h1-discussion

[stiff obsidian]

tbh

[latent moon]

technically not a valid 50 clear but would be funny

40 is doable yeah

[stiff obsidian]

ohhhh i forgot about that

[latent moon]

50 is funny

[stiff obsidian]

the 10 run thing

[latent moon]

yeah

[stiff obsidian]

they dont even have ri unlocked yet

because they havent unlocked full mirror

[latent moon]

oh right

welp

40 is doable

still funny tho

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955723583714365480/1196325183661801532/image.png?ex=65b737a6&is=65a4c2a6&hm=2686a29adcbce28f5a59bc9498d993ea17fc2393e1a7e9eeb1970216d638f532&

[stone rune]

make them sub6 before run 10

[stiff obsidian]

real

[lavish sorrel]

no

[stiff obsidian]

apparently it was a 5 sack

[main glen]

who is the usual person that we all agree is a cool dude in hades

[stiff obsidian]

me

[main glen]

im sorry i dont know you 😦

i know achilles though

[stiff obsidian]

😔

[steep condor]

everyone but theseus is cool

[rustic vale]

Asterius

[upper wolf]

zag

[stray shard]

my best time is 26 minutes {in game timer} is that good?

[lavish sorrel]

if you've beaten the game just a few times, 26 minutes is pretty good! if you're looking to go fast (10 minutes or so), then consider joining the hades speedrunning server.

[rustic vale]

If you’re trying to keep it to casual play then 12-15 minutes is probably where you want to aim

[main glen]

ive had my first clear clocked in at around 28-30 minutes, my second at 22 minutes and my third at 16 minutes

[main glen]

would you mind sending me the invite ? i cant find it online

[lavish sorrel]

on the speedrun.com page

[main glen]

thanks !

[mint coral]

Also pinned in #self-promotion

[steep condor]

i will never be able to speedrun because i have to destroy all the vases. at how many hours of gameplay did that stop being a thing for y'all?

[lavish sorrel]

0

[mint coral]

Why would I destroy some fine china

(unless it has gold)

[steep condor]

🤯

[stiff obsidian]

i did that for a very long time

[opaque fable]

i've never bothered to

[mint coral]

At most I did that when using 's keepsake

[opaque fable]

i'll even accidentally skip gold vases

[mint coral]

Which I did like once

[drowsy linden]

took until my like 3rd clear to stop using harpy feather duster

[opaque fable]

speedrunners do not stop for gold vases right

[mint coral]

Not to the point of going out of my way to break them at least

Unless is the niche moment of "break the one vase to afford the boon"

[steep condor]

oh i'm not using that, it's just, it's relaxing eg before the heroes fight

[opaque fable]

no time for that on td3

[mint coral]

Depends what are the other pacts

I can think of various td3 runs to waste time on that

Or ig my case of breaking vases is doing charon in tart

[stiff obsidian]

i used to break every single pot because i didnt know gold pots looked different, i thought every pot had a smallchance to drop gold

[opaque fable]

i mean on my 20 heat pacts i definitely have the time but i just speed through

tryna get the good habits yknow

maybe i should rebind pause on pc esc is a little far away

[stiff obsidian]

esc is fine

[mint coral]

Speaking of habits I should break mine

I'm glad my pb wasn't recorded lol

Or you would see me spam the pause button at any moment

[stiff obsidian]

do you record runs to submit them

or just to watch them

[mint coral]

I would love to record to submit them

But both of my recent pbs have been the "eh might as well do 1 run"

[lavish sorrel]

[mint coral]

So no death to show and didn't record in first place

[stone rune]

ABKYBR

[lavish sorrel]

ABC

[stone rune]

Always
Be
Killing
Yourself
Before
Runs

[stiff obsidian]

instructions unclear-\

[mint coral]

Just do another run, got it

[lavish sorrel]

instructions unclear, lost the run instead, then quit game out of sadness

[stiff obsidian]

:suskayagreegebusiness:

☹️

[fossil sphinx]

Am I the only one who thinks flurry jab with sea storm is insanely good

[lavish sorrel]

poseidon attack

[mint coral]

Zeus attack with extra steps

[opaque fable]

Anyone who thinks sea storm is insanely good has never played with regular zeus cores

[stiff obsidian]

sea storm is insanely good

my chiron clear 🧌

[upper wolf]

sea storm is insanely good ! Even slightly more than just a zeus attack. Which just needs one boon instead of a duo. So can be done earlier and more often.

[mint coral]

Good but rekt by having the dash removed as requisite

And is not ME good where people will still go for it anyways

Just as a if the chance shows up

[latent moon]

sea storm is a supporting duo, not a build duo

it's like not bad but you'd only go for it if you dont have anything better to do with pos/zeus boons

[opaque fable]

Requires p 🤮 seidon strike/flourish

[latent moon]

well cast and call work

[opaque fable]

True enough

[latent moon]

most of the time the call is kinda eh but for melee weapons it's not bad

so could be a fine take

although you'd like

rather take shoals lmao

at least if you dont have a fear for dying

[lavish sorrel]

pos call kinda top tier for safety

[latent moon]

pos call is a panic button and/or repositioning sorta thing

just happens to deal good damage while you're at it lmao

for high heat i think i used it to break pots at one point

[opaque fable]

I ought to consider it more often

Better than athena call for that purpose?

[lavish sorrel]

depends on build imo

[mint coral]

Pos call my beloved

[latent moon]

no athena call is the best

for survivability

i think it lasts longer?

but it also doesn't drop your dps since you can still do your main attacks

[opaque fable]

1.5 by base iirc

[upper wolf]

pos cast is ok filler

if you don't need an ares duo

[lavish sorrel]

counterargument, rip current

[latent moon]

lmao how much longer does it make the call last

[lavish sorrel]

1 second at common without poms

[latent moon]

oh dang

still less damage i guess but it is more useful in rooms lmao

[mint coral]

Rip current is a myth

[opaque fable]

Real

I still don't have the prophecy

200 runs in

[mint coral]

It would help if call didn't open all the other poseidom boons lol

But when it appears

[stiff obsidian]

can be build duo on chiron

probably the only place it works

[opaque fable]

Sea storm has no cd?

[latent moon]

isn't conc volley doing most of the heavy lifting there

[mint coral]

It has

[latent moon]

sea storm chiron just lets you proc jolted on the special instead of needing something else lmao

[stiff obsidian]

yeah but lightning is just so good with jolted it does significant damage too

[lavish sorrel]

splash gilga and by extension dash only

[stiff obsidian]

but thats not a build

thats a meme

[upper wolf]

isn't chiron a meme

[stiff obsidian]

the aspect yes but sea storm on special is valid

[upper wolf]

also if you just want jolted on special, why not just go zeus special ? You take your two lightning bolts and be happy about it

[stiff obsidian]

its how i cleared 45

with early shoals it becomes really easy

[lavish sorrel]

sir, splash gilga is the second-best gilga time iirc

[upper wolf]

I guess I'll have to try

[stiff obsidian]

still mem 🧌

[upper wolf]

fair

[stiff obsidian]

because then you miss out on the 150%

[upper wolf]

oh

thought poseidon flourish was less bonus

seems legit

[lavish sorrel]

epic poseidon spec is actually p good damage

just jank usually

[upper wolf]

oh gotcha

strike is pitiful though, right ? However that word is written

[lavish sorrel]

correct spelling

[upper wolf]

ngl I just got stuck at "poseidon % boon sucks", checked it once, then never again

[lavish sorrel]

pity -> pitiful

[stiff obsidian]

yeah poseidon has second highest % special i think?

[upper wolf]

wow. English sucks, but I suck just as much ! Hurray !

[mint coral]

Pos strike is so sad

[lavish sorrel]

flashbacks to my dad spear 32 clear

I'm so dumb I just typoed 32 as 40

[opaque fable]

delusion

[stiff obsidian]

fullfill the prophecy

[lavish sorrel]

no

[stiff obsidian]

🥲

[lavish sorrel]

dad spear is my new least favourite aspect

even behind lucifer and chiron and that's difficult to do

[stone rune]

whats wrong with luci

[latent moon]

tbf sea storm for dash only gilga isn't really a priority iirc lmao

lightning reflexes and shoals are just better options

[lavish sorrel]

level 0 zagrail that can't even get clockets

[stiff obsidian]

i hate lucifer too

[latent moon]

and if you go for sea storm you need 2 dud boons

[stiff obsidian]

but it has good damage

[latent moon]

triple bomb kinda clockets

[lavish sorrel]

nah

[latent moon]

300 base vs 400 base

except you get it on one hammer

[stiff obsidian]

u can stack 6 too

[latent moon]

you also get consistent fast furies which is neat

[stone rune]

you get 3/4 of clockets for all 4 biomes

[latent moon]

dont need insane timing for it

also considering luci hammers, you have a decently high chance to get it

[upper wolf]

also luci doesn't need to be point blank

[lavish sorrel]

anyhow, I suck absolute ballseronis at that aspect which is part of what makes me not like it much at all

[latent moon]

mood

[mint coral]

Real

[covert hare]

tips for farming nectar,darkness,gemstones,etc

[mint coral]

Use fastest weapon, visit chaos for darkness/gems boost

Add poseidon for his boon too

For nectar either do runs with forced dio for premium vinyage or trade keys for nectar

Oh yeahi use too

But only in styx so you can use the darkness buffs with it

[rustic vale]

Buy more from wells as well

[opaque fable]

turn off dark foresight as well

[rustic vale]

Nope

That’s actually going to make it worse

Speed >>> inadequate amounts of resources

[opaque fable]

fair enough

[rustic vale]

and more boons/poms/obols is more speed

[opaque fable]

i wonder if anyone's beat their pb grinding resources in rta

[rustic vale]

On the topic, run speedrun pact with td1

td prevents you from hitting survival rooms

and speedrun pact is speedrun pact for a reason

[opaque fable]

technically isnt that the rta speedpact

[rustic vale]

yeah it’s just nobody talks about rta speedpact

so I wouldn’t expect someone to know it by name

[covert hare]

bro i was having a wholesome moment with thanatos

and he does that fcking cursed stare

its a jumpscare fr

😭

[rustic vale]

Oh profile than

[stone rune]

probably

because most people don’t speedrun

[drowsy linden]

because i forgot to add mm:
inferno bombers-more enemies to deal damage, chain off of, hit(for gy and god gauge), and deflect.
sneak-same as inferno bombers
doomstone- traps can deal damage, theres now another wall to hide behind and wallslam
couple: gorgon can teleport to convenient locations, crusher deals more damage
barge: everything comes at once, you get more value from summons, and more enemies in the single wave
witches: the attacks might be part of a new moveset, idk. you also cant accidentally destroy them
bball: teleports to convenient location
tony: idk what changes lol
everything else: same as inferno bombers

[opaque fable]

i'm not sure tony is changed

wait are styx minis adjusted??? i can't tell

[mint coral]

you get 2 minis

and yeah tony is not affected

same for asterius but that one is more obvious

[rustic vale]

Tony should be affected by em4

[mint coral]

em5

[rustic vale]

Em5 is charon

[fervent radish]

What’s tony

[opaque fable]

tiny vermin/rat gaming

[fervent radish]

Ahh

Real gaming

[opaque fable]

anthony is big rat

[mint coral]

anthony is the big rat

damnit

[opaque fable]

[rustic vale]

Do the other styx minibosses have nicknsmes?

[mint coral]

nah

[opaque fable]

according to the speedcord glossary big satyr is "megasatyr" (never seen anyone call him this)

[upper wolf]

Should EM5 affects :

• Charon
• Tony
• Skelly

vote now on your phones

[opaque fable]

charon superboss where you're forced to fight him before dad

[upper wolf]

pacing wise I'd say after first tunnel

but we're memeing so it's not important

ngl it would be pretty cool because it would finally give me some amount of training for the fight

also I don't think styx charon would be too hard. You should be able to almost instaphase him at that point

[mint coral]

em5 should super barge

[opaque fable]

superboss
we are giving him a lot more than just new moves

[mint coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpdjzSsBxVs&t=23576s

[opaque fable]

what on earth

who looked at barge and thought it should be harder

ok asterius just popped out i'm missing something here

[upper wolf]

omg it's amazing

though I gotta say

[opaque fable]

RAT GAMING

[upper wolf]

it just feels like an average BP2 JS3 styx normal room

[mint coral]

but funnier

[opaque fable]

this is the greatest struggle for a single ares boon i've ever seen

[upper wolf]

nah

[opaque fable]

only to get battlerage

[upper wolf]

it pales in comparison to speedrunners reseting for epic doom attack

[mint coral]

there's this and cgull's let me leave clip

https://clips.twitch.tv/YummyGracefulPoultryDBstyle-EA8X0GLSmkeCSSI1

(numbskulls shouldn't spawn in trials)

[opaque fable]

why was it spawning 1 at a time too 😭

[upper wolf]

BRUH WHAT

[upper wolf]

oh

I was about to blame supergiant

I think I have some pent-up rage about cloning numbskulls/witches

[stone rune]

this is the worst game ever mae

i want a single cshot

onre

just one

[upper wolf]

pretty sure even if you get a single one

you're gonna get barged

and/or 3+ sacked

[stone rune]

i will take it

i jsut need a sub13

a wild boar with half its head chopped off could sub13

with just cshot

[opaque fable]

jazz starting her villain arc because of unmodded hades

[drowsy linden]

unmodded talos rta is a new form of torture

[vague hollow]

hey everyone

[upper wolf]

hi !

[opaque fable]

agdq hosting a race!!!

[upper wolf]

oh, when ?

[stone rune]

tmr

modded

[upper wolf]

niiice

who are the runners ?

[opaque fable]

trash_alena and arclapras

no doubt significant runners in the community but idk who they are

[jagged hamlet]

Must be hard to play when all you have is flippers

[drowsy linden]

new idea: one hand gaming

[opaque fable]

isn't that meg%

[jagged hamlet]

Where's my Zagreus of Hyrule spinoff?

[latent moon]

Iirc they generally do rta stuff

Also they do 2 player 1 controller stuff lol

Last year they did 3 weps em4 with 1 controller

[opaque fable]

wild

[latent moon]

That was hypermodded tho so it was a lot easier

Guaranteed epic Rd kinda good

They got cerby skip for at least one of them

[opaque fable]

what was the control scheme

1 plays movement 1 plays attacks?

[latent moon]

Yeah I think so

[drowsy linden]

but what about one person moves left/down(or up), and the other does the other directions
one does special and dash, one does attack and cast
one does interact, the other does codex and boons
ones does call, the other summons

true teamwork

[vague hollow]

i want a japanese mythology spin off called RAIJIN where u play as Susanoo

[drowsy linden]

wheres my greek mythology spinoff called hades

[vague hollow]

lmao

[vague hollow]

seriously tho SuperGiant

expand the Hades franchise into other mythos in the future pwetty pwease

[main glen]

alright im 30 hours in and its honestly the most fun ive had in a while in a game, let alone a single player game

so excited for hades 2 now

[drowsy linden]

go play bastion

its from 12+ years ago yet doesnt feel like it

[main glen]

ill look into it, but i wanna completely master hades and 100% the achievements, its something ive never done before and I feel like its the game to do it

[drowsy linden]

elucidate on "master" please

as heat 64 exists

[main glen]

i mean

sure

i meant master more as being able to consitently (to an extent considering theres a lot of RNG) clear with some good times

and i also want to explore modded runs and the speedrunning part of the game

[drowsy linden]

expand on "good times" please

[main glen]

between 8 and 12, havent really set a specific time yet

[drowsy linden]

you can get sub 3 minutes i think

or just sub 4

[main glen]

modded right ?

[drowsy linden]

unmodded

it just takes a minor amount of pressure points rng

[main glen]

interesting, ill focus on sub 12 as of now, i havent maxed any aspects, havent even cleared with all weapons lol

i still got time

[rustic vale]

True I need Jesus Christ the video game

[main glen]

im not sure i know what pressure points are... thats not a boon name right ?

or is it simply anything crit

[latent moon]

pressure points is a boon name

gives a small % chance for any damage to crit

but like realistically, sub10 is pretty possible for most players

without mods

[main glen]

got it, it popped in my screen the second i seen your message

im running shield, idk if i should take it or a useless duo boon for economy

[latent moon]

pressure points is kinda eh

what's the duo

[main glen]

lightning rod

[latent moon]

that's not useless

that's a great duo

literally free damage

[main glen]

it triggers when the casts are on the ground right ?

[rustic vale]

They’re making a joke about just critting literally every attack

[latent moon]

yeah

it's great aoe and free damage

it does more damage than what you'd get from boiling blood anyways

most of the time

[opaque fable]

Jake likes to meme about how a lot of things are possible if you hit the rng lottery and pressure points crits on every instance of damage

Oh hell i didn't see shackle explain the joke

[latent moon]

if we really wanna make fun of crit rng just point to damue

(cheater who used increased crit chances)

[jagged hamlet]

Lots of being followed by crowds thinking you're going to sack Rome and never getting any rest. Also the ye olde Jewish leadership trying to murder ya!

Probably more annoying than Cloner + Savior numbskulls

[opaque fable]

Savior are the ones that provide a stack of dc right

God this has inflicted trauma on me

[main glen]

ohh, i see im just not bright enough in the hades scene to catch that just yet lol

[mint coral]

correct

[main glen]

also, i made a 1 iq decision, i bought hammer in the shop fully knowing it would come back in literally any room

oh well

[mint coral]

also I swear cloner + savior was one of the impossible combos

or I'm thinking another one with cloner

[latent moon]

i mean that's not guaranteed

[opaque fable]

Eh the earlier you hit hammer the more value you get out of it

[latent moon]

i unironically buy hammers in tart

for that exact reason yeah

[opaque fable]

If you skip hammer you probably don't hit until asph

[latent moon]

you might not even hit it in aspho tbh

[opaque fable]

Doomed

[latent moon]

i've seen more hammers in shops in aspho than on doors

ofc confirmation bias and whatnot but like

buying it in shop is fine

the only time i wouldn't buy hammer is if the god offered in shop is actually important to the build lmao

[covert hare]

for me the second hammer of a run is always on first room elysium

every single time

[mint coral]

average 2nd hammer moment

[stone rune]

not really

it’s not uncommon to miss hammer by taking chaos

and u usually just end up with a late tart hammer

[drowsy linden]

heat 64 is easy, just win

[fading badger]

Hello, sorry if this is not the right place to put this but back in 2019 I created a simple web tool to create/share your hades build. I decided to bring it back and update it (though it’s still pretty basic) since I recently picked up the game again and plan to continue to work on it. If you see a bug or think of an improvement, let me know! https://www.boonbuilder.com/

[latent moon]

was this the same one that was on reddit a bit ago and i commented that flares dont get registered

or i guess rather were you the same person lmao the whole thing looks different but i was on mobile last time

[fading badger]

Yeah that’s me! I recently updated it so flares should work now (I hope 🤞🏽). To add - The one I posted on reddit was my very first iteration and I decided to update the UI i bit

[stone rune]

https://www.boonbuilder.com/?weapon=11&boons=%255B18%252C93%252C156%255D

how does it

does it show flood flare adn mirage in this link

[mint coral]

Only strike (mobile)

[latent moon]

beo can still pick casts from the boon list, that needs to be fixed

[fading badger]

I only see strike 🤔 I wonder if there’s a weird race condition happening here where it checks the boon before the weapon causing the boon selected to be marked as “not qualified”. Anyways, I’ll look into it

[latent moon]

hera can take curse of drowning on the website, which is not allowed in game

you can also take mirage shot and curse of drowning together, which is an invalid combo in game

[drowsy linden]

noooo hera cant play cod

[latent moon]

also btw the "Key Slots" are more commonly referred to as "Cores" by most players, up to you if you want to change that since it's a minor detail

[fading badger]

Good finds. I’ll look into those. Might be good to note that I added all of these boons and their prereqs manually so I’m bound to miss some so if you find any weird inconsistencies lmk, happy to fix em

[latent moon]

ngl most of them are probably gonna be cast related stuff lmao

[fading badger]

Easy change. I can do that

[fading badger]

LOL 100%

[latent moon]

hunting blades and freezing vortex can be taken together, which is also invalid

same problem with cold embrace and crystal clarity

[mint coral]

Don't forget cod and mirage

[latent moon]

i mentioned that one already lmao

[mint coral]

In my defense

Its 2 am

[latent moon]

oh lmao

go to sleep

[fading badger]

Alright the following bugs should be fixed now:

• Choosing beo should block out casts
• You can't have the following on the same build:
  • hera and cod
  • mirage shot and cod
  • hunting blades and freezing vortex
  • cold embrace and crystal clarity
• Renamed "Key Slots" to "Cores"
• Fix the issue where only strike is showing in https://www.boonbuilder.com/?weapon=11&boons=%255B18%252C93%252C156%255D. It should show the full build now

[latent moon]

parting shot shouldn't be available on beo

also i think when you click on one of the core slots, it should only show the corresponding core boon

like hitting "attack" would only show curse of agony, heartbreak strike, deadly strike, etc

and at the bottom with "boons" it might be more convenient if there was also a [+] thing to add boons directly from there

oh beo shouldn't have flurry cast and quick reload available

it's in the notes but you can still choose it lol

hera also have flurry cast available and is also noted

[fading badger]

Sounds good I’ll take a look

[fading badger]

This is something I already plan to add in the future. Might just take awhile since I need to do some code cleanup before I want to add more things. For reference, I added a roadmap in the footer

[fading badger]

Good call. I’ll work on adding one

[latent moon]

aight fair enough

roadmap looks solid

the "star" section is like a favorites/bookmarks sorta thing right

[fading badger]

Yessir

[latent moon]

nice

[fading badger]

These should be fix. I just pushed my changes and will probably be in production in a few minutes

[finite thorn]

Hi guys, general question. Is there a way to record a run on Switch? 😮

[loud shell]

Imma so annoyed!! I was so excited to play hades again (my computer died) and now I find out it's only for IOS!!!

[tepid light]

what?

[void vigil]

if you have any modern console other than your phone its on there

switch even has cross-save

[tepid light]

yeah i just installed it on my toaster

a new slice of bread is produced every time i enter a new room

[void vigil]

too much bread

[loud shell]

Does switch have steam (pretty sure it doesnt)

[void vigil]

switch doesnt have steam, but it has hades on the eshop

[tepid light]

^

[tepid light]

but what more does a gamer need

[loud shell]

I'm not buying another version I have it on steam once I get a new computer I will just get it

[tepid light]

i guess that's that, then

[loud shell]

Yep

[void vigil]

the ios version is not even out yet, and its through netflix games

so it's a subscription

[tepid light]

What's the subscription to be a mod in this server

[loud shell]

I got netflix

[void vigil]

nice

[loud shell]

Not nice when you have a fricken android!

[void vigil]

you said you have the game on steam though

i dont know what to say, its not my job to port the game

[loud shell]

Never said you were just said I'm annoyed

[tepid light]

wait i thought you held absolute power over every aspect of Hades

Why else would you be a mod

[void vigil]

[tepid light]

wait who is that character she looks adorable

[void vigil]

accord from drakengard 3

[tepid light]

she's ADORABLE

[grave junco]

I just got to Hades and got absolutely clapped a few runs ago

this game is sick

[upper wolf]

it is

[fallen cypress]

Guys How do I unlock the 4th aspect of every weapon other than the Varatha?

[mint coral]

#h1-story-discussion message

[steep condor]

how much health do you usually go for? i generally aim for about 200, but sometimes that is way too much, sometimes too little

[upper wolf]

about the same yeah

[mint coral]

80 hp cuz I neglected hearts a bit too hard and then die to dad

[upper wolf]

based

[mint coral]

But for high heat yeah 150-200 is the range

Ideally more if patty/athena refuse to cooperate

[steep condor]

ok thanks

[mint coral]

Tho pretty sure for my 45 or 50 I got carried by getting the epic hp from chaos twice lmao

Had like 300 hp

[upper wolf]

epic hp chaos is the goat ngl

epic chaos as a whole

[mint coral]

Epic grasp

[opaque fable]

i've been turning over the idea of which duo boon start would be stronger, sweet nectar or exclusive access, and its always EA right

perma hitting purple hermes and chaos would be god tier

[last veldt]

Pom scaling always peters out after about +6 or so, but +20 crush shot Hera is hard to argue with.

[mint coral]

Yeah purple hermes too good

[latent moon]

Exclusive access for purple Hermes and chaos is extremely strong lmao

Epic +1 cast goes hard

[upper wolf]

pfff

sweet nectar is OBVIOUSLY better

just roll purples all the time naturally

ez

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/410968729044647936/901147621987614741/Axolotl_tap_temple.gif

[mint coral]

Sweet nectar to pom heroic flurry strike

[latent moon]

True

100% gods pride

[weary gorge]

I just realized smthin
If Zagreus was already dead from birth in THE land of the dead, doesn't that mean he was never alive? Like this whole game is basically playing as a corpse who tries to escape and can survive for a bit on the surface before returning to dead land

[opaque fable]

Nyx resurrected him

[weary gorge]

In the land of the dead, where dead souls go to when they die? Where only the dead reside? (for the most part)

[opaque fable]

Only the shades are dead, really

Furies, dad, nyx's family, etc are all alive

Zag is the direct descendant of two gods and is heavily implied to be a god himself

The rules are a little different, especially since nyx is involved

[true oak]

doesn't zag just die on the surface because he keeps eating those poms lol

[opaque fable]

The reason zag cannot escape is due to his nature as a cthonic god (dad cannot escape either, as he is a cthonic god by inheritance as well)

The pom stuff is a lie and fabrication in the hadesgame universe

Or at least implied to be

[true oak]

well i guess mom escaped somehow

i suppose poms must be lie

[opaque fable]

Mom just turbo left cuz she's an olympian

[true oak]

is this a plothole? if hell is literally impossible to escape, why is there security around it

[upper wolf]

it ain't

but chtonic gods can't stay on the surface

though Hades 2 might have Mel stay there, we'll see

but as of the game right now, if you're a chtonic god and you go to the surface, you get to die of cringe

[weary gorge]

It's funny cause it's basically the equivalent of house dwellers going outside lol

[opaque fable]

Tbh i can see hades and persephone calling in more help with melonie now that the relationship is out in the open

In the original myth i believe hecate was sent to find/fetch persephone iirc? I know she was involved somehow.

Maybe they also give artemis a call, considering she's the goddess of childbirth

[true oak]

various myths

yes in some, in others she just rendered other aid

demeter used hecate's torches?

[opaque fable]

Either way the underworld family would no doubt phone in help, don't want a repeat of zag again

[upper wolf]

zag is such a gaymer he dies when touching grass

[lavish sorrel]

[opaque fable]

it's so easy to make terminally indoors zag jokes that i can't imagine mel not dunking on zag for it

[upper wolf]

Oh that would be awesome

[fiery wind]

Been using aspect of Achilles and hera for a bit and want to move onto a new weapon, any other weapon and aspect suggestions?

[true oak]

i find zeus shield to be very interesting and different

also eris or hestia are good rails

[upper wolf]

Hidden shield is basically Hera

If you wanna keep to cast weapons Poseidon is good too

[opaque fable]

according to reddit , with 30%+ special speed conc volley can chain off itself

is this true?

[gray apex]

Yes

[mint coral]

One of the only funny things that chiron has going

[latent moon]

The other funny thing is shorter special animation than zag/Hera since it's less arrows

[drowsy linden]

the other other funny thing is weaker specials

[opaque fable]

is the special even weaker

[autumn rose]

theres 1 less arrow

[drowsy linden]

no its 5-1

i still have level 1 chiron

[jagged hamlet]

Bow special: good for applying Hangover and not too much else >.<

[autumn rose]

doom stacking bro fr

[opaque fable]

DIRE MISFORTUNE SWEEP 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥 🔥

WE STACKING FLAT DAMAGE WITH THIS ONE 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥 🔥

[autumn rose]

[drowsy linden]

wait does impending stack with misfortune

[opaque fable]

i don't see why not

[stiff obsidian]

i think i should try to sub9 every aspect

[upper wolf]

I'm currently on the sub10 every aspect grind

It's ok-ish

[stiff obsidian]

yeah i was aiming for sub8 all aspects but it was a bit too ambitious

ill stick with sub8 all weps andsub9 all aspects

[upper wolf]

should be doable

though some aspects are kinda pain

[stiff obsidian]

give me a random aspect, ill start right now

[mint coral]

Luci?

[stiff obsidian]

oh i already sub8 all rail and fists

[mint coral]

Lol

[opaque fable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1190800419203584095/1196963174939893821/image.png?ex=65b989d3&is=65a714d3&hm=c71f2076844e854da7bb7ca56b28c989b9b36502615a131cdd6b205d90e91b7c&

oh

[mint coral]

Idk go for a spear

[opaque fable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1190800419203584095/1196963298529263646/image.png?ex=65b989f0&is=65a714f0&hm=900e55030fe30399883ea9ff67df9685853ca148950d4c1bedcc8d27eafa9ae3&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1066&height=382

rng told you to go beo

[drowsy linden]

athena luci

woops wrong reply

[mint coral]

Alright thegamer

[drowsy linden]

[stiff obsidian]

beo

yet to get sub7 with beo ☹️

too hard for my sleepdeprived self so i will try guan yu

[drowsy linden]

i have yet to get sub 15 overall

[stiff obsidian]

try eris

[drowsy linden]

no i hate eris

its too complex

[stiff obsidian]

🤔

i like eris because its the least complex

[opaque fable]

Eris clicks rocket bomb into cluster bomb

???

Shrimple

🦐

[upper wolf]

What's complex about eris ?

[drowsy linden]

it adds another button to press

[rustic vale]

If fists player can manage it for demeter you can manage it for eris

[drowsy linden]

no i cant handle 8 buttons at once

[stiff obsidian]

⁉️

[drowsy linden]

dash, direction, attack, special, reload

[stiff obsidian]

just get delta chamber and then play blindfold from there

easy sub12

[opaque fable]

It might be an experience diff but eris feels like dog on controller

[drowsy linden]

delta chamber?
whats that

[opaque fable]

Way better on kbm imo

[stiff obsidian]

i assumed they were on kbm

[mint coral]

I don't have issues with eris tbh

[drowsy linden]

im on kb

i hate the precision of kbm

[stiff obsidian]

are you turning attack at cursor off

[drowsy linden]

yes

[opaque fable]

Wait is attack at cursor bad

[mint coral]

For rail ye

[gentle venture]

Found out something pretty fun while scrolling hades reddit

With Family Favorite- If you use keepsakes, and have at least 4 gods worth of boons when you leave tartarus, it’s theoretically possible to get the same amount of damage buff as you would with privileged status

I think the closest somebody has come is 35% though

[rustic vale]

if you have 0-3 god’s worth of boons when you leave tart is is completely possible

you just also need to enter styz with 0-3 god’s in pool

Otherwise you’re reliant on leaving tartarus with 5 gods in pool

4 is the one number leaving tartarus that won’t make it

oh I mean if you count hermes then

4 can make it

I’d been thinking every olympian excluding hermes

[gentle venture]

I left tart with athena, zeus, hermes, and artemis, and then used a keepsake to get aphro in asphodel

[opaque fable]

I've been using attack at cursor for my entire run history and i haven't had any problems

Does disabling it revert it to controller style targeting?

[rustic vale]

In order of how many gods you leave tart with, brackets are including hermes
0-3 gods (4)-> just hit the rest of them in styx
4 gods (5): you can get 7 gods in pool at this point then add hermes
5(6) -> just use keepsakes for the rest

each of these options will leave you with 8, and 0-3 and 5 will allow you to get 9 when including Hermes

But

I hope it’s pretty obvious why spreading your pool so thin would suck for your build

[gentle venture]

Wouldnt all of that mean that it would also be possible to hard read which god Theseus ends up using?

[rustic vale]

For all except the first strat

[lavish sorrel]

can confirm, I have done a singular eris anyheat run in my life and got a 10:22 with it

[rustic vale]

With 4 you can predict which of 2 he will pick

leaving tart with 4*

and leaving with 5 narrows it to 1

Not that it really matters

[gentle venture]

wait so if i pick the same 4 gods across multiple runs he’ll always use a specific one of two?

[rustic vale]

if you leave tartarus with 4 gods

And then force in 2 gods you don’t have yet in asphodel and elsyium

You have 6/8 gods

[gentle venture]

Right

[rustic vale]

I can’t remember but I think you also might be able to leave tartarus with 6 given you get 3 seperate gods from a shop

and then Theseus defaults to artemis if you have all gods I think?

[lavish sorrel]

[gentle venture]

which SHOULDNT be technically possible in a normal run, but its cool that he still has code for it

[rustic vale]

And then you can take Hades keepsake into dad fight with a full god pool, and you now have boons from literally every god possible

[rustic vale]

It’s possible in a normal run

Fresh file

[lavish sorrel]

fresh file would like to have a word with you

[rustic vale]

Since your max god pool is 4 at that point

btw

I wonder if any other underworld residents can see the boons sitting around

[gentle venture]

More accurately i mean the odds of getting 3 separate gods you dont have in tartarus shops ALONG with the ones you get from rooms would be super low, right?

[rustic vale]

well

It’s really the odds of you getting 3 seperate gods from 1 single shop

If you can’t pull it off it won’t happen

[gentle venture]

And having the coin

[lavish sorrel]

no they're all slain by zag before that happens

[rustic vale]

You need to pick up 2 boons from the shop and the third one from the next room

that’s what I mean

[gentle venture]

I have a similar but unrelated hypothetical
Does zag hearing the music in the credits imply he always can? Or is it just the one specific case

[rustic vale]

I mean it’s just Eury isn’t it?

[lavish sorrel]

this isn't just zag, persephone hears it too during the ride

[rustic vale]

I don’t remember it’s been ages

[lavish sorrel]

it's both singers performing

• instruments

[gentle venture]

right
so its actually playing meaning its not a fourth wall break

[rustic vale]

Hades just has a PA system hooked up for both of them

So you can hear it throughout the entire underworld

Idk man you can’t tell me they don’t when Zag also has a gun

Daedealus did it

[gentle venture]

i mean its at least somewhat explained that its a godly weapon so it doesnt exactly matter that it wouldnt have been invented on earth yet

[rustic vale]

Daedelus’ throw away hammers are able to make my laser gun shoot infinitely

I’m pretty sure Daedelus could’ve also done the job for Hades

[gentle venture]

Theres dialogue saying something along the lines of “if humans had anything like this, it would be bad” referring to the rail

[opaque fable]

Isn't that from ares

He wonders what exquisite wars could be fought if they figured out the design

[rustic vale]

Ares is pretty cool

[gentle venture]

i think so, cant place it in my head at the moment

[gentle venture]

the coolest

[opaque fable]

The alternative reality is that orpheus and eury are REALLY LOUD

[rustic vale]

my favourite part were the lines I can’t remember regarding his relationship with Nyx

[gentle venture]

i think its actually a lack-thereof or one sided one

[rustic vale]

Not too sure about that

[gentle venture]

the most realistic one tbh, but doesnt it play regardless of if youve allowed them to see each other again?

[opaque fable]

Yes

But they're REALLY LOUD

[lavish sorrel]

indeed. in fftc and low% speedruns the music is still the same

[gentle venture]

So it IS a fourth wall break

[opaque fable]

SO THEY CAN HEAR EACH OTHER REGARDLESS

[rustic vale]

Alternative is it’s so low they can hear the other

Just ignore the fact that Orpheus has apparently stopped singing at the time

[opaque fable]

Zag argues with the narrator bro

[gentle venture]

Yeah but im trying to figure out if thats the only fourth wall breaks or if the music COUNTS

[opaque fable]

Id say so tbh

[rustic vale]

Aren’t the narrarator and Charon the same Va

[gentle venture]

Wouldnt be surprised

[lavish sorrel]

"The prince's bedchambers are in a perpetual state of utter disarray, despite his lord and master of the house repeatedly insisting that he pick everything up."

"Oh come on it's not THAT bad, is it?"

[gentle venture]

i know zag and skelly, and orpheus’s singing is all Darren Korb, which makes all three of those things even more impressive

Dont multiple characters share voice actors though?

[rustic vale]

The fact that they cover multiple characters is insane when you know how many voicelines are in game

[mint coral]

dad/achilles/pos/charon/bull/narrator all the same

[rustic vale]

what

Blood and darkness

[mint coral]

https://youtu.be/cX56xOTAbiA?t=102 timestamp for just the hades roles

[digital hearth]

I just beat the Bone Hydra and noticed... https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/738275754307092510/1196986825319927839/image.png?ex=65b99fda&is=65a72ada&hm=c3121b95e17d5694511b734ee3b61fcfc6c9f9663c61a9dc7c594c0a5771e1ef&

Would be cool if that triggered a voice line or even just turned red or something haha

[mint coral]

Oh yeah off the top of my head.
Aphro and dusa also share, dem and persephone too

[opaque fable]

wow speedrunning record in the speedcord

[rustic vale]

What is it?

[opaque fable]

owo sub hour

[rustic vale]

oh I thought you meant some new tactic or smthin

[opaque fable]

oh no yeah my message is poorly worded

[rustic vale]

Owo is an rta category right?

[opaque fable]

yes

[rustic vale]

sub hour is pretty substantial then

RTA when I’m playing on an old switch
🔫

[opaque fable]

rail owo

hestia < luci < eris < zag

unmodded too which is honestly quite incredible

[stiff obsidian]

Lmao are the room loading times slow

[rustic vale]

Especially as your number of runs increases

[stiff obsidian]

Bedge

[rustic vale]

it doesn’t help that my switch is kind of just genuinely old

and the switch isn’t a strong console to begin with

[drowsy linden]

aspect of jesus christ

[digital hearth]

maybe if your total stays at 666 you do 6.66% more base damage with everything

[opaque fable]

Thatd be insanely broken

Also why should 666 be relevant to greek gods

[rustic vale]

It’d be impossible to keep it up

[latent moon]

wouldn't even be worth it either tbh

[opaque fable]

As far as they know lucifer is just some guy with a gun

[latent moon]

maybe for like speedruns

[rustic vale]

Even for speedruns

You’d only be able to keep it for like the first boss

[latent moon]

hey man faster tart is faster tart

[digital hearth]

yeah fair, my christian raised dumb ass

[latent moon]

also the 6% would be relevant for breakpoints

even on beo

probably

[rustic vale]

Which breakpoin-

[latent moon]

i'd need to do math to figure that out

[rustic vale]

🙄

[opaque fable]

Isn't fam fav used to pass breakpoints at 5%

[latent moon]

lvl 1 flood flare doesnt 1 shot a witch

[rustic vale]

Yeah but you aren’t switching to PS because you have FF

[latent moon]

and dash strikes dont 1 shot a witch without high confidence

[latent moon]

yeah and another early 6% would be good

[rustic vale]

Will 6.66% do the trick?

[latent moon]

idk i dont want to do math

[opaque fable]

What's dash strike damage and witch hp

Wait fiery presence is a thing nvm i don't want to do math

[latent moon]

witch is 80 hp

[stiff obsidian]

:bedge:

:bedge:

☹️

[latent moon]

bruh the wiki doesn't have shield dash strike damage

[stiff obsidian]

which shield i test

[latent moon]

beo

i wanna say it's like 30 damage or something

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088591737309638746/1197019733388705793/image.png?ex=65b9be7f&is=65a7497f&hm=3c92ac26be56bfc37a4ea25895a5f1ce3bececfcf1e9f7ccec023ddae94549c7&

40

ri4

[latent moon]

wait huh

wiki says heavy bash is 40 too

do a standing strike

[stiff obsidian]

yeah thats 40 too

lmao

nice

[latent moon]

oh oops

what in the hell lmao

i could've sword standing strikes did more damage on beo

welp

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088591737309638746/1197020280837652563/image.png?ex=65b9bf02&is=65a74a02&hm=f919641aa1a5e5610d3126549e77151251b05ba3bb0f2fed8cf81cd879b71624&

[latent moon]

game sucks

[opaque fable]

75 x 1.0666 = 79.995

Depending on how hades does rounding 6.66% base with fiery ohkos tart witches

With fam fav it definitely clears

Huge time save tbh

[latent moon]

i mean you didn't account for fam favs lmao

[stiff obsidian]

i just got random dialogue from meg in my run

[opaque fable]

I was just considering like hammer start

[stiff obsidian]

i didnt think id get new dialogue after so long

something about me beating her 500 times

[opaque fable]

Fam fav alone doesn't clear but does with 6.66% base

Wait

https://tenor.com/view/snoring-snoring-aneurysm-brain-aneurysm-brain-aww-gif-25678781

40 x 1.75 = 70

Ok nvm 6.66% doesn't matter in tart

[stiff obsidian]

guan yu with high confidence is so dumb

cant even take chaos gates

[latent moon]

dont you have 25 hp

[stiff obsidian]

yea but if u get hit once

[latent moon]

tart chaos gates are like 22 hp or something

[stiff obsidian]

sleep

[latent moon]

well then dont

[stiff obsidian]

ohh

[latent moon]

glad i could help

[opaque fable]

Just heal it all in 1 encounter

🙄

Like are you even trying

[stiff obsidian]

dont have time to be healing

or maybe i do

idk

[fallen cypress]

What's the use of ambrosia other than trading?

[upper wolf]

better nectar basically

once you become really bestie with someone you give them ambrosia instead of nectar

[opaque fable]

Do sources of increased boon rarity (yarn, eury nectar, miniboss reward, expensive styx boon) have higher odds for duos/legs?

[mint coral]

Miniboss/expensive have less chance for duos

Normally 12%, mini is 10%

Yarn/eury/chaos favor/ god keepsakes are all +10%

[opaque fable]

I've been wasting rerolls on minibosses this whole time???

Bruh

[mint coral]

And just in case, exclusive access doesn't boost duos chance

It just makes the roll for epic always succeed

[lavish sorrel]

[opaque fable]

Oh i knew that at least

Damn here i was stacking eury and miniboss thinking i was cooking

Instead it was burnt 😔

[keen rock]

Is bouldy alive? or have some kind of conscince at least?

[mint coral]

is

[keen rock]

Beacause if it is I will add it to a listing site that I am an administrator

[mint coral]

I'd say just go and add bouldy anyways

It'll be funny

[opaque fable]

if you believe in bouldy

he believes in you

[keen rock]

unfortunately the owner have very restrict rules

[mint coral]

lame

[main glen]

lame

[keen rock]

yes

[main glen]

humor is the best thing on a website

[keen rock]

anyway, cya

[empty lintel]

hey people, is there any requirements to get a legendary bloon?

like, only the bloon that is necessary and thats it?

[opaque fable]

bro is playing btd6

most legendary boons have prerequisite boons

zeus's splitting bolt, for instance, requires one of chain lightning, double strike, or high voltage

[empty lintel]

unironically 700 hours on btd6

my bad lol

[empty lintel]

yeah i'm getting screenshots of every single legendary boon requirement

and trying to get to the achievement lol

[mint coral]

https://cpecific.github.io/hades-wiki/ use this instead

or the codex upgrade in game if you have it

[empty lintel]

i want to see when i'm choosing what boon i pick so

the wiki will handle it

thanks

[mint coral]

you can still open the codex while in the boon menu

[empty lintel]

wait really?

let me test

[opaque fable]

yes

i would not have survived without it

[empty lintel]

i'm like playing for 8 days still learning

[opaque fable]

not me checking reqs 4 times despite it being extremely obvious

[empty lintel]

(got almost 60 hours in 8 days 💀)

[empty lintel]

what's your guys pb?

[opaque fable]

11:33.21

(everyone else responding probably has a better time )

[empty lintel]

nah looks pretty good to me

[main glen]

16min as my 3rd run

15.50 actually

[empty lintel]

pretty good

[main glen]

yeah idk i need to experiment with fo2 and em2 to see how faster i can actually get

i aim for at least sub 12

how about you @empty lintel

[mint coral]

6:23 modded

7:5x iirc unmodded?

idk

[empty lintel]

mmm let me see

never really tried to do a GREAT time

just played for achievements/story until now

[opaque fable]

i find that newer players either have ~20 min pbs or 40 min pbs

[empty lintel]

14:36,17

[opaque fable]

nice!

[empty lintel]

not that bad

but could be better

[main glen]

sure but its already a quite solid time

technically everything could be better

[empty lintel]

yeah

hey

we have any chat here we can send screenshot?

[empty lintel]

why when i go for example on the aphrodite unhealthy fixaton goes like "one of the following:" then 5 boons, then one of the following again and 3 boons?

[opaque fable]

technically all chats if you use embeds, but #h1-victory-boasting has uploads enabled by default (though you should only post relevant things in there, obviously)

[empty lintel]

with (2) after the name

[opaque fable]

i think those imply tier 2 boons?

[mint coral]

yeah

(tier 2 are boons that need another one to show up)

[empty lintel]

oh, gotcha

guys, how to get the first fish on the fish list?

[mint coral]

50/50 when doing a normal catch in tart

[empty lintel]

lol

i'm fishing since i ever get the rod and nothing yet

[mint coral]

As in failing to get the fish or?

Cuz if you are getting pure perfect catches is outright impossible to get a normal one

[opaque fable]

suffering from success, truly

[empty lintel]

i'm getting fishes 100% but whats that perfect catch?

is that a thing?

[mint coral]

Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.

Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.

A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.

[empty lintel]

mmmmmmmm

usually i catch with my eyes closed so i just catch with the sound

that way i never miss

but probably never got this perfect catch

[covert hare]

I don’t even understand the point of all this

[opaque fable]

need perf catches for codex/completion

also just better rewards from the fish itself

[empty lintel]

could be a fish achievement out there

[steep condor]

should be possible to get perfect catch with eyes closed, some people here say they do that

[empty lintel]

yeah prob i'll pay attention

[steep condor]

just takes some practice, i get it a lot right now just looking normally. at first i thought 340ms is impossible for me

[main glen]

How do you know when it’s legendary ? I caught a few but didn’t really know apart from when zag said something along the lines of « oh ! A stur… sturgeon ? »

[stiff obsidian]

Check. Codex

[empty lintel]

another thing, when my main boon spaces are full, i can't find another hero?

oh just got the legendary first run knowing the requirement thing

thanks ppl

[mint coral]

The game has a thing called god pool
Take a boon from god and they are added to the pool. Once you have 4 gods in the pool the rest are gone

[empty lintel]

got 2 legendaries now lol

[mint coral]

Is not related to how many cores you have

[empty lintel]

oh okay, thanks

[mint coral]

Tho if you want to swap those you need an exchange or sell the boon in first place

[empty lintel]

i thought it was like, the first 6 main "spaces" there

when it was full

[mint coral]

(Hermes and chaos are the exception to this)

[empty lintel]

goes only the same heroes

but nop

[mint coral]

They work differently

[empty lintel]

gotcha thanks

just have to purge the legendary now

[covert hare]

Whats even a perfect catch

I thought gettin the 3 types of fish in a region was a 1/3 chance

[steep condor]

when you are fast enough (<0.3s) it says perfect catch at the top

[empty lintel]

just get a perfect catch by listening as ever in tartarus

not the leggo yet

maybe soon

[covert hare]

I don’t get it

[mint coral]

When the fish bites, if you get it fast enough it'll say "perfect catch" these are a 50/50 between a rare fish or legendary

If you take longer it'll just say catch and be a 50/50 between normal/rare

[covert hare]

Wait wait wait

How many fishes there are per region ?

[sour fog]

3

one of each

normal/rare/legendary

you need to do perfect catch if you want to get a legendary

and it's only 50/50

[covert hare]

Ah then i already got many legendaries

[mint coral]

Tbf 50/50 was a bug in first place

They were supposed to be much rarer but sgg liked how it turned out

So we chill

[stiff obsidian]

i like how it turned out as well

[mint coral]

Imagine trying to fill legendary chaos fish codex entry if it was fixed

[upper wolf]

it was already an herculean task

... And still not the last codex entry I needed

[covert hare]

Hades spin off where everyone goes into a vacation island and do funny activities when

[upper wolf]

... The last one was anvil. Because it sucks so I never buy it. And I forgot there were two pages on the items tab.

[covert hare]

“ i feel we left something at home “
“ it probably wasn’t that important “
Skelly still in house of hades: guys?

[upper wolf]

home alone 10 : The House of Hades

[opaque fable]

skelly wouldn't want to come anyways tbh

[stiff obsidian]

LOL

[covert hare]

“oh no we forgot skelly”
“ don’t worry, bouldy is with him “
“ “

[rustic vale]

Imagine having a 3% chance on perfect catches

[stiff obsidian]

100 perfect catches to catch 3 legos

😃

[steep condor]

also hades farming sim please

wasted opportunity with mom's gardens tbh

[opaque fable]

stardew valley but walking over the crops kills them

secret td4 modifier where your remaining time determines how long you can play farming sim

guarantee we see new wr times in 1-2 months

[mint coral]

#h1-for-new-players message
@main glen

For mirror

[main glen]

appreciate you

[steep condor]

frustrated because i lost a couple runs in a row. maybe i should get off hell mode and do the sensible pact options but grrr

also feel like i immediately am so much worse at the game when i'm tired or otherwise not at my best? this isn't an esport

[lavish sorrel]

Thinking about one's pact is very important

[steep condor]

i am at <20 heat and on hell mode, so my options are limited🥲

also at some point i decided i need to do forced overtime 1 or preferably 2 because otherwise i'll have to learn quicker dodging again at higher heat and i'd rather just do it now

even if it means dying... a lot

[final osprey]

YESSS I BEAT HADES FOR THE FIRST TIME

Omg the ending of the first runs so sad😭😭😭

[upper wolf]

it is

but beautiful

[final osprey]

Yess

[upper wolf]

yeah it's one of the main reason why someone should take FO (and EM) early

[main glen]

Almost at the same time as you i officially finished the main story line

[final osprey]

So also the first run or the tenth one?

[main glen]

pretty sure its the 10th one

[final osprey]

GGs!

[opaque fable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1190800419203584095/1197296939419574272/image.png?ex=65bac0ab&is=65a84bab&hm=e07dc7b5b5c6e2c60edeaad9eea926f132fbe9659e7b12e94f3a9b6030206af2&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1193&height=671

can't believe it

[latent moon]

modded gaming

[opaque fable]

i got the speedpack

(also the save i downloaded completed like, 6 achievements. whoops?)

[covert hare]

how do you get the prophecy " thirst of blood of the God of war "?

[opaque fable]

i think it's just random ares dialogue?

[covert hare]

is there any requisite?

like being a good friend of ares

[opaque fable]

check the wiki

[covert hare]

looks like you have to kill 10k enemies and then ares will say it

[mint coral]

10k is what completes the prophecy

[upper wolf]

So about a dozen c11 with witches and skulls then

[mint coral]

a good use for js3 finally

[opaque fable]

does em4 push you out of full laser in phase 2.2 as well?

[upper wolf]

Yeah

[opaque fable]

ugh

[upper wolf]

Oh wait

[opaque fable]

wouldv'e died anyways but that's annoying

[upper wolf]

You mean second half of phase 2 ?

[opaque fable]

yes

[upper wolf]

Then yeah

[opaque fable]

note to self: chiron gets cooked by fo2 em4

[upper wolf]

Admittedly not sure for P3 because my brain enters full panic mode and cannot perceive what happens

[opaque fable]

my build wasn't great tbf but man the mechanics were awful

same tbh

[latent moon]

it should, no reason why it wouldnt' lmao

iirc they added the pushback thing so you can't hug dad to win

[upper wolf]

Yeah I assume the same

But I don't have firsthand evidence

[latent moon]

it's in angel's 64 run

[upper wolf]

Whereas I very much saw dad pulsing in p2 with my own two eyes

[latent moon]

near the end of the fight she was pushed against a wall by lazers

[upper wolf]

I should finish watching it someday