Unless using hidden fists or shields yeah
#h1-discussion
mint coral
More i-frames, movement, can use dash strikes more efficiently
signal bronze
but dodge chance
mint coral
And for people that say just get hermes that's a 
signal bronze
and damage
signal bronze
And for people that say just get hermes that's a <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
i was gonna say that but u dont get it everytime
mint coral
but dodge chance
Why depend on luck when you can just actually dodge it
signal bronze
all luck no skill
mint coral
and damage
I mean dmg is nice but if you are using % boons just use boiling blood
Same 50% and you keep your dashes
signal bronze
already use that
formal citrus
Same 50% and you keep your dashes
Not global tho
I enjoy ruthless reflex with zag fists and plume
mint coral
That's why I said for % boons
mint coral
I enjoy ruthless reflex with zag fists and plume
And so do I but that one is a bit of a meme
formal citrus
That's why I said for % boons
True
formal citrus
And so do I but that one is a bit of a meme
Apparently I perform best on memes
mint coral
Is a meme in the sense of consistency
If you just get the boons™ ofc it will be super safe
formal citrus
How many does it shoot
mint coral
How much dmg does it do on skelly
slim kelp
How much dmg does it do on skelly
105
mint coral
Special arrows do 10 iirc
slim kelp
From the front
How much should it do from front
formal citrus
Don't boiling blood and choose fiery presence
Or stand for enough away on the front of skelly
mint coral
Just to be sure your chiron is lvl 5 and it says 7 right
slim kelp
Just to be sure your chiron is lvl 5 and it says 7 right
Yes
mint coral
You may not wanna enter zag room so it doesn't save
slim kelp
9-->7
formal citrus
5 upgrades, 15 blood
slim kelp
You may not wanna enter zag room so it doesn't save
This has been for 1 week
mint coral
Ah
slim kelp
5 upgrades, 15 blood
Yes
formal citrus
Check the damage again
slim kelp
Check the damage again
How much should it be from front
formal citrus
Labelling is less and issue than actual performance
formal citrus
How much should it be from front
80
dense lotus
Just to be sure your chiron is lvl 5 and it says 7 right
8*
formal citrus
It did moe than 80 if I recall correctly
That's likely due to backstab
slim kelp
That's likely due to backstab
From front
dense lotus
Not in my case
Well that’s not right
upper wolf
Yeah, remove your mirrors
dense lotus
Read the rest of the convo
I just did
upper wolf
And keepsake if it's affecting damage
formal citrus
From front
Change to fiery presence,
slim kelp
Change to fiery presence,
Oh alright
mint coral
Bit of a random question
formal citrus
And keepsake if it's affecting damage
Oh yeah no shackle
mint coral
Are you in the last version of hades
upper wolf
I mean, resetting the mirror is easier, unless you're starved fir keys
mint coral
Chiron used to be 7 iirc
slim kelp
Are you in the last version of hades
Yes
formal citrus
I mean, resetting the mirror is easier, unless you're starved fir keys
Than changing to fiery presence? Definitely not
slim kelp
I mean, resetting the mirror is easier, unless you're starved fir keys
I have 53 keys if I recall correctly
23 sorry
formal citrus
No other mirror upgrade other than shadow presence or boiling blood would boost damage
And repurchasing the mirror is a bit of time
mint coral
If you are using fiery remember to hit skelly with an attack first
dense lotus
I mean if u r going to max out the mirror anyway leave it
mint coral
105
Going back to this
When you tested it all the arrows backstabbed?
7x15 is 105 after all
slim kelp
Yk I am not sure , next time I get into the game i will make sure to check
upper wolf
No other mirror upgrade other than shadow presence or boiling blood would boost ...
High confidence
formal citrus
True
upper wolf
It would be funny if "Zeus" was the banned word
slim kelp
How do I unlock pls
slim kelp
It would be funny if "Zeus" was the banned word
The server is called hades afterall
signal bronze
am so bad
mint coral
How do I unlock pls
Hear gods talk about him>wait till zeus says he wants to reconnect with dad>communicate amd report back
Favors are on the wili if needed
*wiki
signal bronze
How do I unlock pls
u can check the wiki for all those, i think its called favor
slim kelp
Hear gods talk about him>wait till zeus says he wants to reconnect with dad>comm...
Someone said I need hades opinion, how'd I get that , in battle or at home ?
slim kelp
Also does demter with 5 hearts count for one of the 6 gods for epilogue?
mint coral
Yeah zeus favor can be shortened to just talk to everyone lol
slim kelp
I got all God's favours done, even artemis
slim kelp
when I talk to other gods with his boon they just say other stuff bruh
I got chaos opinion
mint coral
Oh you are at 6 gods maxed already?
slim kelp
Oh you are at 6 gods maxed already?
Yes
mint coral
If you want to finish epilogue now is waiting for persephone to tell you about the invitations
And do that
slim kelp
Yes but I am a perfectionist so i wanna do zeus before epilogue lol
mint coral
Due to how the dialogue system works you are probably gonna take a long time
Epilogue related dialogues sure are getting high priority over the rest
slim kelp
Persephone give the quest after I heart all the gods yea ?
mint coral
After 6 gods are maxed the next part should be available
signal bronze
💀
slim kelp
You can't do thag in one run yeah ?
mint coral
It also takes longer between plays the further u are
Cuz you actually make small music and it takes a second or two
Vs at the start where it only makes the pluck
signal bronze
gonna take a while
mint coral
You can't do thag in one run yeah ?
You can but still need to reset for the orpheus dialogues
slim kelp
Bruh
Orpehis taught me smth
I think
She told me smth abt using my fingers in somway or stmh
slim kelp
Also one last question, are thre any VOCAL SONGS IN THAT PILE OF COURT MUSIC
mint coral
Nope
mint coral
Have the luck out into orpheus/eury singing
Or change the music volume in settings to play lament of orpheus
slim kelp
Have the luck out into orpheus/eury singing
Orpehus now sings everytime I enter the home
Not even a Pandora box reference in the game smh
upper wolf
You can also find the songs on internet I think
upper wolf
Can't wait for hades 2
crystal star
Is most likely a reference to her
slim kelp
Dorarararararara
signal bronze
dora the explorer
crystal star
D- D- D- D- D- dora
slim kelp
toxic trellis
Huh
That’s one way to get around the filter
upper wolf
I mean, the answer to that is probably "yes" regardless of context
It's a good euristic
Though you're gonna cry if you play AP, RI or UC
mint coral
Do drunk fists
upper wolf
indeed
little crest
I seek the wisdom of the Hades players! I am literally 1 achievement away from having 100% on Hades and all I need is the aspect of Rama to get it, is there a best way to spam Artemis until she gives me the keyphrase? I've been at it for like 30 minutes today with no luck and I want to have Hades at 100% before Hades 2 comes out haha
latent moon
I seek the wisdom of the Hades players! I am literally 1 achievement away from h...
Force Artemis in chamber 1 then die afterwards lmao
crystal star
I seek the wisdom of the Hades players! I am literally 1 achievement away from h...
You need to have at least 5 blood invested in bow aspects
rose roost
welp too late😅
little crest
You need to have at least 5 blood invested in bow aspects
I have every aspect and cranked one of the aspects all the way up because I kept trying to do full runs with the bow lmao
little crest
Force Artemis in chamber 1 then die afterwards lmao
basically what I've been doing so far 
upper wolf
check to be sure you have every requirement, and be sure to actually die and not just use "give up"
latent moon
basically what I've been doing so far <:zagcry:1012805268519780352>
Not much else than lmao
Take like
Ri4 hl5 and hs on the pact
That way you can die faster
little crest
lmao yeah will do, thanks for the advice!
latent moon
Or reset the mirror and put back everything except the death defiance
So you can keep double dash
little crest
YES I LITERALLY JUST DID IT APPARENTLY ALL I HAD TO DO WAS ASK FOR HELP
I LOVE THIS GAME SO MUCH BUT MAN DOES IT TROLL ME SOMETIMES
mint coral
Complaining always works
little crest
it truly does
latent moon
What heat
Oh prob 40
Poms
Rarity is too high roll and you need poms pretty badly lmao
Low tdash and none in jolted
pastel monolith
rng gods are displeased with..maybe u messed with some witch or something and got cursed lol.. did u do any other bad luck things? open an umbrella indoors? step on a sidewalk crack etc lol
meager basalt
Sacrifice a child and it'll be fixed/j
pastel monolith
at least pet cerby before next run
upper wolf
I'm so dumb
I tried removing the aim assist because "I'm on mouse and keyboard, I'm sure I don't need it"
My hestia run was a bungle from start to end
Then I enabled it again
Blood and darkness does it make a difference
stone rune
My hestia run was a bungle from start to end
try turning off aim at cursor
makes rail so much easier
upper wolf
I'll try out of curiosity, but I feel like I like the aim at cursor thingy
makes it easier to spin while charging a spear... Well, spin
stone rune
I'll try out of curiosity, but I feel like I like the aim at cursor thingy
only on rail
stone rune
the way it works on rail is that it just auto aims at enemies for u
u still aim with the mouse for the special
but the attack automagically connects
upper wolf
ok that does sound good, you got me there
white path
You can't get sea storm with tidal dash?????
mint coral
<#520430049003044864>
Slighty curious, how long does the eris buff lasts in your version of the game?
slim kelp
Slighty curious, how long does the eris buff lasts in your version of the game?
The what
slim kelp
Eris aspect, rail
I haven't even unlocked eris , I only have hestia and lucifer
My version is 1.3smt smth
mint coral
Actually lost then
Cuz the vid you posted it seems you are with ore change chiron
More dmg, less arrows
Do you have dad's keepsake
slim kelp
Yes
mint coral
Does it have 2 bars or 4
slim kelp
Does it have 2 bars or 4
Dmed ya
royal widget
but the attack automagically connects
really lol
white path
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1144722785898344570/i...
Pain is how this image is stretched so wide I can't read it
stone rune
looks better
royal widget
yeah
meager shuttle
Nice
stone rune
anyone else getting new message thing without any actual new messages
hardy spear
i think that happens when someone sends a message then deletes it
stone rune
yea but it’s been happening a lot lately
signal bronze
yea but it’s been happening a lot lately
does it happen while u watch yt?
stone rune
?
signal aspen
when did the bouldy get added to hades monthly challenge role?
twin thistle
no because we dont get monthly challenges anymore
stone rune
wonder why 
analog elbow
Guys, did you ever notice all the non-combat SFX in the game? I'm just discovering them and i'm kinda blown away. I've balanced my sound based on combat because it's just so loud by comparisson.
In the clips, the big coin jingles and Athena's attack adds a little OooOoo noise at the end of the attack. Titan's Blood has a gross curdling noise and a reverential voice playing. I'm kinda blown away atm and wanna go through the game again to discover them all. https://imgur.com/a/Sqkg0qU
You'd have to follow the link and click the volume button in the clip to see what I'm talking about.
royal widget
Reloading Lucifer makes a gasp sound
Equipping a god's keepsake/picking up their boon plays a sound:
zeus: thunder
Poseidon:splash
ares: scream
Dionysus: pop! laugh
demeter: breeze
Aphrodite: pulse that also appears when casting crush shot
Artemis/athena i don't remember
analog elbow
I find that all attack related sounds are tuned waaay over other SFX
analog elbow
But there are many that aren't, or that were not to me, so I'm gonna go discover what else I hadn't heard before
mint coral
the T.blood one was a surprise one
on top of being pretty low is rare you just leave it hanging enough to hear it
bright sentinel
Kinda cool
Maybe they shoulda balanced audio better lol
analog elbow
Equipping a god's keepsake/picking up their boon plays a sound:
zeus: thunder
Po...
Artemis' does a little maracas shake, and it sounds like some leaves being blown, it's very slight and I think this is just for the special. I think the cast has it's own sound for instance. https://imgur.com/a/0h1ZqXt
analog elbow
Kinda cool
Maybe they shoulda balanced audio better lol
Separete sliders for combat / non-combat sfx would be neat
royal widget
So what
stone rune
yes
shackle or bust
why would u not be asking for tdash and zeus then
tdash start is better
speed or heat
heat just start zeus
but zeus start sucks for speed
latent moon
How do you die
stone rune
yes
js1 em2 cp1 pl at 40
just get long knuckle on fists
and don’t be always next to asterius
you’ll be fine
latent moon
Wait are you not taking long knuckle
Also yeah em2 kinda funky
Is this 40
Running hell mode at 40 seems unnecessary
Just take long knuckle and take the standard 40 pact
mint coral
saw erebus gate on c1 and was happy for another gold gate
arte was on the gate
latent moon
32 pact with hl5 fo2 and ap1/dc2
I think hs too but idr
Drop ap1 for dc2 or something
Cf1 vs js1 is personal preference
If you don't want hs take more cf or js
mint coral
I have learned that common flood shot lvl 1 one barely doesn't kill armored witches
I hate this
latent moon
Speed pact moment
royal widget
em2
analog elbow
For your hearing pleasure, Cerberus breathing 
https://imgur.com/a/uL5j6WC
mint coral
5 god pool gaming
latent moon
Just don't die
upper wolf
I know dunking on new players misconceptions is a low-hanging fruit, but that reminds me of that insane take that aphro was a bad god because weak is useless since your goal is to not get hit at all, thus the reduced damage doing nothing
Also something about athena being bad for the same reason
royal widget
i remember thinking ares was the best as a new player
and that weak was useless lol
drowsy linden
i remember thinking ares was the best as a new player
me loving dio cast
and loving bow special(no aspects)+thunder flourish
royal widget
"bow isn't useless, just get up close and special!"
mint coral
I used to think that olympian favor was better bc of fated keys
royal widget
LOL
drowsy linden
i used to think the rare boon talent was better than foresight
royal widget
i thought high conf was only good on arthur
at least my mirror was generally optimized
mint coral
I do think that calling chiron a noob trap is a bit ehhh
is easy to understand + works for early clears
I think a noob trap is how meh the casts feel most of the time (at least until you max boiling blood for some)
latent moon
I used to think that olympian favor was better bc of fated keys
rta time save let's go
brisk trail
Trying 16 heat for the first time, Chiron please carry me-
twin thistle
lmao
meager shuttle
Trying 16 heat for the first time, Chiron please carry me-
Bless
grave sage
Finally finished all the prophecy, probably never have to use trippy shot ever again
slim kelp
Dionysis cast based
white path
What's the chance for thanatos to appear at all in a run?
Because recently it feels like only 20%
And I need to see him again to get the last companion:(
I forgot to check his spot in the house too often
latent moon
I might be pulling the number out of my ass but I think I heard it was about 50%
The 50% might be a Tartarus survival room but idr
gray apex
Sounds like you pulled it out your ass
latent moon
Yeah sounds about right
raw herald
In IGT speedruns: 1%
In RTA speedruns; 96%
In chamber 34 on pb pace: -10%
bright sentinel
halfway through asphodel and i still only have 3 pommable boons
almost every room was poms and other miscellaneous things
and i actually strongly prefer it so far because i got exactly what i wanted to pom and then a bunch of buffs and triple bomb
stiff obsidian
how does sturdy and weak stack
raw herald
Damage reduction is multiplicative
stiff obsidian
sadge
topaz ledge
What is the deal with 32 heat?
mint coral
What is the deal with 32 heat?
Last skelly statue
topaz ledge
Oh thank you. I never quite understood why people talked so much about it. I suppose this is also the last reward avaliable (aside from the regular blood and ambrosia) for high heat runs?
stray shard
Me who barely beat 4 heat
plush ferry
pretty much yeah 32 is the highest heat the game asks you to do
mint coral
Oh thank you. I never quite understood why people talked so much about it. I sup...
Bounty rewards cap at 20 but yeah
Last reward
mint coral
Wait is there an ending for unlocking everything
Nope, ending is 10 escapes then epilogue is maxing relationships with gods
stray shard
Oh ok cool
topaz ledge
Bounty rewards cap at 20 but yeah
So I can't farm thousands of titan blood? Oh, well
mint coral
Yeah iirc even with all bounties/prophecies/what not you still need to trade for some blood with the broker to max everything
plush ferry
i found i had an overabundance of ambrosia at most points in the game
but then I only really use Meg's companion
stray shard
I tried to get titan blood with varatha to unlock secret aegis aspect and then i got used to varatha and never used aegis again 😭
plush ferry
my favorites are eris and hestia but i like all the aspects (except achilles)
stray shard
I did it's nice
mint coral
I mainly like the meta aspects that are not sword and fists
And sometimes dumb fun with zag fists plume
plush ferry
idk what the meta is per se tbh
stray shard
Idk any strats lol
mint coral
My fav used to be athena aspect
What's athena aspect
plush ferry
Idk any strats lol
step 1: equip athena dash
step 2: ???
step 3: profit
stray shard
Woops i think i meant zeus
mint coral
idk what the meta is per se tbh
For speed is like: Nem sword, achilles, hera (rama works but is hard), beowulf, demeter fists, eris and hestia
For high heats add zeus shield, lucifer
stray shard
step 1: equip athena dash
step 2: ???
step 3: profit
Oh ok yeah that's the only one i know
mint coral
And hera is gone
mint coral
Woops i think i meant zeus
Zeus shield is fun
mint coral
something something beowulf fastest weapon
stray shard
...what?
mint coral
When playing beowulf all your casts turn into flares
stray shard
Yes
mint coral
If you pick up mirage shot with any flare the 2nd cast does 100% dmg
Instead of the supposed 30%
stray shard
Oh that's cool
mint coral
You can guess why is it so fast now
stray shard
Yeah lol
mint coral
If you pick up mirage shot with any flare the 2nd cast does 100% dmg
(also works with hera if you use dio's cast)
And speaking of trippy flare on beowulf
It gets double value from poms
Without reason
mint coral
Dionysus 
mint coral
Not the first time I've seen that reaction lmao
stray shard
Are copypastas allowed?
mint coral
Wouldn't push it
stray shard
:(
mint coral
Also profanity filter so check which one
mint coral
Wouldn't push it
(we do copy paste guides tho)
stray shard
Yeah i wasn't gonna paste a guide 🙏
Evergreen acorn best keepsake can't convince me otherwise
plush ferry
mom pom my beloved
meager basalt
The world would be so much better if you could reroll hammers
grizzled current
Gotta learn to basically change your entire playstyle based on meh/bad hammers
Or just take the hammer and never use it loooool
meager basalt
I just had a run where I had to choose between CSlash, HSlash, and Splitter
Took CSlash bc at least it's fun and then died to Butterfly Ball
upper wolf
I can't see which one is hslash
meager basalt
Hoarding Slash
upper wolf
The money one ? Hoarding or something?
Oh yeah
If I was serious I'd have taken this one and not used it
If I was balling I'd have taken world splitter because big numbers funnie
meager basalt
If I was serious I'd have taken this one and not used it
Yeah in hindsight I should have done that
latent moon
Are copypastas allowed?
kinda sorta yeah but also don't go overboard on them lmao
besides the guide copypastas (pretty sure we only use one) the only one that gets used is the divine dash copypasta
as seen here lol
stone rune
are you doing heat
why are you not taking ddash
ddash is better you have no iframes
for heat?
should just be ddash
latent moon
well like considering how you're always dash striking, a deflect is nice
latent moon
i wouldn't prioritize tdash, just more zeus is more important lmao
tdash damage is nice and i'd pick it up if i see it but i wouldn't force it
stone rune
Nyaanyaa's Guan Yu Guide
Generally on Guan Yu, the hammers you want are Charged Skewer > Quick Spin > Massive Spin > Serrated Point. Breaching Skewer and Serpent Wing also alright. And Breaching Skewer becomes top priority for the second hammer if you have Charged Skewer already.
Charged Skewer shortens the startup of Guan Yu's Special a whole lot and lets you hold your Special for up to triple base damage.
You'll want Heartbreak Flourish or Deadly Flourish ideally, anyway, for the high % damage. Guan Yu's Special has 45 base damage, piercing, and wide AOE. Anything with % damage is good on Attack except Tempest Strike is unorthodox and requires fully leaning into Poseidon to make it work (though it can be effective and fun).
For optimal DPS, you're either doing Special > Dash-Strike x2 or Cast > Dash-Strike x2 with Guan Yu. Cast for single-target, Special when you can hit multiple enemies with it (or if you have Charged Skewer). And just your Special and reposition if it's enough to one-shot things (which it often is if you have Charged Skewer).
There are two ways to charge the spin: from a normal Attack and from a Dash-Attack. 99% of the time you want to charge from a Dash-Attack. And there are three ways to release a spin: let go of Attack, Dash, and Dash-Attack. Letting go of Attack is the safest method and how you want to release it most of the time. It's also usually the best method for keeping the spin on your enemy. Releasing with a dash gives you i-frames and a lot more range for the spin, but it travels faster. You mainly use that to quickly escape a situation or to throw your spin at very far-away enemies. And releasing with a Dash-Attack gives you the extra range that a Dash gives but without any of the i-frames, but the benefit is that you can immediately charge a new spin. This method is the most aggressive and best for DPS, and it can keep you within the Deflect spin if you happen to use Divine Strike.
stone rune
stone rune
Nyaanyaa's 40 Heat Guide
A standard 40 Heat pact has:
HL5 LC4 EM3 BP2 MM UC FO2 HS TD3
That adds up to 37. In Hell mode, you'll also naturally get JS1 CP1 PL, so you're already done with a 40 Heat pact.
In normal mode, the last three Heat depending on aspect, build, and personal preference are typically some combination of CF1-2, JS1, DC2, and AP1.
So Rama, for example, would just take DC2 because that's pretty free and then one Heat from either CF1 or JS1 depending on what you like. While Hestia would definitely avoid DC2 and instead pick some combination of CF1-2 JS1 and AP1 depending on which you find less bothersome or more fun.
latent moon
for heat yeah
stone rune
for heat
stone rune
Nyaanyaa's Demeter Aspect Guide
Heartbreak Flourish > Lightning Strike + Zeus' Aid > Smoldering Air. Also look for Splitting Bolt, Static Discharge, and Billowing Strength. Divine Dash, Tidal Dash, Hunter Dash, Blade Dash are all good. Thunder Dash is great only if you have Splitting Bolt. Put all poms into #1 Zeus' Aid and #2 Static Discharge. I like Pom Blossom from Elysium on because everything in the build benefits so much from poms. Support Fire is always great, too.
Heartbreak Flourish > Zeus' Aid + Curse of Agony > Smoldering Air + Curse of Longing. Very similar to the above.
Curse of Agony > Divine Flourish + Divine Dash > Merciful End. Also look for Impending Doom and Blinding Flash. Poms all go into Curse of Agony and Impending Doom. God's Legacy and God's Pride can both work.
Divine Strike + Deadly Flourish > Deadly Reversal. Hunter Dash or Divine Dash. Also look for Support Fire, Hunter's Mark, Blinding Flash, and Brilliant Riposte. Poms all go into Deadly Flourish + Hunter's Mark. Dionysus' Aid + Splitting Headache and Calculated Risk is also very nice for this, alternatively Athena's Aid or Artemis' Aid can do some work.
Lightning Strike > Deadly Flourish > Storm Lightning + Static Discharge > Splitting Bolt. Also look for Support Fire. Goes well with Passion Dash + Heart Rend, which can also unlock Smoldering Air. More Dash-Upper damage than the first build, but you lose a lot of the synergy that Lady Aphrodite offers.
Hammer priority is Breaching Cross > Kinetic Launcher + Explosive Upper > Rolling Knuckle + Long Knuckle > anything else.
latent moon
jazz you can stop sending them
stone rune
Nyaanyaa's Crystal Clarity Guide
(1) Start Stygian Soul and Crystal Beam. (Achilles Aspect is best for the +150% Cast damage, but any aspect can work.)
(2) First Duo Boon you open is Crystal Clarity (with Lady Artemis). Can check codex for requirements. Make sure you don't open up any other Duo Boons for those two gods until you have Crystal Clarity. If you pick up a boon from another god and you're not sure if any of them open up a Duo Boon with Lady Artemis or Lady Demeter, check your codex.
(3) At the same time as you're looking for Crystal Beam, look for Glacial Glare from Lady Demeter. If she's not offering Glacial Glare, DO NOT pick up Lady Demeter's Attack, Special, Dash, Call, or Snow Burst until you have Glacial Glare (because they will pollute her boon pool which Chill tier 2 boons that make it a lot harder to get Glacial Glare). Take her other boons instead until you have Glacial Glare.
(4) Take all Chaos Gates you find and look for Grasp (top priority) and Shot (2nd priority). Reroll if you have to. Get at least one Grasp.
(5) Check every Well of Charon for Prometheus Stones and Braids of Atlas (always in the bottom row). Nail of Talos is also nice because it applies to your Cast as well. Use Bone Hourglass in Elysium and Styx.
(6) Once you have Crystal Clarity, it's fine to open other Duo Boons if they look helpful.
(7) Once you have Glacial Glare, it's fine to pick up one of her boons you weren't supposed to pick up earlier, and then after that look for Killing Freeze (1st) and Arctic Blast (2nd) from her.
That variant has the highest potential, but it relies heavily on finding more bloodstones (Grasp from Master Chaos or Prometheus Stones from Wells of Charon).
You can also start with Infernal Soul instead for better consistency at the bottom end, but the top end of the build will be much lower. Glacial Glare is also a much lower priority if you're using Infernal Soul.
oh ok
latent moon
you're getting to the point where these are more obscure lmao
stone rune
people take earring in aspho
latent moon
hold on lemme find some screenshots
stone rune
sometimes
spearpoint is so fake dude
to save time for dad
ok bubbo lets see you with the timer at 60 heat
latent moon
stone rune
stone rune
latent moon
it's probably not as good going into dad at 64 heat but the extra damage will cut off time
oh no
no one wants to reset for +dashes hermes
latent moon
not endless witches
side hustle good
offsets cf lmao
why are you spending 3 rerolls on hermes lmao
you never double roll in heat unless you need to save your run
uc fodder
you dont need good hermes
just take whatever
stone rune
you want more
latent moon
you're literally in tart lmao just get some more uc fodder
wdym
zeus, aphrodite core, dio/zeus call for smair
or any call besides ares for iframes really
athena is always welcome
i mean yeah
tdash if you can get it
ddash safer but free tdash
take the free lmao
-hp you're prob gonna get smacked
yeah
dem isnt too helpful other than rare crop if you have jolted already
rav will isn't bad but free room is right there
i mean her special is whatever any % is fine
drowsy linden
authority or persuasion
raw herald
Lol
stiff obsidian
how much and how long does explosive fire slow
stone rune
if u want to
stone rune
how much and how long does explosive fire slow
2x time to draw
oh
presumably as long as any other stun
it’s all the same right
stiff obsidian
does it slow bosses
stiff obsidian
poop
stone rune
is athena in ur pool
is this the keepsake athena
probably still athena
u don’t need hermes
and possibility of another in midboss is good
yea
u popped sd right
before picking up
the one that gives u more hp
i guess
free touch of styx
is call on screen
yes
call good enough
on fists
since jolted less value
if u want
don’t u keep dying at lernie
id take flood shot and save the slot for ddash
but tdash is fine if u want
bp is pog
yea
no
c22 is last combat
23 is shop
do u have hammer
well then lernie will be fine
if u want to take tdash take it
yea hydro sucks ass
for fist
sounds like cash
kill them all
side hustle
do u have no fodder
swine is fine i guess
swims
swine
swind
sprint
sturdy good
raw herald
Yes
stiff obsidian
if i want to get more darkness do i flip darkforesight
stone rune
if i want to get more darkness do i flip darkforesight
no
stiff obsidian
i wast poseigden right
stone rune
big darkness is from stacking buffs
and that goes with dad amount of darkness
can get a grand pet if you get enough eclipse/oceans bounty etc
2nd tunnel?
what’s in shop
how much money
jolted i guess
well
what’s ur time allowance
u could do bit
both
yea
gg
veng
upper wolf
i mixed up the m of Meg with the p of p1 and p2
meager shuttle
Lol
stiff obsidian
the darkness room rewards suck ass
wait so poseiddeen is useless
stone rune
wait so poseiddeen is useless
no
royal widget
good for farming
stiff obsidian
but it nonly buffs room rewards
and those are low
and you barely see them anawy
stone rune
no it doesn’t
mint coral
It also buffs the ones from bosses
stone rune
it buffs boss drops
stiff obsidian
do u have to have keepsake equipped for huge catch
ionic hemlock
No?
mint coral
do u have to have keepsake equipped for huge catch
It works as one of the requisites but nah
Can use ocean bounty + sunken treasure iirc
mint coral
Idk just check the codex
stiff obsidian
yea i did but since sunken treasure doesnt appear on the menu thing
i thought it doesnt count
brisk trail
me to hades after I beat him every run
stone rune
ok bubbo
latent moon
what heat is this for lmao
you're playing modded aren't you why would you start cluster
latent moon
isn't it like barely better odds
and like yeah it's better but rocket is just better lmao
Cluster Rockets Probabilities
Here are all of the independent scenarios. (rounding to save time)
There are 12 hammers. Chance of seeing any one hammer is 3 / 12 = 25%
Chance of seeing rocket AND cluster is 3/12 * 2/11= 4.5%
Chance of seeing ONLY ONE of those hammers =25 - 4.5 = 20.5%
Rocket first, no cluster shown ( 20.5%) * cluster 2nd (30%) =6.15%
Cluster first, no rocket shown (20.5%) * rocket 2nd (33%) = 6.77%
show both, take cluster = Rocket and cluster shown (4.5%) * rocket 2nd (33%) = 1.5%
show both, take rocket = Rocket and cluster shown (4.5%) * cluster 2nd (30%) = 1.35%
Cluster rocket odds (take cluster if both) = 6.15 + 6.77 + 1.5 = 14.42%
Cluster rocket odds (take rocket if both) = 6.15 + 6.77 + 1.35 = 14.27%
A 0.25% chance global difference, so pretty low. In practice when you're shown both it's a 3% difference so definitely take cluster first unless you want to high roll.
BOTTOM LINE: You should be seeing cluster rockets 1 in every 7 runs where you get 2 hammers, on average (14.4%). If you reset until your first hammer is rocket or cluster, then you should see it a little less than 1 in every 3 runs (31.5%)
thanks cgull
hardy spear
whats with the uprising of bouldy in all your nicknames
gray apex
whats with the uprising of bouldy in all your nicknames
Monthly challenge role for some reason
hardy spear
probably because it hasnt been used in ages
royal widget
rip nyanya
main delta
hello, I have a problem I would like to recover my backups from my steam account "a" to put them on the steam account "b". unfortunately I can't find any solutions. can you help me ?
PS: the steam accounts are on the same computer 🙂
fr : bonjour, j'ai un problème je souhaiterais récupérer mes sauvegardes de mon compte steam "a" pour les mettre sur le compte steam "b". malheureusement je ne trouve aucune solution. pouvez-vous m'aider ?
PS : les comptes steam sont sur le même ordinateur 🙂
Do you have a solution ?
latent moon
somewhere in the game files there should be something like Profile1.sav
should be 1-4, depending whatever save file you want to copy over
actually with the steam accounts being on the same computer idk how that works in the game files lmao
main delta
that's the problem no one knows but thank you anyway I'll try your solutions 🙂
latent moon
if the steam profiles have different folders you can just copy over the .sav file
just change the number to whatever save file you want to replace
so if the save file you want to copy from account "a" is Profile1.sav and you don't want to replace your first profile on account "b", then rename it to Profile2.sav after you paste it over
stone rune
hello, I have a problem I would like to recover my backups from my steam account...
are both steam accounts on the same computer
stone rune
oh
i cant read
anyways
it should be shared
unless u mean like cloud save or something
i have different kinds of copies of hades and saves transfer
since they all save to the same place
main delta
sorry i'm french and i use google translations to talk to you can you give me a solution it's quite messy for me sorry
stone rune
sorry i'm french and i use google translations to talk to you can you give me a ...
when you open hades on profile b, does it have separate saves from profile a?
main delta
the backups are different, to tell the truth, I have never started a game in the "b" profile
stone rune
cloud backups? or game backups
main delta
cloud backups
latent moon
rocket works fine
it's still a pretty large aoe
if anything it's better because it's faster
well aim better idk
rocket is still better than cluster in general
faster and more consistent damage
that's fine
probably
7.5 min for ely seems fine
i mean sure
doable
take hazard
you kinda need it for heat time
dont you run ap2 on 50 to avoid em4
actually can you even do that because you can't take dc lmao
cp2 ap2 
oh yeah ri
em3 is 6 heat
oh yeah
mint coral
35
latent moon
i mean if you're good at em4 just take it
all shields can take it
hestia
bows probably
ap2 is not a good pick lmao
stone rune
yes
stiff obsidian
delta chamber has dashstrike iframes right
latent moon
besides castpects?
i mean they all can technically benefit if you get good jerkies and ichors
it's just that there's less stuff in the wells for those than castpects
hardy spear
i pretty much always take hourglass into ely
latent moon
i mean yeah there isn't much of a downside to taking it into ely (for low heat) unless you get 3 sacked lmao
hardy spear
win the coin flip
latent moon
true
plush ferry
can rama's shared suffering crit separately from the attack?
royal widget
does it happen separately
stone rune
yea
royal widget
ok
rose dagger
Do u need to equip twin fist to fight minotaur to unlock || aspect of gilagamesh||?
whole comet
no
rose dagger
So basically i just keep fighting him with any weapons in solo battles to unlock?
whole comet
there's other requirments
rose dagger
I have the other requirement already
whole comet
||if u have the 5 titan bloods invested, then just keep fighting him the solo battle and it will eventually unlock||
whole comet
is he still talking to u with back and forth dialogues?
like he talks, Zag replies back
wary iron
You have to meet him once with the fists equipped
rose dagger
Yes,zag reply back
ionic hemlock
If you have all the requirements it’s essentially RNG that decides when you get it
rose dagger
You have to meet him once with the fists equipped
Oh no wonder
wary iron
Oh no wonder
One time at whatever run you want, he makes a remark about them and then you just have to keep talking to him
whole comet
You have to meet him once with the fists equipped
oh right, yeah i forgot about that
after that, any weapon is fine
rose dagger
Thx guys
abstract torrent
just beat EM4 hades for the first time
also the first time I tried
I turned off everything else Heat-wise except tight deadline
used my favorite build
serrated point with artemis attack and artemis dash attack
signal bronze
how do ik if a fish is rare
abstract torrent
also got 2 chaos dash attack boons
signal bronze
i dont wanna check the wiki
does it give u a special animation anything like that?
abstract torrent
dont think so no
upper wolf
It's worth more at the chef
abstract torrent
yeah
upper wolf
I think maybe the codex tells you ?
abstract torrent
that is also very possible
signal bronze
i will just check the wiki
abstract torrent
tho as a general rule, the closer to the surface the more valuable a fish is
signal bronze
its just a fish anyways
abstract torrent
you probably knew that already
upper wolf
In other news, I just learned you can just hold down the button to fill the mirror. Blood and darkness
abstract torrent
I've only gotten a few surface fishes in total
and a few in styx
when it comes to the real good fishes
signal bronze
ive caught all except legendaries
i thougt its random
turns out its by timing ig
The sooner the Interact button is pressed, the higher rarity the fish will be. The time window of fishing is:
-Less than 0.34 second: Perfect catch. 50/50 chance to catch a Rare or Legendary fish.
-0.34 second to 0.68 second: Catch. 50/50 chance to catch a Common or Rare fish.
-After 0.68 second: fail with a "Too Late" message.
abstract torrent
does clean kill make crits do +230% damage or +260% damage?
like is it +30% of the already +200% or just +30 percent units
raw herald
+230%
abstract torrent
oh ok
and in general are % damage boosts stacking multiplicatively or additively with each other? like if I have artemis attack boon and chaos attack boons?
raw herald
Additive
abstract torrent
makes sense
raw herald
Some hammers increase base damage by a % so they’re multiplicative
But some don’t even tell you
It’s weird
abstract torrent
lol
I sent a screenshot in victory boasting
my dash attack does +353% damage with a 15% chance to crit and do +230% more damage
abstract torrent
oh right no
and the +25% from high health
+25 from family favorite i think
and when you're constantly dashing backstabbing isnt hard
+50% shadow presence
well thats a nice 100% more damage from the mirror I didnt account for
and just to calculate the average damage boost of those
I think thats just calculated with 0.15 x 3.3 which is 0.495, aka +49.5%, and 50 is a much nicer number
so an average my dash attack did +403% damage
and I had Serrated Point
so in comparison to a normal dash attack with no % boosts and without Serrated Point, a single one of my dash attacks did +1209% more damage
that seems too much
is my math wrong
eh the base dash attack damage of spear on skelly is 25
plush ferry
no, crits just do a lot of damage
abstract torrent
25 x 12 is 300
300 per dash attack on average doesnt seem that crazy
its damn good but not insane
or like unbelievable
oh wait strong drink
I literally dont remember when I got strong drink lmao
I dont know if extending jab can apply to the dash attack
if the range of it is long enough
a single reddit comment says yes lmao
upper wolf
most damage boosts are additive, only exceptions that come to my mind are base damage bossts (from hammers and certain aspects) and crits
obsidian linden
hello
obsidian linden
another how to start my run
strong ridge
me when i do it
obsidian linden
dark thirst on rifle
strong ridge
zeus start or dio
obsidian linden
hammer first room
obsidian linden
Lucifer give me triple bomb, greater inferno and Triple beam
strong ridge
tripl bom
obsidian linden
normal give me triple bomb, Spread Fire abd Hazard bomb
strong ridge
normal give me triple bomb, Spread Fire abd Hazard bomb
if u have 2 take triple might as well play luci
obsidian linden
ok, that was the second question
keen pike
are monthly challenges coming back? i keep seeing the role for them but i dont know what they are or how to do them
keen rock
so, in faq is said the dates of early access and full release, and what about the days?
plush ferry
when hades 2 comes to early access the first thing im gonna do is put in a request for an "end run" button that just takes me back to the infernal arms room
keen rock
🌞
stone rune
when hades 2 comes to early access the first thing im gonna do is put in a reque...
they already have that
obsidian linden
...
plush ferry
they already have that
takes me thru the main menu though it's annoying :<
obsidian linden
the game just won't let me have my epic Zeus attack
plush ferry
muh 20 seconds
limber ether
Epic jolted >> epic attack
obsidian linden
you mean the double damage?!?
raw herald
it’s 15 vs 10
obsidian linden
wait, seriously?
raw herald
yep
obsidian linden
x2
raw herald
heroic is 20
obsidian linden
oh, ok
stone rune
and once you add poms in it’s not double
plush ferry
isn't epic 14?
stone rune
although heroic attack is pog
raw herald
and even then that’s still not double damage because it’s adding onto the attack
mint coral
Epic is 14 yeah
stone rune
bot been down
raw herald
isn't epic 14?
no, common lvl2 is
stone rune
and also it’s lightning strike
obsidian linden
ok, common
stone rune
wait rlly
stone rune
ok, common
10/13/15/20
plush ferry
I can in fact confirm that epic lucifer is 15, as I just got it :V
stone rune
it matters a more than none amount
raw herald
rarity doesn’t matter
obsidian linden
for the special, I had Artemis
raw herald
just get the boons
stone rune
not by much tho
keen pike
thats tea
plush ferry
hm, got a chaos room in the opening area, should I go for attack +40% or boon rarity +20%? for lucifer w/ lightning strike
raw herald
boon rarity probs
mint coral
What's the third
plush ferry
+1 cast, 50% more foes. other two are just take damage from cast
obsidian linden
my seed was forced Zeus, Artemis, Athena and Dionysius
mint coral
Boon rarity and high roll for splitting bolt 🧠
obsidian linden
keepsake Zeus
obsidian linden
I miss a ref
plush ferry
i choose to believe that the boon rarity pick is why all 3 of the following boon choices were epics even tho it didn't activate yet
mint coral
Some of the old names for calls were also funny
They had really long names compared to now
plush ferry
I think lucy is my new favorite aspect
mint coral
barbs of the master huntress > Artemis aid
Charm of the lovely goddess
Grey-eyed vigilance
obsidian linden
nasty was obvious patch tho
if they have made as much as effort to remove anything for the... family really family bloodline, obviously nasty was getting axe
plush ferry
common strong drank or rare dionysus aid?
stone rune
on what wep
plush ferry
lucy
sour fog
in which biome
stone rune
do u have any other hangover sources
plush ferry
nope
plush ferry
lucy bombs are so funny
obsidian linden
thank you
mint coral
Play with it enough and then fo0 will ruin you
If playing luci is also a benefit anyways
Faster jolted procs
plush ferry
speaking of jolted I have not gotten a single zeus boon since the one I forced with the signet
hey look, another dionysus
plush ferry
i have zeus, poseidon, athena, dio
i saw zeus in chamber 1 and then never again
weeeh died to greatshields
my most hated nemesis
obsidian linden
time for the second hammer
look mid...
piercing fire
eternal chamber
targeting system
plush ferry
greater inferno or triple bomb?
mint coral
Always triple
mint coral
You can be offered rod from zeus or artemis later
obsidian linden
with 4 blood cast
obsidian linden
on top of slicing shot
mint coral
obsidian linden
Storm lightning?
this thing is really useful?
mint coral
Nah
Just opens splitting lmao
If you had double strike I'd probably consider rod instead
obsidian linden
I always pray for Double Strike
so...
I kinda lost 2 lives to Asterius
sometime that game ruin your patience
New run, with the bow this time
first room hammer
so, flurry shot is the best scenario in a lot of situation
which god I should slap on that?
mint coral
What bow
obsidian linden
Zagreus
mint coral
I like aphro on it
obsidian linden
(I'm not into casting shot)
mint coral
Also what were the other hammers
obsidian linden
I forgot the second but the first was Flurry
mint coral
obsidian linden
I love Flurry but everyone keep telling me that suck
mint coral
Nah
obsidian linden
I forgot the second but the first was Flurry
percing volley
obsidian linden
I find that ludacrisly broken
mint coral
But if nothing then yeah flurry gaming
mint coral
But if twin/triple were i the screen I'd take that first
And then flurry is a good second hammer
obsidian linden
my best Hades by far was Flurry Aphrodite with insane damage
mint coral
The best strategy is to take a trash 2nd hammer and then anvil into flurry + point blank 🧠
stone rune
it is
obsidian linden
like, really boosted critical chance
isn't better than Aphrodite?
ok... euhhh....
upper wolf
Aphro has a bigger damage boost
obsidian linden
I forgot the second but the first was Flurry
from that point on, I was talking about Charged Volley
upper wolf
So your crits are more rare, but much juicier
obsidian linden
big long brain fart
upper wolf
Heart rend do be funny
mint coral
Artemis atk also works but slighty more annoying to set heart rend
Just get hunter's mark + some chaos boons
upper wolf
I love the blessed runs where I get heart rend and deadly reversal
stone rune
hunters mark is literally the entire build on zagbow
obsidian linden
so, Charged Volley is that bad?
stone rune
cvolley sucks
stone rune
no real reason to take it
obsidian linden
T_T
upper wolf
Yeah charges is just a meme
stone rune
i hit 700 hours
mint coral
Nice
latent moon
Homies gaming
drowsy linden
got splitting bolt on an exagryph run
lernie phase changed in 2 clips, i dont even have a hammer yet(dont ask why)
mint coral
Why don't you have a hammer
drowsy linden
bouldy
it was either bouldy(i still need companion) or hammer in tart
ok first elysium is a hammer