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lavish sorrel
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and including Arthur it's still nemesis

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(though I prefer Poseidon_Aspect by far since if you play it with casts you have a ranged option to help)

tardy aurora
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so just special, 3 m1, special cycle?

lavish sorrel
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nem is special -> dashstrike spam, yee

tardy aurora
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huh ok ill try it

lavish sorrel
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(do keep in mind though, doing a dashstrike will (almost) always remove your dash invincibility, no matter the weapon)

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so feel free to keep a dash on hand whenever an enemy is about to attack

tardy aurora
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is arthur better for casual

upper wolf
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meh

lavish sorrel
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arthur kinda hard idk

tardy aurora
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what does it even do

upper wolf
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Maybe kinda ? but I think nemesis is better still

upper wolf
lavish sorrel
mint coral
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How better it is depends entirely on you

upper wolf
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big beefy hit that are VERY slow, tanking

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it has pretty good tanking all in all

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In a game where going fast is basically necessary bouldy

lavish sorrel
upper wolf
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and arthur has no ranged option bouldy

lavish sorrel
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one of the aspects of rod bouldy

mint coral
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And a passive max hp increase (another thick skin)

ashen rapids
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at first i was like wooaah arthur now im like meh arthur

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its so slow i dont like it

lavish sorrel
mint coral
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Arthur? More like Smair

lavish sorrel
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so true

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smaiROD

ashen rapids
tardy aurora
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is 3 encounters no gold and then all gold is 1.4x

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worth it

lavish sorrel
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def

stiff obsidian
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depends lol

upper wolf
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unless you're in like chamber 32 yeah

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but if you're still in tart or aspho, slap that thing up

lavish sorrel
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money sure does build up dusa

tepid light
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People badmouthing my beloved Arthur

I cry

tardy aurora
upper wolf
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damn

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hack the game and take it twice lol

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try to steal some power from the primordial creator of all, what could go wrong ?

tardy aurora
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i dont hack the game

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but yeah in tart i got that chais

upper wolf
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reddit is cool sometimes

tardy aurora
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having 2 monitors is either a blessing or a curse for my adhd brain

upper wolf
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having 1 monitor is either a blessing or a curse for my adhd brain

opaque fable
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Is there any specific reason why people aim for 32 heat?

lavish sorrel
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(also funny powers of 2 :])

tardy aurora
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what should i purge, after party (50%), "curse of pain" (140). demeter call (19 ever 0.25 sec)

opaque fable
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There is 0 context for this

lavish sorrel
mint coral
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Do you need to sell for UC or??

tardy aurora
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13 heat

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ye uc

mint coral
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What other gods are in your god pool

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Ares-dem-dio-x?

tardy aurora
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idk how check

opaque fable
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Just look at your boons

lavish sorrel
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what gods have you met this run

mint coral
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Press - on controller, B on kbm

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Oh yeah idk if I explained god pool to you bouldy

tardy aurora
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ares dio dem so far, i got poseidon boon rn

mint coral
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Oops

lavish sorrel
mint coral
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Call sounds fine to sell, could get dio or pos later

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Idk what biome you are in so may miss poms for dio call but still great

tardy aurora
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I CLICKED ACCEPT WHEN I MEANT GIFT POSEIDON AMBROSAI

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CRAP

mint coral
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Classic

upper wolf
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relatable

ashen rapids
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why nyx || fires dusa||?

upper wolf
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never understood tbh

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rule of drama ?

ashen rapids
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does she come back tho?

upper wolf
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||yeah||

tardy aurora
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so the main hydra head can detach from the body in em runs?

upper wolf
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yeah

ashen rapids
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okay!

upper wolf
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who needs a neck anyway

ashen rapids
upper wolf
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๐Ÿฆถ ๐Ÿ›น

ashen rapids
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like hypnos said,u need some sleep

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i*

upper wolf
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we all do u_u

lavish sorrel
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||"Who needs sleep?" - Zagreus when you tell him to sleep||

tardy aurora
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hyper sprint, afterparty or curse of pain for UC goin into elysium

lavish sorrel
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AP

lavish sorrel
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you are not currently at immediate risk of death, right? zagPls

tardy aurora
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hopin for patroclus

lavish sorrel
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SD supremacy

tardy aurora
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its 13 heat

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guide says to switch to SD later on

lavish sorrel
tardy aurora
lavish sorrel
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yes

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it does become free with a bit of practice though

tardy aurora
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so... what do i purge

lavish sorrel
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probably after party, that seems reasonable to me. we need damage, and second hermes boon might offer Rush Delivery

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unless you collected second hermes already and it was not RD

tardy aurora
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no this is 1st

lavish sorrel
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ok cool

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so sell AP

stiff obsidian
mint coral
lavish sorrel
tardy aurora
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I DID IT AGAIN AGHHHH

tardy aurora
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@lavish sorrel is poseidon call worth?

lavish sorrel
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good safety and okay damage

tardy aurora
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k

lavish sorrel
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(not a good speed option but great for the two aforementioned things)

tardy aurora
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BACK TO BACK PO BOONS I CAN REDEEM MYSELF A FAVOR

lavish sorrel
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any seidon of po fans in chat ModCheck

tardy aurora
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if i fail again it again i wasted a hermes boon for it

lavish sorrel
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so hermes will always try to re-appear a second time exactly

mint coral
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Hermes and hammers annoy you like mosquitoes if you ignore them

tardy aurora
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I AM GOING TO COMMIT DIE I SWEAR

mint coral
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No ambrosia again

stiff obsidian
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me when pos on door Pepega me when ap2 gives me oceans bounty instead of epic dash thisiscertainlyfine

tardy aurora
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I KEEP CLICKING E BECAUSE IM ON TIMER SO IT MAKES MY BRAIN SPASM

ashen rapids
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xd

lavish sorrel
stiff obsidian
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real

mint coral
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Just start poseidon keepsake next run so you can get it done zaglol

tardy aurora
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slam damage, cast or rupture, on poseidon

stiff obsidian
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rupture

tardy aurora
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dash strike +60% or 900% to armor, or special kills = +2 hp

lavish sorrel
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option 2 dusa

tardy aurora
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fr? cuz ill do it if ya want

lavish sorrel
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breaching cross is so good

mint coral
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Breaching cross is great

lavish sorrel
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there are two very good fist hammers

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breaching cross (in general) and long knuckle (for high heat only)

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(also if you're using gilga rending claws is good)

mint coral
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Explosive upper is also solid 2nd hammer for Dem

lavish sorrel
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^

mint coral
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Kinetic for ME

lavish sorrel
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true, forgor about explosive

tardy aurora
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i dont understand trying make specific builds

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my brain spasms when i try to

lavish sorrel
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be that your attack using chaos boons, doom effect using poms and impending doom, or whatever

tardy aurora
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what best strat on demeter

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doom?

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hangover?

lavish sorrel
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MercifulEnd

that build works on most melee weapons

mint coral
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When in doubt, ME

tardy aurora
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athena/ares

lavish sorrel
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and you guessed it, with ME your goal is to buff up your doom effect as much as you can

stiff obsidian
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do doom with out me

lavish sorrel
tardy aurora
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drunken strike, premium vintage, or full hp on fountain

lavish sorrel
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I don't have full context so idk

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is the dio attack a replacement?

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if so probably not that

tardy aurora
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1st atk

lavish sorrel
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hmmm

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I guess it's sorta damage? people sometimes cope with dio attack on high heat fists

tardy aurora
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y/n

lavish sorrel
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I don't have the info to help here

tardy aurora
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imma take atk

opaque fable
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ugh, anything i can do with aph/ares/dem/x with hera bow

lavish sorrel
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as my nickname may suggest, I know stuff on a surface-level outside of FreshFile and that's it

lavish sorrel
opaque fable
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well yes i'm just wondering what to do with dem ares

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ares probably just dead god

lavish sorrel
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ares for urge to kill and that's about it

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demeter for, uh, ravenous will

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snow burst missil14Snurst too

tardy aurora
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PATROCLUX CLUTCH

opaque fable
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loading all shots counts as having no bloodstones right

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idk whether it's always right to go aph arte on hera but exit wounds feels megapog

tardy aurora
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hermes with min of purp rarity

opaque fable
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and ofc if i hit arte leg the run is over

mint coral
lavish sorrel
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wounds on hera and Poseidon_Aspect zagWow

mint coral
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Exit wounds should at most barely do smth during bosses

lavish sorrel
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but yeah you want snurst and rav will from demeter for hera

tardy aurora
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3 dash / 20% dodge

opaque fable
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hypersprint or quick relaod

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it's still always hypersprint right

lavish sorrel
mint coral
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Quick reload is comfy

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If you practice wallbug tho, go for sprint

stiff obsidian
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stuck on this screen when i open it

opaque fable
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chaos offering me 35% cast damage or 1 dd

lavish sorrel
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every day unless playing very high heat

opaque fable
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wait i lose 5 hp per shot for next 4 rooms

lavish sorrel
opaque fable
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for 35% cast damage

lavish sorrel
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I needed that context

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yeah that changes things ๐Ÿ˜“

opaque fable
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i already hit 77% cast damage on my first chaos

stiff obsidian
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if i reinstall

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will i have to reinstal mods

mint coral
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That's why we watch the curse first bouldy

opaque fable
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i am a curse ignorer

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i am closing my eyes

mint coral
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Don't forget classics like "can't pick up casts on hera/beo" or just plain more enemies

opaque fable
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i'm tempted to just ball with maimed

lavish sorrel
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enters trial on accident

mint coral
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My fav one is the "can't gain gold" into pool of purging

lavish sorrel
mint coral
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Followed by the combo of reddit post "why did I not gain any gold"

opaque fable
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i foolishly took get hit when you special on eris once

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never again

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i dealt negative damage

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still on this boon screen btw

stiff obsidian
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if i uninstall i rretain my save data right

opaque fable
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bro why is my boi zag blocking my hp bar

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oop

mint coral
opaque fable
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heck it lets break my 25 streak for fun

lavish sorrel
stiff obsidian
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๐Ÿ˜ƒ

opaque fable
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just dash???

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smh

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i can't believe i mistimed that

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now i have to fight lernie with maim

ashen rapids
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I HATE LAVA

lavish sorrel
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are we using Heightened Security over here? DisappointmentChampion

autumn root
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its the most op thing in the game

opaque fable
stiff obsidian
ashen rapids
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my adhd brain when i look at something else and lose focus for 1 sec

opaque fable
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i think my ADD just makes me not position well at all

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man imagine if this leve 7 crush shot was epic instead of common

mint coral
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Is a 20 dmg difference between common and epic

opaque fable
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๐Ÿ—ฟ

tardy aurora
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bought ambrosia for 10 nectar w/l

ashen rapids
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i just give it to than or give every companion owners

tardy aurora
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i ironically just got mort

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and maxed him out

ashen rapids
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Heh

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I always use mort

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cus i wanna see than on my menu to bless my eyes

opaque fable
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what exactly is the gameplan behind lucifer

mint coral
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Same as eris

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But your best hammer is triple bomb

opaque fable
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what so just shoot and boom people

stiff obsidian
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No hades for me for a while ๐Ÿ˜ž

mint coral
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Yeah

stiff obsidian
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Damn mobile auto emote

ashen rapids
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why

stiff obsidian
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Game won't start suskaygeagreegebusiness

mint coral
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You have hades on steam right

ashen rapids
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im on mobile too just to rest my back

stiff obsidian
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Yes

ashen rapids
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will continue to 32 heat later

mint coral
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Have you done the usual verify files integrity

tardy aurora
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wait... if aspects are timeless, they can be from past or future such as most being past owned, and some from future, (guan yu) how does lucifer have an aspect

stiff obsidian
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Yeah

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Did that

mint coral
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Rip

stiff obsidian
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Uninstalled and reinstalled too

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And unistalled mods

opaque fable
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er, these are new hammers

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greater inferno or concentrated beam?

ashen rapids
mint coral
ashen rapids
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we can see others too maybe?

opaque fable
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piercing fire

tardy aurora
mint coral
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None of them are good really

ashen rapids
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i dont really know about that but

opaque fable
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nemesis is like goddess of vengeance

ashen rapids
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i saw nemesis on hades 2 screen

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npc

tardy aurora
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but lucifer aka "God`s" son aka satan as he is refered

mint coral
tardy aurora
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not a greek diety to say least

shy plinth
mint coral
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I mean none of the hidden are greek

ashen rapids
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valid

tardy aurora
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THE Lucifer aka the fallen angel isnt a mere mortal

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does hades lore have "God" be on par to say gaia?

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did "God" make gaea?

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THE IMPLICATIONS ARE INUMERABLE

opaque fable
tardy aurora
mint coral
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I just think the mental image of lucifer with a laser cannon is funny

tardy aurora
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so point is?

tardy aurora
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screw it imma check wiki

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HE IS THE SATAN

opaque fable
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idk if i like luci better than eris but it's funny having a lightning cannon

steep condor
ashen rapids
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yes

opaque fable
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ugh that was my worst heroes fight in recent memory

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if splitting bolt doesn't show i think i lose

shy plinth
void vigil
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Itโ€™s a lot of visuals to take in

stiff obsidian
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how does gameplay look like a mental disorder

void vigil
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I think this applies to every game with flashy effects

upper wolf
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Meh, ADHD ain't exactly a mental disorder. Tbh the whole semantics is weird

stiff obsidian
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its in the name

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tbf

upper wolf
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Fair

tardy aurora
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anyone ever get a blur of video disturbance while playing?

void vigil
tardy aurora
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its a new one from christmas

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omen 32" monitor

void vigil
lavish sorrel
void vigil
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Widecharon3

tardy aurora
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27 mins to beat elysium and styx

stiff obsidian
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nice my game works and i keep my saves

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since mods uninstalled might as well play ff suskaygeagreegebusiness

opaque fable
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alright got rama

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should be interesting

steep condor
# stiff obsidian its in the name

it's in the name but also the attention deficit and hyperactivity parts that are also in the name is rarely the most salient symptom people experience, just the one other people are most annoyed by

tardy aurora
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why do i only got 1 main boon?

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i got doom atk

stiff obsidian
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fair

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idk what to call it then

opaque fable
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wait am i always supposed to take the mirror for 40% damage on 2 statuses on rama?

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does shared suffering count as a status?

mint coral
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No

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Only curse status from the gods work

opaque fable
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wait, is smair with dem call a terrible idea

tardy aurora
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4 fully upgraded mort charges for hades lol and champs ig

mint coral
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Is not terrible cuz the greater call ain't much better

opaque fable
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wtf i crit for 3202

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in asph

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????

mint coral
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Rama moment

rose roost
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lol

opaque fable
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oh wait i have epic hidebreaker

rose roost
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?

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heartbreak strike?

mint coral
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Hidebreaker is crit does extra dmg to armor

rose roost
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oh ic

opaque fable
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oh wait does rama deal like triple damage on perfect draw

mint coral
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Standing power shot is 175, dash strike power shot is 125

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Standing non power is 120, dash is 80

opaque fable
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this weapon will take getting used to omg

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rama feels absolutely terrible

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i'm already 20 mins in and i only just beat heroes

mint coral
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Are you dash striking

opaque fable
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i'm trying

mint coral
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Also what hammers you have

opaque fable
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this build needs sturdy or something i constantly get knocked out of charging

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pshot triple

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it should be great but it's just not working for me

swift juniper
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you don't need to charge a full blow btw

mint coral
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Specially true with triple

tawny spear
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Hello, just wondering if anyone has a dump of all the hades sfx

mint coral
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That why twin shot is more used also

swift juniper
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Rama is so strong in itself than even a quick blow from the attack will do significant damage with the shared suffering

mint coral
tawny spear
mint coral
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Yeah

tawny spear
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I wanted them for prototyping

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kk thank you!

opaque fable
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k found smair

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maybe this run is savable

mint coral
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Smair dem call still?

opaque fable
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yes

autumn root
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is there a way to reset the wasted weapon blood?

opaque fable
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gonna be buying zeus boons to see if i can't replace

mint coral
mint coral
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Need to sell

opaque fable
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fantastic

mint coral
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Also if athena is in your pool her call is fun for triple shot

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Is a free power shot basically

opaque fable
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nope

autumn root
opaque fable
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my other 2 are aph art

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i have heartrend which is good at least

mint coral
# autumn root wdym?

You can't refund the blood but if you just upgraded the aspect you can press give up in the pause menu and that reverts your save before you used the blood

autumn root
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oohhh okok thx

mint coral
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If you used the blood and already did a run and died or went into zag's bedroom is too late

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Cuz either of those things save the game

opaque fable
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625 gold, anything i should buy?

void vigil
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Go with what your heart tells you

mint coral
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What are your hermes stuff

void vigil
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I always buy poms tbh

opaque fable
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hermes is ms dodge

mint coral
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Also what attack are you using

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Arte or aphro

opaque fable
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build is in 2nd image in the album (Art)

mint coral
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Opps

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Let me check

rose roost
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u could take Hermes and pray for rd

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since epic haste is ok

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and poms won't really help anything except the call

mint coral
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Yeah nothing that does much at this point

rose roost
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or cast

mint coral
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What's on the tunnels?

opaque fable
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dem hp pom

void vigil
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This is like twitch plays hades

opaque fable
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listen i really don't want to lose a 20+ streak to playing rama and losing because i'm bad because this aspect is clunky

rose roost
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i kinda stopped caring abt streak after a while

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and like losing isn't all bad

void vigil
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I had a 145 streak and then I deliberately ruined it to get all the resource director ranks in a row

stiff obsidian
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my highest streak is 11 lol

opaque fable
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my EGO

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i need my funny number to go up

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whatever proph is completed anyways since i have the sack

rose roost
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u could take dem and get her good supprt boons

opaque fable
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just hit purple rd off of hermes

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saved????

rose roost
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snow burst, nourished soul, arctic blast

rose roost
opaque fable
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215 hp acron no dd

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we are balling i guess

rose roost
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and rd of off haste is a minor dmg increase

opaque fable
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40% isn't awful

mint coral
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Basically another arty atk zaglol

rose roost
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what's the rarity on rd

opaque fable
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purple

upper wolf
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Remember to buy every ichor

tawny spear
opaque fable
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OK OR I COULD JUST TURBO HIGHROLL AND HIT CRITS

upper wolf
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Based

opaque fable
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ez dub not close

upper wolf
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True seeded run will have common pressure point critting all the time don't @ me

mint coral
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Yeah arti atk is fine if you get other sources of % buffs

tawny spear
drowsy linden
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my dio rama run got epic swift flourish, should i transition to zoos shadegrief

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actually make that heroic

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note: already have triple shot and ares

true oak
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maybe this is a stupid question, but i got hit by something in asphodel with 50 damage on hl4, not in a miniboss room

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this seemed unfamiliarly high to me, and i was confused

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i don't think anything is that high?

drowsy linden
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slugger bp effect?

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slugger doubles the damage

mint coral
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What is your pact rn?

true oak
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bp2 hl4

drowsy linden
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probably bp slugger effect

mint coral
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Yeah slugger sounds right

drowsy linden
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and a bomb

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nothing in asphodel should do over 40 without slugger, chaos, or hs

true oak
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what's a slugger?

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also no chaos

mint coral
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Is one of the bp effects

drowsy linden
mint coral
drowsy linden
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little sword icon, enemies glow red

true oak
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is bp random??

drowsy linden
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yes

true oak
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wow didn't know that

drowsy linden
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it gives a random perk each room, and assigns it to every enemy in the room that is eligible

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additionally, cloner, popper, and spewer effects are limited to biomes

true oak
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ah no, rip

drowsy linden
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cloner is tart, popper is ely, spewer is asph

true oak
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is there a document somewhere about it?

drowsy linden
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i dont think so

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if youre talking about bp effects, wiki

true oak
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sorry fated list

upper wolf
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damn I never thought about it but b&d BP shouldn't be random

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like each mob with a predetermined, balanced BP setup

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no more warding cloning numskulls when you play arthur

lavish sorrel
true oak
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yeah that's it thanks

mint coral
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Near the bottom

lavish sorrel
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oh interesting, I always keep calling sluggers "hitter-enemies" or "hard-hitters"

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since, you know, they hit harder

marsh merlin
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hi chat

stiff obsidian
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i call them double damage

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lol

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i know they are called sluggers but still choose to

errant raptor
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thinking about buying hades as hades 2 is out soon and ive always been eyeing the game, what should I expect or know before playing it?

upper wolf
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if you're not yet bisexual, you'll become bisexual

upper wolf
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definitely a lot

errant raptor
upper wolf
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at least I hope

errant raptor
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well dying is what im expecting from a rogue-like

marsh merlin
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i mean my first escape was only arond attempt 40

upper wolf
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yeah

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The meta progression helps a lot

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but most is knowledge of the game

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builds and patterns

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it's relatively well balanced when playing causally

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VA is 200% perfect

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dialogue is too

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music is too

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gameplay is fast

covert hare
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Those words will make sense once you play it

errant raptor
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im used to it after hundreds of hours on souls-likes

karmic mason
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So how tf are you supposed to use the 4th shield? Cuz it sucked so bad last time I used it

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Then I come in here and apparently it's the wr weapon and the best thing in the game

rose roost
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dash strike into bull rush to make bull rush faster

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if you hold attk and bull rush it's slow and clunky

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and for builds flood flare, arti attk and aim for Mirage shot

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that's the core beo build pretty much

#

and the best hammer is charged shot

mint coral
#

Remapping cast so you can load casts while holding the atk also helps

rose roost
#

and don't use special it sucks

upper wolf
#

honestly it doesn't suck that much

mint coral
#

Good for one shotting that stray witch in tartarus

#

then I miss and I lose even more time

steep condor
covert hare
marsh merlin
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gg escape 9 done

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with 9 hp left

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and no death defy

#

because i didnt get jolted or a good call (i was doing a smair build)

latent moon
#

Zap fists?

marsh merlin
#

yeah

latent moon
#

That tracks lmao

marsh merlin
#

and i didnt get a call or jolted lol

latent moon
#

Jolted is needed at the minimum lmao unfortunate

marsh merlin
#

im surprised i even won tbh

#

9hp left lol

#

one more hit and it was over

#

thats heat 4 ig

stiff obsidian
latent moon
#

Well it's not me

marsh merlin
#

or me

#

i literally didnt even get jolted in my last zap fists run

stiff obsidian
#

i didnt get any jolted in the past 2 weeks

latent moon
#

Ap moment

stiff obsidian
marsh merlin
#

escape 10 is when we get epilogue stuff right?

stiff obsidian
stiff obsidian
marsh merlin
#

well im at 9 escapes rn

#

so ill get that next escape

mint coral
#

I wonder on what side of the spectrum your 10th win will be

marsh merlin
#

wdym

mint coral
#

You'll see when you get that win

marsh merlin
#

ok

drowsy linden
#

my 10th win was absolute garbage

marsh merlin
#

ok im doing 5 heat

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em1, bp1, dc1, td1

#

what

#

why is it giving me poseidon leg i literally have zeus keepsake on

#

is this like a forced thing

drowsy linden
#

yes

marsh merlin
#

ok

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can i just die

#

and not have poseidon

drowsy linden
#

but free legendary
yes you can

#

idk if it actually locks in poseidon

mint coral
#

It does

marsh merlin
#

i swear if it makes me take him every run i go for escape 10

mint coral
#

No is just a 1 time to help with fishing

opaque fable
#

im making the mistake of playing level 1 guan yu

marsh merlin
#

ok thank god

drowsy linden
marsh merlin
#

yeah im just gonna kill myself and do a run with my own build instead of being forced to have poseidon

drowsy linden
#

attack build gy is funny

opaque fable
#

ok this is turbo mega ass

#

streak is finally over

#

i'll just jump in the lava and reset it's not worth my time

latent moon
#

Poseidon in the god pool is good tho

last veldt
#

If you went for Zeus, Poseidon is a good one as a second for the chance of Sea Storm.

covert hare
#

if hercules is a son of zeus and so is ares, does that mean hercules and ares are brothers?

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sorry i dont know much about mithology

autumn root
#

whats that door next to achiles?

covert hare
steep condor
autumn root
#

the left one

covert hare
autumn root
#

how do I unlock it?

covert hare
jagged hamlet
#

Keep on playin'. You'll eventually find the option at the House Contractor

autumn root
#

ohh thx

covert hare
#

the best weapons and armor are bronze

#

athena as far as i understood loves bronze

last veldt
#

It was a high tech thing of the time.

covert hare
#

in the gun biography it says human dont know about guns yet

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but em3 theseus has 2 miniguns on the car

upper wolf
#

He's dead bro

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He's not in human society anymore

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And Daedalus is dead too

covert hare
#

doesnt that mean that everyone should know about it?

upper wolf
#

What

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Why

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Only gods know about the gun

#

Why should mortals do ?

covert hare
#

rumours,legends,myths

#

yk

upper wolf
#

Those kinda tends to not entirely be entirely accurate

#

Admittedly I haven't thought about it either, but it still makes sense anyway

covert hare
#

even zagreus tells orfeo a lot of fake stories to troll him

upper wolf
#

It's not like mortals are supposed to get a precise retelling of such a traumatic event as the titan war

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Like, the point is more "yo we kicked ass, worship us now."

covert hare
#

btw i know that this should go in history discussion

#

but im afraid i will get something spoiled if i enter that channel

upper wolf
#

Valid

#

That being said, you might get a spoiler here too

drowsy linden
covert hare
#

im talking about postgame and lore spoilers

drowsy linden
#

well then not very likely

#

barely anyone actually talks about such things

covert hare
#

even if there are fictional things

drowsy linden
#

well you do have be at least somewhat accurate when doing a recreation of something

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i think sgg put msot of their creative liberty passes in zag

covert hare
drowsy linden
#

yeah thats a fair point

covert hare
#

that would have been terrible

opaque fable
#

i'm playing hera with a level 3 cast and next to no real damage boosts

#

if i don't lose to dad it'll be insane

upper wolf
#

dw you're insane dawg

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Go get that dad down

opaque fable
#

didn't even use defiance

#

wow

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21 min run tho sad

#

where damage

covert hare
#

and 2 hammers

drowsy linden
autumn root
#

NO WAY MAAAN MY GAME CRASHED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HADES BOSS

#

my best run ๐Ÿ˜ญ

drowsy linden
#

dont worry it autosaves

#

and if you die, its not that bad
at least you got there

autumn root
#

i uninstaled already

lavish sorrel
#

yay I'm not the only person the game ever crashes for for seemingly no reason

drowsy linden
#

sub 5:40 when

stiff obsidian
#

What is the fastest

stone rune
#

i have a sub5 in fact

#

this is an rta run

drowsy linden
#

๐ŸŽ‰

#

now thats impressive

upper wolf
#

how

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dayum

lavish sorrel
drowsy linden
#

heat 64 speedrun category when

stone rune
#

mysterra on the case

lavish sorrel
stone rune
#

tfw #Unknown

covert hare
#

em2 and middle management dominated, what other pact should i add now?

upper wolf
#

all of them zagmad

upper wolf
stone rune
#

wow

latent moon
#

Lmao yeah he contacted me for permission to put it into his video

rustic vale
#

Yoh shoot

ashen rapids
#

i like to watch his videos

ashen rapids
#

banan banan banana

rustic vale
#

Idk I think you guys are being pretty insulting calling that Bananas (the image hasnโ€™t loaded for me itโ€™s just an unhappy poop)

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Huh

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I may have to watch this video

ashen rapids
#

want me give u link?

rustic vale
#

Iโ€™m interested in the โ€œI analysed player dataโ€ part

stone rune
#

its basically just

rustic vale
#

I can find it, itโ€™s Haelians channel

ashen rapids
#

I plan to upkeep this document best I can, for as long as I can. If you want to submit your victory screen, please email your image to haelianplays@gmail.com

Links!
Google Doc (Thanks to Zheng!): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1owDWTaUKaYcNRtgt85T9X9si4UvcUW3PpsShTsJkWMg/edit?usp=sharing
Bananas' Guide: https://docs.google.com/document/...

โ–ถ Play video
stone rune
#

everyone used chiron and a garbage pact

#

pretty simple

ashen rapids
#

just to make ur search easy

rustic vale
ashen rapids
#

Here im practising with hera bow

rustic vale
#

Just use zag bow

stone rune
#

use hestia

rustic vale
#

Hestia โŒ
Bestia โœ…

ashen rapids
#

I like hestia

stone rune
#

use hestia and i guarantee first try 32 40 and 50

ashen rapids
#

but wanna try aphrodite cast on hera bow

#

arthemis on attack,aphrodite on cast,athena on dash

#

thats what i use

rustic vale
#

Athena on special too right zagpls

#

DR your hera cast

stone rune
#

hmmmmm

ashen rapids
#

if u dont mind me asking what is dr?

stone rune
#

deadly reversal

ashen rapids
#

duo boons?

upper wolf
#

yeah

#

athena/artemis

#

+20% crit after deflecting

#

pretty broken

ashen rapids
#

OHHH

covert hare
#

is there a tierlist for rail hammers?

rustic vale
#

Tbh

#

Rail isnโ€™t as

#

One track as sword

#

Rocket + cluster good

#
  • spreadfire good on zag
#

ricochet is fine on hesti

#

Delta is good for iframes iirc

#

luci has completely different hammers

#

(It wants triple bomb)

jagged hamlet
#

Piercing can also be nice on Hestia

rustic vale
#

And explosive can be as well since it just adds more places for your hestia shot to hit

upper wolf
#

just tried a hunting blade achilles run

#

didn't get sub 10

#

didn't get the ares blade boons beyond slicing shot

#

so they were slow and small

#

... I also played horribly, but that's a detail.

marsh merlin
#

ok now that i have all 10 escapes for credits stuff i kinda wanna start getting into higher heat levels

#

i have just been going up one lol

#

my highest heat is 5

upper wolf
#

yeah there's not much reason to go more than one at a time at first

#

until you get all bounties at least. Or well, as many as needed to get all things to max

marsh merlin
#

then i should just keep doing one at a time then lol

upper wolf
marsh merlin
#

i have only ever escaped with sword (highest heat:3) and fists (highest heat:5) lol

upper wolf
#

you can't exactly just get a lucky streak while bumbling your way through Hades on high heat lol

#

melee enjoyer

marsh merlin
#

yes

#

the main builds i have used are stuff like ME and smair stuff

#

also what does em2 do to asphodel boss

upper wolf
#

group up

#

more lava

#

guillotine

marsh merlin
#

oh that sounds really annoying

upper wolf
#

it is

#

it is also faster though

#

since you can make a nice lil bundle of heads and slam them down simultaneously

marsh merlin
#

tbf fists isnt exactly known for aoe

upper wolf
#

Just play only gilga tdash

#

ez

marsh merlin
#

i dont have any of the secret aspects yet lol

#

dw you didnt spoil anything though i already knew of them

latent moon
latent moon
#

it doesnt track the attempts so it's a bit skewed imo

#

but it's still pretty neat info

rustic vale
#

thatโ€™s probably fine

#

I donโ€™t plan on changing it

opaque fable
#

i've never noticed this

latent moon
#

it's more like the headslam variant of lernie

opaque fable
#

oh the one where it ground pounds like 3 times

covert hare
#

for the quest of clearing with every mirror upgrade

#

it does not count if the upgrade is level 0?

#

is hela+aphro cast still good even if you only have 1 bloodstone?

opaque fable
#

no

#

don't play hera aph with 1 stone

mint coral
#

Use trippy shot if you are gonna use stygian soul

covert hare
opaque fable
#

dio cast

mint coral
#

Dio cast

covert hare
#

oh

latent moon
#

could just not use hera and use some other aspect lmao

opaque fable
#

does it even need to be high heat

covert hare
opaque fable
#

or can you just do a 0 heat run

covert hare
#

anyways whats an always take, chaos portal or erebus door

latent moon
#

hera with 1 cast, even if it's on stygian soul, isn't gonna be fun lmao

opaque fable
#

casters is turbo 100% chaos i think

latent moon
#

erebus isn't worth it msot of the time

opaque fable
#

can you get +1 stone on stygian soul?

latent moon
#

yeah

#

if you're on stygian soul that's the only thing you want from chaos

marsh merlin
#

whats stygian soul

opaque fable
#

mirror upgrade, bloodstone regens instead of drops

marsh merlin
#

ah

opaque fable
#

it's generally unfavored iirc?

mint coral
#

Build dependant

#

If you aren't doing cast build is a matter of preference

#

Infernal has lightning rod, stygian has slightly better hermes odds

latent moon
#

the only time you'd take stygian in a cast build is if you're building around beams or trippy

#

otherwise you'd always take infernal for the burst damage

covert hare
#

im just gonna gaslight myself into thinking this is some pact and not a problem i made myself

opaque fable
#

i mean isn't this technically true

#

there's a pact that you can juice to cut off your whole mirror iirc

latent moon
#

i mean it's definitely a self made problem since you're still choosing to use hera

latent moon
#

and the prophecy dosen't have to be done in one shot, you can do it in batches

opaque fable
#

fair

covert hare
#

no matter what

#

because heat is very low i can win with anything

opaque fable
#

i am very nervous about eventually ramping to td3

#

i have runs where i'm sub 20 but it's inconsistent

stone rune
opaque fable
#

huh, turns out lv 4 epic dem cast with achilles melts

frank dove
#

uh is it bad that I bought hades 3 days ago and have 25 hours of playtime

winter plaza
#

no

zenith lintel
#

I can finally speedrun a Game for the first time

#

I wish I had hades๐Ÿ˜ญ

keen lily
#

how much nectar does each npc need to max them out

mint coral
#

All gods except hermes need 6 nectar + 1 ambrosia

#

Herms is 5/6 nectar (don't remember) + 2 ambrosia

keen lily
#

ive gifted way more than 6 to ares already bro wth

mint coral
#

May wanna double check then dusa

opaque fable
#

how far up in heat do bounties go again? 20?

stone rune
#

yeah

#

or 25 in hell mode

#

i havent played in like 5 days

stiff obsidian
#

Have you tried playing instead

stone rune
#

yeah i have tried playing crystal project

#

i have 12 hours now

#

also some hotline miami

stiff obsidian
#

:holymoly

stone rune
#

my hades journey was almost exactly 1 year

#

i was not very efficient

stiff obsidian
#

are you done

#

with hades i mean

stone rune
#

probably

#

if i launched it up again im sure id get sucked in

#

but i just havent

stiff obsidian
#

btw what does more effective damage zag rail with cp1 and family favs or eris with cp2 and ri3

stone rune
#

eris

#

except

#

idk dash

#

probably still eris

stiff obsidian
#

hm

opaque fable
#

what cast builds prefer regen bloodstone over drop bloodstone

latent moon
#

beams and trippy prefer stygian

#

everything else infernal

opaque fable
#

how am i seeing people have 40 min clears for this game

stone rune
#

some people play slower

covert hare
#

so my pc shut off because of a reason i cant specify, but basically i lose all of the progress on a run, isnt it supposed to autosave every room?

stone rune
#

it does

covert hare
#

so what happened

opaque fable
#

i've almost universally found that playing fights a bit slower meant that i'd lose more health overall

covert hare
opaque fable
#

chaos reducing ms/dash distance is killer

covert hare
#

also why is nicte like chatgpt

#

" hey nict can you tell me a confidential secret? "

#

" no "

#

" but what if it was hipotetically speaking? "

#

" alright "

opaque fable
#

according to other people there's a sound cue when you're being targeted by bowmen/thesus spear?

stone rune
#

theres a big pink thing above ur head

jagged hamlet
#

It get glowy when a projectile is coming your way supposedly

keen lily
#

when can i start gifting persephone?

covert hare
opaque fable
tepid light
#

Enjoy getting hit by spears and arrows then

stone rune
#

well the easiest indicator to see is on zag

#

the other way is to get the gamesense to know when that attack will be coming

covert hare
stone rune
#

which takes a lot longer

opaque fable
#

I know where zag is on my screen almost all the time

stone rune
#

to see where u are?

tepid light
stone rune
#

lining up for anything ever

#

lemme just get the witches meg without looking at zagโ€™s model

opaque fable
#

I don't need to look at the center of my screen to know where the center of my screen is

stone rune
#

you can also read the enemyโ€™s animation

#

which is the easiest way

#

but given weโ€™re still getting hit by literally theseus spear throw id just look at the model

tepid light
opaque fable
#

Thesus is mapping me is the main problem

#

When he's on screen it's mostly fine

stone rune
#

using geometry

tepid light
stone rune
#

i think once you get better there are better options

#

but at the start just use the indicator

deep glade
#

quick question, after unlocking everything from the mirror and all the weapons, are their any use for keys other than trading?

stone rune
#

picking them up yes

#

for rolls

#

but using them in the house not rlly

#

maybe contracyor

opaque fable
#

Im in the habit of constantly dashing so i generally don't get hit if there's not too many but getting interrupted is annoying

#

Maybe i play too aggro and need to chill idk

#

Turn up lc to 4 out of the gate so that i stop taking damage for no reason

stone rune
#

meanwhile intentionally killing yourself for hp on lc4

tepid light
#

But yeah returning to the original point

It really is easiest to just glance at the indicator on Zagreus when trying to dodge strongbows and Theseus

#

Learning a new habit is worth not taking considerable amounts of damage from offscreen

opaque fable
#

At what point in the indicator does it fire

tepid light
opaque fable
#

Alright

weak geyser
#

Guys, I need help, does anyone have a Hades badge?

opaque fable
#

Badge?

weak geyser
#

card

#

on steam

tepid light
#

You are the second person to come in looking for steam cards from this game

That's two more than I've ever seen at all

weak geyser
#

๐Ÿ‘‰ ๐Ÿ‘ˆ

tepid light
#

unfortunately nope, don't have a Hades card

weak geyser
#

i'll wait

tepid light
#

Why spend 10 cents when you can get it for free

ashen rapids
#

Depends on the person,i don't like to ask something from someone.Plus card drops after u done level 1 badge rarely drops i think

weak geyser
ashen rapids
weak geyser
#

whait wtf, you can buy it only when you using search?

rustic vale
#

Sara has all of them

ashen rapids
#

i had level 4 badge

#

u reminded me so i bought them all and now i have max level

#

just bought a hour ago

#

went to badges then selected hades

#

then bought all the cards

rustic vale
#

No I mean you have every Lord Hades cardbouldy

ashen rapids
#

u can just buy 1 too

ashen rapids
#

aglama im confused

void vigil
#

Thereโ€™s a problem with hades and dusa on the marketplace iirc but you can definitely buy them as long as someone is selling them, and hades being a popular game, thatโ€™s very likely

#

I think I have foil badges for every supergiant games but I didnโ€™t get all of them myself, some were gifts

ashen rapids
#

just bought both of them 2 hours ago so idk if there is still a problem

lethal hound
#

HEY GUYS

#

do u need to kill hades in order to unlock hidden aspects

#

i forgor

#

anyone

ashen rapids
#

and talk with spesific characters

lethal hound
#

so i just need to reach the final boss right

#

i dont have to kill im

#

btw

#

does spending blood on the zag aspect count

ashen rapids
#

if u kill him u unlock many things in the game

ashen rapids
lethal hound
#

thx

ashen rapids
#

Ur welcome

steep condor
#

i feel like i rely on divine dash too much... any suggestions except just getting better?

#

like sometimes when i resume an ok run i'll forget i don't have divine dash and immediately die a couple chambers lately because i take too long to adjust to dodging properly๐Ÿฅฒ

lavish sorrel
rustic vale
#

just use better dashes

lavish sorrel
#

(And ofc git gud but you already mentioned that one)

rustic vale
#

Killing enemies before they can attack you will typically fix your problem

steep condor
rustic vale
#

so running intentional builds should help you work off of divine dash

last veldt
#

Given how much damage other dashes can do as part of builds, it's good not to become too attached.

steep condor
rustic pelican
#

my game is locked at 60fps, is this normal? I don't see a way to uncap it

#

i was launching hades with directX, that seemed to lock it at 60. When I launch it in vulcan, i get 600fps but now my controller isn't detected in vulkan

last veldt
rustic pelican
#

no

#

nah, it's the other way around, v-sync usually caps at 60

#

tried it anyways just incase, doesn't fix it

#

better than watching a slideshow

#

subjective ig

#

to me it is

#

i'm used to 360 hz

stiff obsidian
#

eyes dont even see that fast

granite ether
steep condor
rustic pelican
#

In summary, while there is a technical difference between 180Hz and 360Hz, whether it's perceivable depends on individual sensitivity, the type of games played, and the capability of your gaming rig. For competitive gamers or those particularly sensitive to motion smoothness, the jump to 360Hz might be appreciable. For others, the difference might be less significant, especially considering the diminishing returns as you go higher in refresh rate.

#

I can definitely notice the difference between 144hz and 360hz

#

and so 60fps feels like a slideshow imo

rustic pelican