h1-discussion

[astral sleet]

how to get that mod?

[agile basin]

read the description of that video

[astral sleet]

I see

thanks

[spring rain]

so how do I befriend hades

[agile basin]

10 wins
gift
???
profit

[spring rain]

https://ibb.co/6y2ZnrM so how do I make patric my friend? I can't give him any nectar

[ionic hemlock]

just talk to some people more and eventually you should be able to I can’t remember exactly how

[sour fog]

you haven't revealed his name yet, you have to check his codex entry

or talk to him while you have keepsake from achilles equipped

[spring rain]

https://ibb.co/0KCDr7L hades? more like easy

https://ibb.co/yFZ3qZK I already saw this dialogue before, idk why its playing again

https://ibb.co/vP6ds5N also, charged shot been carrying me

[autumn rose]

currently have Slicing Shot, Blade Dash and Ares' Aid with:
Quick Favor
Flurry Cast
Black Metal
Engulfing Vortex
Hunting Blades
Vicous Cycle

It's beautiful

[spring rain]

Patroclus didn't show in my run and now I'm with this useless achilles item for no reason

:)

[autumn rose]

Wha?

[untold crown]

this is why we need endless mode

[hybrid hedge]

i play hades on switch, is getting it on pc worth it

[stone rune]

yea

[hybrid hedge]

is it the kinda game that better on controller? or is it good on MnK

[hybrid hedge]

endless would be so cool

[latent moon]

if you're interested in trying out different mods then yeah it's worth it

[latent moon]

personal preference, some prefer kbm some prefer controller

[hybrid hedge]

what kinda mods are there?

[latent moon]

just whatever you like

[latent moon]

OlympusExtra adds in 2 new gods, i heard they're going to add in a 3rd soon but i'm not entirely sure

[hybrid hedge]

okay, i usually prefer mnk. but it feels amazing on joycons lmao

[hybrid hedge]

which 2?

[latent moon]

there's also the speedrun modpack, which is neat

apollo and hestia

[hybrid hedge]

Sick

are there like new weapon mods?

[latent moon]

i tried joycons on the switch after like 400+ hours on kbm and it felt pretty good lmao just prefernce

[latent moon]

oh yeah there's a few

there's one that combines all aspects of a weapon into 1

[hybrid hedge]

And data transfers right? cause if im going on a road trip ill want the switch, but at home pc

[latent moon]

another gives you old chaos shield back, which makes it better

[hybrid hedge]

old chaos sheild?

[latent moon]

yeah i'm pretty sure data can transfer

idk how it works but i heard it's possible

[latent moon]

early access chaos shield

shoots in a star pattern rather than in front

might be some other smaller things but idrk, i didn't play early access

the star pattern made chaos good from what i heard, now it's kinda bad lmao

"bad" in the sense that the gimmick sucks, it's still good because it's a shield

[hybrid hedge]

cool

after beating the game with every weapons best aspect. sheild definitely feels the best

not cause of dps, but being able to throwout aspect of zues then just block all damage

[autumn rose]

chain shot or twin shot for aspect of rama

[latent moon]

twin shot

easily

[stone rune]

twin is best rama hammer

[latent moon]

yeah that's kinda what makes chaos bad lol, you can throw it out but you can't block or attack

[stone rune]

triple also is good but is generally less consistent

[hybrid hedge]

you can block with Zeus aspect out

[hybrid hedge]

is rama the hidden?

[latent moon]

yeah ik, i'm saying chaos sucks because you can't block while you throw the special

[latent moon]

yes

[hybrid hedge]

ohhh yeah

[untold crown]

yeah twin shot is the best hammer by far

[hybrid hedge]

whats the best special boon for aspect of zeus?

[hybrid hedge]

hazard bomb :]

[untold crown]

I meant on the bow

[main talon]

I find dio good

[hybrid hedge]

hazard bomb best hammer

[latent moon]

zeus easily

[hybrid hedge]

i was so confused for a second then i realized you meant dionysus

[latent moon]

aspect dependent

[untold crown]

and as far as the rail goes I obviously want clockets or triple bomb if it's lucifer

[latent moon]

zag/rama hammers are mostly identical tho

[hybrid hedge]

what about like merciful end with athena dash or attack?

[untold crown]

but hazard bomb is the next best

[hybrid hedge]

hazard bomb silly tho

hazard bomb + artemis

best build

[latent moon]

i mean yeah i guess that's technically stronger lmao

but zeus^2 is generally more consistent

[hybrid hedge]

zeus squared?

[latent moon]

zeus special on zeus shield

[hybrid hedge]

thats silly

[latent moon]

it's good damage lmao

used to clear 64 heat

[hybrid hedge]

I meant name was silly

[latent moon]

oh lmao

[untold crown]

crit noise, big number damage is dopamine. it's true

[hybrid hedge]

or aphro cast with hera bow

also big damage

[latent moon]

beo has bigger number

funny mirage bug

[hybrid hedge]

what weapon is beo and what it do

[latent moon]

hidden shield

basically hera but the cast explodes whenever you charge

[hybrid hedge]

i like that

[latent moon]

mirage shot is bugged on it so that it does 100% instead of 30%

[hybrid hedge]

i like

[latent moon]

well mirage shot is bugged on all flares, so it extends to trippy flare on hera

[hybrid hedge]

how do i get beo sheild

[latent moon]

pinned in #h1-story-discussion

[hybrid hedge]

explain that, idk what that mean

[latent moon]

beo casts are unique and they're called flares

with normal casts, you throw them and they hit and do their effect or whatever

on beowulf, at the end of your rush the cast explodes around you

they dont shoot out of you, so they're called flares

[hybrid hedge]

aight

so does the bug work on hera aswell then?

[untold crown]

beo has 100% mirage shot damage bug and a bug where trippy does way more damage than advertised when you pom it

[latent moon]

hera gets trippy flare instead of trippy shot because trippy shot you kinda just lob it at enemies, but if you're shooting it out of an arrow it doesn't really make sense so it just explodes on impact

[latent moon]

just trippy flare, so dionysus cast

[hybrid hedge]

so is dio cast better than aphro for hera bow

[latent moon]

nope

dio cast stays on the ground for too long

you have to use stygian soul for the regen cast and get more casts from chaos

a lot less reliable

[hybrid hedge]

aight

[latent moon]

same thing with beowulf, you still want to use poseidon/aphrodite cast instead of dio because of that same reason

[untold crown]

pommed up trippy flare on beo with ice wine and/or scintillating feast is very fun even though it's not as good as flood technically

[latent moon]

oh yeah for sure

if you want to run trippy beo then go for it, just don't expect it to always go to plan

i've had quite a few good trippy beo runs

[spring rain]

guys if you unnequip a item mid run

if can you equip it again later?

[untold crown]

nope

[mint coral]

if you mean the keepsakes, no

[spring rain]

lame

imma just reset the run lmao

[ionic hemlock]

Also, this is specific to than/Hermes keepsakes, but do you keep the buffs you get from them if you unequip it later in the run?

[latent moon]

nope

boosts begone

[ionic hemlock]

N o o o o o o o o

[spring rain]

https://ibb.co/zn1FWNJ guys which one should I get

both sound amazing

[ionic hemlock]

Where are you

[spring rain]

right at the start

[stone rune]

strong drink

[latent moon]

strong drink then

[spring rain]

okay thank yoou

[stone rune]

after party is a nothing boon

[latent moon]

after party is funny for taking -hp per atk/cast/special curses tho lmao

[ionic hemlock]

Oh yeah

[latent moon]

that's the only time i've found it useful

[ionic hemlock]

Never thought of that

[stone rune]

i just take the dd loss

[latent moon]

skill issue

after party is still an unpommable so it's not like horrible

[stone rune]

yeah

[latent moon]

granted it wont give you the free % boost but it's fine

[stone rune]

for some reason positive outlook is pommable though

why

[latent moon]

yeah lmao kinda cringe

[spring rain]

Theseus and Asterious are dating and no one can convince me they're not.

[autumn rose]

They're not

Anywho

[spring rain]

they do be dating

[autumn rose]

If I punishing sweep some boyos for the 150% damage buff if I have a zeus lightning bolt does the bolt itself get that damage buff or is it only the hit with the spear

[mint coral]

only spear

[autumn rose]

😵‍💫

Okay:(

[mint coral]

if it specifies attack/special/cast then only the base effect is buffed

if it says "do X% more dmg" or "enemy takes more dmg" those will buff extra effects like zeus/ares/hangover/etc

[autumn rose]

okii tysm

[stone rune]

the solution is use achilles instead

[autumn rose]

[rough breach]

Alright em4 attempt 2 i have modified my strategy

Hera run with the funny beam and abyssal blood lets see if it works out

[mint coral]

what's abyssal blood doing there

[rough breach]

To assist in my cowardly avoidance

[mint coral]

you are using beams

you can't lodge

[rough breach]

Well good thinf i didnt pick up beam yet

Better idea, aim for anything else but still get chill effect boons

[mint coral]

grab aphro cast and get snow burst from dem

or if you rlly wanna play it safe, athena cast

just don't throw it out of bounds

[hybrid hedge]

i just accidentally got aspect of rama lmfao, how do i use it well?

[mint coral]

tag everything in the room with special, and power shot through a bunch of enemies

[hybrid hedge]

aight

what are the best boons and hammers

[rough breach]

Anything that hits more things iihtg

[mint coral]

twin/triple shot then perfect/point blank

explosive is more of a meme

[hybrid hedge]

aight

[mint coral]

if you pick it say goodbye to power shotting

[rough breach]

I wonder if artemis cast does crits for hera

[hybrid hedge]

what are best boons

[mint coral]

wait a bit

A beefy % attack, Aphro is very good (ideally not common), or you can go for Artemis because crits, any high rarity % attack can do except Poseidon (avoid that one), for the Special you want flat damage, it's not hard to come by, usually not worth forcing tho, Ares Dio Zeus are the main ones, you can go for Demeter and try to get Killing freeze, it can work pretty well, for the Dash there arent many options because most of them are either anti-synergy or just dont do anything, Artemis however is probably the best in slot dash, because Rama relies on dash strikes and getting dash strike damage is just good, Athena is a good one too because deflecting is nice, another important thing for Rama is hammers, ideally you want Triple Shot or Twin Shot for your first hammer, if not offered you can go for Perfect or Point Blank, and for the second hammer you usually want Perfect or Point Blank (assuming Triple or Twin first) but the order can be the other way here, if you get Perfect Shot as first hammer then it's fine too, hammers to avoid are Sniper shot (blocks Twins shot) and also doesnt do anything, and Repulse shot, Explosive is a bit of an odd one, it's nice in some scenarios but hard to play, Chain shot is okay, wont do much in bosses. Rama is difficult and needs practice but it's really good when it comes to heat especially, it's a good idea to watch vods of people who are good at it and try to implement their movement and decision making in your runs

credits to Mike for the guide

[rough breach]

Does switching to a new god charm midrun guarantee them

[stone rune]

yes

[rough breach]

Nice i have aphro cast

[autumn rose]

hey guys
if i sell flood shot

will blizzard shot still work

:)

[mint coral]

no

[autumn rose]

:(

[rough breach]

Borrowable money right before patroclus event you know what that mwans :)

[latent moon]

i mean it does but also it's a 10% crit chance which is pretty abyssmal

yo wont be killing anything and the casts will get stuck unless you one shot with crits

[latent moon]

that's not how that works

the exit of the charon fight doesn't guarantee you the exit you see on the current doors

especially story rooms since those can only appear once in a run

so if you skip it you'll never see it again that run

[rough breach]

Ooh yea

Well i mean my build shredded charon and i only took one hit so

Nice

Got parting shot im so winning this

[ionic hemlock]

I somehow beat heroes 20 heat without using DD

Acorn or tooth for hades

[latent moon]

acorn

[ionic hemlock]

K

Purge epic Artemis aid or sweet nectar

[latent moon]

prob sweet nectar at this point

you're going into styx and prob dont need any more poms

[ionic hemlock]

Sure

Shame the coin is mostly useless

Of course

A +2 Pom in styx

[latent moon]

i mean it's fine lmao

sweet nectar gave you the money to buy it

if you think about it that way

[rough breach]

I swear every time i equip the hourglass i get no wells in any paths

[latent moon]

into styx?

yeah i hardly ever seen wells in styx in general

granted i have guaranteed 2 sack, but even so i've hardly ever many lmao

[ionic hemlock]

I DID IT

Shield is over

[rough breach]

Em4 complete

That was cruel

[hybrid hedge]

is hidden spear good? it feels absolutely horris

[stone rune]

yes

but you need a specific hammer

[hybrid hedge]

what hmer

[stone rune]

charged skewer

[hybrid hedge]

ok!

[hybrid hedge]

best weapon and worst weapon in ghaeme?

[latent moon]

weapons is a bit more broad, it's generally divided into top half and bottom half

in no particular order
top half is bow, rail, and shield
bottom half is fists, sword, and spear

[hybrid hedge]

i htae sword

it feels so bad

[latent moon]

the optimal damage rotation is special -> 2x dash strikes -> repeat

it feels less awkward that way

but still has pretty sad damage output lmao

you either run ME or a crit build on nemesis with double edge

[hybrid hedge]

is nemesis best aspecxt

[latent moon]

for sword yeah

crits are pretty strong in this game and because of the optimal damage rotation, you always have a 30% crit chance on the attack

[hybrid hedge]

wis beo wulf best shield

[latent moon]

yeah

[hybrid hedge]

epic

are any other hiddens good?

[latent moon]

rama

luci is pretty good if you get triple bomb

same with guan yu and charged skewer except it needs the hammer a lot more

arthur is pretty player dependent, some hate it some love it

[stone rune]

gilga is gilga

[latent moon]

arthur is pretty okay tho, not really bad but also not that outstanding

and yeah gilga is pretty bad lmao

[formal citrus]

Isn't there an argument for Zeus best shield of trying to not account for personal preference

64 heat and all

[stone rune]

eh

[latent moon]

beo is better than zeus up until like... about 55ish iirc?

i forgot what amb said

but beo still handles extremely high heat pretty well until you turn on routine inspection

zeus is still good tho ofc

[stone rune]

up until ri and dc are in equation

[latent moon]

yeah pretty much

dc1 isn't too bad tbf

dc2 is kinda hell

[stone rune]

also its crazy how little damage zagbow does

[latent moon]

ri1 isn't too bad either

ri2 removes pstatus so there goes your damage

[stone rune]

but also how much chaos i get on every run i do with it

[latent moon]

ri3 is no casts so beo dies

[latent moon]

oh yeah it's pretty bad

tdash is carrying a lot of the work tbh

i think i had a run where i didn't get a hammer until ely

and i had another where i had flurry start and i swear it was just tdash doing the majority of the damage

[stone rune]

the attack eventually became fat

oh and it took 7 arty screens to get attack

[latent moon]

with enough chaos lmao

incredibly based

oh zag bow is aotw that's why you played it lmao

i'll give it a shot later tonight i guess

[stone rune]

i got my sub8 im done

also its not eligible cause it was first run i did lmfao

oh nvm it wasn’t

wait

i didnt stop the recording

[latent moon]

Based

If I get a sub9 I might call it a day lmao

My aim sucks too much to try for a sub8 bow

Sword unironically easier than bow for me

Bow might actually be my worst weapon for speed lmao

[stone rune]

rama pretty simple

[latent moon]

i'm still bad at aiming

[brisk trail]

could thy get a steam code

i have bought it already on switch

[main talon]

fiery presence on hestia is great

[night mountain]

where do I post a question about a spolier related prophecy?

[gray apex]

You could here

[night mountain]

ok so I'm currently doing the ||queens plan|| prophecy and I need to 'grow closer' with more Olympians - only problem with that is I already have friendship at max with all the olympians but I can't progress the quest. I might be missing something but idk what it could be at this point

[gray apex]

Have you gifted them Ambrosia?

[night mountain]

oh and I've had all the dialogue about ||Persephone || too

[night mountain]

yah

[gray apex]

Probably some dialogue/rng

[night mountain]

ah ok

Idm anyway its fun to grind, just making sure I haven't soft locked myself out of this quest unless it was a common issue haha

ty for the help <3

[gray apex]

Nah you cant softlock yourself. But sometimes the dialogue rng doesnt cooperate. I think you only need to gift 7 gods ambrosia (or for Demeter just get to her locked heart) and that should be it, the rest is dialogue.

[white path]

my 3rd boon is a duo lol

[young moth]

I keep skipping Aphrodite’s dialogue because my parents are in the room 😭😭😭

[uneven cloak]

Seems like beating Hades the first time is the big wall since you can get a ton of Titan Blood from just beating the Furies from different aspects?

[stone rune]

yea

well

different weapons

[uneven cloak]

Before first clearing, it was only per arms. Once heat is unlocked, each aspect can now get their own boss drops

Right?

Or am I getting it wrong?

[stone rune]

no

it's still per weapon

but you can do each weapon 20 times

[formal citrus]

Beating that heat is still a limiting factor, but if you can beat 0 heat you can probably beatt 1 heat

[stone rune]

20 heat is basically 0, hl1 lc1 em2 bp2 mm uc td3

[autumn rose]

honestly

wq5 fi8 wi4 pm5 ah7 xh0 ai5 si6 🙏

[ionic hemlock]

LC1, JS2, CF2, EM3, MM, UC, BP2 was my sheild 20

[spring rain]

https://ibb.co/vXwh38w I read this as furry cast 😭

[hybrid hedge]

is aspect of beowulf better than zeus

[stone rune]

yea

[hardy spear]

#h1-high-heat-strategies message

[formal citrus]

I always like LC2 because it still gives you +2 hp on room exit. Feel like I'm cheating the system

[ionic hemlock]

I use dark regen

[formal citrus]

Ah

[formal citrus]

Lol TD3 being called no heat

[stone rune]

no js no cp

no ap/ri

the only thing that could possibly stretch it would be bp2

but like

thats only maybe 3 rooms that are actually bad

[hybrid hedge]

what does this mean, this looks like chess notation

[stone rune]

it's definitely not chess notation

[autumn rose]

its a joke

[stone rune]

hey can you move my w piece to q5

[formal citrus]

I don't think I'm alone having my first clear take like 40 min

[stone rune]

well yeah

but your first clear isn't the clear where you're doing your 20th bounty

[formal citrus]

Right, cause there's a difference

Between doing 0 and 20

[stone rune]

not rlly

there's a difference between your skill level when you're doing 0 and your skill level when doing 20

and your build making ability

so there's theoretically a difference for your first few clears afterwards

but once you get like 10 or 20 clears they become identical

other than sometimes getting annoying bp combos

which wont rlly kill u anyways

[red elbow]

how much total darkness is needed to completely max out the mirror

[stone rune]

depends

do you want to max just the important options

[red elbow]

every skill

[stone rune]

or do you also want the useless ones

35365

you can lose 11000 off that by not doing fated authority

[red elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/police-coco-jaw-drop-skeleton-shocked-gif-15485742

[stone rune]

another 2000 by not doing olympian favor

another 550 by not doing privileged status

300 by not doing abyssal blood

90 by not doing dark regen

75 by not doing ruthless reflex

so it's more like

21900

a lot of that is from fated persuasion

but you also kinda need that

if you just wanna get 2 dice it's 14900

3 dice 17900

you can also ditch legacy if you're real desperate which would make it 2500 lighter

[autumn rose]

if i put swift flourish on zeus shield will ghe damage tick faster

[stone rune]

p sure it's just throw out time

like time it takes to shoot it

[still python]

how do you use hangover it just feels so useless whenever i use it

apart from call

[stone rune]

you need to pom it a lot

[still python]

a lot?

[stone rune]

yea

[still python]

doom just seems so much better

[stone rune]

well

doom needs ME

hangover doesnt

hangover is mostly a high heat thing

because you just need to pom it

without relying on many other boons

[main talon]

I now have every weapon aspect

[stone rune]

i still dont on my personal save

never got hades or gilga

[main talon]

Ok

[stone rune]

what do u have maxed

[main talon]

Hestia

[stone rune]

HESTIA BEST ASPECT 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪

[main talon]

and zag sword cus skelly was being a bit of a troll

[mint coral]

it was funny

[main talon]

It was admittedly pretty funny

I also now have every keepsake

which is cool

speaking of which what was the first keepsake yall got?

[mint coral]

I'm gonna guess either coin purse or cerb's collar

[main talon]

I believe mine was bone hourglass

[mint coral]

Charon was my first bond instead

[stone rune]

yeah me too

charon was my first max heart as well

[main talon]

Mine was dusa

[autumn rose]

Mine was Poseidon lol

[main talon]

broseidon

[autumn rose]

zeus aspect was fun af ngl

[mint coral]

it is

[autumn rose]

tho i did manage to get 4 zeus boons before asphodel so i probably won't always be that lucky

[ionic hemlock]

Recently I’ve been getting barely any boons at all, and the game decides to make my rng even worse when UC is active

[autumn rose]

what's best weapon for merciful end

[stone rune]

well

sword you can do it well

spear you can do it wellish

fists is like the primary one

[spring rain]

I beat the game for the 5th time now!!!!

also I love dusa with every cell of my body fr fr

[latent moon]

probably fists tbh, although if you dont get the duo then specifically nemesis is better

[formal citrus]

I accidentally got Lucifer merciful end once. Was pretty effective esp with the doom stacker

[autumn rose]

lol that sounds wild

[latent moon]

I think that was more doom stacking rather than ME lmao

[languid ruin]

Lucifer merciful end ?

[hybrid hedge]

how do i easily unlock beowulf

[formal citrus]

Nah, lots of gun dashing.

Tbf I guess it's not unlikely when I like anthena balls so much

[sharp stone]

Any time I play Hades, I'm compelled to have a thesaurus (not him ) nearby because at any moment, the narrator could just use those long fancy words I didn't learn

Like a codex of my own has been expanded

[red elbow]

why do i find beowulf dash so underwhelming

[stone rune]

what

[red elbow]

it feels tedious to use

[stone rune]

beowulf dash

[red elbow]

beowulf cast

[stone rune]

u dont have enough damage then

[red elbow]

whats a good shield dash attack build

[stone rune]

uh

there is no shield dash attack build

[red elbow]

damn

[stone rune]

the zag/chaos shield build is called getting cshot

[latent moon]

the main point of beo is the cast not the dash attack, attack, or special

[stone rune]

https://youtu.be/k2N81_s-6Zc here’s some relatively novice beo gp with good rng

its basically just dash strike into rush

[latent moon]

"relatively novice beo gp" sends a sub6

[stone rune]

there are like 1500 sub6s

[latent moon]

that doesnt make you a novice

at all

[red elbow]

sudden rush feels like a must have on beowulf to me

[stone rune]

cshot is better

sudden rush is like a bandaid on the gaping hole that is no cshot

[latent moon]

like you do realize that you're probably in the top 1 or 2% of players right

[stone rune]

well yeah but the average playtime is probably like 10 hours

[latent moon]

does that matter?

[stone rune]

in terms of people who actually play the game im probably bottom 25%

[latent moon]

give yourself more credit than you think lmao

bottom 25% is a bold statement for someone who has a 5:27

[stone rune]

you see the guy who churns out the sub7s every aotw

no matter what aspect

[latent moon]

1 person

[stone rune]

thats wya more impressive

[uneven cloak]

Never underestimate how many casuals play the game

[latent moon]

that quite literally doesn't make you bottom 25%

[stone rune]

there are like 10 sub5 s

[latent moon]

okay and

[uneven cloak]

10 people at best better than you

[stone rune]

also the gp in the 550 is way better than in my pb

[latent moon]

well it's more like 20-30 ish

[stone rune]

pb was basically just gacha gaming

[latent moon]

i'd say at most there's 75 people better than you lmao

[uneven cloak]

Then I'll feel right at home

[latent moon]

like unironically if you just take the active speedcord members + high heat players you're still in the top 5% guaranteed

calling yourself a bottom 25% doesn't make sense at all lmao

[stone rune]

im not rlly that good though i only play like 4 aspects

[uneven cloak]

By joining a Hades discord, you're already top 25% just from filtering casual players

[latent moon]

you still have good game sense

[stone rune]

and im only passable at 1

[latent moon]

"passable"

you have like 4 sub8s or something

[stone rune]

and its the easy one

[latent moon]

and if you wanted to you could probably do all aspects sub8 pretty easily

[stone rune]

im trying but i realized i have all of the easy ones

i have to play like

zagspear

[latent moon]

also getting a sub10 is above average lmao

[stone rune]

and gilga

you would not believe how many aspects there are

24

[red elbow]

shiiiiiit i spent hours trying to get beowulf to realize its too slow for my playstyle

[latent moon]

lowkey kinda true

[stone rune]

i mean thats just too many

[latent moon]

i mean that's fine

but you need to stop underselling your skill level lmao

[stone rune]

could have gone without like 10 of them at least

[latent moon]

you need to start recognizing that you're leagues better than the average player

[latent moon]

it's got a bit of a learning curve

dash strike into the dragon rush

that should help a bit

getting charged shot is a god send

sudden rush is decent cope

[stone rune]

fero guard 3rd for first hammer

otherwise rip

[red elbow]

how does the beowulf explosion work on charged shot

[stone rune]

goes where the cshot goes

[latent moon]

end of the cshot

[stone rune]

shrimple

[latent moon]

basically hera bow

but bigger

[stone rune]

and more damage

[red elbow]

do the stones spawn at the end of the shot

[latent moon]

yeah

you kinda want to do low-mid charge shots

[stone rune]

usually min

[latent moon]

you also ideally just blow up the enemy with the casts so you're not in danger while picking them up

[red elbow]

I see

[stone rune]

and get buff from wells

[red elbow]

giving up a run doesnt save any resources you collected on that run right

[stone rune]

yea

and keeps ur seed

[red elbow]

yea i figured and started killing myself instead

in lava

[tranquil dawn]

Does Nyx give the Arthur blade?

[uneven cloak]

Am I overselling Boiling Blood's value against bosses? It's making me not get Dio, Deme, Ares' cast boons.

[latent moon]

yes

[stone rune]

yea

[stone rune]

no

[tranquil dawn]

Ok Ty

[stone rune]

dem cast is useless

dio cast is situational and requires good build sense

[latent moon]

i mean it's a small amount but also it's quite literally free damage

small depending on aspect

[uneven cloak]

+50% dmg just from lodging a cast is huge for me

[stone rune]

ares cast is good if u get hunting blades and additive

[latent moon]

sometimes it's pretty big like on hestia or something

[red elbow]

gon try merciless fist i heard its a good dash attack build or something

[latent moon]

but it's just free damage lmao

[latent moon]

you just spam dash attack once you get the build going

[red elbow]

excellent

[stone rune]

every build is a dash attack build if you just mean doing dash attacks

[latent moon]

very boon hungry and you might not get it going lmao

you need 4/5 of the necessary boons to make it usable

the 5th boon you kinda want for bigger damage

[stone rune]

https://youtu.be/J9p7P_5LoAY here’s a perfect rng me dem run

[uneven cloak]

I'm still new to Hades but its nice seeing where it got its elements from past works. Concentrating Bastion's many weapons into just 6 arms (some being integrated as normal-altering hammer boons). And the multiple boon applications coming from Transistor's extensive way of applying the same boon into either attack, special, dash, call, cast, passive, etc.

[stone rune]

the other ones didnt enthrall me

[hybrid hedge]

how do i make Lucifer good, same question for beowulf

[latent moon]

lucifer is zeus attack, some % modifier on the special that isn't poseidon, poseidon dash, and triple bomb hamer

the dash is a bit flexible, you just want to be able to proc the special bombs with it

triple bomb is pretty important for dps tho

[red elbow]

does unlocking aspects with titan blood count towards the 5 titan blood requisite or do they have to be upgrades

[latent moon]

for beowulf, start poseidon cast, find artemis attack/special/call, get mirage shot, and win
find charged shot hammer ideally, sudden rush can work as cope

mirage shot is bugged to deal 100% instead of 30%

[latent moon]

unlocking should work i think?

[red elbow]

i hope so

[latent moon]

because that counts as investing titan blood

[red elbow]

ye

[chilly jasper]

aspect of lucifer is so much fun

but im confused about how the orb things work

sometimes they explode and sometimes they dont

[stone rune]

you have to hit them

[chilly jasper]

is there a titan blood farming strategy. or just do heat

[uneven cloak]

Trade

or 1200 with Chiron in Styx

takes luck though

since he sells all boss drops

33%?

I have yet to see him sell Ambrosia

[calm glacier]

I need help. Whats the gate with the option being a exclamation mark with 3 gems surrounding it mean?

[uneven cloak]

its specific to the region

but they offer different help

no combat

[calm glacier]

Ty

[uneven cloak]

those always give you 3 choices

and it never changes per region's denizen

[calm glacier]

Is armour damage good?

[uneven cloak]

if you got no other good choices

it's always good to remove armor asap so they can be staggered and bullied easier

[brisk trail]

I like armour damage especially for Elysium

[autumn rose]

Why has the terms changed on the pact for me
With Aegis, Exagryth and Malphon it says bounties still available at 0 expect none beyond this choose conditions at ur discretion

[formal citrus]

Never ambrosia, just diamond for 1k or blood for 1.2

[uneven cloak]

No wonder some topics I read mentioned it to be the true endgame resource

to the point that older players mentioned never to trade it

[formal citrus]

I traded it a bunch to max aspects

Nbd if you do

[uneven cloak]

Can I just pick a Fated boon then sell it afterwards?

does it still tag it as done?

[sour fog]

yes

[uneven cloak]

I finally got the mother of all Eris runs!

Cluster + Rocket!

It's not bad getting Rocket first

I kinda like the in-your-face application of it if you have T.Dash

faster damage too

[urban swift]

Clockets baby!!!

[uneven cloak]

It's so good that I didn't bother using my Attack

[prisma kite]

Never trade wot

[limber ether]

Basically you can play on higher heat if you like but it won't make a difference for unlocking the first set of bounties

[latent moon]

Yeah rocket first into clockets is a lot stronger than cluster into clockets

[stone rune]

cluster start does work

as well

rocket is better

[spring rain]

Ay imma be fr

This game is what made enjoy those heavy metal stuff

Before I played it I only enjoyed the deathcore, death metal, grindcore etc

Basically the extreme metal stuff

But now I really like heavy metal riffs

[pastel monolith]

lol usualy ppl start liking heavy metal in the opposite direction.. like they go from pop to rock to punk to metal or something along thoae lines

u started harder and heavier and now u learned to like just regular heavy metal haha

hades soundtrack is awesome.. especially em4 music.. always gets my blood flowing.. also makes me scared and slopppy when i do that fight haha

anyone have random basic tips for phase 3 of em 4.. i find lately that where my game falls apart.. i dont have enough experience with it and i usualy lose 2 dds

[rotund nexus]

I mean it basically sounds like you know the issue. You’re probably thrown off because majority of the game is reflex and it messes you up when you are learning again

Many people get stuck in a tempo when playing

So when you are doing something new it can be hard to break that tempo

My advice would be to focus more on slowing down vs trying to hit during openings

[wispy monolith]

Is there a way to know exactly when I should press the button when fishing? It seems entirely RNG to me and it's more than a little frustrating.

[rotund nexus]

I press it the moment the bobble goes down, you have a decent window. If you find it difficult to hit you may be dealing with some type of input lag

[mint coral]

Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide
There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.

Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.

A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.

[pastel monolith]

ur right.. thars good advice.
especially at the very end of a run its easy to get stuck in a rythm

[latent moon]

i could be wrong on this because i don't run em4 but isn't the 2nd and 3rd phase basically the same but the 3rd phase is just darker

[rotund nexus]

I think there are a few new attacks

[latent moon]

specifically from phase 2 to phase 3?

[rotund nexus]

But it’s like literally 2

[latent moon]

i know em4 adds some

[upbeat walrus]

@latent moon just jumped from 10:45 to 8:59

[latent moon]

very nice

[rotund nexus]

Yes I believe so

[upbeat walrus]

bro

I am shaking

[latent moon]

lmao beowulf right

beo kinda be like that

pb jumps happen quite often for beowulf afaik

good boon and room rng certainly helps a lot

[gray apex]

beowulf very hard aspect

never really liked it

[upbeat walrus]

yea beo

I was shooting for sub 10 going into elysium but the tunnels took no time

I didn’t even get Charge Shot either

that was the only negative thing. the room rng was like, pretty good

[raw herald]

neither

[upbeat walrus]

I honestly don’t know what made the time so fast

Beowulf has always been my best weapon. I want to start climbing Heat with it

[latent moon]

what time did you enter ely

[upbeat walrus]

that’s like the only split I’m not 100% sure about

I’m pretty sure it was about 4:40

oh yea

it was

2:20 Tartarus

2:20 asphodel

then 2:30 elysium

I was at 7:09 entering Styx, I knew unless I got 4 sacked I had sub 10

[latent moon]

7:09 styx entry is pretty good yeah

2:30 ely is pretty standard for like sub 8/9

[upbeat walrus]

yea

I didn’t get patty

actually

[latent moon]

c33 and c34 combats kinda shaft you

[upbeat walrus]

I didn’t get a single story room

[latent moon]

lmao nice

free time save

[upbeat walrus]

I got 3 chaos gates tho

I think I got all 3 mid shops too

so overall pretty decent rng

a huge time save for me was I started taking the mini boss rooms in elysium

I didn’t get asterius but butterfly ball took 0 seconds

[latent moon]

Butterfly ball vs bull time save is so large lmao

Tbf bull can be faster than some standard encounters

[upbeat walrus]

the last run was like 14 minutes, it just would not give me mirage shot

[latent moon]

Namely unarmored blue men and flame wheels

[upbeat walrus]

what

I didn’t even curse

I said I had charge shot and quick charge

but yeah the DPS just wasn’t enough

[latent moon]

You might've misspelled shot lmao

[upbeat walrus]

perhaps

but yeah that felt absolutely ridiculous

[latent moon]

And yeah flood flare without mirage kinda has no damage in ely

[upbeat walrus]

yeah

[latent moon]

You need a full volley of casts to kill a single enemy if you don't have chaos juice

[upbeat walrus]

this run I got mirage shot in Tartarus lmao

[latent moon]

Based

[upbeat walrus]

final shop in there

[latent moon]

I got that as well in my sub6 lmao

Which is the only reason why I kept a 2 min tart leave

[upbeat walrus]

oh nice

hahah

I wish it kept your splits

totally my fault for not writing them down

though I’m pretty sure I’m correct in those

[latent moon]

Recording your gameplay is budget saving splits

[upbeat walrus]

it might’ve been 2:30, 2:10, 2:30

[latent moon]

Sounds fairly accurate tbh

[upbeat walrus]

asphodel was fast

well, it felt fast

but yeah lernie with and without mirage shot is absolutely crazy

[latent moon]

2 stone vs 3 stone is huge

[upbeat walrus]

fr

[latent moon]

Esp when you only have 3 stones lmao

[upbeat walrus]

lol I’m looking at my permanent record

I’ve used Beowulf 64 times and cleared with it 51 times

and it’s my best time and Heat by far

in second place is hestia with 18 uses and 12 clears 💀

[latent moon]

Lmao mood

I have a couple hundred runs on beo on my modded save

My second most used aspect probably has 50 at most

[upbeat walrus]

I haven’t downloaded a single mod. though the Apollo and Hestia one looks very cool

and the instant death button would be nice

[latent moon]

Speedrun modpack tracks your splits

[upbeat walrus]

but yea other than the speedrunning ones there aren’t rly many others

yeah

it’s sad. seeing games that are also awesome like hollow knight getting full content packs and multiplayer mods

whereas there’s basically one content mod in this game

which is tbh pretty small as well

that’s my main hope for hades 2

[latent moon]

There's one that combines all the weapon aspects into one

Another has better balance for the game

[upbeat walrus]

better balance?

[latent moon]

I remember watching grandpoohbears video or something about hades and it said there's a multiplayer mod in the works

[upbeat walrus]

more friendliness to mods

[latent moon]

Some stuff in the game kinda sucks lmao

[upbeat walrus]

oh? I’m excited for that if that’s true

[latent moon]

Idk where development is on that one

The vid is probably about a year old or so

[upbeat walrus]

I’m curious, I honestly don’t have much of a problem with a lot of it but maybe it’s just because I’ve brain rotted myself past it

[latent moon]

Ngl i don't remember what exactly got balanced

I know there's one that gives you early access chaos shield when it was good

[upbeat walrus]

I strongly dislike chaos shield

[latent moon]

Based

[upbeat walrus]

lol record says I’ve played it 4 times, cleared 3 times, with the best time being 29:44 with 0 Heat

no idea when that happened 💀

I bet those were like really early clears

[latent moon]

Probably

[upbeat walrus]

there’s definitely some aspects I’ve outright never played

looking at this

yeah there’s 4 I haven’t played…

oh they’re all zag aspects

[mint coral]

I didn't have a zag sword past like the first mandatory one lmao

Nor a win for that matter

[upbeat walrus]

zag shield, bow, fists, and rail

never even touched em

and I’ve never cleared with hades spear, Lucifer rail, Gilgamesh fists, Chiron bow, or nemesis sword

now that I’ve done sub 10 (and sub 9 ig) maybe clearing with all aspects could be my next goal

[hybrid hedge]

in styx is there a way to tell which gate has the foods

[latent moon]

Nope

Have fun with that

[upbeat walrus]

Just did 36 Heat in 17:10 without tight deadline 3 on :( @latent moon

damn maybe I can actually do 40 Heat

[latent moon]

lmao nice

beo kinda good for heat

[upbeat walrus]

yea

[latent moon]

what's your 40 pact gonna be

[upbeat walrus]

I used aphro keepsake and still got mirage shot

late elysium

[latent moon]

lmao nice

i think one of my 40 heat speedruns had aphro start into mirage shot

[upbeat walrus]

hard labor 100%
jury summons 60%
EM4
cal program max
benefits package max
middle management
FO2
damage control 1
TD3

[latent moon]

oh that's kinda cursed

[upbeat walrus]

oh?

[latent moon]

uh

gimme a sec

[upbeat walrus]

I just did that with TD2 and jury summons 40%

it was very not difficult

I guess I could keep jury summons 40 and do damage control 2 also

[latent moon]

the cursed part is cp2 and dc1 tbh

and em4 kinda

well em4 is fine actually

no lasting consequences?

[upbeat walrus]

I don’t like it

[latent moon]

convenience fee?

[upbeat walrus]

I take stupid damage

oh yeah I could do that

I bought max health twice tho and a boon

I thought CP2 was fine

[latent moon]

wait this is 40 not 50

[upbeat walrus]

yes

[latent moon]

you should learn lc4 sd

you need cleaner boss fights but your room clearing will be a lot easier

[upbeat walrus]

what’s sd?

[latent moon]

stubborn defiance

[upbeat walrus]

oh

hmmm

[latent moon]

i made a 32 heat guide that's pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies that explains why

[upbeat walrus]

yeah that makes a lot of sense I’m just scared of EM4

I think there’s no reason to fix the non-broken thing, I basically just did 39 Heat

[latent moon]

get rid of em4

take lc4 for that

[upbeat walrus]

hm

[latent moon]

i mean you got mirage shot

so

[upbeat walrus]

true

[latent moon]

quite literally double damage for em4 lmao

[upbeat walrus]

got it once can get it again

[latent moon]

true

my first 40 heat got mirage

but i started flood flare

[upbeat walrus]

what’s the % increase between Poseidon flood flare and passion flare

[latent moon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839538570738139146/1128420000852627547/image.png?width=640&height=670

this is generally pretty standard for the basis of a 40 heat pact

[upbeat walrus]

what’s the remaining 3?

[latent moon]

i typically do ap1 and js/cf

i'd do that for beo

beo isn't boon hungry so ap1 isn't a big deal

[upbeat walrus]

hmmm

[latent moon]

not getting cshot or sudden can kinda suck tho

[upbeat walrus]

I didn’t get either of those lol

[latent moon]

the other option is some combo of js and cf

[upbeat walrus]

my hammers were like meme worthy

[latent moon]

you'll be fine then

[upbeat walrus]

I bet my setup should get 40

[latent moon]

esp since you got through the em4 time sink and you wont take it this time

[upbeat walrus]

it’ll get complicated after that

[latent moon]

probably

40 is still pretty flexible

[upbeat walrus]

yeah

it’s basically 40/55 because no hecking way am I taking the mirror one

[latent moon]

lmao yeah it's kinda bad

hestia deals with it pretty fine tho

some others as well

[upbeat walrus]

yea that’s why hestia is best for stupud high heat ig

anyways gtg ty for help

I’ll update you on it

[latent moon]

aight gl

[main talon]

Just maxed hestia and eris aspect

[autumn rose]

If I have my spear at 18 heat to be eligible for bounties, and i do overheated run at say 32 heat, after that run will the heat for the spear be 19 for bounties?

[stone rune]

yea

[spring rain]

Yeah exactly
Since I started with the heavier stuff I found the lighter more uuh 90s heavy metal very boring
But now I'm getting the badass feeling they trynna give

Also sorry I didnt respond earlier

Pls ping me haha

[upbeat shard]

was this game 20$? Its noe 35 and i dont know if its owrth it

oh nvm

[latent moon]

original price should be 25 lmao

[calm glacier]

Best weapon? I've found the bow pretty easy to use for the first 3 ish floors. Wondering what other people think

[stone rune]

rail/bow/shield

[hybrid hedge]

what weapon got highest dps

[stone rune]

beo

[ionic hemlock]

“I would prefer to fade to nothingness far more than be required to consume one of those foul plants, which tainted too many a meal of mine while I was living, and goad me even now that I am dead”

-Achilles

[wheat salmon]

😭 after 38 tries (i think) i finally beat the final boss

[ionic hemlock]

Nice

N o w d o i t a g a i n

[wheat salmon]

😭 please don't make me do it again

[ionic hemlock]

T h e r e i s n o e s c a p e

[wheat salmon]

🫡 i will make an escape

😭 THIS ENDING IS KILLING ME

[tender solstice]

does anyone know why my antivirus detected and quarantined a file called "Win32:Malware-gen" ?? the game was working perfectly fine until today

[void vigil]

sounds like a question for #h1-tech-support

[tender solstice]

oh right

[wispy monolith]

I think I just finished the main story?

[latent moon]

main story is 10 wins

[wispy monolith]

||I reached Hades and he just let me pass, then I rode back with Persephone via Charon's boat||

[latent moon]

yeah that's 10 wins

[wispy monolith]

(POTENTIAL SPOILER, CLICK AT OWN RISK)

[main talon]

Freest titans blood of my life

[chilly jasper]

what has the highest dps (not beo, its hard to use lmao)

[raw herald]

Probably hera

Although it’s very similar to beos that playstyle

Eris is good as well

[tepid light]

Guan Yu

[uneven cloak]

BTW as someone who plans on getting everything, how should I use the trading system?

which boss resource should i be prioritizing?

[formal citrus]

I always traded up when the special deal was better than the always on deal. Sometimes did the others too mostly to get blood to unlock aspects faster. You'll always have more of everything is the nice part

I still haven't gotten all the badges. Not sure if I have enough, maybe

[last veldt]

Basically if you want everything, including getting to rank Unseen One, then nothing matters. You'll end up severely starved of darkness for a few hundred runs anyway.

You'll run out of things to spend gems on directly fairly soon too.

I mostly never trade with the broker for the normal deals unless there was something I wanted right now. Only the special deals are worth it (and not all of them).

[autumn rose]

i got all the bounties

i don't have an objective to work toward in the game anymore

[formal citrus]

Heat. Speed.

Wait, what are bounties?

[mint coral]

The rewards for beating the bosses each time

[formal citrus]

Ah, 0-20 heat

[autumn rose]

how many times can fated persuasion get upgraded

[mint coral]

Max is 4 dice

[main talon]

I am missing one companion

[autumn rose]

Which ones do u have

[upbeat shard]

quick wuestion? If i beat meg, do i have to continue to beat her each time?

[main talon]

yes

[upbeat shard]

thats annoying

[main talon]

Not too much

[upbeat shard]

does she become easy after a while?

[main talon]

no

she gets harder with something you'll get later

[calm glacier]

Do hammers stack?

[main talon]

Like what?

can I have an example

[calm glacier]

Eg: triple shot, long distance increased by 200%, short distance increased by 150% ect

That would be for the bow

[main talon]

Yeah

in that example you wouldnt get extra damage

[calm glacier]

You mean the damage multipliers won't stack? (But triple shot will?)

Even tho they aren't "stacking" since they are for different distances

[main talon]

cause you cant hit the same enemy at both ranges

[calm glacier]

Yeah, i get that. I didn't mean damage stacking. I meant having both equipt at the same time

[mint coral]

Can't get both

Some hammers prevents others from appearing

[calm glacier]

But the damage ones can still stack with triple shot. I swear i did that a couple runs ago

[mint coral]

some

Twin shot and sniper shot block each other for example

Triple and sniper won't

[main talon]

Triple Shot Your Attack fires 3 shots in a spread pattern.
Cannot be combined with Twin Shot

[formal citrus]

Yes, because you unlock more in game buffs and also get better as a player

[spring rain]

https://ibb.co/2t07DZR only 4 more to go :>

all of my winning runs had divine dash and I'm sure thats not a coincidence

[buoyant elk]

So ladies and gents and everyone in-between

I have a question that needs a discussion

[main talon]

Go on

[buoyant elk]

If other characters were to use the aspect of Zagreus on the infernal arms what do you think they're activate phrase would be?

Either individually for a weapon or for the weapons themselves

[hybrid hedge]

whats trading and good do i get it

[buoyant elk]

Interesting statement

[upbeat walrus]

@latent moon bro.

I was 1 hit away from 40 heat

I couldn’t find him and tight deadline was out and I guessed but I was wrong

I’m actually so mad rn it was such a not lucky run too room wise

boon wise was fine

it was so close that I genuinely didn’t know if I had died or won when I died

I’m gonna switch off the blue shields one. turning on one convenience fee

[stone rune]

dc at 40 definitely is bad

40 pact shrimple just hl5 lc4 cf2 em3 bp2 mm uc fo2 td3

think

oh and ap1

[latent moon]

sounds like em4 lmao

will say tho that you being good at em4 rn translates pretty well for a 50 heat clear lmao

[upbeat walrus]

that’s true. rn I’m on a run where I’m in asphodel and have all of the boons I want

except mirage

crush shot level 4, Posei core, Aphro core, and of course divine dash

[latent moon]

are you not running pstatus passion flare lmao

[upbeat walrus]

I am

[latent moon]

oh you just dont have it active lmao

[upbeat walrus]

wdym

[latent moon]

well you'd need some t2 boon

[upbeat walrus]

yeah

[latent moon]

considering this set up the only logical one is going to be exposed from athena

[upbeat walrus]

Well, I just lost the great seed to a standard elysium encounter

[latent moon]

and that's gonna be kinda iffy in normal rooms

lmao it do be like that

[upbeat walrus]

yep. I think I’ll prob run family favorite

I used it on that last run

[latent moon]

well

you should still use pstatus

and force demeter for your second god

dont try and go for mirage shot

[upbeat walrus]

is a 25% buff not huge?

oh

hm

[latent moon]

40% is bigger and it's easy to get going on beo

beo can hold it's own through asphodel

wait are you running ap1

[upbeat walrus]

yeah but then you’re locking yourself out of mirage shot which is outright double

which one is ap

[calm glacier]

How do i upgrade weapons? The option to upgrade one has appeared but only 1

[latent moon]

approval process

-1 boon choice

[upbeat walrus]

no

[latent moon]

it's less consistent to get with ap which is why i'm asking if you're running ap rn lmao

just start flood

flood into mirage

[upbeat walrus]

I just feel so weak with flood

even in Tartarus

[latent moon]

are you running calisthenics program

[upbeat walrus]

yes

[latent moon]

yeah that's why

[upbeat walrus]

I could do customs instead

[latent moon]

do that

oh god were you running cp2

[upbeat walrus]

okay cool

does cp2 effect bosses too

yes

[latent moon]

god yes

[upbeat walrus]

oh…

[latent moon]

you gave dad 5k more hp per phase

[stone rune]

what is your pact

[upbeat walrus]

LOL

[latent moon]

like straight up lmfao

[stone rune]

no way em4 cp2

[latent moon]

it's so cursed but honestly pretty impressive lmfao

[stone rune]

40 is simple hl5 lc4 cf2 em3 bp2 mm uc fo2 ap1 td3

[upbeat walrus]

yeah I mean I did 36 Heat under TD3 time without TD3 enabled

with the em4 cp2 build lmfao

yeah, ok, in retrospect it’s not genius

[latent moon]

50 heat is gonna be cakewalk for you i swear lmfao

[stone rune]

imagine resetting for an em4 cp2 instaphase build

[upbeat walrus]

I like EM4 better than LC4

I need my healing :(

plus em4 isn’t that bad

is there anything I should go for other than mirage shot? maybe Artemis legendary?

oh and snow burst

[stone rune]

artemis has a legendary?

[upbeat walrus]

ig art legendary

yea it’s +2 casts

for beo that’s nice

[stone rune]

actually thoutgh

dont go for it

you're not hitting it