#h1-discussion

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stone rune
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just because the probability of flipping heads 5 times in a row is really low

peak carbon
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I get your point

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I understood

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I'm just saying, I should be getting it soon

compact dawn
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What rooms can't spawn Chaos Gates besides the mid shops?

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And Styx obviously

rotund raft
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should i buy hades?

compact dawn
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No, mid game /j

rotund raft
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alr

compact dawn
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Yes, my friend recommended it to me last year and it's become one of my top 10 games

rotund raft
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oh alr

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😭

compact dawn
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Endless replayability, huge amounts of player expression, awesome art style and music, plus the story it tells is refreshing

rotund raft
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i was just worried it was dead

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lol

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i’ve just been playing zelda totk and want to play a new game

compact dawn
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Well one of the great things about Hades is that its roguelike structure means you can easily pick it up and put it away for quick sessions

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And dying rarely feels truly punishing since you're always learning + upgrading your abilities + progressing character arcs and the story

rotund raft
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alr cool

compact dawn
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So it could be a good pairing with TotK which is a very immersive, time intensive game that you'd probably play on for long sessions

rotund raft
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what do you play it on?

compact dawn
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I play it on PS4

rotund raft
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nice

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alr i just bought it

compact dawn
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It's good on all platforms however playing on PC will open you up to running many more speedrun categories and also let you mod the game and install someone else's 100% save file

rotund raft
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that’s no fun tho

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but if i really like the game i’ll buy it on ox

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pc

compact dawn
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Fair enough, it's good on all platforms

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Just thought I should mention since some people quite like speedrunning the game

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But even then, there are a lot of people who run the game unmodded on consoles

rotund raft
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is it a online game?

compact dawn
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Nope, purely offline and singleplayer

rotund raft
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alr

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ig ima just watch one peice till it finishes downloading

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@compact dawn what’s your top 3 games rn

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mine are valorant legend of zelda and prob gonna be hades

latent moon
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barge

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i want to say maybe asterius miniboss but not entirely sure

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but should work everywhere else

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oh no chaos in fountains

compact dawn
latent moon
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i mean i haven't seen the asterius miniboss in a while lmao

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so i could be wrong on that one

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but the others are correct at least

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every other miniboss can have a chaos so it might be there

upper drift
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So for the railgun, i took the hammer that makes me deal 300% damage but enables self damage. Does Athenas Special deflect counter the self harm?

gray apex
upper drift
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aww okay thanks

limpid ocean
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So with zeus shield I couldn't get to Hades with over 40 heat unless I took em4 to do 44 heat

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but I finally reached him now

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317/347 hp, just got the athena boon for an extra +10% and a replenish so I have double defiance for final fight

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with 1 encounter left for styx dark too

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I hope cold fusion helps a lot during his beam attack

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oh and I have dio damage resistance (epic) when under 40% hp

noble merlin
limpid ocean
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aight here we go

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I was so close

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had 3:50 left entering the fight and I ran out of time and still nearly got him

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died phase 3 with about 20% hp left on him

noble merlin
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I wonder if you're capable of making a save point there and practicing against EM4, probably would help.

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getting him down would help run higher heat by default

limpid ocean
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yeah I realized with lower heats I should practice fo2 with em4

upper drift
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ah damn cant post pictures, but heyi got my first clear! I think itaws the 22nd attempt?

limpid ocean
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also I dedided to try 42 heat with em3 and lc2, on hades now. Got an extra half minunte this time around

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I lost. Had crappy damage because I couldn't get splitting bolt or smouldering

limpid ocean
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finally beat it on 42.

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zeus shield with splitting bolt and 100% hyper delivery combo

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and poseidon call with clouded judgment I had 3 greater calls in dad fight

upper drift
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i didnt even know you could go to 42

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i hear everyone talk about 32 and thought that was the cap

mint coral
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32 is the last reward the game offers

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Heat goes up to 63 on normal mode and 64 on hell mode

upper drift
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oh wow

formal citrus
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What's the additional hell mode heat?

mint coral
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Personal liability
It disables that shield that pops up wheb you lose a lot of health in a short time

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You won't notice it most of the time untill you eat an ely wiitvh orb attack to the face

formal citrus
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It comes up when you only have like 11 total health too lol

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But neat

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Seems like free heat on hell mode.

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What does hell mode do then?

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I should try out hell mode as an excuse to start a new file.

mint coral
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Hl1/js1/lc1/cp1 and PL

formal citrus
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Ah

mint coral
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Bounties go up to 25 heat instead of 20

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(to make up for the 5 heat)

formal citrus
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Is it fun?

mint coral
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Never done a hell mode file tbh

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If you want to go really high in heat it helps cuz the forced pacts are ones that you will eventually take anyways

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And PL allows to avoid going to js3-cp2 things like that

formal citrus
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True

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So yeah, sorta a free heat

latent moon
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it's free heat at higher heats lmao

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at earlier heat levels, you have to deal with js1 and cp1 now

candid canyon
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so I was wondering

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I just got a diamondnfrom the hydra even tho on my word document I wrote down I beat the hydras 1 time with the bow

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is it the case that If I use a different aspect of the weapon I ll get the reward again or did I just make a mistake and this is actually the first time

mint coral
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Aspects dont allow you to gain rewards again

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I assume you haven't got your first win yet?

marble whale
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coronoc is the best in the game and you can't prove me wrong because it's true hahahahahaha
I couldn't think of anything to say and I'm using voice typing so it always repeats the last word that I say unless I use punctuation my Punctuation is badbad

stone rune
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beo:

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bow doesnt have the best aspect in the game and it has chiron so it cannot have the best 4 aspect run

marble whale
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if I try to use backspace it just repeats the last word or so repeatedly foreverforever
or anything till I stop pressing backspacebackspace

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at least I said not anythinganything

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I feel this microphone photos terrible but either this microphone is terrible or the actual app that recognizes this is worse than I don't knowknow
better I started so many times and I don't even know what I was supposed to say there whoopswhoops

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terrible
I've always just decided that it wanted to stop recognizing speech and stop listening I meanmean

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I don't know why I suck at speakingspeaking

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oh my God I said it just decided not I've always decideddecided

still python
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hestia is best aspect

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also demeter

marble whale
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aspective HeraHera

still python
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i dont like the bow

marble whale
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how dare you that is so ruderude

still python
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takes too long to kill single small targets

autumn rose
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dash strike

still python
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still

autumn rose
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?

marble whale
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what what do you mean - strikestrike

autumn rose
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i mean

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dashatrike

stone rune
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what is wrong with using the keyboard again

marble whale
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I did not know that the word Dash turns into the actualactual
it does the part of speechspeech

autumn rose
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ur too much tongue tongue

marble whale
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I'm on an Android TV because I don't even know I'm too lazy to get up and go to my PC andand
typing is torturetorture

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it just decides to stop listening every once in awhile so I have to make a new line and then go againagain

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sorrysorry

autumn rose
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dont be sorry

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look at this cat

stone rune
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well anyways

autumn rose
stone rune
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just like

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use twin shot

marble whale
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what I meant to say before I was I didn't know that the word Dash turns into the horizontal lineline

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also it does well picking out small enemies at least in my experienceexperience

stone rune
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and dash strike power shot

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or just use hera

marble whale
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Hera best aspectaspect

stone rune
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beo:

autumn rose
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I hate giligamesh

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I hate gilgamesh

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I hate gilgamesh

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Ty for listening

still python
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👏

still python
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you do like the same amount of damage as aphro hestia with good boons

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except you have to be stupid and load thingos into your thing

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and get a bunch of duos

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and its slower

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and you dotn get clockets

stone rune
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i mean

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you definitely do more than that

latent moon
still python
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they cheated

latent moon
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By a large margin

still python
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ong

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i mean the attack is slwoer

stone rune
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what

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the attack is literally instant

still python
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hera attack is not instant

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you have to liek powershot and eveything and load th thingo

stone rune
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yea it is

still python
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i just dont like it

stone rune
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oh

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ur not modded

still python
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yeah?

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huh

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is it isntant on modded

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hwo does that even work

stone rune
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u get flurry

autumn rose
stone rune
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still thoigh]

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u dont power shot on hera

still python
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hm

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i might get modded soon

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barge is actualyl so annoying

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my best time has a barge 3 sack

stone rune
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was just pogging at 132 furies entrance

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with epic shot and qr

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tis

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🗿

latent moon
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hera?

stone rune
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yea

latent moon
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i mean that's not too bad

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just get more skips

stone rune
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well

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it was 148 exit

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into 336 exit 🗿

latent moon
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that's fine

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oh

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well what are you shooting for

stone rune
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sub7

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i have a 711

latent moon
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ah

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tbh doable

stone rune
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i resat

latent moon
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oh

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welp

stone rune
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because ngl

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i was gonna die anyways

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22 hp no dds

latent moon
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well

stone rune
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and i want like a sub320

latent moon
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dont die

stone rune
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its literally so much better on controller though

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even though 711 was kbm

latent moon
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3:40 -> 5:20 -> 6:00 -> sub7 idk lmao

stone rune
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520 🗿

latent moon
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oh that's a 1:40 ely

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i mean

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doable lmao

latent moon
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i played bow on my friend's switch a couple weeks ago and by god it was so smooth

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lvl 0 zag bow

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and i actually hit my shots lmao

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i lowkey want to get an xbox 360 wire

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partially so i can actually use bow

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partially because i want to stop killing my keyboard

stone rune
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i had to abandon my laptop keyboarxcd

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it basically doesnt work anymore

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now i just uninstall the laptop keyboard driver and put an actual keyboard on top of it

latent moon
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lmao based

stone rune
latent moon
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uh

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i dont remember but i want to say maybe like 17 min

stone rune
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nice

latent moon
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i dont remember what sack tho

stone rune
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what sakc

latent moon
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had bad hammers

stone rune
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oh

stone rune
latent moon
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true

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i should convince my brother to get 2 controller wires

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because apparently he said that he keeps missing in diablo 4 lmao

stone rune
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is diablo 4 a real game

latent moon
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idk i heard it's good and a lot of people are enjoying it

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my laptop doesn't have the specs or storage to try lmao

stone rune
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my hades vods vs my will to install doom eternal for another 4 hours

latent moon
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just upload the vods and then delete them

stone rune
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uploading takes so long

latent moon
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the only vods i keep are the aspect pbs lmao

stone rune
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and so much wifi

latent moon
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leech a library's wifi or something

stone rune
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i keep those too but im still sad about deleting my achilles 50 vod

latent moon
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i mean keep it then

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how many aspect pb vods do you even have

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i only have like 3 lmao

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or 4

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3 if i deleted rama

stone rune
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i forgot about it

latent moon
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oh i have 5

stone rune
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uh

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i have like

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nem

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achilles

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hestia

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beo

latent moon
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sub6, zag plume, rama, gilga, and 40 heat beo

stone rune
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for igt

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oh

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and hera and rama

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and zagsword

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ive given up trying to sub7 rama

latent moon
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5 vids for 4.66 gigs residentzag

stone rune
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when i get a 711 after like barely any practice on hera

latent moon
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lmao

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i should try to sub8 rama

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but i also kinda just hate using bow

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i like the bows but it's so hard to go fast on them when you miss 2/3 of the shots

stone rune
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the solution for me was to pause scum literally everything ever

compact dawn
lunar apex
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can you only get one of a type of boon from chaos in a run?

stone rune
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no

lunar apex
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like, if I already got some attack damage, can I get more?

stone rune
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yes

lunar apex
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cool thanks

wispy sinew
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So I really love an hate this game 😆 but what's everyone's favorite skill layout?

slender crypt
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Is Dusa an option? My skill layout is Dusa

wispy sinew
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I'm still learning but I love all the first 4 weapons sides bow idk what the fist like yet

pastel monolith
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all the weapons have their pros and cons

wispy sinew
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Bows con is no fast basic attack I'd say what is the fist?

pastel monolith
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they are all great in their own way .. except spear sucks lol

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for bow just always dash attack

wispy sinew
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I actually really like the spear 😆

pastel monolith
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i did too once upon a time..

stone rune
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the achilles in question

wispy sinew
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I thought I hate the shield but it's dope too

pastel monolith
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a lot of it depends on personal taste and play style

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and build .. hammers in particular

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but if ur newer at the game its all amazing just try everything and find ways to make it go

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for all the variety hades has to offer.. its incredible how balanced it is

wispy sinew
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Hades variety makes it where idt u can ever actually complete the game an that's awesome

pastel monolith
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💯

wispy sinew
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So I randomly got the fist is it just for x amount tries or did I do something

pastel monolith
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for me i was obsessed with hades when i first started playing.. one more run.. one more run... i lost so much sleep
but the real fun started when i was like 100hrs in and i already unlocked everything and finished the story

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hades is like a sport to me

lethal bay
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is ruthless reflex any good

pastel monolith
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not rly

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no .. maybe in very specific instances

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but generally no

wispy sinew
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I'm obsessed too I was told yo u like celeste get hades I'm like cool bet mf didn't say how hard it is or I might just be noob

mint coral
pastel monolith
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celeste is one of my other favorite games too

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i dont usualy actually get into most new games

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but certain ones capture me

wispy sinew
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@mint coral thnx

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Yea I have a love for indie games but like didn't expect hades to be this hard makes celeste look like tik tac toe or something

pastel monolith
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hades by far has been my favorite game in ages.. its a contender as my absolute favorite game of all time

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i love some classics... but as far as modern games go im just not rly into them.. i dont have the patience or attention span to follow cutscenes and stuff..

wispy sinew
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Yea I get that

pastel monolith
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but also idk if that's accurate rly because stardew valley is one of my faves and thst game takes foreever

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celeste.. mario maker.. hades.. "real games"

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lol

stone rune
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man achilles is hard to use on controller

wispy sinew
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Oof mb

pastel monolith
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jazz do u usualy play mouse and keyboard?

stone rune
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yea

pastel monolith
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thats surprising to me

stone rune
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y

wispy sinew
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I use controller cuz bought on ps5 but I can see the game be better on kbm

pastel monolith
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just bc u seem like basicaly an expert on hades and 99% of the "great" hades players seem to use controller

stone rune
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im not rlly that good

pastel monolith
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ive seen some videos of mouse keyboard platers who are elite amazing expert pros

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but its rare

stone rune
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theres ocke

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mike

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kontra i think

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most heat players

pastel monolith
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i cant imagine playing on mouse and keyboard but i guess ultimately it doesnt make a very significant difference

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but idk.. the default controlls seem unfathomable to mw

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special is Q ? what?

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lol

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not that im any kind of expert. i just play a lot and watch a lot

stone rune
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yea spec q

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i use default controls on kbm

pastel monolith
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but why

stone rune
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they work and im used to them ig

pastel monolith
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just started that way and got used to it? or do prefer it iger controller for any specific reason? does it have advantages?

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i bet its better in some ways

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bow probably

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and rail

stone rune
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hell no

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those are the two weapons where it is like

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pretty indubitably worse

pastel monolith
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lol

stone rune
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like

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with rail

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you have to turn off aim at cursor

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and bow just sucks to aim

pastel monolith
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controller has auto aim setting i never turn it off but sometimes its irritating

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zag locks onto the wrong targets sometimes

lunar apex
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sure but with kbm you just whiff

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I could never get a dash strike with rail or bow to work on kbm

pastel monolith
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specifically lucifer rail comes to mind.. i wana aim at the specials to blow them up but instead i shoot at something i cant even hit

lunar apex
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miss every time

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you can aim the special if you hold the button down

pastel monolith
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hold what down

lunar apex
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edited, but I meant the special button

mint coral
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Controller Achilles auto aim is painful

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It basically snaps to anything

pastel monolith
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i dont ever use spear special

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except quickly in random direction to trigger achiles buff

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or if i get charge skewer

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i was talkin bad about spear earlier but its probably just bc i dont rly know how to use it properly

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is there a good place to learn like advanced strategies

stone rune
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speedcord

pastel monolith
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ive seen some of that

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i think i need to do a deeper dive into it

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everytime i look on youtube its just basic stuff

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speedrun community gets into the specifcs

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i want like a youtube channel

still python
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i use left click for attack right for special

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unless hestia right for reload

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special left shift

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cast is always q

pastel monolith
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that sounds good to me

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dash is space bar obviously i assume

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whats the default right click?

lunar apex
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I used dash on a thumb button on my mouse when I played kbm, it worked well

pastel monolith
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any hades experts out there . if u could make a youtube playlist of like.. detailed specific expert tier hades guides.. theres no one else doing it from what ive seen.. u could probably get a lot of views

lunar apex
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there's not that much data outside of the speedrunning community. The game isn't long enough to maintain anyone else's attention for that long

pastel monolith
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yeah that seems pretty basic level

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i didnt clixk on it

lunar apex
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...you just assumed from the title?

pastel monolith
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but theres a lot of buiod ideas and suggestions and basic tips

lunar apex
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it's significantly more data than you need to finish the game, so there's not much point in going "higher level" unless you're speedrunning, which is why all the super detailed guides are from the speedrunning community

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as far as I can tell, at least

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that definitely taught me enough to stomp the game pretty hard

pastel monolith
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im talkin like.. breakdown of specific techniques with each aspect.. each type of room and enemy spawning.. how to utilize meg .. all the nitty gritty nerd stuff.. optimal dps min maxing etc

lunar apex
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that has a decent breakdown of how to use each aspect, enemy rooms and spawns you can find on speedrunning guides

pastel monolith
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ya someone should take all that knowledge from the speedrunning community and make a youtube series breakin it down

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i havent seen much of anything like that on yt

stone rune
pastel monolith
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ive seen some stuff on reddit and discord and occasionally one specific thing or two on a crappy youtube video

stone rune
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dyno i will rip your legs in twain

still python
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it always is

lunar apex
stone rune
still python
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waitttt

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is it not

stone rune
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right click is usually cast

still python
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oh

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alright

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i couldnt use the default bindings for the death of me

stone rune
pastel monolith
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but im sure theres other ppl like me who are too lazy to pay close attention to all the stuff there is.. i would appreciate if there was a youtube channel going in depth about the very specific expert level tips regarding speedruns and dps and all the subtle things to know at the elite level

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know what i mean? idk if im explaining well.. or making sense..

stone rune
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hades youtube is fake

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it's basically just haelian

pastel monolith
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ya lol

still python
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haelians the best

stone rune
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the info u want is all gonna be in the minds of people in speedcord

pastel monolith
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haelians "overexplained" videos are the closest to what im talkin about

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but they barely scratch the surface

stone rune
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yea

pastel monolith
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i guess I should just look more into the speedcore community

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thers a lot of good info out there

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I think thats where i finally learned how to meg the witches in asphodel

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also just watching vorime on twitch and pestering him with random questions

still python
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wait how

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you can do that\

pastel monolith
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what?

still python
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meg the witches

pastel monolith
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meg the witches? or bug vorime?

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oh

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depending on the layout.. u go to one side.. wait a sec till the far witch moves closer.. aim in a specifc angle.. and drop meg

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u hit all of em

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my descriptions not good lol

still python
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ooooooooooooooooooooooooo

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whattt

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this is huge

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il look into it

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only just figured out how to meg the sneak for sub9

pastel monolith
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i forget where i saw the specific instructions.. i don't think it was a youtube it might have been reddit

still python
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ok thanks

stone rune
still python
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tyyy

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ohhhhhh

stone rune
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stand there, poke the witch, meg when the last one is on screen

still python
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ok cool

pastel monolith
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i just now googled "how to meg witches hades" and it came up with some youtube videos that seem to break it down

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maybe try that and check em out

stone rune
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on controller the harder one is bombers

pastel monolith
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ya i usually dont bother

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bombers are the tartarus ones with the grenades or whatever

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right

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theres 4 of em with middle management

stone rune
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it's rlly easy on kbm

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but on controller u have to guess

latent moon
latent moon
pastel monolith
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if they cluster up ill sometimes do a meg depending on how much armor they have

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but definitely have no consistency

pastel monolith
latent moon
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fair enough then

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there is a picture but it's a lot easier to watch it lol

pastel monolith
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where can i find this guide

latent moon
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under the companions section

pastel monolith
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thx♡

latent moon
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which is under builds

still python
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wait @stone rune what are your binds with eris

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i cant seem to be able to use everything at once

stone rune
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standard

still python
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so i end up playing hestia with minimal special

stone rune
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these are my binds for everything not named hera

still python
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you dont rebind reload for hestia?

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or cast for beo

stone rune
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no

latent moon
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Well casts for beo is fine on right click

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Not rebinding reload is kinda cursed

still python
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yeah

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having to reach for r every time i reload on hestia

stone rune
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it’s not a reach ngl

latent moon
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How do you dash reload cancel to the right

stone rune
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you can hit d and r with the same finger

still python
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yea hthats what i mean

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yeah have to reach with your d finger

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to the r

still python
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at least i cant

stone rune
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i just said how lol

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actually

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nvm

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just did a few rotations

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you just like

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let go of d

slender crypt
#

Anyone know any good strats to complete the keepsakes? I mean, it's the last thing I need before I get the platinum

stone rune
#

which ones do u need

slender crypt
#

After that, I just need to somehow get Dusa to talk to me and finish the weapon challenges

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Hold on, I have pictures

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Sent in tech support

stone rune
#

wait

#

so you just need to rank them up?

slender crypt
#

Mhm

stone rune
#

well

#

if you for some reason have a max rank plume

slender crypt
#

I love plume

stone rune
#

you should have leveled shackle, hourglass, and acorn

#

why did you send that in tech support though

slender crypt
#

I couldn't send it here, and I'm tired so brain slow

stone rune
#

paste in another server and then copy media link

slender crypt
#

Hm?

stone rune
slender crypt
stone rune
#

yea

slender crypt
#

Oooooh

#

Cool

stone rune
#

so yeah

#

pom blossom sucks but you gotta use it ig

#

same with

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shawl and distant memory

#

earring you could do some 32 runs on a flat damage wep and keep it on past aspho

slender crypt
#

I can do those with varatha ig

stone rune
#

i mean

#

your wep does not matter for distant memory

#

or shawl

#

you could alternate between collar and acorn as defensive keepsakes

slender crypt
#

I know

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Just to make it somewhat viable

stone rune
#

it won’t be

#

just do it on something you find fun

slender crypt
#

Because I like the melee aspect and it has the range and hammer upgrades for distant foes

stone rune
#

but shackle you could also just do like

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random hestia runs

#

32 hestia shackle could make it worth the time

slender crypt
#

Fair enough

autumn rose
#

Is there anything in particular I can do to increase the chances to get the defiance boon from chaos

peak carbon
mint coral
#

Parting shot is free 400 gold if you can sell

peak carbon
mint coral
#

Oh

peak carbon
#

They're all fantastic boons but like... no use to me at all

mint coral
#

Lmao

peak carbon
#

I just took last stand

#

I only used 1 dd on hades cos i wasn't trying

#

Nemesis sword is carrying me like crazy

autumn rose
#

Also does anyone know why hermes isn't besties with me yet

#

I've unlocked a bond with everyone else

#

Do I gotta do smth or is it just gonna happen randomly at some point

peak carbon
#

A fresh dd is great for me cos I die a oot

mint coral
autumn rose
#

Thanksz

limpid ocean
#

Using beowulf for first time

#

I have trippy shot epic level 4 and mirage shot and have 4 casts (stygian w/ 2.5s regen) for styx

mint coral
#

Gg

limpid ocean
#

I lost 2 of them 1 chamber before hades

#

because my hourglass is only level 2

#

but still beat em4 hades

stone rune
stone rune
peak carbon
#

I had artemis/zeus duo

stone rune
#

parting shot is not fantastic

peak carbon
#

So I wasn't trying to hit anyone w my cast, so it having extra backstab dmg wasn't fab

#

Oh

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I find it helpful sometimes

stone rune
#

it’s like 35% boost

#

but only like a tenth of the time

autumn rose
#

And to the cast of all things

stone rune
#

i mean cast is good

#

but also i believe the extra backstab dmg is global

limpid ocean
#

how does repulse shot wrok? Aspect of rama

stone rune
#

it basically does nothing of value

#

it releases a knockback wave when you release a shot

limpid ocean
#

lol no wonder

stone rune
#

which you like

limpid ocean
#

I got it and was like "am I using this correctly?"

stone rune
#

dont need at that point

#

since you already released the shot

limpid ocean
#

it's a cool weapon though

#

just one shotted a whole infernal gate in asphodel with it

limpid ocean
#

beat em4 hades with it first try

#

athena call mvp

#

starting to learn his moveset a good bit more

lethal bay
#

For speedrunnig people say to reset when you see a certain thing (eg no flurry jab on achilles), but if I just press give up I get the same thing. How am I supposed to reset?

limpid ocean
#

die and it reseeds

#

is explosive upper recommended on gilgamesh? Trying ME run

mint coral
#

what are the other options?

#

explosive should still be great anyways

limpid ocean
#

the sturdy one and double kick

mint coral
#

just be careful cuz iirc it will also spread maim

limpid ocean
#

I took sturdy

#

I don't really plan to use special I just took this over demeter fists ebcause of the extra dash

stone rune
#

🗿

median knot
#

how do ik how much blood I have spent on an aspect or weapon?

stone rune
#

first aspect each level is 1

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second is 1/2/3/4/5

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third 2/2/3/4/5

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fourth 3/3/3/3/3

latent moon
limpid ocean
#

good pointer, thanks

latent moon
#

Second best hammer if you're good at gilga lmao

limpid ocean
#

do I call meg right before dash uppering at the start?'

latent moon
#

Yeah

#

It's a bit difficult to do iirc

#

At the very least you'll hit the fat meg on asterius I think

limpid ocean
#

NICE

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theseus isn't that hard in em3 anywyas

#

only asterius

latent moon
#

Oh if its em3 I think it's easier to hit both

#

The issue with the normal battle is the shield blocking the explosive upper

#

I think

limpid ocean
#

now I got explosive upper too

latent moon
#

This is all speculation and what I vaguely remember lmao

limpid ocean
#

2nd hammer

#

only compliant so far is that I got ME but hermes wouldn't give me GR

latent moon
#

I do know for sure you can hit both and it's not easy, but idk what makes it hard

limpid ocean
#

I just got doom to level 5 and then rare cropped it

latent moon
#

Hopefully it'll be rare before heroes lmao

#

Common doom is so sad

limpid ocean
#

yeah i got it right before asterius it sucked

#

he took another life off me

#

pray for patroclus

#

it's blue again and then got impending doom and the doom stack in back to back chambers

#

gg

#

201 doom damage

stone rune
#

just saw a reddit post

#

someone’s first 32

#

ri3

#

🗿

#

js3

#

🗿

limpid ocean
#

I think I saw that one

stone rune
#

cp2

#

🗿

mint coral
#

ggs but dusa

stone rune
#

dc2

#

🗿

limpid ocean
#

that was from 2-3 days ago right?

stone rune
#

cf2

#

🗿

#

18 hours

limpid ocean
#

my first 32 was em4 with heightened secuity

stone rune
agile basin
limpid ocean
#

lol TRUE

latent moon
limpid ocean
#

finally caught a sturgeon, I caught all the fishies now

agile basin
#

the KBM tag is for keyboard mouse players?

latent moon
#

yeah

#

oh apparently i dont have that lmao

marble whale
#

coronacht is fun

marble whale
#

controller better

agile basin
# marble whale L

buy me one steam pro contoler then
so I can play DS

cuz I will still be playin hades on keyboard zaglol

marble whale
#

steam controllers are

#

wonky

#

they have like

#

30 buttons

#

who needs that many buttons

agile basin
marble whale
#

cope

agile basin
#

but for real, I just prefer KBM on Hades for some reason

marble whale
#

what weapon do you use

agile basin
#

The one mother Nyx tells me to.
atleast for the last 300h, I have been playing only with the weapon with dark thirst

#

I really enjoy all of them, lately, the rail not so much, even tho I know its really strong

marble whale
true gate
#

I like that Hermes acknowledges if you have the speedrun timer on and lets you know it stops if you’re in dialogue or a menu

#

Cool little detail

stone rune
latent moon
golden crystal
#

How does one unlock the hidden aspect for the gun?

latent moon
golden crystal
#

Hm didn’t expect it to be there

#

Cool

marble whale
stone rune
marble whale
#

fair

stone rune
#

aiming with hera is still miserable

marble whale
#

yeah

latent moon
marble whale
#

dont really need one

latent moon
#

Like rail doesn't have aim assist either technically

latent moon
stone rune
marble whale
latent moon
#

Yeah I was gonna clarify

stone rune
latent moon
marble whale
latent moon
#

Lmao

marble whale
#

also i think it's the duo of aphrodite and artemis or smth

stone rune
#

what

#

heart rend?

marble whale
#

casts automatically return

stone rune
#

you mean

#

greater recall?

marble whale
#

ye

stone rune
#

why would u be getting gr

latent moon
#

That's Hermes legendary lmao

#

Which apparently isn't hard to get

stone rune
#

well

#

it has a 1% chance

latent moon
#

I've gotten it a considerable amount of times on plume zag sword

#

On pride

stone rune
#

idk man as

marble whale
#

be better

true gate
#

Plume seems to make it spawn quite frequently

mint coral
#

Plume counts as a requisite so you can see it from the first boon

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Vs normally where you only can get it from the 2nd or 3rd boon

marble whale
#

artemis is cool

marble whale
#

zagreus is hot

true gate
#

Cause he lives in literal Hell

agile basin
#

[joke about his feet being fire]

true gate
#

Objectively the hottest character is Lernie

marble whale
#

i mean he's got so much muscle mass

#

must store a lot of heat

true gate
#

If you’re going off muscle mass my boy Sisyphus is the GOAT

#

Guy is literally always working out

#

Bouldy also has loads of mass

limpid ocean
#

you mean Chadly

true gate
#

If you think about it Sisyphus is also playing a roguelike

limpid ocean
#

double nova breaching slash or cruel thrust on nemeis? On chamber 13 and already got heart rend

latent moon
#

breaching slash

limpid ocean
#

ty

#

world splitter dash nova or flurry jab?

#

I wanted the double dash one 😦

latent moon
#

damn they all kinda suck lmao

limpid ocean
#

already lost 3rd dd against lernie

latent moon
#

and actively hurt you

limpid ocean
#

sword be like:

#

I guess maybe world splitter because I have heart rend?

#

or dash nova because more generic? I have art attack and athena spcial

#

aph cast

latent moon
#

uh

#

world splitter and try not to do standing attacks lmao

peak carbon
limpid ocean
#

just got+119% dash strike from chaos at least

peak carbon
#

It does like 90dmg?

limpid ocean
#

yes

peak carbon
#

I googled it and apparently its booty but I love it

#

When you get nemesis sword and aphrodite attack with a big chop it's beautiful

limpid ocean
#

I died in elysium

#

couldn't get any healing past the fountain and it screwed me

#

should've had sd on instead of dd

#

new seed at least got purple art attack and dash in first 4 rooms, but another bad hammer choice

#

shadow slash

piercing wave

cruel thrust

latent moon
#

piercing wave

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at least that procs off dash strikes lmao

#

shadow and cruel dont work off those

limpid ocean
#

already took shadow

#

I thought piercing was regular attack only

marble whale
#

callie > marie

limpid ocean
#

okay so I got heart rend and 5x dash. Should I pay for the anvil in styx? Got super nova and dash nova (both special related hammers)

#

I'm thinking I should

#

double edge and the special double hit are good and cursed might be the only bad one

still python
#

i never get anvil with sword in case i get world splitter

limpid ocean
#

I feel that

#

I got flurry and shadow

#

still beat hades

#

I'm trying lucifer rail rn

still python
#

nice

limpid ocean
#

this weapon is so damn fun

still python
#

ew lucifer

#

personally hate it

#

fun but useless

limpid ocean
#

laser go brr

#

I understand why many wouldn't like it

still python
#

i like classic rail beter

#

even zag rail

#

always wanted to try me with lucifer though

formal citrus
limpid ocean
#

peer pressure spreads hangover every 4 seconds: is that only 1 stack or all?

#

I mean yeah eris rail is the best thing in the game but lucifer is still fun af

mint coral
limpid ocean
#

yeah I didn't

#

lmao that's awful

#

is dio or zeus attack better with lucifer?

mint coral
#

peer pressure will override your hangover stacks

#

so you are left with an overall weaker dmg

mint coral
limpid ocean
#

yeah I have low tolerance too with heroic dio attack

#

a few poms away from melt city

mint coral
#

nice

stone rune
still python
#

in my experience

#

maybe i got a really bad hammer then

stone rune
#

just get triple bomb

still python
#

cant be better than clockets

#

or even just cluster bomb

stone rune
#

300 base damage

still python
#

400 base damage

stone rune
#

it's not better than clockets but it's better in some ways for first 2 biomes

stone rune
still python
#

yeah but lucifer

#

whats the build for it

stone rune
#

eris

still python
#

huh

#

so like

#

zeus attack

#

tidal dash

#

arty special

stone rune
#

yea

limpid ocean
#

that's exactly what I have on this run rn

still python
#

how does zeus attack even work

#

on lucife

stone rune
#

uh

#

it procs each atk

limpid ocean
#

yeah it's better than dio

#

dio is really good on stuff that hits fast, except zeus is even better at that

#
  • jolted + splitting bolt is the best dps thing ever if you're able to get it
#

and sea storm / smouldering air shenanigans too

still python
stone rune
#

yea

still python
#

alright il try that build later

#

interesting

compact dawn
#

So, if I have a cooldown on a Fishing spawn of, let's say, 3 chambers just before Furies fight... The count will go back up to 10 once I enter Asphodel?

#

From the Wiki: "More than X chambers (non-inclusive, entering each zone refreshed chambers cooldown) since the last time a fishing spot spawned (see the table below)"

brisk trail
#

does smoldering air and hermes automatic call charge boon work together? tried getting smoldering air after getting said Hermes boon and couldn't get it :(

stone rune
#

quick favor is

#

not very good

#

though

#

if you have smair

#

quick favor charges like max 2% or something a second

#

smair is 5%

brisk trail
#

wanted to try the most spammy call build ever and was getting slightly concerned that I wasnt getting the duo

autumn rose
limpid ocean
#

Are some calls more beneficial to wait for greater call instead of the mini ones?

#

Also how fast is Athena call with smair?

dire tendon
pastel monolith
#

i had such a fun build yesterday
flurry sword hammer
epic attack speed from hermes
and piercing wave hammer
it was so crazy . never had a build like that before

#

also zag sword

#

it was madness.. just held down the attack button and it went so fast and shot a constant beam of those waves

lunar apex
#

does pierce from breaching cross do anything other than ignore shields?

stone rune
#

well that’s like 5% of what breaching cross is good for

lunar apex
#

sure, I get that the pierce isn't the main benefit of the hammer

#

but I'm still curious

stone rune
#

i’m pretty sure your dash strike already goes through enemies

#

so i’d assume so

#

if it doesn’t then it probably does that

gray apex
#

Goes through shields

stone rune
#

yea they said

pastel monolith
#

also extra 30 damage

#

i think its 30...

#

doesnt always hit tho im not sure i havent looked too close

stone rune
#

no

#

thatd be unnecessary

#

pierce and +900% armor dmg

pastel monolith
#

oh breaching crosss nvm i was thinkin about the wave thing still

pastel monolith
#

@stone rune u mentioned the other day that u dont consider usrelf to be like an expert or pro or somethin like that.. but im curious bc u seem like a pro to me. definitely a wealth of knowledge about hades..

what are some of ur PBs
like highest heat?
fastest time?
other achievements ?

if u don't mind sharing

stone rune
#

my highest heat is 50 with hestia achilles and beo

#

i have 5:27 beo 6:52 hestia 6:53 nem 6:59 achilles 7:11 hera 7:33 dem 7:58 zagsword 8:04 rama 8:38 arthur and thats everything i can think of

#

i did 33 boonless mirrorless

pastel monolith
#

u seem like a pro to me lol

#

33 boonless mirrorles???

stone rune
#

there are a very large number of players way better than me

pastel monolith
#

hestia shackle?

stone rune
#

yep

#

dont do it it sucks

pastel monolith
#

a true pro will always downplay their skill bc they know how good people CAN be lol

#

humble legendzagluv

#

u ever try any crazy stuff like hitless or fresh file

stone rune
#

ive tried fresh file

#

died

#

never tried hitless

#

although i did do a hitless tart once on hestia 54 heat attempt

#

but thats like

#

1/4 of the run

pastel monolith
#

nice

#

i tried hitless for a while.. more like damageless . i allowed myself athena dash and dodge etc

quick tiger
#

can someone help me out with thanatos? i've gotten him to appear nearly every single run, but the issue is, i can never give him nectar. he dips as soon as he can during my runs. and when he spawns in hade's house, he is talking to his brother and then immediately disappears every time

stone rune
#

u can only talk to him in the house

pastel monolith
#

ya u gotta gift him in the house, hes up near the records room sometimes

quick tiger
#

will try again

stone rune
#

sometimes hes talking to someone else

#

if so ur outta luck

pastel monolith
#

@stone rune roughly how many hrs do u have ?

stone rune
#

393.6

pastel monolith
#

what

#

that seems low

stone rune
#

i only got the game on dec 25 2022

pastel monolith
#

last i checked i was almost at 1000 and that was a while ago.. not counting when I played on other devices

#

see ur a pro haha

#

to be as good as u are

#

just bc ur not breaking world records doesnt meant ur not a pro lol

#

ur probably like top 0.01% of everyone who has played

stone rune
#

thats less impressive when the game has like 10 million sales lol

pastel monolith
#

ya haha

#

i mostly just play casually and try to get better.. if i focus on specific goals it can be stressful

stone rune
#

thats what ive been doing recently

#

except i also have been trying to sub7 hera

pastel monolith
#

im workin on getting better at em4

#

sub 7 would be nice. my pb is like 8 30 with hera

#

i cant even consistently get sub 10

#

but i gotta say.. since ive been practicing em4.. regular hades fight has become a joke for the most part

#

its so easy if ur just semi careful

#

depending on build and heat pact anyway

#

were your 50 heat runs em4?

stone rune
#

hell no

#

i suck at em4

#

i have the screens

#

lvl7 frost strike 🗿

strong ridge
#

jazz pro of black bordered screenshots

peak carbon
#

Em4 redacted with a third life

#

I hate him

latent moon
#

@deep scroll how's ember flare on beo?

deep scroll
#

It's pretty fun honestly
It doesn't open mirage shot so that's a big drawback but danger zone offers some dps too
Royal hearth is incredibly useful because it groups everyone at the same place, and it works on bosses too (seeing the heroes and redacted being forced to stand in one spot is very silly to see)
It's probably weaker than flood flare because no mirage shot but I prefer it anyways

latent moon
#

yeah i was looking at the damage and it does a little less than passion flare lmao

#

the burst damage at least

#

do you get the casts back immediately or are they just trapped as lava pools

deep scroll
#

Immediately

latent moon
#

oh that's neat

#

i wonder if mirage is bugged on the modded flares lmao

lunar apex
#

anyone have fun suggestions for sword builds? I haven't really had any success outside of just poseidon dash+double strike, which is kinda boring

#

I was hoping to get some different playstyle out of arthur, but I ended up just doing poseidon dash again, I'm not a huge fan of the slow swings

latent moon
#

unfortunately, all the swords want to dash strike lmao

lunar apex
#

well, I mean, that's fine

latent moon
#

could do a crit build on nemesis

lunar apex
#

although I just noticed that you can't hold down attack and dash to dash strike on the normal sword? but you can on arthur?

#

that seems weird

latent moon
#

oh yeah that's a weird thingy on arthur

#

you can infinitely dash strike with that

#

"infinitely"

#

but yeah i'd do a nemesis crit build

#

dummy high damage

#

when done right lmao

lunar apex
#

yeah I guess that's probably the best I'm gonna get

#

there's no way I'm gonna use the special every 3s

latent moon
#

well the standard sword damage rotation is special -> 2x dash strikes -> repeat

lunar apex
#

I feel like I'd be way too scared to special that often

#

it's such a long animation

latent moon
#

eh it's not too bad tbh

#

even on fo2

#

there's a funky dash special tech you can do

#

if you dash after you use your special you land with your special

#

so that'll get rid of the "animation"

lunar apex
#

oh

#

that changes things

latent moon
#

i mean even without that tech you can still pull of a special just fine lol

lunar apex
#

yeah but that's way smoother

latent moon
#

i've never had any trouble with it on fo2

#

i guess

#

idk if that messes with the dash strike cooldowns tho

lunar apex
#

this feels comparitively great

autumn rose
#

does anyone know what the record speed kill is on hades and where to watch it

#

i wud be very interested to see

stone rune
#

it's pretty boring

peak carbon
#

Idk how I'm gonna get the last skelly statue

#

16 heat was killer enough

latent moon
#

I made a 32 heat guide if you wanna read through that

peak carbon
latent moon
peak carbon
#

Tysm I'll look thru it and try 32 heat soon

#

Rn my thumbs are sore tho

#

So I might just watch YouTube

latent moon
#

lmao fair enough

#

a lot of struggles at lower heats can generally be solved by pact and build tbh

#

i recommend trying 16 heat again but with one of the builds and/or pacts i suggested, should be a lot easier

autumn rose
pastel monolith
stone rune
#

me on my way to ri4 em4 18 heata

pastel monolith
#

general rule dont touch ri..

#

if ur trying to climb the heat ladder for the first time

#

dont touch ri, cp, the traps one,

#

id say the easiest heats are a couple on deadline.. customs.. the one that makes things more expensive, extreme measures 2, one on forced overtime isnt usualy a big deal

#

middle management is fine

rocky lark
#

Just completed my first hades run lol

stone rune
#

nice

rocky lark
#

Completed using Stygius, Nemesis Aspect in 49:43 (that’s probably really bad but I didn’t have a reason to go fast)

stone rune
#

the faster ur enemies die the less time they have to hit u

rocky lark
#

Lit ty

still python
#

how to get sub8!1!111!11

latent moon
#

by being a big gamer (a lot of pracice)

still python
#

im doing all the stuff all the guides say but i cant do it

#

i swear its just rngs fault

latent moon
#

room routing? spawn manips?

latent moon
#

what aspect btw

still python
#

hestia or demeter

#

theyre pretty close

#

i cant do literally anything with any other aspect

#

yes, ive tried eris i cant go below 9:30

still python
still python
raw herald
latent moon
# still python how though

for spawn manips use the guide above
room routing kinda falls in line with this too, but more specifically it's knowing which enemies to take out so you get to those spots

#

you want to work from entrance to exit without having to double back, so you need a clear idea of navigating the room and through enemies

#

and manip/hope for good spawns

latent moon
latent moon
still python
#

total attempts

#

im pretty sure i have 40 or so escapes 😭