#h1-discussion
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lessen
oh lessen
sure footing in aspho is fine as a newer player tbh but flourish is gonna be more helpful for 1 specific case that would prob get you killed lmao
do you have a dash boon already
go for poseidon
get poseidon dash
hermes doesnt count
hermes is more similar to a hammer than typical olympian boons
what are the other optoins lmao
razor shoal and tempest flourish are the other two
what are the other choices
do you have pos attack
whats pos
poseidon
he has aphro iirc
oh
what rarity is shoals
in that case razor shoals imo
it is rare
yeah shoals
Is tidal dash there?
no
nopr
game bad moment
beat hydra
how do i check my boons i wanansee if i have a dash
yea idont have one
i can purge
well you've got access to both poseidon and athena now
great reflex or dying lament
either one of their dashes would be good
no need to purge anything if you don't have a reason to
welcome to elysium
how much max hp do you have
uhhh, it'd personally go for the centaur heart
but hammer is also very good
up to you
i got hammer
sniper shot, triple shot, or charged volley
think sniper would be useful cause of my kb
imma get sniper then
yeah it's probably the most useful of those three
you are getting some unfortunately rather mediocre offerings in this run
do you have a cast boon yet
Yesterday in my music theory class, we analyzed Good Riddance as part of our video game music unit!
(We being myself, the teacher, and the college students lol)
ok i PERSONALLY like aphrodite aid a lot but i understand a lot of people don't play the way i do
passion dash isn't a great dash so i'd suggest crush shot
even if you never use your cast, having the aphrodite boon opens up some opportunities
ok
imma get crush then
damn i used my death defied
i can have hunter -dash
exit wounds(epic)
or pressure oints(epic)
crit chance looks nice
4%
yeah pressure points is nice
beat theseus and the minos
but it took both of my death defiances
im out now
oo tidal dash
imma get that
nice
@tepid light ok so
epic ahrodites aid
differrent league(epic)
or parting shot duo
i got past cerebus
im in the snow now
oh thers hades
wow ok
aight in this situation i'd take aphrodite's aid just because the other two are very mediocre in your situation
just remember to only use it when your call meter is full
yea too late sorry i took different league
ah rip
might still be helpful
I BEAT HIM
I BEAT HADES
@tepid light
i think
unless he has a second phase
then im coked
wait for it
very real hades moment
of course he had a secon phase
i got him to 1/3 his hp on second phase
but died
damn
so close
well hey, you got pretty far
congrats on your progress nevertheless
you'll get him next time
well thats annoying
if not for his magma beam thingies
waht do i use ambrosia again
the cube like nectar
ambrosia is basically a special nectar type you use at certain points within a given relationship
Super nectar
you can hide behind the pillars
You can hide behind the pillars to protect you or use the "hug your dad" technique when he shoots out beams from all sides
is there a book by supergiant on the development of hades, with a ton of unused concept art and early drafts?? i absolutely loved the no-clip documentaries, but would love a physical book filled with concept art and such so im hoping something like that exists
sadly no
If they ever make a live action Hades movie/series. Imagine jack black as Hades
Just think about it
Does he know
Anyways I got aspect of Zeus to level 5 
Guys which 6 people are the people that give me the companions?
Ik skelly and megaera
But what about the rest?
Than/Achilles/Dusa/Sisyphus
Oh thanks dude
Oh tartarus yes
he does now 
bro celebrated too early
i think hades is too serious a character for jack black
no thats whatll make it funny trust 🙏
he shouldt be funny tho..
ok hear me out now
super serious hades
but hes jack black
so in universe hes all hades-y
but in the behind the scenes stuff and interviews hed be jack black as per normal
i wouldnt say jack black has the look or voice of someone playing a god of the underworld lol
u just want more jack black innit 
who dont my bro
Does anybody here have Hades 1 Early Access memories? It's where I spent most of my 311h with the game, but I can't remember any OP builds or anything
i dont think anybody knew good builds
I remember Satyr poison obliterating you and how hard OG Lernie kicked my ass and that's it
The devs 100% needed to nerf stuff before release
Can't remember what though
The main reason I spammed Poseidon back then was because it was fun to keep knocking enemies against walls and into lava
The original shackle also gave 500% environmental damage
im so glad i (intentionally) lost my streak and i can attempt hard stuff now 😌
anyways damn power couple forced overtime is hard
yeah i have middle management on too
it was uh 28 heat
do you know about the meg timing
not really ! i just got meg only recently
i used to only have than lol
ait
so basically you want to strip damage control and then hug gorgon. when crusher is about to land, meg and you'll iframe the hit while hopefully stripping armor from both(prioritize crusher or wait for next cycle if you mess up)
and then just play as normal
@round hill my way of thinking of why skelly just dips after a while if you don't swap weapons is cuz it doesn't need to display the tutorial for the weapon
So less bug, more intentional (but annoying)
Ig but I think it’s a bit weird to hide an entire character if the game thinks you don’t need to practice
Y’a know?
Getting invited to the technical test made me pick the first one back up again and it's unbelievable how fun it is
I have found my new game to sink 200h into
this is absolutely massive.
when asterius says guh
Finally got my last theme and completed all purchases from the contractor 🙌
Now to keep at the codex 😭
I say vuh
buh
juh
nuh
muh
Pho!
man i just got offered cursed slash flurry slash and world splitter on one hammer screw this
Come to modded
i play on switch
Rip
im not really clicking with any weapons except fists :/
the rest of them seem more boring to me
and for some of them, less intuitive of what builds would be good
alright i got flurry jab on first hammer the game has redeemed itself
flurry jab is kinda painful tho at the same time
thats the one that shortens dash right?
no
oh just kidding
that's serrated point
haha
flurry is hold for faster atk/no spin
oh yep
you could probably look up some youtube videos and get a better answer then you will here tbh
are you on controller or kbm
me?
yeah
Controller
alright…
remap cast to a shoulder button so it's easier to load them while attacking
oh yeah, like i tried but i couldn´t understand how did he do an insane amount of damage
like
dayumm
i was thinking about it, ngl
aphro cast and just pom it
are you looking for a build?
add chaos cast dmg/extra casts (or from charon)
hermes rush delivery as always good but quick reload is decent for bosses
or you learn wall bugging
snow burst really good at picking up small enemies
charons item is good too cause extra casts isnt that rare in shops
also sigil of the dad is good vs dad too
(you can swap to it in ely too but charon keepsake in any chamber from ely can last you to dad with a 2 sack)
if you haven't picked up 2nd hermes and have rush delivery open avoiding dad call is also good
to not open hermes's call boons
you cant get hermes call boons with dad call?
or is it other way around
oh it is i understand now
haha
I wish
guys hear me out: Hade’s call could’ve been a bit more imo.
maybe I just need to use it more… maybe I should play hades more lmao.
they’re both run saviors.
ikr, the acorn can protect you against strong attacks that hit hard at a cap of 5 while the tooth gives you an extra death defiance.
it’s situational but you don’t know how much the acorn saved me in Elysium or Asphodel.
yeah… won’t speed-run it yet.
but I’m planning too :>
when dad's weakest attack is 20 acorn just has too much value lmao
SO TRUE.
(and the attack also makes you take double dmg for a while)
oh wait… that’s actually pretty cool.
yeah dad and zag natural abilities are well, similar
I should really use it more lol.
cast/boiling blood/dash
bro… the tooth saved me so much earlier on. I was struggling lol.
(also my indecisiveness doesn’t help lol)
acorn pretty much always rules over tooth
on super dad is more of a gamble though
thanks to B.balls/Sneak
when it comes to the mirror… I’m glad I changed my original plan.
the real answer is just not getting these 2 anyways
Sneak can be a pain when it happens in a run. That mini-boss is literally the definition of tedious.
like it disappearing and reappearing again is such a coward move lol.
I remember when I hated doomstone.
But honestly… I got over it pretty quickly.
Also I got better too.
ugh sneak..
real
SO REAL
I mean it’s probably the top 2nd most annoying enemy in Styx.
The top 1 goes towards to… ||TINY RAT|| and you know why.
the satyrs are really annoying until you realize that they track you during the windup so you have to dash at the end instead of the start
I just hide behind the pillars and attack when they’re near… it’s honestly very risky but it works for me lol.
wait… you can do that?
well that makes it much easier.
you can also just nuke them
can anyone tell me how to get hidden spear aspect
i also love how Styx just casually makes enemy poisonous lol.
unlock 5 non zag aspects, have minor list of prophecies and have reached final boss at least once
rats and satyrs.
keep talking to achilles after that
and for the record, #h1-story-discussion pins have the method for all hiddens
yeah that was such “duh” comment lol.
So it appears that I have been sleeping on artemis call this whole time.
Any tips on how to survive those rat rooms?
yeah… it’s a great finisher imo.
Tidal dash
Poseidon dash?
Yes
get lucky
do you mean styx in general or rat o' clock
oh… uh… just hope.
take miniboss rooms first
they are easier at least
the sack itself is a coin flip tho
Oh boy
around 52 to be on 2nd tunnel
is it random every time btw?
pretty sure.
Oh I hate the mini bosses lol
Especially that rat one
tony is annoying
but after a while you at least can understand its patterns
vs a million enemies in a big room
that also has traps everywhere
Do the miniboss rooms have a chance of having a satyr sack in them?
the only rule for the sack is that the first tunnel you enter can't have it
miniboss rooms are just easier to beat
that I never knew… tysm.
In one of my attempts I end up finding the sack on my first try
you didn't 
is in the code that 1 sack can't be done
uh… how?
Then on one of my attempts I end up beating all the tunnels and then found the sack in the last tunnel
while tidal dash alone is good alone if you really, really wanna bully styx then you add breaking wave
I usually find that sack in 2-3 chambers
Is it possible to have to go through all of them and find it in the last one?
Honestly asking
I think I'd be so mad if it happened to me lol
Is one sack not enough for a dog!?
the small rooms make the enemies play ping pong
Well it does have 3 heads
there’s something I’ve been waiting to ask: when I find the sack… should I clear the remaining tunnels?
often no
ok… just was asking.
no more fountain so the dmg you take will stay
yeah
it can kill runs under td3 
2 sack is ideal not only for time but for the patty buff
there’s also a fountain in the sack room.
Ooh I'm going to be so heated if that happens to me
Is it really true that minibosses are easier than the tunnels?
yeah but once you find the sack no more fountains will spawn
fair.
Also question, Athena is the only one who has attacks that can deflect right?
1 big enemy is a lot more manageable
it depends on the person really.
Big rat
here’s some advice with that one.
What about this?
if yes you can just pop one in the miniboss and remove the armor
Technically yes I think.
There's a lot less poison darts in the mini boss chambers I think
I hate those things sm
Nah I beated it
yeah you can get sack on miniboss tunnels
really..?
Oh man that's gonna be tough
I didn’t know that’s
unmodded you take them first just in case is not a 2 sack
It's either a tiny rat or a sack
if its not you just get another fast miniboss vs gambling on taking a non mini and the sack not being there
yeah… afaik: she is.
though do keep in mind…. duo boons kinda change some things.
nothing changes the deflect tho
nah… I knew that.
but yeah… Athena is your go-to for defensive efficiency.
unless you have Aegis… almost every weapon is really good with her.
I’d recommend getting her boons when you have the chance in a run.
I'm going to go with Athena boons for my next shield run for the lols
I'll be untouchable as long as I remember to dodge when necessary 🔥
That Hercules from wish won't see it coming
I'm ngl chill seems really useless asf by itself
I really regret not going for dio boons too
chill stacks, so you can slow enemies (move speed and attack speed) by 40%
though slowing attack speed can throw you off if you dash based on the normal timing, I think the animations are the same speed and they just wait between windup and execution
Ah
I honestly haven't noticed any movement speed
Only good thing I've seen from chill is that it pairs really really well with hangover XD
stop that
real
Never taking chaos boons b4 a boss battle
well that’s chaos for you… sometimes the risk is greater than the reward.
or the other way around.
but the benefits depending on the curse type: can be super helpful.
I used to be like you too dw!
We all start somewhere.
It got better when I learned to dodge properly tho.
those curses are fine most of the time
I’m like 5 heat
ok… fair.
One time i got cooked because I got a chaos curse that decreased my dash and I went into elysium and got demolished by the chariots lol
-dash distance/enshrouded/+enemies always sucks
Wait I just got epic drunken strike
but on tart I take -dash sometimes
I might cook
if I lose it was in tart anyways so lol
Asterius slayed me
Actually wait no it was theesus
THEUSUSSSSSSS
My god I was literally about to deflect but I lost iframes from my previous attack
oh boy… he’s a pain until you adapt.
Nah I’m usually good at slaying theesus
I need more DPS
I should’ve traded epic divine strike for that heroic drunken strike
nope
nope
don't do that
ever
wait
do you mean dash for dash
or strike for strike
No strike
what wep is this
what weapon
strike for strike
BUT HES A PAIN IN GENERAL
ESPECIALLY WHEN THE GOD HE CALLS ON KICKS UR BUTR
i mean theseus is pretty free
normal Theseus is a joke
yeah fair point tbh.
honestly I just hate him
I have actual problems with him
Personal.. problems
Asterius I like his fight fr
I just get greedy with theseus and take unnecessary damage tbh
yeah but LET ME TELL YOU… he gets worse with heat applied.
Whenever I’m not uber focused Theesus catches me off guard
No please the sisters almost cooked me 😭😭😭
Okay I’ll admit
I got greedy this time
😔😔
Blaming it on chaos
What a shame
What weapon
I got greedy and tried to hit him with my strike
alr… simplest solution would be to just avoid his spear by hiding by objects.
Achilles spear
For me it honestly depends on the weapon
If I'm using spear I be struggling
But rail + zues attack and delta chamber?
He done for
or the structures you see.
Yeah
every boss works for this except the Furies and the final boss.
Or just obtain an object of your own
delta is just too good at dodging
Like the shield.
also for Theseus I find it easier to just dodge the spin attack instead
if you don't wanna hide/time the dash for the throw
me too… his target attack is potentially worse honestly.
You can make the minotaur crash into him right?
Man I just got through with that battle and I still can't remember names lol
It stated with an A
you gotta have fast reflexes.
Dodge when the target turns red
I’ll throw Achilles to protect me and speeding
Fr fr
Or just pay attention to the cues
yeah it gets you funny dialogue
true.
also asterius
HOW
I mean sometimes it looks like he’s about to hit him when I zip with Achilles
charm is the most effective when used situationally.
I’ve only ever actually stopped him even fully maxed out
charm has nothing to do with that
you can just dash through Theseus while bull is rushing you and most surely you'll get him to crash
I gotta get back to the game… I already forgot the meta…
need to pom call for that
Gotta go fast and leas asterius to him!
I haven't quite pulled it off yet myself tho but I have a mission
boses have 1/3rd of normal charm duration
yeah thanks for letting me know… I’ve kinda forgotten.
I have a question @cold isle what weapon do you usually use?
Achilles spear
also what’s making Theseus annoying for you exactly?
Heroic
oh…
TBF it’s me being greedy and him catching me off guard
I think I’m being too harsh blaming him
yeah… I did that a lot before but it usually was a run killer tbh.
I just need to be better at dodging spear while fighting Asterius
you will learn and get better the more you play… trust me on that one 
but also… definitely experiment with weapons and builds… it makes it more fun imo.
Slicing shot
Blade cast or whatever lol
Did a build with HB and ares legendary
Thx 💛
another good thing about builds is knowing what harmonizes and what doesn’t: aka synergies.
Just a little tip
I usually try and get asterius out of the way first
And I always try my best to get Zeus and poseidon boons bc I find theseus 200x times more annoying when he gets their help compared to the others
Oh and dio too
and they can definitely get interesting and unique at points.
for ex: Artemis, Athena, and Aphrodite with the right boons harmonize very well.
even Ares could work to add some extra spice to it… but it really depends on what hammers and boons you have in the run.
Oh I really don't like ares boons.
Except for his attack bc I have finally paid attention to what doom does.
What weapons are even best for him?
very good question.
will say… ares doesn’t always work out.
melee aspects that hit fast
Merciful end is a strong build on every melee aspect
I was about to go over that.
doom strike -> athena special -> divine dash -> merciful end dash strike into everything
Then aside from that you have hunting blades for achilles spear and ares kinda ends there
Ooh noted
I'll try that next time
Either spear run or rail run
question… do you have the codex upgrade?
Also idk what it is but I have been lowkey struggling playing on my switch lately lol
I find it much easier to play with my ps5 controller :/
You mean the fates thing?
I forgotten about it for a minute but yeah I do have that!
The codex is just like an ingame dictionary/encyclopedia for npc’s enemies and items
Pop it open mid run
Oh that thing
I mainly used it to check on romance progress lol
I don't really check the other tabs
it’s very helpful if you don’t want to have the wiki or the better Hades github open in another tab and don’t know everything about everything you want to know
- https://cpecific.github.io/hades-wiki/ aforementioned github link
This is random but is it true that skelly, hades and zag share a voice actor?
If it's legit then man he has some serious range!
I love skelly sm he's funny
Though each of our games is quite different, one thing they have in common is the wonderful voice of Logan Cunningham, who's brought so many of our characters to life. Here's a special message from him, along with a brief look at the different roles he's played!
Play Hades on Switch: http://supergiant.games/hadesswitch
Play Hades on Steam: htt...
hades VA does a lot of roles tho
(timestamped for just the hades section)
Thanks for the video
I truly hope he's won some awards for his voice acting
posting this is also an excuse so you can look at his other roles 🔫
my favorite voice acting of his is from pyre ngl
Reader! dare you tamper with forbidden knowledge
Is pyre also a rogue lite?
I want to play more games like hades bc I like the concept of perma upgrades lol
No, pyre is described as a party based rpg
Hm.
I mean I love rpgs too that's my main genre.
I might play it some day!
but its more like, it has magic basketball gameplay and a lot of visual novel
please please please ple-
we always need more people
The whole gimmick is the game or story continue even after you lose, which makes for a very interesting narrative
Play pyre pls…
playing pyre is what got me the tech test access trust 💯 /j
Wait what Platform is it on?
Oh sweet so I'll Def play it eventually
I got a lot of games on my list lol
That's good enough for me depending on the price.
It's not a 60 dollar game is it?
It’s 20 dollars

Magic basketball
johnson

No way, orb
Check this out

LMAO
the sorb is wild
||sandra when you don't take her with you||
Okay I am officially sold!
yayyy I hope you enjoy it. Not for everyone but I will always recommend it
No it’s Hades II playtest withdrawl
Romancing Meg was what got me my play test 🗿🗿🗿
Omg Im bout to play more hades 2 b4 playtest goes away
I haven’t played a lot of it yet

The magic is so cool
How fast do u think EA is dropping after?
Honestly I’m like the least qualified person to playtest hades 2 but I love SG sm for sending me one
Cheered me up so fast
i AM gonna make a name for myself here 🗣️
totally not what i said in hollow knight discord before uh - not doing that
LOL i completely forgot hades had cross saves! excuse me while i go buy it on steam and transfer my switch save 😌
hmm i could transfer my switch save to mobile
oh it works for mobile? :0
is only switch/steam
ye on netflix
aaaah
and with some workaround to xbox
oh man
😭
wut
wait

thats more relevant
chat i finally got gilgamwsh 🙏🔥
boutta claw my way outta hell with this one
this is a good use of the money i got from the crunchyroll lawsuit settlement ngl
a couple months ago, crunchyroll/sony got sued cuz they were selling personally identifiable information to third parties without disclosing that publicly
and i got $30 out of it! :)
Yoo free money
alsoooo which graphics API launch option is recommended for AMD cards
i was gonna pick vulkan but i wanted to be safe and ask
is there a way to get playstation buttons to show up without disabling steam input?
i'm using dualsense btw, not dualshock
someone please remind me to NEVER use exagryph again
my fingies hurt
i was left on 1 hp with no death defiances when i beat theseus and asterius
Are you tap firing lmao
space bar 
Lmfao it do be like that
maybe i should change my keybinds chat
There's so many invincibility bugs
I mean standard dash buttons are like space bar and lshift
And idk if lshift is any better of your fingers are hurting lmao
Personally for me it works fine but I've never really played with space bar dash so idk if that would suck for me
I've only done one escape attempt with exagryph 💀 safe to say it's not my favorite weapon to use
I was watching the Hades dev docu series and the initial concept for Exagryph was Zag floating mid air while shooting rocks from his belly lol. I think Eris' aspect on the weapon makes it fun to use
hestiagryph too big brain for me even if I did a 32 with it already
I forget to reload half the time and wonder where my dps gon
also if you get skulls applying them hitshields to each other repeatedly it's literally 💀
"fun times"
hestia's generally strong and all but yeah it feels cumbersome for me to play as well
You just need to go skeet shooting a bunch with a pump-action to get comfy with Hestia!
GUNS BAD REEEEEE
Sad that i had no luck for technical test access :(
But but you're literally named Lucky
If their name was "Unlucky" they would have gotten access for sure
Take ricochet and just use it like a normal rail tbh
it makes ur attacks heavier and lets u load flares which pop out after a bull rush
downside is +10% damage taken which has never mattered
it’s the best aspect in the game
How will I take damage from it?
200 gems for 1 blood
What?
i need buy?
I'm talking about the aspect of Beowulf
How will I take damage from it?
You know what I'll just search it up
1 titan blood for 200 gems i need buy it?
idk
its a bad deal, probably shouldnt buy it
titan blood is way more valuable than gemstones
and beowulf doesnt deal damage to you directly, it makes enemies deal more damage to you
Oh damn
Also thank you
Okay I think I'll get Beowulf
"Enemies dealing 10 more damage". I can take it
10%
It's not that bad right?
Anyways how do I unlock it?
I haven't unlock that second aspect yet
And who's gonna tell me the secret words to unlock it?
Nah it’s pretty unnoticeable
I never remember that the 10% is even a thing
The downside of all time
You can’t get hit if all the enemies are dead when using Beowolf
Anyways I got all the gods invited to the house 
Me realising that Zag Twin Fists of Malphon has dodge chance 
use zag fists, hermes dodge and feather keepsake to
Just got my last achievement on xbox \o/ skelly's second statue
is this channel fine with spoilers like what are the further areas of the base game?
Yeah
oh, I cant post here images
shame. I jsut got a rare visual glitch
theseus' spear is in the arena still, and I was gonna post the image and be like "oooh, SHINY!"
it's normal for that to happen?
Happens if you kill him while mid throw
Also you can use embeds for imgs
Post in other discord > copy img link
that's annoying.
You get used to it
but at least no spamming that way
well, I inicially entered this server to ask somehting
you know when you have side hustle to get those extra coins everychamber?
well I got a few runs ago the oportunity to see it at heroic rank, after eating ambrosia
so it was 19 coins per chamber. but the pool of purging was giv9ng me an imediate 345 ubols if I sold it.
and I wondered, "is it worht it to sell it NOW?"
I had just left asphodel, so there was still elysium and the styx temple.
what would you have done?
I think I had a couple hundred? I was realy considering it, that's all I recall. so I must have had either not a lot of cash, or I was jsut intregued.
how many chambers are there in hades, at maximum?
and from there, how many in tartarus and asphodel, subtract those, multiply by 19 and we get how many coin I can get from the boon
I imagine to keep the boon until the end of elysium is best, THEN sell it.
Without styx is 52 chambers
And I don't remember if hustle procs when going to the area between regions
I didnt have many rerolls on the pool of purging at the time, so getting tht boon again would be rare. that's the 'why?' of me questiing it.
I think it does. actually, I'm gonna check that right now
huh, not only side hustle DOES ocur in those rooms, but it happens before the Golden Touch mirror power
Tbh I'd just keep it
Is not like you'll get a replacement hermes boon
But if I had underworld customs and the other options were better, to the purging pool it goes
yeah, I just calculated.
instead of checking how much money it can get all around, I checked how many chamber it would take to get to 345.
18, 19. not that many, easly doable. thus it would have been a bad idea
thanks for the insight
If the charon well was great and was missing money I think I'd also sell it
Or needed quick money for poms
Something I realized a lot is that when you have more skill, most base bosses are fairly easy. And when you’re just starting out again, it feels much more harder.
Though, Hades is just a tough game at times. You will die a lot to start with, but you’ll get better the more you play.
Obviously it’s not the same for everyone.
So, for instance, base Theseus may feel harder in your early attempts… but eventually you’ll see your skill progression improve. And after mastering most of the key strategies, you’ll get through bosses easier. It’s something I really like about the game… is the amount of variety.
But I think the most funny part: I didn’t think I would’ve come back to Hades more often than I did with other rogue games.
ETG: I come to it when I feel like it.
ROR2: Like the game a lot so I come back to it often.
Hades: almost my daily routine.
same, it'sI make 3 or 2 runs a day now, and I have gotten almost everything.
I just noticed something, if you are firing rounds of the exagriph, you see the shell on the ground, right? and they disapear each eventually, right?
well, aparently, about half of them disapear at the same time if you decide to launch the special attack.
Yeah… to my knowledge I believe.
Btw… what do you use for playing Hades?
Controller, keyboard & mouse, or something else?
If you’re on controller, I’d recommend mapping the reload button to one of the shoulder buttons.
@undone rivet
I use controller
I actually prefer to keep reload on the r3. I know it's cursed, but I'm not on habit
R3 huh… never thought about that.
What button is that again?
I use an Xbox controller btw.
right stick press
is the default reload
same controller too
Yeah… I remapped that a while ago cuz my thumbs don’t like that position at all xd
That’s just personal preference tho.
I have another topic in mind, but if you have some thought to finish, please do
what is the least used aspect?
LT is the reload input that i remapped it to :]
since I am doing runs based on the dark eminence that increases 20% of gem and darkness drops,
any of the zag aspects ig
zag sword prob?
zagsword is like the default aspect tho
true.
okay, that is not a default zag. besides, all zag aspect where used at some point for more than 3 or more times
the least used aspect would be a hidden aspect
oh yeah
I cant imagine someone using the Rama aspect often out of joy
ah, ture that
With the right build, yes.
I guess my question was flawed.
well rama is good
what I mean is, what is an aspect that is negletet, not veyr good, that is not a basic zag aspect?
well popular coincides very poorly with good
chiron is incredibly popular
and incredibly awful
gilgamesh is a hidden aspect and also the worst aspect in the game so theres that one
well, ecept for a dioisis on special build
gilgamesh is my favortie actually!
that one is real bad
tbh everyone has a different take and view on this. so it varies; keep that in mind.
the aspect strengths are not particularly subjective
bad unfortunately. that doesn't make it impossible to enjoy, though
. just don't expect to achieve things easily on such bad aspects.
the several dashes you get from it, plus the dside slashes being as powerfull as regular punches form the other aspects.
if you have a dash boon on damage, a zeus or dio on the attack, you MELT bosses
they most certainly are not as powerful
I particularly like the Demeter fist :>
huh. I see that is true
beowulf standards 
as someone with a moderate amount of experience in the game i simply do not see those two aspects as ever getting decent boss times
For example, I personally don’t like the Talos Fists.
beowolf is actually usefull? how
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mfw the best aspect in the game is good
several bugs make it the strongest in the game in many regards.
dude can you be like less of an ass when people ask questions
its insanely dismissive question
not everyone has the same game experience as you do so be patient and just answer questions nicely
you lying, how can it be that good? you take extra damage from it, you just have a big dragon rush
jazz, there are things one can just not know beforehand
and now i feel like this is just bait
because not everyone knows it's good and less experienced people dont think it's good??
as I said, it is severely bugged.
like I said: everyone has a different perspective. can we not make this a huge debate.
let me check that shield right now. a sec...
like, you know, "Mirage Shot
does apply the -70% damage on second cast" types of bugs
mirage shot does 100% instead of 30% on it for the second shot so you just have double damage
+100% damage on dragon rage damage and area.
that's it? and also the heavy moveset?
have you played hera before
are we reading the same text
second shot?
"dragon rush" only affects the bull-rush while casts are loaded
yeah, I have
mirage shot shoots another cast after your first one
what we're referring to is something different
Beowulf is legitimately busted
oh, from poseidon you mena?
https://youtu.be/srG2gEikKu4 watch a speedrun idk
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I occasionally stream over at https://www.twitch.tv/drk_frst
its pretty rare.
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beowulf is basically hera but intsead of launching the cast at the end of the arrow, the cast explodes around the end (hence why the casts on it are called "flares" instead of "shots")
yeah the duo
@undone rivet you’re still fairly new here right..?
the cast explosion is good aoe, and since the meta cast is poseidon cast, you have a massive aoe
I had mirage shot on a hera runn recently. not very good, since most shots overwent the enemy, and the secondary things didnt do more than a flod area of attack would.
even without the mirage shot bug tho, aphrodite cast does so much damage that it's extremely strong too
yes. here, not to the game.
I have all weapons aboe heat 12, max of 16 I think.
use aphrodite cast on hera, that way the cast doesnt go flying by lmao
ok… fair point.
aphro cast also does the most damage (that isn't dio) so it's a pretty perfect synergy
well, with flod it doesnt either, and has a much bigger range
flood shot on hera does fly by
it gets launched out
as if you threw it out where the arrow lands
but also flood shot doesnt have that much damage
tbf nitro and I have both experimented with flood shot hera a bit, it's not half bad for heat and is a bit easier to play outside of asphodel imo.
it's respectable but nowhere close to aphrodite
aphrodite cast range is pretty abysmal, which is why it works great on hera since it doesnt fly off into the void if you miss
it becomes a more usable extension of your arrow rather than like a projectile from your arrow
I usualy dont use aphros' shot, since I normaly dont use a shot build to begin with.
jsut recently started using poseidon's, and hera's aspect
every cast build that isn't on beowulf is a "shot build"
cast names that aren't on beowulf are by default "___ shot"
and on beowulf you have "flare builds" 
ah
i guess hera has trippy flare so that's the one exception
sorry about that, I knew about "flare"
oh beam
why does hermes not give me the boon
well no one cares about beam lmao
but not here using shot and cast
which one?
true
I don’t have Beowulf yet.
what aspect should I prioritize getting first.
ok i didnt get the hammer either so it doesnt matter
for hidden?
I dont even recall who told me of beowolf.
of course i get fountain 12 afrter that
jazz is suffering
need GY as first hidden to unlock others
beo is the best aspect in the game, rama is insanely good for heat, luci is good but needs a specific hammer for damage
yeah true
ive been failing on my aotw goals because i started actually going outside
Yeah, I have Guan Yu, Rama, and Gilgamesh.
and also playing other games
Also Arthur.
let's see. chili gave spear, atm gave bow, aster gave gloves... skelly? gave sword?
i'd go for beo next since that's the only good thing left lmao
so now im sat here with nothing for aotw lol
nyx for sword
i still want the unm sub5
dude just submit like a low 6 for aotw it's fine
I tried Arthur… it’s just ok imo.
wdym eh 
i want sub5
i can't be bothered to deal with that anymore
jazz is like that one tiger mom from a while back LOL
I would just enjoy the game lol.
I havent replayed the game.
I mena, I try once in a while to beat first time the run, but the furthest I got was ast and thes on elysium.
so I dont recall some of the original quests and storylines.
yeah that's what i've been doing lmao
whenever i have time at least
I would rather not spoil it unless you’re ok with that.
okay so Ima try out the beowolf, any recomendations?
jazz unironically would be like "You're Asian, not Bsian!" 
But at that point, I’d probably have to move towards #h1-story-discussion
poseidon cast -> artemis attack/special to open the duo -> get mirage shot duo -> win
find charged shot hammer, if you can't sudden rush is decent cope
so is feriocious guard
dash strike into your dragon rushes since it puts down the shield faster
you never want to standing strike really
ah, that's a good one, I did have a hard time with getting the shield down quick
I’d recommend checking out the site that’s pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat
flood, deadly, mirage. got it
more or less yeah
try not to open up extra duos
since mirage shot is the only important thing
what do you mena "open up"?
sneak sitting there teleporting everywhere except behind me like
as in, try not to get duo bons from eneyone else?
taking aphrodite attack would open up heart rend and sweet nectar duos
so dont take aphrodite attack lmao
so you dont "open up" other duos
yeah… it’s good to have at least one powerful or strong duo imo.
taking certain core-boons from certain gods will allow you to get certain duos. your goal is to not have that happen with anything other than mirage shot
can always check codex prereqs to make sure
and here I though any duo boon is a good boon, even if just to sell later
thank you for the advice @latent moon and everyone
i mean selling them later is fine, but you'd rather get the 1 important one you need first
so ideally it'd be like
mirage shot and then you find unshakable mettle afterwards lmao
then sell mettle if you can or whatever
or just keep it bc it's funny
coicidentaly, I got mirage shot on a run jsut before tartarus ended. hope for that luck again
just get the boons™️
jazz should try being lucky
Some of the RNG can be brutal ngl.
ill settle for the sub430
ok but tbf you're grinding for things that aren't even meant to be done, hell, the game doesn't expect anyone to go all that far below 12 minutes
I’m not even going to speed-run the game like that… I already have enough fun with heat unmodded.
unmodded heat :widecharon3:
once again, a reasonable thing to do as long as one doesn't touch 50+
50+ is where the fun is
big disagree, as someone who does not enjoy heat in general 
not gonna do that any time soon, honest.
i dont particularly enjoy heat either
but i used to play it
and like below 50 is just mega boring
im not particularly good at heat
bruh
you know FO2 and how to play some aspects, therefore you are at least pretty good at heat
what even is the point in telling you anything lmao
ive played less than like 50 hours of heat
I just want to get the all the skelly statues really… idk that’s me.
eventually u want more
yeah and I've played over 100 hours of heat yet you've achieved more than me in those less than 50 hours 
stfu you have more than 1 50 heat clear, that already counts for much
tbh… heat is supposed to add extra challenge for greater rewards. it’s supposed to be difficult.
i swear to god the amount of self deprecating you do is insane and incredibly infuriating
i just dont think ive done very much in heat
like my best unmodded heat is a random 40 heat run i did for a video
This, but I laugh anyway
you don’t have to push your limits that hard man.
so we both have not played very much heat
i know you're capable of getting unmodded 50 in like 10 runs
same with you
im too lazy to uninstall mods tbh
i dont think ive achieved much because i do not play it
good question.
in the words of Museus:
"Please work on the tone of your communication in this server."
jazz I swear to the gods, keep the self-deprecation and malding down 
jazz couldn't do it in speedcord so now they went here instead
who is jazz in this case?
vetbaitednv
oh… ok


