h1-discussion

[lavish sorrel]

I do hate not being able to plag

[quasi dust]

Telepathy is real

[quasi dust]

I mean

Look at this

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1207803323919507507/1211057831537549362/20240224_221114.jpg?ex=65ecd07f&is=65da5b7f&hm=0bdce86cb4c176d343ca9b6270b707d413f338d2ec82e5c64124a6d1af97eb91& get out

[steep condor]

fluffy baby

[maiden narwhal]

how many other people, when the dad fight starts, regardless of weapon or aspect, dash twice straight at him?

except if you're using the rail where your special boosts your damage, then you gotta take half a beat to cast it on him before you start dashing

edit and load aspects i guess

[lavish sorrel]

🐱

[quasi dust]

Fluffy idiot baby

(I feel bad kicking him out help)

[stiff obsidian]

if ur speedrunning yeah

[quasi dust]

I do

[maiden narwhal]

nah i play like molasses

[maiden narwhal]

proper

[quasi dust]

YAY HE LEFT ON HIS OWN

Time to play

[stiff obsidian]

lately ive been waiting for him to do his first attack before attacking

[lavish sorrel]

I sometimes take a detour to clear rubble to the south of the arena

[stiff obsidian]

i do that when he darkness

[maiden narwhal]

do you stand there and wait for him to come at you, then dodge the attack?

[stiff obsidian]

yeah

[maiden narwhal]

or do you run around and reposition?

[steep condor]

very in character to do some cleaning first

[lavish sorrel]

need to keep the file fresh and clean after all 😌

[maiden narwhal]

have you found it's been working better?

[stiff obsidian]

idk man lately ive just been being wrecked by em4

https://youtu.be/E2ydOt06sVQ

[unreal mason]

I've been suffering from shield brainrot where I'm too used to blocking em4 that I forgot how to dodge.

[stiff obsidian]

i had that when i played

shield for 50

llol

[lavish sorrel]

that looks like bball abuse rather than EM4 abuse

ngl

[stiff obsidian]

havent played hades in 4 days now life is great

i did play for 30 mins today

but stupid laptop plays at like 10 fps

so i just gave up

[lavish sorrel]

🤝

[unreal mason]

You'll get pulled into it sooner or later, there is no escape

[stiff obsidian]

probably in march

[mint coral]

Just do it like croven's beo vid

[unreal mason]

That's better, more time to react

[lavish sorrel]

False Side 🤝 AlexCA 🤝 Croven

playing Hades on bad computers

[stiff obsidian]

i die because my inputs get registered like half a second late lol

[unreal mason]

New meta, play at 5fps to easily react to enemies

[mint coral]

Actually did croven ever upgrade their pc or nah

[stiff obsidian]

which is worse when ur playing mono dash

i had epic jolt and lvl 3 tdash and die to lernie because the headslams are LITERALLy undodgable

[unreal mason]

out of curiosity why aren't you using dio attack like every other insane person in high heat?

[quasi dust]

Theseus: "we can take more than that!"

I literally just killed asterius stfu

[stiff obsidian]

dio attack is so cringe

just get jolt and you get such a nicebuild

for 62 dio attack is probably the better choice though since you need ur rolls for +dash

[lavish sorrel]

"You'll get no quarter from me, daemon, or my great companion over there!"
"What companion, he's dead."

[quasi dust]

Ah, I love this game

[unreal mason]

fun fact, the word daemon originated from greece and was simply a way of referring to deities and guiding spirits

[quasi dust]

Just made it to styx

This is doable

I think

Hopefully

[quasi dust]

Interesting

[lavish sorrel]

Yep I knew that somehow 😌

[jagged hamlet]

And here I thought it was ancient Greek software jargon smh

[quasi dust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1210533692565618718/1211062504956895252/2023071817442301-C7D8C4153CC9802713604F54C53304E0_1.mp4?ex=65ecd4d9&is=65da5fd9&hm=f8d73175eff4956e324812df3011423acb0b0e7c5802070b73ef0ff7d45251df& this gameplay clip is from FOREVER ago but I just remembered I had it and I was on the floor laughing (ignore my ass gameplay pls)

Literally went "stfu theseus"

[lavish sorrel]

||poseidon special gilga 👀||

[quasi dust]

Just noticed I was using gilgamesh

[quasi dust]

Yep

Is that bad?

I like Poseidon idk

[lavish sorrel]

unconventional, don't worry about it

[quasi dust]

Ah

I mean kinda but idrc

[lavish sorrel]

usually people put poseidon on the dash for soup gilga

[quasi dust]

I have that on this playthrough

And Zeus attack + special. I'm going with what the game gives me

Is it a terrible build? Maybe. Do I care? Nah

[unreal mason]

It's probably a better build than I had, my highest heat gilga only had athena cast.

[quasi dust]

I mean could be better

[quasi dust]

how

[unreal mason]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx1bG665cYA&list=PLVlnmeG33sM1Wi2kaZJvrDxU-othPmb4e&index=18

[quasi dust]

But I wanna try just, doing it on the go. See what happens

[unreal mason]

Basically just used maim, ruthless reflex and stygian soul

[quasi dust]

I'll watch that later

I wanna finish this

If I don't die at least

[stiff obsidian]

mayybe at some point i should get my remaining aspects at 50 heat

[quasi dust]

Interesting

[stiff obsidian]

maybe itll be free once i learn em4

[devout terrace]

based

[unreal mason]

I did em4 like 3 times in my 24/24 50 heat

So nope, never free

[stiff obsidian]

i mean

theres got to be some aspects that can get cracked builds ith ri0 and ap0 irght

for example i would definitely do gilgamesh on em4

just get me

[unreal mason]

Yep, that was me with achillies

[quasi dust]

I'm on that

[lavish sorrel]

seek professional help

[quasi dust]

Wait you mean 50 heat?

Hell no

[stiff obsidian]

the alternative

[quasi dust]

I'm just doing em4

[stiff obsidian]

is have no build

[quasi dust]

But yeah em4 gilgamesh anyway

[stiff obsidian]

gl

[quasi dust]

Thanks🫡

[quasi dust]

Accurate for me

But nah

Let me suffer

Best way to learn in my experience

I just killed 3 of those annoying pot enemies with just tidal dash

This is fun

[mint coral]

Wet dash in styx is always fun

Especially with beaver

[quasi dust]

Agreed

Beaver?

[stiff obsidian]

yeah

beaver companion

[quasi dust]

Wha

[stiff obsidian]

you get it from cerberus

[quasi dust]

Is this true

[stiff obsidian]

no

[quasi dust]

oh

[stiff obsidian]

🧌

[quasi dust]

what is beaver💀

[mint coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523774570394681344/1003980579513061436/unknown.png?ex=65e6fb47&is=65d48647&hm=57422a6cd5aa4b0fd04501cdc01eed1533984b49dcad9c01f0a503fe5f4d1fdc&

Beaver (breaking wave)

[quasi dust]

Ahhh

Damnit I don't have it

But I get what you mean

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1210533692565618718/1211068746551263284/2024022422542700-C7D8C4153CC9802713604F54C53304E0.jpg?ex=65ecdaa9&is=65da65a9&hm=3fdcc23f60b51a5b2fa7870ed75a66be570663c7c205281287202293a988f6ff& uhhhhhhhhhhhhh what do I do now

I'm about to face dad btw

[mint coral]

Doesn't matter really tbh

Also why is lightning strike lvl 7

Oh that's a 2

Lmfao

[quasi dust]

It's not

Hehehdjs

I mean that would be insane

Eh I'll keep my Zeus special

Ight, off to face dad

Time to die🫡

My dad stayed for a bit to see me beat Hades phase 1

He was literally the entire time

I timed my summon terribly

Than hit him while he was still impervious

I'm so sorry

Whatever! This is doable! I have 3 uses of death defiance this will be fine!!!

Phase 2, go

Successfully dodged Cerberus

I BEAT HIM

I BEAT EM4

WOOOOO

[mint coral]

Gg

[quasi dust]

I'm going to cry

/pos

[strong ridge]

w

[lavish sorrel]

zyruviBeaver

[quasi dust]

Guys

Should I do my next em4 with nemesis

[mint coral]

Go for it

[quasi dust]

Will do

Using Battie cuz Mort has already failed me twice in a row

[mint coral]

Classic Than

[quasi dust]

Sorry Than

Off to a great start with epic arty attack

[autumn rose]

"You called Zagreus? I gotchu bro ill hit 3k damage... in about 5 minutes "

~Than

[quasi dust]

Literally him

Getting good boons wow

I'm impressed

POSEIDON CALL WOOO💪

[barren bridge]

me here

im lock in

[quasi dust]

Howdy

Good luck w your run, my friend🫡

[barren bridge]

ALREADY LUCKY FRIEND

I GOT HUMMER FIRST

AND TWIN SHOT

NOT THAT LUCKY

BUT GOOD START FRIEND

[quasi dust]

nice!

[mint coral]

That's best start tbh

[barren bridge]

FOR REAL REAL

ZUES

[quasi dust]

I got Poseidon, ares and arty

And some hermes for good measure

[barren bridge]

HMMM INTRESTING CRAFT WHAT WEAPON THOOO

[quasi dust]

Nemesis

I'm getting too lucky with the boons wtf

First it was Mirage shot (w ares cast), then vicious cycle, and now its freaking hunting blades

What is this rng

[barren bridge]

Intresting nemesis with cast build

i need to try

[quasi dust]

I wasn't planning on this but I ain't complaining

[barren bridge]

YEAG YEAH

[mint coral]

Hunting blades is always the "wasn't planning for this" build

[quasi dust]

Seems like it fr

[barren bridge]

yeah playing game freestyle and going with what ever you get it is always more fun and more skill in my opinion

[quasi dust]

I always do this lmao

I'll try builds once I grow out of it though

But for now, it's clumsy planning

[barren bridge]

some times i just try to controll too much and end up with no fun

[quasi dust]

Some control is good imo, like I used the arty keepsake to get arty first in tart

Cuz I like arty on nemesis

Simple stuff like that

[barren bridge]

yeah yeah but when you try to pick up 3 or 4 god keepsakes then theres something unfun

i might need lil controll this run cause i didnt get posiden

[quasi dust]

Gl w that

[mint coral]

Who does that

[quasi dust]

Nah I don't really mind personally

I mean

[barren bridge]

do i go with control

[quasi dust]

Idk

I don't always do it I just go w the flow, but again I love artemis on nemesis so I'm going for her half the time

[barren bridge]

i dont know when you try perfect stuff and it goes wrong

[barren bridge]

yeah understandable

[mint coral]

When you do builds you never go for 4 god builds really

As you noticed vy experience

If you wanna know meta is pretty much
God 1 > god 2 > defensive/utility for ely and styx

I think trippy beo is the most needy one?

3 gods needed

[barren bridge]

i over exaggerated i meant like 3 if you go with cast build

[mint coral]

Most cast still go for 2 gods

Or just cast + chaos/poms

[barren bridge]

yeah yeah yeah right

[quasi dust]

I'll send my build in a sec gimme a moment ares is angy and wants to kill me lol

[barren bridge]

some times stuff get unlucky and you want you know 2 dou boons and start try to over do it and it goes wrong

that was me without a lot of experience at the start

[barren bridge]

😭

[mint coral]

Fair

Tho what would want 2 duos

Unless you mean mirage + blades/beams/etc

[barren bridge]

yeah yeah

[mint coral]

Turns out the actual lesson to learn is that mirage is a scam unless your weapon is called beowulf

[barren bridge]

or aspect of her with aphro cast

[quasi dust]

I'll post it in #h1-builds-and-combat

[mint coral]

Nah

[barren bridge]

ohhhh really

[barren bridge]

let me look

[mint coral]

Hera aphro doesn't really go for mirage

[mint coral]

Is not a scam, mostly joking

Like yeah is good but arte-pos is annoying

[quasi dust]

There it is

[barren bridge]

why thooo

[mint coral]

So less of a need/want and more of "ty for showing up"

[barren bridge]

yteah yeah

[barren bridge]

lets lookk

[mint coral]

You can get your dmg from chaos and charon wells

Along with hermes rush delivery and dad call

[barren bridge]

yeah yeah buuuut more damage with mirage

and more damage = more fun hehehehe

[whole sonnet]

how much dialogue is in this game omg

its impressive

and it also changed based on the boons you have, weapon, even the keepsakes

[quasi dust]

I love the dialogue

[whole sonnet]

every time i return back to the base theres new dialogue

how much is there

omg

[quasi dust]

Even if I skip theseus half the time hes incredibly annoying shut up

[mint coral]

I had like 500+ hrs and was jumpscared by new Than dialogue

[quasi dust]

Mood

You never know with this game and that's what I love about it

Going with old collar to styx because Hades scary

[stone rune]

what about jumpscared by front facing than

[mint coral]

I don't remember my first reaction to Phineas-Than

[quasi dust]

Oh come on he doesn't look that bad

[mint coral]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/751198390892888294/1211095045013373058/RDT_20240224_2039088721088652802433663.jpg?ex=65ecf327&is=65da7e27&hm=bf2bda27900edf77d34ef89b534ba573b57b345d64dfc9bdf1332ac16c871950&

[quasi dust]

Y'all are so mean to him

[mint coral]

He should appear more often then

I need my timesave

[quasi dust]

I like him he's cool

He's got cadet's seal of approval

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrrY2ZsbYJ0 pov fist users

Got the big satyr in styx this is going to go downhill pretty fast

[stone rune]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1201072352218325064/1211133260231610432/image.png?ex=65ed16bf&is=65daa1bf&hm=df16544ce0cdf4178945ecd8209224a08f57c1b6956fe345f47911858afd697f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=550&height=310 what about this

[west relic]

Alright gonna try again to beat the campaign

Wish me luck

🖖🏻

[rustic vale]

Heavens vengeance, pressure points and bronze skin- wait I’m 4 days ago

How

On earth

[fierce flicker]

I seem to have been unable to unlock the second companion

[stiff obsidian]

pom the shackle

[maiden narwhal]

if you could use zeus shield special while you charged zeus shield rush

this game would be perfect

[latent moon]

you can recall it tho

so that's neat for explosive return

[maiden narwhal]

purge parting shot?

[maiden narwhal]

during charge?

[latent moon]

yeah

[maiden narwhal]

nice, yeah. you can get yourself cornered and block for days

[latent moon]

also yeah

well you can't like send it out you can just recall it lol

it's still useful but you wont be cornered

[maiden narwhal]

send it out, block, recall, boom

i suppose you do need to dash about a bit

lol first boon was epic athena attack, second boon was heroic artemis attack

i felt like neo

[latent moon]

lmao mood

my first boon was epic thunder flourish, next thing i got was heroic dem special

i could've rolled it but i decided to see how well % would work on zeus

[whole sonnet]

bruhhhhhhhhhh

hades replenished his life

bruhhh

mannnnn

I lost

[brisk trail]

.............

[unreal mason]

Yeah he has a death defiance (and casts).

[lavish sorrel]

and dashes

||and a spear special and companion summon and second DD later with EM4 too|| spoilers

[whole sonnet]

it was my 20th escape attempt 😭

[unreal mason]

and technically you could say that his "darkness" is him using his call boon.

[lavish sorrel]

"I assume that you must hate the very sight of me. You'll understand, then, why I wear the Helm of Darkness."

[unreal mason]

God, The amount of times I've heard that line really shows how much freshfile running I've done. I can basically recite from memory all the 1st run lines.

[lavish sorrel]

yeah same

"Your father sent me. All in all, I'd better be on your bad side than his. Now you can turn back, like a good little man, or I can send you home the painful way. What'll it be?"

[unreal mason]

"Um, hello HISS Oh great"

[lavish sorrel]

"Oh. Of course."

anyhow everyone should try run 1 ff 😌

[unreal mason]

"Hold fiend, you'll walk not one step further towards the light" - don't actually know the rest because I always skip his dialog

[unreal mason]

yeah it's fun if you want a challenge

[lavish sorrel]

"Hold fiend, you'll walk not one step further towards the light of day, so long as I am here."

[unreal mason]

took me a while before I could actual win tho.

[steep condor]

meg / zag banter is probably how i fell in love w the game's characters and writing

[lavish sorrel]

hold, fie-

[unreal mason]

*I warned you short one-

[lavish sorrel]

bold of you to assume people going for speed don't reset at asterius miniboss

[steep condor]

i thought you just use the mod to not make him appear

[unreal mason]

This was prior to my modding days

but I think FF is unmodded

[lavish sorrel]

freshfile-related stuff is entirely unmodded anyway

mods aren't legal here

[steep condor]

ah. didn't know that

[unreal mason]

I basically had no interaction with the community so the only thing I knew about Hades tips was what Haelian posted on youtube XD I probably didn't know anything about which miniboss was quicker (I was probably worrying too much about not dying :/ )

[lavish sorrel]

hey wanna get another FF clear, for leaderboard completeness purposes?

[unreal mason]

I'm pretty sure the first vod I ever uploaded was ff, I might go back to it when I have more time.

[lavish sorrel]

because I see your ff time nowhere on src

am I blind?

[unreal mason]

I should be something like 21st

[lavish sorrel]

ok cool I AM blind

[unreal mason]

I go by "theposhboy1" since that's my youtube name.

[last veldt]

Getting to Hades by 20 attempts is pretty damn good tbh. You got this.

[void vigil]

It’s “legal” but since there’s no dedicated modding channel and no modding support, it’s best to talk about it in the modding server

[lavish sorrel]

Leaderboard-legal, blossom.

[void vigil]

🤔 I misunderstood LOL

[lavish sorrel]

There is no modded FF board

[whole sonnet]

once again hades beat me in the second phase

I got there with sword and then with fists

[steep condor]

can't count the number of times i've attempted fists 32 now, breezing through everything until i reach em3

at which point i think i am invincible thanks to m.e. and think i can take the last part of theseus off with than, who misses

and then. i die

[stiff obsidian]

this is the right opportunity for battie propoganda

[lavish sorrel]

^

[steep condor]

i think we all learned a lesson here. don't rely on ypur boyfriend

[lavish sorrel]

No more misses if used well

[steep condor]

i know

[quasi dust]

River of Flame slaps
I love it

And the music of this game in general is amazing

[torn phoenix]

In the blood 🔥

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088591737309638746/1211291519542366249/image.png?ex=65edaa22&is=65db3522&hm=60d4dc3284346b813ebefceb959bc99a9a6d2cd52ecf5ed6d9bb3bbf457e5782&

[torn phoenix]

this is truly saddening false side

[quasi dust]

How could you

[whole sonnet]

hmmm

I dunno what aspect to upgrade

[barren bridge]

https://i.imgur.com/kxGJP1H.png twinsss

[quasi dust]

How can you play like this

[barren bridge]

i have other songs on background

[quasi dust]

Ok fair

But Hades music

[barren bridge]

yeah yeah its good great some times i just change lil

[quasi dust]

Understandable

[quasi dust]

Maybe start with the one you like most? That's what I did at least

With Gilgamesh, Nemesis and Achilles

[barren bridge]

upgrade that you think you will have fun with

[quasi dust]

Yea

[barren bridge]

yeah yeah

https://i.imgur.com/5M2Lzls.jpeg tragic im gonna reroll

or do i not

hmmmmmmmmmm

oh wait

i cant reroll

im dumbass

[quasi dust]

Chaos can give legendaries?

How do you do that

[lavish sorrel]

it's completely random

[barren bridge]

like he said

[barren bridge]

just extra dd

so you have 4 instead of 3

[quasi dust]

Damn

Interesting

[quasi dust]

Dumb question what does dd stand for

[barren bridge]

death defiance

[quasi dust]

Oh wait

Yeah

That was obvious mb

[barren bridge]

nonono dont worry

[quasi dust]

Guys
Achilles for my next em4?

[stiff obsidian]

eris

[quasi dust]

Mmm

That's a good option too yeah

I wanna do EM4 with all weapons btw

So I'll do Achilles eventually

[mint coral]

Revenge for your gy run

[quasi dust]

Pretty much

My gy run was, um

Embarrassing

[maiden narwhal]

i killed lernie without losing my tooth or my defiance

i'm actually getting better at this game

i am unsure how to feel about this

since i was already the best

@latent moon using your block rush style is useful if i can remember to

also, why do you die before entering a new chamber?

sigh
asterius again

that's it

approval process: on

hard labour: 40%

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879755279481339975/1211328584472600616/IMG20240225203646.jpg?ex=65edcca7&is=65db57a7&hm=5a7cdbf99224236ea3f3382112e2fdfa57dac60a54733ee0f496bbe096f31f4c&

sigh

[void vigil]

ap Agony

[maiden narwhal]

indeed

but wow this game is p chill without hl

does pos cast scale better than call?

call seems to fall off after level 5

[steep condor]

not sure what you're referring to but could be that their health is lower than what stubborn defiance heals. so you'd die once to start with more health and a new defiance in the next chamber

[maiden narwhal]

oh yeah the defiance recharge

i know about the hp but i keep forgetting about the actual recharge

i wonder if there's a tweak that'll give dd back

stubborn defiance is srs bsns

1. pom the hell out of pos call and proud bearing
2. rip tide
3. profit

if i have dio attack, do i want bad influence or peer pressure?

[stiff obsidian]

neither

sel l whatever you take

[maiden narwhal]

yes that's what i settled on

so it didn't matter which i picked

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879755279481339975/1211347587723165716/IMG20240225215222.jpg?ex=65edde5a&is=65db695a&hm=e845b86656269026d48b7406da37589f56f30148a3fb55285d490afbf6c85e87&

fkn figures
when i finally beat heroes at 32, it's without a special

demeter was my last room and i skipped special for snow burst

riptide does nothing to heroes and that's kinda sad

theseus just... stands there

sure ate the damage tho

if styx gives me z special and sea storm

i am going to build a little altar

and cry to it

no zeus ):

lame

@stiff obsidian athena or dem on special?

there's the poseidon option but idk

i really want to clear this i even have patty

[stiff obsidian]

uh i think athena but i dont play zeus shield

[maiden narwhal]

fair

[stiff obsidian]

how do you not have a special lol

[maiden narwhal]

but you still have a lot more experience/skill in general

[stiff obsidian]

ideallly you start with special

[maiden narwhal]

they just never offered a nice one idk

[maiden narwhal]

pos seed

omg i forgot i lowered hl

no wonder i cleared

sigh

so much for skill

[latent moon]

Reset SD for more effective health

[maiden narwhal]

i know that
i just don't know why not let it reset naturally in the next encounter

[latent moon]

Because then I have less hp in total in that room

[maiden narwhal]

yes

i math gud

[latent moon]

Like if I have 15/100 hp when I end a chamber with SD, the next room I'll only have 45 hp

So reset the SD for 60 hp

Like I could let it reset next roon but then I'd be more likely to die

[maiden narwhal]

i get it yes

[latent moon]

Keep a calculator handy lol

[maiden narwhal]

now that i have discord on pc it's a lot easier to yeah

much easier to alt tab and keyboard type than with fat thumbs on phone

[maiden narwhal]

wyt @latent moon

[maiden narwhal]

this my build

[latent moon]

Wtf lmfao how did you end up there

[maiden narwhal]

ikr

holding out for the zeus that never came

[latent moon]

For Dem vs Athena just take whatever rarity is higher lol

I mean at that point like

Take whoever tbh

[maiden narwhal]

also this

[latent moon]

Pos special would actually be good at that point since you only have Styx and dad left

[maiden narwhal]

max rarity son

how we roll

with that boon

[latent moon]

And knockback is good in Styx and doesn't matter in dad fight

[maiden narwhal]

whose name i have currently forgotten

[latent moon]

So unironically probably pos

Oh you have exclusive access

[maiden narwhal]

kek and he offered only support

[latent moon]

Pos Athena then Dem is how I'd order it

[maiden narwhal]

actually ap might've taken special i didn't check

[latent moon]

Next pos boon is guaranteed special unless replacement

Oh ap

Yeah gl with that lmao

[maiden narwhal]

i chickened out of hl

just couldn't take 80%

i'm bad

[latent moon]

I did tell you to take cf2 instead

[maiden narwhal]

you did

but if that's the one that raises prices, no

prefer ap

[latent moon]

Bruh lmao

[maiden narwhal]

idk

i can never afford shops with the pact on

i guess i don't pay attention/anticipate them

[latent moon]

You also don't get the boons you want when you can afford them bc of ap

[maiden narwhal]

one in three roll the diceeeee

rngesus has a crush on me

ok cf > ap
understood

but also not important now because if i clear this i am done with 32

i'll do 20 gilgamesh

[latent moon]

Lmao gl

[maiden narwhal]

or 16 em4

new content!

do you get a new cutscene?

for beating him, that is

maybe cerbie comes lies at his feet?

[maiden narwhal]

but which scales better
raw numbers

from poms i mean

[latent moon]

Are you actually gonna be getting poms in Styx lol

[maiden narwhal]

ofc i always buy out the shop

there's usually two or three in there

[latent moon]

If you have enough money and ap doesn't screw you

[maiden narwhal]

and that's moot because i already put em all into call

[latent moon]

Probably pos but I need to check

[maiden narwhal]

but i want to know for next time

[stiff obsidian]

same

[maiden narwhal]

waiting for zeus omg

how he gonna do me like that

[whole sonnet]

pfffffft

I think I need the 3rd revive to beat hadses

[latent moon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1007734863186624562/1053395515456360548/output.png?ex=65eb6906&is=65d8f406&hm=452dc23864df36836ae2504b33c4dd9e41f2f150dca7e471bae6b604f25a5ee0&

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Pos scaling is way better lmao

[maiden narwhal]

no i meant

scaling between pos cast and pos call

which is better to pom

[latent moon]

Your call is already level like 6

[maiden narwhal]

but also that's excellent to know

but damage is not enough here

utility wise

would dem be better?

[latent moon]

First poms on a boon do the most so special is gonna be more valuable

[maiden narwhal]

a cold dad is a slow dad

[latent moon]

I mean up to you

Raw damage vs utility

Whatever you think you need

[maiden narwhal]

because nobody answered my question, so i went with call

[maiden narwhal]

my hand held, mostly

i'm scared

[whole sonnet]

I just want to escape man

I cant escape

😭

[latent moon]

Lmao you'll be fine

[whole sonnet]

rail gun took me the farthest

maybe I should try again with sword

[maiden narwhal]

robschneider.wav

[maiden narwhal]

rail is sick
stick with it and you'll roll an op build soon enough

[latent moon]

You have a full god pool Zeus wasn't gonna appear naturally

[maiden narwhal]

also you'll get better with rail

[maiden narwhal]

i mean.. i saw him once

i think

[latent moon]

If you did then you skipped him

[maiden narwhal]

yes

[whole sonnet]

I basically choose weapons based on the dark thirst buff

[maiden narwhal]

and he never came back again

[latent moon]

You have Dio pos Athena Dem so no chance for Zeus to show up afterwards

[whole sonnet]

I dont really stick to just one

[maiden narwhal]

yeah and after that just.. nobody ever had anything nice on offer for special

or nobody had a special cause ap

and then suddenly i'm at heroes

[latent moon]

And that's why we don't take AP lol

[maiden narwhal]

with no special

[maiden narwhal]

we also don't say i told you so, precious

[latent moon]

Lmfao

[rustic vale]

um actually

I told you so

[maiden narwhal]

what is this

[rustic vale]

A tone indicator

[maiden narwhal]

its nose is like cat

dyk riptide does not pull rats across gaps?

such a gyp

oh rip current

riptide is a much better name

tell them i said so

[autumn rose]

im

not doing that

[steep condor]

these are squirts, enemies from bastion. if that was your question

[brisk trail]

help

why are all 3 of the furies here

[mint coral]

Em1 moment

Have fun

[brisk trail]

:(

[quasi dust]

First time?

[brisk trail]

yea

[quasi dust]

Gl

And have fun

[brisk trail]

nvm

it was light work

[quasi dust]

Yeah it's not really hard imo

More annoying than anything

[maiden narwhal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/879755279481339975/1211358396650102844/IMG20240225223519.jpg?ex=65ede86b&is=65db736b&hm=98103ae8154bd5cc5a19c14b8094ae706d52c90259a32857547a24395970e33b&

20 ✅
25 ✅
32 ✅

td almost got me yo

i stopped paying attention and lost my patty

was such a tight finish

[latent moon]

gamer

send it to #h1-victory-boasting

[maiden narwhal]

isn't skelly supposed to give me something?

[latent moon]

yeah

go to the area near the pact

like right below that

there should be stuff covered there

[last veldt]

It's glorious.

[whole sonnet]

OMFFFG

I DID IT

[quasi dust]

What did u do

[brisk trail]

NOOO I FORGOT TO CHANGE MY KEEPSAKE WHEN I WENT INTO ELYSIUM

[quasi dust]

That's so frustrating I've been there wayyyy too many times

[brisk trail]

well at least i got triple jab

[whole sonnet]

I escaped

im so scared

im scared that some secret boss is gonna jump at me XD

[last veldt]

It's all good. You did it buddy, it's the end of the game, you escaped!

[unreal mason]

nobody tell him that sans_undertale is the secret final boss.

[brisk trail]

alr made it out of elysium

[fervent radish]

He hasn’t gotten to the ||supergiant yet||

[whole sonnet]

ok so I unlocked the punishment pactr

I still think im kinda weak tho

I could barely make it without added difficulties

[brisk trail]

this game REALLY wants me to get artemis boon although i alr have 3

[last veldt]

1 point in hard labour for all weapons gives you at least 6 more titan blood.

Since you'll make it past meg.

Try Extreme Measures 1 or 2 too.

[brisk trail]

i have clean kill, hunters mark, and pressure points alr and the game wants me to get 2 more artemis boons?

[last veldt]

What weapon?

[whole sonnet]

can I complete it with all 59 skulls?

[last veldt]

Press X to doubt

[whole sonnet]

i mean is it possible

when im maxed out?

[latent moon]

for you or in general

[whole sonnet]

in general

[latent moon]

bc 64 has been beaten

[last veldt]

But not by a mere mortal

[latent moon]

it's been beaten twice unmodded

[last veldt]

And it took years

[latent moon]

yeah lmao

[last veldt]

I mean try it and see... It won't take long.

If you get past chamber 3 I will be impressed.

[latent moon]

i mean that's doable if i get the right boon at the start lol

the only difference btwn that and the run i did last night is cp2 and monodash more or less

for like most of tart

until bp2 decides to do cloner seeker witches lmao

for the really good players, the main problem with 64 was the rng not the difficulty

[brisk trail]

im at hades again

yippee

[latent moon]

just win

easy

[brisk trail]

varatha with achilles aspect

[last veldt]

Hmm, if you had any Zeus you might get Lightning Rod.

Support Fire with Flurry Jab is fine.

[latent moon]

hunting blades good

[last veldt]

Probably late to get that if you weren't already aiming for it I suspect.

I assume @brisk trail is in Styx at this point.

[latent moon]

oh if they're that far along then probably lmao

[brisk trail]

i beat hades again :)

womp womp taken by the styx

[last veldt]

Artemis best girl

[fervent radish]

support fire isn't great without a buff

[brisk trail]

aphrodi-

[last veldt]

A critically acclaimed duo

[last veldt]

That's why I suggested Flurry Jab. They already had PP and HM.

[brisk trail]

heat is up to 3 now

im gonna see how many times i can beat hades in one day

[cosmic summit]

Someone please buy me hades

[last veldt]

What platform?

[cosmic summit]

Steam

[last veldt]

I don't do steam.

[brisk trail]

why does it say you've been playing brawlhalla for a whole day bro

[cosmic summit]

Epic games?

[last veldt]

Sadly not.

[cosmic summit]

Thank you anyways

[brisk trail]

why is the hydra chamber changed

im gonna lose it

nvm i won

[quasi dust]

Nice

[covert hare]

So you get to choose how old you want to look when you die

No wonder everyone looks fine and young

[echo minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/hades-zagreus-autism-creature-yippee-gif-16967843742685675566

[whole sonnet]

so after unlocking all weapons and the full mirror what do I use keys for?

should I hoard them or exchange for something else

[proper tusk]

you can use them to reset the mirror to respec your perks

otherwise just trade them for nectar

and titan blood when that trade is offered

[unreal mason]

Yep, 8 people have beaten 64 (2 seeded, 4 modded, 2 unmodded)

[stiff obsidian]

p6shb4y

[zealous ridge]

I did it again. I started a new save. This will be my third full run!

I just love the story and art so much

I want to put some cool Hades stickers on my water bottle. I checked the official site but they didn't have any. Has anyone got some somewhere that I could look at?

[formal citrus]

Nice! Wait what do you mean by full?

[zealous ridge]

Like getting everything in the shop beating him with every weapon completing the fated list and skelly's prizes

Full disclaimer I have not gotten through skelly's prizes but I've done everything else

I mean in other rounds but that's what it includes

[formal citrus]

Seen companions?

Just asking because that risks missing them sounds like

[zealous ridge]

Oh and all companions

And all keepsakes

[rugged pivot]

That sounds like pain

I'm almost done with mine but PATROCLUS WON'T SHOW UP WITH THE RIGHT LINE

[formal citrus]

I always forget that giving blood to an aspect doesn't switch you to ot

[jovial forum]

GUYS

SPOILERS?
||i killed theseus and asterius, they were low hp but WERENT DEAD but a random scythe appeared and they died.. they didnt go to the styx either they turned into butterflies. ??? is this than?||

[latent moon]

spoilers are allowed here

[mint coral]

demeter's legendary

[latent moon]

but htat was dem legendary yeah

[jovial forum]

oh my god i was exctied for no reason 😭

thank you

[latent moon]

she gets special effects/voice lines when that happens against bosses

[jovial forum]

thats pretty awesome

i didnt get any voicelines tho :(

[latent moon]

hm

that might only be on dad then lmao

but there's def voice lines

[mint coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J89aaeGNGwg

nah

all bosses

[latent moon]

lmao aight i just haven't used it in such a long time

is it the same line for each boss?

also it doesn't show furies smh scammed

[mint coral]

have fun getting winter harvest before furies

[latent moon]

just get it

[mint coral]

also nah, is just random

[mint coral]

true

[latent moon]

or codex mod

[mint coral]

I got fully loaded in tart while trying to do ME one time

[latent moon]

lmfao close enough

[jovial forum]

wait..

guys

i got full boons

and hes not even fighting me

WHAT

[mint coral]

enjoy the ride back home

[jovial forum]

WHAT

😭

IMSO SAD

the instant i got out of chat lock i started throwing fists but he DIDNT FIGT ME

please tell me i didnt beat the game

SHES COMING HOME?!

OH MY GODDDD

OH MY GOD WHAT

[stiff obsidian]

damn

[brisk trail]

i have made deathly mistake

no athena boon

guys

top 10 hades voicelines

[stone rune]

bottom 10

the ones where furies make rta worse

[stiff obsidian]

whats that

[stone rune]

when they decide to stand ther for severa. seconds

[jovial forum]

bro wait i beat the game do i still get to play

what happens now

[fervent radish]

Just continue with the story a bit longer

[jovial forum]

okay

im so happy this game was amazing

[fervent radish]

You get to play as much as you want dw

Real

[jovial forum]

oh theyre just telling me

ok

[brisk trail]

10. "Murder" - Tisiphone
11. "Murderer" -Tisiphone
12. "Murrrrdeerrrr" -Tisiphone
13. "Murrrrr..." - Tisiphone
14. "Mur.. Murr..." - Tisiphone
15. "Muuuurrrderrrerrr" - Tisiphone
16. "M-Murrder" - Tisiphone
17. "MURDERER!!" - Tisiphone
18. "Murrderrerr..." - Tisiphone
19. "Come." - Zagreus

[jovial forum]

i love tis

i wonder how her voice actor felt in the booth

[fervent radish]

It was just Darren korb doing tis as well

[brisk trail]

probably like a murderer

[fervent radish]

He’s just that good

[jovial forum]

murr....murdder....MUDRERER!

id get so sick of saying it over and over

[brisk trail]

real

[jovial forum]

SHES SO PRETTY OMG

[brisk trail]

guys

never ever

fight tisiphone without an athena

boon

[tawdry fossil]

going for a boonless run, can i alter miniboss rooms to not give me a boon?

[stone rune]

no

its basically impossible to do a complete run without ever getting boons

the way we considered a run boonless was if you never benefitted from a boon

so you cant take anything that will help you

if u take like special boon u have to not press special

[tawdry fossil]

thats what ive been trying to do but its tough

[stone rune]

its still rng

[tawdry fossil]

i switched from fated authority to the other one so i can atleast alter the styx rooms

my last run all of them were boon rooms so i had to reset

[brisk trail]

bro

if that was possible

would be crazy

and if you turn up the heat to max

[stone rune]

there are already like 50 heat runs boonless mirrorless

[stiff obsidian]

64 soon

[tawdry fossil]

so i can somehow beat 32 heat first try BUT TINY VERMIN IN A BOONLESS RUN MAKES ME LOSE 2 DDs

[tawdry fossil]

can i atleast alter styx miniboss rooms to not give me boons

[brisk trail]

dunno

[tawdry fossil]

BRO

I JUST GOT THE SATYR SACK AND I HAVE ONE BOON

AND I CANT DO ANYTHING NOW😭

[fervent radish]

What’s the boon lol

[tawdry fossil]

phalanx shot

wtvr im ab to die anyway

how is this harder than any run ive done

[fervent radish]

Oh just don’t cast lol

[tawdry fossil]

are the odds to actually have no boons by the end slim?

[fervent radish]

Oh do you want the dialogue

[tawdry fossil]

i was doing this cuz i thought itd take maybe 2-3 attempts

yea j the dialogue

[fervent radish]

That’s rough

[tawdry fossil]

i lost anyway

[fervent radish]

Uhh

[tawdry fossil]

this shud not have been that tough

[fervent radish]

Unfortunate

What weapon

[tawdry fossil]

have u attempted a boonless run?

styx was the only issue

[fervent radish]

I actually haven’t

[tawdry fossil]

almost all the rooms are boons or minibosses so its really rare to reroll

i only got back into hades to play heat, reached my goal and now idk what to do

[fervent radish]

That, hitless, mirror less, and fresh file are the challenges I have as goals

Do more heat

Speedrun

[tawdry fossil]

alrdy did speedrunning that was like my main focus when i first started playing the game

after hitting sub 9 i think i stopped for like a year and j got back

[latent moon]

more heat is the general answer lmao

otherwise there's other challenge runs like boonless, mirrorless, fresh file

[tawdry fossil]

lmfao yeah

[tawdry fossil]

yea ill see how high i can get with eris

[latent moon]

there's not much else to that other than like idk one handed

[tawdry fossil]

i really just need to find a new game

[latent moon]

play with your feet lmao

[tawdry fossil]

hey

ive done that with a game

why not with hades

[latent moon]

true

someone did 50 heat zeus or something with 1 hand

[tawdry fossil]

lmao i j tried doing the inputs its rlly not too hard

i just have to move my hand to the joystick really fast

[latent moon]

it was done on keyboard so it was a lot easier

[tawdry fossil]

tmr ill try to directly do 40 heat

idk if its worth slowly going thru each level its too much time

[latent moon]

they had special bound to q so it was pretty doable for 1 hand

[tawdry fossil]

oh true

its not too bad on this its just really hard to maneuver properly

[fervent radish]

The jumps are usually 32, 40, 45/50, 56, 60, 62, 64

Don’t do one at a time lol

That sounds like pain

[latent moon]

tbf the range of 50-60 is pretty variable

[tawdry fossil]

anyone here played deadcells? ik its not on-topic but im wondering if i should give it a shot just cuz of how fun hades was

[latent moon]

you can kinda just take whatever in that

[tawdry fossil]

yea takes too long

[latent moon]

dead cells is a very hard game but is very good

[tawdry fossil]

32 was actually a really nice challenge

[brisk trail]

play with your left hand on the mouse and right hand on the keyboard if you're right handed or vice versa

[tawdry fossil]

tbf i did like almost 70 runs in between of just speedruns

[latent moon]

harder than hades imo with more variety but very fun

[tawdry fossil]

but still

[tawdry fossil]

is it like actually similar in terms of gameplay

hades isnt really a traditional roguelike from what ive seen

[rustic vale]

To Hades?

[tawdry fossil]

i mainly played it for the story

[tawdry fossil]

yeah

[rustic vale]

One is a 2d platformer

And the other is Hades

[tawdry fossil]

ive never seen any gameplay of dead cells shush

wtvr ill keep looking for something similar

hades 2 literally could not come out any sooner

[rustic vale]

Hades II whenever it comes out will likely have sinulae gsmepkau

[latent moon]

they're very different games

[tawdry fossil]

no way🥶

[latent moon]

the only transferable skills would be like reaction time

[tawdry fossil]

eh then i probably wont play it

[latent moon]

maybe some other things but like it's still a really good game

[tawdry fossil]

dying in hades never really mattered considering each death actually progressed the story

[latent moon]

on the other hand, most games are not hades

[tawdry fossil]

like over a 100 runs in and i only recently found the storyline with ||nyx and chaos||

[latent moon]

there's like a "story" in dead cells that you can piece together through dialogue within the run tho

[tawdry fossil]

thats true

[brisk trail]

erm guys

do i get the aspect of guan yu

[latent moon]

but it's not like an active storyline like hades, it's kinda just pieces of the past sorta story

[tawdry fossil]

like im being so fr ive never found a game where i enjoyed the actual combat this much

[tawdry fossil]

have you spoken to achilles yet?

[brisk trail]

yeah

he told me to say the funny words

[latent moon]

dead cells combat flow is similar to hades kinda actually

it's very smooth

[tawdry fossil]

eh then nvm hades is like the only game ive played totally blind

[latent moon]

none of it really feels jank and everything kinda just works

[tawdry fossil]

didnt even know about redacted

[tawdry fossil]

2d platformer combat just sounds kinda eh to me

i might give it a shot in the summer

dont got much to do anyway

[sage sphinx]

Blizzard shot is not compatible with Beo right?

[latent moon]

nope

[rustic vale]

What

There are games other than Hades

?????

[stiff obsidian]

yeah

[drowsy linden]

ofc its not a roguelike its a roguelite

[rustic vale]

Most ppl refer to roguelites when they say roguelike anyways tbh

[drowsy linden]

there is a solid story if you can beat 5bc

and do a tiny bit of piecing together

[latent moon]

oh yeah i haven't gotten that far lmao

[sage sphinx]

have any of you guys played Lysfanga yet?

[drowsy linden]

never even heard of it

[tepid light]

lysfanga deez nuts

[bright totem]

Updog

[stiff obsidian]

going to go through r/hadesthegame

[stone rune]

why would you do that

saw a guy post about chiron ME

[stiff obsidian]

done going through r/hadesthegame

[stone rune]

gg

[fervent radish]

Relentless and dire misfortune maybe?

Idk

[stone rune]

still sounds garbo

[fervent radish]

Yeah

[latent moon]

yeah iirc they had dire misfortune lmao

[agile ether]

Someone can explain me why Gilgamesh aspect is for the community a low tier weapon?

[stone rune]

it has garbage damage

and is very unsafe

with the awful short dashes with increased delay

its just absolutely horrendous garbo tier aspect

[fervent radish]

It’s fun for dash only and that’s about it

[maiden narwhal]

wow

gloves really suck

[stiff obsidian]

🙂

[maiden narwhal]

lol learning to play ruined me

i used to love the gloves

[latent moon]

i mean they're still fine

[proper tusk]

thats so real

[latent moon]

ME or zap is still strong

[proper tusk]

they were my second favorite weapon but now i know how high your damage can be with every weapon so fists feels unusable without merciful end

[maiden narwhal]

i guess yeah but gilg is just.. horrible

[latent moon]

play high heat fists then you can't rely on ME lmao

that's a gilga issue not a fists issue

[proper tusk]

how high is high heat

[latent moon]

however high where you struggle with

[maiden narwhal]

fair

[latent moon]

to the point where you cant rely on ME to get runs in

[maiden narwhal]

i can try talos

the beloved

[proper tusk]

fists was my easiest weapon for 32 heat

no idea why

[maiden narwhal]

why would you say that

now i feel the need to 32 with evert weapon

[proper tusk]

lmfao my bad

[maiden narwhal]

my god imagine 32 with the bow

[stiff obsidian]

fist was my first 32

but my last unmodded 45

[proper tusk]

i didnt feel complete without having all the heat numbers on the victory screen being the same

[proper tusk]

honestly not bad at all

[maiden narwhal]

if it's rama sure

[proper tusk]

i used rama and got giant crits and just did dash back dash strikes

yea idk about the other aspects

[latent moon]

all the bows are fine for 32

everything is fine for 32

[proper tusk]

my first bow clear was chiron and i havent touched chiron or hera since then

i have no idea how to play them lol

[maiden narwhal]

hades, the game:
EVERYTHING IS FINE

[latent moon]

i mean for 32 yeah

[stone rune]

32 all wep is pretty shrimple

i did it within 100 clears

[maiden narwhal]

i think i'm gonna try hera at least load this something different

[latent moon]

every aspect can clear 40 with enough like practice and game knowledge

[stiff obsidian]

i got 1 clear in my first 100 attempts

[stone rune]

how

[stiff obsidian]

im bad

also first time using a mouse ever

[proper tusk]

how is hades with a mouse

ive never tried

[stone rune]

fine

[latent moon]

kbm hades is fine

[proper tusk]

i feel like itd be great for aiming rail special but i cant really think of any other big differences

[stiff obsidian]

YEP

[latent moon]

bull rush precision

[stiff obsidian]

unless you are me

then your specials vanish into thin air

[latent moon]

to my knowledge all the people who've cleared 64 are kbm lol

[proper tusk]

for me using dash strikes as my main attack feels pretty clunky with controller even if i bind dash to a trigger or something

[latent moon]

most people kept the dash and attack as default and roll their thumb

like the bendy part stays on dash and the upper part is on attack

[proper tusk]

yea thats what i do usually

well

the reverse of that

and it works fine but not great

[steep condor]

common opinion among people who clear 50+ heat or do world record speedrunning:

[latent moon]

i mean like it's quite literally true tho

if you want to you can do 32 heat on anything

granted not a horrendous pact

yeah 32 heat is hard but it's not at the point where you are highly encouraged to go meta

[steep condor]

i still fail at it with aspects i don't like due to being impatient (and too stubborn to use battie over mort lol)

since i've done 40+, 32 does seem easy to me too. i get what you mean. but y'all must realize how insane this "_ is free" talk must sound to newer / normal players

[latent moon]

i never say it's free

that's just jazz

[stone rune]

imean it kinda is thoguh

[latent moon]

(point proven)

[steep condor]

ok, you said "fine", that sounds like the same thing to me

i don't mean this as criticism btw, just saying

[latent moon]

fine and free are very different things lmao

free means easy win, fine is like yeah that works

[tepid light]

classic jazz