@stone rune good?
#h1-discussion
heady monolith
native blade
Fun.
formal orbit
I would slap FO1 a lot earlier to make the learning curve smoother
formal orbit
yeah, just me hating on CF1
upper wolf
I would unironically slap heightened security on like heat 9 or something 
formal orbit
based
upper wolf
I'm having fo2 on my 32 pact
formal orbit
mine was cf2 lc2 fo2 with dd
upper wolf
mostly for fun tbh
stone rune
ive done fo1 50
stone rune
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380393966970863620/1162065352461660281/im...
roll
stone rune
formal orbit
stone rune
hl5 lc4 cf2 js2 em3 cp1 bp2 mm uc fo1 ri2 dc2 ap2 td3 pl
best pact
fo1
no hs
no em4
stiff obsidian
fist suck
tepid light
u suk
stiff obsidian
rude
tepid light
gottem
native blade
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/380393966970863620/1162065352461660281/im...
Mirror?
heady monolith
watch my next fated weapon be fists
native blade
@heady monolith I have suggestions.
jagged hamlet
RNG: gotta love it!
heady monolith
<@333479867117207553> I have suggestions.
ngl you have the weirdest suggestions but go ahead
native blade
ngl you have the weirdest suggestions but go ahead
Pstats, trust.
U can go back anytime.
stone rune
painge
heady monolith
Ngl kinda miss ares, he rarely shows up but when he does it's usually when there's a better path so he goes extinct after that
heady monolith
Pstats, trust.
Sure, whenever i finish all fated persuasions i suppose.
native blade
Sure, whenever i finish all fated persuasions i suppose.
Fair.
native blade
Ngl kinda miss ares, he rarely shows up but when he does it's usually when there...
Ares keepsake?
heady monolith
Not sure where he would exceed
Why would i pick him over zeus when using rail or fists
Or pick him over aphro when using bow/spear/sword
Or athena when using excalibur
Just don't see where he'd be better as a starter
And he's rare for some reason as runs go
native blade
And he's rare for some reason as runs go
Ye, u like Fersuasion?
upper wolf
Merciful end is one of the most broken build in the game
And for it you even start ares
Hopefully getting an epic
native blade
^
upper wolf
The only two builds I can think of that are stronger than ME are mirage shot Beowulf and clockets
latent moon
Not sure where he would exceed
ares is pretty much only good for merciful end or hunting blades builds lmao
upper wolf
Which, coincidentally, are bugged to hell and back
latent moon
The only two builds I can think of that are stronger than ME are mirage shot Beo...
crush shot hera lmao
upper wolf
Fair
Tbh Hera needs like 2 boons
ME needs about five thousands
At least that's how it feels
latent moon
sounds about right
although technically hera is also bugged
although a good achilles cast build is stronger than ME
because achilles doesnt run ME for speed
and achilles isn't bugged lmao
heady monolith
ares is pretty much only good for merciful end or hunting blades builds lmao
Yeah I always go for those when he comes mid way through
Never used his keepsake tho
heady monolith
Merciful end is one of the most broken build in the game
Which weapon
heady monolith
I love getting ares with fists
native blade
I love getting ares with fists
Same.
heady monolith
It always goes like
Zeus normal
Aphro special
Ares cast
Artemis arrows
Tidal dash
Poseidon call
This allows me to get spam calls(zeus+aphro)
Double cast(poseidon+arty)
Hunting blades(arty ares)
Potentially arty legendary making casts go nuts
One of my fav builds
mint coral
It always goes like
Zeus normal
Aphro special
Ares cast
Artemis arrows
Tida...
How are you opening blades or mirage in this build
heady monolith
Which one is mirage
If u mean hunting blades, i mentioned arty arrows
If mirage is poseidon, also arty
mint coral
You need a core boon from her
stone rune
call
heady monolith
arrows
mint coral
"poseidon call"
heady monolith
U know the one that shoots heatseeking arrows when u do anything
Basically free dps
stone rune
support fire?
mint coral
That doesn't open any duos
heady monolith
I mentioned poseidon call
stone rune
doesnt open anything
mint coral
Not a requisite for either
No
Is specific boons, cores mean for example the boon that show to your left on the hud
Attack/special/cast/dash/call
native blade
For Bae, should I get Aphrodite dash, special or atk?
mint coral
Bae?
heady monolith
heady monolith
Attack/special/cast/dash/call
no
mint coral
Wym no
heady monolith
Never got any of those with fists and i still got her duo multiple times
I like her supporting stuff like arrows and hunting marks
native blade
I like her supporting stuff like arrows and hunting marks
PP?
heady monolith
Big pp
heady monolith
Yeah and those don't open duos from arte
Idk what you're talking about
I just know i got hunting blades and mirageshot multiple times without getting a core arty boon
mint coral
Is legit impossible
heady monolith
k
mint coral
Do you have access to the admin chamber
heady monolith
I mod 
heady monolith
none
Still don't get why I'd need an arty core, pretty sure u need a core of one side only
So having ares cast means u can do arty support
mint coral
Do you have the codex upgrade
heady monolith
Poseidon dash and arty supp
mint coral
To see the boon list
heady monolith
yeah but idh access to the game
serene sage
its impossible to get satyr sack from first room right?
cus i just got it and honestly i didnt know it was possible
mint coral
Might wanna double check is the first tunnel
mint coral
Send pic to another server or use smth like imgur
Then copy the link
There's embed perms
native blade
I just know i got hunting blades and mirageshot multiple times without getting a...
Nah, I checked.
U had Artie atk when u got hunting bladesZ
mint coral
Send pick of cerberus gone?
heady monolith
U had Artie atk when u got hunting bladesZ
How
Id never use anything other than zeus atk with fists
native blade
Go check, u had it.
serene sage
Send pick of cerberus gone?
also it says right there "i can leave, or explore more tunnels"
serene sage
i have 2 mods on but none of them should affect them
i got one where i can reset the run when i kill hades but keep all my boons and another one that adds xp to my weapons
stone rune
tepid light
Well, just shredded dad with not a single dd spent and having lost less than 50% of my hp
That was a very strong build
serene sage
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/787779476888354816/1146189529330499695/...
idk what this means :/
stone rune
it means that the minimum biome depth for a sack is 7 rooms
mint coral
4-5 chambers iirc
serene sage
mustve been a glitch
stone rune
related to your mods
jagged hamlet
Could probably look through at those lines in LinusTearier's install
little mountain
I'm on switch does that delta charge bug still work where your invulnerable during dash attack?
latent moon
yeah it should
little mountain
oki thanks
stone rune
arthur got sub6
mint coral
Wait what
latent moon
What
latent moon
Budget shadow slash lmfao
mint coral
it was for styx
I saw 
It makes sense when reading the explanation but is still so funny
stiff obsidian
TIL sunken treasure nectar doesnt give u a pom
stiff obsidian
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/771815559410876446/1162116688498675722/...
wow
jagged hamlet
Shawl 👀
latent moon
Jazz is not allowed to say Arthur sucks anymore since Arthur has a sub6 now
upper wolf
Arthur OP ??
also is there a video of that run ? Sounds interesting
I kinda wonder how often bablo actually uses the sword, instead of getting 99% of their build damage from zeus/cast/etc
oh yeah, I meant about how they play
like if they're actually attacking/specialing or just lobbing casts, zooming with tdash and pressing call
speaking of, I really need to get the dps mod. I'm always so curious about my dps
upper wolf
fair
latent moon
like if they're actually attacking/specialing or just lobbing casts, zooming wit...
it's prob a lot of dash striking with casts weaved in
maybe special to kill off spawn for some enemies or swinging between waves so the third swing one shots the spawns
but tdash, cast, call, and rod with epic rd is kinda the main carry lmao
heady monolith
Cursed slash has to be one of the worst hammers
latent moon
yeah sounds about right
stone rune
it literally does not work
native blade
Really? Why?
latent moon
considering the optimal damage rotation on sword is special -> dash strikes -> repeat, cursed slash just doesn't proc ever
since it doesnt work on dash strikes
you can use it if you want if you find it fun, i just wouldn't tell people to take it lmao
muted tapir
I know this is technically music related, but did anyone grab this 4 vinyl set that Supergiant posted from iam8bit? I am sooooo tempted https://www.iam8bit.com/collections/vinyl/products/hades-original-soundtrack-4xlp
coral kite
Shopkeeper has a deal for 5 keys for one nectar
And 10 gems for a key
I wanna farm nectar
Should I buy a bunch of keys to get nectar?
mint coral
If you don't have more uses for keys feel free to do so
native blade
you can use it if you want if you find it fun, i just wouldn't tell people to ta...
Very fair.
desert tundra
Cursed slash flurry slash tho 
latent moon
if we're hunting 2 specifics hammers, clockets exists lmao
cursed and flurry both kinda suck but together they're kinda usable
then get like double edge and breaching/piercing lmao
jagged hamlet
How 'bout curry
latent moon
flursed
me and the boys playing the curry build in hades (there are no racial undertones here it is a combination of curesd slash and flurry slash)
desert tundra
I think you could've just not said that last part
tepid light
^
void vigil
I know this is technically music related, but did anyone grab this 4 vinyl set t...
Haven’t had the chance to play it, but i got it and it’s gorgeous
I got the bastion one too, but the regular edition, because I thought the yellow one sold out (it was the site being buggy)
terse ledge
Is there anything i missed as to why Hades isn’t on GeForce Now?
terse ledge
I’ll try to contact SuperGiant through their mail and see if they respond to my question concerning GeForce Now
void vigil
https://www.supergiantgames.com/contact/
You can use this form
but for what it’s worth it’s not on gamepass either
tepid light
Sea Storm is so fun
autumn rose
Seastorm spear with flurry jab and greater reflex 
brisk trail
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/987496174636380160/1162308347391901796/...
wooo
that was pretty awesome
native blade
that was pretty awesome
Indeed.
grand lotus
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/987496174636380160/1162308347391901796/...
call gauge go brr
stone rune
someone probably replied to a message of yours and deleted it
idt anybody rlly has @ everyone privileges other than the cool people
upper wolf
if only cool people have @ everyone privileges, why don't they use it ? If they're cool, people will like to be pinged by them 
upper wolf
fair enough
tepid light
TIL that ice wine works with scintillating feast
jagged hamlet
if only cool people have @ everyone privileges, why don't they use it ? If they'...
Clearly Greg K is too cool for us 
I like to imagine they lurk here and absorb gossip
upper wolf
maybe they try to steal our ideas for Hades 2
like uhhh
I have no idea
... it's a self-defense mechanism to avoid plagiarism. Entirely planned.
tepid light
world splitter nemesis is
entertaining
esp with artemis strike and aphrodite/artemis duo
basically just weird arthur
And hey, gift of song finally done as well!
jagged hamlet
I kinda don't mind World Splitter with Nemesis. If I accidentally launch a standing attack, better WS than the normal attack!
tepid light
It's a pity world splitter doesn't work with dash attacks
Because as it is, it forces you to just stand there and repeatedly attack
1000+ damage attacks on a non-arthur aspect is pretty funny though
stone rune
latent moon
what lmfao
omg it dodged the meg
you knocked it out of the hit and the bounce made it miss the second one lmfao
that's actually so unfortunate lmfao
tepid light
tidal dash worst dash, clearly
tepid light
ah mb
latent moon
base knockback on shield attack
latent moon
yeah lmao
upper wolf
I like world splitter on zagsword with swift strike
Is it good ? Meh. Is it entertaining ? Hell yeah
jagged hamlet
Chopchopchop!
native blade
Pulse go out after bullrush?
Pretty sure it would, ye.
stone rune
How curse of drowning work with beowulf?
it sucks
it goes around you
not around the place you shoot the bull rush/cshot
formal orbit
I’m watching haelian cod talos run and see flood flare in the duo boon requirement
Just curious
The fact that’s it block mirage shot is bruh
charred veldt
@errant whale I've yet to complete the last Hades achievement, the one with the pierced Butterfly. What build did you use for getting it?
I've tried a lot of combinations, but even no heat + shield + athena boon weren't a sucess recipe
mint coral
Hestia aspect of the rail works
jagged hamlet
Hestia is greaaat
mint coral
Or guan yu if you get charged skewer
charred veldt
Gonna test it
mint coral
Ideally you do most of the bonus in tart
So you only do like 2-3 rooms of aspho and done
formal orbit
I keep forgetting to try for bad call, man that achievement is painge
Dad call should be considered bad call in his fight tbh
stiff obsidian
i havent done it too
mint coral
I did it
On switch
stiff obsidian
whenever i nearly do it i feel forced to listen to my intrusive thoughts and kill the eyeball ive been letting resawn over and over at 95% gauge
mint coral
Just play out a boring run until aspho and happen to run into a trial
Then commit step on lava
jaunty saddle
YOOOO
charred veldt
got 18% in tartarus, hopefully getting the rest too
i always thought these had to be consecutive
phew
jagged hamlet
Whoa how. There are like 13 rooms total
jagged hamlet
Oh, I see! I must've mixed the percentages with Plume's
stiff obsidian
can rare crop hit heroic boons?
latent moon
shouldn't lmao
stiff obsidian
i dont really see why it wouldnt based on the description
unless they made sure it doesnt do that
latent moon
i mean like the whole point of rare crop is to get a heroic so taking it away then giving it back is a bit backwards lmao
stiff obsidian
i mean like so is buying an aether net after selling call but its still possible
grand lotus
what do yall think is the worst dash
latent moon
nasty dash
jagged hamlet
It has to be between Demeter's Dionysus's
grand lotus
only reason i would pick demeter is to get the secondary boons
native blade
errant whale
<@773373512177418277> I've yet to complete the last Hades achievement, the one w...
sorry friend, i don't remember using a specific build, i just got it by being mindful of dodging more than usual
but i think other people answered you with good strats i'm sure
native blade
short glen
All these images failing to load
upper wolf
I can only see the preview yeah
mint coral
I can't even see the preview
stone rune
looks fine to me
i dont know what they're mean to be for
other than to show us shackle start on gilga and egg start
dusky basalt
hey im curios what do i need to do in order to unlock the ability to unlock a weapons aspects?
stone rune
hey im curios what do i need to do in order to unlock the ability to unlock a we...
just have all weapons unlocked
dusky basalt
just have all weapons unlocked
no for example i can only spend blood on the gun but id like to be able to spend blood on the shield or sword
i have all the weapons unlocked by the way
dusky basalt
post a link to post images
what link
dusky basalt
an image link
how do i get image links for steam screenshots
dusky basalt
ok
jagged hamlet
I like to message a bot with my image
stone rune
is someone posting and deleting messages
wary iron
Yes
dusky basalt
is someone posting and deleting messages
i did as i tryd it a it made a link to a private server
dusky basalt
done
jagged hamlet
You must needs select a weapon first, then interact with the selected weapon to access its aspects menu
dusky basalt
also how do i unlock th 3rd aspects like the aspect of paowolf or the aspect of lucifer
stone rune
pinned in #h1-story-discussion
native blade
What do y’all choose at Eurydice and why?
stone rune
usually nectar
because thats when ur getting ur hermes or mirage
poms if u have bad poms or if u have mirage but bricked hermes already
ambrosia if ur feeling funny
mint coral
desk offers more gameplay uses
admin chamber is for info on past runs + a few quests down the line
native blade
ambrosia if ur feeling funny
Ambrosia is the one that randomly ups 2 boons that u have rii?
stone rune
yeah
formal orbit
I’ve just seen bablo run, is rod that important for speedrun?
formal orbit
The sub6
stone rune
the arthur?
formal orbit
Yeah
stone rune
yeah
rod on badspects is super important
specifically arthur and chiron
but also other trash
heady monolith
rama build?
stone rune
Probably eshot do the heavy lifting in tart
eshot can be rlly good
formal orbit
rama build?
Chonky attack, flat damage special, hunter dash
Twin shot
If you feeling spicy, triple can work
heady monolith
mirror?
formal orbit
Yeah, that’s sound good
latent moon
I’ve just seen bablo run, is rod that important for speedrun?
it's kinda important for arthur and chiron because they lack aoe and rod is budget aoe lmao
i remember someone saying that no rod lernie is impossible to go fast on
stone rune
it needed to be edited i know
but idk if it got deleted in the process or something
its on the sheet
upper wolf
I read "rod is important for speedrunning" and thought y'all were talking about the rod of fishing lmao
tepid light
Ah the classic jazz experience of badmouthing arthur
latent moon
Tbf Arthur is bad for speedrunning and the topic is speedrunning lmao
tepid light
Yeah I saw
But jazz criticizing arthur is definitely a trend in general too
Also, another secure victory ruined by 150 damage pots
coral kite
I might go for fists dash build
But I wanted higher heat so my run that I haven’t finished yet is Demeter dash
Poseidon dash Athena attack Zeus special Athena cast duo Athena Zeus boon and Hermes extra dashes
And Poseidon aid
I’m out for lunch so I haven’t finished the run
But I enabled em4
tepid light
I feel like you'd be better off with zeus attack athena special on fists
coral kite
Yeah but it’s still fun
tepid light
Fair enough
coral kite
Plus I have Poseidon dash
So my dash strikes can still deflect while having a knock back dash
heady monolith
Are demeter dash or call any good?
The better question is, what good boons does demeter have
I feel like lore wise she's way scarier than she is boon wise
stone rune
Are demeter dash or call any good?
no
stone rune
The better question is, what good boons does demeter have
rare+ attack is fine on things that u want high % on
snow burst/rav will both good in general
heady monolith
What's rav
stone rune
ravenous
heady monolith
Effect
stone rune
+10/20/30% more damage when u have no bloodstones
formal orbit
There are very few builds that need demeter
Hera happens to be one of them
Also a castpect
Rav will lightning rod run might be fun
But with arty, you rather have meme beam
tepid light
Unless your build is demeter-centric in the first place
demeter strike with sword or somesuch is quite nice imo
and ravenous will is helpful in general
formal orbit
That’s like FO0 at home, not fast but safe at least
latent moon
dem strike on achilles ice wine kinda felt sad but at least the ice wine was pretty fun
tepid light
I mean fast doesn't matter if you're dead
And chill definitely helps to counterbalance forced overtime, yes
And the joke here is that 'not fast' is what the enemy is when you have a demeter build
formal orbit
My main issue is time then survival
So yes, even i’m not speedrunning, i would like to go faster
formal orbit
At least once you get used to em4, you can push the pact much higher
4 heat is huge
tepid light
Haha, way ahead of ya
Pretty sure Extreme Measures was one of the first conditions I started pumping up on my pact in general
latent moon
So yes, even i’m not speedrunning, i would like to go faster
you could just try speedrunning a bit, that might help
if your goal is to mainly push heat i would prob recommend learning a bit of spawn manipulation
stiff obsidian
my goal is to play whatever i want until i get 325k darkness
formal orbit
Maybe when i reach about 1000 hours, I might get a 60 copium
stiff obsidian
im already at 900 
stiff obsidian
latent moon
we are all babies
formal orbit
226h
stiff obsidian
as a baby i can confirm
latent moon
oh i thought you were much closer to 1k lmao
stiff obsidian
yea lol
formal orbit
I really should be studying for interview tho
latent moon
226 hours and pushing 50 heat kinda gaming
latent moon
I really should be studying for interview tho
mood
i should be doing hw
i've given up on doing it
formal orbit
I skipped homework most of high school and still fine
University is a different story
stone rune
i think i have like 1200 atp
latent moon
University is a different story
unfortunately i am in college lmao
latent moon
august was 2 months ago
latent moon
homie's got a part time job playing hades
latent moon
why would you do that
stone rune
performance
latent moon
oh lmao
stone rune
it was like
latent moon
sure i guess
latent moon
do you clear run history
stone rune
yea
latent moon
oh then wack
latent moon
fair enough then lmao
stiff obsidian
what is run history i keep clearing it on accident
latent moon
it's quite literally your run history in the admin chambers lmao
it clears all of it except PBs
aspect and heat pbs for all aspects iirc
also how do you keep doing it on accident
stiff obsidian
what is is the button for it
stiff obsidian
apparently i do
formal orbit
Wait, you can clear run history? I assume that a mod thing
latent moon
part of 1.3 modpack iirc
there's also a way to do it through the mod settings menu
hitting summon 5 times is the shortcut
although idk how you do that accidentally
formal orbit
Speedrunner sure are optimial freak and I sure respect the hell out of them for that
stiff obsidian
heatrun modpack for forced patty when
latent moon
Speedrunner sure are optimial freak and I sure respect the hell out of them for ...
tbf like if you have a lot of runs, it makes load times longer
so it kinda shafts rta
stone rune
the thing is the modpack wasn’t rlly designed for heat
latent moon
although it takes like a couple thousand for that to happen
stone rune
it wasn’t even really designed for igt
latent moon
yeah lmao
stiff obsidian
is that why ionly have 50ish runs
charred veldt
but i think other people answered you with good strats i'm sure
Yeah Hestia is working pretty well actually! Might take a couple attempts because I'm not the best player on adamant rail, but I'll get there 😄
tepid light
I'm more wondering if they don't realize that the hermes boon exists
stone rune
nobody tell this person that you have to wait between attacks too
tepid light
wow this might be the first time i've ever agreed with you jazz
that's literally what i was thinking
stone rune
fortunately i have never been wrong
tepid light
I can understand not realizing how strong casts are in general
But what is that reasoning
tepid light
fortunately i have never been wrong
brisk trail
i just beat hades for the first time
tepid light
i just beat hades for the first time
ayyy, congrats!
brisk trail
yeah
i gone zeus shield
privileged status build
to all you pstatus haters, how about that
yessssss
wait
I die after that
what the f
formal orbit
It do be like that
desert tundra
Death is inevitable
formal orbit
There is no escape
tepid light
DUN DUN DUN DUUUUUN
brisk trail
what aspects should I get
i have zeus shield
eris and hestia
as well as chiron
and I have 1 titan's blood
rose roost
Hera, demeter
formal orbit
those need 2 bloods
rose roost
I c, well you should get em when u have enough
native blade
Tips for buttons when using controller?
wary iron
Tips for buttons when using controller?
When using fists I like to use the triggers for attack and dash, attack being in the right, that could probably also work for non Hera bows (bc if dash strike) and for cast aspects, you might want to put the load cast button on a trigger
But it’s pretty much just what you’re comfortable with
native blade
But it’s pretty much just what you’re comfortable with
Kk, thanks for the advice! ‘Preciate it.
wary iron
Anytime
brisk trail
you know what'd be cool?
hades but anime
like, 10 episodes
each of them being a run
and the finale being having persephone back
coral kite
Oooo
Hmm if asterius has armor will he speak about the fists
Like I want aspect fists
Like usually when I meet him with em3or4 he talks about his armor
mint coral
There are some dialogues when he first has the armor but after those are cleared you should be able to
sour fog
Yeah he will run out of those
mint coral
Also removing em3 causes another dialogue about it
coral kite
Also removing em3 causes another dialogue about it
Oh
will he say “damn zag I was enjoying my armor man what the hell”
mint coral
Been a while so I don't remember it
He's probably happy about bot having it if anything
native blade
and the finale being having persephone back
Fr, I’d want one of Olympus tho.
With brief references back to Zagreus.
brisk trail
With brief references back to Zagreus.
i guess
then it'll be more like those anime where people just rizz each other and break up and stuff
idk sounds like one of those
native blade
idk sounds like one of those
Could be because it's Olympus but it could be a "The Good Place" type beat or sitcoms like Always Sunny or Parks and Rec.
brisk trail
idk, somehow the hades family of hades, persephone and zag is the most normal family in greek mythology
because the olympians have commited countless acts of adultery, pedophilia, and other weird stuff
basically, alabama
coral kite
Basically the most Hades has done is pretty tame possibly the worst thing he’s done is like cheat on Persephone or mess up Orpheus
Zeus:
Athena:
Aphrodite:
Literally every other god
Also I’m not sure if it’s in the game or I haven’t gotten to it yet but will Sisyphus ever talk about than or vice versa
upper wolf
meh, worst hades thing is probably the abduction if you go by the myth where it's not zeus who does it
upper wolf
Also I’m not sure if it’s in the game or I haven’t gotten to it yet but will Sis...
yes
stiff obsidian
if u take and lose an erebus gate does the god get added to ur pool
native blade
Ion think so.
latent moon
probably not since you didn't actually get anything
lucid pulsar
Anybody got tips for theseous and minotaur? ive tried the seeking bow with zeus+ poseidon combo thingy but i always die to theseous.
latent moon
chiron with poseidon special isn't that great unless you get concentrated volley
but like in regards to the actual fight
focus down bull first since he's more annoying
you dont want to deal with a god call and bull at the same time
try to keep a pillar between you and theseus while you focus down the bull so you dont get hit by a spear
but also be mindful of the spear throw with the target over your head
lucid pulsar
than whats good with chiron?
latent moon
if you can guarantee concentrated volley, going for heart rend with artemis special is good
otherwise, dionysus special is just consistent
with low tolerance
% specials feel kinda mid if you dont have concentrated volley
also depending on what level aspect you have, chiron can kinda suck lmao
drowsy linden
witch spam+chaos more enemies+js+clones+js+fo+speed+trial is painful
native blade
witch spam+chaos more enemies+js+clones+js+fo+speed+trial is painful
Indeed.
So you won rii?
drowsy linden
died to 2 witch spam rooms
the first one was speedy witch spam, the other was clones with chaos
i once had ath trial clones
latent moon
wdym with chaos
stiff obsidian
more foes
latent moon
roiling?
latent moon
roiling is kinda cursed
i did a nem 40 run and took roiling because i was like "hey it's only like 23%"
and then i picked up another roiling for like 60% lmao
2 epic roiling lunges was not the play
stone rune
i’ve taken low roiling for sheet grind before lol
latent moon
based
tbf like
a low roiling % isn't too bad
but the range is also like 20-80% or something
drowsy linden
mine was i think 43%
round hill
short glen
but the range is also like 20-80% or something
jesus
that is an absolutely enornous range
static shoal
hello! does tthe game lock you out of completing the Zeus favor if you reach the epilogue beforre doing that?
mint coral
why would that happen
static shoal
why would that happen
well, tthat's because Zeus's favor involves both Zeus and Hades saying that they would like to reconcile and become close again
but that already happens in the epilogue
mint coral
Fair, but nah it won't happen
At most it'll feel out of place lmao
And it'll take a while cuz everyone will be talking about the epilogue for some time
static shoal
And it'll take a while cuz everyone will be talking about the epilogue for some ...
agh
maybe i can complete it without triggering the epilogue
but it's gonna be so hard
i only haven't invited Demeter yet
static shoal
yup
static shoal
If she shows up roll her boon away
the bigger problem is this, though:
Zeus's favor requires a Duo conversation with Zeus and Demeter
static shoal
i can skip inviting demeter if i buy a boon of her from Charon
but it's gonna be haaaard
mint coral
If it skips the invitation chances are is that it also skips the zeus-dem dialogue
static shoal
i'm half-sure that duo dialogues can happen in the shop
mint coral
I mean worth a try?
static shoal
ikr
mint coral
But also woth dialogue system being somewhat rng you won't know if it'll eventually happen
static shoal
either that or i mess with my save file to uninvite Ares
and i have no idea how to do the latter
mint coral
Can also just do epilogue and rush spamming talks to zeus and dem ig
That'll also unlock dem heart tho 
static shoal
i do not understand which emotion that emoji is supposed to convey
it looks like Zag is with Meg in that pic
mint coral
Yeah
static shoal
getting whipped
mint coral
desert tundra
mint coral
what does mercifull end do
Inflict doom and hit them with anything that can deflect attacks (for example hit the enemy with divine dash), that makes doom drop instantly instead of waiting the timer and adds 40 dmg to it
tepid light
merciful end combined with impending doom is a special kind of satisfying
coral kite
merciful end combined with impending doom is a special kind of satisfying
Fists:
Nemisis:
coral kite
what does mercifull end do
By the way
If you are doing a merciful end build and you’re offered merciful end
TAKE IT
Always take it because it’s likely it won’t show up again
latent moon
Fists:
Nemisis:
what do fists and nemesis specifcally have to do with this lmao
it's kinda just like
any melee aspect
lucid pulsar
If you are doing a merciful end build and you’re offered merciful end
i am trying to get my first win, do you mind sharing a merciful end biuld ( thanks in advance if you do )
latent moon
i am trying to get my first win, do you mind sharing a merciful end biuld ( than...
ares attack, athena special, get duo, athena dash, find impending doom
then win
formal orbit
formal orbit
yeah, just pick from the fresh file speedrunner
latent moon
ideally you'd have not common doom too since the pom scaling on that sucks but same idea
lucid pulsar
ares attack, athena special, get duo, athena dash, find impending doom
why not athena attack ares special?
latent moon
it's more intuitive to dash strike
it's also why athena dash is important
your dash strike will immediately proc the doom
there's only 1 situation where doom special can work
the idea with an ME build is to just spam dash strikes until everything dies
formal orbit
there's only 1 situation where doom special can work
MEstia
jagged hamlet
With ME, is it better to take extra dashes or aim for Hyper Delivery when speaking to Hermes?
latent moon
lmao god no
latent moon
With ME, is it better to take extra dashes or aim for Hyper Delivery when speaki...
depends on rarity
idk like the right order of it all but like
common rd is better than common dash
formal orbit
latent moon
that's not doom special
formal orbit
yeah, but funny nonetheless
latent moon
true lmao
latent moon
With ME, is it better to take extra dashes or aim for Hyper Delivery when speaki...
but like you kinda have to do the mental math yourself lmao
if it's equal damage you take rd because of ichor scaling
and also less dashes is faster
i remember having a run where i had to choose between epic dashes or common rd lmao
and it's a pretty obvious choice there of what's better
in the middle you kinda just gotta brain it out unfortunately unless someone already has the list somewhere
lucid pulsar
what weapon tho
latent moon
quite literally any melee weapon lmao
sword, fist, spear
kinda shield but it's more awkward since the attack has a knockback
i found it more fun on fists but they all work fine
coral kite
what do fists and nemesis specifcally have to do with this lmao
They’re the most popular builds for fists and nemisis and very strong
latent moon
fists yes
nemesis no
it's kinda just sword in general
but nemesis has other stronger builds
coral kite
Ah
brisk trail
how do I unlock guan yu again?
it says I need to go to achilles with any weapon equipped
but that means favor?
formal orbit
pinned in #h1-story-discussion message
brisk trail
wait, I die again after beating hades twice
latent moon
isn't nem wr not ME
like most people who speedrun nem don't do ME
if they're gonna push low times they should do whatever's strongest
and if they're not doing ME then it's probably not as strong as other potential builds
latent moon
rama charges a lot slower yes
much more important to dash strike on rama than on other bows
slower charge but chunkier hits
heady monolith
Oh
latent moon
you kinda just have to learn to play around the slow charge
heady monolith
Is rama's special hammer good?
latent moon
by special hammer idk if you mean like the actual special or the aspect exclusive one but they're all bad lmao
rama's best hammer is twin shot
triple is also good but twin is just safer
you want to follow that up with point blank or perfect shot
heady monolith
you kinda just have to learn to play around the slow charge
Yeah it's alright i just meant time wise, also it's pretty dangerous since you're standing around from time to time
Somehow lived on 1hp in ely and started panic spamming special
latent moon
well like tbf other hidden aspects are also meant to be "slow but chunky" but some of them aren't chunky lmao
heady monolith
by special hammer idk if you mean like the actual special or the aspect exclusiv...
Exclusive, the aoe
short glen
well like tbf other hidden aspects are also meant to be "slow but chunky" but so...
they forgot to put the chunky into the gilga dash strike oops
and just in lucifer generally.
latent moon
well technically it's true for luci
short glen
oh?
latent moon
the ramp up in damage
so like
it takes time for the "big damage chunks"
but also like
no one really cares about that lmao they use lightning strike
latent moon
and everyone uses triple bomb
short glen
unfortunately, the one with the reload buff is doing the slow but chunky already
latent moon
lmao yeah kinda
heady monolith
and everyone uses triple bomb
I have no idea what purpose bombs serve, when i used it i mainly held primary and dashed around
latent moon
although i dont think it's that slow
short glen
I don't actually know how slow its reload loop is, but it's probably slower than just attacking
latent moon
I have no idea what purpose bombs serve, when i used it i mainly held primary an...
max level luci has base 100 damage for the special iirc
so triple bomb is 300 base burst damage
clockets is base 400 at point blank and is 2 hammers
triple bomb luci is basically clockets in 1 hammer
heady monolith
No but like how is it even efficient
By the time a bomb does anything the primary has already wiped
latent moon
you break the bombs yourself with lightning strike or your dash
latent moon
By the time a bomb does anything the primary has already wiped
not bosses
or ely enemies
and aspho
and chunkier tart enemies
heady monolith
For bosses I'd rather not even use bomb because they'll just move away and aim. Assist would. Explode the bomb
heady monolith
I just cant imagine it, i suppose because I've never seen triple bomb
Mainly talking about normal bomb
latent moon
well luci without triple bomb is kinda eh dps
at that point it's just like
normal lightning strike rail lmao
short glen
For bosses I'd rather not even use bomb because they'll just move away and aim....
isn't detonating the bomb like... optimal?
latent moon
also yeah
short glen
that's what makes it fast. You blow them up and then fire more lol
short glen
jesus
heady monolith
isn't detonating the bomb like... optimal?
When i used luci i was told that i should avoid detonating them as they act like aoe pools
short glen
Where did you get that advice?
latent moon
jesus
it's also like
easily replicable by anyone as long as they have triple bomb
the only thing is that it's easier if you have a mouse to aim
latent moon
When i used luci i was told that i should avoid detonating them as they act like...
no you want to blow them up for the base 100 damage lmao
the pulses are like
kinda ass
short glen
Where did you get that advice?
if it was reddit: never ever ever take build advice from reddit.
heady monolith
How come my bombs don't traverse that fast
heady monolith
Where did you get that advice?
This channel kek
short glen
the only thing is that it's easier if you have a mouse to aim
I do!
latent moon
the only time i'd say the pulse is useful is if you have like doom special and you just leave it there
jagged hamlet
But but but Chthonic Conversations
short glen
How come my bombs don't traverse that fast
I'm guessing that's a triple bomb thing.
heady monolith
I imagined triple bomb being spread out like the grenade launcher
latent moon
I imagined triple bomb being spread out like the grenade launcher
you do that in normal rooms
heady monolith
I'm guessing that's a triple bomb thing.
I assume so, cause my bombs r by no means that fast
jagged hamlet
They have a bit of travel time
jagged hamlet
Are you lobbing them super far or bringing yourself to the enemy?
latent moon
you can just shoot three
heady monolith
Define normal
latent moon
literally just triple bomb
heady monolith
Are you lobbing them super far or bringing yourself to the enemy?
I'm not sure..
latent moon
he doesnt have swift flourish
heady monolith
Anyways raygun goes brrr
latent moon
so it's quite literally just like
luci
it's just like travel time is always the same regardless of distance i think
so like
heady monolith
Would love another luci run but my boosted weapon is sword atm
heady monolith
Using arthur so much made me forget how fun nemesis was
latent moon
but like he doesnt have any boon that makes it faster
unless triple bomb has some secret tech that no one has ever found
heady monolith
After trying nemesis again i don't think I'll be using arthur anymore
latent moon
arthur is what rama is trying to be but bad
heady monolith
Speaking of nemesis how does doom sp arty normal sound?
latent moon
Speaking of nemesis how does doom sp arty normal sound?
doom sp arty normal?
oh doom special arty attack
uh
heady monolith
arthur is what rama is trying to be but bad
Arthur is for free wins, u have so much hp that dodging doesn't matter anymore
latent moon
arty attack good
doom special not
like it's fine
but also like
you'd just take doom special if you dont have anything better at that point
heady monolith
I wanna avoid aphro boons bc at this point my flower is 3*
latent moon
what about athena
heady monolith
I'm still not sure when it's a good time to go ares... The only boon I'm troubled with
heady monolith
straight up just merciful end
Never had the chance to get that somehow
latent moon
doom sucks without ME most of the time
and slicing shot sucks
unless you have hunting blades
latent moon
Never had the chance to get that somehow
did you have the right prereqs
heady monolith
I've had ares dash+cast builds
Idk i only hunted for prereqs once and by the time i got the duo i was at styx so ehh..
latent moon
that just happens sometimes lmao
heady monolith
Speaking of hunting how can i get the no reload hermes legendary
It's my only undiscovered hermes boon
latent moon
you need the prereq or just take plume into asphodel
take legacy in the mirror
that should help a lot
heady monolith
Kk thanks
latent moon
legacy + plume is a pretty good chance at getting it
dark hollow
Athena's pretty safe to defend
brisk trail
it might save me a smidge of health
dark hollow
She just puts a shield on enemies for a few seconds sometimes but she doesn't do anything to damage you
native blade
well like tbf other hidden aspects are also meant to be "slow but chunky" but so...
Gilga moment.
tepid light
ATHENA MY BELOVED
heady monolith
like, who should I offend
Never upset demeter, zeus, artemis, aphrodite if possible
Demeter aphro being the worst
Always upset dionysus and ares
Poseidon is like aphro but more knockback less dmg
stiff obsidian
how much does abyssal blood slow
oops i meant just move speed or attack speed too
brisk trail
Never upset demeter, zeus, artemis, aphrodite if possible
dam
ok
got it
anyways, what happens if you reach the surface after persephone returns
heady monolith
I died out of boredom
Rose spikes
Bumped by a chariot
Kicked by a goat
Sheer cold
Narrator assuming that beating hades was a dream
Simply dying
What else...
Wonder who the narrator is
brisk trail
I died out of boredom
Rose spikes
Bumped by a chariot
Kicked by a goat
Sheer...
boredom lol
heady monolith
Was hoping he'd show up especially since zagreus can hear him
brisk trail
proof that hades is weaker than boredom
imagine if there's one easter egg ending where he emerges at the wrong time and have to do a desk job
maybe at supergiant
would be fun
heady monolith
boredom lol
Boredom ending went something like "after realizing that life on the surface doesn't have the life threatening excitement of the underworld zagreus just sat there staring at the horizon"
Duun dun dun dun
Something along those lines
Wish i can check out olympus, such a shame
I wanna end the whole secret thing and persephone feels like she's going that direction but at this rate idk if it's gonna happen or not
Ps:pls don't spoil
tepid light
Been using Thanatos summon just for some variety
It's really a shame that Megaera summon is overwhelmingly the 'meta' choice because a lot of the summons are fun
heady monolith
I still think skelly summon is better for theseus fight