#h1-discussion

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radiant vale
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how hard will i have to punch hades to knock him out

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without killing

manic vine
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HE VERY MUCH HURTS.

royal widget
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hehehe

manic vine
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Why am I not surprised

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I was close

royal widget
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have you tried dodging?

manic vine
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Yes.

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Many times

radiant vale
manic vine
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Yes.

radiant vale
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basically dodging but you dont spam

manic vine
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I was not spamming

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But I WAS USING FISTS

royal widget
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i wonder what the best aspect for Charon fight is

radiant vale
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if that doesn't work, have you tried just ignoring him and go through the door saving your dodges only for his attacks and play slow

manic vine
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Til don't rob the riverman.

limber ether
manic vine
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Not fists

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I speak from experience

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Not fists

radiant vale
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also i think he just has 500 or 1k less hp than actual dad

rustic vale
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Charon fight is fine with any aspect

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the best aspects for him would just be the aspects that perform better then the rest normally

sleek robin
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Someone knows a build that is strong from the beginning ?

stone rune
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start aphrodite

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take heartbreak strike

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win

sleek robin
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Ty

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I struggle since i changed from chiron

raw herald
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Rama with twin shot and heartbreak strike is also very strong from the start

sleek robin
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I tried nemesis and demeter but i die in the early so it was hard to manage the end

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Rama is hidden ?

stone rune
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but it’s fine without probably

sleek robin
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I don’t think it’s that easy

raw herald
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Is your hestia level5

stone rune
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uh

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it kinda is that easy tbh

sleek robin
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Yes

stone rune
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you can take artemis into asphodel and do her special

raw herald
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That + splash dash for small enemies and you’ll be overkill for Tartarus

sleek robin
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I see

stone rune
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starting splash makes tart easier but you need scaling into aspho

raw herald
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And using fiery presence

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It’s very important

stone rune
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fiery is an extra 112 damage on your first shot

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very big

sleek robin
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What is it

raw herald
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Mirror perk

stone rune
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mirror option

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very first one

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green side

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opposite of shadow presence

sleek robin
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I see

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I put all poms on attack ?

raw herald
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A good few on dash

stone rune
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well

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pom it two to four times

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that’s good enough

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take poseidon keepsake into asphodel

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and take his dash

sleek robin
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Aphodel is the 2nd zone ?

stone rune
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yes

sleek robin
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Is there any good duo boons ?

stone rune
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eh

sleek robin
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Sweet nectar ?

stone rune
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hestia can do with a very lean build

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sweet nectar you can get

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but poms on tdash and strike both fall off after a while

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you can do with very little

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a fine strategy on hestia is to literally not get any boons and just use shackle

sleek robin
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Shackle ?

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And why not get any boons

stone rune
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it's just a meme run

raw herald
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Because shackle gives bonus attack/special/cast damage when the core boon slot is empty

stone rune
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but it literally works not nearly as awfully as you'd think without any boons

raw herald
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Hestia scales best with chaos, hammers and hermes, not really duo boons

stone rune
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because hestia can do with a mega lean build

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yeah on hestia the hammers are

raw herald
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Smoldering air and heart rend are probably the 2 best ones

sleek robin
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I see

stone rune
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clockets > hazard (imo) > ricochet > piercing > explosive > targeting or targeting > explosive whatever

sleek robin
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But what is shackle ?

stone rune
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shackle is sisyphus's keepsake

sleek robin
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Oh

stone rune
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gives you +100% attack, special, and cast damage when those don't have a core boon filled associated with them

sleek robin
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So i should use this instead of accorn

stone rune
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no

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useless if you're starting heartbreak strike

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because once you fill that slot, you don't get the boost anymore

sleek robin
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I see

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Ty

stone rune
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but yeah simple gameplan for hestia is start eternal rose (aphrodite) and take her strike > take poseidon next and take his dash > just get whatever

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ideally you want aphrodite or artemis also on the special

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but athena and demeter work, and poseidon if you have hazard instead of rocket bomb

sleek robin
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I have rocket bomb rn

stone rune
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cool

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for your 2nd hammer look for cluster bomb

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cluster rocket is bugged to have full damage

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so you have a 400 damage melee nuke in your hands if you get it

sleek robin
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Lol

brisk trail
rustic vale
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No

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it doesn’t suffer from the -30% of cluster bomb is what they mean

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So you get a 400 base damage shotgun special

royal widget
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damage calculations are fun

acoustic apex
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I'm trying to get the hidden aspect for Exagryph and for some reason, I can't get Zeus to mention it, depsite maxing out the needed titans blood to upgrade the damn thing. Anyone know what I should do?

royal widget
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keep talking to him

rustic vale
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Have you spoken to zeus with a rail equipped and gotten the first phrase?

acoustic apex
rustic vale
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Rng dialogue

acoustic apex
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Despite going for his boons.

rustic vale
acoustic apex
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Bro screw that. I seriously need Jesus Christ himself to sprinkle Pixie dust on my RNG don't I?

rustic vale
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not really

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It’ll happen eventually

royal widget
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pray to Zeus not to Jesus, silly

rustic vale
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Also do you have gy revealed?

acoustic apex
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Screw that guy. He a douche in greek mythos

rustic vale
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seems like a stupid question but people miss that part too often

acoustic apex
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I have both Coranacht and Varatha hidden aspect.

rustic vale
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k

acoustic apex
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Yeah. I got Coranacht on like my third Artemis boon using the Bow.

brisk trail
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Idk why but I then to get the awakening frases almost instantly every time I go for them(I have all hidden aspects unlocked now)

balmy ginkgo
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not sure i understand how merciful end works

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i apply any doom effect then every time i attack with an athena attack it procs?

royal widget
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clink

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yeah

high island
latent moon
balmy ginkgo
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how do you constantly reapply doom though

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im using spear and special is kinda trash for it

latent moon
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Doom on the attack

balmy ginkgo
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dont you want athena on attack?

latent moon
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Athena on special only to open the duo, and once you get the duo you can proc the doom with Athena dashes

balmy ginkgo
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makes more sense

latent moon
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Nope

balmy ginkgo
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what......

raw herald
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Doom on attack and athena on dash means you can dash strike quickly and proc doom with the dash

balmy ginkgo
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but if doom is on the attack, how do you trigger the deflection?

raw herald
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Dash

balmy ginkgo
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so because dash deflects

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attack gets deflection + doom?

latent moon
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Dash doesn't open the duo but it will work for procing the duo

high island
balmy ginkgo
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then im confused

raw herald
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Attack gets doom

balmy ginkgo
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just the dash itself is enough to trigger from the dash damage?

raw herald
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Like normal

balmy ginkgo
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ehhhhhh

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okay

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i guess

latent moon
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Inflict doom with attack
Dash through with divine dash to proc ME and have doom drop immediately

high island
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You inflict Doom first. And then any ability that can deflect and that touches that enemy will immediately trigger Doom.

latent moon
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Would this work with Athena's revenge boon lol I would assume so if they're close enough

high island
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Yes.

latent moon
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Vengeful mood ME time

royal widget
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i tried it

latent moon
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How'd that go

royal widget
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pointless

latent moon
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Makes sense

royal widget
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o think I had Zeus athena dem

wispy quarry
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my brain is trying and failing to conjure up a weird madoka magica hades au......

brisk trail
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My brain just came up with the idea how stupidly funny it would be if zag was in monster hunter bouldy

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For some reason I see him riding Bazel into combat

sleek robin
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What is the strongest and easy spear build ?

brisk trail
stone rune
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attack?

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guan yu wants special

sleek robin
stone rune
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guan yu's attack is nearly identical to regular spear's

brisk trail
stone rune
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meme spin can be funny

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but gy's strength 100% comes from its special

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and then ME lmfao

brisk trail
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I once just melted hades with a Arti and pink gall duo boon dusa

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The Athena call also helped with that

sleek robin
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Always this ME it’s annoying to get

stone rune
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GY has a fun ME build

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you can start athena and take special

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and then bring ares into asphodel

brisk trail
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I barely use MEbouldy

stone rune
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ME is GY's strongest build

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because the athena special cleans up tart and aspho and if you get it online ME will wipe out ely

sleek robin
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Well if you manage to get it

stone rune
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prayge

brisk trail
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I never have problems with getting duo boonsbouldy

royal widget
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props

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i sure do

calm zenith
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GY can do some solid spin builds that arent memes at all. You could do a Heart Rend build. Aphro attack Artemis special. Ideally Hunter Dash I guess. Hammers can vary a lot and you can adjust accordingly and just dash strike instead of spin, but generally you really want Charged Skewer.

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The spin builds usually more come into play if you get Quick Spin

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Massive works too apparently but it's been a while. Avoid the unique one that just extends spin travel length and duration.

high island
sleek robin
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Thanks

rustic vale
calm zenith
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Fair stance to have

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Id usually just go for dash strikes too

royal widget
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imagine how terrifying hades multiplayer would be

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facing off against clockets you'd need 100x the health to stand a chance

mint coral
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"blocked!"

royal widget
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oooh festive fog sounds interesting

stone rune
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what does this have to do with hades

livid mist
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wait i cant help with localization now??

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what if i found a translation error

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dang lmao

wintry moat
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can someonee ping me the lucifer guide?(is there a guide?)

stone rune
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it's just eris

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but harder

wintry moat
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okay

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I'm thinking about running zeus, any thoughts?

stone rune
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that's the plan

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lucifer does well with zap

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zeus artemis poseidon

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zeus on atk artemis on special poseidon on dash

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get jolted

wintry moat
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mmk, ty

tropic grail
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Does anyone know what the orange and black rings that sometimes appear around Zagreus mean?

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For some reason I can’t upload a picture

royal widget
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battle rage?

latent moon
tropic grail
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It isn’t the ares dd ability

latent moon
latent moon
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Oh that's from a bp perk

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There's a perk that makes you slower when you're near them

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It's the same effect as targeting system

tropic grail
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Bp?

latent moon
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Benefits package

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Pact condition

tropic grail
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Oh that makes so much sense

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I never knew what that one did

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Thank you for the help! That has plagued me for months

latent moon
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That one either slows or pulls you in, don't exactly remember but that creates thst effect

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Lol np

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If you pick up the targeting system hammer on rail, enemies will also have that same affect

tropic grail
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Cool

rustic vale
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Pulls I believe

rustic vale
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Or not end up in it in the first place

latent moon
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yeah lmao

rustic vale
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Or kill the enemy before it has any real effect

latent moon
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i dont think i got that perk when i played fists on 32

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or if i did it was irrelevant lmao

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the only ones that are relevant are like 2x damage, speeder, seeking, savior, and cloner

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prob others but i dont remember them all

wild cipher
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When you beat the champions of Elysium with only 7 health left 😫😫

acoustic apex
wild cipher
acoustic apex
acoustic apex
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Of course!

stone rune
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it's a mobile melee nuke

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because it's bugged

acoustic apex
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It really is.

stone rune
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rockets don't get the -30% base damage

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so you have 400 base damage every 1.5 odd seconds

acoustic apex
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I do it and it’s like 2k damage if you hit all the rockets on a boss. Use Poseidon’s tempest flourish and demeters chill on attack with a decay effect and it will become GOD WEAPON.

stone rune
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artemis special is BiS

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you have a 68% chance to crit at least once

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or aphrodite

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because aphrodite just gives huge damage lol

rustic vale
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Yup

acoustic apex
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I like the knock back especially with Razor Shoals!

rustic vale
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Actually poseidon special is best in slot on like nothing

stone rune
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the knockback is generally detrimental

rustic vale
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same issue with tempest strike

stone rune
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which is why most clockets based weapons avoid it unless you get it in styx

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in which case it counts as a cope but also why did you not force arty

acoustic apex
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I’ll totally try Artemis Special on it next time!!

stone rune
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yeah

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on hestia, aphrodite attack and artemis special with heart rend is amazing

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or without heart rend it's still amazing

acoustic apex
stone rune
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because it's hestia

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and hestia is the BEST WEAPON EVER

latent moon
acoustic apex
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I always use Hestia. It’s FIRE.

stone rune
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💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪

rustic vale
stone rune
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if the new ocke was wr

latent moon
stone rune
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GY has a case because shoals im p sure

latent moon
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Yeah

acoustic apex
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Nah, the aspects for weapons I use are Hesita, Charon, Zooz, Talos until i have Gilgamesh, and Nemesis.

stone rune
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needs more zagbow

latent moon
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what happened to spear

stone rune
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not real

latent moon
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fair

stone rune
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hadesspear tf2

acoustic apex
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Never used spear other than normal Varatha.

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I have all the aspects tho

stone rune
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achilles is cool

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guan yu super fun

acoustic apex
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Yeah true. It’s pretty good, but i’m not a fan of the rush on it

acoustic apex
rustic vale
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guan-yu is actually omega based

acoustic apex
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Whenever i do runs i always have like 200-400 health

stone rune
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i used to be like that too lol

rustic vale
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Yup

stone rune
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now i end runs with 125

rustic vale
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Then realised that taking more boons poms and obols is going farther

stone rune
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70 if i can help it

latent moon
rustic vale
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Because winning faster means less damage taken

stone rune
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society if achilles boost was global

acoustic apex
latent moon
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would you like 150% more damage on the dash strike

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just spam the special button twice quickly, kinda like a pseudo dash

rustic vale
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achilles buff applies to dash strike

latent moon
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spam it twice, dash strike twice, repeat

acoustic apex
latent moon
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lmao is it working

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but wait there's more

rustic vale
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It better be working

latent moon
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what if

rustic vale
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cast builds

latent moon
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you had the game play itself by getting hunting blades on achilles

rustic vale
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What if there was another input you could do for massive damage

latent moon
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and have that do 150% more damage for free

stone rune
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what if you had it play itself even more with meme beams

rustic vale
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literally

stone rune
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dont even need to pick up your stones

rustic vale
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The 2 best in slot attacks for achilles also have really good casts to pair with them

latent moon
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but yeah achilles is super flexible, the 150% damage to atk and cast makes it really strong

acoustic apex
latent moon
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i can assure you i dont actually speak like a sales person lmao

acoustic apex
rustic vale
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Like deadly strike -> slickng shot -> hunting blades or lightning strike -> phalanx shot -> lightning phalanx

rustic vale
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either way you just take tidal dash in tartarus and build oof what you find in tart

acoustic apex
latent moon
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festive fog is also a good pick up

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even tho you can't cycle the cast damage, it'll get you through a wave pretty quickly

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ice wine is prob worth looking for at that point

acoustic apex
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(Also, i just started playing hades on my PC on sunday and i have 57 hours on it.)

rustic vale
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Neat

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I think I have 350 or 400 hours idk

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Mine are rookie numbers

acoustic apex
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I’ve had it for a week man

stone rune
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i have

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226.4

latent moon
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i just passed 400 recently lmao

rustic vale
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I meant mine are rookie numbers

latent moon
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but 57 hours in a week is kinda a lot lmao

rustic vale
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57 hours in a week is like

latent moon
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8 hours a day?

acoustic apex
rustic vale
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That was me back when I played destiny 2

latent moon
acoustic apex
rustic vale
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I kind of just

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Fully stopped playing

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And I almost got back into it

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But then I saw the issue and stopped

stone rune
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destiny's the bad titanfall right

rustic vale
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Titanfall is the bad titanfall

stone rune
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i guess so

acoustic apex
stone rune
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it was alright when i played it

acoustic apex
rustic vale
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I play apex occasionally with my friends and there is a massive skill difference between me and them because I play maybe twice a month and they play every day

latent moon
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make them play hades

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show them hades skill diff

rustic vale
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Hades: Multiplayer when?

stone rune
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theres only 1 game i have a bunch of hours in

acoustic apex
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Yeah, I play like four times a week and it’s still hard as hell for me

acoustic apex
latent moon
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jesus christ

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i feel like "a bunch" is really underselling it there

stone rune
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i enjoyed none of them

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worst game i've ever played

latent moon
acoustic apex
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Apex is the game I have the most hours in but I want Hades to be second some day.

void vigil
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i have no game that i have near that amount of hours on shadeohboy

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hades is my most played at more than 600

acoustic apex
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Oh hey, it’s a mod lol.

void vigil
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just shy of 500 on steam and i think epic used to say 120, but i dont know how accurate it is

acoustic apex
void vigil
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it used to count in days then so i converted it iirc

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i should check again but i dont want to download it

acoustic apex
radiant vale
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HELP ME I AM ADDICTED TO FRUIT YOGURT

latent moon
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no wonder your wasd looks like crap

muted glen
brisk trail
muted glen
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Lmaoo

brisk trail
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As someone that has spended more hours playing PvZ games than I’m willing to admit I can enjoy seeing others have that much time in itdusa

calm zenith
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I have like 2200 hours in darkest dungeon

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A lot if that isnt actually playing tbf

sleek robin
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Someone knows how to play zeus shield ? Ik its build since it’s the same as chiron but it’s hard to play imo

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I need to beat the game at least once with the shield and i already have zeus maxed, when i will get the titan blood from beating the game with every weapon i will invest in chaos aspect

gray apex
sleek robin
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Maybe the video is outdated

gray apex
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Zeus is a tough weapon, it takes a lot of practice to make the most out of the movement and have your dps be optimal at all times. Baj is a great Zeus player, you could watch some of their videos to get a better understanding.

sleek robin
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I build chiron, dio special aphrodite attack

gray apex
gray apex
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It's better to for Thunder Flourish and try to get more Zeus boons like Static Discharge

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The attack is nice but it's not something you aim for unless you have Charged Shot, just pick up anything with general utility

sleek robin
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The one that gives jolted ?

sleek robin
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N*

gray apex
sleek robin
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I see

sleek robin
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I also try to get smoldering air ?

gray apex
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Yea, Zeus is pretty good at building call meter so you want to get a Call regardless, but if you have Aphro in the pool then Smoldering Air will make it even better

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Zeus Dio Athena are the strongest Calls.

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Poseidon is solid too but will stop your dps rotation

sleek robin
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I should get athena’s dash ?

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Or tidal dash

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Since it pushes

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With tidal i could also get sweet nectar

gray apex
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They're both decent options, Tidal Dash can be tough to play around because of the knockback. And Athena is always good, on Zeus shield tho, you're almost always safe once you get used to blocking and bullrushing

sleek robin
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And on what should i use poms mainly ?

gray apex
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Special, Static Discharge and Call, if you pick up Tidal Dash or Blade Dash you could put a couple into that aswell

sleek robin
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I see ty

gray apex
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Flat damage attacks also benefit from poms, if you pick up something like an Epic Curse of Agony it'd be nice to pom that once for example. But in the end it all depends on the build and how the runs goes, if you happen to get a lot of the stuff I mentioned early on in the run, you'll have a lot of stuff that wants poms.

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I suggest you read what Baj was talking about in that link I sent earlier so you can pilot the build well. Since I can't help much with that given my limited Zeus experience.

sleek robin
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Hmm

sleek robin
rotund vault
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Maaaan i was so close to ny first clear with hangover fists. Hades second phase screwed me. Worst part is I couldve played better but I got greedy 😦 I had a common tier hangover atk buff pommed to lvl 7 lmao

sleek robin
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Now i can get another hammer or zeus boon

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So idk what to get

sleek robin
rotund vault
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It felt very powerful and I was playing monkey the whole time

sleek robin
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Lol

solar vault
rotund vault
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Well tbh it was my Hermes buffs that carried the build. I had the purple tier +speed and sturdy after dash and a blue tier increase attack based on movespeed thing

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Basically I do 1 dash attack and shields pop

sleek robin
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Cuz explosive return is hard

mint coral
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Zeus shield?

sleek robin
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Yea

mint coral
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Explosive

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Minotaur rush is never really worth

sleek robin
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And blow ?

solar vault
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explosive return is good on zeus but if you're not using it right then I guess it doesn't matter as much

mint coral
solar vault
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blow is like fine I guess

mint coral
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Also slighty increases the time before bluck so that can mess you up

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Also explosive is the 2nd best hammer for zeus lol

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(and only bc charged shot is charged shot)

sleek robin
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I see thanks

sleek robin
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On gilgamesh the upgrade is the burst of damage when we put the mark right ?

royal widget
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yes

sleek robin
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In its ME build do we use it ?

royal widget
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it's the debuff that's important, not the delayed damage

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upgrading it isn't needed

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or

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don't rush upgrading

sleek robin
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I don’t know what to upgrade rn

royal widget
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Hera

sleek robin
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So it’s a cast build

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Hmm

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I will upgrade it and when it’s maxed i will play it

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I can save many blood if i just unlock aspects like demeter and gilgamesh

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And if i don’t upgrade zargeu’s too

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I don’t understand how chaos can be good

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It don’t seem to deal lots of damage

royal widget
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chaos is one of the worst aspects

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the wr literally never uses the special

sleek robin
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I tought it was a good one

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What attack should he have since we mainly bull rush special ?

royal widget
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heartbreak strike

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and charge shot

sleek robin
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Charge shot is a hammer upgrade right

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And tidal dash ?

solar vault
sleek robin
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I will try it after my chaos shield run

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Do u have a build for hera ?

royal widget
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crush shot

solar vault
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prioritize crush shot (aph cast) and get as many poms as you can onto it, at least 4 I'd say
hammers: flurry is good, twin shot is good, point blank and perfect are fine too
demeter boons like snow burst and rav will are good support

royal widget
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aphro > Athena > Poseidon > dio

sleek robin
#

I see ty

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It’s been 4 times that i have aphro but dob’t get strike and only her special in heroic to replace my zeus

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How is it possible

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I even reset the boon 4 times

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It was still there

royal widget
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you only reset your seed by dying

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give up only lets you try again

sleek robin
#

No no

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No reset the run

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The 3 boons

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By using the thing from the mirror

solar vault
#

just bad luck bouldy

sleek robin
#

I didn’t get any hammer in 1st zone

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This sucks

royal widget
#

oh don't use fated authority

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use fated persuasion

sleek robin
#

?

solar vault
#

you mean no hammer in tartarus?

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I don't think they're using fauth lol

sleek robin
sleek robin
sleek robin
#

Except the mirror is there a way to get more chance of having a legendary boon ?

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In some build is need splitting bolt

royal widget
#

gods' legacy

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swapped from gods' pride

sleek robin
#

Except the mirror

royal widget
#

yarn of ariadne

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btw how good is blown kiss on hera?

sleek robin
solar vault
#

apparently it extends the deadzone where it doesn't hit right in front of the arrow so I'm too scared to try it

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yarns from wells and nectar from eurydice increase rarity, but legendaries usually aren't consistent to get

sleek robin
#

Yea since it upgrades

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It don’t modify

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Legendary boons are unique

solar vault
#

I'm pretty sure they work

sleek robin
#

I’m not

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I don’t know if we can verify somewhere

royal widget
#

yarn boosts chances of leg/duo

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i knoww this

sleek robin
#

So i can get more chance from eurydice

royal widget
#

yeah that too

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sweet nectar

solar vault
#

if you search "nectar duo" and click on someone who asked the question you'll get a million responses saying yes it does

sleek robin
#

Sweet nectar is for poms

royal widget
#

refreshing nectar

sleek robin
#

I see thanks

gray apex
#

Chaos Favor also boosts Legendary chances

balmy ginkgo
#

what goes best with world splitter?

royal widget
#

backstab + arty/aphro

balmy ginkgo
#

why arty?

#

just damage flat?

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and if you go backstab and arty

#

why not athena for exposed?

royal widget
#

i forgot about that

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seems like you know what to do

balmy ginkgo
#

styg is my worst weapon by far

#

also another question - if i get a god and i remove him, does it reset my 4 god limit per run?

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or am i stuck with it?

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for example if i had 4 gods and only 1 boon from zeus, and i removed zeus with the pool thing

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am i still stuck with zeus or does it open that slot up to a new god to spawn?

untold void
#

The advancements you get in hades bedroom. Do they do anything ? Or just bragging rights.

royal widget
#

nothing at all

rustic vale
untold void
#

Cheers

brisk trail
sleek robin
#

What aspect should i get ?

royal widget
#

just whatever looks interesting
you'll unlock them all eventually

sleek robin
#

Yea but i wanna play with new things but if they are bad i wont play with them so i just lose blood

royal widget
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oh ok

sleek robin
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I have lvl 1 hera, max zeus and chaos, max nemesis, max chiron, hestia max

hardy spear
sleek robin
#

Max achilles

royal widget
#

nem, achilles, zeus, hera, hestia, and demeter are all good

sleek robin
#

Demeter is lvl 1

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Gigamesh is one too

hardy spear
#

demeter is pretty level dependant

sleek robin
#

No

hardy spear
#

guess not then

sleek robin
#

It just gives more hits

hardy spear
#

yeah

sleek robin
#

It’s the same dmg of special

royal widget
#

6 punches is more than 1

sleek robin
#

Special hit ??

hardy spear
sleek robin
#

I tought it was bormal

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N*

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Aaaaaa

hardy spear
#

nah at max level the special nukes things with a rapid 6 hits

sleek robin
#

Ima upgrade it ig

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Like that it will change from gilgamesh ME

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This game has so many ways to play

royal widget
#

fists really suck without good % buffs lol

sleek robin
#

U mean boons ?

royal widget
#

yes

brisk trail
#

Hmmm just a question what god has the highest atk% on a special attack boon

sleek robin
#

I didn’t really check a demeter build but that’s not important rn cuz i will first ipgrade it

sleek robin
stone rune
#

whoops

sleek robin
#

?

stone rune
#

nothing important

sleek robin
#

Isn’t it athena ?

brisk trail
stone rune
#

fists often beg for rarity

sleek robin
#

I can’t find % on wiki

stone rune
#

atk base +40%

sleek robin
#

Lol

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How long u play to know that

stone rune
#

that depends

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let me find that spreadsheet

#

wel

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undoubtedly the two top two are aph and arty

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whoops

sleek robin
#

Lol

royal widget
#

i could have sworn Poseidon was highest flourish

stone rune
#

lol no

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he does 70

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aph is 80

sleek robin
#

Jazz in gilgamesh builds do we use maim or not really ?

stone rune
#

i hate fists

royal widget
#

i think you only use it for debuff

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maim takes 4s

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so

sleek robin
#

Prob

stone rune
#

i mean

sleek robin
#

But idk

stone rune
#

they hit you a lot harder

sleek robin
#

Indeed

royal widget
#

just dodge

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you got +2 dashes

stone rune
#

on gilga lol

sleek robin
#

Last time i got 6 dodges with it

stone rune
#

the dashes are small and have a longer cooldown

sleek robin
#

Was amazing

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But u take athena’s dash

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Wich protects you

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And u can also take the hermes boon that makes you sturdy

stone rune
#

no hermes makes you sturdy

sleek robin
#

If you also have greater reflex from him again u won’t really care about it ig

sleek robin
#

That’s what i said

stone rune
#

there’s no hermes boon that gives you sturdy

sleek robin
#

When u dash

stone rune
#

that doesn’t exist

sleek robin
#

And u also get boost of speed

stone rune
#

wait

sleek robin
#

0.5 sec after dashing

stone rune
#

that’s hyper sprint

sleek robin
#

Yea

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Idk the name

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With all of that ur protected

stone rune
#

wait what

sleek robin
#

?

stone rune
#

i never knew that gave you sturdy

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i’ve taken it so many times

#

wild

hardy spear
#

hyper sprint does give you sturdy

sleek robin
#

Lmao

stone rune
#

all i know is big rd

sleek robin
#

Now you know at least

rustic vale
#

Ngl

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I’m not surprised

royal widget
mint coral
stone rune
#

why would i read the boon

limber ether
#

Wtf jazz

mint coral
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Speedrunning and missing info on plain sight

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Classic

stone rune
#

gotta bring rta down

mint coral
#

I've never bothered with rta

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mainly cuz i play on switch

latent moon
#

Didn't some top player also not realize hyper sprint gave sturdy or like sturdy was useful lmao

stone rune
#

i believe there’s a term for that

mint coral
#

I know nyaanyaa has linked it at some point

latent moon
#

Was it bigp

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Oh NVM then

high island
latent moon
#

Lmfao

mint coral
#

There it is

stone rune
#

silly goose

stone rune
limber ether
#

Surely mirrorless boonless 32+ heat counts

high island
#

There's a difference, though.

stone rune
high island
#

Tailesque at least knew that Hyper Sprint made you sturdy.

stone rune
#

angel did 50 right

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or 48 without ap

high island
#

He didn't know that Sturdy reduced damage taken by 30%.

stone rune
#

33 heat on boonless mirrorless is functionally just more rng 8 heat

limber ether
#

Lmao what did he think it did?

#

Just no interrupted attacks?

high island
#

Yes.

high island
stone rune
stone rune
#

wait i just thought she floated the broom

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that’s so cool

royal widget
#

same

latent moon
#

That's a feather duster not a broom i thought

stone rune
#

same difference

royal widget
#

same thing fundamentally

stone rune
#

but you have hers

latent moon
#

Well I guess lmao

#

Anything can be a feather duster if you wanted it to

high island
#

You're a feather duster.

stone rune
#

she gave it tae you

#

how much do the feather duster healings do

royal widget
#

single digit

latent moon
#

it's once per room

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idk if it's a chance for once per room, or it's guaranteed to be once per room

#

but you can only get it once per room max

rustic vale
#

What’s next

brisk trail
#

dusa bestgirl and ya cant change my minddusa

rustic vale
#

Jazz not knowing that jolted proks off enemy attacks?

mint coral
#

Not knowing that hunter's mark crit chance is global dusa

royal widget
mint coral
#

(that one has already happened to someone)

latent moon
royal widget
#

yeah i just didn't know the extent

stone rune
#

everyone knows jolted is just like splitting bolt

#

also why does splitting bolt not proc off itself

royal widget
#

fr

high island
#

Why does Splitting Bolt not inflict Splitting Headache?

warped fern
#

so ive got guan yu. how do i unlock the rest tho? like ik who tot alk to but idk how to trigger it. i read somewhere something along the lines give an aspect 5 blood but do i need to do it on like every aspect or wvery weapon or like how does it work

solid forge
#

when do i get the mystery aspect on my weapon i beat the game twice now

warped fern
stone rune
sleek robin
#

Bahahah the shield is so strong lmao

#

Hades barely hit me i can just block everything and the zoos call hit him

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And use my special when he don’t attack it’s too strong

stone rune
#

don’t special unless it’s zeus

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shield special useless

sleek robin
#

Chaos

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It’s special based

brisk trail
#

Hidden aspect from the shield is OP if u ask me bouldy

sleek robin
#

I don’t know

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What does gateway erebus does

mint coral
#

No hit challenges basically

mint coral
sleek robin
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

sleek robin
mint coral
# mint coral No hit challenges basically

You need to have the required heat to enter (5, 10 or 15 depending on the biome)
The reward shown when you enter one is similar to the ones that you get from mini bosses in styx

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You need to do it without being hit or you get an onion

sleek robin
#

What does onion do

mint coral
#

Heals 1 hp

sleek robin
#

Nice

mint coral
#

And Eurydice comments on it if you one iirc

sleek robin
#

What does mini bosses gives ?

mint coral
#

Minibosses in styx double the reward (this also applies for erebus)
So poms gives 2 levels

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Gold gives 200 coins and gods have rarity increase

sleek robin
#

And boons ?

mint coral
#

Hearts give +50 hp

sleek robin
#

Like the 2 boons things

mint coral
#

The pick one fight the other?

#

Or you mean duo boons

sleek robin
#

When you pick one of the two gods the other gets mad

mint coral
#

Trials of the gods dont have increased chances

#

But you cant get duo boons while in one

sleek robin
#

My wifi lagging

sleek robin
sleek robin
#

I didn’t knew

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That’s kinda useful to know

#

I was hoping everytime

mint coral
sleek robin
#

I see ty

sleek robin
#

ME gilgamesh build is wild with 7 dash

calm zenith
#

Minibosses in Styx that give boons have higher rarity. Same reason why some shop boons there cost 450

sleek robin
#

And that’s why hermes cost 500

#

And that’s why i got epic greater reflex

calm zenith
#

Hermes just baseline costs 500 because of how he changes your kit

#

Nice

sleek robin
#

Indeed

calm zenith
#

I dont think the final Hermes boon you can get there is higher rarity

stone rune
#

it is

calm zenith
#

It's just that Hermes boons are precious

#

Okay. Thanks.

sleek robin
#

Fr

#

It can be very helpful in many ways

calm zenith
#

Yeah I've taken Plume there just for Bad News

#

Or the other one

sleek robin
#

Should i buy erberus gate ?

calm zenith
#

If you can take them sure

#

And have enough heat

sleek robin
#

My best heat is 10 with my first hera run

#

But i had to reset for build reasons

calm zenith
#

Elysium erebus gates require 15 heat

stone rune
#

4

sleek robin
#

I see

#

Tu

#

Y*

stone rune
#
Hades Wiki

The Mirror of Night, located in Zagreus's room, was a gift from Nyx to Zagreus to aid him in his attempts to escape the underworld. It is one of the main meta progression systems in Hades.
Reflecting at the Mirror gives Zagreus the ability to spend Darkness gathered from the Underworld to improve his own abilities. However, many of the abilities...

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all levels and costs

proud nexus
#

Make this a meme please
"How many levels of fated persuasion are you on"

sleek robin
#

?

proud nexus
#

You know the how many layers of irony meme

sleek robin
#

No

proud nexus
#

Aw

stone rune
#

i'm on 6 rolls and hermes won't give me the rush delivery

proud nexus
#

Whazzat

stone rune
#

boon

proud nexus
#

O

#

How tf do you get 6

stone rune
#

keys give extra rolls

sleek robin
#

When u have the upgrade

calm zenith
#

It's nice yeah. Nectar gives a random pom upgrade.

sleek robin
#

Bouldy never gave me anything

calm zenith
#

Darkness gives Max hp (5)

stone rune
#

on cast builds, an early nectar can be really big

calm zenith
#

Gems give gold

stone rune
#

and gemstones give coiins

sleek robin
#

Even tho i give him nectar

calm zenith
#

Yeah I love an early nectar on cast builds

#

Nectar c2 or something

proud nexus
stone rune
#

no

#

a nectar gives a random boon +1 lvl

#

and if you only have 1 boon

#

then that's the one that gets a level

proud nexus
#

Oh
Forehead smack

sleek robin
#

What bouldy is supposed to give and why he never does

proud nexus
#

I am really not the smart about this game

stone rune
sleek robin
#

I do

proud nexus
#

You can give gifts to a rock???

sleek robin
#

Gift him

stone rune
#

he gives you a boon

sleek robin
#

Yes

stone rune
#

Heart of Stone

proud nexus
#

!!!

stone rune
#

it gives you a random boost

proud nexus
#

That's actually kinda cool

sleek robin
#

How much % chance ?

stone rune
#

1-10%

#

or 2% ambiguity which does nothing

sleek robin
#

Cuz he just drinking on my bill

stone rune
#

don't gift him if you're actually short nectar

#

the boosts are, most of the time, useless

sleek robin
#

Lol

calm zenith
#

They're for fun

#

Sisyphus is worth taking for gold though

stone rune
#

yeah

#

oh yeah always take sisyphus over anything but a chaos or a shop

#

or a god you need

#

so i guess don't always take sisyphus

#

the other two story rooms are really good though

#

always take patty and eurydice

calm zenith
#

Eurydice most of all if you're trying to get anything rare

#

Take refreshing nectar

stone rune
#

patty is super good for security

calm zenith
#

Yeah

stone rune
#

or if you're safe with your DDs then damage

calm zenith
#

Eurydice can boost you for a Duo, your Hermes boons, your Chaos boons.

stone rune
#

hermes and chaos rarity boosts are really important

#

also i think this advice rn is unsolicited and irrelevant

#

so im gonna lay off lol

calm zenith
#

Fair lol

#

Not getting Eury does just suck though sometimes.

cloud sorrel
#

I'm just sitting in Styx trying to figure out whether to buy two poms or a pom and hermes
anyway hi chat

calm zenith
#

Hmm I forget if you can get 2 Hermes in Elysium

stone rune
#

you can

calm zenith
#

And you dont want your 2nd to rely on the one in Styx

stone rune
#

it's just not likely

calm zenith
#

Yeah

stone rune
#

because you have more menus

calm zenith
#

So I would buy it then

stone rune
#

hammers and refreshed poms, hearts, etc

calm zenith
#

You probably wont see 2 more so you want it now

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Assuming you even need anything from Hermes

calm zenith
#

Usually you may as well take something good. Even Side Hustle is amazing.

stone rune
#

well

#

this is in styx

#

lol

calm zenith
#

Oh yeah. Then buy it.

cloud sorrel
# stone rune hermes

aight, I have Greatest Reflexes so any specific boons I should look out for? Malphon run

calm zenith
#

Hypersprint

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Or RD

stone rune
#

well

#

can't get RD if no sprint or haste

cloud sorrel
#

my other hermes boon is Quick Recovery

calm zenith
#

Yeah

#

Okay so no RD. Probably just hypersprint or an attack/special one

stone rune
#

well

#

swift strike is good

#

if you have a call, quick favor isn't awful

calm zenith
#

Yeah

stone rune
#

quick recovery or greater evasion are helpful for security

#

hyper sprint and haste make you fast

cloud sorrel
#

woo swift flourish! my entire build revolves around special (heals, crits and generally massive damage) so appreciated

stone rune
#

sounds cool

#

idek if it's super effective on fists

#

like if it functionally does what it is supposed tae

#

but if it does

#

very cool

calm zenith
#

Maybe with charged special. I was stuck with that last time I did Demeter

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Did ME

stone rune
#

kinetic launcher is super fun

calm zenith
#

Yeah

#

Charged is awkward to use and can randomly steal your special burst

stone rune
#

kinetic launcher is charged

#

it's good

#

lol

mint coral
#

Ig they mean flying cutter?

calm zenith
#

I do

#

Kinetic is good. Flying is bad.

stone rune
#

oh

calm zenith
#

Kinetic doesnt act weird

royal widget
#

flying lets you do parkour

wintry moat
#

anyone know how many callisto conversations there is with artemis?>

#

I have locked hearts on artemis, ares, and dio. Last 3 for me to finish 🙃

#

I've already done war god's bloodlust but ares is still locked

calm zenith
#

I actually like kick tbh

#

It's sort of like old dash nova

#

That's its use though. Flying through the air on your special and easily connecting.

wintry moat
#

is there a good tier list of builds?

rotund vault
#

I finally beat the game 😭, Support Fire op

mint coral
#

Congrats! Now do it again

calm zenith
#

Support Fire is fun on rapid weapons/aspects

#

Especially with PP and Mark, though sometimes it can steal mark

#

It does end up generating it

#

And then you might get her legendary. If you even want it.

royal widget
#

i remember getting the Lego the other day and it was crazy

calm zenith
#

How do you save scum an anvil again? You just quit?

#

I'm trying to get clockets

#

Have rockets

stone rune
#

dont buy anything else

calm zenith
#

Okay. Thanks.

#

I'm just getting the same result

#

Lose rocket gain delta and triple

stone rune
#

are you manipping

calm zenith
#

Oh no

#

What do I use?

#

I see no pots

tropic grail
#

Hey does anyone know if chaos boons relating to darkness/gems affect boss rewards

calm zenith
#

They do

tropic grail
#

:D

calm zenith
#

I just got 510 darkness from champs

#

Epic Poseidon boon and an Epic Chaos one too

#

So you just do a tunnel?

rotund vault
#

I stood behind the circle walls then attacked. No skill required. Good for me lmao

#

Gl to me beating it with weapons that actually need brain

mint coral
#

Basically anything changes rng

chrome zinc
#

is there a way I can refund titan blood. I accidentally spent it all on aspect of zagreus gun and I don't want that

royal widget
#

nope

#

you can quit and reenter if it's not too late

#

but you'll just have to grind out the rest

chrome zinc
#

damn

rustic python
#

Cheesiest build is using the zeus shield, getting reflect on the spinning blade, then just throw it into a corner and stand behind it blocking as every single enemy walks into the spinning blade and dies and nothing can hit you.

stone rune
#

cheesiest build is doing hestia and killing everything instantly

calm zenith
stone rune
#

opening and scrolling around poseidon's codex menu does a lot

calm zenith
#

Oh and splitting bolt too

calm zenith
#

And a good epic rare crop

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Hit attack special and ocean's bounty

#

I'm going to get 1000 darkness from dad

stone rune
#

is this zap eris

calm zenith
#

Yes

stone rune
#

could have been better if it hit jolted

calm zenith
#

Sea storm clockets for fun

#

Sure

#

Still a good roll

#

Poseidon special actually does lots of dmg

#

And it was only rare

#

Heroic level 9 static discharge would have been pog though

#

It keeps getting poms even though I got a few pommables

#

Might even get 10 since I have mom blossom

#

It just did

latent moon
stone rune
#

3rd if you include critz

latent moon
#

Most of the time it's not preferred because of the knockback

#

But if you're going into heroes and don't have anything on it yet for some reason, pos special isn't bad

#

Wave pounding is neat tho

calm zenith
#

862 darkness from dad damn

#

Yeah I just think sea storm clockets are fun

#

I didnt get enough secondaries really though

#

Or tidal dash like I wanted. I rerolled early on an epic tidal dash trying to get flourish. Didnt get either.

#

Sea storm is just a memey duo it's odd tdash doesnt count

latent moon
#

Too many builds around tdash and Zeus cores probably lmao

#

Rail, various splash start aspects

#

Just made it incredibly easy and likely to get

stone rune
#

was ddash ever an ME prereq

latent moon
#

Probably

raw herald
#

Yeah it was

stone rune
#

sounds funny