#h1-discussion

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raw herald
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Tidal dash was also sea storm prereq

stone rune
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im very happy ddash isnt a mettle prereq

raw herald
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Same

rustic vale
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Hellfire bot offline shadegrief

latent moon
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Amb is selling her house or something so it's gonna be down for a bit

compact cairn
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im so close to beating the game any tips?

stone rune
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uh

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in what regard

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i guess like

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make sure your mirror is in order

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and do decent builds

rustic vale
royal widget
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oh demeter why is it so hard to get rare crop

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it's a little too rare for me

calm zenith
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And rarity matters unless you hard manipulate it

royal widget
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if only i knew how to manip

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would be cool if you could pikc it up multiple times like sunken treasure

rustic vale
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Give me 2 seconds

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Or longer

royal widget
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1

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2

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ok

rustic vale
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Buy anvil
See what it took, if you like it, take it, if you don’t, hit pause immediately and then go quit out of the game (in the pause menu), head back in, and cast once, buy anvil, repeat, casting (or summoning) one more time each time

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Except

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Replace buy anvil with like

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eury

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Or whatever

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It changes if you’re trying to rng manip a boon because you can’t exactly just hit quit while in boon menu

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unless I’m crazy and you can

stone rune
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you cannot

rustic vale
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If you want to rng manip a boon you’d basically have to route it

whole tartan
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Can I still get 100% Olympian free if I have a boon empowered ability but don’t use it until I’ve sold the boon?

raw herald
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Yeah

royal widget
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oh that's cool

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it's nice how forgiving this game is sometimes

whole tartan
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Lol seemed impossible to do otherwise

rustic vale
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It is possible otherwise

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afaik

whole tartan
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Seemed like some rooms can’t be rerolled out of god boons no matter what

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Unless stuff like oceans bounty or other non ability boons don’t count towards it either

ocean imp
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anyone got strats/advice for doing runs faster? best i can do so far is 13 min on eris rail

royal widget
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mod

rustic vale
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builds includes your mirror, the aspects you use, the boons you pick up on each aspect

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mechanics are your ability to use the weapon, understanding of speedrun strats etc

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Heat pact is just forced overtime 2 and extreme measures 2 make your gsme faster then 0 heat due mainly to enemies spawning sooner, but also slightly to enemies moving faster and taking jolted damage more often, while em2 makes lernie fight was faster by grouping up the heads

latent moon
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Sleepsouls speedrunning video guide is a good place to start

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Goes over a few builds as well

ocean imp
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thank you all so much!!!

cursive nova
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I am trying to stick with Artemida, is good idea?

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Also I am using claws right now.

royal widget
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it's a shame there aren't more aspect-specific hammers

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ex: maim debuff lasts 2x longer and deals 2x damage

rustic vale
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luci

royal widget
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even hammers for non-hidden ones would be cool

brisk trail
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Luci has a lot of hammers dusa

royal widget
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yeah yeah

rustic vale
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It only has 9

brisk trail
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One of wich I like a lot

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Laser pointer go brrrrrrrdusa

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I did my first rail clear with it

royal widget
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i can't use Lucy for the life of me

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even with triple bomb

stone rune
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luci h as a lot of aspect specific hammers

brisk trail
rustic vale
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beam, conc beam, eternal chamber, flash fire, bigger pulses

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5 aspect specific

pastel monolith
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i need advice for good builds for the fists
so far i know
aspect of demeter, get something good on special.. and zeus on attack seems like a good thing usualy
or try to get mercifel end build going...

im trying to improve my personal best for heat on the fists in general and im struggling.. my best is 33 heat i think

brisk trail
rustic vale
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Piercing fire, triple bomb, tsrgetting system and explosive fire are the non-aspect specific iirc

pastel monolith
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im not even sure what are the ideal hammers for fists.. i like the one that makes u sturdy while attacking

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explosive upper is pretty good i think but idk if i utilize it to its full potential

stone rune
royal widget
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expl upper is best with dem

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and breaching cross above all

pastel monolith
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thanks

royal widget
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i prefer rending claws though

pastel monolith
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that make sense

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whats rending claws

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i cant remember

stone rune
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it's for gilga

royal widget
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||gilg|| specific

stone rune
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gilga just sucks

stone rune
royal widget
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lol

stone rune
pastel monolith
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gilg is fun for dash runs thats about it imo

royal widget
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i need to do one of those again

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that was fun

pastel monolith
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its also pretty fun to use gilgamesh with ares special

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get that delayed damage goin stromg

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i suck with fists in general, i get hit so much more than other weapons bc the close range

royal widget
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i thought that at first but it's redundant

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ME all the way

rustic vale
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Gilga sacrifices so much surivivability

pastel monolith
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its difficult to get ME goin at higher heat tho.. but maybe thats what i should be aiming for

royal widget
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only with AP

pastel monolith
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my goal now is to get 40 heat with each weapon

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i have most at like 35

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ive 32 each aspect

raw herald
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I did ME for most swords and fists at 40

pastel monolith
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my highest ever is 43 with hestia

raw herald
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Still works very well

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And i didnt use AP

royal widget
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what did you use for shields

stone rune
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aspect of cshot works at 40 lol

raw herald
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It was ages ago so aspect of cshot wasnt realised yet

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I did pulv blow for zag and zeus squared

stone rune
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man plays first shield run in the last 50 years to not have cshot

pastel monolith
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my best shield aspect is definitely beowulf

royal widget
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*the

pastel monolith
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i can probably get 40 heat with that

stone rune
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beo is the worst aspect in the game

pastel monolith
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i think my current pb for heat is beo with like 36

stone rune
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complete and utter garbage

pastel monolith
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really? i like beo

rustic vale
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Beo is one of the best

stone rune
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nope

rustic vale
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They’re memeing you

stone rune
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it sucks

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fake news

pastel monolith
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i just duno how to use the other ones effectively.. i could probably get somethin goin with zeus shield i bet

royal widget
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hestia simp

rustic vale
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bugowolf is rlly good

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zeus is too

stone rune
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zoos is kinda hard

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zagshield is the best shield aspect

rustic vale
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3rd best

royal widget
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no it's chaos for those juicy crits

stone rune
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3rd? weird way to spell 1st

stone rune
royal widget
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20% crit chance x 5
think about it

stone rune
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68% chance of at least 1 crit

pastel monolith
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ive done 32 heat with each aspect, so im not a noob but i still have lots to learn and practice.. i rly wana try to get better with aspects im not comfortable with

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id say my worst is probably arthur

stone rune
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arthur stinks

pastel monolith
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i dont like most spears either.. and fists are always just a frantic frenzy and idk what im doing i just hope to get enough damage going it doesnt matter

stone rune
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fists stink

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spear mostly stink but GY and achilles r huge

raw herald
stone rune
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cshot huge

raw herald
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Ancient run

pastel monolith
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so with fists are we saying ME is the way to go always?

stone rune
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if 32 heat wasnt an in game number what do you think the heat benchmarks would be

stone rune
royal widget
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25

stone rune
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25 is just spicy 20

royal widget
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25 40 and 50

raw herald
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Yeah prob

pastel monolith
stone rune
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i feel like it'd be 20 30 40 50

royal widget
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yeah

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actually what would change for 30 down from 32

raw herald
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2 heat probs thanthink

pastel monolith
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whats the highest heat for erebus gates

stone rune
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15

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ely erebus takes 15

pastel monolith
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my "casual runs" are 20 heat . i do em4 and benefits package and middle management, and i think 2 on deadline

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thats 20 right

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i suck at em4 tho, i still fail all the time

stone rune
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yeah thatd add up to 20

pastel monolith
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i usually do 1 on forced overtime too

royal widget
pastel monolith
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i pretty much never play without 1 FO

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i think maybe my 20 heat is bene package 1 and fo 1

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i should rly know this better lol

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ive been doing these random 20 heat runs.. where i force myself to only use certain keepsakes.. start with coinpurse, then pom blossom, then hourglass, then tooth

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stubborn defiance always

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always fight charon if offered

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it helps me get better with wonky builds

royal widget
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nice

royal widget
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does shared suffering proc twice with twin shot?

latent moon
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Yeah

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Because it's like 2 separate attacks using shared suffering so it's fine

calm zenith
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Sometimes lost but usually I made it. It's a fun extra challenge at least.

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Better bosses

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Lernie is faster but magma damage is serious

brisk trail
calm zenith
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Yeah shared suffering even effects crits.

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True

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Chaos curses tho

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Or melee aspects even

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Fists already suck in Asphodel

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Breaching can make Elysium a breeze though

stone rune
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shared suffering affects all atk damage

calm zenith
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Yeah

stone rune
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omg

calm zenith
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Even inflicts bonus dmg to 1 target

stone rune
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i made a typographical error

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this is the first time in like 5 months

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this sucks

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but yeah shared suffering is just 60% of any number sourced from atk

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i think it’d be funny if it worked with casts too

brisk trail
stone rune
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because that’s a different source

calm zenith
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No just raw attack dmg

stone rune
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flat damage shouldn’t be affected

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zeus, dio, ares

calm zenith
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% modifiers good Flat dmg bad

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Put flat on special

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One of the best flat dmg applicators

brisk trail
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The flat damage from that aspect already deletes everything dusa

stone rune
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speedrunners start zeus for special but still the attack is primarily used and it is very viable to start aphrodite

pastel monolith
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weird question about crit
if u hit 2 or more enemies at once with the same attack.. does crit go to all of them or is it a separate probability for each hit on each enemy

calm zenith
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Yeah I've had excellent pure Zeus runs that defy the laws of 1 bolt per 0.2 seconds

stone rune
stone rune
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so rama works nicely with it because of the bouncing

calm zenith
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Ah okay

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Makes sense

brisk trail
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I thend to slap Arti on atk for crit and more funny numbers and then Aphrodite on special for duo boondusa

stone rune
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because your special doesn’t suck then

brisk trail
stone rune
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and you could get smair

stone rune
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i cannot parse this sentence

brisk trail
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Deflect dashdusa

stone rune
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ddash sadly not ideal on rama because it wont deflect during charge

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i think hunter dash is ideal

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maybe tdash is useful

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but idk

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is bananas online

latent moon
stone rune
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what are the dashes for rama

latent moon
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hunter dash is best dash for rama because big damage

stone rune
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yeah

latent moon
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ddash is fine because it's ddash

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tidal dash can mess up groupings/line ups

stone rune
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is it worth forcing arty into aspho if you have no atk for it

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cause i think rama is a shackle angle with no atk right

latent moon
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well

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tbh idrk because you want acorn later

stone rune
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acorn is that huge?

latent moon
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5 free hits

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and like

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rama needs that invulnerability tbh

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so you can actually get the attacks in

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like hestia wants it for hc and because nothing else is good to take into styx

stone rune
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also this is just general bow question

latent moon
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well zag bow is basically the same build wise as hestia

stone rune
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if swift strike was enough to make standing strike charge faster than dash strike would standing be used

latent moon
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prob not because hunters dash

stone rune
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but tdash start

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oh but lunges

latent moon
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yeah lunges

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but in general for rama, there's basically only 1 build for speed lmao

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zeus special + jolted, hunters dash, flood shot + breaking wave, big attack

stone rune
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how important is jolted

latent moon
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i mean it's good damage

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lets you delta chamber for a bit if you have to

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tbf jolted prob isn't that important, but you're gonna end up seeing zeus again at some point

royal widget
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what are the prerequisites for CoD

latent moon
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flood shot and any ares core

stone rune
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slicing shot :croven:

latent moon
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idk if that includes call, but atk special and dash all work

royal widget
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mmm

stone rune
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just check wiki or codex

royal widget
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just wondering if that would work with Rama like you said

latent moon
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that would be pretty bad

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because rama needs distance

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also like

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what ares core are you taking

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i guess if you start atk

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and pick up ares special and flood shot

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but like

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why would you pick the duo

royal widget
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what does work with cod anyway though

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Achilles?

latent moon
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guess technically yeah

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better stuff out there for achilles tho

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CoD is a decent pick for fists after you get ME

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but like

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nothing else really stands out

upper thorn
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Give me some of the funnest build plz

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Not op, but fun

stone rune
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super soaker

upper thorn
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Well thanks sirr

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Nice prof pic

stone rune
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so essentially

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you do lucifer

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start poseidon atk

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take a zeus core

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and get sea storm

empty swallow
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So it begins

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You guys voted and hottest character tornament won (shocker)

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This tornaments gonna cause WW3

royal widget
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is this tournament also hottest

deft python
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I’m so close to being done with this game

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The very last thing I will complete in this game will be learning how to play the harp

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I will forge every bond, max every keepsake, and fill out the codex before I learn how to play the harp

stone rune
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when sub4

gray apex
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soon

latent moon
deft python
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Yeah that too

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I’m gonna get unseen one too I guess

stone rune
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is it common for new players to spam min charge bow shots

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it's wild how little damage a min charge can do

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you'd figure they'd at least start it at like 30 instead of 20

latent moon
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Idk why they would

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I don't think they spam min charge

stone rune
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im delving into twitch hades category

latent moon
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That sounds fun

stone rune
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it can be painful but also rather impressive

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went into this stream where someone had zoos atk delta chamber rail

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and they were sort of sitting there attacking like every 10 seconds and i told them to hold mouse1 and they literally just beat the game that attempt

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first attempt into styx, first attempt into dad

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beat the game

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it was kinda wild

latent moon
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Lmfao

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Delta iframes wild

stone rune
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yeah]

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but also

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the dodging was so much better than my dodging was at that same sort of point in my hades career

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didnt even lose a dd till p2

latent moon
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Lmao they might've had previous rogue-like experience

stone rune
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nearly fell apart at p2p2 but came through

stone rune
latent moon
stone rune
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yeah the hammers were cracked though

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delta and hazard

latent moon
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Oh that's based

limber ether
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numbskulls that give shields to their allies are such a pain holy

stone rune
latent moon
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Savior numbskulls my beloved

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Just play an aspect that can deal with it duh

limber ether
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what even does lmao

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zeus?

stone rune
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zeus

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well

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anyhting with zoos atk

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because the chain strips hearts

latent moon
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Tidal dash start

stone rune
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tdash not real

latent moon
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Beo works

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Nonhestia rails all work

stone rune
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i mean

latent moon
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Fists

stone rune
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in that situation

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any rail would ahve had the same thing

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because it was boonless lol

latent moon
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In that situation yeah just suffer

stone rune
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Whats the aspect i was playing again

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i wanna run more but i forgot what i was doing

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right

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beo

latent moon
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rama

tropic grail
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Is it possible to reroll a Daedalus hammer at the start of a run?

raw herald
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no

calm zenith
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C1 hammers cant be rerolled

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Chamber 1

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Later hammers in Tartarus can be avoided and semi-routed if you are patient

stone rune
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and cant change c1 reward if you mean auth

tropic grail
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No I meant like manipulating rng if you know you don’t want what’s offered

latent moon
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C1 rewards can't be manipulated afaik

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Only way to change it is by dying

brisk trail
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Idk why but I always get a hammer in C1 bouldy

rustic vale
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Well

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C1 is either a boon or a hammer

brisk trail
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Wel I always run with 1 of the 2 keepsake that require u to beat hades 10 times bouldy

rustic vale
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Your odds for having c1 be a boon or a hammer won’t change based on keepsake

brisk trail
solar vault
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olympian keepsakes don't change chance of getting hammer c1

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they only affect whose boon it is when a boon shows up

rustic vale
pastel monolith
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vorime is workin on doing a no damage fresh file run.. if he achieves that.. that will be amazing

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someone else is trying it too

empty swallow
royal widget
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looks like voters didn't understand

pastel monolith
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hottest characters is bouldy

brisk trail
stone rune
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heretics all of you

rustic vale
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Hottest npc is indeed Bouldy

pastel monolith
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the strong silent type

sleek robin
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Zeus shield ME build is strong

pastel monolith
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does anyone wish hades had more blood and gore

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maybe it would be too messy

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and its cool if the game isnt rated M but.. it might be cool to have blood on the ground or dead bodies or somethin

royal widget
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just kill tiny vermin

pastel monolith
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maybe some nsfw art for aphrodite lol

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i mean theres a character in the game whos a naked lady

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and theres kinky 3 somes

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why not go all out with it lol

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but i think it's bc they wana keep the teen rating

royal widget
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i haven't gotten the 3some yet, is it also just rng?

pastel monolith
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too me ages to get it.. i think because i neglect than.. i never started going to that part of the house untill i started checking the records room more frequently

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i was over 400hrs into the game before i ever got the 3way

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but now ive had it a bunch of times

sleek robin
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Someone have a demeter fist build pls ?

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Like wich god for atk and special

stone rune
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zeus atk artemis special

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or ME

sleek robin
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Ty jazz

stone rune
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get static discharge from zeus

sleek robin
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I have enough of playing ME

sleek robin
latent moon
sleek robin
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O*

stone rune
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works too

sleek robin
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Smair ?

royal widget
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smoldering air

sleek robin
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Oh

royal widget
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auto god gauge

sleek robin
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With wich god shoyld i start

royal widget
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zeus

sleek robin
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Ok thanks guys

sleek robin
high island
sleek robin
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Ty

sleek robin
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Would the build be good with zeus’ special too ? Cuz there would be the splitting botl doubble strike and the jolted effect boon for atk and special

stone rune
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wants % not flat

rustic vale
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no

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Demeter would not be good with zeus special

stone rune
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thunder flourish doesnt trigger for each part of giga

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it has cooldown

rustic vale
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Lightning bolts have internal cooldowns

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1/.2 seconds

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so

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You would only pop out like 1 bolt

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Per giga cutter

high island
stone rune
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1 bolt/.2 seconds

high island
high island
rustic vale
empty swallow
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I thought giga cutter had 5 lightning strikes

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So beside zeus shield what works well with Zeus special

rustic vale
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like
achilles spear special for jolted ig

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and rama special

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Aside from that nothing really

empty swallow
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Wait side question so since thunder flourish has a .2 cooldown. Lets say I use chaos and get Zeus special if 4 shields hit an enemy at once is it only 1 strike of lighting

rustic vale
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Yes

empty swallow
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Bruh

rustic vale
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1 lightning bolt per .2 per enemy per source of lightning bolts iirc

latent moon
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same reason why thunder flourish is bad on chiron

rustic vale
empty swallow
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I've been tricked, bamboozled

calm zenith
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Zeus special is very strong on hidden bow ironically

latent moon
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thunder flourish is only really good on like rama and zeus lol

latent moon
rustic vale
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If you get forced into zeus on achilles

empty swallow
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Why is it good on Rama but not Chiron

latent moon
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because it's not your main damage source on rama

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it's just there for general aoe

calm zenith
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Rama has a very different special

rustic vale
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Because rama spreads it around

latent moon
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and jolted

calm zenith
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As well

rustic vale
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Rama spreads jolted

latent moon
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for chiron, the special is the main damage dealer and getting only 1 lightning bolt on it is kinda bad

calm zenith
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Rama: mass spread for little effort
Chiron: concentrated payoff

high island
empty swallow
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So Rama with zeus special plus jolt basically jolts everyone

rustic vale
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It’s not the 3 arrows hitting the same enemy that matters for zeus flourish

calm zenith
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Yup

rustic vale
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It’s the aoe from those areows

calm zenith
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Yeah

rustic vale
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Plus you also usually have aphrodite strike on rama so grab a call and you’ve got smouldering air open

calm zenith
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Jolted also benefits Rama's slow charge

empty swallow
calm zenith
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They attack you and get bolted

high island
stone rune
empty swallow
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Why does Aphro attack do the most damage she's the last God I'd expect to be that threatening

stone rune
latent moon
calm zenith
high island
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Love conquers everything.

stone rune
calm zenith
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It just concentrates special on 1 target

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Therefore it's technically payoff

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It's just not amazing

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It has no boosts if that's what you mean

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It still does a "combo" that synergizes with attack boons and stuff like PS

stone rune
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no chiron just sucks

calm zenith
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It does

stone rune
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ergo no payoff because you are actually losing money to play chiron

sleek robin
calm zenith
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Still technically has a combo system

stone rune
sleek robin
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I’m a noob and it carried me

latent moon
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chiron is fine lmao

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it's just very average

stone rune
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stinks i hate

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i tried running its so bad

latent moon
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i mean just play it casually without caring for speed or heat lmao

high island
stone rune
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you can see me switch off chiron in my video lmfao

sleek robin
high island
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And one specific Lord Hermes boon at high rarity.

stone rune
sleek robin
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¯_(ツ)_/¯

latent moon
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which is why it's not bad lol

sleek robin
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That’s why

stone rune
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learning to play it: learn zagbow

sleek robin
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Why

calm zenith
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Why wouldn't I just play Rama

high island
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Zag Bow much harder to master. tizomg

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Chiron is fun.

calm zenith
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Instead of shooting 1 enemy I shoot them all

stone rune
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chiron is zagbow if it did no damage

sleek robin
high island
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Also extremely easy to play.

stone rune
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idk i cant stand it

calm zenith
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Chiron is fine but I dont enjoy it

latent moon
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yeah exactly lmao

calm zenith
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Maybe if I get some crit build going idk

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Still

sleek robin
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I hate hestia imo

latent moon
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chiron doesn't really deserve any hate, it's just super average

calm zenith
#

That's just me liking crits

latent moon
stone rune
calm zenith
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I could do demeter instead and it would be better

high island
sleek robin
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I will shower and then iill be back talking about hestia

stone rune
toxic trellis
calm zenith
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Hestia fans shower with a single drop of water

empty swallow
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The hottest tornament round 1 already has the most votes out of any tornament I've made lol. This is truely a hades fandom moment

calm zenith
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It's disgusting tbh

royal widget
#

hestia fans learning the attack patterns of the shower

stone rune
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would be rama

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hestia can bask c:

calm zenith
#

Rama can shoot early and has better dash strikes

stone rune
#

rama has lower base damage

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and you have to charge it

calm zenith
#

It also hits everything

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Potentially

stone rune
#

ok

#

clockets

calm zenith
#

Clockets requires 2 hammers

stone rune
#

yeah

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and

calm zenith
#

Rama likes 2 hammers. It doesnt even need them

stone rune
#

rama without twin when needs to damage enemies

calm zenith
#

It still does aoe clears regardless

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Twin is just for armor tbf

stone rune
#

i mean it literally doubles your damage?

calm zenith
#

It does

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Most importantly for handling armor bars and one shotting

stone rune
#

boss fights kinda suck without twin or triple

sleek robin
calm zenith
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It does. Still does its job.

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Hestia sucks without good hammers too kinda.

latent moon
stone rune
calm zenith
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True

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Same with Rama

stone rune
#

ricochet, piercing, explosive, cluster, rocket, hazard, targeting

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rama has like

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4

calm zenith
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3 attack and less special hammers clogging the pool

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4 attack

stone rune
#

why are you taking special hammers on rama

latent moon
#

REPULSE SHOT

calm zenith
#

All viable to varying degrees

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I'm not

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I'm saying Rama doesnt have special hammers clogging the pool

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It has repulse shot instead clogging the pool

stone rune
#

well the special hammers on hestia are good

calm zenith
#

Cool

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The focus of Rama is attack

stone rune
#

hestia has attack and special

calm zenith
#

So does Rama tbf

stone rune
#

and the special actually does damage after aspho

calm zenith
#

Rama special just does flat dmg

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It can still do a fair bit

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And it doesnt need a hammer to do that

stone rune
#

you do it once per enemy and it amounts to like 150 170

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including jolted

calm zenith
#

Definitely more than that

stone rune
#

hestia has hazard which does 240 base and additives

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and clockets which do 400 base

calm zenith
#

Sure but Rama still has shared suffering lol

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People do well with it. It's just a tricky aspect

latent moon
#

is the point of this argument whether rama or hestia is better

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because it sure does seem like it

calm zenith
#

I cant dash strike for my life on Hestia because of auto aim

stone rune
#

what

calm zenith
#

A minor issue sure since you can disable it but still

stone rune
#

dash striking and normal atk are identical

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except one is on dash

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and gets lunge

calm zenith
#

I know. Dash strike just makes me face an awkward direction often

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Where no enemy is

latent moon
#

are you on kbm?

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oh i think i know what the issue is

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yeah that can happen

calm zenith
#

I'm on a switch

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This issue doesnt exist with Rama due to the charged attack

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It's a situational issue but it definitely hampers using like Hunter Dash

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Or other potential dmg boosts from Chaos

stone rune
#

are you doing rotation

calm zenith
#

? I dont really follow any guides. I do decent with it up until I try to dash strike.

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I use rail the least really

stone rune
latent moon
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that sounds like too much effort

stone rune
#

it is ez to do if you slow it down a bit

latent moon
#

i mean you can get the dash strikes to work on hestia if you dash into them so autoaim can work better

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but also dashing in kinda not great

calm zenith
#

Fair. And Hestia does best at like no hit

stone rune
#

i mean on hestia you can shoot anywhere from anywhere

calm zenith
#

So dashing into melee is counter-intuitive

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True

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It's just unusual

stone rune
#

so just let the autoaim do its thing

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you aim with wasd for hestia on kbm lol

latent moon
#

it works at like midrange, but anything farther it shoots into whatever direction you're facing

calm zenith
#

Yeah

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I even had like +160% dash strike dmg

stone rune
#

get closer then

latent moon
#

tbf dashing in with hestia is fine until like elysium

latent moon
#

unless it's a boss

calm zenith
#

Yeah

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Fair

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I think I had a streak with it before my break

high island
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Don't listen to jazz, she's a Beowulf main. Doesn't even play Hestia.

stone rune
#

what

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i never play beowulf

royal widget
#

well hold on now

stone rune
#

maybe a little in my off time but just to know how bad top players have it

high island
#

No Hestia.

stone rune
#

just a little off time

high island
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No Lady Aphrodite boons.

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No Lady Aphrodite theme.

stone rune
#

my save glitched

#

i'm actually using passion flare

royal widget
#

wtf Hera enjoyer

sleek robin
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K i’m done

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@stone rune give me reasons why i should like hestia, i don’t find it fun to play and think it doesn’t do enough dmg on bosses

stone rune
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because it has infinite damage

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and fast

sleek robin
#

Infinite ?

stone rune
#

i mean like

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if you get decent chaos and good rarity aph atk

sleek robin
#

I maybe play it wrong, should i just reload and attack to only get charged shots ?

stone rune
#

you can be looking at around a few thousand damage per shot

stone rune
#

lmfao

sleek robin
#

Ill try it

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Lol

stone rune
sleek robin
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O*

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Hm

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Typo

high island
#

How evil.

sleek robin
#

…

stone rune
#

how else would you play hestia

sleek robin
#

I was just keeping shooting my normal bullets after shooting the charged one

stone rune
#

yeah thats not good

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ruins your dps

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unless it's on numbskulls

sleek robin
#

Is hestia a skill issue ?

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Jk

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It just one shot most mobs

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I should also try the special build with the 2 hammers

#

But ig that’s not for hestia aspect right

stone rune
#

well

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it's still the best hammers for hestia

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because 400 base damage every 1.5 seconds is like good or something?

#

but it's not special to hestia

sleek robin
#

Ik

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But i think there is an aspect that play with special

royal widget
#

eris

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just benefits more from clockets

sleek robin
#

Of the gun weapon ?

royal widget
#

yes

sleek robin
#

So it would be with this aspect to play this build

#

Hestia’s build is Aphrodite attack and what ?

royal widget
#

tidal dash

sleek robin
#

Ig it’s the best dash

stone rune
#

you start tidal dash for tartarus

sleek robin
#

Achilles build is strong

stone rune
#

if you don't have an attack boon going into asphodel take shackle, if you do and it's below 70% sell it and take shackle, if it's above 70% take artemis for special

sleek robin
#

What is shackle

stone rune
#

sisyphus keepsake

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do you have it levelled up

sleek robin
#

No

stone rune
#

oh

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uh

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i guess take aphrodite into asphodel then

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if you see a natty demeter athena or artemis you can take them and take their atk boon if it's epic

sleek robin
#

At least i got a chance to get sweet nectar

sleek robin
#

Wtf

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1000 dmg with demeter fists kinetic launcher and charged specual

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I*

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With Aphrodite

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How evil is that

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Imagine with bloodstones stuck in them

empty swallow
#

Achilles 86.52% (937 votes)
Theseus 13.48% (146 votes)

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Thank God Theseus got eliminated round 1

high island
#

Which god?

sleek robin
#

Lol

empty swallow
#

I actually wonder what God will get the furthest prob Aphro

sleek robin
#

Is Rama, guan yu or arthur better ?

#

Idk wich to get

stone rune
#

rama >>> guan yu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arthur

sleek robin
#

So rama is the best

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Arthur is bad

stone rune
#

do you have to manually attempt to bypass the filter which is there for a reason

#

you can just say bad

sleek robin
#

Is guan yu funnier or rama ?

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Since they are the 2 best

stone rune
#

guan yu is easier

#

rama is kind of hard

sleek robin
#

I see

stone rune
#

but rama is very strong

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guan yu also quite strong

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but n ot nearly as much so

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i personally would do GY

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but i think it's like

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top 3 or 4 most fun aspects in the game

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and that's me personally

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if you don't like hestia you might not like GY

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although it is a different kind of playstyle

sleek robin
#

Ah

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Thanks for the infos

stone rune
#

what do i take

#

there's a chaos down bottom

sleek robin
#

You use the cast in rama ?

stone rune
#

no

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this is chiron

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and ap2

#

got ap2d into it from chaos

sleek robin
#

I see

stone rune
#

why can i not roll this

raw herald
#

You only have 3 pommables

#

You’re stealing all my epic shots 😭

latent moon
#

it was roiling so you wouldn't have taken it anyways

brisk trail
#

hello do u have any tips for the last fight with hades ? the archer monster are making the fight even harder than the boss himself not to mention the fact that he has two health bars and it's very long to return to him to try and see his patern of attacks (even tho i think i understand every of his moves)

grave chasm
royal widget
#

once you beat his first phase, the enemies he spawns all die btw

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i usually just ignore them

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unless it's the blue crystals

stone rune
brisk trail
royal widget
#

use the pillars

royal widget
brisk trail
#

ye but then he will just dash on me and his ability that looks like darius q does half the map

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i find it boring when bosses has 50k hp imo it would be much better if he just switches to phase 2 at half hp

grave chasm
stone rune
grave chasm
stone rune
#

ddash is not worth pomming

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and atk needs like

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7 poms

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not 2

grave chasm
#

ik, had no better options other than dash

stone rune
#

well

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ddash is worth GETTING

stone rune
#

when you have this many pommables you can't pom what's important to pom

grave chasm
#

also I already cleared every passageway thing and got cerberus to move

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so too late now

stone rune
#

also why doom on shield

grave chasm
#

at least I got a lot of the poseidon perks for knockback though

stone rune
#

that's literally the worst atk you could get on shield tbh

grave chasm
#

really?

stone rune
#

unless you do ME

rustic vale
stone rune
rustic vale
#

Doom is only good if you build merciful end

stone rune
#

hestia can apply doom as fast as shield

grave chasm
stone rune
#

and yeah

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doom just

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sucks

stone rune
rustic vale
#

Instead of

stone rune
#

pos special is not worth the slot it fills

grave chasm
#

@stone rune Just got back into Hades two days ago, what is the best attack with shield/fists, those are my favorite weapons

stone rune
#

fists you either build ME or zeus

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or drunk fists but ehhhhh

grave chasm
#

thanks

#

@stone rune I'm curious, what do you think I should take? I know that support fire is one of the best boons in the game so I'm confounded as to what I should take. https://prnt.sc/X64oMDLqAHW-

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stone rune
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well]

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support fire is not one of the best boons in the game first off

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great on rail and fists but not good otherwise

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and what aspect is this

grave chasm
#

its a shield of chaos run

stone rune
#

also what's your top option

grave chasm
#

rare artemis cast

stone rune
#

hunting blades

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blades is a super great duo

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helpful even if you're not on a castspect

solar vault
#
  • fated prophecy
rustic vale
#

Not even close tbh

stone rune
#

it's rather nice on eris because it's just like another lightning strike

grave chasm
#

yeah

rustic vale
#

Even then

stone rune
#

and a pinnacle of fds builds

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but otherwise yeah

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not useful

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steals your marked

grave chasm
#

I got a heroic support fire on a rail build, kinda skewed my opinion of the boon

rustic vale
#

It’s not proking jolted, or splitting bolt, and it doesn’t have aoe

stone rune
#

lightning strike aoe is not real

rustic vale
#

It is not another lightning strike

stone rune
#

splitting also not real

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jolted sure

rustic vale
#

The aoe is real

#

Because the aoe gives jolted

stone rune
#

yeah aoe for numbskulls

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but it has the same base damage and scales with your buff and fds

rustic vale
stone rune
#

what

rustic vale
#

Support fire also has the weird loopy travel time

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it’s inferior

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in so many ways

stone rune
stone rune
#

i'm not saying it's not

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but it's free extra fds for the family

rustic vale
#

I do agree though

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Rail and fists are where it has uses

grave chasm
latent moon
#

Rare crop isn't particularly useful

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And also impossible at this point unless you force dem

#

Wait no nvm

#

There's a chance I guess

grave chasm
#

I'm only in asphodel, and I have the maxed out demeter keepsake

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I have a chance

latent moon
#

well it being maxed out doesn't matter tbh

#

i guess it'll be decent

stone rune
#

wait

latent moon
#

acorn would be better defensively tho

stone rune
#

where did the athena boon go

latent moon
#

oh was there an athena boon

#

lmao

stone rune
#

no

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miswrote

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meant artemis

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but where did arty go

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only hb rn

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and keepsake on

grave chasm
#

@stone rune sold it because it was just the special, and the only thing it was really doing for me was taking up space when it came to poms

hardy spear
#

wacky build

grave chasm
#

facts

latent moon
#

i mean not wrong about the pom thing i guess lmao

royal widget
#

arty or aphro for spread fir zagrail?

latent moon
#

ME dusa

#

Prob aphro tho

royal widget
#

i will try that

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ok thanks

#

would dire misfortune be usable on Chiron?

latent moon
#

It sucks until you get it then it's funny

grave chasm
stone rune
#

what aspect

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or weapon i guess

#

is this base sword

grave chasm
#

Zagreus aspect fists for the weapon, just finished first encounter in Asphodel

stone rune
#

oh

#

do you not have an aspect for it yet the icon should be there

grave chasm
#

What icon? forgive me, just got back into Hades

stone rune
#

if you have an aspect unlocked it'll be there in your boons

stone rune
grave chasm
#

oh that, nope its default Zagreus with 0 titan blood put into it

stone rune
#

cool

grave chasm
#

so no aspect would be a more apt description

stone rune
#

fists generally prefer flat damage

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dio zoos ares

calm zenith
#

Support Fire can steal and generate mark tbf

#

If you have PP

stone rune
#

well it can also steal and generate mark if you have mark

#

marked is global

calm zenith
#

I usually only take it for Fully Loaded

#

True

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It can just be rapid enough on like fists/rail that pp matters

#

Then I usually try to sell it if I do get Fully Loaded

#

Even if it can be okay its stealing poms potentially

stone rune
#

fully loaded? what is that

calm zenith
#

And with Mark I'd rather that get poms

#

I need to get a spread fire build going

#

I could just die until I get the hammer

grave chasm
#

for cast

#

Artemis legendary boon

stone rune
#

artemis doesn't have a legendary

calm zenith
#

I think they're joking because it's hard to get

#

And a goal of a lot of cast builds

#

If not just all

stone rune
#

it's actually a goal for like

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no cast builds

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massive waste of time

calm zenith
#

fair yeah

stone rune
#

you need like multiple t2 boons

#

or t1 whatever

calm zenith
#

There are other sources

stone rune
#

and even if you have it open it only really exists on legacy gaming

calm zenith
#

Just wasnt sure which way you were going.

stone rune
#

and only if you have rolls left

calm zenith
#

Fair. I tend to get what I want often enough

#

Sometimes I get lucky or can manipulate yarns and refreshing nectar better.

stone rune
#

because if you're on pride and you've rolled for mirage and hermes those 3 extra artys would be much better spent on like poms

calm zenith
#

Fair

#

That's consistency. I try to go for more than that usually.

#

I've gotten much better at holding duo openings until the right time though

#

Had an Athena legendary potentially block ME the other day though

stone rune
#

🔶

calm zenith
#

Wasnt doing lots of work though. I wasnt getting hit much

stone rune
#

if both were open it definitely blocked it

calm zenith
#

I guess its solid for gilgaME

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Yeah lol

stone rune
#

because lego duo roll the same

calm zenith
#

My mistske

stone rune
#

why r u taking riposte though

calm zenith
#

Still got it in Elysium

#

Best option + couldn't sell it without using a reroll

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On trying to get ME previously from Athena in Asphodel.

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I think it was that and her DD boons which I know are good, but I do 0 heat gaming.

#

Probably should have taken it anyway

#

Oh well

#

I may have wanted it temporarily for potentially Witch's Circle idk

#

I just know I couldn't sell it and I was short on rerolls

rotund vault
#

I won with a fun monkey build :V Poseidon Dash with rupture boon and Hermes +3 dashes boon. It felt like i was in permanent Poseidon's Aid lmao

royal widget
#

try it on Gilgamesh

stone rune
#

watching this streamer do 32 for the first time and their pact looked really easy despite being weird and i was like "wow this might actually be a better pact" and then boom em4 jumpscare

royal widget
#

do you only use em4 by 50 heat?

stone rune
#

you mostly use em4 at 55+ i think

latent moon
#

lmfao

#

em4 jumpscare based

latent moon
#

because after you take em4 you have to take a bunch of the other pacts like hl, fo, etc
and fo2 hl5 em4 dad is not a fun time

#

at like between 20-50 there's no point in taking em4 if you just want the heat number pb

feral belfry
#

I did take EM4 at 45 with Beo though cause beo

latent moon
#

yeah that's fair lmao

#

beo can do em4 at 40 if it wanted to

#

wouldn't really recommend it if someone wants to reach 40 for the first time tho lmao

sleek robin
#

Is achilles the speedrun build ?

limber ether
#

on spear? yeah

royal widget
#

funny how zagshield has higher heat record than beo

raw herald
#

RI3 op

worldly harness
#

what happens to the keepsakes if you have bonds with their owners

royal widget
#

nothing

worldly harness
#

you can't be serious

#

whats the point of ambrosia then

#

just some more boring dialogues?

royal widget
#

and up to 5 chance of 6 different combat assists

worldly harness
#

Does pressure points do anything if I already have deadly strike and true shot

#

I mean does it stack or something

gray apex
#

It stacks

#

Pressure points also applies to everything

pastel monolith
#

its pretty fun to try to pom pressure points to absurd levels

#

big PP

brisk trail
#

should i get the game on pc switch or ps5

royal widget
#

pc for input choice

brisk trail
#

alright

pastel monolith
#

pc would best bc u can use mods
ps5 im sure would be great but no mods
switch ive heard good things but i think it has slightl framerate drops at times or slightly lower resolution or something.. but ive heard ppl have great experience on switch

#

hopefully you have a good controller for pc.. so u can play with controller which is kinda how its meant to be played.. but some ppl prefer mousr and keyboard anyway.. i think having the option is best like maddie said

#

i play on xbox and i love it but im sad i cant get mods

brisk trail
#

are mods that important for the experience? obv you dont need them but for some games theyre a big part of the community

#

eg minecraft, sims, stardew

pastel monolith
#

not important at all

#

but there are some cool ones

#

with fanmade content

brisk trail
#

ive never played a game that felt better on mnk, except the sims

pastel monolith
#

abd some that help speedrunning

#

mods are definitely not important for the experience.. i never had mods and its still my favorite game ever.. im just jealous of the pc players sometimes when i se them and their fancy mods

brisk trail
#

lmao

royal widget
#

they are a game changer yes

#

got my pb by 6 minutes

brisk trail
#

oops

#

im on a mac so its not powerful i probably wont be installing hella mods

royal widget
#

i just got the qol basics

brisk trail
#

i play the sims with 1 mod on the lowest graphics and my mac is STRUGGLING

#

ps5 it is

pastel monolith
#

ya if ur pc isnt that good id go ps5 100%

#

thats why i play on xbox .. my pc is junk

#

also it was free on gamepass for a while thats how i got started

brisk trail
#

alr thank yall

stone rune
brisk trail
royal widget
#

no it's just not built for extremely high level play

stone rune
#

not a dev fault

#

just an inherence with the gente

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