h1-discussion

[native blade]

Smh.

[latent moon]

i haven't done heat in a while so bballs haven't been too annoying yet

[mint coral]

Big thumbs + phone keyboard being weird so I'll rather just use short words lol

[tepid plover]

Soul catchers

Yeah it can

I've been lied to

[weak charm]

TRUE

[native blade]

What's ur fav?

[weak charm]

i did this silly chiron run where i got zeus special and it was really insane and funny

90% of my boons were lightning ones

in other news: i am HORRIBLE at extreme measures lernie oh my god

i lost two defiances

[mint coral]

Get lernie taxed

[native blade]

F. Ye, EM Lernie is lava hell.

[latent moon]

@stone rune is full combo legitimately never used on speedrunning arthur lmao

[stone rune]

go watch nalei

[latent moon]

because i figured that'd be good for like general room clearing

[stone rune]

shackle start means you use a lot of cast and speical

[latent moon]

oh that's kinda cursed

that looks like extra dashes no?

[stone rune]

where

on arthur if you do it right you can infinitely dash strike

because it has a built in cooldown lmfao

[latent moon]

oh that's interesting

i'll do that next

even in normal rooms huh

[stone rune]

it's just like

hold mouse1

let me rec

[latent moon]

i'm honestly surprised i got an 11:41 with like a typical arthur playstyle lmao

[stone rune]

takes some skelly practice to get down

[latent moon]

no need to record, i'll figure it out lmao

[stone rune]

i already did lol

[latent moon]

did you just have the game open or something

[stone rune]

they rlly need to just give us image perms

[stone rune]

it takes like 5 seconds to launch

[latent moon]

oh bruh it takes me like 5 seconds to get to the menu screen lmao

at least

[stone rune]

i have it on my taskbar

[latent moon]

i mean load time still

[stone rune]

i guess

the bigger bottleneck is the upload time

cause im downloading something and on vpn

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1106784400823308288/Hades_2023.05.12_-_20.23.56.03.mp4

[latent moon]

i'm not downloading that lmao

[stone rune]

wait that's so funny

if you special and then immediately dash

zag cancels the animation

but still does the special

so he just slams it out of nowhere

[stone rune]

this is why we need embed perms zagcry

but it's like

90 bpm

from my extraordinarily crude methods

and i assume u know about the dash strike holding m1 thing

[cosmic thicket]

ive been trying to get demeters legendary for so long

the games just not making things easy for me 😭

[latent moon]

yeah needing two tier twos aren't helping either lmao

you need to see her minimum 4 times in order to have a chance at it lmao

[latent moon]

i did not and i just tried it out, and you really just have to hold down m1 and spam dash huh

that's incredibly based

[tepid plover]

This might be obvious but gotta ask anyway, you using that mirror upgrade for better legendary chance?

[cosmic thicket]

yes 😢😢

[meager ridge]

aspect of hestia my beloved

[indigo matrix]

Just started playing Hades again after putting the game off for two years, its still hella fun

[surreal veldt]

90 runs, 40 clears, 1000 gamerscore and I’m DONE. Basically played nothing but this for a week. What a binge 🤪 see ya’ll for hades 2

[native blade]

I’m saying.

[thin hatch]

Just refreshed Hermes' offerings three times, got the same three boons each time, in a different order each time

[mint coral]

Wait did you record that

Rerolls usually block 1 of the already on screen boons

[thin hatch]

Oh really? Dang, I didn't

Playing on the way to the airport, so I'm not streaming anything

The rarities were different, if that counts for anything

It was the dodge chance, the recovery dash, and side hustle money one

[upper thorn]

yo, any fun dash builds?

[native blade]

Zagfist Plume Divine Dash/Tidal Dash?

[upper thorn]

ok thank you

[native blade]

Np.

[solemn echo]

I just finished a run (a run not being the entire game, I died at the area 3 final bossfight)using the rail gun which was definitely interesting
I went in on Aphrodite like I usually do and got lucky and found Zeus, so I got Smoldering Air before the end of the run

[fleet lance]

aphro for rail?

for secondary?

[solemn echo]

I just always go aphro

I usually use spear

[pastel monolith]

imo, hades gets better the more u play.. like after uve maxed everything and completed storylines etc.. thats when u can rly focus on getting good

[solemn echo]

Ik for rail using the Zeus special Enhancement feels grwat

Especially when I got the rail upgrade that lets me shoot three grenades in succession

[pastel monolith]

thats a fun hammer

droppin bombs on ya moms

lol

[solemn echo]

Yup

Also at the beginning I had gotten the armor piercing shots so. . .

[hollow violet]

I love Lucifer with Athena special. I just can't get over how fun it is, especially in Asphodel. "Oh, yes, please throw things at me! See what happens!" 😈

[solemn echo]

Yes I am aware that us only the normal shots. But get rid of their armor then KABOOM

[solemn echo]

Lucifer? Which weapon aspect is that?

[hollow violet]

Rail

[solemn echo]

Gotcha

What does it do?

[pastel monolith]

turn ur gun to a laser

[hollow violet]

It shoots little balls of light as its special. These balls pulse damage until they explode.

[solemn echo]

Oh gosh

[hollow violet]

With Athena, they become barriers.

[solemn echo]

OH NO

[pastel monolith]

lucifer special can be rly tricky to get used to.. at least in my experience.. i still cant usualy make it go properly

but it can be awesome, especially with the hammer where u can shoot 3 in a row

[hollow violet]

I can find my runs with it and screenshot if you'd like.

[solemn echo]

That would be dope

[pastel monolith]

i think the auto aim assist option maybe isnt ideal with the lucifer special bc its harder to shoot and trigger the special balls

[hollow violet]

I agree.

The laser honestly sucks and is hard to aim at all.

[pastel monolith]

sometimes it rules tho

supersoaker build for example

[solemn echo]

Do people use rail gun and basically just use the special most of the time?

[hollow violet]

With Luci, yes.

[pastel monolith]

typical rail mode is
zeus on attack
and somethin chunky like afro or arti on special

[solemn echo]

Gotcha

[pastel monolith]

also general tip if ur using controller.. remap the reload button to anything that doesnt require ur right thumb.. I use left trigger

[solemn echo]

Ye I can understand that

Thx for the tip

[latent moon]

Turn off aim at cursor, let auto aim do the work

Honestly do that with every rail lmao

[hollow violet]

I use a controller

[latent moon]

Ah

What range are you shooting at them then

Because the auto aim tends to not work at longer ranges from experience

Either that or it's the aiming function of like you need to look the direction you wanna shoot

I don't have a controller, but I'm assuming it's probably along those lines

[hollow violet]

Honestly, I probably just suck, lol.

[pastel monolith]

lucifer super soaker build is so fun.. its rly great especialy at relatively low heat.. ive never killed the tiny vermin so quickly

but its hard to get it going to its full potential even on lower heat

and its not exactly like mega damage

its just super fun with poseidan on attack, and a a bunch of extra poseidan boons.. if u can throw in sea storm too. omg

[pastel monolith]

probably , compared to more experienced players.. but not necessarily for where u are..
anyway.. its best to not compare urself to other players.. just focus on what ur doing and keep playing it will eventually come together

ive played like 1000 hrs in hades and i still suck in some ways .. its good bc i know where i need to improve

for example em4, im so bad at that 😫 or the charon fight

hades is so versatile

even guys like vorime.. incredible epic speedrunner legend.. he can do fresh file even.. but hes not good at high heat

or haelian for example.. like 3000 hrs in hades.. probably the most popular hades guy.. he can do like 54 heat but hes never done fresh file

it feels weird naming names.. im not tryna single ppl out or anything.. just tryin to show how even the best hades players ever have their weak spots and how hades has so many different ways to play

[mint coral]

huh I could've sworn Haelian has done fresh file

[latent moon]

I'm pretty sure he's done fftc but idk about ff

Tbf I haven't really tried looking lmao

[formal citrus]

What's fftc

[latent moon]

Fresh file to credits

So get 10 wins as fast as possible lmao

Fresh file is generally first run

Could do 2nd or 3rd run but it's timed by real time, so most try to go for very first run

[formal citrus]

Ah

I've done that! My time was a month and a bit I think

[pastel monolith]

its not like vorime couldnt do high heat.. im sure he could.. or haelian cant do fresh file clear im sure he could with enough time..

they just dont rly have interest in it or patience for it

i dont wana speak for them but it's something like..vorime thinks high heat is boring . haelian thinks fresh file is too stressful

everyone has their style.. even the best hades players we have arent as good as eachother in specific ways

for me personally i just make my own little goals.. i did 32 heat with each aspect.. i try to beat my pb igt with each aspect.. im tryna get good with different mirror settings, tryna get good at em 4....

theres so many different goals u can make for urself

and always ways to improve

[ancient hornet]

so

uh

trying to do mods

and it says it can't read my save data?

[native blade]

You make your own difficulty.

[void vigil]

try asking for help in the modding server pinned in #self-promotion

[ancient hornet]

thanks!

[near nymph]

Im playing on switch and for wretched broker its stuck on the first one as the selection. No matter what way i turn the joystick it doesnt switch selections

On what to buy

If there was touch screen for the game it would be easier

Wait hold on

can I set it so the right stick doesnt move on menus

Cuz I think thats the problem

On my left joycon it has drift but the joystick doesnt even work

[lethal bay]

How is Hestia Rail?

[stone rune]

very good

[thin hatch]

The hidden aspect for rail is very interesting. I like how the hidden aspects change up the whole feel of the weapon

[stone rune]

all rail aspects are good

very good

super good

luci is fun

i got a furies pb off of it

https://media.discordapp.com/attachments/771815559410876446/1103455972812398652/funny_personal_best.mp4

why does it never embed man

[pastel monolith]

its my best aspect by far. all u need is a good attack boon like artemis or aphrodite. and hopefully some chaos attack %.. maybe ricochet hammer if ur lucky.. remap the reload button to something good.. and just reload and shoot all day.. its kinda boring but its how i got my 43 heat

u need some kinda aoe too tho like tidal dash or something.. depending on hammers ur special can do the trick nicely

[stone rune]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1019DSLlyHwg7_oIiN3Il-NUYdHEbl783G7ZvstFSCD4/edit

[strong prairie]

I dont know if this is the right place to ask, but I want to gift a friend Hades for their birthday, but cant because of the region difference. Is there a reliable and safe place to buy Hades steam key?

[quick tundra]

Hello I have a question, I have merciful end, ares attack and Athena special, it says any abilities that can deflect activate doom effects, but that doesn’t happen when I tap special on an enemy

[stone rune]

they have to have doom on them

[quick tundra]

Like in general

Ok

[stone rune]

it just procs immediately instead of the 1.1s, or 1.8 with impending

[quick tundra]

Ohhhhh

[stone rune]

it's very strong if you get divine dash with it

[hollow violet]

Maybe a steam gift card or something?

[strong prairie]

It seems that will have to be. I have to wait 3 days since they only just got on my friends list ><

[formal citrus]

Hades is the reason I got a pro controller. Gonna send our joycons for repairs soon.

[stone rune]

i need a build to do

[hollow violet]

How about one for the magnet fists? I like Poseidon special. Reel em in, and knock em back!

[stone rune]

ok

[stone rune]

uh, apparently nyaanyaa actually got banned, is there a way we can ask to like undo that or something

[gray apex]

What for

Maybe the account got hacked or something

[fleet lance]

for any aspect that requires you to use to use multiple buttons, i like to use privileged status so i can get that 40% bonus dmg

chiron, talos

rama

[stone rune]

pstatus is a worse option a lot, it’s better on chiron and on some beo builds and that’s kinda it

[fleet lance]

it can work

[stone rune]

for instance on rama

[fleet lance]

athena dash with her secondary

that gives a status effect

also works

[stone rune]

assuming you have lightning special you’d need jolted and then maybe heartbreak strike to proc it

but that’s not permanent

and it also doesn’t work on first hit

[fleet lance]

same for poseidon dash with razor shoals

[stone rune]

relying on more t2s is often not festive

i understand liking the challenge of trying to build it in but part of the reason it’s a challenge is you have to choose worse options to get it

if you want to though and you find it fun don’t let me stop u

[stone rune]

whatever happened from here #h1-builds-and-combat message

[gray apex]

Oh they both got banned

[stone rune]

no anemone left recently

after claiming that modded is easier than god mode and saying arthur combo had better damage than dedge dash strikes

[gray apex]

Oh they just left

Oke

[stone rune]

yea

[gray apex]

Well they overreact at everything and wont take an inch of criticism from people who actually know how to play the game and have thousands of hours

Kinda unfair that she got banned but wcyd

[stone rune]

yea i feel like she should be unbanned she was helpful to new players for like 5 years and then got banned because of one person

[gray apex]

It doesn’t look like she’s in the wrong

[stone rune]

yea

[tepid plover]

Oh shis nyaamyaa is gone?

[tropic lintel]

hello, i have a question, what do i need to do to be able to use meg's doll against hades?

[gray apex]

Just improve your relationship with him and the npcs that give you said companions. Eventually he'll allow you to use them. You can check the wiki for exact requirements.

[tropic lintel]

i alrd gave him like 4-5 nectars and meg is maxed

and its been like this for quite some time

[tepid plover]

Just keep going at it

Eventually he will let you

[brisk trail]

oh that reminded me something, i couldn't use aphro's call against hades while there were foes around but it didn't work too

[fickle crystal]

Yeah that should be enough
4 heart with hades is the requirement iirc

[tepid plover]

Maybe talk with him some more

He's just busy, underworld and all that ya know

[fickle crystal]

Yeah it will happen eventually as you keep fighting him more

[tepid plover]

Reminds me how you need nyx for like 90% of the stuff

[tropic lintel]

bruh i beat him like 30 times

[brisk trail]

lmao

[tropic lintel]

am on a streak of 20

still nothing

[gray apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/841266682072530956/1107256415879442432/image.png

[brisk trail]

i'm strict with my nectars LMAO

[tropic lintel]

ohhh i see

oh only had 6 with skelly

ty

[rancid panther]

You're welcome

[tepid plover]

Bro I was giving out my nectar to the first person I saw

[rancid panther]

After skelly informed me to not expect anything after the first one, I said.
Well, now nobody gets anything

[tepid plover]

Well skelly also fooled us before

Silly skeleton

[brisk trail]

LMAOO bro idk ig i should start doing that

[tepid plover]

Now only bouldy is worthy of my nectar

[rancid panther]

I just got to that point.
That was a strange interaction

[tepid plover]

I've given more nectar to bouldy than the rest of the cast combined

Interesting that's the only currency worth after you're done

Would've been cool if the rest had a purpose

Gameplay purpose

Even if minimal

[rancid panther]

I still have use for all.
except keys, well, I still use to to buy nectar and other stuff

[tepid plover]

I'm in the 4 digits of everything

[rancid panther]

[tepid plover]

I think, if not pretty close

Except darkness, which I'm still getting grades

[rancid panther]

I beat redacted a few times, now playing for the rest of the story, after that, heats

[tepid plover]

Enjoy the journey, you'll miss it

Man if I could I would delete hades off my brain and play it like it wad the first time

No other game has made me feel what this game did

[rancid panther]

I have good news for you.
whispering
hades 2

[tepid plover]

You have no idea how much I can't wait

Everyday I come here hoping for news

[fleet lance]

best 20 dollars i spent

[tepid plover]

I do wish I played hades after the release, but I don't think I can't wait with hades 2

[fleet lance]

would be even cooler if they kept releasing more story

[rancid panther]

This was the first game I got myself for switch.
Basically the main reason I got a switch

[fleet lance]

but they'd need to introduce something like ingame currency to keep it profitable

[tepid plover]

Personally I would've preferred they kept updating hades instead of a whole sequel, but it is what it is, and I'm okay with it

[tepid plover]

Is called downloadable content

Do like an expansion

[fleet lance]

just do a full sequel at that point

[rancid panther]

I like radio silence.
Too many times you get exposed to content that will might be spoilers

[fleet lance]

i never liked those games where you have to buy the dlcs

[tepid plover]

Nah, as a roguelike, it'd be better to have more content in one, than half in two

Variety is the main selling point of the genre

[brisk trail]

give me

[tepid plover]

Trading when

[fleet lance]

hades 2

!!

nah im joking, its still supposed to be single player

[brisk trail]

lmao yea

[tepid plover]

As much as I wanted multi-player, I'm glad they kept it single player tbh

[brisk trail]

i can't wait for my exam to be over so i can play hades all day

[brisk trail]

mhm same

[rancid panther]

If the dlc is worth it (witcher 3 for example) I'll gladly pay.

[brisk trail]

withcer 3 dlcs are

[rancid panther]

But when content is cut from the game and then sold as dlc, that's when I have a problem

[tepid plover]

Well is the same as buying a whole new game tho, you have the whole game cut

It just costs more

I'm just saying this as a roguelike player, I'm sure any other way a new game would be better

Hades is still a roguelike after all

Well lite, but that's another topic

[rancid panther]

This is my third rougelike/lite game so far.
An amazing experience at every step.
Honestly, the only other game that pulled me so much was
RDR2

[tepid plover]

That means red dead right?

[rancid panther]

Yeah.
That game will always have a special place in my heart.
If we talked about forgetting a game and experiencing it for
the first time, rdr2 would be for me.
But hades quickly gets there as well

[bleak moon]

do u live on this server

[tepid plover]

Nyaanyaa did

[solemn echo]

About to start a new run and I want to put an aspect on the Adamant Railgun. It can be any except Lucifer. Which one is best?

[fleet lance]

hestia

but not if you dont have it maxed

[solemn echo]

I do not
this would be my first aspect on it

[fleet lance]

if you're asking about which aspect to start maxing, hestia is the best for the rail

[solemn echo]

Ok ik hestia is a burst shot but what does Eris do? I never got damaged by any of the special blasts

[near nymph]

Theres a cross save option?

[rancid panther]

#hades-faq

Does Hades support cross-saves between PC and Nintendo Switch?
Yes! Our Cross-Saves feature lets you transfer your Hades PC save data to and from the Nintendo Switch version. It's easy to use, and you can learn more about it from the Switch version's Cross-Saves submenu. Note: The Xbox and PlayStation versions of Hades do not support PC cross-saves like the Nintendo Switch version.

There's also cloud saves

[stone rune]

+75% global dmg for some time after standing in special

[near nymph]

How do I get the gun?

I just beat meg

[gray apex]

Buy the weapons available before it

Gun is the last one so you have yo buy everything else first

[near nymph]

I did

[gray apex]

Do a run

And die

To reset the courtyard seed

[near nymph]

With the glove?

[gray apex]

With whatever you want, it doesn’t matter. You just have to die in order for the seed to reset.

[fleet lance]

is it possible to get hunting blades when having beowulf?

[gray apex]

No

[fleet lance]

rip

[gray apex]

It would be something

[mint coral]

How long does slicing flare last again

[gray apex]

Like 0.2s

[fleet lance]

i was thinking along the lines of cshot with recharging casts

[fleet lance]

wait the dash?

its more like 0.5

[gray apex]

I’m just messing around. Slicing flare isn’t that great, it lasts a very short time compared to Slicing shot.

[fleet lance]

still has great dmg tho

suprisingly

[gray apex]

I mean it’s enough

Beowulf can dish out so much more damage

[fleet lance]

i wish there was a mechanic where you could test boons in the skelly room

[stone rune]

slicing flare as loaded cshot fodder

except just worse than base cast

[stone rune]

códex mod can work although it’s kinda funky

[gray apex]

Don't try it with Beowulf 🗿

[stone rune]

le sea storm

[rotund jolt]

hey so i saw some people doing hades monthly challenges online and i was wondering where i could find them. thought people in this server would know. i saw the monthly challenge rank but nothing else about it

maybe im missing something??

[mint coral]

Pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat

[stone rune]

they stopped doing them after they banned nyaanyaa

[rotund jolt]

ohh gotchu

[mint coral]

Reddit also had weekly challenges with random mirror-keepsakes-pacts too but idk if they do them anymore

[rotund jolt]

man

alright thank you guys!!

[latent moon]

I don't think they do lmao

I haven't seen one in a while

[latent moon]

In the speedrunning discord they do an aspect of the week if you're interested in that, although it's geared towards speed

There's still heat of the week and a category of the week tho

Heat isn't time based, category might be?

[humble willow]

i was like 2 hits of beating hades for the first time

[latent moon]

It do be like that

[mystic lark]

TIL that you can recall Achilles spear, lol

[stone rune]

the most useful feature ever invented

for when you really don't want that mobility and 150% bonus. shout out to sgg

it would be kinda cool if it still gave u the buff

because that might solve a few awkward styx situations where u cant special because it would put you out of the Good Zone™️

[latent moon]

Recalling the spear like you would on the other spears don't give you the boost tho so it's pretty useless lmao

[stone rune]

you can get multiple sunken treasures?

[latent moon]

Yeah

[solemn echo]

So
I think I found my favorite weapon
Chiron bow

I liked the weapon already and then making your special a single-target HP nuke when you want feels great

I even got the Special crit chance bonus from Artemis so I am feasting

[native blade]

Noice!

It’s nice ta see some Chiron love.

[solemn echo]

Ye I really like it

Like dash strike special is very simple and effective and overall I am just really enjoying it

Artemis is definitely one of if not the best boon lost for it

eSPECIALly the special boon

[native blade]

Indeed.

[solemn echo]

You fire off. . .
Ten shots?
Each of which having a 20% chance to crit?
Sounds dope

[native blade]

Hell yeah, if I didn’t suck with bow I’d go for it.

[stone rune]

Pos has shoals

[remote tiger]

I need help

[stone rune]

hi

[remote tiger]

I maxed out my bond with dusa yet I didn't get the thing beside her keepsake

[stone rune]

have you unlocked the locked heart

[solemn echo]

I will be honest
I don't care if something is meta
I like Chiron. And if I intend to stick with it, I shall

[remote tiger]

Ye

[stone rune]

what

[remote tiger]

Gave her all the ambrosia as well

[stone rune]

are you talking about the companion fidi?

[remote tiger]

Nope

[stone rune]

oh

what are you going for

[latent moon]

8 arrows at max level

[stone rune]

because all that you get from bonds and stuff is a keepsake and from some characters a companion

[remote tiger]

Just making out her bond

[solemn echo]

Oh
Did you mean poseidon the boons?
Because if you did I apologize, Poseidon was another one of the weapon aspects I saw (ik it is sword but still) so I am sorry

[stone rune]

yea

[latent moon]

One of the better ones yeah

[solemn echo]

Still
That's a lot of damage

[latent moon]

It's good yeah

[stone rune]

arty will work

[remote tiger]

I got all the hearts including the extra 3 after giving all the ambrosia but it doesn't show the bond thing

[gentle solstice]

quick question : what is hermes' favor so i can get max affinity on him

[stone rune]

it's all on wiki

let me see herm

[latent moon]

You have to talk to her one last time iirc

[stone rune]

oh

it's just

talk to hermes with level 3 plume

shrimple

[remote tiger]

I did

[solemn echo]

If I can get Artemis special and
Ares passive damage buff
Ooh I am already liking the thought of that

[stone rune]

urge to krill??

[remote tiger]

Now she just says her basic dialogue

[gentle solstice]

well off to do alot chambers with the plume

[latent moon]

Have you considered heart rend

[stone rune]

yea

[latent moon]

Idk what's the wiki say about it

[stone rune]

hunting blades chiron

[solemn echo]

I assume you are talking about Aphrodite's damage boosting weak-inflicting attack?

Ye I have that on the current build

[latent moon]

Heart rend Chiron is one of the better builds for Chiron

Urge to kill is worthless

It's like a 10% passive lmao

On a base 10 arrow

You're not getting much mileage out of that

[stone rune]

urge to krill moment

[solemn echo]

Ok

Does Heart Rend apply to the special?

[stone rune]

ye

[latent moon]

Why would it not

[stone rune]

heart rend applies to all crits on weak enemies

[gray apex]

Well that’s the point of going for it

[latent moon]

Inflict weak with attack and then have Artemis special

[solemn echo]

Oh
You mean the Artemis Aphrodite duo
Sry I thought you meant the one that just adds extra damage and weak to your normal

[stone rune]

same principle as low tolerance

[solemn echo]

Ye I am hoping to get that duo soon

[stone rune]

bananas i think i lied to you about the dad call

[native blade]

Why does it go down when the level goes up?

[stone rune]

?

because thaat would be worse

starts at 4

[native blade]

Autocorrect screwed me, I meant does.

Bananas said it was 8 at max level.

[stone rune]

yea

because like

normal bow has 9

and chiron at max has 8

[native blade]

Oh

[stone rune]

i think it used to have 9

idk

let me see if its in pathc notes

[remote tiger]

I just need to get the dialogue

[stone rune]

so like

what are your hearts at

[remote tiger]

Maxed

[stone rune]

oh

then what are you trying to get

[remote tiger]

The romance

Thing

[stone rune]

uh

idk

let me consult the wise

[brisk trail]

uh i have a question, ||why my call's against hades isn't working? aphro and artemis didn't work against him but dionysus did||

[stone rune]

wdym they all should work

weak has significantly shortened duration on bosses

but it still exists and at full call will do the 2500

also you don’t need to spoiler here

[native blade]

But what about the Artemis call?

[stone rune]

idk should work

maybe it tracked to a skull

[brisk trail]

i remember for aphrodite he immediatelly shielded up and said smth like 'no it won't work on me'

[native blade]

Ah, that’s just bad timing.

[brisk trail]

oooh

[native blade]

When his heath reaches a certain level he becomes invincible for a bit.

[stone rune]

can’t hit him while he’s bubbling

[native blade]

Around 50%

[stone rune]

or if he darknesses

[brisk trail]

lol sorry to bother you with that

tyvm!

[mint coral]

Axshually, thats charm

[native blade]

Nah u gud, this a place to ask questions.

[stone rune]

oh yeah charm

that’s what i meant

[remote iris]

hades is my favorite dad killing sim

[tepid plover]

Pretty sure he also does this after shortly after a call is used

[stone rune]

no

[tepid plover]

Maybe I'm trippin

[native blade]

Probably

[stone rune]

you probably think that because you phase him soon after calling

in p1 each phase is 1/3 his health

in p2 1/2

[tepid plover]

Nvm he becomes invisible not invincible

Got em mixed

[stone rune]

that’s just an attack

[tepid plover]

Consulted the wiki just in case, they might be tripping as well then

"During the first phase, he will disappear and reappear if Zagreus uses a Call, removing all status effects."

[stone rune]

oh

hold on

https://youtu.be/TNzQIlU-ZtI i used dad call a few times in dad fight and he didn’t darkness

[tepid plover]

My internet won't let me watch that at the moment

But was it it during first phase?

If so idk then

And was it em4? I know em4 changes things a lot

[stone rune]

no

some were in p1

[tepid plover]

I dunno then

[narrow hemlock]

wiki is not always accurate since it is community driven and relies on the community to correct errors. idk much about the ganeplay side of things so I couldn't tell you with certainty if that's incorrect or not but like. something to keep in mind

[dire tendon]

do yall think that dad call just caused him to repeat a darkness and that was just asusmed

or does it only work with like

charm

and stuff

since ive never seen anyone talk about calls causing darkness

[tepid plover]

Idk I never really paid attention to this, since by the time I use call the first phase is over

Unless I got that duo

[mint coral]

Dad call works the same as charm so yeah that should be able to happen

[latent moon]

dad call makes enemies repeat the last attack or something like that

so that might be why

but also yeah i'm pretty sure i've had other calls before and he didn't darkness

notably, smair

[stone rune]

yea

[tepid plover]

Favorite companion, ima start, shady

[fickle crystal]

Ngl battie is the first one I've unlocked and the only one I've upgraded and used
I've not used anything else so far even though I've unlocked the others

[tepid plover]

I've used every single one once, stuck with shady

Too much value imo

The hades voiceline always gets a chuckle outta me

Was that a blasted boulder from the sky

[gray apex]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/835377117616668692.gif?size=96

[raw herald]

Use shady with guan yu lc4 to heal inbetween fights

Wait shady is bouldy

[tepid plover]

Shady is the name of the companion

And yes, is sisyphus dropping bouldy on top of someone

[rotund dagger]

Ill answer you here better @tepid plover

1. Brightsword

• Swordman has an instant frame 0 attack without animation. Suddenly your hp gets reduced XD.
• He is also the only normal enemy in the game that can get out of the stunlock cycle for no reason.
• The last problem it has is that when you hit him, there is a chance that he will bounce off the screen for no reason, and he can hit you with no chance of reaction unless you are in dash Iframes.

2. Longspear

• When he jumps with the spear to hit you it can happen that he falls in a non-playable area, either water, the void or a bush, in that case the enemy makes retracking and jumps to where the player is, crossing the entire map if necessary to fall on your head. This can happen even in situations where you are not even close to him. This is predictable and controllable once you know how it works, but if it happens and you are not in Iframes, it hits.

Btw those situations are not intentional 100% and happens in every game you play. But is less noticeable if you play range weapons

In No-hit community we have tons of videos of those kind of problems. Just dont let those things happens on the next game becase we love it but is not posible to make no hit challenge since the enemies are not consistent ton Elysium.

[tepid plover]

i just associated those with my skill issue, good to know they are bugs xD

[rotund dagger]

No is not skill issue 😂😂

[remote tiger]

How can I use my companion in Hades fight?

[tepid plover]

keep playing, eventually youll be able to

or use shady like me

[mint coral]

If you have or skelly you can use those while he grants you permission

[tepid plover]

This authority requires:

7 hearts with one of the following: Megaera, Thanatos, Dusa, or Achilles
7 hearts with another of those, or with Skelly or Sisyphus
4 hearts with Hades

[remote tiger]

Ah thanks

[rancid panther]

You're welcome

[tepid plover]

like said above, you can use shady or skelly while you get this

[remote tiger]

Also how I get the dialogue with dusa after I've given her all the ambrosia

[tepid plover]

keep talking to her

[mint coral]

Rng

[remote tiger]

Ffs

[tepid plover]

welcome to hades

[mint coral]

I wonder if how the dialogue system works will be changed for hades 2

Prob not but at least a bit more priority on this soecific events lol

[tepid plover]

probably not, is a fantastic system tbh, aside from the few issues

[remote tiger]

When will Hades 2 come out

[tepid plover]

they do have a priority system tho

[tepid plover]

soon

[remote tiger]

I wonder what weapons we'll have

[tepid plover]

their priority system is actually what makes it a problem, you might not want what the priority gives you

[mint coral]

And you can see the millions of "X character ha all the requisites but they havent say anything in lots of runs"

Priority system is funny tho

[tepid plover]

well in most cases, they are just in queue waiting for nyx, shes in charge of like 80% of quests

[mint coral]

Got the talk for escaping the first time with achilles after the credits

[tepid plover]

lel

[mint coral]

Worst offender is Than tbh

Bc you need him for hypnos

[tepid plover]

dont you also need nyx in that one? xD

[mint coral]

Yeah but nyx is a constant at least

If you dont have maxed Than yet

Have fun if you wanna finish hypnos

[tepid plover]

luckily for me i wasnt rushing to finishing anything at any time, so everything just came naturally

awesome experience

[mint coral]

The dialogue for hidden aspects can also be a pain

Mainly fists

[tepid plover]

yeah i can see fists being a pain, also luckily for me, by the time fists was released i was done with everything else xD

[hollow violet]

Every weapon was unlocked easily for me, except the shield. It was just a result of playing. (I always go Dark Thirst.) I think I had about 130 runs before I came here and y'all gave me the key to the shield.

[tepid plover]

glad to meet another dark thirst enjoyer

[mint carbon]

I just beat Alecto with exactly 00:00:01 of spare time on the death clock

[stone rune]

btw it doesnt instantly kill you

it takes 5 hp every second you're over time

[mint carbon]

ohh good to know, still I do find it funny nonetheless

I'm on heat 6 coming back form a long break so sorry for my lack of knowledge

[stone rune]

np

just trying to alleviate some possibly undue stress

[brisk trail]

the description in pact of punishment doesn't help with the or else so thank you lol

[hollow violet]

I didn't realize that either. Only did that one once, and I barely made it. 😵‍💫

[winter mesa]

imagine carrying a baby for 9 months inside of you only for you to name it greg

[remote iris]

what happens if you get ambrosia delight and you only have heroic boons

[mint coral]

Nothing

[mint carbon]

does the rank that you can upgrade in Hades' room give any bonuses besides the badge next to your health?

[gentle solstice]

it does nothing

[mint coral]

Resource sink

[mint carbon]

aigh, thanks!

[cosmic thicket]

why is 32 heat like THE heat that people talk about being difficult or a barrier

[stone rune]

because it's the highest heat to have something tied to it in game

and 20 heat is just 0 heat

[latent moon]

bounties stop at 20, so people don't really have an incentive to go much higher
32 heat gives a cosmetic reward, and the jump from 20 to 32 can be pretty difficult depending on the pacts you take

also some people jump to 32 heat when their highest is like 10-15 sometimes lmao

32 heat is extremely difficult if you take certain pacts too

and then at that point there's not really an incentive to go higher than 32 heat unless you want to i guess lmao

but most people stop at 32

which is why you'd hear a lot about 32 heat and no other heat level i guess

[mint coral]

you also have 25 as the last bounty reward on hell mode

[stone rune]

25 is like 32 but without two of the required secret ingredients

[compact dawn]

Does Hermes count towards the Family Favourite damage bonus?

[stone rune]

yes

typically you get 25% FF by the end of a run, 4 god pool + hermes

[compact dawn]

And if I wash away all the boons of a particular Olympian, I'll no longer have their damage bonus

[stone rune]

yea

they stay in your pool though

[compact dawn]

Ahhh, that was going to be my next question

So, let's say I want to avoid getting Athena boons. In Tartarus, I get 3/4 Olympians for the god pool (including 1 Athena boon I get forced into) then I sell the 1 Athena boon I received at the purging pool... Will Athena stay a part of the 4 god pool? @stone rune

[stone rune]

yea

[mint coral]

Once you pick the boon is set yeah

[compact dawn]

Ooft

[stone rune]

so if you get stuffed into ares he will be taking that slot from an actually good god your whole run

[latent moon]

i mean to be fair, you're generally only looking for 2 gods in your build

[stone rune]

but theres always good supporting gods

and ares is the worst supporting god possible

[latent moon]

so leaving tartarus with a 3/4 gods isnt too bad

[compact dawn]

Yeah, I just want to avoid builds that give me Deflect or Impervious abilities at all costs

[stone rune]

wait

what

why

[mint coral]

Keep in mind you still can add more gods if needed

No hit prob

[stone rune]

oh

[compact dawn]

Because I'm practicing for Hitless/Damageless

Yeah, what Noob said

[stone rune]

you can use athena in damageless

[compact dawn]

True but I'm doing Hitless + Damageless

[stone rune]

o i see

you're not in the hitless server

[compact dawn]

Oops

[latent moon]

i mean only her core boons deflect right

[compact dawn]

I am in it

[latent moon]

her supporting boons don't really deflect afaik

holy shield relies on getting hit so that doesn't matter lmao

[stone rune]

holy shield

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1028112977100017666/1107883607546138715/image.png

thats thed onyl one

[mint coral]

What does damageless include
Chaos/traps/that well item?

[latent moon]

it's hitless so if you get hit that doesn't matter

it's a revenge boon

[stone rune]

yeah

[compact dawn]

What server are you thinking of?

[stone rune]

if your health goes below max

it is not damagelss

[stone rune]

Hades Hitless Sect

[compact dawn]

Oh cool, may I have an invite?

[stone rune]

sure

its mostly spanish

but they have an english chat

[compact dawn]

Yeah, I notice there's a lot of great Spanish hitless players

Like PatoQuackks

[latent moon]

holy shield is kinda based filler for athena if you're doing hitless/damageless

it opens up brilliant riposte, which is more filler lmao

is divine protection allowed as long as you give up the run as soon as the protective shield disappears

or like

if the shield never gets procced lmao

[stone rune]

if you dont get hit

then u dont get hit

i feel like it would be

[latent moon]

but yeah athena kinda sucks as a supporting god for damageless/hitless

[stone rune]

oh wait

no

you cant

Hitless Rules
– No deflect boons. This means you cannot use boons with the deflect mechanic from Athena. However, you’re allowed to pick one if you never activate its effect.
– No dodge chance (dodge%). This includes boons from Hermes, Zagreus keepsakes (Lambent Plume) or Ruthless Reflex skill available in the Mirror of Night.
– No damage nullifiers. Examples would be the Evergreen Acorn keepsake or blocking with the Shield of Chaos.
– No invulnerable calls. Specifically the ones provided by Ares, Athena and Poseidon.
– Taking damage from traps or lava is a hit; taking damage from Chaos gates is not a hit. Since you’re entering Chaos gates by your own account and the damage is not dealt by an actual enemy, it will not be considered a hit.
– Some Chaos boons have specific curses that will cause you to get hit, and as such, triggering them will result in an invalid run.
You should be aware of the following curses:
– Maimed: For the next 3–4 encounters, each time you Attack, get hit for 3–5 Health.
– Flayed: For the next 3–4 encounters, each time you Special, get hit for 3–5 Health.
– Addled: For the next 3–4 encounters, each time you Cast, get hit for 3–5 Health.
You’re allowed to take these boons as long as you never trigger their curse effect.
The Atrophic curse (which causes your life total to be reduced for 3-4 encounters) is not considered a hit.
– Price of Midas, much like Chaos gates, is not considered a hit.
– Staggers out of combat are not a hit.

[latent moon]

oh lmao rip

the only useful athena boon is proud bearing

[stone rune]

SMAIR BETTER

[latent moon]

yeah you dont say

[compact dawn]

"However, you’re allowed to pick one if you never activate its effect"

[latent moon]

yeah

like

[stone rune]

thats for defelct

[latent moon]

you can pick up phalanx shot but just never use it

[stone rune]

dp is a damage nullifier

[latent moon]

or like i guess if it never deflects?

[stone rune]

no

you can{t use them

[latent moon]

well that's kinda cringe

[stone rune]

why would u chance ruining the run

lmao

[latent moon]

because boiling blood

or like

[compact dawn]

Damn it

[stone rune]

i would simply not do that

[latent moon]

big cast hit

[latent moon]

i mean as long as it never deflects it's not nullifying damage

[stone rune]

huh

thats 2 different rules

[latent moon]

okay well

as long as it never deflects it's not deflecting (duh)

so it should be allowed imo but whatever

[topaz cape]

Kinda sad that my save from ps4 can't be transferred to ps5 but it's nice since I can experience it from scratch again

[prime obsidian]

so uh any tips for reaching the end? I always get hand cramps fighting the big boss

[rancid panther]

Find a good build you like, practice it, don't be greedy.
You have time so no rush to get hits in.
Learn attack patterns

[fickle crystal]

Yep I'd advise getting used to the patterns too

It'd get way easier and chill

[latent moon]

Dashes have iframes, any extra damaging input will cut off your iframes so dash strike and empty dash accordingly

[rancid panther]

Using weapons that put some distance between you
and the enemy will help, but not necessary.
I only use stygian so you can do it with melee weapons

[fleet lance]

always aim for good duo boons

the crystal beam boon from arty/demeter, hunting blades from ares/arty, mirage shot from poseidon/arty in combination with beowulf/hera

these are some of my favourite but there many more good ones

[rotund dagger]

I can invite you, since im mod there

oh wait you are already here XD

[rotund dagger]

You can use athena, but deflect is hit, so we dont play with her to avoid playing so slowly. Anyway we use some of her boons like starting with the call bar at 30% etc

but yes, we dont use to play with her on no hit

[hollow violet]

Before the game, do gamer hand stretches. (Can be found on the internet.) During, pause the game and put a hot pack on your hands for a minute or so to relieve cramping.

[fleet lance]

oh i forgot to add

you shouldnt be mashing buttons

you should try to save your dodges for redacted's attacks and go full in right after his attacks when he is in backswing

unless you're using the time limit pact, you should try to take it slow

and aim on dodging everything

[tepid plover]

smash buttons wins me everytime

i be accidentally dodging everything

[sour fog]

450+ hours played I still mash buttons

[rancid panther]

When you have 5 dashes...
Now that's a bit crazy

The amount of times I ended in lava was, a lot

[tepid plover]

nah i run single dash only

i dont like extra dashes

[sour fog]

madness

[tepid plover]

probably the only time i use my reroll is when hermes gives me extra dashes

[fleet lance]

skill issue

gilga dashes are where its at

[stone rune]

i love when my dashes have weird cooldowns and are shorter

[fleet lance]

gilga dashes with the chaos boon nerf

[mint coral]

I-frames begone

[median root]

Is the daily isaac run ez today?

[stone rune]

?

[tepid plover]

Lmfao

[peak carbon]

Got to theseus but he didn't say anything the whole time

Absolutely amazing

Best dialogue ever

[civic latch]

Theseus got a curse put on him

[peak carbon]

Good

I hope it stays forever

[onyx ledge]

😮 1,544 darkness from 1 run

[void grove]

i obtained the secret spear aspect and i think its dreadful

[stone rune]

it's good

#h1-discussion message

[tepid plover]

its unfun imo

idc about good or bad, it doesnt feel fun to use

[stone rune]

just get cskewer

its super fun

[tepid plover]

nah

ive tried everything to make it fun, cant click with it

[latent moon]

charged skewer makes it like weird hestia/bow so that's something lmao

quick spin kinda eh but can be fun if you like spin

other than that there's not much else going for it

[stone rune]

its the best MEspect

[latent moon]

i mean just because that's true doesn't mean it's more fun

[onyx ledge]

man that sucked, like 80% of the boons that run were Dionysus

[formal citrus]

Getting 80% boons from any God sounds like a good time

[dire tendon]

yeah but when it's dio who's boons have active antisynergy at times...

[formal citrus]

Afterparty is pretty good scaling for fog and for hang over damage. What anti synergy do you mean?

[formal citrus]

How is that?

[stone rune]

it's not fists and it's not ME sword

therefore best MEspect

[formal citrus]

I do not follow

[stone rune]

uh

its the best aspct you do merciful end on

[formal citrus]

I assume ME is merciful end

Right cool understand the statement, why is it the best for merciful end?

Is attack doom and special and dash deflect, like usual?

Are you sending out dooming spins and chucking deflecting flourishes through them?

[stone rune]

yes

[stone rune]

no

that would suck

it just like

1. actually deals damage before you get the boon

2. is fun

[stone rune]

not before the hammer though

[mint coral]

Hangover sources get overwritten by the most recent hangover applied
if you used dio call and inflicted the 5 stacks and next you use dio dash
now all your high dmg hangover stacks are replaced

(also why peer pressure is so bad)

you really only want 1 hangover source at any moment

[stone rune]

theres only 1 lots of dio build that might be kinda decent

i think

and it would be like

dio atk dem special ice wine eris

otherwise you only rlly want 2 boons

the core

and the low tolerance

[formal citrus]

Which hammer

[mint coral]

charged skewer

[formal citrus]

I am still confused on what the game play loop to trigger ME is on guan yu that is the best.

[stone rune]

special -> dash strike x2

[formal citrus]

Because alternating between moves is faster than spamming one move over and over?

[stone rune]

well like

the special scales less good

it'll stop doing superb damage in ely

you need something supplemental

because it's basically a lower damage hestia that you have to charge but it pierces and has mad aoe

and hestia scales into ely with the funny hammer

which GY doesnt have

[formal citrus]

Like, it erases all other stacks? If they're 5 call stacks and you hit them with dio attack they immediately are at only 1 dio attack stack and nothing else?

[stone rune]

no it replaces as it goes

but also yeah

its just mroe dps

[mint coral]

that would be 4 call stacks and 1 attack stack

[stone rune]

to special -> dstrike x2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uimm3d9Ce_E heres the sub6 for it

[formal citrus]

So what makes it the best is that is has a good thing to do between the ME dash strikes?

[stone rune]

because it's fun

im pretty sure its not actually the best

just way more fun than having to play a fists tart

[mint coral]

it's a similar argument to why use dem fists too lol
some dmg before ME

[formal citrus]

Ah

[dire tendon]

bp breaching cross 👀

[latent moon]

it's just that guan yu has better base damage so it can support itself better before you get ME basically

also charged skewer helps the damage a lot before ME is online

[formal citrus]

Does anyone actually use the special to trigger ME (maybe before the dash is gotten)?

[dire tendon]

probably, as you said, before the dash is gotten

also can you use GY spin as zeus lite

to spam proc ME with spec and dash

[latent moon]

for zag fists, demeter, and maybe talos and gilga, you can proc ME with a dash attack and dash upper in the same dash

zeus shield doesn't need ddash for ME to work

with sword, your standard special -> 2x dash strikes -> repeat can proc ME

although the insta-drop doesn't really matter other than the bonus 40 damage i guess lmao

[stone rune]

i would simply not do that

[stone rune]

how

[latent moon]

because the time for a dash strike, special, and then another dash strike is kinda long

prob more than a sec

or even 1.5 sec

[stone rune]

i mean

first off

you do 2 of them

[latent moon]

yeah

[stone rune]

you wouldnt get 2 procs off a rotation

[latent moon]

i never said you would

[stone rune]

and second off you dont get the impending bonus

wait

[latent moon]

you'd get a proc after your dash strike because of the special

[stone rune]

oh

i see

this is dashless

[latent moon]

[stone rune]

im illiterate

[onyx ledge]

[latent moon]

true

[rough token]

I can't think of a reason why it wouldn't be? I'm not a dev so I can't promise anything though

[stone rune]

dawg

[latent moon]

as long as it can get steam i'd assume it'd work

is that how that works lmao

[stone rune]

https://youtu.be/TNzQIlU-ZtI?t=463 the bomber experience

if they dont release it on mac i will send you 5 quadrillion dollars

[rough token]

they have a statement about platforms in the #hades2-faq , and I'd also suggest having discussion about it in #h2-discussion instead of here ^.^

[latent moon]

c22 moment

[stone rune]

man

im gonna get so many sub6s this summer

like

at least 1

i rlly wanna sub6 nem

also i submitted my nem run

so somebody gets to watch my divine resolution

i think if cgull reviews it hed just decline it

[latent moon]

have fun with that lmao

[stone rune]

and make a rule "you cant play in that ratio"

[latent moon]

i can't play the game longer than like 1.5 hours because i just get burnt out

[stone rune]

i mean

i play for like

[latent moon]

esp if most of it is resetting

[stone rune]

30 minutes at a time

except if im going for a Session

although

that might also be circumstance

[latent moon]

i figured if you're gonna try for a sub6 you'd have to put in a lot more than an hour a day lol

[stone rune]

because like

its kinda finals week

[latent moon]

i mean yeah after finals you can grind

[stone rune]

mine end tmr

[latent moon]

but that's a lot of grinding

[onyx ledge]

I've put in 41 hours in the last 3 days

[stone rune]

except the worst one is also tomorrow

[latent moon]

technically same

and also same on that last one lmao

[stone rune]

i got the calc 2 inal

if i get a 93 or higher on it im fine

[latent moon]

i feel like i also put in absurd hours at the start lmao

maybe not that much but a lot more than i do now

[stone rune]

yea i did

[latent moon]

oh yeah gl getting a seed for your sub6s lmao

getting shafted by bad rooms and boons is literally the biggest thing blocking low times at this point tbh

and also ely

[stone rune]

i mean

i also suck

[latent moon]

well for sub6 it's mostly rooms at that point

[stone rune]

so

unsucking will probably be more important

[latent moon]

skill > rng only matters until like say sub7 or 8

sub6 needs good rooms lmao

[stone rune]

well i still have to be decent to get the sub6

[latent moon]

i mean yeah

[stone rune]

im pretty sure that 630 i got would have been sub6 if i played it today

[latent moon]

but gl getting the rooms lmao

[stone rune]

ill just reset at the sight of a single bad enemy

whats the latest youve ever resat

[latent moon]

i'm pretty sure the 5:32 i got should've been a 6:xx if i had to play another aspho room lmfao

[stone rune]

did u not have hammer or something

[latent moon]

or like an ely room

[latent moon]

no i had a near full aspho skip

[stone rune]

i mean

[latent moon]

i just suck at aspho

[stone rune]

even a c22 is hard to be that bad

on beo

with hammer

[latent moon]

c22 big boi room

the uh

idk room names

the one with islands

[stone rune]

triple donut

oh

that one sucks

[latent moon]

or triple donut yeah

[stone rune]

but it's less cope

because you have a hope of clearing it

just go up

i got triple donut in my pb

[latent moon]

i've had aspho rooms take like 15-20 secs

[stone rune]

i thought i did it awful and then in the vod review nnevic said i did it perfect

oh damn

[latent moon]

i should get my 5:32 reviewed lmao

[stone rune]

i had c22 triple donut

https://youtu.be/4NEoJWOAXOM?t=488

it was like a two waver with like 5 enemies though

so yea

[latent moon]

oh yeah that's pretty clean

but like if that was witches

that's an easy like

[stone rune]

i would have just reset lol

[latent moon]

15-20 seconds minimum

[stone rune]

the times not that good

i didnt even have the green boon

[latent moon]

well you might've gotten it endshop

also rare rd

so like

[onyx ledge]

so do you basically need insane luck to get a time that low

[latent moon]

i'd see if i could get it at the end before lernie

and then reset if i dont

or play it out because blue rd

[latent moon]

at that point yeah

room and enemy rng are more important than skill at a certain point

[stone rune]

well

you still have to be good

[latent moon]

i mean yeah ofc

[stone rune]

its not like u can just suck and sub5

theres no seed that cracked

[latent moon]

my point still stands tho lol

yeah ofc you need to be good

but like

sub6 needs a lot better room/enemy rng than a sub7

[stone rune]

or being ocke

[latent moon]

or ocke yeah

i mean if it's beo it's more lenient on the skill i guess

[stone rune]

dawg what was i doing

[latent moon]

if it's hera or achilles then you'd need more skill

[stone rune]

thats like 3 seconds of time save

i do that twice in ely whatttt

[latent moon]

beo needs vague aim, hera and achilles are more precise

[stone rune]

could have been 521 if i wasnt garbo

[stone rune]

i mean

thats kinda only kbm

[latent moon]

that's true

[stone rune]

le 180 degree autoaim

[latent moon]

mood

if my tart wasn't 2 minutes that would've been nice lmfao

[stone rune]

WHAT

[latent moon]

what

i thought this was established

[stone rune]

were you actually going for sub6

[latent moon]

whenever i pick up beo i try for sub6 lol

[stone rune]

why did u nto reset.......\

[latent moon]

left tart with funny green boon

wanted to see how far i could go

also warm up run

[stone rune]

oh

[latent moon]

it was my first run of the day lol

[stone rune]

i didnt even have arty

i think i had sprint

[latent moon]

i think i also had sprint

it was like a c10 arty

funny green boon in endshop

[stone rune]

oh good urine it's 9 pm

[latent moon]

then got near full aspho skip

[stone rune]

whatever

[latent moon]

2 min tart? just get a near full aspho skip

[stone rune]

man that styx was cracked though

https://youtu.be/4NEoJWOAXOM?t=1030

i got no spindle??

ngl im more proud of the achilles dad i did

i was actually kinda gaming

[latent moon]

my styx was a little messy but mostly clean iirc

https://youtu.be/s49jVwc6rS8?t=963

oh my second chamber of styx was bad lmao

apparently i got a short first tunnel

based

okay it was like in the middle of above average and big boi gamer

[cosmic thicket]

I FINALLY GOT THE DEMETER LEGENDARY