#h1-discussion

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calm zenith
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Notably for the awful way up to that buildbouldy

latent moon
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yeah

calm zenith
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I think it's like 15 more base dmg than GY too

latent moon
calm zenith
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Yeah true

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Easier to build.

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But if you're climbing heat and just targeting a 32 heat on it then yeah it's an option I think

latent moon
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zag spear technically does more damage once you get exploding launcher and charged skewer, but also you gotta rng into it and do well until ely lmao

calm zenith
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It's already pretty good with exploding

latent moon
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yeah probably tbh

calm zenith
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Which is better first?

latent moon
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wdym

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charged or exploding first?

calm zenith
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Which hammer is better to get first

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Yeah

latent moon
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uh

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damage wise exploding

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rng wise no clue

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i'd assume exploding still, mostly because it'd invalidate a lot of other ones

calm zenith
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Yeah

latent moon
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like vicious skewer

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and chain

calm zenith
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Speed wise too because normal spear special is a pain to use

latent moon
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charged probably compatible with all

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yeah

calm zenith
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It only actually works on Achilles

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Which is slightly different anyway

latent moon
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charged only incompatible with achilles lmao

calm zenith
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Yeah

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Am I nuts for thinking Vicious is just fine on some Achilles builds?

latent moon
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oh yeah i was right, vicious and chain get locked out with exploding first

calm zenith
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I mean it can reliably trigger Mark

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I dont know how efficient it is but it seems just fine

latent moon
calm zenith
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Mid option

latent moon
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so like

calm zenith
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Yeah iirc it does

latent moon
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good second hammer i guess lmao

calm zenith
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It procs fairly often

latent moon
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although "good" is kinda loose considering that you never really think about using the special for damage

calm zenith
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It's just a base damage issue. I could see some sort of weird build working with idk

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Just tossing things out there, True Shot, Heartbreak Strike, Heart Rend

latent moon
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that's also true lmao base 25

calm zenith
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Mark of course

latent moon
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make the recovery have a higher crit chance

calm zenith
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I was thinking you use true shot tbh but maybe not

latent moon
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oh

calm zenith
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Deadly flourish and what

latent moon
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actually how does this even work lmao

calm zenith
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I guess a crush shot crit build?

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Rush through enemies then cast or dash strike them

latent moon
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isn't that just normal achilles

calm zenith
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Works with flurry or serrated

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Yeah but you use vicious to help proc mark

latent moon
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oh i guess marked kinda important

calm zenith
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That's it

latent moon
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on the other hand

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deadly strike lmao

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with flurry

calm zenith
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True

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But you could get even more crits and marks

latent moon
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like this feels like the same build idea but with extra steps

calm zenith
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Multiple can be up at the same time

stone rune
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vicious is fake on achilles\

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i'd rather have like breaching

latent moon
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i mean it's certainly a concept lmao

calm zenith
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Yeah thats all I'm thinking. It's just mid.

stone rune
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and i'm pretty sure they actually don't proc off going through

calm zenith
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And you could build something around it

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They do ime

latent moon
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so like

calm zenith
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Would need to check again to be certain

latent moon
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they should also mark

calm zenith
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But that's what my memory tells me

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Yeah same as Nemesis crits I imagine

latent moon
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oh could you just like

calm zenith
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Nemesis even just uses an alt colored Artemis eye flare

latent moon
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deadly strike, heartbreak flourish, heart rend

calm zenith
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Yeah

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Hmm

stone rune
calm zenith
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I wish Achilles worked this way with Athena

latent moon
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doubt it

calm zenith
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But Deadly Reversal

stone rune
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Second Hammer
To be honest none of them make that big of a difference so it's not even worth going for. Mostly go for it if you are offered it against Poms that you don't need, Gods you don't care for, or non-menu reward before seeing Than.

Extending Jab: Happy to see it on Artemis build.
Triple Jab: Adds AOE which makes grouping enemies easier. Probably better than Extending Jab on Zeus build.
Serrated point: Reset
Other: Does not matter.

latent moon
calm zenith
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I know that the rush doesnt deflect though

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Yeah

latent moon
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athena dstrike on spear kinda big tho

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so maybe that

calm zenith
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Rush doesnt deflect

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Yeah I just did a GY DR run

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Athena attack and serrated

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It's fun. Also had deadly flourish and charged skewer

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Tdash

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So well balanced

latent moon
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serrated kinda cursed but fair lmao

calm zenith
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I wanted it

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I almost started with relentess

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I wasnt getting what I wanted though and changing dash changes rng

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I got really lucky with Artemis and got 3 of her boons in Elysium when I kept her keepsake on.

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Never replaced tdash with hdash though

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Kinda wanted that

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Better scaling because I didnt get hyperrush I think. Just 30% rd

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Also regarding breaching skewer, Artemis has a boon you could end up with that basically covers that on Vicious.

upper thorn
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i love my rng these days

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i got cluster rocket 5 runs in a row

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and the last one i didn't even get it

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it got rocket and targeting

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then i rolled the anvil

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and got cluster and seeking fire

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wtf

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it was one of my worst run

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then it turned out to be OP in styx

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finally

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heat 30

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for eris

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Took me long enough

mystic lark
native blade
mystic lark
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Hm. Curse of longing + hangover would be a nice damage over time build

white path
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When you meet chaos 3 times, with their egg, and spend 6 reroll dice, and you still don't get offered their defiance

mystic lark
white path
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I've seen it literally 0 times in my last 75 runs (all of them)

mystic lark
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Do you use that mirror talent that increases legendary rng?

white path
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yes

mystic lark
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Then it is up to luck. May the rng gods be with you

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If you are bored, you can install mods and make chaos appear literally every room. Lots of curses, lots of perks. Its fun. :D

white path
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Zagreus zigged instead of zagged
Call him Zigreus

mint coral
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Btw Chaos goes by they

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Older than pronouns and all of that

native blade
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Yep yep.

white path
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my mistake

mystic lark
native blade
mint coral
mystic lark
# mint coral Btw Chaos goes by they

I know, it's just hard to keep in mind - in russian there is no neutral pronoun. Well, technically there is, but it is reserved for objects. If you called a person with that pronoun it would be hella rude. And default is masculine. 6_9

mint coral
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As someone who's first language is spanish I feel you

native blade
mint coral
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Tho in my case it was countered by how much time I spent in english speaking servers TowaSip

mystic lark
# mint coral Heroic dio call šŸ‘€

Yeah, I got a demeter boon that resets rarity and upgrades it every 4 encounters. Got it early, so it upgraded both my attack and special. And call to, which is also nice

native blade
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Noice.

mint coral
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Also what weapon is this

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It feels like rama somehow

mystic lark
mystic lark
# mint coral Also what weapon is this

Poseidon sword. But I am using it as a regular sword - was interested in how long would a run with a sword take without relying on casts. And forgor to swap aspects :D

mint coral
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Lol happens

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Is fine you are just being accurate to how soeedruns play it

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(says someone who doesnt know whats the current pos sword record)

fleet lance
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is there some additional hidden pre requisite for rip current?

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i have lost count of how many runs ive done trying to get it

mint coral
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No just pos call

mystic lark
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Poseidon aid only as I could tell

mint coral
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The issue is that the call doesnt only open that

mystic lark
potent swallow
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i just got my wisdom teeth removed an hour ago, so im gonna see if i can finally complete a full run since ill be bed ridden all weekend

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wish me luckdusa

latent moon
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Use Skelly's tooth at the end for symbolism

potent swallow
hardy spear
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probably the wiki

brisk trail
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when hades 2

latent moon
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Yesterday

mint coral
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Soon

brisk trail
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real

mystic lark
weak charm
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i dont fully understand gilgamesh but

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in getting decent with it

latent moon
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you get more dashes but they're shorter and on a longer cooldown

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and there's a delay on your dash strikes

native blade
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What's ur best weapon so far?

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Also, u have Ruthless Dash rii?

calm zenith
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Gilgamesh also has stronger but slower strikes

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Standing strikes

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So you shouldnt just build it the same as other fists necessarily.

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Something like Divine Strike is excellent on Gilgamesh

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Deadly Strike could work

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But your dash strikes are very weak and more in line with like, filler for stacking stuff.

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I've done Frost Strike builds to decent effect too, because it can use the % but also stack chill rather well.

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If you do Thunder Strike probably aim for Tidal Dash to cover damage, too

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If you just want the meta dash build do Merciful End

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Curse of Agony > Divine Flourish > Divine Dash/Merciful End

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Just dash strike spam

mint coral
weak charm
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i mean thats why you get five dashes

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i got Exclusive Access on styx

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im so mad

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YO???

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REDACTED JUST LEFT ME PASS??

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I WAS NOT GONNA WIN THAT THANK GOD FOR THAT šŸ™

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i just beat the game!!!

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ā€¦.i just beat the game ):

latent moon
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10th win moment

weak charm
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kinda sad its over but

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god this game is SO GOOD

native blade
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Nobody tell em.

weak charm
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whar

latent moon
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There's more lol

weak charm
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lesgo

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doing the postgame immediately

latent moon
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It's alluded if you remember what Persephone said lol

native blade
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ā€¦

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Bro, cā€™mon.

latent moon
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What

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It's not obvious at all

weak charm
latent moon
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sounds about right

weak charm
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there any postgame bosses perchance?

latent moon
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play and find out lmao

weak charm
weak charm
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dont ever trust someone who doesnt always take refreshing nectar

royal widget
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but what if i want rare instead of common

weak charm
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lucifer isā€¦interesting

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i think its the hidden aspect that is the least different to its weapons other aspects

stone rune
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it's the only hidden aspect which isn't "slower hit more damage"

weak charm
stone rune
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it has a more interesting gimmick imo

weak charm
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cant even really tell what its gimmick is tbh lol

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its got a high firerate attack and a aoe explosion special, its almost too close to the reg aspects imo

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but its a little variety from the other hidden ones so its kinda neat i guess?

latent moon
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like all the hidden aspects

latent moon
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get triple bomb, then win

stone rune
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it's like if you got 75% of clockets but on your first hammer

latent moon
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what's luci wr time compared to eris btw

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or bad-eris zag rail

stone rune
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i think most of the wmic rowos have luci and eris similar?

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idk igt

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eris is 504 modded

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luci is 527

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blue rd kinda gud

latent moon
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5:37 bad eris zag rail

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wait

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yeah that's right

weak charm
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now that i have every aspect gonna try to level the cool ones up

native blade
weak charm
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gonna do hestia and demeter because at their current state theyre a little mid

native blade
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Bruh.

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Arthur's good, just beat Charon with it.

stone rune
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ā€œgoodā€

native blade
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Apparently me elaborating was a no-no word.

weak charm
mint coral
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arthur comfy

native blade
weak charm
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the only problem i have with arthur is that im bad with its special

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other than that, neat aspect

mint coral
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arthur aura is just set and forget tbh

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unless you hate traps then you always place the aura near those

surreal veldt
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Pretty happy with 5 clears from my first 20 runs! Gonna have to try the bow soon though šŸ¤”

latent moon
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always dash strike with the bow, it'll charge faster and makes it more like a rhythm game

surreal veldt
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Tried ā€˜lots of Zeusā€™ on the spear and it took my PB from 37 mins to 22ā€¦ beastly

latent moon
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a lot of people dont like the bow until they realize dash strikes are good on it lol

latent moon
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zeus boons compliment each other very well

calm zenith
mint coral
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idc, its funny

calm zenith
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Neither can lots of things. It's not for damage.

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It's for effects.

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Special is faster in tart anyway

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Unless you get an attack immediately in which case the dash strike problem is fixed

latent moon
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but also lightning strike and a high rate of fire fixes that problem

mint coral
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non zeus/beo special too i think

stone rune
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ok but why would u actually use the special

royal widget
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long range

stone rune
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long range prickle

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you can stab someone with a nail or throw it at them but throwing it at them is gonna do a lot less damage

latent moon
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maybe throw it better

stone rune
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that's what zag does when u give him zeus

calm zenith
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Like a single bullet

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Just did a fun Deadly Strike/Pdash run with it. Pdash start with natural Artemis.

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Pdash isnt really used for its raw damage much but I got it to 75 base with 50% HyperRush

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Build worked though I didnt get Heart Rend until Styx. Barely mattered.

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I got a nearly 1000 attack crit

mint coral
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I wonder what's the lowest base dmg weapon

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prob lvl 1 Zeus shield

calm zenith
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Pretty good from a 40(?) base strike

mint coral
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does like 8 iirc

calm zenith
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Rama special?

mint coral
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wait how much does an arrow from that do

calm zenith
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5 or 10 I forget

mint coral
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ah yeah wiki says 5

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I def wouldn't have noticed that one

stone rune
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oh gilga?

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60

calm zenith
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Damn gilga is 60 base on each strike?

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So really it's pretty good with Deadly

stone rune
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not particularly

calm zenith
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Aoe too

stone rune
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hestia is 150 base and not too good with arty atk

calm zenith
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Worked pretty well

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Because it's not rapid

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Gilga is rapid and solid base

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High base really

stone rune
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""""""rapid"""""

calm zenith
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Dash strikes can also just proc mark for you

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It's like 15% slower than normal fists

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A fast aspect

stone rune
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there is literally no way

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yeah no

calm zenith
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How much is it

mint coral
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gilga is just heavy knuckle basically

calm zenith
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Yeah but with aoe and dash stuff

stone rune
calm zenith
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Its fast attack wise

stone rune
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it's about the same delay as delay between first and second of spear attack combo

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which is pretty slow

latent moon
stone rune
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it is fast dash strike wise

daring yacht
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Does the hammer change its upgrades depending on aspects?

stone rune
calm zenith
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Gilga just mixes both is my point

stone rune
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like

calm zenith
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It's not a waste of a dash if you use it right

stone rune
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on habespere you cant get flurry jab

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so it sucks

calm zenith
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It doesnt suck its fine

daring yacht
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And what can you get from like Beowulf?

stone rune
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there's like

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is it unyielding defense?

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it might be unyielding defense

calm zenith
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The special hammer is bad on Beo pretty much

stone rune
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yeah unyielding defense

mint coral
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is decent but hyper sprint exists

calm zenith
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Yes something like that. You get sturdy for 3s after loading a cast

stone rune
calm zenith
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Hyper sprint doesnt always appeat

daring yacht
latent moon
mint coral
calm zenith
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You should be cycling casts constantly

stone rune
calm zenith
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So it should always be up

daring yacht
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Damage reduce seems pretty good

stone rune
calm zenith
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You can just block on Beo

mint coral
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Rama deserved a better unique hammer tbh

stone rune
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yea

calm zenith
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Yeah

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It used to have good ones. The ricochet used to be a hammer.

mint coral
calm zenith
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Then they buffed it

daring yacht
latent moon
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just hit through the shield 5head

calm zenith
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It's always been reliable ime

stone rune
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make the share be like 90% instead of 60%

daring yacht
stone rune
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beo block is so weird

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anyone got the pie chart

daring yacht
latent moon
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it has a wider block angle than the other shields

daring yacht
calm zenith
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And the angle is weird

stone rune
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yeah but it's only on one side lmfao

mint coral
daring yacht
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Iā€™ve not gotten it yet

mint coral
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Thats beo

latent moon
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beo moment

stone rune
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dont get it

daring yacht
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That

stone rune
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beo sucks

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worst aspect

daring yacht
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Is

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Weird

calm zenith
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Yeah the giant Satyr often shoots me through it

latent moon
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it's not practical considering you never wanna block from the side, and you never really keep that in mind

mint coral
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Normal shields

stone rune
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normal ones arent cent4ered either??

calm zenith
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Next up: deadly reversal gilga

daring yacht
mint coral
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Their next run

calm zenith
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I'm trying crit builds on gilga

latent moon
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bruh i decided to do a lightning phalanx run on pos and i get a natural ares

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i hate this game

calm zenith
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Lmao

stone rune
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give up and go GY

calm zenith
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I get that all the time

stone rune
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lol i just got a tdash start on sdhackle nem

calm zenith
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I basically avoided smair a run or two ago

latent moon
calm zenith
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Because I wanted to lean into thunder dash more

latent moon
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battle rage time

stone rune
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are you doing unm

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are you doing allspects sub10???

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just do allweps sub8 much more fun except for fists

latent moon
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i need 8 more

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and like most of them are ME aspects

stone rune
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fists?

latent moon
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yeah

stone rune
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id just do zap fists

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good enough for a sub10

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and not painful like ME

mint coral
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Is fists so its gonna be painful anyways

latent moon
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zag sword, talos, pos, and zag fists all seem like straight forward "grind for ME" unless i wanna do like lightning phalanx pos sword
zag spear and hades are prob also ME but spear is cringe
arthur is pain
gilga is pain
chiron is pain but seems more doable

mint coral
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Might as well spice it up

latent moon
stone rune
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are you doing it modded?

latent moon
latent moon
stone rune
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oh

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modded sub10 is free

latent moon
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"free"

stone rune
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just start shackle and pick up whatever

latent moon
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i still need to learn arthur and gilga

royal widget
stone rune
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i got a zagsword sub9 off shackle start

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i think

mint coral
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I dont think I even have fists sub 10

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The one I got doesn't count cuz I was messing with the fusion aspects

stone rune
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omg

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i just got the FUNNIEST INSTAPHASES EVER

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AND I WASNT RECORDING

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WHYTYYYYY

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WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

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I HATE THIS GAME

weak charm
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gonna try hades aspect and hope i get the daedalus enchantment that lowers spin cooldown

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if not its unplayable (half joking)

mint coral
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Hades spear would be way more fun if the debuff applied to the spin attacks

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At least it has massive spin for comically large attack

weak charm
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i always love weapons that mimick a bosses moveset

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truly makes me FEEL like hades

mint coral
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then dad goes on and copies achilles spear move

weak charm
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he does that???

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is that an extreme measures attack?

mint coral
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Yeah

weak charm
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neat

mint coral
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He just yeets the spear and dashes to it

weak charm
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rad

mint coral
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It also hurts like hell

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And if you try to point blank block that chances are its gonna hit you anyways

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So that's fun

stone rune
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LOL?????

weak charm
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finally got every aspect. woo.

stone rune
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ice wine is insane zawg

weak charm
stone rune
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whats wrong with pos lol

weak charm
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its lame!

stone rune
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zagsword is objectively lamer

weak charm
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oh i forgot about the zag aspects

stone rune
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and frankly nem is lamer

weak charm
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nvm my least favorite aspects are all the zag ones

stone rune
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arthur is lamer

weak charm
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and THEN poseidon is just above them

weak charm
stone rune
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i mean like

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one of them has an interesting gimmick

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taking the stones

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nem is just

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q -> crit

weak charm
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and its fun!!

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poseidons cast damage buff is kinda cool but

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its main gimmick is incredibly lame

stone rune
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i mean conceptually

latent moon
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crit kinda funny

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well tbf zag shield isn't appealing

stone rune
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im ngl

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zag shield is super boring

latent moon
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and neither is zag rail unles you get spread fire

latent moon
stone rune
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and also not that gud with the funny hammer

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well

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it's good because it has the funny hammer

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but very little about it is distinct from the other one that takes that funny hammer and is like ti

latent moon
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do a pulv blow zag shield run

stone rune
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why

weak charm
latent moon
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because more base damage

weak charm
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having a silly gimmick > stat buffs

stone rune
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look at this old pb of mine lol

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this is from march 4th

latent moon
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gotta get spread fire tho

latent moon
stone rune
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i wanna grind it

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i will after finals

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i hate finals

latent moon
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do it now instead of finals

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called priorities

stone rune
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i wanna go back in time and kill the romans so that there is no more spanish

latent moon
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aight i'm no history expert

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but

weak charm
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the anmo increase for gun is pretty neat though

latent moon
stone rune
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ok so like

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google spanish language family

latent moon
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indo european right

stone rune
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oh

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hold on

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languaaaage

latent moon
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oh right it's under romantic languages isnt it

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yeah that's fair

stone rune
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romance

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yea

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they dont have names for the levels that are relatively ehhh consistent like in taxonomy

latent moon
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man pulling out ap human geography knowledge out of my ass from like 5 years ago hell yeah

stone rune
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i could also go back and kill the italians theoretically

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i took aphg 2 years ago

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that teacher was awful but also pretty good

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spanish teacher is just awful

latent moon
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my hug teacher was great, i was just bad at the class but i got a 4 somehow lmao

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also like everyone failed the language test so that was funny

stone rune
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i got a 4 i think

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maybe a 3 idk

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got a 5 on calc though

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and on psych

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ap exams are fake though

latent moon
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gahdamn

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true

stone rune
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and also none of that counts cause im a freshman again

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well i guess the ap scores still exist

latent moon
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the only useful ones are calc, chem, and a language

stone rune
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physics:

latent moon
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only if it was calc based physics

stone rune
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idk i mean ap exams are just rlly ez

latent moon
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otherwise, colleges dont care if you took ap physics lol

stone rune
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collegeboard is literally so fake

latent moon
#

well you got a 5 in calc, you should've taken calc based physics ap test

latent moon
stone rune
#

i had to take the psat for sophomore year and i just didnt care and didnt study for it and got highest of my year

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and i had to take the sat for something idk in like october

#

man that was cold

latent moon
#

collegeboard is fake and a scam

stone rune
#

wait what did i even get on the sat

latent moon
#

SATs aren't a thing anymore iirc

#

so that's fun

stone rune
#

oh it was psat

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oh i got a 1490

#

i get so much junk mail now

stone rune
latent moon
#

something something covid or something

stone rune
#

but yeah psat math part made me lose faith in the united states high schooler's mathematical prowess

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because that was like middle school level

latent moon
#

they were already considering getting rid of it before covid, and then covid hit and then they got rid of it completely iirc

stone rune
#

wher u see htis

latent moon
#

from what i remember years ago

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or last year idk

stone rune
#

damn

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years ago includes covid years now

#

thats kinda weird

latent moon
#

yeah lmao

native blade
#

Sigh..

calm zenith
#

Trippy Excal?

#

You going for max move speed reduction?

native blade
#

Itā€™s fun.

#

Plus I got Dash Nova too so Iā€™m hopscotching on em.

stone rune
obsidian linden
#

Hello

#

Do Artemis really helpfull ?

native blade
#

Extremely.

stone rune
#

she doesnā€™t have the pure additive for a slow attacking build so youā€™ll get inconsistency

obsidian linden
#

Critical Hit doesn't seem very useful

stone rune
#

she shines in relatively quick and pretty high base damage weapons

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flurry jab achilles, double edge sword

obsidian linden
#

More chance to have crit

#

She's brocken on the rail gun ?

native blade
stone rune
native blade
#

^

stone rune
#

arty special is the best special

#

for high base damage

#

specifically rail

#

no other weapon is like clockets

obsidian linden
#

But for now, with my stygian blade...

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Just farming or hoping the run start with a miracle

stone rune
#

on sword arty attack is definitely money

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but like

#

a really easy ā€œbuildā€ for sword is just starting poseidon and taking his dash

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and then finding percent based attack and special boons

fleet lance
#

does deflecting an attack with athena dash count as near miss for ruthless reflex?

surreal veldt
#

Does a dash into power shot count as a dash attack for the bow?

native blade
#

Lil bro dropped something.

mystic lark
#

=_=

native blade
mystic lark
native blade
#

OHHHHH

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OHHH NOOOO

#

That can happen?

mystic lark
#

Yuuup

rancid panther
#

I hate ||witches circle|| so damn much

mystic lark
limber ether
#

wtf I'm so rusty I lost a low heat run, no challenges or anything

mint coral
#

Ofc deflect makes it a joke but still

royal widget
#

does witches circle have the same spawn chances as power couple?

latent moon
#

It's 1/3

royal widget
#

weird

mint coral
#

Modded I think circle is more likely

latent moon
#

Barge, couple, and circle

#

Yeah I think so

mint coral
#

Bc it replaces barge

latent moon
#

Yeah that's what I heard

royal widget
#

i've rarely gotten circle that's weird

compact dawn
#

I just got the best possible Lucifer run by following your advice:

  • Hammer upgrades: Triple Bomb, Greater Inferno
  • Mirage Shot w/ Flood Shot
  • High level Poseidon Call with the Boon that pulls enemies towards you
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I absolutely melted everything

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Just spamming triple bomb and letting the enemies soak in radiation damage

#

Good times

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Only prophecy left now is Charon who I suck at fighting right now

mint coral
#

rip current runs my beloved

rose escarp
#

tfw you think youā€™re starting to get good at the game, and then die to asterius and hades 4 runs in a row zagsad

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skill issues

hollow violet
#

At least it wasn't to that jerk Theseus!

mystic lark
#

She just pisses me off. Meg admits your strength after several defeats, Tis gets progression with learning your name, but Alecto is just awful until the end =_=

native blade
#

She hot tho.

calm zenith
mystic lark
#

Nah. Meg is hot. Alecto is just a b-word

native blade
#

Lel.

stone rune
#

rama is literally so hard

#

looking at timer in c28 and it's higher than my pb zagcry

mystic lark
#

I know why I dont like hera and other cast builds - I hate collecting casts

native blade
#

Imagine being able to use the bow.

mystic lark
#

Depends for what. If you are not trying to go fast bow is nice, especially Chiron

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When you are trying to go fast... Well, Im trying for the last week, and did not get more than 13:20. Which sucks.

stone rune
#

and then i played beo

mystic lark
#

Last few days I use Hera, did not come even close to pb

stone rune
#

crush shot?

mystic lark
stone rune
#

what

#

true shot is like bad

mystic lark
stone rune
#

okay but imagine that with an actually high damaging cast like phalanx

mystic lark
#

I tried different ones, Artemis is cool

stone rune
#

a good poseidon build is lightning phalanx

latent moon
#

Ice wine pos is based

mystic lark
#

Is hades call any good? I tried it a few times and forgor about it completely

stone rune
stone rune
#

great on high burst damage weapons for speedruns

lethal bay
#

Is the aspect of beowulf worth putting Titan blood into above aspect of nemesis

stone rune
#

yea

royal widget
lethal bay
stone rune
#

theres a few options

#

trippy flare is really hard to get up but has the highest potential

#

passion flare is high base damage

royal widget
#

Aphrodite Poseidon and Dionysus (with stygian soul) are the best

stone rune
#

and flood flare has big aoe, goes through walls, but most importantly opens mirage shot

#

mirage shot is bugged on beowulf to deal 100% of damage

#

multiplicatively doubling your damage

#

so the build goes flood flare -> deadly strike -> mirage shot

royal widget
#

scintillating feast is great too
like a mini call within the fog

lethal bay
stone rune
#

no

royal widget
#

only for Dionysus' cast

stone rune
#

only for dionysus cast

#

because it takes ages to drop back down

vapid geode
#

How do u get blood fast ??

stone rune
#

grind

vapid geode
#

How

#

Grind what

stone rune
#

play new bounties

vapid geode
#

Wots that

rancid panther
#

Did you escape?

vapid geode
#

Nope

stone rune
#

yea just play more

rancid panther
#

Do that first

vapid geode
#

How

rancid panther
#

How to escape?

vapid geode
#

I canā€™t escape without dying a ton

rancid panther
#

Well, yeah.
Tell me about it

vapid geode
#

Yeye

rancid panther
#

I died 80+ times until my first escape

vapid geode
#

What weapon do I use tho

#

I got a decent bow

rancid panther
#

Only sword

vapid geode
#

Fr?

rancid panther
#

At least for now

stone rune
#

sword is hard

rancid panther
#

I know

stone rune
#

use whatever you're comfortable with

vapid geode
#

Yeye

stone rune
#

if that's sword then sure

#

but don't recommend it

vapid geode
#

I like the bow tbh

stone rune
#

learn to dash strike power shot thne

#

bow is very good

#

put some blood into zagreus aspect

vapid geode
#

Y

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I got blood in another 1

vapid geode
stone rune
#

practice on skelly

rancid panther
#

Honestly.
Just play the game.
Everything will get clearer

stone rune
#

let me record what it looks like

vapid geode
#

Alr

rancid panther
#

And easier, ish

vapid geode
#

I got close to escaping

rancid panther
vapid geode
#

Ahh okay lol

mystic lark
vapid geode
#

Huhh

stone rune
vapid geode
#

I canā€™t view it šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

stone rune
#

idk why it wont embed

#

jsut click link

vapid geode
#

I did

stone rune
#

oh ur on phone

vapid geode
#

Yeye

stone rune
#

im dm

vapid geode
#

Alr

latent moon
vapid geode
#

Idc abt spoilers but thx

weak charm
#

can the piercing wave waves be critical if im using nemesis

stone rune
#

piercing wave can crit off PP or hunters mark

weak charm
#

oh

twilit lodge
#

Iā€™m watching a variety streamer play hades

#

And they started collar

#

And Arthur

#

And for 2 heat they chose JS2

#

Aaaaaaaaaaaaa

mint coral
#

more enemies means you get to hit even more enemies in 1 swing šŸ§ 

twilit lodge
#

And theyā€™re using authority

#

Aaaaaa

#

They have no attack boon, Athena on special, and Artemis cast

#

No dash

mint coral
#

gaming

twilit lodge
#

Truly a gaming experience

mint coral
#

tbh the only thing I mind there is the collar start lol

#

I get more shock by some people first 32 heat wins

#

those are amazing

twilit lodge
#

I forgot what mine was but itā€™s in here somewhere

#

Chiron because why not

native blade
twilit lodge
#

They havenā€™t died

#

At least

#

They got dem attack and call

#

I imagine theyā€™ll have no problem winning

native blade
#

Ah, well I think theyā€™re fine, theyā€™ll learn, probably just tryna be safe.

mint coral
twilit lodge
#

Yeah I was coached by nyaanyaa

native blade
#

Ahhh, good coach.

mint coral
#

I love the ones that have like ri2+ or something else

twilit lodge
#

I can only imagine how pact.com some peopleā€™s first 32s are

mint coral
#

Or like every pact but td and still on td3 time

latent moon
#

not me writing a 32 heat guide because i'm bored and dont want to do hw

twilit lodge
#

Bananas hires a ghostwriter

native blade
#

Bruh.

stone rune
#

32 heat guide: use hestia

native blade
#

Honestly just send that in as hw, you got a decent chance at a grade.

stone rune
latent moon
latent moon
stone rune
#

because it's the realest analysis of 32 heat you can get

latent moon
#

i dont have that class either

weak charm
#

is sisyphus keepsake good for tartarus and asphodel?

stone rune
#

firstly you need an aspect which likes the %

#

and then you need it to not require a diff boon

#

and then you need to know what to pick up

#

but as a keepsake it is excellent

#

because that applies to a lot of weapons

#

other than knowing what to pick up which is a krill issue

weak charm
#

its not so shrimple then šŸ˜Ŗ

latent moon
sick ridge
#

I really hope Zagreus is playable hades 2

weak charm
#

i do wonder what his role will be in the next game

#

surely heā€™d also be trying to stop kronos

hollow violet
#

Maybe they're prisoners of kronos?

weak charm
#

perhaps

#

i feel like zagreus failing to beat kronos while mellinoe succeeds could put a bad taste in some peoples mouths

native blade
hollow violet
#

I thought it was Hades narrating?

native blade
#

Nah, no shot, different voices.

weak charm
#

i thought it was homer

latent moon
#

i figured the narrator is just some dude telling a story lmao

native blade
#

He interacts with Zagreus, Zagreus can hear him.

weak charm
#

the game hints a few times its homer or some greek poet

normal marlin
#

maybe it's Cerberus

weak charm
#

its me šŸ˜¼

native blade
#

Homer is the most popular suspect Iā€™m pretty sure but I put him behind Kronos because I think Homer would make a specific statement about Achilles.

native blade
weak charm
#

says hes a distinguished poet

#

oops replied to wrong message

weak charm
native blade
#

Yeah you make a great point.

#

Ig to answer your original concern, there's also the thing where Melinoe is specifically prepared to fight Kronos and Zagreus wasn't.

#

In all fairness all the gods who fought the titans were also trapped.

weak charm
#

wait, in the game?

#

the olympic gods are all chained up now too???

native blade
#

I thought that was the premise? Was I wrong?

#

That's why Melinoe has to come rii?

weak charm
#

i thought just the underworld gods are being held captive

#

how are we gonna get boons šŸ˜­

native blade
weak charm
#

oh true

normal marlin
#

same one that voices Achilles too

#

and charon

#

Logan Cunningham

native blade
#

Damn.

#

Also, fighting Tisi with Arthur can screw u if u're not careful.

weak charm
#

true but also

#

she dies in five seconds

native blade
#

Well yeah, but except for meg, they both do lol.

weak charm
#

im trying so hard to like gilgamesh man ā˜ ļø

stone rune
#

donā€™t need to

weak charm
#

i feel like it has potential to be silly but

hollow violet
weak charm
#

idk!!!

latent moon
#

you can make that one silly

weak charm
#

thats essentially how i play it anyway

#

isnt that the intended way

latent moon
#

no but it's the best way to play it

native blade
#

OML

#

I GOT IT!?!?!?!?

#

bruh...

#

SD sucks my-

weak charm
#

dont mean to be a downer but that sounds mid bouldy

latent moon
#

free death defiance lmao

native blade
latent moon
#

yeah it's def not that great in most situations

#

if you're running high heat and you get a defiance, hope that the curse isn't bad so you can take it lmao

native blade
#

DAMN YOU CHAOS!!!!

latent moon
#

lmao

hollow violet
#

Did the boon itself kill you?

native blade
#

I had cursed slash and the very next room was The Heroes fight.

hollow violet
#

Ouch. That sucks!

native blade
#

Even then I could still win, but because I had SD it never gave me the extra DD.

hollow violet
#

Darn.

native blade
#

Damn.

latent moon
#

you def do get the dd

#

the curse prob wasn't lifted yet

latent moon
#

with them being in the background

native blade
#

Oh yeah, u only get it after the curse lifts.

#

So I got super mega giga screwed.

latent moon
#

i straight up got 2 chaos DDs with SD in one run lmao

weak charm
#

the spear shouldve had an Aspect of Charon

#

i want to smack people absolutely silly with a huge paddle

native blade
#

Lel.

#

No shot...

#

Is this seeded?

stone rune
#

did you give up?

#

oh nem you wouldnā€™t have gotten the boon yet

native blade
#

Nah, I straight up died.

native blade
stone rune
#

but also the other one was 3 encounters

native blade
#

Absolutely quick stomped The Heroes.

weak charm
#

heart rend on beowulf is pretty silly if you get aphrodite attack and artemis cast

latent moon
#

10% crit chance moment

#

also i'm pretty sure hunter's flare base damage is really low lmao

stone rune
#

basically lowest

#

thunder or icy might be lower idek

latent moon
#

hey jazz if you wanna procrastinate on hw do you wanna write part of the guide for me lmao

#

i finished half the weapons

stone rune
#

iā€™ll do it when i wake up lol itā€™s 1 am

latent moon
#

but also i feel like my build section is scuffed

latent moon
#

i was hoping you'd have a bad sleep schedule

stone rune
#

but yeah i have an ap exam to not study for tmr so iā€™m down

latent moon
#

incredibly based

stone rune
#

itā€™ll be free dw

#

i probably only need like a 65% for a 5 lmfao

weak charm
weak charm
#

ā€¦.idk probability

stone rune
#

iā€™m las vegas

weak charm
#

oh

#

people live in las vegas? thas crazy

native blade
surreal veldt
#

9 clears out of 27 runsā€¦ so far so good!

#

When the cello starts playing in Greece šŸ„¹

#

Beautifully scored

upper thorn
#

yay i finally bought hades

#

on steam

rancid panther
#

are you using keyboard?

upper thorn
#

yeah probably

#

i played hades on switch too

rancid panther
#

probably?
You don't know?

upper thorn
#

yeah idk

#

if keyboard mouse is janky i'm probably gonna use my controller

rancid panther
#

If you plan on using a keyboard you'll have much less
movment options

upper thorn
#

only 4 directions i guess?

rancid panther
#

Start with a controller.
keyboard is a pita

upper thorn
#

or 8 ?

rancid panther
#

but that's just me

upper thorn
#

okay i'll play with controller

#

thanks for the advice

rancid panther
rustic python
#

Bruh I have 945 gold in Tartarus. Midas Touch is gonna make me so rich.

upper thorn
#

hi, where is my save file located?

#

i'm on steam

rancid panther
#

As in, on your pc? or inside the game?

fleet lance
#

this has got to be the most painful thing

native blade
stone rune
stone rune
#

pls donā€™t tell people that kbm sucks because all top heat players and some speedrunners also use it, kbm vs controller will almost never be bottleneck

rancid panther
#

That's why I always say, that's my opinion/preference.
I agree, I could have worded it better.
Will take that into considiration for next time

zealous ridge
#

Who's favorite god is Dionysus? To play with

native blade
#

His passives are so good and hangover is perfect DoT.

zealous ridge
#

I love hangover and I love the fountain refill all the way. I also love Athena's defense

native blade
#

^

#

Athena unironically is util goddess.

stone rune
native blade
humble willow
#

i hate using the bow n arrow

#

also is it just me who avoids hermes boons 90% of the time? i feel like literally everything else is a better choice than hermes boons most of the time

native blade
native blade
humble willow
#

unless i get the extra dash or +20% attack speed from him i always feel like his boons just either suck or feel useless

#

thats just me anyway

native blade
latent moon
mint coral
latent moon
#

it'll charge a lot faster and make it more intuitive to play

mint coral
#

also even if you dont like them you still should grab the boons

latent moon
mint coral
#

once you pick up 2 boons from him he dips for the rest of your run

latent moon
#

also that yeah

#

hermes is basically a hammer but a god

lunar mulch
#

Im not sure if im allowed to ask this

#

But is there a simmilar game for two players?

#

I'm enjoying it quite a bit but it's a shame I can couch coop with my sibling

native blade
#

Damnā€¦ Are there story roguelike co ops? thonking

#

Iā€™ve only seen some in mobile games.

lunar mulch
#

I wouldnt mind it being more bullet hell like. We have ton of experience with isaac, enter the gungeon and alike

#

Depends how far you stretch the story aspect

native blade
charred cipher
#

its technically a spoiler so i cant put it in the new players channel but does anyone have any tips for my first time fighting Hades

mint coral
#

@obsidian linden too lazy to spoiler mark everything so just mentioning it here

#

there arent

#

to have max heat you cant do it on your first run

latent moon
#

em4 also unlocks after your 10th win

mint coral
#

because both extreme measures (bosses gain new moves) and routine inspection (lose mirror skills)

obsidian linden
#

Oh yeah, some heat and gods aren't on the very first run

mint coral
#

dont appear till you fulfill requirements

#

and tbh

#

even if you could go max heat from the beginning

#

no way you are doing that with sword

obsidian linden
#

But, there is allways someone who will do it

mint coral
#

only weapon that has done its zeus shield

latent moon
#

you also dont have a hammer in your very first run

obsidian linden
#

People are out there doing Dark Souls without being hit once

mint coral
#

heat wasn't really thought to be beated at max

latent moon
#

not with sword lmao

obsidian linden
#

There is probably people doing things the hardest of hard way in Hades !

#

Maybe if I offer a bounty

latent moon
#

the most recent eris heat wr had a 5 hit final fight

latent moon
mint coral
#

to put a bit more context the first max heat clear was a routed run

obsidian linden
#

1.000$ :p

mint coral
#

is possible but no one wants to grind the rng needed to do so

#

and I'm speaking in context of zeus shield still

obsidian linden
#

But, ok, that one is painful

latent moon
#

zeus shield?

mint coral
#

Modded I think 64 has a pair of clears no?

#

Chinese community going brrr

latent moon
#

at least 1

#

idr a second

mint coral
#

there is also the ones clearing like 60+ with all the specials on zeus

obsidian linden
#

TAS as bezn done on Hades ?

raw herald
#

Not for a full run