h1-discussion

[drowsy linden]

i love it when tis does a smokescreen

[abstract wave]

Ok but Theseus is a pushover

It's not even funny how predictable he is

Half the fight is me dodging the god call he uses

[latent moon]

i mean he's not meant to be difficult, just annoying imo

[rustic vale]

Certainly kot the best gameplay but

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1192307245149605958/RPReplay_Final1704338515.mov?ex=65a899a7&is=659624a7&hm=418b991c9a072d70de1f04135b889a33747004d9399a4b0cb6e2c4dd7068b237&

[opaque fable]

thesus exists to zone you so asterius can blast you

[latent moon]

the hard part is the fact that it's a 2v1 and one of them is chasing you down while the other one is ranged support (generally)

[rustic vale]

That video might be a spoiler

[abstract wave]

I always kill Asterius first. He's pretty predictable

[latent moon]

(nice standing strike)

[abstract wave]

I think the fact both of thm are fairly easy to deal with is to mke up for the fact it's a 2 on 1

[rustic vale]

Not the best gameplay ik

[opaque fable]

idk man

[abstract wave]

Why are the three of them there

I'm scared

[opaque fable]

asterius charge on fo2 feels impossible to dodge

[abstract wave]

What's fo

[drowsy linden]

forced overtime

[runic jungle]

I wish I had your talent lol.
I always be forgetting to utilize the dash strike with the bow.
I typically just do the charged strike.
Especially if I have Artemis boons

[opaque fable]

not to mention he never seems to slam pillar correctly

he keeps sliding around it

[abstract wave]

What is em

[drowsy linden]

20% more speed on everything enemy related per rank, multiplicative

[opaque fable]

i try it and it doesn't work

[abstract wave]

Oh, I've seen him do that whenever I kill Theseus first for some reason

[opaque fable]

my pillar physics is cursed

[rustic vale]

Anyhow this is how you deal damage with bow

[abstract wave]

Get more dashes

Easy

[drowsy linden]

everytime asterius just goes around the pillar

[abstract wave]

Face tank it

[mint coral]

Use call iframes

[drowsy linden]

i use a wall, its just called zagreus

[runic jungle]

I always try to defeat the minotaur first bc idk he actually feels more annoying if you kill Hercules from wish first

[abstract wave]

What is em1?

[opaque fable]

extreme measures 1

[abstract wave]

Oh

[opaque fable]

adds new mechanics to fights

[abstract wave]

Right

[mint coral]

You can also make him crash against Theseus

[abstract wave]

That one

Might fiddle with that

Seems fun

[runic jungle]

Wait
YOU CAN
how have I never tried that

[abstract wave]

[I'm clueless]

[opaque fable]

is there a modpack that brings you straight to the fight so i can practice not losing 33 hp to asterius each time he cycles to charge

[eternal drift]

hey pookies

[mint coral]

On pc you can do save states

[eternal drift]

actually?

[rustic vale]

Like what about enemy hp bar going down

[abstract wave]

Fiddling with files is cringe

[opaque fable]

maybe i've just been on fo2 for too long but i think it's easier to dash through dad's large spins easier on fo2 than fo0

[abstract wave]

Feels like you're cheating depending on what you're doing

[latent moon]

bruh lmao

[rustic vale]

depending

[abstract wave]

[latent moon]

i mean yeah the word "depending" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here

[abstract wave]

In my defense, I'm still new to the game so I'm not in the grind mindset yet

[latent moon]

if you make it so you can practice 1 fight that's not cheating that's just practice

[abstract wave]

May change my mind after another 100 hours

[latent moon]

i mean that kinda goes for any game tbh

[abstract wave]

C'mon I'm brushing my teeth don't make me spill it

[stiff obsidian]

[opaque fable]

i should try for a 40 heat clear soon

[abstract wave]

I like your avatar

[rustic vale]

Just do it

[opaque fable]

not sure where to add 8 heat though

[stiff obsidian]

I like my avatar too

[opaque fable]

dc2 seems ok since i crutch zeus raili

[latent moon]

what pact did you do for 32

[opaque fable]

pinned in high heat strats

[drowsy linden]

but which one

[latent moon]

with fo2?

[opaque fable]

fo2 yes

[rustic vale]

#h1-victory-boasting message

this was what I used

Although

[latent moon]

add dc2 hl5 hs and js1/cf1

[opaque fable]

definitely js1

[latent moon]

hl5 might be a bit rough so you can do like hl3 ap1 if you want

or more js/cf

[opaque fable]

cf1 feels mega turbo sucky

[latent moon]

but that's a good starting point if you want to start adjusting it

[opaque fable]

wait i'm thinking of cp1

nvm

[stiff obsidian]

Hl0 or hl5 anything in between in scam

[latent moon]

says you

[opaque fable]

i can already tell

hs is going to eat all my hp during lernie

ugh

[latent moon]

if you're doing hl4 you might as well do hl5, but hl3 is fine

[rustic vale]

Just don’t get hit

[latent moon]

imo it's either 1, 3, or 5

[opaque fable]

nooo i have to play better

[rustic vale]

0 or 5

No question

[opaque fable]

don't worry i'll just hit splitting in tart

who needs skill when you have luck

i mixed up cf with cp

cp feels dog

cf is just annoying

[drowsy linden]

obviously, just crit on every hit with pp
free heat 64 zagsword

[stiff obsidian]

Modded?

[opaque fable]

also hit hypers into purple rd

if i can luck into 32 heat then i can luck into 40 heat

[stiff obsidian]

Just get clockets

[runic jungle]

Ngl I be getting mad confused whenever zag says "it's the big one" for the Bone hydra boss.
They all look the same size to me lol.

[rustic vale]

Lernie is the big one

[opaque fable]

wow i unironically died in tart

that's a first in a while

[rustic vale]

Every other boss is signicantly smaller

[runic jungle]

But they all look the same size to me still lol

[drowsy linden]

cloned witches moment

[opaque fable]

no it was wretch thug

[rustic vale]

They’re all the same size but he is definitely the largest of any of the floors bosses

[opaque fable]

did not expect armored thug with speed to blast me

hl5 moment

[rustic vale]

Same size

Not same sound

Headache

[runic jungle]

Oh I hate those witches sometimes.
Especially on runs where I don't have tidal dash

[runic jungle]

Oooh

[rustic vale]

Like if I put Lernie next to Alecto which one is bigger

Lernie is def the big one in that sense

[runic jungle]

I thought he was comparing the sizes of all the different hydras not just bosses in general?

Also
Have mercy imma face hades without a call for the first time in a long time

And with the bow weapon I am so nervous rn lol

[opaque fable]

there is no way i hit no spec in 3 reward screens

[sage sphinx]

K, I just did anvil for the heck of it on Hades Spear
Lost serrated point (oof) but then got both Charged Skewer and Exploding Launcher

What is my luck what the

[latent moon]

just get the hammers

[sage sphinx]

I wanted to but got neither initially

Lol

[steep condor]

ugh still need to get blown kiss for the fated list but don't. want to get. crush shot

like i'l start a run taking aphrodite's keepsake to get it butby the time i'm offered it i don't wanna waste the run by getting it

[void vigil]

lol that’s just how it is with the fated list

Actually I completed aphrodites list before blown kiss was added to the game so I had it complete already… really funny I think I was only missing blown kiss

And it took me 500 hours of game time to see it even once

[strong flame]

i tried heat 21 now damn

i'm at the last biome but well

no uses of death defiance lmao

i added the new moves to the bosses and wtf

theseus literally removed 2 death defiances from me lmao

[obsidian linden]

why I'm in a state of when I win, I barely react but if I lose...

[rich onyx]

yo can someone help me

ive been tryna fish

and i have the rod

yet 0 interactable fishing spots have showed up

[strong flame]

it's just rng unfortunately

finally i have the hidden aspect for shield lets goo

[obsidian linden]

life is a b

having to choose between Mirage Shot and Exclusive Access

[rustic vale]

Where are you with which aspect?

[obsidian linden]

there can only be one aspect

[rustic vale]

[obsidian linden]

because one is poseidon x Artemis and the other is Poseidon x Dionisis

[rustic vale]

I’m asking about the weapon

I know what the boons do

[obsidian linden]

Beo

[rustic vale]

take mirage shot

No questions asked

[obsidian linden]

I know

but it hurts

[rustic vale]

Eh unless you still have hermes left to pick up EA is just… EA

[steep condor]

it's a good mechanic to get players to try everything... but annoying when you already did🤷‍♂️ you were early access, i guess?

[keen rock]

hades is hack and slash?

[upper wolf]

you do be slashing a fair bit

But I'd say it's more of a

heck and slash

[keen rock]

hell yeah thx

[rustic vale]

Tbh for blown kiss just run crush shot hera

[steep condor]

my hera aspect still is lvl 0 though

[lavish sorrel]

[steep condor]

new save🤷‍♂️ otherwise i wouldn't need to complete the fated list still

[carmine beacon]

I am trying t play merciful end with Eris rail. And besides Ares and athena i am wondering what other god i should use? How does it synergize with curse of longing? I struggle to find a good idear on this. I was considering poseidon and potentially getting unshakable mittle as a safe value.

[stiff obsidian]

curse of longing is useless dont bother with it

[carmine beacon]

Ok so what god should i add to my build?

I think poseidon is a decent pick but not shure

[stiff obsidian]

zeus /dio call works

artemis call/cast for deadly reversal

doesnt get better than that

[carmine beacon]

This sounds interesting

[carmine beacon]

I am not really getting what is the good synergy with these boons however

[stiff obsidian]

well

its a lot of damage

and a lot of damage is generally good

not everything has to synergize as long as it does damage

[carmine beacon]

ok

Mhh, zeus + ares got a potential for vengefull mood, is that any good?

[stiff obsidian]

you dont always have to go for duo boons

[carmine beacon]

True. But they are funny often times.

• it helps me towards fate completion

[stiff obsidian]

it will probably brick your chances of getting merciful end

[carmine beacon]

Ah, do you mean that getting a duo diminishes the chance of getting other duo after?

[stiff obsidian]

no

but if you have 2 open at the same time you have a lesser chance of getting the one you want

[carmine beacon]

I'll keep that in mind then. I will focus all i can on getting the maximum boons from ares and athena early on. And if i am forced to add another god, i will choose between artemis/dio/zeus.

Thanks for the advice !

[rustic vale]

Pos doesn’t add much here

Because he’d either end up on cast or on call

And he’s fine on call but is opening 2 boons you do not want over Merciful End on Merciful End

[dense hill]

Hello, long story short i'm playing with 2D animations and i've been wondering something about Hades which i can't confirm for sure from reddit/youtube sources.

I can't quite figure out if Zagreus sprite character animation (not movement) is omnidirectional, or if it's rather a 16 or even 32 directional sprite animation ? Does someone perhaps know that information ?

[latent moon]

I'm pretty sure it's a 3d model

[opaque fable]

considering controller players can make him face any direction they want...

[covert hare]

Yeah hades for example sometimes looks like a Cgi character in a movie lol

[drowsy linden]

you already can on any control scheme

[upper wolf]

you can do it while charging a spear spin/grenade/dio cast on kbm+mouse

it's fun

[dense hill]

Zagreus is a 3D model much like any other characters in Hades. But it's a 2D isometric game, where the 2D sprites are rendered from a 3D model at different angles. What i was looking for is how many angles Hades use. I just found the response from Kid_Zomb here : https://steamcommunity.com/app/1145360/discussions/0/1864993755183591660/#c1864993755185620425

"For example, when Zagreus shoots his bow (the standard attack), it's a 104-frame animation rendered at 32 angles. So that's 3,328 frames for that one short animation."

[rustic vale]

This is why we dash strike, to reduce that frame #

[steep condor]

whoa

[brisk trail]

guys question

if i raise my heat to 20 for example and i just beat the game for the first time zag says no point to raise it that high bc i dont get revards and ofc im not gonna get 20 at once but will i get 1 for boss and then next run 1 again until i get 20 if im on heat 20 or do i need to go up slowly?

game is too easy so ye

[void vigil]

you dont get all the rewards for doing it all at once, even if you go to 20 heat you will get the rewards level by level

[brisk trail]

so if i do 20 runs ill get all the rewards?

all on heat 20

[rustic vale]

yeah

[void vigil]

yes

[brisk trail]

not heat 1 then 2

oh okay w

[void vigil]

you can also go 1, 2, 3 etc

and you will get the same

[rustic vale]

Heat 1, 2, 3 work

[brisk trail]

nah

its too boring

[rustic vale]

and you really need to clear 21 times overall

Since 0 heat

[brisk trail]

is hear 20 max or

[rustic vale]

20 is max

after that you don’t get more bounties

[opaque fable]

Max bounties is 20

[brisk trail]

oh okay

[opaque fable]

Max total is 64

[strange adder]

what is heat now

[brisk trail]

ohh okay

[opaque fable]

Not too hard

[brisk trail]

ik

[rustic vale]

More difficulty

[opaque fable]

[brisk trail]

whats the hardest boss in your guys opinion?

and easiest

[strange adder]

endgame stuff?

[latent moon]

yeah

well

kindaish

but after first clear stuff

[brisk trail]

yeah when u beat the game for the first time

[strange adder]

ahh fair fair

[rustic vale]

Well actually

It’s pretty early tbh

depending on how soon your first clear is

but it’s also just in the grand scheme of the story pretty early

[strange adder]

understandable

[dense hill]

Depends how many tries until you beat it for the first time.
For my first playthrough, i would say Theseus and Asterius were a bit overwhelming the first time you meet them compared to the difficulty you had to face so far, and Megaera was a breeze.

[jagged hamlet]

Wait a second wait a second Theseus and Asterius are just Smough and Ornstein 🙀

[brisk trail]

imo hades for some reason is easy

all bosses are so predictible

eapecially hades

[upper wolf]

try superdad

[brisk trail]

i did lol

[upper wolf]

still kinda predictible, but he's gonna 4D chess you into a loss anyway

[rose roost]

em4 hades is the hardest with fo2

I think charon feels harder bcuz u basically have no practice against them

[dense hill]

I would argue that Charon is equivalent to em4 Hades on high heat.

[latent moon]

how high heat lmao

[drowsy linden]

nah charon;s super easy

[rose roost]

Charon feels pretty easy in Ely when u have a build

I can't say for high heat since I only beat charon at 32

on that too on beo

[latent moon]

i dont think i've beaten charon higher than like 5 heat frankly but it's entirely build dependent and when you fight him

[drowsy linden]

has a very predictable pattern(and its easier to learn than dad), has better telegraphs(darn spear jab), and doesnt summon 3 butterfly balls to remove your acorn

[latent moon]

and how much practice you have

[dense hill]

Ok, nevermind. I guess 32 isn't high heat , i was talking around 25.

[drowsy linden]

32 is high

[latent moon]

but yeah iirc charon is a lot slower, he just hits harder

32 is like the minimum heat req for high heat

[rose roost]

^

[drowsy linden]

its like the entrance
40 is pretty good
50 is gaming
51+ is for the mentally ill

[rose roost]

It's the starting point

[dense hill]

Yeah i left after beating it once on 32 with Zeus aspect.
So i wouldn't know about any of this

[rose roost]

but bcuz of how heat mechanics work u can make a 25 heat pact harder than 32

[drowsy linden]

lc4 ri4 is cool

and then td3 and hl5

plus cp2

best 25 heat pact ever

[rose roost]

don't forget ap2

[drowsy linden]

actually it needs hs

its fun to see a good run die to a single trap in ely/styx

[opaque fable]

You lose more hp from lava with hs than lernie

What an awful arena

[latent moon]

Just don't step in the magma

Easy

Simply do not die

[drowsy linden]

until lernie starts banging its head

[upper wolf]

you say that until you get headbonked for 30000 damage at the speed of light

[drowsy linden]

and when you try to run away, you realize its blue lernie

[opaque fable]

Trust me headbang is annoying too

Fo2 hl5 hits hard

Man and to think i could've cleared 40 heat if i brough acorn over hourglass

What a blunder on my end

[rustic vale]

I have at like 20 and 32

[drowsy linden]

dont worry youll do better later

[rustic vale]

Usually in tart

Mainly because I don’t have a build at that point so I figure I’ll shoot for the card

[drowsy linden]

really hoping the game doesnt lock me out of my boonless em4 run

oh boy 4 gods in styx

i hate this game

[rustic vale]

Take a god first and pray for purging pool with 2 sack?

Seems unlikely

[drowsy linden]

nope got 3sacked

there is nothing i can do

besides not use after party

[opaque fable]

i think i'm going to take a break from 40 heat and play some other aspects

hestia looks fun

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1190800419203584095/1192538353552343161/image.png?ex=65a970e3&is=6596fbe3&hm=434ee4d664fe0931b90035eeffe24fec05b61cfb772ba1810f8d8397d8d2d637&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

too ez

[drowsy linden]

you dont actually die

just 5 health per second

[opaque fable]

i had like 10 hp left so

[drowsy linden]

gaming

[fringe salmon]

hello guys, i recently buy a Odyssey Neo G8 (that i unboxe today) its a 34" 3440x1440 in 21:9 curved.
the question is why when i launch Hades, the game launch on my second screen 27" 1920x1080 flat ?

if u have a response or a same situation please tell me 🙂

thx to all 😉

[drowsy linden]

today i learned asterius can deal about 150 damage in a single hit if you get good positioning

[drowsy linden]

i think this is more of a #h1-tech-support question

or just settings

go to display

[opaque fable]

omg i hit the giga chiron hammers and then died to td3 cuz i'm bad

elysium with no aoe is turbo cringe

[mint coral]

Chiron moment

[opaque fable]

chiron is very satisfying until it isn't

[deep glade]

I'm going into the hades fight with 500 hp

If I lose, im terrible and never playing again

[drowsy linden]

how many dds

[deep glade]

I'm using stubborn

[drowsy linden]

well i made it out on 2 health while starting with 390 on a previous run

granted it was boonless

and i played horribly

[deep glade]

damn

Well I just won, went win with 496, call it 500 and left with 62

still had my stubborn though

[rich onyx]

wait so i have to walk up to all fishing areas and PRAY i can interact with it? 😭

can anyone give tips on which areas 100% DONT have fishing spots

[opaque fable]

no it'll be very obvious when a fishing point is available

and it'll play a little "ding" after you pick up your room reward

but the rng on whether your room has a fishing point is entirely random

[deep glade]

If a room doesin't have any rivers in it, it cannot have a fishing point (sorry for being obvious)

[mint coral]

Or when you enter the room if its not a combat

[deep glade]

you can buy an item from charons well to ensure a fishing spot spawns

[rich onyx]

so fishing spots can spawn in ANY room right? as long as it has a river?

[opaque fable]

sure

[rich onyx]

how bout greece? thats basically all rivers and ponds so can u fish there too

[mint coral]

Yes

[deep glade]

Yep

[rich onyx]

ive done at least 10 runs since ive bought the fishing rod

and NO SPOTS

im such a noob

[mint coral]

Greece fish are the biggest rewards

Diamond/ambrosia/blood

[deep glade]

wow

I'm still trying to get the greece perfect catch

[mint coral]

Chaos fish is also good for darkness

[deep glade]

what

you can fish in chaos?

[opaque fable]

rare but possible

[mint coral]

Also a thing about fishing is that it has a cooldown between fishing spots

[opaque fable]

gives like 100-250 darkness

[mint coral]

And yeah

[deep glade]

oh thats it?

for something rare you'd think it would be better

[mint coral]

I mean it's basically another boss darkness drop

But yeah kinda rare

[rich onyx]

just to be clear i only need the fishing rod to fish right? theres not something else i need to buy???

[opaque fable]

just the rod

[rich onyx]

is the some other audio or visual cue i know that room has fish

[opaque fable]

it'll be shiny where the fishing point is??

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1190800419203584095/1192564184433565706/image.png?ex=65a988f2&is=659713f2&hm=cf7156a9f7581af43f7094655a6548473d5c88adfc2a3ea0c139fe236c9672fc&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[rich onyx]

ah ok thats pretty helpful, will lookout

[upper wolf]

there's a "ting" when you finish the room, and sometimes you'll even have zag go "hey I see a fish !"

[rich onyx]

hmm i see, is there a guarantee chance thers afishing spot per run? or no?

[upper wolf]

nah

[rich onyx]

oh alright

man i really wanna fish rng kicking my ass

[drowsy linden]

it when collecting the room reward or entering the room

for charon/story, its entering

[opaque fable]

dio chiron is somehow worse than arte chiron

this is pathetic

[mint coral]

Dio chiron is comfy if hammers don't treat you well

You only need poms for solid dmg

[drowsy linden]

dio chiron is like cshot chaos shield

[opaque fable]

maybe my problem is that my spec is lv 4

[drowsy linden]

no its because its chiron

[latent moon]

Cshot chaos shield is like the same as zag shield cshot

The only difference is whether or not you hit the initial hit to put down the shield

[drowsy linden]

zag shield is usable and you can cope with pulv blow

[latent moon]

You specifically mentioned cshot chaos tho

That's literally the only difference between those two

[upper wolf]

wrong and false and slander : chaos aspect also gives you the soothing voice of master chaos being your very own cheerleader

[rich onyx]

is it normaly most of my mirror is red upgrades

and like three green ones

[drowsy linden]

yeah about

only the last 4 should be green, along with death defiance

the second to last and death defiance depend on your situation

[rich onyx]

ah ok thats basically my mirror lol

[upper wolf]

meh, epic can be better than duo/legendary

[drowsy linden]

beo funny

[upper wolf]

also stygian soul can be useful

[drowsy linden]

i support ravenous will

[mint coral]

Fiery over shadow is also more common tbh

[drowsy linden]

i have epic heartbreak strike, epic sure footing, and epic ocean's bounty.
should i nectar or ambrosia(heroic sure footing is funny)

this is zagshield with dashing flight

also heat 32

[rich onyx]

hm ok

[drowsy linden]

i hate unhealthy fixation

[lucid thorn]

Does anybody else prefer the OE design of Apollo to the Hades II design

The Apollo design in hades 2 looks so out of pocket

[mint coral]

I don't remember either of the designs

[lucid thorn]

In the trailer Apollo is briefly shown

Something about him is just off idk

[rich onyx]

stygian soul good or no

[drowsy linden]

depends

if youre using a build that involves:
slicing shot, trippy shot, or crystal beam, its good
it can also be a preference thing for applying abyssal/boiling blood effects from the mirror

i personally like infernal soul more as its easier to trigger demeter's ravenous will boon

[mint coral]

There isn't much difference for infernal with slicing

Also stygian has slightly better hermes odds

[drowsy linden]

oh yeah no flurry

[deep glade]

oh god thanatos is smiling again

it's scary

[rich onyx]

but generaly speaking no stygian soul?

[mint coral]

If you are doing a cast build is often infernal unless trippy shot or beams

If not is up to preference (infernal has lightning rod duo and the chaos can't pick up casts curse)

[covert hare]

It is also scary to see hades good

[iron haven]

what are some aspects that are good at low level? im grinding out titans bloodand wanna complete a run with every weapon. so far om on heat 3 with shield and heat 2 with sword and havnt touched the other weapons. im really not a fan of cast builds but if theyre basically the only (or the best by far) option for a weapon then im open to try it. so which aspects for bow, spear, fists and rail work low level?

[mint coral]

Bow hera/zag
Fists dem but there isn't that much difference with zag fists at lot lvl
Rail eris

Spear Achilles

[iron haven]

why not chiron bow with dio on special?

[rustic vale]

chiron sucks at low level

And doesn’t get much better

[mint coral]

^

[rustic vale]

it has to be like level 4 or 5 to make using the special worth considering

[iron haven]

hmm okay. then im between achiles spear and zag bow. which is more consistant/easier to farm low heat with?

[rustic vale]

whichever weapon you’re better with

[mint coral]

I'd say zag bow as you don't like casts that much

Also more good hammers than just flurry jab

[rustic vale]

I love zag bow

[iron haven]

is achiles spear cast focused?

[mint coral]

Yeah

[rustic vale]

Ifyou look at the bonus, it’s to the next 4 attacks or casts

And casts with their massive base damage

[mint coral]

You can use your atk too but casts will hit harder more often

[rustic vale]

Get a heck of a lot more use out of it

[iron haven]

did not know that. ill go for zag bow then i think. i can get it to level 2 so thats at least a start and should be enough for my heat level at least

[rustic vale]

Keep in mind to be dash striking with bow

It’s faster dps and lets you get out of danger sooner then a standing strike

Twin shot doubles your dps while letting you play at a melee-mid range range, where triple can let you just shotgun enemies or gives you aoe to hit stragglers

[iron haven]

what build should i go for? artemis on attack with aphro anywhere for heart rend?

[rustic vale]

Typically I’d say aphrodite strike with artemis elsewhere

But level 2 zag bow has such low crit

[iron haven]

nvm i have it at lv 4

so 12%

[rustic vale]

Oh it’s lvl 4

[iron haven]

didnt realize the cost doesnt scale

[rustic vale]

so yeah

Aphro strike with artemis on smthing else

My most recent build looked like this

#h1-victory-boasting message

Avoid the swift strike

[iron haven]

ill go for a run and see what happens

[rustic vale]

Swift strike helps if you have flurry iirc but otherwise it shouldn’t be of any use

since it doesn’t apply to dash strikes

[fast dirge]

yo does anybody have a good strategy for the first escape ? and also I'm at my 36 th escape and Demeter is the only god that still didn't show up

[iron haven]

aphro on attack, should i take poseidon special or call?

[mint coral]

Third option?

[iron haven]

attack and special stronger for first 10 sec

[covert hare]

what do you struggle more

[rustic vale]

Hydraulic might

[mint coral]

Hydro might sounds chill yeah

[opaque fable]

demeter only shows after first clear

fyi

[rustic vale]

She only shows up once you reach the surface

iirc

[covert hare]

actually you only need to reach the surface

[opaque fable]

oh god what a disasterous typo

[mint coral]

Reach boss, not escape

[rustic vale]

what weapon/aspect are you most comfortable with?

Or suited your playstyle the best

[covert hare]

im so glad i played the game knowing nothing because demeter was such a surprise

[iron haven]

sry i keep asking but should i go preassure points, hunter dash, or deadly flourish?

[rustic vale]

what do you have on strike rn

[mint coral]

Special opens their duo and hunters mark

[opaque fable]

is this rail

i would go spec

[iron haven]

aphro on attack and the hydrolic might. then perfect shot hammer and hydrolic might

[opaque fable]

crit bomb good

[rustic vale]

I would take deadly flourish

[iron haven]

zag bow

[opaque fable]

spec still yeah

[iron haven]

great thx

lmao literally next room was a shop with artemis boon and i get heart rend

[winter plaza]

w

[fast dirge]

chiron bow and i am having a problem with Elysium

[opaque fable]

this is the most expected issue with chiron bow ever

[rustic vale]

Understandable since it’s Chiron

What’s the issue in elysium?

Not enough damage?

Shields?

[fast dirge]

both

[opaque fable]

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[rustic vale]

figures

[opaque fable]

armored enemies will also take a billion years to kill

[rustic vale]

chiron usually has a massive issue with aoe

[fast dirge]

the damage is solved with a hamer but i need boons

and also demeter still didn't show up

[rustic vale]

Have you reached the surfsce yet

at all

ever

[fast dirge]

not a chance the farthest i got is to elysium boss and i only got to it one time with ares rail

[rustic vale]

You may want to move over to #h1-for-new-players to avoid spoilers

[fast dirge]

with a hammer that removes the ability of the aspect

[rustic vale]

?

[opaque fable]

hazard bomb probably

[rustic vale]

The only time that would be would be zag with delta

[fast dirge]

yes

[opaque fable]

fun fact you can dash iframe through the haz bomb and still get the bonus

[rustic vale]

Anyways

[fast dirge]

yeah i am new

[rustic vale]

How are you currently building your chiron bow?

[opaque fable]

delta chamber also turbo deletes hestia btw

[rustic vale]

#h1-for-new-players is a channel where ppl are explicitly watching out to avoid spoilers

nust fyi

[rustic vale]

You can still reload on hestia

With delta fire

[fast dirge]

well i use ares attack a lot

[opaque fable]

wth

oh yeah i forgot you can reload on ful

with hestia

[rustic vale]

anyhow

[opaque fable]

bow does... not use ares attack/special very well

[fast dirge]

and athena dash

[rustic vale]

Chiron works very well with dio special and aphrodite strike

then pom the heck out of dio special

[winter plaza]

i think the only aspect i use Ares attack on is || Guan Yu ||

[rustic vale]

since bow has a larger base damage strike, it works a lot better with a +% strike boon compared to ares

[rustic vale]

Ares strike works exceptionally on every melee weapon

[opaque fable]

is doom even good without me

[quick geyser]

38 minutes beat the game for the first time feeling good

[fast dirge]

but i am new so the aspect is still at level 1

[rustic vale]

Oh then don’t use chiron

[opaque fable]

chiron is unplayable level 1 trust

[rustic vale]

Chiron before level 4 or 5 is just reducing your # of arrows on special for nothing

[fast dirge]

then what

[rustic vale]

zag bow

or hera

if you want to use biw

either are better

[fast dirge]

i don't have blood

[rustic vale]

you don’t need any to use zag vow

it’ll have a better special

[opaque fable]

literally equip level 0 zag bow

it's better than chiron which is very embarrasing

[latent moon]

why are you even using the special on zag bow

[fast dirge]

i unlocked all the first aspects of the weapons

[rustic vale]

Then you just focus on your strike and dash strike damage

[winter plaza]

i was about to ask that same thing

[latent moon]

lvl 0 zag bow and chiron below lvl 3 is functionally the same thing

[rustic vale]

and grab attack hammers

Eh charged volley memes exist

[winter plaza]

fair enough

[rustic vale]

but yeah if you want to use bow just use lvl0 zag bow

And build around the strike

[fast dirge]

okay

[rustic vale]

aphrodite, artemis, twin/triple hammers

[fast dirge]

what boons

[winter plaza]

go for Artemis Aphrodite duo

[rustic vale]

I mean

[winter plaza]

heart rend op on bow

[rustic vale]

Heart rend isn’t huge on lvl 0 xag bow

[winter plaza]

👍

[fast dirge]

okay

[winter plaza]

it got me my first successful escape attempt

i can only pass along what helped me succeed

[rustic vale]

If you decide to put artemis on strike you really need to find chaos or rush delivery

[latent moon]

if you use low level chiron instead of lvl 0 zag bow dont you get better attack hammer odds

since charged volley is gone

[rustic vale]

Minimally

but yeah

[latent moon]

what else is gone lmao

[opaque fable]

nothing pretty sure

[rustic vale]

but then how are you applying weaken

pash dash?

for a player who hasn’t cleared yet?

[opaque fable]

volley weaken

[rustic vale]

3 arrow volley weaken

[fast dirge]

but I'm well past my 30 th attempt and demeter still yet show up

[latent moon]

you need to reach the surface before she shows up

[opaque fable]

you need to make it to surface/final boss

[fast dirge]

oh

[rustic vale]

Demeter is based on whether you’ve reached the surfce

I’ve said that onn3 seperate occasions

[fast dirge]

okay

[rustic vale]

And demeter isn’t really important here

[opaque fable]

demeter boons suck anyways

[rustic vale]

she’s nice but not like

the go to goddess for anything tbh

[winter plaza]

grab a Demeter boon to sell

[opaque fable]

honestly i need to be grabbing more boons for uc

[winter plaza]

i do too

[opaque fable]

too often i find myself selling something good

[winter plaza]

it hurts selling my good boons

i rerolled on my way to asphodel and realized i only had 4 boons one run

[desert tundra]

hades ||no boon dialogue|| run

i should spoiler that actually mb

[mint coral]

Spoilers here are fine fwiw

[hexed umbra]

What are the best Daedalus upgrades for the gun?

[mint coral]

Cluster + rocket bomb

On hestia stuff like ricochet/piercing are also decent

Delta chamber gives you iframes on dash strikes so its safe

[hexed umbra]

So it gets better than Hazard Blast?

[rustic vale]

hazard blast… is certainly a hammer

[mint coral]

Hazard is also good for zag/hestia

Hidden rail wants triple bomb

[opaque fable]

hazard eris for gamers

[hexed umbra]

Was my first run with the gun, but I nearly flattened the old man with it.

[mint coral]

Stuff like triple bomb on other rails or targeting system are aight cope takes

[rustic vale]

Spreadfire is nice on zagrail

[hexed umbra]

Was running Hazard and the one that makes you fire off a 3-round burst

[mint coral]

Hazard and delta are fun

[opaque fable]

rail in general has only a few dead hammers

flurry fire and seeking shot

[hexed umbra]

I almost took Flurry over Hazard lmao

[opaque fable]

it really just... doesn't have anything meaningful going for it

hazard bomb at least gives you an enormous aoe and 300% damage

[rustic vale]

Ok so ideally your bow gameplay should look like the first 2 phases of this fight and not the latter 2

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/795659377755422742/1192630956448817193/2024010419473301-C7D8C4153CC9802713604F54C53304E0.mp4?ex=65a9c722&is=65975222&hm=a8f6764e91cd7c8737a468663d4ae3d8b50b4fb1f1aa3fca1d369c478ae6914b&

A good chunk of the damage there came straight from rng tbf; https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795659377755422742/1192631878465880064/IMG_6432.jpg?ex=65a9c7fd&is=659752fd&hm=3b7a5a0dec1c009de5ed50aa5980780bed4734dbe11edcf0a37c65acf2815920&

[opaque fable]

that is definitely an alecto moment

[rustic vale]

Phase 3 was 100% an fo2 moment and phase 4 was her just dashing around willy nilly so I had to follow

Oh gosh I’m about to experience regular lernie

[opaque fable]

regular lernie arena having infinite area is weird

[rustic vale]

This is not sub10 time

Oh gosh

Em0 lernie just took years

also I think I played the em0 lernie worse then any time I’ve done 40 heat lernie recently

Oh gosh

+100% dstrike damage for enshrouded

But I also haven’t hit my second hammer or hermes yet

[opaque fable]

gamble it

[rustic vale]

Already did

Resulted in me turning down parting shot

but I got mirage shot because I accidentally openned it

Most questionable heroes fight in the world

What the heck is non em3 heroes

Ok so I have clips of every boss fight

But my play is pretty messy

And idk if I can condone using it as an example of bow gameplay

[opaque fable]

why am i spending so much time playing chiron when i could be playing rama

as alternative bow

[drowsy linden]

because youre you

[opaque fable]

MY HUBRIS

i took damage on attack on chiron

from chaos

and lost 3 defies in 1 room

can the game stop giving me 3 quadrillion cloning speedup witches

bp2 reminds me of poe archnem rares

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1190800419203584095/1192650826406178867/image.png?ex=65a9d9a3&is=659764a3&hm=5864abc096a32dc298e9bdc344a6e839a4ed3ee99718c8f84f0c26d81a158542&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
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i

am so tired

of this combo

[mint coral]

Do lc4 and drop to bp1

[strong flame]

which aspects are best on gun/sword?

[rustic vale]

Nem and eris>=hestia>luci>zag

kinda

nem is pretty definitive

[strong flame]

nem is the one which removes casts right

[rustic vale]

Nem is the crit one

pos is the cast based sword

[strong flame]

mb

hidden sword seems interesting but idk

it's a bit slow

[rustic vale]

Yeah

That’s the big gripe with it

Sword is pretty simple hammerwise

[strong flame]

fair

shield/fists are my favs yet

[rustic vale]

Since none of the aspects radically change the kit

It’s pretty much the same for each one

[strong flame]

gtk tyty

demeter is fine on fists right? dont have the hidden one yet but seems kinda interesting

[rustic vale]

Demeter is easily the best fist

[strong flame]

perfect

tyty

should i go for % boons on special for dem?

[rustic vale]

if you want to focus on dems special then yeah

Ez builds for dem are like

Merciful end just works by itself and then you have the special to fall back on until you find the duo

Or like zeus/dio strike with aphrodite on special and then zeus call

Cross your fingers for breaching cross

[strong flame]

tyty

[opaque fable]

is +dash strike damage multiplicative with +strike damage

[rustic vale]

Addititive

+% is additive unless it’s +% base damage

Or crit damage

+% movespeed is multi as well

That should be everything regarding damage and multi vs additive

Dmg reduction is multiplicative

[rich onyx]

yo

what does empowerment do for the gun

when i use my special and stand in it i get empowered what that do

how much more % wise? (if its stated)

oh yeahbits an aspect huh

mines level 1

hmm so the gun isnt as bad as i thought it was

aspects for the clutch

[covert hare]

guys i never wondered this but

is there any special bonus of the boon you choose first in trial of the Gods rooms?

[drowsy linden]

no

other than the fact that you get dialogue

[high solar]

can someone explain to me what aspect of authur does i just unlocked it and am complely lost on what it does

[covert hare]

ok

[high solar]

what is "aura dmg" and what does hallowed ground do

[drowsy linden]

big 3 hit combo
the special places a circle called "hallowed ground", which slows downs enemies and their projectiles while theyre in it, as well as reducing damage taken when zag is standing in it.

[high solar]

and what is aura dmg

[drowsy linden]

additionally, it deactivates traps when placed on them

[drowsy linden]

nothing i think

you might be reading it wrong

[high solar]

it says "aura damage reduction: 20%"

like underneath the name

in the aspect menu

[drowsy linden]

yeah thats the damage reduction

[high solar]

oh from halloweed ground?

[drowsy linden]

yes

[high solar]

alr ty

[drowsy linden]

on arthur, you want double edge, breaching slash, shadow slash, super nova, and greater consecration

[high solar]

those are hammer upgrades r?

[drowsy linden]

yes

[high solar]

alr

[rustic vale]

Yeah but I didn’t feel lien it

[covert hare]

do you get more chances of gettin a special boon if you have all of the required boons?

or just one is enough

[rustic vale]

Just one

[covert hare]

yay i unlocked arthur

[opaque fable]

sgg should let chiron get charged volley

[stone rune]

sgg should remove chiron's special modification and give it a different ability

maybe 15% innate critical chance on the attack or something

[tepid light]

but consider

i like chiron's current schtick

[rustic vale]

Or maybe like, it could load the casts into it’s strike and gain +100% atk dmg and size when it does

And then we change all the casts to be called flares

[strong flame]

damn dem fists are amazing with heroic attack speed buff from hermes

[high solar]

which hammers are good for fists

[rustic vale]

Breaching cross is the biggest one

If it’s dem, rush kick and kinetic launcher are damage boosts on special

[high solar]

alr ty

[rustic vale]

Pretty much deletes elysium

[latent moon]

explosive upper for demeter too

[covert hare]

Best hammer for bow

[rustic vale]

Twin and triple compete with each other

Turns out doubling or tripling your base damage is really nice

then 2nd hammers from there are flurry, perfect, pointblank

flurry is especially nice on hera and maybe taken over twin or triple? may need someone else to confirm that though

[stone rune]

flurry is better as first hammer on hera

[rustic vale]

[olive mantle]

Is this some kind of a glitch? (crystal beam)https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1172434955415060490/1192775246844010578/image.png?ex=65aa4d83&is=6597d883&hm=57414dc3f59eb95de0b453bc25b4932ced35a0c9573c2fe29ab155e7a130ed7f&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1090&height=612

[stiff obsidian]

What is the glitch

[next sage]

If you are talking about the damage, it's not a glitch, the damage goes from 50 (only one time) to 10 per 0.2 seconds

[olive mantle]

Why does it go from 50? Wdym one time?

[next sage]

Like when you do the attack I mean, and the default damage is 50

[olive mantle]

ohhhh

okay thanks

[spring tide]

Yo

I have been deciding if to buy hades or not

Im aware hades 2 gonna release soon

And ive been wondering if its worth it

For a few months only

[void vigil]

if youre interested in the story, its worth it, because hades 2 is connected to it and is a sequel

i think its worth it otherwise too its a good game

[spring tide]

I played dead cells

And ror2

Im into rogue likes

Its either hades or elden ring

I bought elden ring for my xbox

But the console fried before i was able to finish it

[void vigil]

dang

[spring tide]

What would you suggest?

[void vigil]

i never finished elden ring, it depends if you like open world soulslike. i found it too overwhelming

[raw herald]

hades is a good game

[void vigil]

and of course, in the hades channel of the supergiant server i would recommend hades :P

also if you like roguelites/likes i definitely recommend it

[spring tide]

@void vigil

Yo

I saw smth

Netflix subs get a free copy of hades?

[void vigil]

hades is coming to ios through netflix

its a mobile game subscription, not a free copy

[spring tide]

Breh

Elden ring be it

Ig

Since its multiplayer

[spring tide]

Elden ring do be the peak of souls likes

[steep condor]

why not both though?

[opaque fable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1190800419203584095/1192842926989000714/image.png?ex=65aa8c8b&is=6598178b&hm=5c1a101d5ed83ca5b589c2f8918ebdc49267cf69babab692a0c93e1529622ce3&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1193&height=671

it's still +1 cast right

75% damage is so good tho...

[mint coral]

I'd take the dmg tbh

[runic jungle]

Ngl, I be feeling like the waiting skeleton meme, waiting for than challenge to show up in my runs lol.
I really wished that there was a way to make him spawn more frequently

Though I hate it when he spawns in the 2nd area
The magma is Hella annoying

[lavish sorrel]

Stone would give you extra snow burst value, but cast damage is probably overall better

[opaque fable]

what the heck

if you proc skelly tooth in elysium patty can give you 4 defies???

what happens when i unequip the tooth

[spring tide]

Cuz bought like half of steam roguelike page this christmas

[mint coral]

Wanna find out?

[opaque fable]

nvm

i lost all 4 defies to heroes

i am

terrible at this game

i need to never play this game again

that was so embarrassing

https://streamable.com/tnw0bh

imagine

if i was actually skilled at this game

[mint coral]

Ouch

Btw to hit both with meg just hold up and meg

[opaque fable]

i swear i think i have like a 40% wr vs fo2 em3 heroes

actually nah more like 20% wr

[stiff obsidian]

🤝

[opaque fable]

ok now i lose 2 defies to armored homing witches in tart

i'm turbo washed

[upper wolf]

nah that's normal

[lavish sorrel]

Seeker-witches are so painful

[steep condor]

fair. ...still should get hades though >:|

[rustic vale]

World record?

[opaque fable]

win rate

my brain turns off during the fight for whatever reason

[rustic vale]

My win rate against heroes is like way higher then that I think

at least em3 fo2

[steep condor]

somehow i alwas felt extreme measures heroes were easier than regular

[rustic vale]

eh some people think that because of the shield

[opaque fable]

ig if you can burst asterius

[rustic vale]

they’re wrong because you lose the shield but gain a massive beyblade on the field

[opaque fable]

but em3 ast blows me up

[rustic vale]

Especially unfun with fo2 and hl5

[opaque fable]

died to pots

ugh

how is my hera gameplay worse than my chiron gameplay

[rose roost]

hera is hard to learn and get used to

while Chiron is pretty easy

[mint coral]

If this is for bow 32 I find rama more comfortable for it tbh

[opaque fable]

rama is probably the aspect i'm least comfortable on

[rustic vale]

One is discount zag bow and the other requires you to be able to csst and strike

[stiff obsidian]

i have like a 5% winrate vs furies

[drowsy linden]

hera is cool

[quick geyser]

@rustic vale @mint coral beat the game again

With Achilles spear

[winter plaza]

me w lernie

[steep condor]

when you turn on damage control, do you still get bonus damage against undamaged foes from fiery presence after the blue hearts?

[drowsy linden]

yes

[steep condor]

thx

[runic jungle]

I just realized that 8 heat might actually be too difficult for me lol.
My problem seems to be that I barely get past the heroes bosses, and then styx is just... extra awful.
It's the stupid poison dart things.

[mint coral]

What's the pact

[runic jungle]

If you're talking to me I typically do hard labor, convince fee, jury summons, middle management, forced overtime, approval process, benefits package, lasting consequences.
I went with these 8 bc they seem like the most manageable ones for a beginner who typically does no heat runs.

[mint coral]

Oh that's

Ap1 at 8 heat

MM/FO1/BP1/HL1 is already 8 too no

No need to add the others

Also out of curiosity what's your usual clear time

[drowsy linden]

youre using a very difficult pact actually

[runic jungle]

Urm on my lowest heat which is 4 apparently with the talos fist it says my fastest time was 31:48:00

[drowsy linden]

fastest time is talos???
@jazz new meta for speed just dropped

[stiff obsidian]

It's a phase

[runic jungle]

It's actually really funny to me.
It only really starts to feel difficult with the Styx area.
Every other location is easily manageable lol.
Then again maybe weapon type is also an issue since apparently some weapons work better in higher heat than others

[stiff obsidian]

Comes and goes like the seasons

[drowsy linden]

heres a much better pact idea:
dont use: convenience fee, middle management, and approval process. you want to use:
tight deadline(dont use it now, just try to be faster in general. by the way, being in a shop/clearing a room does not pause gametime)
damage control(depends on build/aspect)
extreme measures(to get used to it)

[latent moon]

ngl if the problem is the heroes fight and then styx, it sounds more like a build problem rather than like pact

[drowsy linden]

convenience fee just shoots your capability to use shops, from being a whole build to 1-3 extra boons in a run
approval process is cringe rng
middle management is hard, but you should use it to get used to it

[mint coral]

I'd recommend using tight deadline too but idk if your times are bc of your pact/build/practice

[runic jungle]

I am not not confident enough for tight deadline lol.
Especially in the area where those annoying big chariots and the cursed butterfly balls.
Them mfers so bulky and for what

[mint coral]

Elysium is a dps check

So bad builds def will hurt

[latent moon]

yeah this is sounding like a build problem rather than pact

[runic jungle]

Is it wise to get tidal dash over zues dash then?
Bc I feel like zues has better damage

[drowsy linden]

what weapon?

tidal dash is very cool unless youre using melee

[mint coral]

On fists I'd just use divine

[latent moon]

zeus dash can get more damage with other zeus supporting boons, but tidal dash has more aoe and is more consistent

[runic jungle]

Current run I'm gonna start I'm gonna be going with the gun

[drowsy linden]

on fists/sword, you use divine dash
on bow/rail, use tidal dash

[mint coral]

And for dmg tbh ares' ain't bad

[drowsy linden]

especially with scam cycle

[mint coral]

Sword can also use tidal

Or hunter if you are feeling fancy

[runic jungle]

Ooh okay noted.
Thanks for the advice!
I'm gonna try my hardest to clear with 8 heat.
Also I forget, to get the hidden aspect for the spear, you don't have to have it equipped do you?

[drowsy linden]

tower defense hidden sword when

[mint coral]

Nah

Unlock 5 non zag aspects, have reached dad at least once and have list ofinor prophecies

[drowsy linden]

pos+athena+quick favor/smair with arty/aph/dem cast

[runic jungle]

Okay phew
Bc I do not like the spears that much.
Hades spear isn't bad but I don't like using the spin attack.
Usually can't find good openings for it

[drowsy linden]

use achilles

its really spammy if youre not going the cast route

[rustic vale]

[rustic vale]

You really picked some of the worst ones for beginners

[stiff obsidian]

Based

[rustic vale]

I’m surprised that even adds up to 8 and not higher

[stiff obsidian]

Now just add the beginner pacts and it's high heat

[rustic vale]

I thought mm or ap would be more

[drowsy linden]

ri4 when

[stone rune]

doesnt

bp is 2

[mint coral]

Mm/Fo1/bp1 alone is 7

[stone rune]

fo is 3

ap is 2

mm is 2

[mint coral]

I assume it was a mix and match of the 8 and not at all at once

Or I hope

[opaque fable]

ap is already brutal but then you combine with cf as well???

[drowsy linden]

you havent seen ri yet

[opaque fable]

turning off mirror is something i will never do

[fast dirge]

yo who do i need to kill first the bit** theseus or asterius I'm with a level zero zag bow

[opaque fable]

last three lines alone are super good

asterius is more important

[fast dirge]

okay

[jagged hamlet]

I wish the Furies would break out into song like the Crystal Gems of Steven Universe

[upper wolf]

WE
Are the furies sisters
MURDER

[runic jungle]

Honestly cf has never been too much of an issue with me which is why I often go for that lol

[runic jungle]

I can't help but wonder if saying murder/murderer is just how tisiphone speaks lol
Kinda like how Charon only speaks in groans.

[drowsy linden]

murderer

[jagged hamlet]

Tisiphone is a Pokemon 😮

[drowsy linden]

she doesnt actually kill anyone

[runic jungle]

I mean considering how she can't seem to actually speak like her sisters can I say that theory adds up

[mint coral]

You can teach her another line

[upper wolf]

can't wait for Hades 3 when we see her reveal it was all a prank

"nah I can say more than murder, but it's no fun. You should have seen zag's face when I started saying his name ! Even got alecto in, I always say murder with her too."

[steep condor]

this would explain megaera downplaying the issue with her "tisiphone only cares about her job" explanations

[upper wolf]

meg is probably in on the joke yeah

ofc

headcanon approved

[stiff obsidian]

I better be fighting chaos in Hades 3

[upper wolf]

Nah, kronos has a dad

Whose name I forgot

[stiff obsidian]

Ouranos

Or something

[upper wolf]

Because he's incredibly irrelevant.

[covert hare]

We better fight Heracles

[runic jungle]

I will never understand how I play hades so much better when my switch is docked compared to playing handheld.

[mint coral]

big screen helps

[jagged hamlet]

Not shaking the underworld while Zagreus dashes around probably helps too

[brisk trail]

look lernie is cool, but the stupid ass blue head version is the most bs experience in any video game

[drowsy linden]

dont worry theres worse

[opaque fable]

blue head causes rocks to fall right

[mint coral]

headslams spam

pink is projectiles, green is skeletons summons, orange is lava

[drowsy linden]

for big head, blue causes rocks to fall

[sour fog]

there's two oranges

one is lava the other is the smaller projectiles

[runic jungle]

Okay so I thought I'd use higher heat bc I was interested in seeing what the reward was.
Those things in the weapon room I mean.
But after seeing what clearing with 8 heat got you I'm not too sure I want to bother again lol

Can tell 16 heat not gon be worth it

Also, zeus shield is actually kinda wild I can't believe I never really used it before.

[jagged hamlet]

It's an autonomous buzzsaw!

[fast dirge]

people i have reached the surface but died on the hands of hades in the second half of his second health but does he has a third health

[runic jungle]

Hades only has two phases

[rustic vale]

More heat is super worth it mentally

[opaque fable]

your 8 heat pact is way harder than it needs to be

[latent moon]

i mean 16 heat is within bounty range so you're probably gonna do it at some point lmao

[ashen rapids]

well if u use ||pack of punishments and add "extra measurements" it gives bosses a new form and techniques so ur answer is yes,he can but if u chose it||

[opaque fable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1190800419203584095/1193015821241421874/image.png?ex=65ab2d90&is=6598b890&hm=6516e59cf611dc4294ac153c7f4eee7301081cb6f6f4a567db2cbfff712b09bd&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1193&height=671

anyone think i can beat dad without hunting blades here

it's looking a little grim

[latent moon]

Doable

Casts are still chunky

And also arty atk good

[rustic vale]

Just don’t throw and you’ll be fine

[opaque fable]

hunting blades builds are awesome on my account

i tend to hit everything except hunting blades

[latent moon]

Sounds about right

[opaque fable]

i've seen ares leg more often than it

[latent moon]

Well

[rustic vale]

Thats your fault

[latent moon]

If you didn't open the legendary you'd get the duo lol

[opaque fable]

wait what

[rustic vale]

Duos and legendaries are rooled at the same time

[latent moon]

Duos and legendary share the same like

[opaque fable]

oh i need one of his t2s