#h1-discussion
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I’m not playing bastion or pastistior or wtv its name is
I’m bored, no more goals
Have you gotten all achievements?
oh so i just realice that if time runs out you start losing heal xD
bro i need a god rng run... i start so bad wasting 3 rerolls in the 1º pick xDD
unmodded gaming be like 
so what do you want to play then ? /gen
because in "good action game with stellar writing and art" you can hardly do better than bastion and transistor
Something similar, prob roguelites n roguelikes, i played hades because of deadcells because they’re similar, so prob something similar to both
Alr imma try it out
It's got a ... unique ... art style.
and story
and items
and lot of things
but it still manages to be fun 🤷♂️
it is one of those games that if you parents are asking you "so, what are you playing ?" you go "uhhhhhhhhhh"
is there any way to configure a music theme for hades home and play it always i come back ?
Jokes on you I explained them the story
Nah
so, how do you feel about your disinheritance ? :p
Ok tbf I mostly went on the christian themes but still it was fine 
if i have 4 gods already and pick a god keepsake will it appear anyway? it dosnt right?
It will
Keepsakes will force regardless of pool (and the god will be added to your pool)
So now you have a 5 god pool
And with a bit of luck you can get every god in the pool. I don't think it leads to anything interesting happening though (I wish Theseus ended up with nobody answering his call in that case).
yay did it
heat 32 done >0<//
58secs left >0<
emeasures hades was the wall, i rather deal with other stuff
never did 32 on switch 🙂 feerlsss gudddd
Gg
this rama bow + zeus special is almost brainless >0< 1 buttom win...
now finally going for chill causal runs >3<
its over 60 diamons for all music i think T_T ...
i will keep playing until ||tanatos and meg bed room scene|| ^¬^ never proc it on switch, idk how many runs will it take xD
cause i played a hell lot on switch
yeah
pretty rare
in other news
you may call me jazz, because I hate this game o/-<
I love the conversation where Skully reveleas for who he was hired, but being smart enough you can guess sooner than that conversation, he have a coin on his mout 




the coin in his mouth is a tradition they used to do where they'd put a coin in a dead guys mouth so that he could pay Charon to bring him across the styx
oooh i see, didnt know >,<
congrats on coming to the right conclusion out of error though x)
What Christian themes were you able to extract? 👀
Oh wait you were probably being sarcastic
There are actually pretty heavy Christian themes in Issac
(I forgot about them now since I played the game ages ago)
Oh, I missed the context. There's a lot of imagery but almost no themes
curse of english not being my first language
me 2
me 3
yeah there's a lot of religious trauma in Isaac
Indoctrination, hell, influence of satan, whether god is loving or abusive, kindaaa forgiveness ? and absolution
I can get behind that statement
breaking wave/thyphoon's fury procs multiple times
this is the 2nd time I've seen the glitch
oh wait i just noticed the HUGE chunk of health off lol
Who needs a giant tv, if you can play hades in a vr headset. Too bad it only works as a giant screen, and not fully immersive
real hades vr would be insane, taking the pov of zag
Yeah, but that would be a really different game, just in the same setting. Lots of mechanics would not work in first-person vr
oh for sure it’d have to be retooled, if it was as fast paced as regular hades it’d be one hell of a motion sickness causing workout
it won’t happen, but it’d be neat. maybe when vr-ar tech advances
Imagine getting swarmed by poxy rats in VR
I've had five pet rats before, they liked climbing on me :D
Cuuuuute 😄
I was thinking about weapons, and surprisingly only spear spin would be problematic
Other weapons would transition more or less alright
dash maybe, too
maybe a timeslow on the dash would prevent nausea
A shield throw would be a challenge, to get right direction. Maybe aim assist, so that the shield corrects its trajectory on the fly to hit something close to the original path
or point in the general direction with one hand while pressing the throw button
Fists and rail would be the easiest. Sword is ok, except for that launch hammer
Hm, rail special aim though...
angle fired rocket launchers irl have sights on them, could implement a basic aperture sight
Yeah, or a trajectory projection. Would be a bit trickier with a hammer for x5, but doable
would be a hard playstyle to optimize for, very new tech too
my friend is a VR-AR dev at concordia working on creating a breast visualization program for her thesis, I could ask her for a demo maybe
Nah, I think that would take too long to make a demo, I don't think she would have time
I will try to make one myself
I'm a programmer and worked with unity a bit before
Yep
anyway it’s for post breast cancer reconstructive surgery
to minimize post surgery regret
That's awesome honestly
so you can see what your chest looks like after the surgery- I tried it out and it’s amazing
not finished yet tho
yup, best part is it’s extremely inexpensive to implement, aimed at clinics in developing areas
Imagine a smart mirror with that tech :D
all they need is a half decent computer and a cheap VR headset
ooh yeah
maybe she should implement that too- I’ll talk to her about it. Since you look different in a mirror vs looking at yourself
since she plans to work on it further after her thesis
Nice
Funny that I just today installed unity on my new pc, opened it, and thought that I do not have any doable project to work on
Hades vr demo will be fun to try making
ooh what specs on the PC? I’m a pc guy
Ryzen 9, Radeon 7900 xtx, 32gb ram
I went all in :D
Except for 4090, it costs way too much
hot damn, what ryzen 9?
7950X
I just bought an x570 dark and 5950x to replace my 7800x3D system I sold to a friend
pairing it with 1080ti kingpins in SLi
This baby runs cyberpunk on ultra, but I'm playing hades instead, lol
Cyberpunk is temporary, hades is eternal
Is sli still a thing?
1080tis can still run SLI but not on newer games
it’s a nostalgia system, my main is gonna be my 3070 system with a 5800x3D
until I upgrade to 9800x3D itx
Nice!
gonna try and grab a noctua 4080 super
but not for 1600 lol
I help run hardwareswap so may run into a good deal later in the year
Nvidea prices are insane. Iirc 4090 was double the price of 7900xtx
and noctua tax combined with asus tax means they want 4090 prices for their 4080
$1650 plus tax. more than a 4090 FE
standard 4080 is like 1k brand new
lel
Extreme measures Hades should be a trophy or something x,x is like the real final boss and a worth challenge.
There is one faith for minotaur and teseus with em, but not for hades 😦 ... weird
i wont do it again anymore xD
may i ask which hidden aspect or not should i max first??
beo
yea but beo
playing beo all the time is boring
save it for the speedrun attempts
use an actually interesting aspect meanwhile
non hidden, best strength increase is hestia
zagbow is good for low blood to max
For hiddens I'd say rama/luci benefit the most from levels
And gy depends on your dodging skills
overall hidden aspects don't need them too much, guan yu excluded
but yeah luci is nicer with more blood
couple days ago, ad said sandra's orb is in zag's room which made me go ??? today, i finally found it
it's... surprisingly not obvious
||it's on the shelf there right?||
i just have 12 titan blood and dunno which to lvl up
probaby i go for lucifer! it seems fun!
but beo looks great too
Personally I love aspect of Zeus
i think it is a bit slow as it spins..
Haha indeed! Personally I like chaos shield, hera bow and beo with aphro/dionysus casts and mirage shot! Also eris with dionysus attack! And liked Arthur too with shackle! I want to try more fun builds! Oh yes also Achilles spear with hunting blades was nice too
Beowulf is great indeed! I really like it! I just unlocked luci and I want to try it out! Just want to spend my titan blood at aspects that really benefit from it
level 1 hestia might as well just be aspectless rail
Do you mind explaining why? Just curious as a casual player
I think I've heard that claim before but I suck ass with shield lol
it being a shield gets access to charged shot, which makes the bull rush a piercing shot with 80 base damage, which already makes it extremely strong. it's part of the reason why shield is so good (zeus doesnt want this for heat but it's good for speed)
in general, cast builds (on the right aspects) are typically pretty strong, since with proper scaling and builds it can have insane damage. for example, achilles can get a 150% damage boost to say hunting blades, which can basically play the game for you
mirage shot is bugged on flares (all beowulf casts and trippy flare on hera) to deal 100% damage instead of 30%, so you can blow up rooms pretty fast with flood flare, which has a massive aoe
also being a shield you get a lot of safety from blocking
Thank you for the detailed explanation! I might have to revisit Beo and try it out more
Yeah it basically can consistently one shot bosses
Yay got 10 wins, moms back home
I had a run with aspect of posdion then i used anvil in Styx it gave me the lung special and cursed slash 😭
why did you anvil on sword
I wanted to try it lol
Never used anvil before that
wasnt there a boon to make ares rifts bigger ? i remember some creazy videos with it but i dont know wich boon is x.x is a duo ?
black metal
1200 darkness from 1 hades kill >0< ! 2 chaos + poseidon materials boost! over 350 jewels too >0< ❤️ !!
finally have that 25k for the theme :3
I hate the characters, stop talking about Persephone being back I NEED TO UNLOCK THE HIDDEN ASPECTS ACHILLESSSSSSS
Bru... i use 2k yewels in the constructor for a new hades trone.... and i like more the original than this 2k trash xD
shouldnt it be way more epic for 2k and a trone for the gof of tartarus ? X_x
and now you'll never use it again lol
maybe a couple times more for 100% codex completion
any way to check my movement speed % ?
dash +70%, feather +24%, speed to damage 100%, chaos dash +99%, dash hammer +50%, spped/damage after block +20%, sped after dash +100% >_<
btw im never going to use chaos shield again xD ... didnt like it at all
Dash strike +% doesn't increase speed
Also speed is multiplicative
And yes, chaos shield sucks
i know, but i got epic Rush Delivery from hermes so after each dash i got 100% speed
for 0.7 secs tho xD enough cause i just spam dash
srry my bad, wasnt rush delivery xD idk the name i play in spanish
i have epic rush delivery and epic whatever is name +speed after dodge
o,o? idk im on ps5
So about *3
is there a way to reset my titan blood on a weapon?
nop, only mirror can be reseted with keys
i think because they didnt find more uses to keys xD
how can i fARM titan blood?
doing runs with with diferent weapons. each heat lvl with each weapon are 2 bloods +1 ambrosia that can be traded for blood... but if you didnt maxed all npcs relationships or maxed meg pet i suggest to save ambrosia for now
also some challenges in the book of your room rewards you with a lot of blood
lets do a Guan yu run xD hope i dont regreat breaking my win strike >0<
First deathless run :3
Aww, I wish we could actually tend Persephone’s garden :<
I kinda doubt SGG are ever going to give us that Persephone garden sim even if we ask really nicely, so maybe someone should just mod a farming game to add Hades characters instead
I'd play it
tartarew valley
So uhhh how does one use Guan Yu, I need to escape with that aspect for the prophecy
It just seems… bad
I see
Nyaanyaa's Guan Yu Guide
Generally on Guan Yu, the hammers you want are Charged Skewer > Quick Spin > Massive Spin > Serrated Point. Breaching Skewer and Serpent Wing also alright. And Breaching Skewer becomes top priority for the second hammer if you have Charged Skewer already.
Charged Skewer shortens the startup of Guan Yu's Special a whole lot and lets you hold your Special for up to triple base damage.
You'll want Heartbreak Flourish or Deadly Flourish ideally, anyway, for the high % damage. Guan Yu's Special has 45 base damage, piercing, and wide AOE. Anything with % damage is good on Attack except Tempest Strike is unorthodox and requires fully leaning into Poseidon to make it work (though it can be effective and fun).
For optimal DPS, you're either doing Special > Dash-Strike x2 or Cast > Dash-Strike x2 with Guan Yu. Cast for single-target, Special when you can hit multiple enemies with it (or if you have Charged Skewer). And just your Special and reposition if it's enough to one-shot things (which it often is if you have Charged Skewer).
There are two ways to charge the spin: from a normal Attack and from a Dash-Attack. 99% of the time you want to charge from a Dash-Attack. And there are three ways to release a spin: let go of Attack, Dash, and Dash-Attack. Letting go of Attack is the safest method and how you want to release it most of the time. It's also usually the best method for keeping the spin on your enemy. Releasing with a dash gives you i-frames and a lot more range for the spin, but it travels faster. You mainly use that to quickly escape a situation or to throw your spin at very far-away enemies. And releasing with a Dash-Attack gives you the extra range that a Dash gives but without any of the i-frames, but the benefit is that you can immediately charge a new spin. This method is the most aggressive and best for DPS, and it can keep you within the Deflect spin if you happen to use Divine Strike.
Reading SCP articles have trained me for these
Still, I don’t see how Guan Yu is overall competitive against other spear aspects, but then again I’ve played it a whopping 1 time and died at Elysium before the boss
Is basically a weird bow
Or hestia rail
(also obligated to mention is one of the 3 aspects that has done 64 heat)
Ah
With a spin build 
For now I’m gonna do 0 Heat runs cause I just realizied I forgot to do these with the other weapons
Howwwwww
The spin feels so weak
Hypermodded : forced second hammer (massive spin), and Hermes control (roughly 1/3 chance to get greatest reflex). All others settings are the same as the normal modded game.
Mac glitch : the spin release can deflect almost everything on screen. You can see it clearly at 9:15. This mechanic also works with Rocket bomb and Athena special.
I use...
I'm watching this video, finally
and bruh
Can you get a swap for a core if that core is already heroic ? Because the swap ares attack on the last boon of the run would have been so 
Nah
good to know
but yeah damn that run is nuts
unsurprisingly
I swear I would have shat a whole house in the EM4 fight with the pots
bru i almost lost my win strike T0T ... 23 hp left >0<
Nicte keep giving me dialoges after 1 of 2 missions, i told it before but i repeat, is the npc with more dialoge lines by far xD
Damn, the sword's special pose looks hella uncomfortable. Tried to roughly reproduce it irl, even ignoring the spin the final position with the sword in the ground is tough
if i take off hermes feather keepsake i keep the bonus i have till this point right ?
oh so is a forever keepsake D: does the same happen with the butterfly ?
Yeah
glad i ask, i did change them previosly in other runs xD ... what a waste >0<
get the trophys tho x_x
Artur is slow tanky but hit like a TRUCK, i just did 1300 on teseus in his back >0< crit ofc
wtf? Dusa get fired? never saw this interaction on switch D:
time to do a huge catch run for the sturgeon
Teseus🙁
neither really
Base flood at least seems better to pair with beaver ig
Iirc the shards from blizzard aren't buffed by cast dmh
Best girl
after a full 2 week break, im back at it, to lose to second phase hades for more 15 times probaly
actually i think its been a month
2 duos in a row, blessed run
You can do this
poseidon cast poseidon sword is surprisingly good
never got that one
oh yeah sorry I was answering to Noob
but yeah pos cast gave me a 40 heat win on pos sword
NO WAYYYYY
Did you win?
GGGGGG

twin fast 5 dash combo was so good
GG ! 
and yeah Hermes is the GOAT
except when he scams me
multiple times in a row
while taking all my rerolls
and money
but y'know
except for that case that happens 99% of the time
he's the GOAT 
if it wanst for this 5 dash, i would've lost
Perfectly balanced
literally saved me five times
perfect name
rush deez
average hermes experience
bruh everything was gone in a literal blink of a eye
who is actually clicking that link ever though
i was looking at it, and it disapeared
like what audience does that net
that person is prob spamming in every single server they can, prob someone enters at some point
can you choose your rank icon somehow (prestige Resource director icons) ... i'm lvl 4 but looks worst than lvl 1 or 2 😦
i need like 5k darkness to make it look cool again T_T...
the only way is up
o well... guess ill stop with the next blue or bone icon so
5k is not that bad
350k for the final one is goat tho, totally worth >,<
there is no way to trade items for darkness right? i only see poor special offers sometimes
but like 50 darkness
there's 50 for 1 nectar/500 for 1 ambrosia
ok, not a big deal but is fine... i dont need much more ambrosia/blood
im not going to use the weapons i didnt lvl .... i even leveled to max chaos shield and i totally regreat xD
i have the good ones already maxed x,x
@mint coral any point on keeping a god keepsake if you already have it in your pool? (besides the 20% rarity) will him appear more ?
if you need a duo from them yeah
oh wait
nah
misread as swapping to one you already got
no, i start with zeus and just get 1 boon, he's on the pool now but i want more zeus stuff... but even with the keepsake he will appear the same rng times right?
yeah you don't get more forced boons
i'm wondering if it's worth to not have a god keepsake for tartarus and just match whatever god you get to get another boon from them
because most god's second tier boons synergize with the core boons
on some aspects you can start shackle and do that
i just become the thunder lord >,< missing the legendary tho 😦
120 excape attemps and Nicte keeps talking >0<
bro floor 32 and still no hermes boon, wtf x,x
did it get erebus'd or smth
get the 1º in floor 34, skip a couple of hermes cause chaos, aiming for %matrials X_X need toons of darkness :))
i dont think i will play so much, im pretty much done
i have companions i like maxed, others at 3, weapons i like maxed with a couple of extra cause why not xD, all music buy, and all decos... indeed im wasting crystals already in things that i can not put cause overlap with others xP
need 1 more extra rare fish from hades arena for the codex T_T ... idk why i manage to keep ultrares in other places but always mess it up in the last map
im so adicted tho... xDD i love it, i did hate 32 and some under 10 runs, now i just play ffun
does deadly reversal allow crits with everything, or only stuff that already has a % chance to crit?
iirc there's like certain things that can't crit, but i dont remember what those things are
but otherwise it's basically just pressure points
pressure points with a bigger number and a caveat
NICE
well I took it and finally cleared elysium for the first time today
like 3 hours of playing poseidon on 40 heat
ended up doing lighning phalanx build
if I can roll mirage shot in styx I am GOOOOD
repeat heat lvls dosnt reward with more darkness from bosses right? heat 0 to farm darkness is the way to go ?
why make it faster?
em2 since the arena is smaller, fo2 bc enemies spawn faster, and td to remove tartarus survival rooms
so you can do more runs
to farm more darkness
There's some stuff like ER, piercing wave and dmg instance of hoarding slash that can't crit even with pp
somehow no artemis in styx, 3x zeus in the shop lol
whats is fo2 ? and td 1-3? srry im spanish xP
forced overtime and tight deadline
em - extreme measures, didnt know about the others <,<
but i got a hermes and 2 rerolls to get either greater recall or rush delivery
the abbreivations are just the first 2 letters of the pact names
i got greater recall LETS GO
but i dont know the names of them in english ^^
thanks for the tips i will do that way!
oh lmao that would make sense
forced overtime is the +20% speed for enemies
tight deadline is the timer per biome
styx tunnels with lightning phalanx + greater recall lmao "hold right click simulator"
Fo dosnt make they do more damage too ?
and it apply to bosses, idk if i will run it xD
they dont technically deal more damage
they just attack faster
so you have to react faster
i see, i missunderstod the description i guess
it does mess up your internal timings that you already have, but it can be nice to learn
so you would get hit more while getting used to it lmao
i get hit a lot usually, specially in bosses xD ... elites and other stuff are not a big deal but i like to spam attacks hard xD
i wish that chaos egg keepsake garanted a chaos spawn 😦 ... so i can aim for those % materials runs easy...
i dont wanna break my win strike tho xP so w/e ...
sigh. I lost to hades
couldnt get special to hit when all my bloodstones were in like three times in a row while i framing off call
he did like 150 damage to me during that time
was so close too
120 runs and still no trio romance in my room :(((
trio romance?
interaction with romanced characters yes... keep giving them those nectars and ambrosia >0</
its random, it took me a good while to get it. once you max them both out its possible
how does "Rush Kick" hammer interact with "Demetter" twin fists ?
It shoots 5
according to reddit, with rush kick it hits 7 times with 40 base damage instead 30
Idk the damage numbers tbh
but also they mention that miss some hits cause the diferent animation and the hit boxes
🤷♂️
yeah it'll hit 7 if it's a standing special, if you dash special it'll be 6
the thing with the animation and hitboxes no clue
and ngl idk how much i trust reddit on that one lmao
well i try it and i think there were better options for this run <,< still good
is prob just slightly more base dmg ig?
no yeah is just this lol
ig the real upside is the movement
ive beaten Than like 4 times, how have i still not unlocked his hearts 😭
does the related conversation happen after a victory or at the house?
hi, anyone played hades on mobile?
weird, i did buy everything avalible in the Trone room tab, in the constructor, but it dosnt have the "V" check like the canteen or the music o.o ... there may be something i didnt unlock
idk if stay at Alpha fixer or Gamma x_x ... i dont like any of the others
Is there an issue, orrrrr
Oh yeah, what exactly is needed to renovate the longue for Dusa?
probably have to buy things from other tabs to unlock stuff from that tab
yep, i check the wiki.
The last thing i buy unlocked a statue and a fountain for the west part, i buy the statue, the fountain is another 3k cristals... but it unlocks a 2º fountain for the hall D: T_T
i want to start Re4r but i cant stop playing hades T0T
i have 122 excape atemps, over 90h, around 60k darkness... and the last title ask for 350k darknes in total xD will be awsome but i think is to much T_T
half or more of that runs were geting materials, no farming darkness tho... with good rng and %materials from chaos and poseidon you can make 2k per run x,x still a hell lot of runs
the more i get once was 1200 darkness just from hades >3< wish was always like that xD
i also never farmed darkness, getting the title doesn't matter to me, and i still have... well last time i checked it was 300-something hours
it's a good game, dw
Hey guys
I maxed out every dark skill in the mirror of night except FATED AUTHORITY and PRIVILEGED STATUS
Should i max them or max out yellow skills?
And if i max out yellow skills what should i max first?
?
Also im very bad at the game
I die on stupid things
Like the first boss or second one
I did reach hades second phase tho:)
You want fated persuasion
By upgrade order (meaning Fiery presence is the top upgrade and fated persuasion is on the bottom of the mirror)
Fiery presence, cthonic regen, death defiance, greater reflex, boiling blood, infernal soul, deep pockets, thick skin, family favourites , dark foresight, gods pride, fated persuasion
let me
mentally
double check that list
Fiery presence > Shadow Presence
for room-to-room damage, you can consistently one or twoshot more enemies and no “just positioning better” is not a good alternative to just hitting them from your initial direction
Cthonic regen > Dark Regen
Cthonic extremely consistent, meaningful hp regen where dark regen is almost always little to nothing inconsistently or a huge chunk when you already have a fountain immediately after a boss fight
Death defiance > stubborn defiance (for now).
If you are consistently getting through most regular rooms without dying, death defiance is your friend (for now), extra lives against bosses tend to become more important (for now)
Greater reflex > Ruthless reflex.
You have a better shot at avoiding damage by just having a second dash rather than relying on the 50% chance post nearmiss, and a 2nd dash is a dps double on 90% of weapons alongside the extra mobility and positioning potential
Boiling Blood > Abyssal blood
because killing enemies faster is a great form of defence, and it’s a minor time commitment to cast that will greatly reduce your time spent in the tankier fights
Infernal Soul ≈ Stygian soul.
Unless you’re using a castpect, then you want to use infernal soul unless your casts last >3s (trippy shot, trippy flare, dem cast)
It’s personal preference whether or not you want to be able to shoot 3 or just have 1 recharge you don’t have to chase on weapons/aspects that aren’t cast focused
Deep pockets > Golden Touch
Money early >>> money later.
Tartarus is the place to solidify your build, and so being able to make purchases from tartarus shops is super valuable. You also want to spend money soon after you get it to get the most value as possible, with the exception of holding out for 500 obols on a 3rd hermes from styx or well items
Thick Skin > High Confidence.
High confidence probably won’t ve doing much for you for now, so I’d just take thick skin so you survive longer. High Confidence is useful for speedrunning but right now you’re just trying to figure out Hades at all & that damage boost isn’t going to get much mileage this early
Family Favourite > Priviledged Status.
Family favourite is immediate, and applies to every hit, and isn’t even that much lower then priv status when you hit your 4 olympians + hermes
where priv status only applies after 2 different status curses, meaning the enemy has to survive 2 hits and have 2 different status curses in your build for it to be viable
works with hangover builds & that’s about it
Dark Foresight > Olympian Favour.
Dark Foresight may be unclear in what it does, but essentiallt what it does is increase your odds at seeing gold laurel rewards (in-run boosts and upgrades), and decreases the odds of seeing blue laurels (out of run currency) by the same amount
This upgrade is stupid powerful
having loads more boons, obols and hearts goes a lot farther than 20% rare chance
Gods Pride > God’s legacy.
Duo boons are plenty common as is, rarity on your important boons (and particularly chaos and hermes) goes a long way
This is build dependent but typically even duo reliant builds take god’s pride for the rarity boost
Fated Persuasion > Fated Authority.
Hermes alone makes rerolls super valuable. Throw in chaos as well, and you’ve got a deadly arguement for persuasion. And then you remember that you could theoretically use the rerolls to reroll regular boons, purging pools, and charon wells so monopolise your build
Wherr
Authority just says “hey you get a random shot in the dark at a new room if you didn’t like this one I guess”
so
That’s me concluded
I hope that insight helps but I’m honestly worried about how cohesive it is when it’s this late at night for me
99.9% of people start of Hades bad at Hades
dw
It takes time to get better
that’s how skills work
Keep at it and ask questions
btw shackle there's a mirror guide pinned in #h1-for-new-players if you ever want to just like link/paste that lmao
And the answers to the rest of your questions probably won’t be me sending a wall of text at you
I like doing it myself 
Also I came here to expend energy since I took my adhd meds (a stimulant) about 5 hours later than usual so I’m probably going to be wide awake for an extrs 5 hrs
oh based carry on
Well like I initially missed them in the morning
And then realised about half an hour before I had to go to work
That I hadn’t taken them
So I weighed my options and decided to take them
And so I decided to come back to my favourite pastime of spreading Hades information
Although I figure there won’t be much info to spread
Given
It’s like 2:24am for most NA residents
and that’s likely the largest chunk of active ssg discord users
if its too late i think its recommended to not take them and just wait for the next day/time
but. we ball
Yeah but my job kind of requires my attention
or more specifically
my ability to regulate that crap
oh this was definitely an abnormal case
but I wasn’t about to make it 2 shifts in a row without my adhd meds
Last one was rough without them and I figured I’d rather take them late & suffer the consequences post shift
Now it’s 2am and I’m nowhere near sleeping
Can’t find my switch so it may be RoR2 time
Will doing the prophecy for escaping with every Mirror perk work even if I haven’t upgraded the perk at all
I am an abyssal true believer
At least for learning boss fights anyway
I don’t think so 🤔
I die inside Everytime I exit a room and I see a gold jar I missed
mood
I'm honestly surprised Zagreus doesn't have a voiceline for when you miss a gold jar or fish
There should be one, but only to taunt you in the next room over
“Oh. I missed a treasure jar. Whoops.”
oh yeah, that's what I meant
DAMN Excalibur is good
Another has been converted
Like with Arthur there’s just… no input, just spam attack and special and that kills like most of everything, plus the health bonus so I dont need to prioritize chimera hearts early?
I like heavy weapons and swords so it's my fav by far 
hmm ackshually they're centaur hearts 🤓

Sorry I’m getting all the terms mixed up
My brain is currently focused on watching Dun Meshi and can’t speak Hades rn
arthur to gy:
Ok, but now you have Guan Yu, your health is now 0.111
And that’s ok because it’s one of the safest aspects
I now curse you with every Chaos bane at once
Tbh don't get hit 
GG 
it's still not ok lol
It’s kind of ok
As long as you aren’t losing more than 50% of your default hp every room in one instance, you can heal back up
idk how on earth I beat it, my rng was so bad that run
I guess when in doubt, keep pomming your cast?
Even when not in doubt
Also, is posideon the only castspect that uses infernal soul instead of stygian?
I thought beo was always only trippy? As in no other casts being near as good as trippy on beo
I'm trying to clear 40 with achilles rn
Trippy has a higher damage ceiling but takes mega rng to reach
Stones upon stones
I got 40 done with shield, rail, sword, only spear and fists remain
I don't think either will be as hard as poseidon was for me
Beo likes flood flare best since it’s a mirage shot prereq so you’re close to 2x damage anyways
Also having to find at least one of the mirage gods in tart
in the past my strat for achillies was to go stygian, start artemis and take ares or demeter cast (whichever shows first), go for duo, get as many extra stones as possible
Yeah blades comfy even with infernal
Yeah
I'd probably start Ares for better poms and eventually reset for higher rarity cast
easier done with Guan-Yu
😌
easier done with 10th clear 
I love you thanks for all that work typing:)

Favor is 40% btw
I maxed out family fav and fiery presence andthe rest are maxed out except dark foresight and last one because I don't have enough darkness for it
Do u guys think i should upgrade megaera companion battie or save the ambrosia?
yeah it's common in early runs
I mean, do you have something particular in mind for saving the ambrosia towards ?
I don't know
I only used it for megaera companion battie
And got another one with 10 nector in the shop it was limited offer
also btw are any of the decorations other than the work orders functional?
hm alr
In the house its cool but it will not help u
then you can use it on battie, no problem
hlo guys, when will hades be on sale on steam?
No clue, but it goes on sale relatively often so you shouldn't have to wait too long
I see, I hope it comes on sale as soon as possible
but like do you have any estimated idea
its gone on sale on steam 9 times in the last year
last year it was on sale for spring sale (march), a random sale in mid april, and summer sale (june)
in elysium, just got hunting blades to combine with mirage shot, got 3 casts on stygian with quick reload
unfortunately not getting patrocles might cost me
awh man
Ooooo
yep, it cost me
i hope it comes on sale in april
i assume it wont go 3 full months with no sale
hades 2 early access is expected in the next couple months so that might affect things
Can’t be bothered to remembwr
also is there a way to participate in hades 2 early access?
when its released it should be on the steam store
if you're on pc you can just buy the game lmao
it just wont be available to console basically
i think that's on like their faq page or something
iirc it says mac and windows
how much will hades 2 will be?
expected price?
damn expensive 💀
I will go with hades I atm when it comes on sale
complete it
if i like the first one, i will go ahead and buy the second one
uh wait really? eyeing the steam deck i bought specifically for hades 2 ea
im sure itll be playable at least
It still uses steam so ur fine
just re-read it, the faq only says ea will release on steam and epic game store, no info about requirements
steam deck runs on linux tho?
At most it won't be like "approved/expected to work" for a while ig
req is pretty high
i dont really know how it works but im pretty sure steam deck can run most windows games bc of proton
it will work
stem deck has got pretty decent specs
yea i dont think thats a concern, mainly just compatibility
the world if i ever got good rng ever
As a switch gamer that’s cheap 
Given Hades is ~$30-40 CAD i’d assumed the same for Hades 2
i mean hades 1 for $25 is already much cheaper than most games out there of similar quality lmao
i doubt it'd go past $35 tho
nintendo prices are brutal
buying TOTK was physically painful (worth it though)
im so spoiled by indie games and steam sales lol
Was worth for sure
i saw it once for 40% off and it was so uncharacteristic of nintendo i thought i was being scammed
didnt pick it up and idk if i regret it or not
maybe it was botw actually. or both
i got botw 30% off a few years ago so that wouldnt surprise me too much
I cleared 40 heat with fists on my 2nd attempt lol
so much easier than with sword
only spear remains
twin fists full artemis challenge 50 heat
is it just me that instead of holding with any weapon, just spam M1?
all of us at first xD
I noticed how much I was mashing only when I tried 32 heat, and then at 50 heat I noticed I was still mashing, albeit less
i just noticed that i could actually hold for attacking, but im too acustomated with m1 spam, bc of how the attacking looks
Sounds like someone played too much machete + pistols in Bastion heh
People who mash fists/rail attack scare me 
Less so for fists cuz iirc is better for heat but still
is it easy to install the speedrunner modpack? so sick of having runs stolen by not getting patrocles
yes, but speedrunning modpack doesn't change patroclus odds afaik
instructions are on speedrun.com
I never heard of any mod doing that 
runcontrol lol
why are you relying on patty for your runs lmao
patty should be insurance, not a reliance
it's prob so you dont accidentally dash strike when you want to dash
but also i've never really seen anyone talk about high heat fists strats
wow demeter sucks
you're not obligated to use fists you do know that
If I got +40% speed from hermes then got rush delivery 100, does that mean I always have that full 40 regardless of what I do?
SWEET THanks
dad fight time, wish me luck
got a 40 heat lightning phalanx achillies build
and cold fusion on attack
Ah the sweet silence, I should have done this ages ago
Bro.. i start the run and didnt pick any standar attack boon... now im on styx and still no standar attack boon and no rerrols... 1 demeter 2 afroditas and none give me standar attack wtf... in styx !!
guess is what happen when you get 4 chaos rooms instead normal rooms... i also only have 1 hermes and 1 hammer. . .
bro im totally buged or what? another demeter, no attk boon
wtf
you prob have special/dash/cast open as well
and you're just losing the 50/50 or whatever the odds are for priority boons lmao
i have ares special, afrodita das and poison call x.x other are just support boons
i was attempting to do a hyperrush delivery run so im with the feather all the time, glad that atleast i got some damage from chaos X_X
46.6% dodge >,<
finally get atk from the last god icon T_T thanks god
Bold of you to assume it won't just be another aspect being hated on
i get another 20% dodge from my 2º hermes + 26 from feather keepsake
true
your beloved zag shield is next
when she decides to grind zag shield for speed then yeah i wouldn't be surprised
it's pretty ass for speed
i only use zag shield bc it's good for heat and it's super easy to use
zeus takes too much brain, my hestia timing isn't great, rama is hard, and guan yu is weird
same with zeus
haha that's real
honestly zeus is such a mindset change of how I play the game that i can't function on any other weapon without substantial detox
Can't wait for the sub6 all aspects grind 💀
horrifying
i struggle to imagine why anyone would play zag shield for speed
if ur good enough to be going for sub7 all aspects you probably would not be playing zagshield that long anyways
i mean yeah but point still stands
also considering chaos plays the same as zag shield anyways lmao
I tried chaos shield thinking it would help
It didn't help
I'll stick with Zeus
138 runs... still no trio interaction in my bedroom T__T
I got the meg prompt and was like oh why not
I regret
xD
Wait for dusa :)))
I haven't given her the ambrosia yet 
No, you don't lose your streak
Hlo
Ah, well it's expensive for me ya know, 1100 rupees lol
i'm once again waiting for the holy words for the fists
last time it took me 3 months to get them
i'm already at a solid week
Really? That long?
I got them almost a week ago I'm on like escape 82
yeah stupid butterfly ball
143 runs for the ||trio|| interaction TuT ... #h1-story-discussion message ~my true ending xD !
congrats
will hades ever be on android? :(
its my favourite game and i dont have ios :((((((((((((((
I hate the Witches Circle with the magma Pact thingy
It’s just so easy to accidentally go in the magma
Asphodel is like 700% worse now 😭
Oh wait the rush pact’s timer stops at Than encounters, nice
Yeah yesterday I entered chamber 12 with about 15 seconds left, ended up getting thanatos, because of that was able to clear tartarus and eventually beat the run too
Not relying on him, but that so much more often than not I end up beating dad on high heat when I get him
Like when I got my career best 44 heat last week with zeus shield, I had patty but got late chamber sack so I lost him before dad, but still beat him without even triggering defiance
yes
Yeah they hit for 150 on heightened security
I can't remember if that's with hard labor at 100% or off, but either way it's brutal and basically makes sure footing mandatory
HL does not affect traps
hs is free heat
do yall ever die to megaera just to be nice
That's what I tell myself
LMFAO
i just feel bad sometimes
its not so much about that she wants to kill me, but she wants to win
No, I spam Battie just to show her that her pets doing well before I obliterate her tho
is the comment with zeus saying "maybe we should go around telling people im ur father" a reference?
ohhh persephone and zeus is zagreus' real parents according to google
Not real parents but just one of many versions
omg persephone is zeus' daughter im crying
what does this mean? like different interpretations?
Yeah
ohh right i forgot
there are a lot of different versions and retellings of greek myths
Greek myths say literally anything tbh
also Hades was sometimes called Zeus of the Underworld, which put more confusion into the myths and translations (as if it needed more)
Zagreus is Dionysus, but also maybe Hades
that makes sense now that you guys are saying that but also confusing 💀
Or maybe he’s his son?? We don’t know! We’re following 3 Houses with the family tree, the selfcest loop!
I thought you can't use battie against the sisters?
You can’t, I just wanna believe Zag shows Battie a bunch to Meg and lets her pet them before he kills her
Lol
Oh my gosh oh my gosh what if Alecto has a crush on Zagreus and is expressing it the only way she knows like a kid suffering puppy love
i can see her being sorta... envious (?) of meg but i really really don't think she likes him
in other news, i just had a 50 heat run i thought i could win but then i got... savior shield guys in elysium
saviors should just be illegal smh
Replace with double bruiser 🙏
Gimme hades mobile on android :(
what was the boon again that made every pom twice as good?
just get it in the tartarus last room in my last run >,< ! get +16 gold per room and kill Caron.... just buy everything on the way geting all epics... D: i record my battle against hades but didnt upload it cuase i died XD i just spam asf
hades art style is so purty i like how they draw bodies
thanks guys
does mom pom progress even without a boon to pom?
e. g. if you go 2 rooms without a boon then pick one up, how long until it gets pommed?
and will it carry over if you take it off then put it on?
Can't use a keepsake again once equipped off
right yeah lmao forgot basic game mechanics
does heart rend combo work with aph attacks against non-weak enemies or do they have to be weak from something else beforehand?
the later most probably, since it says "critical hits do more damage to weak enemies"
It works on second hit if aphro attack basically
Generally aphro>arty because crits are inconsistent and arty base % isn’t great
Arty mostly useful when you have a strong base damage already and your crits become disproportionately stronger
PP+HM is very strong though so arty in the build is gaming, esp with hunter dash
I much prefer artemis zagbow start because it's easier to get HM, and doesn't need to be high rarity
Dash can be aphro dash for heart rend, athena for deadly reversal, or just arty
Arty atk bow ain't that bad bc you have twin/triple
True
Was trying to do heart rend on zag bow and now it turned into a cast build
Got +1 cast twice from chaos and the double pom thing, so now got 3x flood shot purple level 4 lol
But can still use bow between
Why is Dusa’s Ambrosia cost so high 😭
Gotta restock the lounge
Anyways, I now have every aspect code except for I think the gun
Also, what are good strats for catching legendary fish?
I look for the flash in my peripheral vision! I also count the number of bobs since a bite is guaranteed after however many
after 3 fakes, the 4th is always real
I’ll remember that the next time it waits for the 4th time instead of going at the 1st bloody bite
once i learned to cover the bobber with my hand and to only catch the second i see the flash, it was over for all those fishies
How do you react so quickly to the damn flash 😭
a lifetime of anxiety has prepped me to jump at the slightest light
I think I’ve resigned myself to the fact that I’m never catching a Legendary fish, my reaction time is just too slow
turn up the volume to 300% and close your eyes when you fish so you jumpscare yourself
Don't overthink. Just prime yourself to press when you get the right stimulus
I think we should get a fishing simulator mode in Hades just to practice, we can get some generic fishing music, Poseidon is just chilling doing backstroke
I suppose if you get a first room fishing spot you could abuse "Give Up" to practice
RNJesus rules dictate that will never happen to me within the next 786 years
Ok yeah I got a perfect catch, but failed the 50/50
Lmao
rip
Is there a name for that special enemy condition that makes them get more damage controls
savior
Wasn't even running it (zag bow still), on a new run, got to an elysium room, got the archer enemies that all had it.
I basically just gave up, I had no chance
It's so crap with some aspects lmao
real
TIL Asterius can stop his rush attack by hitting Theseus, tho it doesn’t deal damage to either
It might deal damage to Theseus but the damage is so small you probably didn't notice it
Not saying it does, but that could've happened considering Theseus can get damaged by his own god call stuff iirc
arent this gilgames fist kinda broken ? all you have to do is start with poseidon dash and dash trough tartarus x,x
Splash gilga has a fair bit of cleanup and is a simple build, but by no stretch of the imagination would I call gilgamesh "good". I enjoy the aspect a lot, but it's definitely not broken.
its garb
127h ... finally everything buyed in the constructor T0T
not, defently not broken
127h and still new dialoges x,x ... not much tho
has anyone played hades on mobile?
yeah the trails but not in the trails exacly like is there after effect for the trails
No once they happen the gods are chill
Normal odds for everything after that
Ohh I see I see thank you
What's the best jarritos flavor
Yeah, but on td3 it's basically gg for me
Hello guys, this question may be for the staff (or not). I wish to buy some Hades goodies, are those on fangamer.com the only existing ones?
...............
currently and for the foreseeable future, its only on fangamer if youre looking for official merch. there's a lot of fan made merch on places like etsy though they should be in limited quantity as per the merch policy
Thanks!
I see a lot of options on Displate, I dont know if it's an official partnership or what's their rights on this, but it looks awesome
any official art that is on displate, redbubble and other such site are not legit and shouldnt be supported
Ohhh ok 😦
What’s wrong with redbubble?
as i said, when its official art and not fan made prints thats just stolen
CHAT 
I just beat my very first 32 Heat run!!!
It also happened to be my 100th clear 
yay! neat numbers
What heat would you guys say "high heat" starts at?
32
I feel like 32 is probably the standard answer, though imo it depends a lot on what different conditions you employ
32 is the generally agreed upon value for high heat
A few months ago I would've never thought a 32-Heat clear would've been possible for me, but I was able to do it by practicing a lot with conditions that weren't as difficult imo
32+ is pushing past what the game recognizes so it’s a good blanket answer
yeah
i guess
its a lot harder if you have a bad pact/build/aspect
but with the right setup it can be harder to lose than win
fair enough
The answer is going to be different for everyone though
thats probably how good heat players feel about 50 heat lol
in terms of what the community recognizes its always 32
even if most of us here find it easy
I still think you need at least good knowledge of enemy patterns and skill at avoiding their attacks
if you've got time to do that run, you've got time to learn enemy patterns on TD3 FO2
the immortal td2 first 32 with a td3 time
i remember being so sad about the 1 death between my first win and the rest of them
what streak did i get to anyways before swapping profilse
thought it was like 130 something
oh man i remember when i would run smair every hestia run
because nyaanyaa said it was the best duo
That’s fair
going through these old victory screenshots is crazy
50 24/24 is one of the more common heat goals so I would tentatively say yeah
i thought i was so good after that first sub6
50+ is high for me
oh yeah i started an all aspects 40 heat project
i got through a grand total of 2
i have more aspects at 50 than 40 lol
at 40 i think i have beo hestia chaos and zagsword
anyways sorry for derailing everything
bruh
we're in the hades discord
in the discussion channel
how the hell do you think talking about your past runs derails anything ? 
ur gonna skip the ones that are already 50 right 
i wanted to 45 on as many aspects as possible but it's such a daunting time commitment
i settled for one 45 clear per weapon
Guys do you know the name of the river of Asphodel in game?
isnt it phlegethon
That's what I thought, not sure :x
Interesting thing, is that after i beat a boss, beating it again is 5x easier
is this intentional or is it more confidence or something like that?
like i beat the game once after 2 months, and then 3 times in 4 runs
you got better
And something I noticed in this game is that you often get better without knowing how
moved recently and i thought i somehow lost my hades shirt
it has been found 

me waiting for hades to come on sale: 💀
I bought the game like $13
For the best game ever, that's really nothing
I have 695 rupees
Waiting for it to come on sale
its been forever lol
well erm, for me its alot ya know
Just traded in a bunch of games and gamestop and got 240 (could only get the 200 in steam cards atm) SO I CAN FINALLY GET HADES ON STEAM YIPPEE
200 dollar-?
goddamn
lets go fr
Ill get a pic of the games i traded in
preemptively, you cant send images in the chat but you can embed links from discord, imgur etc
Oh i cant send anything here
lol
rip
Rip nvm ig
Meh its fine
do you know how to unlock these abilities in the mirror of nyx
Fated Authority
fated Persuasion
I mean just unlock the mirror with keys? Like you did with the rest of the mirror lmao
remove that heat modifier and try again
already done
routine inspection locks off the bottom 3 skills from the mirror.
how do they unlock?
I mean, remove the pact, then it's same as any other skill
fwiw the two you listed are the very last line of the mirror
How do you remove the pact?
you go to the pact and just disable the routine inspection option
yeah the code actually justs divides the max hp number by 5 after you beat them
That’s how beo bosses so quickly
We’re dirty liars
i wonder which is more tolerable, 32 heat sub530 or 40 heat sub6
its so satisfying to 5s kill theseus. Because it was the main cause of me temp quitting the game
Accidentaly made a strong cast combo
Help when I try to open Hades on steam deck it says to choose a launcher
"Play Hades (DirectX - Default)"
"Play Hades (Vulkan - Steam Deck)"
What do i do
I dont know pc stuff i dont know what either of these are
Just pick either. Doesn't really matter
They're different graphics APIs. If you don't know, then don't worry about it
Only switch if you encounter issues with whichever you choose
So different graphics qualities?
Not necessarily. Ideally no differences
Hmm
The fan is going a bit loud for how low graphics this game is
Yeah it never made my switch this hot
And theres no graphics settings
Maybe i should change the resolution in the steam settings?
It doesn't really matter too much but I've played with both and I think Vulkan is better. It feels smoother in a way I can't really explain, to the extent that it might be placebo. Either way the difference is negligble.
