never talked to the trade broker in

[gusty cave]

I did

[rustic vale]

Gems -> keys —> gifts -> diamonds -> ambrosia ->. Lood

[gusty cave]

But only for keys and the occasional offer

[rustic vale]

Yeah but if you buy a ton of keys

You can now get a bunch of gifts

And from the gifts

Get your diamond

and ambrosia

and titan blood

And you have like 10000 gemstone based furnitures to get through at somepoint

[gusty cave]

damn

alirght

[rustic vale]

I’m kinda sitting near the same boat as you rn because I started a new save file recently

Vary scarce on resources

[gusty cave]

oh fr?

[rustic vale]

Yeag

[gusty cave]

i think i'm doing pretty good myself

[rustic vale]

I think I’m doing pretty well atm uhhh

Have you escaped at all?

[gusty cave]

idk lol i just feel like better cause my old file had god mode

[gusty cave]

2 times

[rustic vale]

Ok so

[gusty cave]

?

[rustic vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/1246671151699197952/5D9D9869-90EA-49D9-A5D7-D843FF9B608F.jpg?ex=665fdf7c&is=665e8dfc&hm=9b5bce14837ca9ff5f9a396d3e26a5351f7e80aa92ee55e7666c39cebb885bdd&

[gusty cave]

mine was shield and blade

[rustic vale]

That was clear 2

I just wanted a funny victory screen

[gusty cave]

hehe

how did you already got heat in 2 clear lmao

first run clear?

[rustic vale]

You unlock heat as soon as you escape the first time

[gusty cave]

Bro the ares athena duo?

[rustic vale]

It wasn’t my first run of the save nor the second, it was the second clear

[gusty cave]

oh

[rustic vale]

it was

iirc

my 36th? escape attempt?

[gusty cave]

ah....

[rustic vale]

Most of them had really rough starts because I was missing god keepsakes

So I was forced into taking random gods I normally wouldn’t

or just

It’s 32 heat when I have no work orders and half my mirror is gone

[gusty cave]

damn very good

[rustic vale]

Which is a completelty different game from 32 heat with all the beneficial work orders

Uber respect to ppl like @lavish sorrel who actually routinely clear the game on fresh files

(First attempt of the save file)

[gusty cave]

HUH

[latent moon]

50 heat clear 10

[rustic vale]

Iirc they had a 15 or 16 streak of successful fresh file clears

[latent moon]

fresh file moment

i forgot i said i was gonna learn that

[rustic vale]

Just learn it for Hades 2

[gusty cave]

???

[latent moon]

that's objectively harder lmao

[rustic vale]

Idk what you mean

[gusty cave]

which game is harder?

[latent moon]

i mean it's harder bc i haven't played it nearly as much so idk the ins and outs as well

but h1 vs h2 is gonna be pretty subjective

[gusty cave]

i haven't touch that game cause i want it to be finsihed before i jump in

also there may be offer lol

[rustic vale]

H2 is a harder game because afaik they don’t have static discharge nor rush delivery

[latent moon]

lmao rip rd

you will be missed

[rustic vale]

I mean

[gusty cave]

I FORGOT ABOUT DEATH DEFIANCE

[rustic vale]

You’ll miss RD

I

who have access to my own Hades 2 files

[gusty cave]

WHY IS IT STILL AT LEVEL ONE

BUT ALL OTHERS ARE MAX

[rustic vale]

Will have RD

[latent moon]

lmao unfortunately that is considered cheating

and also there's more ways to get movement speed other than from hermes and wells

[rustic vale]

When have I ever submitted a run to speedrun.com

[latent moon]

you're on switch you cant even mod

[rustic vale]

I’ll be on pc for early access once I’m done my finals

[latent moon]

oh lmao

[rustic vale]

I just

[latent moon]

Imagine having finals in june

[rustic vale]

don’t think it’s a good idea for me to get Hades II before that

[latent moon]

yeah fair

[rustic vale]

Gotta love calculus exam on my birthday

[latent moon]

i played hades 2 the week before finals bc i caved and tbh i dont think it affected how i did on my finals anyways lmao

[jagged hamlet]

Happy Birthday!

[latent moon]

finals week started on my bday last month lmao

[rustic vale]

It’s still a ways off

[rustic vale]

Even better

[gusty cave]

uhm guys recommand me a chiron bow build

the =thing has extra darkness anyways

[rustic vale]

classic hangover build

brb

finding a message I've sent before so I don't have to put all my brain power into typing a message

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1215384223440048238/IMG_2451.jpg?ex=665f6e43&is=665e1cc3&hm=63c52e7e820eddcfe7241d93322df3b28e1e18d7330b584b10c2b0ab6cfb28a4&
swap attack/special with each other depending on weapon/aspect
blue = you need this to get smthing else important to the build
red = important to the build

in this case, you'd rather dio special and aphrodite attack on chiron, so you'd swap them as aforementioned

goodness why is this screenshot such a mess

[gusty cave]

i only undertsand 50% lmaoo

[rustic vale]

ok so

the point is you want dionysus on the fast hitting part

and aphrodite on the slower higher base damagae action

here it's bow strike for aphrodite and special for dionysus

that way you unlock low tolerance so weakened enemies can have up to 8 weaken stacjs

[gusty cave]

ahh

[rustic vale]

you're already weakening enemies when you hit them with the attack

[gusty cave]

so get special then attack

[rustic vale]

then you can put ares on curse of vengeance so that you unlock the curse of nausea duo

for increased hangover speed

for more dps

[gusty cave]

ngl this build is very similar to my build last clear

[rustic vale]

that's an option

[gusty cave]

i did zues shiled

with dio special, art cast, atk apho and curse of vengeance

[rustic vale]

the other options are from there going zeus and taking zeus call, looking for smouldering air, and trying to find static discharge

[gusty cave]

i also had curse of nuasua back then

[rustic vale]

or you can go poseidon, take pos dash for more damage and utility, hope for sweet nectar to double the poms

you can go for any combo of those as supporting gods

[gusty cave]

sweet necter need what poms?

so basically dio special, atk apho and curtse of venegance??

[rustic vale]

sweet nectar is aphro/pos duo that doubles your pom value

[gusty cave]

isn't that the same build i did one shield???

[rustic vale]

hangover works on a lot of weapons

[gusty cave]

how to get

[rustic vale]

you just need an aphrodite core and a poseidon one

[gusty cave]

kk

[rustic vale]

so in this case you already have aphrodite strike

you'd take tidal dash

[gusty cave]

then what for posiden

[rustic vale]

it's an option

[gusty cave]

kk

tidal dash

i'll get into a run and ask you when the boons come out kk?

[rustic vale]

hangover is something that you can pretty much slap on any weapon and find success, as long as aphrodite goes on the hard hitting slow part, and dionysus goes on the fast multihitting thing

there are other chiron builds but I really like hangover, so it came to mind first

[gusty cave]

btw dementer useless?

it's either pom or her

[rustic vale]

take pom

she doesn't do much here

and poms are always nice on hangover

[gusty cave]

@rustic valetake special damage on chaos?

[rustic vale]

yeah

it's valid since you have an 80 base damage special essentially (assuming level 5)

[gusty cave]

nope level one

[rustic vale]

and if you find concentrated volley or relentless volley ou just get more valu-

[gusty cave]

but the others are just atk and atk

[rustic vale]

]

oh

you'll

have an experience here

[gusty cave]

??

[rustic vale]

chiron is definitely an aspect that exists when it's level 5

anywhere in the 1-3 range and you're at an aspect that... probably exists

maybe

if you catch my drift

[gusty cave]

ahh

kk

[rustic vale]

yeah

special damage doesn't matter if it's level 1

level1

I would've taken strike or dash strike

since in the end it's still a bow so it'll go far there

[gusty cave]

BRO IT"S GIVE ME DEMMETER MINI BOSS

[rustic vale]

that's ok

don't worry about it

you have the hangover itself and thats the first step

everything else is coming in support of it

it's not the end of the world that demeter is now in your pool

[pliant meadow]

Does rush kick disable dash-upper?

Can rush kick benefit hunter dash or other dash-strike damage bonus?

[rustic vale]

genuinely unsure

it does activate when you activate your dash upper

but I don't know if it fully overrides it and causes it to be treated as a standing upper

if you're choosing between it and something else

I'd want to know the other options

ok so

looking through previous messages including rush kick, it looks like rush kick doesn't disable dash special

[split sand]

https://www.rxddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/s/kVmULFkmAY

Is this a commonly known bug?

For clarity, I only had 3 casts here, 2 were stuck in an enemy when charmed hades stuck the same enemy with his skull. When I killed him he dropped 3 casts, so I was able to use 4 (you can see all 4 stuck in hades at the same time)

[twin thistle]

Its known. I forget how it works

[lavish sorrel]

Thirty-four is my best, actually

[brisk trail]

How do i get access to hades II early access?

[split sand]

You just purchase it. It's not a closed beta or anything. I believe it's only available on steam though

[tepid plover]

Yep, you go to steam, and buy it, just like a regular game

[tepid plover]

Stickybot relevant for once

[warm swallow]

I can't believe they put Hades II early access behind a pay wall. Smh. 😔

[tepid plover]

Unbelievable really

[pliant meadow]

any method to boost Charon fight chance? Only fought him once, just dicovered I need to collect 10 loyalty cards to complete codex..

[reef zodiac]

Always take midshops

Iirc he’s guaranteed to be available to fight in one of the three midshops every run

[tepid plover]

Not guaranteed

[reef zodiac]

Oh

[tepid plover]

But yeah he only spawns in midshops, so the only thing you can do is take all the midshops

[reef zodiac]

Wtf is AP2 religion

[tepid plover]

Only using ap2

[reef zodiac]

I had AP0 cultist in my name in speedcord, is that like the opposite

[tepid plover]

Or rather always

[reef zodiac]

Eww

That’s the worst

[tepid plover]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

I love it

[reef zodiac]

AP is the worst condition on the pact

[tepid plover]

My favorite

[cobalt trellis]

i started playing hades 1 recently and its hella fun. tho i spoiled myself in a lot of stuff im not sure if the game has an end end point. like is there a point where i cant play anymore cause the story is over?

wrong server sorry

[queen monolith]

I haven't found that point yet but I mean at some point all dialogue must be told. It's taking a lot of time.

[cobalt trellis]

okay thank you. im happy too hear it wont end soon

[tepid plover]

nope, its endlesly replayable

in terms of gameplay that is

the story will be "over" but that wont stop you from playing

[queen monolith]

Yeah but what I mean is even the story reaches far beyond the main objective so it's really a lot of content even after the credits.

[tepid plover]

both

theres lots to do yes

[analog thistle]

when can i give ambrosia to dad?

[rustic vale]

[analog thistle]

and meg for that matter

[tepid plover]

when you complete their favor

[analog thistle]

how cna i do that?

[rustic vale]

depends on the npc, all of them are listed on the wiki

[rustic vale]

In order to trigger the first encounter with Megaera in Zagreus' room (to collect her belongings), she must have been gifted at least 4 Nectar.

After a random number of encounters with the Furies, Megaera will approach Zagreus in his room, and tell him that she's only stopping him from escaping because she has to. After this interaction, Megaera can receive Ambrosia the next time she is met in the House of Hades.

Hades involves completing the base story

so 10 clears should do the trick

it might need some rng dialogue after that

[analog thistle]

i mean i got ||persephone home ||+ 1 clear but nah

[obtuse stirrup]

I'm done handing out nectar, just ambrosia left

And I finally grabbed every duo in the game and got that nice BevMo reward package

[agile lodge]

Loving that I still am wanting to play Hades after Hades 2 released. Feels like a different game in a way

[obtuse stirrup]

The completionist in me wants max blood on every aspect of every weapon

[rustic vale]

that's not a hard task

[obtuse stirrup]

But maybe just choose the best of each and leave it at that

[rustic vale]

the real punishing part for the completionist in you may be the 325k darkness if you want to get all the resource director ranks

[obtuse stirrup]

I still don't understand exactly how to farm blood with heat.

[rustic vale]

I mean if you do every heat level up to 20 with every weapon

you should be 50 blood under the needed amount

[obtuse stirrup]

So each heat level is its own reward bracket?

[rustic vale]

yes

[rustic vale]

that's 252 blood and you need 30x

[obtuse stirrup]

I really hate the rng heats

[rustic vale]

?

[obtuse stirrup]

Random boon canceled out

[rustic vale]

just don't use those

[obtuse stirrup]

Stuff like that

What's the best bow aspect

[rustic vale]

I don't turn approval process on at 40 heat

[rustic vale]

Hera for speed, Rama for heat, Zag bow is the third best, and Chiron is easily the 4th best bow

quick tip

make sure you're dash striking regardless of the bow aspect

[lavish sorrel]

"chiron is the 4th-best bow" LMFAO

TRUE

[rustic vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1244826023510409298/1247332222869049425/2024010419473301-C7D8C4153CC9802713604F54C53304E0.gif?ex=66604ce8&is=665efb68&hm=9a889604608c88e9def277fcfc14ad9d0c0727481851bee2a479cc2362319b72&

[obtuse stirrup]

Rama then, I'm not overly concerned about speed unless there are good rewards for it

[rustic vale]

when I say Heat

I mean high heat like 32+

it's still a safe aspect for heat's below that but at those heats Hera is also insanely useful

[lavish sorrel]

(if you're talking above 50, then chiron unironically becomes a better option than hera and that makes me cry)

[rustic vale]

lmao tf

[lavish sorrel]

there's a modded 60 chiron somewhere while hera is stuck at 57 modded and 56 unmodded

[obtuse stirrup]

I remapped my fire button on steam with a 305ms delay

So it's perfect dash striking all day

[rustic vale]

lmao what

[lavish sorrel]

that is cursed 🗿

I don't like that LOL

[rustic vale]

I can't imagine bow where I just played it like semiauto rail

[lavish sorrel]

flurry shot kinda zagrail, right

[obtuse stirrup]

A curse on my enemies

[tepid plover]

maybe cause they are different games

[tepid plover]

nah he turned it into a gif now

[rustic vale]

Yeah I can’t be bothered to expect ppl to click and watch a video

Was easier to just have it play

[tepid plover]

Shackle: I need to stop posting this clip 🤚 😔
Also shackle: hehe but a gif

[rustic vale]

Yep

Narcissistic like that

[tepid plover]

calm down laurel

[rustic vale]

I have found it extremely useful for getting my point across in a lot of scenarios

explaining why you’d bow dash strike with a visual aid is

[agile lodge]

Damn bro what an insightful educated comment. No duh they are different games. A majority of sequels in general keep the same combat and weapons. I'm just glad I can enjoy both games separately and not feel like one is better than the other. That's what I was getting at.
In regards to your smart ass comment, you don't need to make yourself seem like the cockiest person on the server 😂 I posted an hour ago, so cute that you're scrolling up to see who you can be smarter than.

[fervent radish]

🗿

[tepid plover]

god damn b my bad

[fervent radish]

Bro nuked an ant

[tepid plover]

in my defense i didnt scroll up, discord opened right on your message

thats all i have to say

[rustic vale]

Discord does it for me too

[agile lodge]

You still felt the need to reply like a smart ass though... I was complimenting the games and you just felt the need to make a pointless comment

For what?

[tepid plover]

indeed I did

for selfish reasons of course

made me feel better, smarter

[rustic vale]

The most recent case was hydraulic might’s potency because you can literally see the damage drop off half way thru the fight (even accounting for the lack of crits)

[tepid plover]

i love hydraulic might so much

[agile lodge]

Happy to help have a great day

[void vigil]

misunderstandings sometimes happen and there's no need to get snippy over it, please move on from this thanks

[obtuse stirrup]

I also saved a different layout where the R1 button auto-triggers the L1 button for automatic reload on the rail whenever I launch the special

[queen monolith]

uhm with the god tokens, do they not "expend" like in hades 2 and i can actually just pick high level boons from a god all the way through?

[reef zodiac]

They will only guarantee one boon from that god

[queen monolith]

and only buff that one?

[reef zodiac]

No, but there’s WAY more you can get out of a keepsake than a 20% chance of a rare boon from one god

[queen monolith]

like?

i just mean the god boons

[reef zodiac]

Like ignoring the first 5 hits to any boss, an extra dd that restores 100hp, 150 gold, +40% damage below 35% hp, +8 chambers per charon item (for certain builds), or just forcing a boon from a different god

[queen monolith]

just asking how they are working

[mint coral]

The force boon is just one time and you keep the rarity buff

[queen monolith]

ok

[mint coral]

But nobody uses the rarity part

[reef zodiac]

It’s kinda negligible

[rustic vale]

they expend

they only expend once you pick up a boon from that god thou

the rarity boost persists

[fervent radish]

Hades 2 players when they can’t ||rarify|| a boon

[reef zodiac]

10/10 mechanic

[tepid plover]

yeah stickybot, kill all of them out

[queen monolith]

i correct life leech excalibur works.
i slap battled hades and won with losing barely over 170 hp

much better than the last one.

but i also had a 30% attack speed so lucky i guess

i should try with a fast sword again

[fervent radish]

It does funnily enough.

If you stack damage reduction like weak and hypersprint, you can do pretty well

[loud canyon]

any other games with similar combat to this but are story games and have alot of different builds you can do kinda like diablo 3

[tepid plover]

Closest thing I can think of is astral ascent, major ask tbh

Roguelikes aren't good story tellers for the most part

[mint coral]

have you heard of hades 2

[tepid plover]

I ruled out the obvious

Although h2 is kinda lacking in the story part for now

[loud canyon]

oh no i didnt mean rougelike just games in general

[tepid plover]

Oh idk, i only play roguelikes

[brisk trail]

I bought different aspects for all the weapons

I am happy now

||also got the first heat statue||

[queen monolith]

i didnt play rogue lites until this year xD

[brisk trail]

I want rogue heavy

A rogue heavy would consist of perma perma death

[queen monolith]

"die, be reborn, grow up, earn money, buy the game again"

[stoic summit]

BRO

I just freaking died to charon!

stupid bastard

[latent moon]

i mean you stole from him

so deserved lmao

[stoic summit]

it was an accident...👀

i had beaten him twice before and i knew to fill the codex i need to do it like 11 times or something and i thought since i had the adamant rail i would be fine but bro killed me all 4 times gahh

[brisk trail]

It finally happened

In like my 123rd run

I encountered boulder guy, cooking lady, and sitting guy

All in the same escape attempt

[stoic summit]

what does that do? something special?

[warm swallow]

Is that where if you die during a run, you also die in real life?

[brisk trail]

I guess so

[warm swallow]

Sign me the peck up! 😀

[stone rune]

sword art online is a roguelike confirmed

[steep star]

welp, I finished all the steam achievements, and my only unfinished prophecies are "learn to play the lyre", a couple of missing hammers, and double tap the secret boss

might be time to take a break and head back to the sequel

[stone rune]

charon is easy

shouldnt take long

[steep star]

yeah maybe one more run

with Zeus shield for maximum cheese

[subtle needle]

i can't lie it's so hard want to keep playing any of the rails on controller because of the special

even on hestia i feel obliged to weave it in and watch as it lands on not one enemy

[faint ruin]

game trying to lure me with a optional boss battle, during a run when I finally get poseidons aid... nope working on getting riptide

[steep star]

charon was a tiny bit tougher in the first shop in tartarus with only one boon

[spring lotus]

In the beta of hades 1, were hammers removed and replaced by others?

[void vigil]

In early access a lot of things were removed, added or reworked

[jagged hamlet]

I don't know the answer myself, but we could always trawl through #hades-patch-notes

[runic jungle]

I fr hate Charon so much that bum only be stocking healing items when I'm at full hp😤

[subtle needle]

charon hooks me up on the low sorry if he has no more boons for you all

[rich fjord]

what a simple beowulf build

trying for the rfist time

[latent moon]

poseidon cast -> artemis boon to open up mirage shot -> get mirage shot

win

mirage shot is bugged to deal 100% damage instead of 30% so abuse that

[rich fjord]

sweet thanks

straight to the point too 😭 get one duo boon and win

[slender spruce]

Question!

Bow special trigger all of Zeus' boon?

Volley of arrows

[jagged hamlet]

Answer!

No!

[slender spruce]

😦

Does it only lightning strike once per enemy

[jagged hamlet]

The arrows are too rapid to proc Zeus constantly. Zeus's special has a 0.2s cooldown, so not all the arrows will proc it. It's not once per enemy, but it is only a few times per enemy

[rich fjord]

wait if i have mirage shot and then replace my cast will it still work

so my cast wont be artemis or poseidons

[stone rune]

yeah but dont

[rich fjord]

oh rly?

[stone rune]

you want it to be poseidon

[slender spruce]

Ohh

thanks for the info

[stone rune]

also dont use chiron if thats what ur saying

[rich fjord]

im getting the option for athena

no on beosulkf

[stone rune]

the other guy

[rich fjord]

oh

[stone rune]

phalanx flare is insanely annoying

do not take it

[slender spruce]

What are some of the good synergies with Volley, the one that homes

[stone rune]

the aoe is so small

[rich fjord]

ahh i see

[stone rune]

it has none its garbage

[rich fjord]

ok ty

[stone rune]

it is possible to use your dragon rush, hit an enemy with it, and have the knockback from the rush move them out of the radius of phalanx flare

[slender spruce]

But if you were forced to use it

what would you build

[stone rune]

i would choose to not take a special

[jagged hamlet]

Frog, I like your possom profile picture!

[stone rune]

and pretend i was playing zagbow and was just really unlucky

[rich fjord]

omfg is there like a "best time" to use meg on hades

[stone rune]

spam it at the start

[rich fjord]

bro keeps dashing around and dodging it

[stone rune]

wont miss

[rich fjord]

oh evvery time?

[stone rune]

when you get good you learn other times

but for now just spam at the start

[jagged hamlet]

Early Battie gets the worm

[rich fjord]

victory

beowulf is pretty fun

[latent moon]

big damage fun

[stoic summit]

why tf did i use like 6 of those changing dice things on doors in eleisium and it only changed from ares to athena??

[tepid plover]

The fates be like that

[rustic vale]

Your fault for using fated authority

[stoic summit]

well i only have the other one to like 1 so kafahguatg

[rustic vale]

Sidenote, that’s lightning bolts in general

[stoic summit]

upgrading the other one is like mad expensive

[rustic vale]

as long as you have keys give rerolls you can run 0

[stoic summit]

fr fr

was i just unlucky though?

[reef zodiac]

What were you looking for

[stoic summit]

like anything other than ares or athena

it just kept switching

even when i went to the other door it switched artimes to ares

[rustic vale]

It’s exactly what I did for this clear- wait

I’m not spoiling you by sending a victory screen am I

[stoic summit]

nah

[rustic vale]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/1246671151699197952/5D9D9869-90EA-49D9-A5D7-D843FF9B608F.jpg?ex=6660883c&is=665f36bc&hm=c3e113e109319ec398b4fff6f999e7ba30caa31cc290460248061f31fa441717&

[latent moon]

You can use keys to reset the mirror and put darkness into the other one

Also fated authority to max is more expensive than fated persusasion lol

[rustic vale]

mirror on a budget

[stoic summit]

bruh i keep upgrading fated authority cause i want to max the mirror and those two are the last ones but fated authority is still not max

[rustic vale]

like

fated persuasion is better to max first

[stoic summit]

bruh i be dying on like 12 heat in like 30 minutes and then others are like yeah 32 heat easy no sweat like sigh

[rustic vale]

Tbf

I have put in

a lot of time

[reef zodiac]

Why are you more focused on maxing out your mirror than first maxing out the parts of the mirror that are most useful

[stoic summit]

I have everything else masxed

[reef zodiac]

Speaking of which are you using dark foresight

[rustic vale]

Then max the more useful fated persuasion first

[stoic summit]

ive played like 95 hours or smth i guess im just trash lol

[rustic vale]

Tbf you can put a lot of time in and not get far if you’re on your own

[stoic summit]

no

[reef zodiac]

I would highly suggest it

[rustic vale]

see

[reef zodiac]

It’s extremely good

^

[stoic summit]

im trying to get duo and legendary boons right not but ill def keep that in mind

[rustic vale]

That’s not the right one

[reef zodiac]

It will help a lot with that

[stoic summit]

wait...

[rustic vale]

Dark foresight swaps the rare boost, not duo

[stoic summit]

also wait...

[reef zodiac]

Getting 40% more boons/gold will help a TON

[rustic vale]

I mean it’s more than 40% tbh

[stoic summit]

this one only affects if it will be rare? not just higher in general, thats so mid

[reef zodiac]

Wym

[reef zodiac]

It doesn’t even matter what it does because the flip side is so unbelievably strong

[stoic summit]

why does it seem to me that most of the flips are like mad worse that the counter parts

[rustic vale]

wait am I crazy? I’m like mega tired

[latent moon]

40% chance for boons to be rare doesn't matter if you dont see boons lmao

[latent moon]

most of the mirror should be purple, i think like 5 or so should be green

[rustic vale]

It’s roughly 50:50 for greens

[reef zodiac]

Default is 50/50, with DF I’m pretty sure it’s 70/30, which is 40% more right

[latent moon]

4 should be green, rest purple

[stoic summit]

how is fiery presence any type of good? like it seems so garbage, the first hit on an enemy does a little more damage?

[rustic vale]

Yes

[reef zodiac]

It’s great on some things

And not good on others

[rustic vale]

The first hit doing more damage is exactly the point

[stoic summit]

undamaged, first hit same thing no?

[reef zodiac]

Hestia for example, it gets an extra 113 damage per first power shot on an enemy

[rustic vale]

On specific aspects, the boost from fiery is enough to enable oneshotting or twoshotting for far more enemies

[latent moon]

@stoic summit your mirror should be this, just swap ruthless reflex with greater reflex
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/1244788900661035059/image.png?ex=6660ef80&is=665f9e00&hm=08092c66f8507ed4c0487eb695b9a85b0e1542728ac59d0bb0068c53094bb56c&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1191&height=670

[stoic summit]

Hestia? is that the hidden aspect on the bow? its like the only one i dont have]