can we have a single day without avalanche picking fights for no reason
#h1-discussion
upper wolf
nocturne kelp
Idk
jaunty sparrow
This is normal for him?
upper wolf
yeah
nocturne kelp
Yeah, ig
maiden narwhal
can we have a single day without avalanche picking fights for no reason
lmao i didn't pick a fight?
and if you didn't see a reason you're blind
anyway
steep condor
one day soon, the adhd racoons will come for you
mint coral
wtf was that darkness
Blindness attack
steep condor
not if they see what you say about them online
mint coral
the strat is to get the brightness setting go up, is normal it looks fine trust
maiden narwhal
you're... an idiot
maiden narwhal
~~the strat is to get the brightness setting go up, is normal it looks fine trus...
did it deactivate my special and cast?
i didn't mind the darkness but i completely panicked when i couldn't special
mint coral
No?
maiden narwhal
but i was stuck in a corner so possibly i was trying to cast it against structures
ok
@mint coral should i be forcing poseidon for asphodel?
i've got doom on eris special
the last run i had tdash and sea storm and +3 and still lost i can't even...
mint coral
What run is this
maiden narwhal
32 em4
mint coral
Yeah I'd go for dash
maiden narwhal
cool
i destroyed heroes without acorn, and coinpurse let me buy the big boon in styx, so that worked out well enough
i had aphro special then tho
maiden narwhal
tail end of phase 3, one hit took 100 hp wtf
ok now there really is nothing left to do
nocturne kelp
Congratulations ‼️‼️
stiff obsidian
push more heat
last veldt
Resources director...
steep condor
just went through all satyr tunnels only to find out they don't always have a purging pool🥲
unless i just missed one, which is possible because of the adhd racoons that ate my brain
need that legendary purging steam achievement
mint coral
Play a new file until the forced huge catch 🧠
lavish sorrel
Play a new file until the forced huge catch 🧠
play game on run 1 for higher 
odds since less gods show up, no calls, and less boons gotten for a higher chance to purge the right thing 
jaunty sparrow
Guys
I stroke cerberous every time im in hades hall
W or L
Anyway
Time for an actual run
Achilles spear, zeus attack, artemis special, ares cast, athena dash and dio call
With flurry and triple jab
Nvm runs ruined
HOW
I hate this game
It sees me tryna do a build
And it gives me everything I don’t want
rustic vale
new speedrun server
What
steep condor
is teddy the admin of the old speedrun server
mint coral
teddy is dead
🦀
stone rune
and wouldnt give it to anyone else
and when you tried to bring it up he blocked and banned you
steep condor
oh
rustic vale
steep condor
nice admin behavior
rustic vale
It doesn’t look like he’s the owner am I missing
stone rune
so the old server couldnt use bots or anything
stone rune
It doesn’t look like he’s the owner am I missing
?
stone rune
hes admin at top
jaunty sparrow
Right so
Ares and dio are in the pool
I got the zeus attack
Do i force in art or athena
Im going art
And imma hope athena
Give me dio call istg
latent moon
Im going art
you already have ares, dio, and zeus
if you force arty you can't get athena naturally after that lmao you have to use a keepsake into ely and by that point it's too late to invest into the cast
jaunty sparrow
Hopefully i find ares cast
rustic vale
Time for the most gamer 40 heat ever
stiff obsidian
maybe ill actually be motivated to play now
jaunty sparrow
How W is gyun yu spear
upper wolf
wdym
mint coral
How good
jaunty sparrow
Yuh
mint coral
Is rlly good with charged skewer
mint coral
You only need to reach him
mint coral
No
jaunty sparrow
Oh
rustic vale
How W is gyun yu spear
W
jaunty sparrow
Yay
rustic vale
The closest I’ve gotten to 32 heat spear clear is with Gy 
mint coral
No
the exact thing is
other weapons need to have gy revealed to unlock their hidden aspect
but you don't need to reach dad again for them
jaunty sparrow
Ah
mint coral
it needs the list of minor prophecies/reach dad/have 5 non zag aspects unlocked across all weapons
the rest is have gy revealed/invest 5 blood into the weapon
jaunty sparrow
Ah
mint coral
fists/shield also need extra dialogue before the phrase
jaunty sparrow
Blood is annoying to get
mint coral
the rest is have gy revealed/invest 5 blood into the weapon
(for future reference, #h1-story-discussion pins)
upper wolf
isn't GY the second aspect to have beaten 64 heat ?
mint coral
lol lmao
last veldt
You could say that.
I mean you'd be completely wrong, but you could say that.
jagged hamlet
Easy...to fail!
upper wolf
a handful of players have cleared it. In the whole world. Over the years Hades has been out.
most people don't even try, and give up at lower difficulties
latent moon
2 have beaten it without the speedrunning modpack, another did it routed, and there's like 6 people or so who did it with the speedrunning modpack
It only got beaten without the modpack as a joke the first time, and the 2nd one happened bc the first one happened and he got motivated and grinded it for a week lmao
latent moon
Most people also dont go past 32 heat, which isn't half the difficulty of 64
latent moon
much mor than a week'
Idk tbh but it was around a week iirc
Prob like 6+ hours a day tho
latent moon
Honestly something like that lmao
jaunty sparrow
Most people also dont go past 32 heat, which isn't half the difficulty of 64
Yes it is
64 divided by 2 is 32
Anyway
Do i have to slowly work my way up heat
Or can i just max it out
mint coral
clearing higher heat than needed will give you the bounties for the lowest heat available
main benefit is just more fun with different pacts/can repeat the same until game tells you to increase the heat again
jaunty sparrow
Yea but
Can i just
After beating hades for the first tome
Instantly do 64 heat
latent moon
No bc some stuff is locked behind story
upper wolf
you can do 60 though
latent moon
And you need to have the mirror fully unlocked to use a certain pact
jaunty sparrow
Good enough
upper wolf
oh right
mint coral
64 divided by 2 is 32
the pact difficulty is exponential so nah
upper wolf
forgot about this one
jaunty sparrow
And you need to have the mirror fully unlocked to use a certain pact
Like everything max
mint coral
all skills unlocked but doesn't matter if upgraded
latent moon
Yeah just unlocked
upper wolf
so max heat would be... 64 - 4 for EM, -1 for PL, -2x4 for RI ?
latent moon
Yeah
upper wolf
so 51 or 59 depending on mirror
latent moon
Yep
jaunty sparrow
Fr
fervent radish
62 seems reasonable
It’s the 1 life that’s like atleast 30% of the difficulty of 64
chilly zephyr
I hate how our monkey brain works
Full life+3 extra lives? HECK yeah I'm lazy and die all the lives within two minutes of fight. 10% of last life? Three minutes of tryhard and die at finishline
Also what idiocy is it that we can't swear? Even the godamned Cult of Lamb server that is child-proof allows for swearing
upper wolf
No idea, but it's not like it's a big deal tbh
chilly zephyr
It is when you come from a culture that swears a lot
rustic vale
Yeah ig it’d be a struggle if cussing is 2nd nature
It never really got into my vocabulary because I didn’t see the need for it
upper wolf
I swear pretty often and I don't mind it that much. I had to get used to it for sure though
Took me a week or so
fervent radish
if i want to curse about the game i just go to the speedrunning server
rustic vale
Guess what i got
Hades 4
fervent radish
Him rn: 🤪🤩😝
upper wolf
Bouldy
fervent radish
I'll take a blob, a dog, Kermit and lucky star over basic bland emojis
And I’ll take tidal dash over those
upper wolf
F
jaunty sparrow
Yea
latent moon
Can that be animated
fervent radish
Real
jaunty sparrow
Lol
upper wolf
They see me rollin'
rose roost
they bouldin'
sullen kettle
guys
I want to beat hades with either sword, shield, spear, or bow
which would be the best to do so
fervent radish
which would be the best to do so
wdym best
shield is easiest yeah
just do beowulf
stiff obsidian
Do all of them
fervent radish
^
latent moon
just do beowulf
they've got like 3 clears total lmao i odnt think they have beo
but also like
latent moon
shield isn't the best in the sense that it has like piss poor damage unless you get good hammers or build/play zeus shield properly
and i know this bc i did a run with aspectless shield and i had no semblance of damage until i got pulv blow on the 2nd hammer
like it works but it's kinda a pain bc of the base knockback
stiff obsidian
and i know this bc i did a run with aspectless shield and i had no semblance of ...
My first run
latent moon
pulv blow good hammer
stiff obsidian
Oh i just meant aspectlesss shield
I didn't even screenshot it because it was a very cheesy clear
So I did my 2nd clear right after that one and consider it my first clear
With eris
sullen kettle
alright i beat hades using shield
it is so bs
can completely cheese the fight
i got a bit arrogant so I lost one death defiant
so that's half
stiff obsidian
lol i tried max heat
too bad havent even reached the part where its actually hard yet 💀
spark monolith
got a chaos gate, hammer, and the NPC room all at once
chilly zephyr
Yeah ig it’d be a struggle if cussing is 2nd nature
It's a HECKING in my BOTTOM
Also dying on last 5% of hades is pain
stiff obsidian
who
latent moon
dang you're grinding out those wins lmao
keen mortar
Got my first win! had 2 dds left lmao, steamrolled hades
latent moon
gamer
keen mortar
took demeter on attack and cast with base gun
then took the boon that deals damage when 10 frosts are applied
then got support fire from artemis
super lucky run
i was also saving up coin for a diamond at the shop
I'm guessing theres a lot more story after this?
latent moon
you know it lmao
now do it again 
also side note
on the rail, try zeus attack and get his supporting boon called static discharge
you'll get a whole lot more damage out that way
keen mortar
ic, couldn't find zeus the whole run
still dont have his keepsake
i find it funny how i just kind of spontaneously die and then proceeds to say "i'll do it again"
latent moon
oh lmao unfortunate
sullen kettle
omg I hate the bow
I am using chiron but like
having to reset the target every 2 shots is so annoying and puts me in danger
latent moon
you can fit 3 in a volley iirc
but also use dash strikes for the attack, it charges faster
what level chiron do you have btw since that thing kinda sucks at low level
sullen kettle
it is pretty low level since I am low on titan blood
and for some reason it takes more than other upgrades
let me check the exact level
yeah it's only level 2
should I put it off for now
latent moon
yeah id just not use the special lmao
sullen kettle
until I get more blood
latent moon
you can if you want, zag bow is generally considered better than chiron but more people like to use chiron
but like if you dont want to then it's fine tbh
sullen kettle
oh
latent moon
save the blood for other things that are more interesting
sullen kettle
is it used for things besides upgrades/trading
latent moon
nah just aspect stuff
but like
other aspects can be more interesting lmao
zag bow gives the attack a base crit rate, which is like good but not flashy like some other aspects
sullen kettle
i regret wasting my initial 6 titan blood
latent moon
what'd you use it on
sullen kettle
I got this game like 3 days ago right
I assumed you would be able to respec the titan blood
latent moon
oh lmao unfortunate
sullen kettle
so I spent it on zag rail (I didn't realize I would be using the special way more)
latent moon
lmao rip
it's fine tbh
base bow works fine enough
just dash strike everything with a % modifier on the atk and you'll be fine
sullen kettle
rail is my favorite weapon, it was my first clear and the easiest to clear with imo
how rare is ambrosia
wondering if it would be stupid to trade it for titan blood
I have been saving it
latent moon
you get an excess of it throughout the whole game
since you're early in the game you can prob just do it all and be fine
but the more you progress i prob wouldn't do it as much
keen mortar
rail is my favorite weapon, it was my first clear and the easiest to clear with ...
first rail clear club, lol
i'm tempted to trade my Ambrosia for Titan's blood but i'm guessing thats not a great idea
tepid light
I'll never forget my first ever clear, when I just cowered behind shield for 40mins while occasionally hitting dad
keen mortar
lmao, imagine zag and dad just dies after a while because of the whole tied to the underworld thing
brisk trail
So i freed orpheus from his pact but he hasn’t appeared since i got his contract from the admin chambers like he’s been gone for a while lol, what do i do
sullen kettle
ok this game actually hates me bro
I got into a fight with charon
bro is harder than any boss
ended my run for no reason
latent moon
it's hard bc you've only fought him once lmao
when you get more practice in then it'll get easier
also if you fight him in tartarus you have like no build so it's a lot harder
latent moon
i mean same idea lmao your build is just slightly more developed
sullen kettle
and yeah ashphodel is also
very underdeveloped
ashphodel lava is a pain
might be onto something with this bow now
Got explosive shot, getting 800+ dmg shots
steep condor
pretty sure it's developed specifically to be a pain
sullen kettle
wondering how i'm gonna deal with the satyr holes tjo
seems like the explosive bow charges too sliw
could get poisoned in the time it takes
brisk trail
Yo guys what happens if u free orpheus
I hate grinding diamonds just for the contracfs
brisk trail
yo if u tell him
I alr freed orph but nothing happened because he’s been gone out of the house for like 5 runs straight for me..
All my dialogues repeat now and it is extremely annoying
sullen kettle
damn it bro the bow ughh
i died to hades
I can't beat him with this bs
i got a toy weapon out here
rustic vale
it is pretty low level since I am low on titan blood
Its practically unusable till it’s level 4/5
rustic vale
seems like the explosive bow charges too sliw
R u dash striking
rustic vale
i got a toy weapon out here
As an avid bow enjoyer:
brisk trail
As an avid bow enjoyer: <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
Yo just a question, how do i unlock the hidden weapon aspects?
stiff obsidian
bad game
brisk trail
Yo guys whats a good achilles spear build
brisk trail
How do people make rail fire multiple specials?
stiff obsidian
hammer
sullen kettle
How do people make rail fire multiple specials?
what does this mean
my brain is lowkey fried
wicked sage
ok this game actually hates me bro
the game hates a lot of people
wicked sage
Yo guys whats a good achilles spear build
you would want tidal dash, and zeus or arte on your attack
if you get zeus, aim for static discharge, Z call and splitting bolt
if you get arte, aim for ares's call (slicing shot) and hunting blades + some ares boons that affect the blade rifts
get greatest reflex from hermes and dont take any spin hammers
brisk trail
you would want tidal dash, and zeus or arte on your attack
if you get zeus, aim ...
Alr thanks
brisk trail
This build actually got me to beating dad the 4th time, thanks so much!
stiff obsidian
you would want tidal dash, and zeus or arte on your attack
if you get zeus, aim ...
i think u meant cast not call
brisk trail
if he took ares's call
I did lol, but it still worked fine tbh
wicked sage
I did lol, but it still worked fine tbh
oof
sorry
i assume you got artemis's attack
rustic vale
bow without dash striking is agony
like this play here is a bit sloppy but I think it gets my point across for dash striking
brisk trail
i assume you got artemis's attack
I got zeus
wicked sage
k
rustic vale
you would want tidal dash, and zeus or arte on your attack
if you get zeus, aim ...
if they get zeus, you also recommend athena cast & lighting phalanx
brisk trail
like this play here is a bit sloppy but I think it gets my point across for dash...
Wait how r u fighting the sisters all at once lmao
rustic vale
my face when extreme measures 1 \
brisk trail
my face when extreme measures 1 \
WAIT it does that?? I thought it just added new moves 
rustic vale
yeah they are new moves
if you look you'll see there is only 1 health bar and it's just Alecto's
the other sisters are there to add in their moves
brisk trail
Ohhh its just assist
rustic vale
but yeah that fight would've gone completely differently if I had been standing striking the whole itme
brisk trail
wicked sage
should i shame myself for using aim assist
brisk trail
should i shame myself for using aim assist
What does it even do, it isn’t even in my settings lol
wicked sage
What does it even do, it isn’t even in my settings lol
it assists in your aim (wow shocker)
AYYYY FLURRY JAB
time to go on an absolute rampage
welp
normal achilles screwup
steep condor
aim assist is sort of needed when you're on controller
also, it's a game, everyone can play how they want to, no shame needed
stiff obsidian
i dont think theres a single person who plays without aim assist
jaunty sparrow
jaunty sparrow
aim assist is sort of needed when you're on controller
Yea
jaunty sparrow
should i shame myself for using aim assist
Its impossible without it
You aim with the same stick you use to walk
If you didn’t have aim assist
Youd be doomed
wicked sage
same with keyboard?
jaunty sparrow
Youd have to walk at every enemy you wanted to shoot
wicked sage
i would assume so
stiff obsidian
mo
wicked sage
mo indeed
rustic vale
No sane person plays Hades on controller without aim assist
It’s different on keyboard
But that’s a completely different story
jaunty sparrow
No sane person plays Hades on controller without aim assist
Wonder what its like
I know my goal now
64 heat no boons
No aim assist
Gonna be the first
mint coral
Since when we have boonless 64
rustic vale
64 heat no boons
Boonless 64 is probably impossible bar glitches
jaunty sparrow
Wait why
rustic vale
You would straight up lack the dps output to deal with js3 cp2 dc2 em4 bp2
mint coral
Time limit
jaunty sparrow
Wait there’s a time limit
jaunty sparrow
void vigil
I believe in you, just practice for 4000 more hours and you got this in the bag 
jaunty sparrow
The more i learn the more im scared
jaunty sparrow
I believe in you, just practice for 4000 more hours and you got this in the bag ...
I’ve got autism ive got adhd and IVE GOT A DREAM
rustic vale
I’m being serious btw I’m pretty sure boonless 64 wouldn’t have enough dps to get anywhere close
rustic vale
every enemy lives 2 more hits, every enemy has 30% more hp, 60% more enemies, all the armoured enemies are worse
rustic vale
If you remove the time limit
You still have time limit
mint coral
Without td you have 58(?)
rustic vale
Time limit is 6 heat
jaunty sparrow
You still have time limit
Huh?
rustic vale
there are 3 levels of it
wicked sage
i think i should start dash striking coronacht
rustic vale
Each giving 1/2/3 heat respectively
rustic vale
i think i should start dash striking coronacht
You should
rustic vale
like this play here is a bit sloppy but I think it gets my point across for dash...
This is why
wicked sage
My mums getting us a new dog
congrat👏
autumn rose
Since when we have boonless 64
Since I did it 5 minutes ago fr
jaunty sparrow
congrat👏
He’s a lil sick dude
A rescue
I’ll make him feel loved
I shall restore his faith in humanity
The number 1 rule in life is you don’t hurt dogs
Dogs are too adorable
mint coral
Since I did it 5 minutes ago fr <:bouldy:523329116934635534> <:bouldy:5233291169...
And you forgot to record it too right
Just like my friend
jaunty sparrow
Since I did it 5 minutes ago fr <:bouldy:523329116934635534> <:bouldy:5233291169...
GUYS
i did 64 boonless
But uh
My video bugged
So yea
brisk trail
My video bugged
Same
jaunty sparrow
Fr
autumn rose
All u need is gilgamesh
rustic vale
Maybe boonless 63
autumn rose
I did it blindfolded and hands tied behind my back
I thought that was just the custom
jaunty sparrow
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1219240582086660177/...
Sooo
58 heat is the max boonless
Without glitches?
mint coral
Still the most hilarious was the dude who just posted angel's run here the other day
jaunty sparrow
autumn rose
Still the most hilarious was the dude who just posted angel's run here the other...
Lmao
jaunty sparrow
Dw i got dis shis
autumn rose
They'll never notice
jaunty sparrow
If i do do 58 boonless
autumn rose
jaunty sparrow
Will y’all love me
autumn rose
Probably not
jaunty sparrow
Fdamn
autumn rose
I'd give u a pat on the back tho
rustic vale
Will y’all love me
Nah
would be like
respect for the completion
but that’s not really how love works
rustic vale
https://tenor.com/view/cat-approaching-low-quality-funny-serious-face-gif-245203...
Oh my gosh is that dude from the Asterius fight
nocturne kelp
Yes!!
brisk trail
Is guan yu aspect worth it
nocturne kelp
Yes
rustic vale
Is guan yu aspect worth it
Yes
brisk trail
Does charon ever speak
rustic vale
Idk I remember somebody having the implication that Charon was the Narrator because they share the same VA
Always funny
But the VA who voices both of them also narrates Hades, Pos, Achilles & Asterius so it doesn’t really hold water
nocturne kelp
Multi VA, I like that
jaunty sparrow
void vigil
Yo can anyone give good hera bow build
Aphrodites cast, everything else is just a bonus
Source: I played dozens of hours with it because it made the game easy for me
brisk trail
How do i get maegara to go to my bed chambers
I’ve forged a bond w her already
Im grinding for 30s of sounds n whipping
mint coral
90% of the answers to "why hasn't X happened" is just do more runs
void vigil
yes it just happens randomly
brisk trail
Alr
jaunty sparrow
autumn rose
completely threw two 45 heat runs on dad td feels bad
im playing worse than when i started 45 heat stuff
i think im starting to like subconsciously taking it less seriously and not trying as hard
anyone else get that
stiff obsidian
bad game
jaunty sparrow
Now whenever even one thing is wrong i just give up
autumn rose
Yeah it's frustrating
jaunty sparrow
Like
autumn rose
Cudve just been done and moved on to new aspect
jaunty sparrow
The build i like is great
But then i dont get flurry jab
Or im already at duo without a call
mint coral
I mean, you don't need a call
gray stirrup
How do i get maegara to go to my bed chambers
brisk trail
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/329403875117236225/1219278319753891861/IMG_3880.png?ex=660ab86c&is=65f8436c&hm=3df3110ad8d0f22f4d55d1be7cd36381f37eb8fa4aa111258de161384c533aec& I FINALLY DID IT OMG
autumn rose
lol
latent moon
which bow?
keen mortar
woah yay
jaunty sparrow
This bow is op
Wait
Thats one more titan blood
Meaning
I CAN GET THE FINAL SPEAR
keen mortar
wooo
jaunty sparrow
Keep acorn for hades?
latent moon
yeah
proper tusk
yea if you had it for heroes youll want it for hades
jaunty sparrow
Ight
proper tusk
he is harder and hits harder
jaunty sparrow
Omfg
Im an idiot
Ive been tryna get hunting blades since asp
I’ve had em all along
keen mortar
Wait if you have say a god boon's keepsake and you keep it on during the area transition, does the effect activate again?
and what about say coin purse and stuff like that
mint coral
Wait if you have say a god boon's keepsake and you keep it on during the area tr...
No
You keep the rarity buff but force next god is gone
keen mortar
alr thx
mint coral
Unless you didn't activate the effect ofc
There's a 1 under the keepsake to see if the effect is on
barren bridge
https://i.imgur.com/owCxo6A.jpeg thoughts ?
mint coral
Why pos attack
jaunty sparrow
Got a question
Im looking st this anvil
It says -1 hammer? +2 hammer?
Is it worth it
jaunty sparrow
proper tusk
bc theres a reason you picked the hammers you did
jaunty sparrow
Im using chiron bow
mint coral
No unless you can't get worse
proper tusk
more hammers doesnt mean good necessarily
jaunty sparrow
bc theres a reason you picked the hammers you did
I didn’t know what was good
proper tusk
but if you dont like your hammers you can try it
mint coral
What are your hammers
jaunty sparrow
I have relentless volley and Twin shot
proper tusk
keep that
mint coral
No unless you can't get worse
Or are willing to rng manip it
jaunty sparrow
Buy some poms instead?
mint coral
Also do you have the sack yet
jaunty sparrow
Both artemis atk and special
jaunty sparrow
Also do you have the sack yet
Yes
Im like half health
No death defience
Dont trust myself
mint coral
No hp to buy?
jaunty sparrow
Nope
jaunty sparrow
Just artemis, sres, 2 poms an anvil or a titan blood
Cant afford titan blood or ares
mint coral
No chaos boons I assume?
mint coral
Arte chiron w/o chaos or concentrated volley is bad
jaunty sparrow
Arte chiron w/o chaos or concentrated volley is bad
I can get anvil and hope for volley
mint coral
Tbh maybe I'd do anvil lol
proper tusk
i wonder if heart rend chiron would be good
mint coral
Either get volley or like flurry/perfect/point blank/explosive
jaunty sparrow
Got concentrated volley and chain shot
proper tusk
ok thats quite good
mint coral
i wonder if heart rend chiron would be good
Needs concentrated
mint coral
Got concentrated volley and chain shot
Gaming
latent moon
or hella chaos additive
mint coral
Actually, what lvl is your chiron
jaunty sparrow
1
mint coral
Oh
jaunty sparrow
Just got it for the fun of it
proper tusk
level 1 chiron was my first bow clear and then i never played it again
jaunty sparrow
Omg omg ong ong
I did it i did it i did it
AAAAAA
HE HAS A SECOND HEALTH BAR
SO CLOSE
SOOOOO CLOSEEEEEE
proper tusk
i love how everyone who plays this game has exactly the same reaction lol
latent moon
lmfao it do be like that
mint coral
That was quick to solve
stone rune
cursed build
autumn rose
I just realised
proper tusk
it is very weird
stone rune
its pretty good
autumn rose
Level 1 chiron with relentless volley
Is just Level FIVE chiron
stone rune
which is just lvl 0 zagbow
proper tusk
guan yu is really good if you get charged skewer
jaunty sparrow
It looks hella cool icl
proper tusk
and it feels terrible if you dont
jaunty sparrow
Or something that is thematically cool
stone rune
merciful end\
autumn rose
just get quick spin massive spin fr guys
proper tusk
i did that my first run after unlocking guan yu
and it went really great until i died to dad in 5 hits
with 3 dds
jaunty sparrow
maybe if i get flurry jab
proper tusk
does guan yu have flurry jab
stone rune
no
jaunty sparrow
Bad weapon
proper tusk
real
autumn rose
u press special
jaunty sparrow
Bro
latent moon
if you dont get charged skewer then it kinda sucks
unless you git gud with the spin, then quick spin is also good
jaunty sparrow
Really ain’t gonna give me charged skewer
jaunty sparrow
Yes
lavish sorrel
||HAH, told you jazz||
maiden narwhal
hades: don't get hit
latent moon
how is epic swift strike on zag shield?
not bad, your standing attack is faster so you can block faster
nice for pulv blow and cshot
jaunty sparrow
What cast
maiden narwhal
you said rare crop can't touch hermes right?
latent moon
only eury can hit hermes
maiden narwhal
cool
latent moon
you dont need either of those
cast does nothing for your build
and call isn't important, just nice to get
maiden narwhal
What cast and what call
you've already won
latent moon
i'd hold off on the call until you get the duo tho
maiden narwhal
for call you can phone a friend and tell them
jaunty sparrow
i'd hold off on the call until you get the duo tho
Why
I might aswell go zeus since hes in the pool
maiden narwhal
zeus call stronk
latent moon
having a call puts in 2 boons into hermes' god pool
so it's harder to get good hermes
if you want you can take zeus call tho
just dont take athena cast or a revenge boon
bc you'd open up duos you dont want
autumn rose
he definitely did both of those things
jaunty sparrow
Is heavens vengeance a revenge boon
jaunty sparrow
Oop
latent moon
lmfao rip
jaunty sparrow
I dumped it
maiden narwhal
omg there needs to be a hammer where the shield won't ricochet
if special just hit and returned, it would be fine
proper tusk
aspect of captain america
latent moon
dw there's a hammer that makes it bounce more :)
also why are you using shield special
maiden narwhal
also why are you using shield special
because it's there idk
latent moon
i thought you had pulv blow lmao
maiden narwhal
or point blank
but then it GOES AWAY
lavish sorrel
mint coral
omg there needs to be a hammer where the shield won't ricochet
that'd make cshot odds worse for first hammer :c
maiden narwhal
i thought you had pulv blow lmao
i do lol
latent moon
yeah just dont hit the special lmao
mint coral
unbind it
latent moon
also throwing it when dashing towards them, even if it did return immediatly, ruins fiery presence
so it's actively just bad there
latent moon
unironically uh
charged flight beo
but that's about it
if you want a special shield build that isn't zeus
maiden narwhal
also throwing it when dashing towards them, even if it did return immediatly, ru...
why am i so noob
jaunty sparrow
Dying lament?
maiden narwhal
i forgot about that completely
lavish sorrel
the "skillful" way of playing shield is cshot and doing minimum-charge shots all around the place
jaunty sparrow
Better than wave of despair right
mint coral
dying lament is nice
jaunty sparrow
Wont ruin my build?
maiden narwhal
the "skillful" way of playing shield is cshot and doing minimum-charge shots all...
yeah i know but also the most anti shield way to play shield
proper tusk
dying lament is just good
mint coral
also despair is a revenge
latent moon
bc cshot is so much better than bow lmfao
mint coral
cuz bow doesn't block
maiden narwhal
if you cshot you dont deserve block you are a savage
lavish sorrel
🗿
autumn rose
Wont ruin my build?
dying lament will open up every duo in the GAME and you will NEVER get merficul end MWAHAHHAHAH (that wont happen)
latent moon
cshot is just better bow in every way
lavish sorrel
cshot is just better bow in every way
(other than the fact that bow can get hammers that buff it directly but yk)
maiden narwhal
(other than the fact that bow can get hammers that buff it directly but yk)
and also you never play it without em so
mint coral
minotaur rush:
autumn rose
minotaur rush is stupid
jaunty sparrow
Do i want anything from ares
jaunty sparrow
Other than attack
latent moon
impending doom
maiden narwhal
Other than attack
yeah there's something that makes doom hit multiple times
autumn rose
no
jaunty sparrow
Wait if i buy an ares boon will it give me a chance at merciful end
maiden narwhal
and something else that makes doom delay and do more damage
autumn rose
Wait if i buy an ares boon will it give me a chance at merciful end
yes
maiden narwhal
and something else that makes doom delay and do more damage
that one + merciful ending is the best
latent moon
Wait if i buy an ares boon will it give me a chance at merciful end
if you have athena special then yes
proper tusk
Wait if i buy an ares boon will it give me a chance at merciful end
if you have ares attack and athena special then yea that unlocks the duo
proper tusk
ok congrats
latent moon
funny green boon?
autumn rose
no way
maiden narwhal
sdlgkjhdsglkhadgaklhg i'm unbinding special
jaunty sparrow
ATHENA IS TALKING THROUGH ARES BOON
latent moon
or wrong funny green boon
proper tusk
now get divine dash and you win the game
autumn rose
he got curse of longing lets GOOOO
latent moon
oh lmao right funny green boon
proper tusk
yeah
autumn rose
its pretty mid tbh
proper tusk
get athena dash asap now
autumn rose
proper tusk
then you can spam dash attacks and get lots of dooms
maiden narwhal
you play shackle until styx and then acorn for dad, right?
can you acorn for heroes or
latent moon
for what
autumn rose
what on earth
latent moon
it largely depends lmao
jaunty sparrow
Or urge to kill
autumn rose
urge
autumn rose
urge to be not bad
mint coral
urge to krill
proper tusk
ok yeah
autumn rose
rd
latent moon
well
mint coral
is this common rd
autumn rose
whats the greater haste %
latent moon
what rarities is everything lmao
autumn rose
and the rd %
jaunty sparrow
20 for greater and 50 for rd
proper tusk
ough
autumn rose
ew
latent moon
get hyper sprint lmao
mint coral
common haste rd my beloved
jaunty sparrow
Too late
latent moon
welp
proper tusk
gods legacy moment
maiden narwhal
also throwing it when dashing towards them, even if it did return immediatly, ru...
lmao they die SO MUCH FASTER now
mint coral
visit your nearby charon well
latent moon
now you have 10% global damage buff lmao
latent moon
it do be like that
it's like playing hestia without fiery presence and never backstabbing lmao
+75% goes hard
maiden narwhal
pulv is one shotting tart
stone rune
pulv sucks
autumn rose
does any1 else have the really bad habit of just virtually never changing their mirror
maiden narwhal
also by definition it's two shotting them hah
mint coral
most stuff runs the same so where's the issue
autumn rose
mint coral
most changes are like fiery/shadow, stubborn, and legacy if beo
ruthless but idk if you play gilga
jaunty sparrow
Ggs
latent moon
thick skin vs high confidence if you're switching btwn speed and heat
autumn rose
i wud not be considered a gilga enjoyer
jaunty sparrow
Hydra is dead
mint coral
you don't
stone rune
dedge
mint coral
do ME
autumn rose
cus everyone says gilga is worse but id take it any day over arthur
mint coral
lightninh phalanx then
proper tusk
also genuine question i still dk how to make arthur good
get artemis attack and maybe get the backstab hammer and heart rend and get big number
latent moon
dash only arthur
proper tusk
dash only arthur
this was my sword 32 heat clear lol
jaunty sparrow
Runs dead
autumn rose
arthur is just always garbage
autumn rose
what the other hammers
jaunty sparrow
Winged serpent
autumn rose
massive spin? 
autumn rose
NOOO
mint coral
is this gy ME or
jaunty sparrow
What?
autumn rose
guan yu merciful end
jaunty sparrow
No the gy isnt you
jaunty sparrow
guan yu merciful end
Yes
mint coral
eh you can get away without charged
mint coral
just dash strike
autumn rose
a spin enjoyer
autumn rose
i once took the daedulus hammers in styx and ended up with charged skewer quick spin and massive spin