h1-discussion

[latent moon]

prob just need more practice optimzing the damage rotation tho tbh

[mild crypt]

If it makes any difference most of my time struggles are standard enemies, especially the roided kangaroos that are the Asphodel enemies

[latent moon]

yeah that tracks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6AmMFEEE_w&pp=ygUYY2d1bGwgY3VyYiB5b3VyIGFzcGhvZGVs

obligitory curb your asphodel

you kinda have to be patient with them and wait for them to attack first

[mild crypt]

I can beat Alecto in like 15 seconds and go 30 on Lernie if I have a call, Asterius and Short One I beat quickly by doing zeus shield special tracking nonsense and end phase 2 theseus before he can do anything

[latent moon]

yeah normal rooms are generally the biggest time loss

i think a good goal for speed atm would be to hit the 20 min mark for a clear

5 mins per biome, basically shooting for td3 time

[rustic vale]

That one is fast if you’re fast

[latent tide]

What's good hades nation

[latent moon]

as long as you know the basics of speedrunning then you'll be fine

[latent tide]

Good morning for the people who are in that time

[rustic vale]

Tbh even if you aren’t hitting 5m for every floor yet

[latent moon]

pausing when making decisions and taking free rooms basically

[rustic vale]

Hitting 0s on td isn’t the end of the world

[latent tide]

Does pausing stop timer in speedruns

[rustic vale]

For in game time yes

For real time action, no

[latent moon]

(it's real time attack)

[rustic vale]

Same thing

[latent moon]

but yeah, if you turn on the in game timer in the settings you'll know when the timer pauses

that timer and the tight deadline timer follow the same rules

[mild crypt]

If I took all the free rooms I found I probably would shave a few minutes honestly

[latent moon]

yeah lmao

[mild crypt]

I don't always take shops because I have no money and want stuff, or I'm grinding to buy the titans blood/diamond at the end

[mild crypt]

Also how to get better at fishing? The only times I ever managed to get a perfect catch is when I managed to predict when the signal would show

[jagged shoal]

fishing is a combination of reaction time and a little bit of knowledge

the two biggest pieces of info about fishing that helped me out is 1. ||If it hasn't bit the first 3 times, the fourth time it will bite,|| and 2. ||If nothing happens for an amount of time (I think 2 seconds but I haven't read up in a long while and i just do it by feel so idk, if it has stayed still for long) this time will not be a bite, bites are only quick, or relatively quick [If it's the first bob/bite tho do stay on your toes because it's not as clear when this timer starts as the end of a bob is]||

[rustic vale]

I think the 3rd thing after this is

Depend on your ears

If you can

[jagged shoal]

oh and 4, if you highly prefer a visual cue rather than an audio one, i've heard some people focus above the bobber for the big FLASHy sparkle, instead of looking at the bobber, which has other, non-bite movements

[rustic vale]

oh 100%

The flash is way more indicative

Oh and 5th thing, not neccesarily about catching the fish themselves, but more on the mechanics:
Non perfect catches are 50:50 common/uncommon fish (or whatever the terminology is)
Perfect catches are 50:50 uncommon/rare fish (or whatever the proper terminology is)

[jagged shoal]

Common Rare and Legendary

[rustic vale]

It’s been a while

[jagged shoal]

But yeah, if you're able to react quickly you get the rare or legendary fish of the river, better rewards than common obv, and if you're specifically after a common fish, try to delay yourself just a bit

[mild crypt]

I've fished at least 50 times and have not once been able to get a perfect from reaction time alone, I'll try the other strats and see if that works

[jagged shoal]

yeah, good luck!

the first 2 tips are my go-to's so i hope they help out

[rustic vale]

I think it’s pretty common for people to catch the audio que faster then the eyes catch the flash

[jagged shoal]

audio reaction time is genuinely faster than visual reaction time in general

[mild crypt]

So basically how it goes after a while is that you're able to beat Hades without wearing out the acorn but lose 3/4s of your health to the giant butterfly ball

[latent moon]

em4 moment

[mild crypt]

Haven't gotten quite that far, beat it once and used two death defies

Maybe one day

[jagged shoal]

yeah with that room you gotta use all your dps stuff

it's kind of a race

if its the side goons hitting you the most and you've got a ranged option it's worth picking off the floating eyeballs briefly

[mild crypt]

Speak of the devil

+100% darkness is a blessing

[latent moon]

oh that butterfly ball lmao

if you have a summon it's pretty easy since summons can strip the armor, but otherwise yeah it's a pain in the ass

[mild crypt]

Just bought and listened to the God of the Dead theme and then Than shows up for the bedroom scene, made for a very intense session

[obsidian linden]

Hello

how are you today peoples ?

I have a new dilema of choice

Eris, choosing between keeping Epic lightning Strike or Heroic Deadly Strike

[lavish sorrel]

Zeus attack

[stiff obsidian]

try deadly strike for fun

[obsidian linden]

(my other choice is choosing between normal Deadly Flourish and pressure point)

at least, I have the first part of Clockets

[latent moon]

easy take for deadly flourish

on eris, there's never a reason to not have lightning strike

[stone rune]

deadly strike is truly awful on eris

any % is

[obsidian linden]

bs

[stone rune]

ok

[obsidian linden]

now time for the headache

next room choice

hammer or Aphrodite

I still don't have my Special Boon

but I have Cluster Bomb

[rose roost]

hammer and pray for rocket bomb

[obsidian linden]

Flurry Fire

Spread Fire

Seeking Fire

:/

kill me

Spread Fire is good ?

[rose roost]

not on eris

[obsidian linden]

hello Flurry

[latent moon]

ngl if you took deadly strike earlier you might as well take spread fire lmao

[stiff obsidian]

Deadly strike is goos

Good

Single target is comparable

With like support fire

[stone rune]

ok what if

you just got support fire

with normal

[stiff obsidian]

What's the fun in fhat

[tepid light]

i just wish spread fire worked properly with hestia

[stone rune]

i think it already works properly

in that it doesnt ruin your attack for no benefit

[tepid light]

that's

not what i meant, jazz

[stone rune]

well what could spread fire do for hestia

[tepid light]

....make hestia's powered attack also be a close-ranged shotgun blast for the sake of consistency?

[formal orbit]

I would skip second hammer for hestia if that was the case

[stiff obsidian]

why, thats a straight nerf with no benefit

[formal orbit]

mandatory screw hazard bomb on eris

cshot on zeus

cursed slash on sword

[tepid light]

read the last word

[stiff obsidian]

why would you ruin something for the sake of consistency

[tepid light]

what do you mean, 'ruin'

spread fire generally isn't taken anyway, especially not on hestia

so the least you could do is make it feel consistent

[stiff obsidian]

I take spread fire it's quite alright

Since u already have a % atk

[tepid light]

look i just find it very awkward to have one attack be a long-range snipe and the rest of your attacks be close-range blasts

[formal orbit]

spread fire warp your entire run around it, playing hestia pretty much contradict that gun blazing playstyle

[stone rune]

what

[stiff obsidian]

It ruins the point of running hestia

[stone rune]

dude

[formal orbit]

but yeah, hestia empowered shot is just built different

[stone rune]

in my 54 heat run on hestia i got spread fire

i was very happy that it did not completely ruin my run

i would rather it still did not do that

[stiff obsidian]

Now if it made the first shot close range , but also x6 or 10 smg or whatever

I'd use it

[stone rune]

yeah if it still quadrupled the base damage sure

[tepid light]

this is exactly what i was hoping it would do

[stone rune]

but that would be op instesd

[tepid light]

what did you guys think i meant

[stone rune]

600 base damage is way too much

[formal orbit]

if that was the case, 62 hestia seem doable

[stone rune]

the highest base damage in the game is 240 lol

or 400 if u count multi hit

[tepid light]

did you guys think i wanted spread fire to just completely erase hestia's bonus damage on first attack or something

[stiff obsidian]

Yes

[stone rune]

yeah?

[stiff obsidian]

U didnt specify rly

[stone rune]

theres no other reasonable interpretation of the combination of stats

they both set base damage to 150 or 40

[tepid light]

ok i'm going to do something that jazz always does to me

[tepid light]

??

[formal orbit]

i was thinking this actually

[stone rune]

not +300% or +1400%

[tepid light]

well then fine let me clarify

[formal orbit]

+1400% sound funny

[stone rune]

its 15x

[tepid light]

I wish that spread fire made hestia first attack a close-range blast while still keeping the bonus damage

clear now?

[stone rune]

well u have to say what u mean by bonus damage

spread fire adds 30 base

or multiplies by 4

[tepid light]

???????????

[stone rune]

or just sets to 40

both of them are setter things

[stiff obsidian]

Wait u want the first shot to still do just 150 dmg?

[stone rune]

not modifiers to an existing number

[tepid light]

ok, i see my mistake

fine, that's on me and i apologize

but i still don't see why people assumed i wanted spread fire to just remove hestia's schtick

instead of the more logical "turn attack into blast but still give bonus damage"

[stone rune]

well like

because hestia is

Make base damage 150

and spread fire is

Make base damage 40

so its hard to combine those two in a way other than resulting in 150 or 40

[stiff obsidian]

I wonder what u think about seeking fire for hestia

[formal orbit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO1viPLRQCI

I'm dying watching this video

[stone rune]

spoilers

[stiff obsidian]

What is that, I can't watch it rn

[stone rune]

not that good

its a haelian video

zagrail seeking fire

[stiff obsidian]

Ik

[stone rune]

pretty sure with aph atk

[stiff obsidian]

Oh zagrail

[stone rune]

well zagrail is in thumbnail

i watched it a while ago and it wasnt hestia

[stiff obsidian]

Yea I can't tell aspects by image

[stone rune]

theyre all easy

rails r pretty simple

eris is the awful disgusting garish one

[stiff obsidian]

I can tell apart Lucifer and eris

[stone rune]

hestia is the nice looking one with purple

[tepid light]

have you considered that i just viewed hestia as "give more damage on first attack"

which while i'm now aware technically isn't true, is still in practice the same effect

so it seems perfectly reasonable to say "make spread fire change hestia first attack while still giving a damage bonus"

[stone rune]

zagrail has the nice structures and that orange blue color scheme

[tepid light]

even if what you're doing is adjusting base damage numbers

instead of directly giving a bonus

[stone rune]

i assumed everyone had the numbers and wording memorized

i guess not

[tepid light]

well a thousand apologies to you, oh hades genius

[stiff obsidian]

I still don't know rail base damage

[stone rune]

average eris player

[tepid light]

but now that that's out of the way

i will once again say

[stone rune]

its 10 attack and 60 special

[tepid light]

"i wish spread fire worked with hestia"

[stiff obsidian]

Oh

[tepid light]

and i hope now the point is clear

[stone rune]

i mean sure

it would be funny

sounds pretty easy to instaphase dad with

you just need like

800 additive

free

[tepid light]

yes i agree, it would be fun and lead to some satisfying runs

i am glad we are finally on the same page

[stone rune]

it would definitely not be balanced

but it would be funny

[tepid light]

i care more about the funny than the balance

[formal orbit]

beo player talking about balance

[stone rune]

also someone on reddit said that i was lying about aphrodite being good because they checked my speedrun videos and i only used aphrodite in 1/5 of them

🤯

[formal orbit]

ngl, aphro suck

[stone rune]

like turns out i dont take aph on beo

who could have guessed

[formal orbit]

old meta was pash snurst beo

wild time indeed

[stone rune]

i also think its funny they clicked and watched 5 of my speedruns to see if i took aphrodite

[formal orbit]

I could see you took it in an achilles run, open sweet nectar and smair

[stone rune]

its ok on achilles

u can get like

sweet mectar yea

heart rend i guess

if u grt it early it can deal dmg in tart with rarity

dude

im watching thru an rta run of mine to see where i screwed up and i have this phantom image in my mind of the pause screen

and im like “i paused 5 seconds ago”

i go back and i didnt

i think im going insane

[formal orbit]

what playing hades over 1k hours does to your mind

[stiff obsidian]

i think of my schedule in splits

[stone rune]

you have a schedule?

[stiff obsidian]

like

irl

[stone rune]

yea

[stiff obsidian]

not an actual one but like if i have to get rdy for class and im rdy early i tell myself im ahead of pace

[stone rune]

[rapid zinc]

Is it stupid to farm 0 heat for Darkness to max out mirror, before continuing the heat grind? im at 3-5 heat with most weapons

i feel like i otherwise get so little it will take too long to max out the fate perk and epic boon % chance

[mild crypt]

I mean you could also farm for gems while you're at it

Just found out recently that Chaos gem and darkness reward boons can stack

Got a 206% bonus including the boon from Poseidon

[formal orbit]

the fastest way to farm darkness is the speedrunning way

start poseidon and pray for chaos

unlock darkness drop from bosses

so Force Overtime 2, Extreme Measure 2 and Tight Deadline

at least 10 heat i guess

[mild crypt]

I stick to 0 heat just because it's easier and I'm missing out on a ton of resources if I fail on Hades

[rapid zinc]

gotchaa

[lavish sorrel]

"Oh no I'm behind pace"

"Run is dead, reset."

[stiff obsidian]

i reset sometimes

if im getting bad vibes or wake up late i just stay back instead of completing the run

[latent tide]

is athena call good?

i never usually pick it up

[silk stone]

if the god gauge bar is full ig

impervious for a while

[charred igloo]

i like Aphrodite call the best just because you get that 2500 damage

[split vigil]

I only use Athena’s call if I need to get past hades’ 360 laser really quick - otherwise I just like to use literally anything else

[charred igloo]

also i got to the point where i got Orpheus and Eurydice back together and Achilles and
Patroclus back together. gonna miss seeing orpheus in the house of hades tho

[formal orbit]

Personal tier list of call

[silk stone]

i like ares

im based

[formal orbit]

Dio = zeus > athena = pos > dem > ares > arty > aphro

Ares call is just a panic button

[silk stone]

fidjet spinner go brrrrr

[formal orbit]

Mediocre damage

[silk stone]

finding the daedalus hammer

huge W

[formal orbit]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/1175044606694535218/image.png?ex=6597f111&is=65857c11&hm=8909708c9809c6ddb73bbde427ea04fae4e78ce7fc8931bae93f1e828d9c31c8&

You can trust me when i say ares call suck

[silk stone]

ermmm

👽

[split vigil]

50 heat Jesus Christ I can only dream

[steep wagon]

hey guys i have 4 hours into hades which weapon should i use

[silk stone]

spear

i highly recc!!!

[latent tide]

legit why does the last aspect gotta be so rng bro

i needed 3 runs for guan yu and i be doing even more for arthur like

cmon bruh

i filled the requirments

just give it to mee

[tardy aurora]

what is the best keepsake for each area? what to start a run with, then when and what do i change it out for?

[lone kestrel]

To unlock Demeter's final heart, do we have to do something special or just talk to her enough.

[mint coral]

You need to complete the epilogue

Which regarding that, dem counts as one of the 6 gods you need to max for the epilogue as soon as you reach the lock

[lone kestrel]

Already did that a long time ago.

Guess I just need to keep trying then.

[mint coral]

You got the actual epilogue or the credits, just making sure

[lone kestrel]

Actual epilogue, ||went through the feast and all of that.||

[mint coral]

Oh aight

Yeah rng time then

[lone kestrel]

Thx, just wanted to make sure.

[lavish sorrel]

slight disagree on the pos = athena, I think athena's slightly better because you still keep control over both movement and damage

but other than that based

[stiff obsidian]

zeus better than dio imo since you wont be locked out of it if ur using dio atk/spec, and zeus support boons would buff ur atk/spec as well if ur using it

[tardy aurora]

is storm lightning a duo boon or is it rare? its last i need for zues prophecy

[mint coral]

You need atk or cast to open it

Is a normal boon

Don't take special/dash or call from him cuz that opens 2-3 extra boons

[tardy aurora]

so take zues atk or his cast but nothing else for the best odds at it?

[mint coral]

Yeah

If after opening it doesn't appear on the next zeus boon but static discharge does take that at least

His curse has higher priority than other boons

[sour fog]

you can check pre requisites for every boon in codex if you get the upgrade from work orders

[tardy aurora]

oh i forgot that exists tbh

[tardy aurora]

why do the gods help theseus? like if its a test sure, if its not then they either favour him for some reason and idk why zeus does as he is a bit of a egotistical for not wanting humans to live then changing his mind and favouring a statistical maniac

[mint coral]

Cuz its funny

[tardy aurora]

yeah ig but what would be funnier is if zues says somin like "Ironic" and just starts laughing as his image fades

[tepid light]

because as much of a jerk as he may be, theseus is in fact a famed greek hero in his own right who was a son of poseidon and the founder of athens

he earned the respect and favor of the gods through his deeds and it'd be a bit weird of them to withhold that favor just because he's fighting another person who also happens to have their favor

[tardy aurora]

true but i like how zagreus mentions it a few times so far, like if i remember "are they testing me?" and "i also have their help...?"

[tepid light]

zagreus might just be plain confused

understandably so

[tardy aurora]

the fact all the gods just drop what their doing to help theseus is out of character, how is dionysus not just plain drunk out of his mind for theseus beck and call same for zeus, how is he not off on earth with a "sidechick" or victim and etc.

athena? ye she would be either planning and doing the equivelant of sending "k"

[tepid light]

i mean

you could ask those same things about them helping zagreus out of nowhere

[tardy aurora]

true... how the heck do boons work?

do they leave an imprint of an essence?

[rose roost]

it's just... gameplay

[tardy aurora]

or do they sense it?

[tardy aurora]

if we can talk to them through the boons theres some explanation is there not?

[tepid light]

i would assume that's exactly how it works, yeah

the gods just 'injecting' a tiny bit of their own power into the person in question

[mint coral]

There's also what Nyx is doing with hiding your presence and all of that so the gods don't get the full picture of what's going on

[tardy aurora]

now i think of it... is it nyx and the fact of the underworld being the underworld that does it?

[rose roost]

there's no explanation as to why zag can talk to gods through boons iirc

[tardy aurora]

ye ur actually right dam

btw what fury sister is ur least fav fight?

[mint coral]

Regarding how books work I always treat them as a physical thing that they drop cuz charon also helps carrying them

[drowsy linden]

not tis
alecto is painful if you lack damage to burst the last phase, meg is hard overall

[tardy aurora]

i prefer meg, she is tough the first few times but gets easier overtime with practice, with the other 2 you get not enough practice for them to be a challenge

i see myself losing 1 DD to tisi a good amount of the time

[vale oak]

i mean gods are supposed to be omnipotent. Dionysus should be able to help zagreus and theseus WHILE being drunk, or doing whatever the hell he wants. helping a hero with favour is probably about as hard as swatting a fly for them.

[tardy aurora]

a hassle?

[vale oak]

yea maybe but they can probably help zagreus while still performing thier godly activities or whatever, it's barely a big deal for them

[upper wolf]

Greek gods ain't omnipotent

By principle you can't have multiple omnipotent entities

Otherwise you get into a paradox

ie unstoppable force vs immovable object

[vale oak]

omnipotent was the wrong word, i meant helping zagreus is probably an insignificant task, so they can do it while continuing their godly lives

[upper wolf]

Oh

Yeah I agree with that

[last veldt]

He can't talk to them. Apart from accepting the messages, the boon conversations are one way and asynchronous. So the boons have a sort of autoplay message on them.

[tardy aurora]

how do i get the final 4 mini bosses on the minor prophecy wanton ransacking

[mint coral]

Idk which ones you are missing so my guess is enter the miniboss chambers in styx

[drowsy linden]

ive also been through the "tis is hard" phase
now im in the "furies are hard" phase

try em1 hl5 fo2

[upper wolf]

kinda same, except I still find Tis the easiest by far

Then I think meg is harder than alecto, but it's a toss-up

also depends on what the side furies are

[tardy aurora]

im doing one where it adds an extra thing to minibosses rn

[mint coral]

Tis is annoying more than anything

[upper wolf]

tisiphone doing 32 damage for free if you don't have your dash ready is harsh

[stiff obsidian]

the only fury name i know is meg

idk the names of the other 2

[upper wolf]

chad behavior

[tardy aurora]

wait theres more than that rat?

[mint coral]

Red is alecto green is tisiphone

[upper wolf]

which rat :p

[mint coral]

Which rat

[tardy aurora]

rage and non verbal

[stiff obsidian]

i confuse alecto and titipohone

[mint coral]

Lmao

[tardy aurora]

the small one with way to much hp and way to aggressive

[mint coral]

Get tony'd

[tardy aurora]

i hate it, i always avoid styx minibosses cuz of it

[mint coral]

But yeah there's more minibosses

[tardy aurora]

like if they glow then no

[mint coral]

Also minibosses are easier than normal chambers outside of tony lol

[tardy aurora]

like it overwhelms me fighting the one you call tony

[mint coral]

Fair

[tardy aurora]

legit it is a pain, the floor is acid, rats tht blend into floor, the boss pops around more than hades, and the big rats just is too much

[mild crypt]

Not having a summon made them painful

[tardy aurora]

how do summons work? i not got any yet

[mild crypt]

The super satyr especially

[tardy aurora]

closest i am to one is than

[mild crypt]

Depends on the summon

[mint coral]

Summon character > they do X thing > dip

The tl;dr is they do a bunch of dmg in different ways

[tardy aurora]

i thought greater call did tht in beggining

[drowsy linden]

||press button, big stuff happen
its basically just a call you use once per chamber and dont have to charge||

[mint coral]

Breaking wave should still bully most of them

Or a good build

[tardy aurora]

is it the locked keepsakes

[mint coral]

Yeah the 6 big ones

[drowsy linden]

i keep thinking there are 5 of them for some reason

[tardy aurora]

who are they and which is best?

[mild crypt]

Conveniently one I almost never have

[drowsy linden]

||skelly, meg, than, dusa, achilles, sisy|| are the characters

[upper wolf]

💀

[drowsy linden]

best one is ||meg|| usually

[mint coral]

Meg/Than/skelly/Achilles/ /

[mild crypt]

I don't really have a strategy beyond slapping them with a summon and stunlicking them afterwards

[tardy aurora]

why u keep doing spoiler warnin its aloud in this one

[upper wolf]

it's a travesty we don't have a skelly emote

[drowsy linden]

just in case

[tardy aurora]

thats true

[mint coral]

Technically correct is the best kind of correct

[upper wolf]

also mort doesn't do damage either don't @ me

[mint coral]

Lmao

[tardy aurora]

ever do a melee weapon run like gloves or sword and u face a megagorgon who just wont stay above land?

[drowsy linden]

all their use cases in case you wanted to know them:
meg: ||damage, but requires skill||
than: ||big damage, not much skill(just timing)||
achilles: ||slightly less damage than than's, but much easier to use||
dusa:||decent for regular chambers||
skelly:||if you have a weapon that takes 2 billion years to charge and does like 4k damage||
bouldy:||farming resources, hoarding slash build||

[tardy aurora]

im closest to than rn so ima go for his when i can

do i prioritse it over epilogue?

also i just finished zues prophecy so yeah

[drowsy linden]

epilogue doesnt really give anything

besides the prophecy resources ig

[mint coral]

Knowing Than you'll get progress with epilogue whie waiting for him anyways

[tardy aurora]

wait do you only need talk to him? i thought u needed bond?

[drowsy linden]

bond comes with the companion

[drowsy linden]

well not exactly, but its close enough

[mint coral]

Than's favor is basically getting certain dialogues

[tardy aurora]

oh so umm dumping like 5 nectar into him wasnt needed?

[drowsy linden]

you still need nectar

[mint coral]

With how the dialogue system works + how often Than decides to actually talk to you most people have issues getting the lock to open

[drowsy linden]

companions are unllocked after the lock

[mint coral]

The companion is given on first ambrosia

So yeah not a waste

[tardy aurora]

so i got 2 options on my run rn, rivalry chamber with zues/poseidon or an athena chamber

[drowsy linden]

what aspect

[tardy aurora]

chiron

[mint coral]

What boon do you have on special

[tardy aurora]

ill check

doom

[mint coral]

Oh

[tardy aurora]

and i got explo arrow upgrade

[mint coral]

Ngl I wasn't expecting that lmao

[tardy aurora]

well im gon be using spec a lot so may aswell get more dmg

[drowsy linden]

explosive doesnt directly add damage

[tardy aurora]

no i mean doom

[drowsy linden]

its really only good if you want big number, or are using triple shot

[tardy aurora]

and i needed for prophecy

[mint coral]

I mean chiron doom "works" if you get dire misfortune

[tardy aurora]

i claim when i can

[mint coral]

But idk if you have it

[tardy aurora]

i dony

dont

norm i avoid clash chambers but i wanna know should i pick clash or athena

[cinder tartan]

i remember getting a build with chiron that had doom on the attack and poseidon on the special and it was incredibly good

[mint coral]

Do you only have explosive shot rn?

[tardy aurora]

yes

doin me good

[mint coral]

What biome you are in

[tardy aurora]

asphodel

[mint coral]

Aight funny answer would be take athena for attack, hope for twin or triple on 2nd hammer and disregard the special this run

Also what lvl is your chiron anyways

[drowsy linden]

generally, the trial rooms should be taken if you have athena as one of the gods offered, unless you dont think you can survive/the other chamber offers better rewards

the other gods are moreso based on aspect/playstyle/preference, i personally always take dem/athena trials unless i need to go fast

[tardy aurora]

ive got the mirror aspect i think it was u who said to change from purp

[drowsy linden]

which mirror talent

[mint coral]

Dark foresight?

I mentioned it earlier

[drowsy linden]

df is very cool

[tardy aurora]

makes it so hammer boons and more are more common

[mint coral]

Yeah foresight

[loud orchid]

So I met ||Tisiphone|| for the first time last night... that was fun

[tardy aurora]

oof i remember that, dam was not fun

[loud orchid]

https://tenor.com/view/movies-robin-hood-men-in-tights-robin-hood-quotes-script-gif-14851683

Legit my reaction.

[tardy aurora]

i prefer meg as i can sweep her aside with no dmg

alecto not so bad neither are tisi

if i can ill avoid both

[loud orchid]

I felt like a set of bowling pins and Tisi was the bowling ball.

[drowsy linden]

thats how encountering a new enemy in rogues is like

[tardy aurora]

tisi is a feeling of dread when you see her chambers apear earlier

[drowsy linden]

i feel like tis is free now

[tardy aurora]

meg is free to me

alecto is a bad time

[drowsy linden]

dont worry itll get worse when you try fo2 hl5 lc4

[loud orchid]

Megara is fun, especially when you realize you can reflect her Spray and Play laser attack right back at her with Athena's special boon with the bow.

[tardy aurora]

thats the neat part. i dont plan to

[tardy aurora]

yes! im not the only one

[cinder tartan]

i somehow forgot who ||tisiphone|| was so i had to google her

[drowsy linden]

max bounties(20 heat)

[loud orchid]

Deflect is so freakin' clutch in this game.

[cinder tartan]

theyre like the shortest one tho

[tardy aurora]

i hate the asphodel witches but athena dash makes it oh so fun

[cinder tartan]

and the big circles are fairly easy to dodge

[drowsy linden]

may i introduce you to my pal skull crusher

[drowsy linden]

wait till shes raged on fo2

[loud orchid]

Yeah I hate those damn Easter Island Heads

[cinder tartan]

what does that stand for i feel dumb rn

[drowsy linden]

forced overtime 2

[tardy aurora]

skull crusher is a easy fight, just wait, dodge away then bully em when unarmourded

[cinder tartan]

ohh

[drowsy linden]

44% faster enemies and attacks

[cinder tartan]

yeah yeah

[cinder tartan]

once you unlock ||summons (especially meg)|| they’re a breeze

[tardy aurora]

just noticed, IM 1 HEART FROM ATHENA FAVOR

[mint coral]

Summons do bully all minibosses lol

Except bombers cuz If I can't aim that nobody else can

[tardy aurora]

is it me but the first time u fight gemstone boss, u hate it

[mint coral]

Pink laser one in Styx or the doomstone in tart

Or MM barge

[sonic basin]

Question: In a run, how many times are you offered a Boon? Like, whats the maximum number of boons you can take?

[tardy aurora]

tart

[loud orchid]

Oh yeah I hate the stupid disco ball.

[mint coral]

As many as you can find

[tardy aurora]

cant bully it when u got mini ones reflecting on ur back

[sonic basin]

I figured there'd be a soft cap though and thats what I'm trying to fgiure out.

[tardy aurora]

good ques actually

[mint coral]

The softcap is reching dad basically

A run with a 2 sack in styx is like 50~ rooms

[tardy aurora]

just got dire misfortune so is my doom on special worth it now?

[cinder tartan]

i usually wait for one of them to jump near the other at the start of the fight and then immediately meg

[mint coral]

I'd say test it now cuz idk your chiron lvl

Also dmg may be lacking if you don't have poms on it

And find impending doom if it shows up later

[tardy aurora]

on doom? cuz uh when i mentioned it i alr leveled i to 3

[mint coral]

Good enough ig

That's like 100/120 dmg no

[sonic basin]

Hammer
Mirror Key
Boon
Out of Run Currency
Boon
Out of Run Currency or In Run Currency
Boon + Miniboss (Or Skull Room?)
Out of Run Currency
Shop or Pom
Out of Run Currency
Boon (Skull = Trial) or Heart
Pom
Heart or ??? (He didn't show it)
Out or Run Currency == Meg Fight

Thats up to Meg in a quick run I watched on Youtube.

[tardy aurora]

how are you meant to beat than by 15?

[mint coral]

get a good build basically

also poseidon stuff helps to knock enemies away of the instant death circle

[tardy aurora]

ok so far i got a hammer with 2 prophecy upgrades on bow

is 2 side by side shots better than consecutive with explo

im thinking 2 shots better but idk

[mint coral]

twin shot vs uh what hammer do you mean

[tardy aurora]

concentrated volley

[mint coral]

consecutive makes me think concentrated volley

lmao

if you wanna go all on your attack yeah take twin

[tardy aurora]

bcz uh as it is, like 300 per full shot

so 600 a shot on bosses with doom stacking special

id say sollid dps imo

[latent moon]

Conc volley is bad unless it's on chiron

[tardy aurora]

well it is chiron... and i alr picked

[mint coral]

this is chiron with explosive shot lol

[latent moon]

Ah

[mint coral]

and doom chiron

[tardy aurora]

explosive doom

[latent moon]

I guess that works lmao

Conc volley is a good pick then

[tardy aurora]

an amateur with a amateur build

[mint coral]

wait is doom on your attack or not

[tardy aurora]

and i build with whatev i get

no its on spec

[mint coral]

aight aight

twin + explosive works anyways lol

oh also are you dash striking?

[tardy aurora]

no not rn but should i? i kill most things standing still

[mint coral]

dash strikes charge faster at the expense of some less base dmg

[tardy aurora]

btw i also got deflect atk

so uh idk if tht matters

just got athena ares duo too

[mint coral]

lmao nice

[tardy aurora]

just got epic impending doom

welp ig beating than by 15 is easier with chiron build of exploding doom

[tardy aurora]

mm1 with aspect of chiron explo doom could have got me to end but i screwed up

[upper wolf]

mm1 ?

[undone tundra]

good evening hades discord

any vile run ideas?

[upper wolf]

dio beo ?

[stone rune]

hmmmm

[upper wolf]

world splitter zagsword ?

[undone tundra]

zagsword..

dio beo doesnt even sound bad

[upper wolf]

concentrated knuckle talos ?

[undone tundra]

ew.

ill do dio beo

[stiff obsidian]

artemis attack eris

[upper wolf]

[undone tundra]

😭

i dont have eris high lvl

in what world does a room1 boon not give cast even when rerolled

[mint coral]

get vorime'd

[undone tundra]

?!

[mint coral]

speedrunner that got rekt by rerolls during a agdq run lmao

[undone tundra]

💔

[mint coral]

the mod that makes it so all 4 cores are offered on first boon in the speedrun modpack is called antivorime lol

[undone tundra]

😭

yo i have an idea

ME hera

flurry shot.

its meant to be.

[lone kestrel]

I think Theseus forgot his spear, do you think I can keep it?https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/725021639506526249/1187897380297777313/image.png?ex=65988ea5&is=658619a5&hm=5d138333f29ade983febc7f4fd6ff9a4c78e8c9f041547c3108367e82ea61b5c&

[undone tundra]

new aspect 👍

[mint coral]

you can do that with dad's spear too

[lone kestrel]

In this single run, I finally got lightning phalanx (it's about the 5th run trying to get it), unlocked Demeter's final heart and Patroclus gave me the go ahead to help him and Achilles.

It's everything I've been waiting for.

[undone tundra]

huge

[lone kestrel]

I would like to start raising the heat on my other weapons but the 20% bonus keeps going to rail like every other use it seems.

[mint coral]

just ignore it

[lone kestrel]

But, it's 20% more.

[mint coral]

is just 20%

[lone kestrel]

How can I simply allow myself to gather resourses less efficiently when there's so much to unlock?

[mint coral]

just take the pos boon or an eclipse boon from chaos and you'll have more than that

• it will barely matter if you are doing fresh heat

darkness from bosses is really big

[lone kestrel]

I take those every chance I get.

Even is there is a pos boon that would make my build better, if there's any of the recourse boons, I'm taking those instead.

Same for chaos.

I started using Shady instead of Batty just for the chance of extra darkness.

I also keep taking golden touch and saving up so that I have enough money to buy the special resource in the Styx every run.

[upper wolf]

only use case of golden touch tbh

[rustic vale]

If you aren’t as good with the weapon, you won’t be able to make use of the 20% bonus anywyas

[rustic vale]

Someone clearly hasn’t seen the January monthly challenge

[rustic vale]

Yes

Faster runs is also faster resource gathering

So it’s also, in a way, increased efficiency

Also that 20% boost is additive

So if you’re darkness farming and significantly better with sword or bow

Then using those weapons could just be increased efficiency by itself, only increased if you take further darkness boosts

[upper wolf]

indeed. What did I miss ?

[rustic vale]

#h1-builds-and-combat message

[upper wolf]

yoooo that's so cool

[rustic vale]

|| https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795659377755422742/1187923569158668438/IMG_2793.jpg?ex=6598a709&is=65863209&hm=769fbf96c5c23bfabc4d84f3e24b07d9a5a7f3d07baff563807173bb240ea8d5&

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795659377755422742/1187923513936457758/IMG_2784.jpg?ex=6598a6fc&is=658631fc&hm=a07d328a2a3ae3b730065e4adc9b2cf793fa2f642b92c4f51a787ba76b7bf993&||

[upper wolf]

I wish I was active back then

[rustic vale]

Needless to say these were 3 of my attempts

Oh tf why did one link to a server
This was fixed

but yeah big obols was the goal

[covert hare]

am i the only one that waits until hades is home to buy new things?

i like to see his reaction lol

[stoic pumice]

why is the bull using hades shockwaves?

[jagged hamlet]

SAME!

[latent moon]

You just got through the heroes friendship arc

[jagged hamlet]

And Thanatos in his corner, Archilles in the hallway, etc.

[latent moon]

They got a new combo move

[jagged hamlet]

Hades is just an anime

[lone kestrel]

Oh, is that the why they started doing it. I was wondering why did they start working as a team after a certain point.

Caught me off guard the first time ngl.

[covert hare]

thanatos has purchases reactions?

never noticed since he is almost never there

[jagged hamlet]

He does!

At least for furnishings in his little corner

[covert hare]

I wonder if nicte has

Since you can buy flowers for her corner

[jagged hamlet]

She does!

[covert hare]

Damn it then I missed a dialogue

[latent tide]

how to get a members card from charon

[rustic vale]

Murder

[latent tide]

huh?

[rustic vale]

I said what I said

“Borrow” 300 obols from your older brother & then engage in a life or death battle

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1088591737309638746/1188067961941016688/image.png?ex=65992d83&is=6586b883&hm=4eaad2ffe979a39784ac81a6db96b0c641d1594838e85ca9dd4690c52332f366&

my reward isnt spawning and i cant leave

[tardy aurora]

have you searched around the room?

have you relogged in?

[latent tide]

do you guys reckon stubborn defiance is better than death defiance?

[tardy aurora]

id say equal, dd is better in long run

if you can beat up to hades easily enough and avoid... a certain rodent, DD is better in long run

[upper wolf]

Both have their uses

Stubborn is mandatory (unless RI4 lol) for LC4

Death defiance is better in most other cases

Although I imagine stubborn is better if you have a weird pact where normal rooms are hard but you don't use LC4

And ofc stubborn is better if you don't have multiple DD

[tardy aurora]

just maxed out demeter aspect

[upper wolf]

congrats ! it's a fun one

[devout terrace]

no max level

[upper thorn]

Hi! Does higher heats give you better reward?

As in darkness and gemstones

[devout terrace]

nope

[upper thorn]

Bro

Are you THE angelL1C?

[devout terrace]

only way to get those modifiers for extra rewards is chaos and ocean's bounty

[devout terrace]

yeah

[upper thorn]

BROOOOOO

How does it feel

To be the first person beating heat 64

Big fan

I'm struggling at 20 😭

[devout terrace]

feels good

[void vigil]

Keep at it and you’ll be in #h1-high-heat-strategies doing 40 in no time. Lol

[devout terrace]

i never expected it to blow up online like it did

but I had extremely good timing with haelian's vid

[upper thorn]

Yes:))

[devout terrace]

I had a 20% impression to click ratio on youtube on the first day

or something insane like that

[upper thorn]

Good for you man

Welp gotta 100% the contractor

Cya

[devout terrace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/876434440576958494.gif?size=44&quality=lossless

[mint coral]

Neko atsume cats my beloveds

[devout terrace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/901889174884466698.gif?size=44

[upper wolf]

Angel1c do be goated

[devout terrace]

There's been another one actually

3 months after

[upper wolf]

I think banana said there was someone who also beat it on a technicality? No personal liability but shield didn't proc in the run so it wouldn't have changed anything

[devout terrace]

it was modded

only myself and Bai have done an unmodded run

[silk stone]

@undone tundra is aspect of achille good on the spear (say yer opinion)

[undone tundra]

i dislike it from the technical side

but by god does it do damage

[mint coral]

Is the best aspect for it

[undone tundra]

silly good cast builds

[silk stone]

what about the last aspect?

[undone tundra]

(crystals)

[void vigil]

I love it, when I was clearing my bounties it’s the only one I used. So fun to zoom around

[silk stone]

like the unknown aspect

[undone tundra]

its weirddd

[silk stone]

teleportation 👽

[undone tundra]

spin focused

[wary iron]

Crystals into arty call

[silk stone]

hmm

how to unlock it?

[mint coral]

Good with hammer, sad without it

Check #h1-story-discussion pins

[undone tundra]

also it guts your hp.

[silk stone]

ogey imma go do a run

goodbye fellars

[undone tundra]

DONT PLAY SPEAR FOR ONCE

glhf

[void vigil]

If you prioritise hearts it’s probably not too bad, but I only played it once, unleveled. And won 😤

[undone tundra]

you mean guan yu?

[silk stone]

i only like spear and the machine gun 😎

[void vigil]

yep

[mint coral]

Yeah that sounds like gy

Funny about is how levelling it up doesn't make you stronger really

[undone tundra]

i mean with guan you can just spin and not die unless oneshot

[mint coral]

Just less glass than lvl 1 glass cannon

[undone tundra]

yeaa

[mint coral]

If only the spin was better

[undone tundra]

reconsider.

[undone tundra]

quick spin:

anyway, angelic in chat, no way

[void vigil]

My favorite used to be the fists (talos too…) but to finish the ranks I just played Hera bow a bajillion times

[stiff obsidian]

based

[mint coral]

Me resetting for charged skewer

[undone tundra]

talos player, based

[silk stone]

yes

im based

asf

[undone tundra]

charged gy?

interesting.

[mint coral]

Cskewer is its best hammer

[void vigil]

After reading stuff in this server I switched to Demeter aspect and wouldn’t you know it, I was doing way more damage

[stiff obsidian]

charged guan yu best guan yu

[mint coral]

You have exploding launcher built in with gy

[stiff obsidian]

funnily enough i am playing guan yu right now

[undone tundra]

i had a fun talos run yesterday

[silk stone]

wait

is hades II out?

[undone tundra]

dio attack w aphro duo

[undone tundra]

no

[silk stone]

oh

[undone tundra]

then some damage amps

[silk stone]

hades II would be so good

AHHHHHH

[undone tundra]

and extra attackspd lol

went hard.

[silk stone]

i love-hate this game 😔

[undone tundra]

hey san

you should try bow with artemis boons

[silk stone]

i hate the bow

with all my heart

😭

[last veldt]

Have you tried hidden bow?

[silk stone]

wHATS DAT

[last veldt]

The 4th aspect which needs to be unlocked.

[silk stone]

bro das hard to get

[void vigil]

I didn’t like it, but I’m so used to the rhythm of regular bow that anything else seems hard to play

[silk stone]

idek what it does

[last veldt]

And if you haven't unlocked aspects yet, don't worry.

[silk stone]

i only unlocked something with twin fist and like uhhh aspect of achille with the spear

[last veldt]

Ah, okay, so no-one of the hidden weapons yet I guess.

The hidden weapons have a different feel to the others.

Hidden bow is a big change, as is hidden sword.

[silk stone]

https://imgur.com/a/5OGkZO4

what shud i pick

from chaos

[stiff obsidian]

what aspect

[silk stone]

achille

spear

[stiff obsidian]

it depends on a lot of things

like what your boons are and what chamber it is

[silk stone]

i have zeus' boon where if i attack i deal electric damage

thats it

and uhh its a chamber in like tartarus

like 3rd chamber maybe

[mint coral]

Could do lightning phalanx (zeus-athena) so +1 cast sounds good

[silk stone]

okay thanks

btw are encounters like how many chambers or is it just like enemies

[mint coral]

Each chamber with combat is an encounter

[undone tundra]

^

[silk stone]

yeh but like does 3+ encounter mean like 3 enemies do 47% more damage

[undone tundra]

this nitwimp so halfwitted...

[mint coral]

Things like enshrouded from Chaos count chambers in general

[silk stone]

im based

[silk stone]

oh

[mint coral]

For 3 combats all enemies do the increased dmg

[undone tundra]

enshrouded is chamber reward right

[silk stone]

ic

thanks

[mint coral]

Also apply to bosses so take care of those

[silk stone]

oh dayum

[mint coral]

I've seen one too many people taking -dash distance into a boss lol

[undone tundra]

as a bow lover i rlly dont like it

just feels clunky

[silk stone]

ermmm i totally dont do that

👽

[silk stone]

youre bow based

gr

[mint coral]

To know if you are soon to the boss, chefk your chamber count

Ch12/22/34 are the last combats in each region

[stiff obsidian]

wow just did 50 heat with guan yu

[silk stone]

how many chjambers till meg sisters or meg herself

[undone tundra]

12

[silk stone]

thanks

[undone tundra]

as in

12 chambers then shop/whatev, then boss

iirc

[mint coral]

If you do funny chaos/erebus things you can make it so the last combat is a chamber further

Also yeah that's right

[silk stone]

DAYUM

why do the bosses do so much dmg now

[undone tundra]

bow is just fun to me, idk

[silk stone]

so hard

[undone tundra]

do you still have the extra dmg..

from chaos

[silk stone]

not supposed to

[mint coral]

What chamber were you in actually

[undone tundra]

open boon screen to see

[silk stone]

lemme see

naw i dont have the extra dmg thingy

[undone tundra]

weird

you dont have pact on do you

[silk stone]

uh

what

[stiff obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/1188111406365671514/image.png?ex=659955f9&is=6586e0f9&hm=8e46f78bfbd09ac9103ae5593fc3fb7cc9d3dcdfa1bd22a93bcb1e19dbf365ae&

[mint coral]

Learning the dash strike power shot rhytm helps a lot

[silk stone]

i have pact of punishment at the start of the run

[undone tundra]

yeah

[silk stone]

thats even harder 😭

[undone tundra]

did you select anything

[silk stone]

dash strike with the box

[silk stone]

nuh uh

[undone tundra]

weird then

[silk stone]

woah what is the aspect of guan yu

[undone tundra]

wait until he learns about hestia.

[mint coral]

Have you used god mode before? Have you turned it off recently

[undone tundra]

exactly what it says!

[silk stone]

never

[mint coral]

Or the more simple guess is that you had dmg reduction boons

[silk stone]

why health reduce

50 percent

dayum

[mint coral]

Or simply placebo effect

[undone tundra]

when you do spin with guan yu

it shoots the spinny forward

when it hits smth it heals you

[silk stone]

is it like the cast with ares

thingy

[undone tundra]

kinda yeah

[silk stone]

thats good

[mint coral]

Cuz sgg overpunishes health recovery in this game

[undone tundra]

also it just deals more dmg

[silk stone]

fidget spinner

[silk stone]

dayum

[undone tundra]

but regular attacks are slower

[silk stone]

what

😭

[silk stone]

BRUEH

hermes is a must then

[mint coral]

All the health draining options are kinda really eh lmao

[undone tundra]

also special is better 👍

[silk stone]

what is it

[silk stone]

rip

[mint coral]

No recall, higher base dmg and has AoE

[undone tundra]

deals more dmg, explodes, dont have to recover

[silk stone]

thats good

THATS REALLY GOOD

[mint coral]

Is exploding launcher built in basically

[undone tundra]

yeah

[silk stone]

i love the exploding thingy with the daedalus hammer

[mint coral]

At 5 less dmg (gy is 45, exploding is 50)

[undone tundra]

gy special does 45?

or just the aoe

[mint coral]

Is 45 base dmg yeah

[undone tundra]

huhhh

[silk stone]

5 less damage aint bad

[stiff obsidian]

the aoe does the same damage as hit

[silk stone]

since its built in

i go asphodel now

i hate asphodel

keep stepping on fire

[mint coral]

Wait let me check actually

[undone tundra]

i cant check rn 💔

[mint coral]

Idk if I'm thinking ff+high confidence lmao

[undone tundra]

👁️

[stiff obsidian]

ik gy does 45

[undone tundra]

but like it hits both with the spear and explosion right

damn now i wanna try gy special build

[silk stone]

yes leave behind the bow

bow of misery

[undone tundra]

never.

[mint coral]

It doesn't explode like exploding

[undone tundra]

yeah it just has aoe as it flies

[stiff obsidian]

and pierces

[mint coral]

The hitbox is just bigger than what it shows

[undone tundra]

funny crackling sound

[mint coral]

Get charged skewer and you'll get a glass cannon hestia

[undone tundra]

lmao

shackle.

and chaos scaling

good idea

[stiff obsidian]

45*3 is 135 right

[mint coral]

Or aphro for weak

[stiff obsidian]

and hestia is 150

[undone tundra]

y

[mint coral]

Aphro epic is the same as shackle lol

She has the highest %

[undone tundra]

yeaa

[mint coral]

And you can pom it

[undone tundra]

but at the same time

[mint coral]

And you get to equip a defensive keepsake

[undone tundra]

aphro doesnt really have good tier2s

[mint coral]

Which you want with your reduced hp

[stiff obsidian]

shackle doesnt have any teir 2s

[undone tundra]

def keepsake? nah, we ball

[stiff obsidian]

[undone tundra]

rather have nothing than +10s weak duration

[stiff obsidian]

[mint coral]

Poms and chaos are you scaling

Also weak surrender

[tardy aurora]

how long was hades in development?

[undone tundra]

yea yea

[mint coral]

Also aphro is half of smair which is always busted

[stiff obsidian]

eury for heroic special is very ncie to have

and special actually is 150% at epic lvl 1

atk is 100%ish

[undone tundra]

lmao good idea

[mint coral]

Oh yeah special is higher lol

[undone tundra]

big bonks gy q

gonna do that later

[mint coral]

Early access was from 2017 to 2020 but idk when they began

Developing hell series in yt may mention it?

[undone tundra]

also silly idea i had before
see how much damage you can take from a trap

[tardy aurora]

because if everything was drawn by frame each

[mint coral]

Or check the #ask-supergiant

[tardy aurora]

then that would take ages

[undone tundra]

writing down all the dialogue probably took longer anyway

tro

[mint coral]

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL-THgg8QnvU4JEVov1tMlFThNYS92F8uC&si=Bu57lrBFUWRpd41b

[tardy aurora]

google says 3 years

[mint coral]

Even if the answer isn't there is still a good watch

[stiff obsidian]

i think drawing frame by frame was left behind in the 20th century

[undone tundra]

chaos, hightened security

[undone tundra]

cuphead my beloved

[tardy aurora]

cuphead says otherwise

[stiff obsidian]

i meant like as the main method for animation

[mint coral]

What's the highest dmg trap again

[undone tundra]

yea its just too time consuming

[mint coral]

100?

[undone tundra]

styx guillotine i think

30? 50?

[mint coral]

I know pots do 150 but you aren't taking chaos curses to dad

[tardy aurora]

50000 frames all drawn by hand in cuphead

[stiff obsidian]

ik styx axe hits for 150 with hs

[undone tundra]

soo 30 base

chaos gives like +350%

[tardy aurora]

like drawing frames, coding overall hades is just worth it, but objectively easier on kbm than controller, i played with both, couldnt do much good on controller, struggled on even single fight v asterieus

[undone tundra]

??

[mint coral]

That's simply preference

[undone tundra]

on controller you get autoaim and smoother movement

but yea pref

[mint coral]

Kbm does have better aim for stuff like lucifer special or zeus shield but that's more towards the skill ceiling of those lol

[undone tundra]

yeaaa

rail special in general is easier on kbm

crazy grammar jfc

[mint coral]

Is part of why I love rocket lmao

[undone tundra]

clockets

[tardy aurora]

I BEAT HADES WITH NO DD POPPED

HOW THE HECK DID I DO THAT

254 DAMAGE AND NO DD POPPED

[mint coral]

Gamer

[undone tundra]

what!

[tardy aurora]

ye i had demeter aspect maxed but that should not have been so easy

ill send ss in boasting hang on

[mint coral]

And a big pool of hp I guess

[undone tundra]

300hp 👀

[tardy aurora]

is that alot?

[undone tundra]

quite a bunch lol

i rarely go over 200 unless styx decides to give me a +50

[tardy aurora]

i did have athena greater call a few times doing tht battle lol

[undone tundra]

call charges faster with quicker attacks

and youre on gloves so

[tardy aurora]

and i had a +78% charge rate when dmging or being damaged

[undone tundra]

yea was abt to ask

also its only on your dmg i think

as in, dmg taken

[tardy aurora]

ohhh

still fastest i beat hades, even zag commented on ot

[undone tundra]

yea zag loves to talk

what happened in the 40min bow run 😭

[tardy aurora]

hmm?

[undone tundra]

on your win screen

it shows fastest clear /highest heat for each wep

[tardy aurora]

i think bcz i had to do somin and i tabbed out

[undone tundra]

oh lol

fair

[tardy aurora]

i sent it in boast if u wanted see it

[winter plaza]

requiem

a jojos fan

[undone tundra]

the yoyo

[tardy aurora]

indeed

[winter plaza]

yoyo build confirmed

[undone tundra]

pos talos

trol

[tardy aurora]

whats the best aspect besides demeter and chiron, for other weapons

[undone tundra]

very subjective

dps wise cast runs go crazy

[winter plaza]

just use nem sword like a chad

[undone tundra]

i feel like nem without good boons is underwhelming