#h1-discussion

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silver mica
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My go to hammers for fists are

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Explosive upper, kinetic launcher, concentrated or long knuckle

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Oh and the one that lets you charge your special for more damage

high island
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Breaching Cross is #1.

silver mica
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Forgot what it's called though

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Oh right breaching cross too

high island
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Breaching Cross > Explosive Upper or Kinetic Launcher > Long Knuckle or Colossus Knuckle.

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Pretty much.

silver mica
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I'm not really that into colossus knuckle tbh

high island
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You're probably thinking of Heavy Knuckle. tizomg

silver mica
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Which ones the 40 base one

high island
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Heavy Knuckle.

silver mica
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Three hit sequence

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Oh right

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Colossus is the sturdy one then.

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Yeah that's good

high island
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Yes.

woeful trout
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If I wanted to try a pierced butterfly run which weapon would be the best

high island
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Hestia.

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Chiron and Guan Yu are also good candidates.

woeful trout
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Does Athena legendary still let you keep butterfly

high island
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Yeah, that's not damage.

pastel monolith
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if it were allowed to use summons multiple times in an encounter, how much do u think that would change peoples strategy?

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would we still use them on every miniboss, or maybe save em all up for hades?

latent moon
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prob still use on miniboss

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the armor is tough to break through

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could be a case to skip ely midboss meg if it's butterfly ball

pastel monolith
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ya

latent moon
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witches circle and power couple would def need to meg

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sneak for sure

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doomstone might not have to, inferno bombers could make a case to not i guess

pastel monolith
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i cant get the strategy to meg the tartarus miniboss that throws grenades.. especially when there's 4 of them

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also i havent tried looking it up lol

gray apex
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It'll probably just stay the same, the only difference would be buying more summon charges to use on Hades/Heroes on aspects that struggle to get amazing dps

pastel monolith
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ive got the witches down tho

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the power couple too but i usualy take a hit

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sometimes in styx , when i do forced overtime 2, i cant seem to ever meg fast enough

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they escape

gray apex
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For all Styx minibosses, you Meg before they spawn

pastel monolith
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ya, i think i just need to get the timing better.. sometimes i do it too early

gray apex
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Or if you're on high heat and waiting for the second miniboss to spawn, you'll just have to identify certain attacks that give you enough of a window to meg both

pastel monolith
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i rly wana get more into the speedrunning.. my next personal goal in hades is sub 10 with each weapon.. or just in general be able to get sub 10 igt more consistently.. ive only ever done it 3 or 4 times

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i play unmodded on xbox so its a bit tricky, but i definitely have a lot of rooom for improvement

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i think if i just focus on speedruns i can eventually get a sub 9 with a little luck and a lot of practice

high island
scenic glade
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Hot Take: Arctic Blast is a complete ripoff

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almost nullifies the benefit of Chill in exchange for not actually that much damage

woeful trout
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do you have any hotter takes

scenic glade
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The sword is hot garbage.

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Basically useless.

woeful trout
scenic glade
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Yes

woeful trout
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which aspect

scenic glade
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All of 'em

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Highest heat that I've escaped with using the sword is 6

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basically getting into melee range of enemies is 10x more dangerous than staying at range

woeful trout
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heres a hot take

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Zag Bow is the best bow

scenic glade
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and the sword requires you to do that but does not reward you for doing so.

latent moon
scenic glade
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Yes

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but I just lost a run with the sword so that's fresher in my mind

latent moon
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To be fair sword and fists are in the lower half of weapons but they're still good

latent moon
woeful trout
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it was really really good

latent moon
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I mean you can say that with any aspect lmao

woeful trout
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like not even any special synergy

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just an artemis attack

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and it just shredded

scenic glade
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I can't break my addiction to Chiron aspect w/ stacking status effects

latent moon
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The game will give you a lot more than that tho so other bows are also good lmao

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Actually Hera doesnt need any hammers

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And just needs crush shot lol

bright warren
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How long does it take before I can use battie against [final boss]

latent moon
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You need to get Skelly's or Sisyphus companion before you can do that

empty swallow
latent moon
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Bruh gilga won lmao

empty swallow
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That was the wrong link you can still vote

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Thats the right link

latent moon
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Ah

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Well looks like gilga is gonna win anyways lmao

empty swallow
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And Gilgas goated fr fr

latent moon
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Goated for worst aspect in the game

empty swallow
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No chance its the worst in the game

stone rune
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yep

empty swallow
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Whats wrong with it

stone rune
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bad damage and you literally buff your enemies

empty swallow
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Main doesn't buff them

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And the damage is great

latent moon
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Hits slower for not much harder
Shorter dashes and longer dash cooldown

stone rune
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yes it does

latent moon
stone rune
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it literally gives them more ho

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hl*

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in exchange for sweet surrender damage

empty swallow
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I like it

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Swing go funny

latent moon
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Gilga hits harder than the normal fists, but it's telling that it still wants flat damage attack

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You can like it, it's just not good lol

bright warren
latent moon
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No

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Skelly and Sisyphus don't work for hades so you can use those against him

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Achilles works for him so you can't

bright warren
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Ok thank you

feral belfry
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My favorite was the guy who said "y'all sleeping on Gilga"

jagged juniper
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Finally reunited the olympians and got the nice cutscene and dialogue

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🎉

latent moon
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(not my clip)

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from cherrydaddy on twitch

hallow hull
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if i turn of god mode, what will happen to my progress

gray apex
hallow hull
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so if i turn it off, i will have restarted my progress to where i turned it on? because i have 250 escape attempts and i turned it off a escape attempt 40...

gray apex
hallow hull
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ohhh then if i turn it back on again my clears will change to when i did have god mode? Also, does god mode count while doing speedruns?

gray apex
hallow hull
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aight thanks

empty swallow
feral belfry
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Gilga

mint coral
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Something something gilga dash strikes doesnt 1 shot numbskulls

feral belfry
latent moon
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Oh bruh really lmao

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That's amazing

mint coral
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Yeah without any buff dash strikes do 20 dmg

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Nunbskukls have 25

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Is more of a joke cuz even high confidence is enough to one shot

latent moon
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bold of you to assume you'll have high confidence up on gilga

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although fiery presence should work

mint coral
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Even FF works

latent moon
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but pstatus better

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40% > 25%

mint coral
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45%>40% (i got an 8 god pool + hermes)

latent moon
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true

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if you sell everything except a duo boon, does that count as 10%

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or is it just 5%

mint coral
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I thiiiink it chooses one of 2 gods to count?

latent moon
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kinda a scam

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not worth

wide needle
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Ngl Zagreus is hot af

untold crown
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after 500+ runs I got something I hadn't tried before, phalanx shot lv5 + fully loaded + flurry cast + greater recall + mirage shot

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every time I've had "hold cast to win" boons it's been with hunting blades

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this was like a machine gun

south sable
feral belfry
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Is there a list somewhere of the highest heats cleared ever with each aspect?

rustic vale
feral belfry
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Oh cool.

latent moon
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There's a list for modded and unmodded

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Unmodded is a bit lower in the pins list iirc

feral belfry
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Highest unmodded fists is 55?

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Yeah makes sense

latent moon
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Em4 fists is rough without long knuckle lol

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And ap2 long knuckle is a pain

feral belfry
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True

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Makes sense

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Sweet thanks for the link

manic vine
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So I'm in asphodel and got Demeter, with the choice of Frost Flourish [I have the fists, aspect is Demeter], Rare Rare crop, and Snow Burst

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Should I pick rare crop? It's early in the attempt and I want to try and get Heartbreak Strike a better rarity.

stone rune
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aph attack on fists?

latent moon
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what other boons do you have

wide needle
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Are there any mods that make the game easier? I’m a wimp lol

latent moon
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and what's the rare crop rarity

stone rune
latent moon
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god mode is def an option tho

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and imo it's implemented well for an "easy mode"

stone rune
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gives you more DR as you die more

manic vine
wide needle
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Ah alr. Didn’t know if it made the game super easy or not

manic vine
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It's a Rare Rare Crop

wide needle
stone rune
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damage reduction

latent moon
wide needle
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Oooh, thanks lol

latent moon
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because it's prob more consistent to grab frost flourish here tbh

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but funny rare crop is funny

manic vine
stone rune
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probably dont want aph attack though

latent moon
stone rune
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you do?

manic vine
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I've got that one that gives more damage for two aspects on an enemy

latent moon
manic vine
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That's why I have it along with the cast and glacial glare

latent moon
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there's not much worth rare crop hitting tbh

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so just take the flourish

stone rune
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DR is multiplicative right

latent moon
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yeah

stone rune
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arthur and god mode gives you 88% DR

latent moon
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you can do what that other guy did, max god mode with aphrodite attack

stone rune
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reddit is crazy

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people are actually out here defending gilga as better than zagfists

manic vine
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Can't answer on Gilga because I'm not there yet

stone rune
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it's awful

rustic vale
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It’s not really a question

latent moon
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hey

stone rune
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i mean

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i'm exaggerating

latent moon
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gilga is good for dash only runs

stone rune
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because it like

latent moon
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give it some credit

stone rune
rustic vale
latent moon
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HAHAHA NO WAY

manic vine
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How

latent moon
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by that logic can't we just say "zag fists is better for a dodge build" and we're back at point 0

stone rune
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"Bloody hell. Gilgamesh is quite good. Just needs a bit of adjustment to play. Zagreus' aspects are much worse"

rustic vale
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guys Zag sword is better then beowulf because you can get a higher additive bonus from rush delivery

rustic vale
stone rune
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"I’m voting Gilgamesh fists for their damage potential."

latent moon
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see

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with beo, it's better to run legacy

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so you're likely to get a common rd

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but with zag sword, you use pride

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so you can get epic rd

stone rune
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the solution: olympian favor

latent moon
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and the natural increased movement speed of zag sword makes it so much better and can outdamage

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ngl

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i considered it

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but then i realized that i actually needed boons

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common rd is just sad

stone rune
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"People sleeping on my boy Gilgamesh need to do a dash only run rq"

latent moon
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lmfao

stone rune
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"Gilgamesh because DASH ONLY RUNS"

latent moon
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ngl i'm interested in the zeus vs beo discussion

stone rune
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"I’m surprised to see Gilgamesh catching so much hate. I \\ people up with them \\\"

latent moon
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"zeus can do 64 heat" is gonna be super popular

stone rune
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i predicted this

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the zeus thing

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those who can't do (the 32 heat run) watch (the 64 heat run)

flat bloom
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its not like someones gonna convince me to stop doing my trippy flare beo runs to do a zeus run

latent moon
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based

solar vault
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I feel like beo probably is losing that argument against zeus

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people will complain it's hard to use

stone rune
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on reddit 100%

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people did that with hestia too

latent moon
flat bloom
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wuts the zeus speedrun wr

stone rune
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i simultaneously saw in the comments that hestia was too hard to use and was too easy to use

flat bloom
stone rune
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it's ok

latent moon
stone rune
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need quick mash

flat bloom
stone rune
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but if you can do like 4 actions a second it's fine

latent moon
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zeus is not a fast aspect

stone rune
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how does zeus do js3 then

latent moon
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i mean it's not fast compared to a lot of other ones

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zeus is just pact resistant

rustic vale
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Zeus has the aoe

latent moon
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being pact resistant isn't the same as being fast really

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there is some overlap

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but there's some differences

stone rune
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js3 cp2 sucks no matter what

rustic vale
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Being good for heat != good for speed and vice versa

latent moon
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unless it's beowulf

stone rune
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the ri3 in question:

latent moon
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buddy 60 heat is high enough

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you can't call beo "bad for heat" because ri3 is the limit and can't go higher than 60 lmao

manic vine
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I don't know what to pick again

latent moon
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pick the third option

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i bet it's the third one

manic vine
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Draining Cutter?

stone rune
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LMAO

latent moon
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damn

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what about the other 2 lmao

manic vine
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XD

latent moon
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i was close

manic vine
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Long Knuckle and Rush Kick

latent moon
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long knuckle is safe, rush kick is funny

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but not recommended

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i'd take long knuckle

manic vine
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Ehh sure

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Oh it's the bull

flat bloom
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the dreaded bull

stone rune
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the friendly bull

manic vine
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The best bull

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I almost said bad word, but what is this

latent moon
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did you turn on em3

manic vine
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nah

stone rune
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it's so easy

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give it a go

manic vine
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Heroic Electric Shot, along with Epic Zeus' Aid and Heaven's Vengance.

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Why do I have better luck with Zeus than anyone else.

stone rune
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zeus has the largest array of useful t2 boons

manic vine
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yeah

stone rune
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and then there's storm lightning

wide needle
stone rune
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yeah

manic vine
latent moon
manic vine
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Since when???

wide needle
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How???

solar vault
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he only gives it as an option after beating redacted yeah

manic vine
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ah

latent moon
stone rune
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oh

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really?

latent moon
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yeah

manic vine
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I've got to redacted, I get to know this.

latent moon
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well

stone rune
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what if they ask

wide needle
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Idk about spoilers lol

latent moon
stone rune
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you also might consider sticking to new players

latent moon
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secondly, imo the basis for a "new player" to avoid all spoilers is until you get the credits at 10 wins

stone rune
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you prob wanna wait for credits

latent moon
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that way you dont get any spoilers

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or

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well

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you dont get most spoilers

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because it happens

wide needle
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I meant I’m fine with them, but that’s probably a good idea lol

manic vine
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eh I don't mind spoilers. I'm the kind of person to look up a ton of stuff just for prep only to lose more.

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Now do I get Aid? or replace Demeter's shot?

stone rune
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mostly story spoilers

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from who

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some calls suck

latent moon
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i'd say most lmao

stone rune
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well

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do

manic vine
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Lol

stone rune
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arty is fine

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aph is fine

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Zeus and dio great

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ares sucks

latent moon
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what's the third option actually

stone rune
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dem idk

manic vine
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what is best weapon be as biased as possible.

latent moon
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beowulf

solar vault
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gilgamesh is good for dash only runs

latent moon
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TRUE

stone rune
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"good"

latent moon
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GILGA #1 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪

manic vine
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XD

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I'm taking the aid, unless glacial glare somehow makes electric shot also chill

latent moon
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that does not work

manic vine
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Figures.

latent moon
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what was the third option tho lmao

manic vine
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Heaven's Vengance Epic.

latent moon
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yeah zeus call is good

stone rune
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Zeus call grat

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you have aph attack right

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smair time

manic vine
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yep

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I've got priveleged status on as well, so I get a nice amount of bonus damage.

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but then again I had parting shot so the confusion was there.

mint coral
manic vine
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I can't believe early-game I thought Ares was amazing and Aphro and Dion weren't good at all

latent moon
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ares isn't too bad tbh, you can play the long game by just spamming doom around

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or go brrrr with hunting blades or ME

manic vine
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True

cerulean pawn
feral belfry
latent moon
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Top 24 for sure

rustic vale
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Top 24 aspects for sure

dire tendon
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gilga looks very fun

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i will never play it since i am not meeting unlock requirements ever, but it looks cool as hell

high island
latent moon
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Well then you have to learn to dodge more I guess

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Not much else you have to do

pulsar jetty
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dies anyone have tips for the last battle with hades? the farthes ive gone is to his second stage and ive been stuck on it for quite some time

high island
pulsar jetty
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thanks i greatly appreciate it, what weapon would you recommend to use for the dad fight? or is it just your preferred choice?

stone rune
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everything works

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fists sword and spear can be harder because melee is melee

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and harder to dodge with

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but anything works

pulsar jetty
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alright thanks i appreciate it

stone rune
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poseidon with no cast but 10 extra bloodstones and megapommed exit wounds

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and orange flurry cast

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viable build???

latent moon
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Yes

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True shot so you don't have to aim

solar vault
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orange? heroic is totally red

latent moon
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Legendary I guess lmao

high island
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No Maim.

stone rune
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so real

stone rune
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it's orange

solar vault
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can't be orange because legendary is orange

limber ether
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With flood shot hera should I be aiming at walls instead of enemies so I get my bloodstones back faster?

latent moon
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I guess technically yeah

high island
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Color name Jelly Bean, hex code #dd564f

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The flag on the boon banner is nutmeg/garnet, and the little flag on the boon icon is scarlet. tizomg

feral belfry
bright warren
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If I’m using flood flare beowulf will Artemis’ legendary work if I don’t get arte-pos duo boon

high island
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If it's for competitive speedrunning purposes, I suspect no.

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Otherwise, sure.

bright warren
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Ok thank you, right now I’m just trying to beat the game so it should work

latent moon
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you dont generally shoot for it, but if artemis keeps popping up and you already have mirage shot, then might as well

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your priority from artemis after the atk should be marked and then pressure points

stone rune
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big pp

latent moon
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and since at that point you only need support fire to open up the legendary, then sure
but also that's a lot of artemis boons at that point lmao so it's very doubtful you'll get it

stone rune
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clean kill x3:

latent moon
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oh also having a ton of casts without extra cast damage is super annoying, even tho having 6 casts is technically a budget mirage shot, they dont all pop at the same time and it takes a decent chunk of time

woeful trout
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wonder if its possible to inifnitely spam casts

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with flurry cast

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just be a machine gun

bright warren
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Oh come on I had an op build and was definitely going to get a much better pb and once I finally reach [final boss] he just says “go before I reconsider” bruh I wanted to destroy you

latent moon
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lmfao 10 wins moment

stone rune
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do you get a win screen on that one

bright warren
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I’m not sure yet

stone rune
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well

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have fun with it

bright warren
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I’m a little pissed I couldn’t destroy him but this is a pretty cool cutscene

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He apologized?!

bright warren
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Ok I beat the game but still can’t get angry dads keepsake, am I doing something wrong?

stone rune
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give another nectar

rustic vale
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Have you escaped 10 times and given a second nectar?

stone rune
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they just got credits

bright warren
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It’s not giving me the option to give him nectar, should I just do suicide runs until I can?

stone rune
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2nd nectr should be after credits

bright warren
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Oh I’m just being stupid

rustic vale
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Suicide runs are kinda cringe

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Just do legit runs

bright warren
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He was in a conversation and I didn’t realize it

bright warren
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For ||the queens plan|| on the list of minor prophecies do I just need to give more olympians nectar?

limber ether
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chain shot, sniper shot or concentrated volley for crush shot hera?

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they all seem inconsequential

limber ether
gray apex
rustic falcon
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I didn't get one I think

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our I don't remember getting one

silver mica
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Gonna start playing with forced overtime more so I can improve

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Hopefully it helps me retain more health for when I play EM4 next time

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Okay second hammer for lucifer

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Eternal chamber, targeting system or flash fire

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First hammer was triple beam

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I'll go flash fire

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Wow I am ridiculously bad

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I definitely need to play with FO more often

high island
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"Bad" is subjective. No need to beat yourself up.

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You wouldn't call another play that, so don't say that about yourself. squirtnya

silver mica
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Update: I have now drained all my ambrosia maxing out companions

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Just need two more then I can stop thinking about that and start thinking about other stuff to complete

silver mica
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Oh boy time to try Beowulf again

cerulean pawn
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Speed is a really big adjustment, even if the numbers don't make it look that way! You could try doing some rounds with FO1 on and then try a few with FO2. Even though FO2 borders on ridiculously fast (for me) it felt easier going back down to 1 than before

high island
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I think the best practice for FO2 is to just run FO2.

silver mica
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I wasn't running FO2 at the time cause it was a heat 9 run so I was doing EM2, TD2 and FO1

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Oof this is a choice to make

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Hm

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Erebus pom, charon shop, chaos gate or hammer

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Tatarus chamber 12

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I might try for the pom

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If I can buff up this throw more that'd be great

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Yeah I'll go pom

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Lost a defiance in asphodel

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Okay I got sudden rush

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Nice

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Now second hammer straight after

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Ferocious Guard, Cshot or Breaching rush?

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What does Cshot even do on beowulf

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Does the fog just deploy on me or where I hit

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Might just take the shot

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Yeah I took it

high island
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Charged Shot is the best hammer on all shields.

silver mica
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Ugh lost another defiance to asterius

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EM

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Now I gotta fight EM Theseus :')

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WAIT PAT

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YES

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now time for theseus

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Lost a defiance

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But I won

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Died shadegrief

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Dude is strong

jagged juniper
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I hate him sm

silver mica
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I mean I was also using beowulf which is by far my worst aspect

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I need more shield practice

scenic glade
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I need to try the 4th aspects more often. I just had my best Fist run ever with Gilgamesh

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and I think I’ve only played Guan Yu and Beowulf once each

silver mica
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Arthur is great

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Lucifer is decent too

scenic glade
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I think I finished all of those prophecies on the first try except the bow

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That took me a few tries

fervent pewter
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Alright ultimate question Than or Meg

high island
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Lady Aphrodite.

silver mica
silver mica
woeful trout
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any good fist builds that arent merciful end

high island
silver mica
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Lmao Hades just said he should have named me Narcissus

rough island
silver mica
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That was a marriage with Hephaestus iirc

rough island
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Oh ur probs right

silver mica
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But she cheated constantly with Ares

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And mortals and whatnot

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But mostly Ares

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Love incarnate was pretty generous

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That's what I remember anyway

rough island
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Well i like the spear, but it feel usseles against meg, well my whole strat for meg was blocking her dashes with my shield charge

mint coral
#

your dashes have iframes that go away when you dash strike

#

you can just dash through the atk

rough island
#

Ye but when i get stressed out i start frantically mashing attack and Q meaning most of my dashes end up being dash strikes

#

Well now i have an boon that makes my Q deflect, so i can just throw my spear at dashing meg

jagged juniper
#

Dash strike my beloved

simple sail
#

A want an app where hypnos tells me to go to bed if you look at your phone too late

slender mist
#

that's...actually a really good idea

rough island
#

Aphrodite has my fav boons

limber ether
#

Sounds like you like damage

rough island
#

Also i like fast weapon and one of aphrodites boons makes it that your foes might get charmed, those two combined makes possible to basically stunlock enemies

rustic vale
#

Tbh aphrodite works significantly better on slower hitting attacks

woeful trout
#

hades is a pretty bad boss isnt he

latent moon
#

Wdym by bad

#

He seems fine

#

There's a bit of jank but it's not too bad

jagged juniper
#

Just did my 50th clear

#

Got a little message

#

Boo I wish I could send it

stone rune
#

you can

jagged juniper
#

Nah I don’t have pic perms

stone rune
#

nobody does

#

put it in another server, copy the link, paste the link here

jagged juniper
#

I’ll do the second ty

empty swallow
stone rune
#

watch talos win

#

oh my god

latent moon
#

I think Dem is like very far in the lead

stone rune
#

reddit isn't wrong

#

this is crazy

latent moon
#

Lmao yeah

stone rune
#

comments all say talos is better

#

but the poll is different

latent moon
#

lmfao

manic vine
#

Lol

#

I had to take a moment, I was so close to beating big boy hades

#

I had aphro's legendary boon, two great duo boons

rustic falcon
#

lol i like how dionysus has some dialogue for you if you have certain amount of ambrosia on you

jagged juniper
#

Legend

#

I still haven’t collected ever boon in the game apparently. I’m working on completing the list of prophecies

rustic falcon
#

why havent i gotten smoldering air yet even tho i have yarn and have the correct apro and zeus boons for the duo

silver mica
#

What ain't you got

silver mica
#

😔

rustic falcon
latent moon
#

you can have the prereqs but you need a call for smair to be offered

rustic falcon
rustic falcon
latent moon
#

unfortunate lmao

rustic falcon
#

wait i see

latent moon
#

i wonder where

rustic falcon
#

finally

latent moon
#

lmfao

rustic falcon
#

no wait

#

i accidently clicked lightning rode

#

why

stone rune
#

what call do you have

#

LMFAO

latent moon
rustic falcon
empty swallow
rustic falcon
#

wait there is a aproh boon in charon shop in styx thats my only chance for smoldering air now

#

sad no smoldering air

gray apex
#

Try to avoid opening up other duos

#

Only makes your odds worse

latent moon
#

if you're hunting for a specific duo, you core boons should only be like 2 gods

#

until you get that duo

#

ofc some cores from other gods wont open up extra duos, but you'll have to check the codex for that

rustic falcon
#

i was trying to go low tolerance aproh attack lucifer smoldering duo with dio aid for a lot of hangover effects

rustic falcon
#

so

#

yea

stone rune
#

zoos call more efficient smair

silver mica
#

Seeing the low tolerance boon reminded me that I really wanna try a dionysius lucifer gun

#

Wonder how it is

#

A rum gun :)

rustic falcon
#

it was nice

#

i tried it before

#

i combined it with that one dio boon that makes people slow

#

it was nice

silver mica
#

I've only used super soaker and artemis beam

rustic falcon
#

lmfao super soaker

silver mica
#

When it comes to lucifer

rustic falcon
#

but wouldnt posiedon knock back a lot with lucifer attack

silver mica
#

But today I got a good one

#

With sea storm

#

And rupture

#

So that was pretty cool

silver mica
mint coral
rustic falcon
#

dam

silver mica
#

Also it asphodel a breeze

#

It makes asphodel a breeze*

rustic falcon
#

god slot

silver mica
#

Just beam your enemies into lava

rustic falcon
#

can you do athena beam with spread fire + that one hammer upgrade giving infinite ammo

#

for like

latent moon
# stone rune zoos call more efficient smair

it's more effective leading into smair most of the time, but considering it's luci dio call is technically more efficient since you'd want aphro special after starting zeus attack

mint coral
stone rune
mint coral
latent moon
stone rune
#

iirc

latent moon
#

luci doesnt have spread fire

#

unless you meant triple beam?

rustic falcon
#

oh yeah triple beam

silver mica
latent moon
#

the very end of the beam

#

i'm pretty sure

#

it's either the tip or at the end of the gun

silver mica
#

I see

rustic falcon
#

so athena beam not that worth

#

sad

latent moon
#

there's a few clips out there with people using athena atk with eternal beam luci and just standing still against asterius

rustic falcon
#

so what about the special for lucifer, can it deflect when you explode it

latent moon
#

since every atk from the heroes can be deflected, you can just stand still and kill asterius with athena beam

rustic falcon
latent moon
#

literally every atk from the heroes can be deflected lmao

rustic falcon
#

even theseus until gods help

latent moon
#

idk if the pulses deflect too but i would think so?

#

but it's better to just blow it up for damage

rustic falcon
#

yeah i think the pulses deflect not so sure about explison

#

yeah

#

tho with artemis on special i was doing like 100-200 with pulses and critcal one hitting witches in ely

latent moon
#

yeah arty or aphrodite are prefered on rail specials

woeful trout
#

is drunken flourish on zeus shield a good idea

latent moon
#

it works

woeful trout
#

hmmm

latent moon
#

zeus is better, but dio is also a good option

woeful trout
#

i already picked zeus keepsake for it but i just got a heroic

#

might pick it

latent moon
#

oh um

#

how early in the run is this

woeful trout
#

tartarus

#

like the 3rd boon

latent moon
#

is call available?

woeful trout
#

i dont have any calls rn

#

and i have a common dio call

latent moon
#

i mean like offered mb

#

i'd take that

#

look for an aphrodite core, preferably attack, and try and get smair

woeful trout
#

i think im just gonna go for hangover

#

ive always wanted to try and run it

latent moon
#

that works then

#

just pom it as much as possible

#

poms on hangover dont fall off

#

just dont take another source of hangover

#

because it will override itself

woeful trout
#

wonder if pom blossom is a good idea

rustic falcon
#

lol i got every aproh duo boon i could this run except smoldering air

#

i could have gotten smoldering air but i had to misclick

woeful trout
#

what dio boons are there that gives hangover a boost?

#

i know theres numbing sensation

#

oh theres not much actually

rustic falcon
#

there is also black out but its a legendary

woeful trout
#

black out seems super specific

rustic falcon
#

yeah

latent moon
#

unless like, your only pommable boon is literally drunken flourish

#

and you want to carry it throughout elysium

woeful trout
latent moon
#

and maybe styx

rustic falcon
latent moon
#

you'll literally get like 1 level in asphodel because it's like 6 combat chambers lmao

high island
#

Pom Blossom is like never optimal really. The only niche for Pom Blossom is starting Cast builds in high heat.

#

That's kinda it.

woeful trout
#

level 7 flourish in asphodel

#

what hammers are there for zeus

mint coral
#

explosive return and charged shot

high island
#

Baj — 03/02/2021 5:34 PM
generally, Charged Shot > Explosive Return > Pulverizing Blow > Sudden Rush > everything else

woeful trout
#

YEAH PATROCLUS

#

level 11 flourish before asterius boss

#

i just realized zeus shield's return speed is perfectly matching with EM3 theseus speed

#

level 16 flourish at the end

#

not even close

#

7 titan blood hmm

#

any tips on aspect of hera

latent moon
#

crush shot

#

one shot everything

#

pom it as much as possible

#

if you build it correctly, you'll one shot everything and instaphase bosses

scenic glade
#

I tried Blade Vortex on Hera recently

#

Kinda sucked ngl

latent moon
#

yeah lmao

#

slicing shot kinda sucks until you get hunting blades

scenic glade
#

Yep

#

I think I did get that eventually

latent moon
#

unless you're a good achilles player and can angle the slicing shot good lol

scenic glade
#

You know, I wish they had made a different talent for the green version of Boiling Blood

#

Because right now, neither talent does anything if you take a cast that doesn’t stick, which is like half of them

latent moon
#

i mean the ones that dont stick have potential to be very strong

scenic glade
#

true

#

Festive Pog chefkiss

woeful trout
stone rune
#

yeah it's not compatible with hunting blades

latent moon
#

if you're gonna get a rift duo why would you pick that over hunting blades

#

the only exception is slicing flare beo but also bouldy

stone rune
latent moon
#

beo moment

#

i beat 40 heat with slicing flare and it's not that horrible tbh

#

it's just like why would you willingly pick that when other options exist

scenic glade
latent moon
latent moon
scenic glade
#

I see

#

ty

latent moon
#

similar to ._. basically

stone rune
#

it means how it looks

#

just look at it

latent moon
#

i mean if you look hard enough it looks like it's smiling lmao

stone rune
#

that's a pretty hard look though

dire tendon
#

ngl i thought bouldy was just hades skull emoji

#

💀

scenic glade
#

Kinda like 🗿

latent moon
#

it's harder to see in an emote tho

#

but in game i always thought it was smiling

scenic glade
#

I haven’t had a run with Poseidon attack in a long time.

#

I should do that again.

#

Yeeting people into walls is fun

#

I’m thinking of pairing it with Lucifer for the memez

bronze oracle
safe skiff
#

are bosses and armor affected by health boost from the pact?

silver mica
#

Yes

#

All foes applies to bosses too

safe skiff
#

thanks

mint coral
#

sames as dusa

latent moon
#

Wait armor gets affected by cp levels? I thought it was just the health bar

rustic vale
latent moon
#

I mean yeah but it's not technically hp

#

Tbf the game is either incredibly specific or broad lmao

rustic vale
#

Does CP affect the visual length of the enemy hp bar?

latent moon
#

Don't think so

woeful trout
#

Does blown kiss have any affect with Hera

#

Also is Stygian or infernal soul better with Hera

#

Completely useless fact but Skelly has 900 Health

rustic vale
rustic vale
woeful trout
rustic vale
#

Extra casts

#

Stygian for trippy flare otherwise you have to wait the whole duration of the fog to give you back your casts

latent moon
#

A direct impact like you'd normally do without it won't damage them

#

So you have to undershoot

woeful trout
#

How do i make my casts stronger besides chaos

mint coral
#

poms and charon wells

#

also global dmg (rush delivery for example)

rustic vale
#

Rush delivery

woeful trout
#

Gonna do something thats very stupid

#

And take a Charon egg

rustic vale
#

Y

woeful trout
#

Chaos*

mint coral
#

Desire sensor is 100% gonna make sure Chaos gates wont appear now

rustic vale
#

Chaos egg isn’t gonna help much

#

Oh Dad keepsake could help here

mint coral
#

what biome are you in

woeful trout
#

Asphodel

mint coral
#

entering aspho?

woeful trout
#

Yes

mint coral
#

what cast build is this in first place

rustic vale
#

Do you have poseidon or artemis in your god pool?

woeful trout
#

I have Poseidon

#

I’m using crush shot

mint coral
#

you can just slap snow burst and done

rustic vale
#

True

#

demeter for snow burst/ ravenous will gud

#

Artemis to pair into mirage shot would also be good

#

But demeter would be the better force I think

woeful trout
#

Ooh parting shot

#

I actually have no idea how good this is

#

But I’ll take it

#

It’s a duo so i can sell it anyways if its not good

#

LIGHT OF IXION HELL YEAH

#

By the way how does parting shot work exactly?

rustic vale
#

It works the same way that back stabbing works for any weapon

#

It’s just your cast instead of your attack/special

#

Your cast gains the ability to backstab, using your current backstab additive + 35% additive

woeful trout
#

Dont take blown kiss on Hera

#

Worst mistake of my life

rustic vale
#

?

#

Blown Kiss shouldn’t be anything worse then neutral on Hera

woeful trout
#

With blown kiss they dont

#

So you have to aim specifically with blown kiss and its not consistent

rustic vale
#

they should on contact fire and hit with blown kiss

woeful trout
#

It doesn’t

latent moon
#

You have to undershoot like I said earlier

#

It extends the dead zone

#

"I am pretty sure the hitbox of Crush Shot is a cone with a bit of a dead zone at the center of origin. And I am pretty sure that Blown Kiss stretches the hitbox of your Cast, which increases its range but also the dead zone. So you need to undershoot your arrows a bit more. It's a problem with Flurry Shot because you can't undershoot with it, but otherwise it's fine."

-Nyaanyaa

woeful trout
latent moon
#

If you can get it to work then it's pretty good because 50/75/100% more damage on the first hit can be pretty strong at room clearing

woeful trout
#

How do i use guan yu

latent moon
#

Special spam

#

Find charged skewer

mint coral
woeful trout
#

I really appreciate the effort put into them but i sometimes wish people would just tell me how instead of redirecting to a guide

#

A guan yu build that’s really dumb because i didnt level it up at all

mint coral
#

gy lvl 1 and max lvl isnt much different on terms of builds

#

you play way more careful on lvl 1

#

and also less chaos gates

woeful trout
#

Gonna try a frost fair blade build

latent moon
#

The levels don't change the dps output of guan yu

woeful trout
#

I think thats what the spin attack is called

woeful trout
#

Because it makes you really weak

latent moon
#

Yeah lmao

#

But technically speaking it's the same strength

mint coral
#

run it with Sd so you can actually live through rooms 🧠

woeful trout
#

Already popped a DD

#

This is the dumbest thing ive one in this game

#

Does swift strike make charging spin attack faster

stone rune
#

no + why spin

high island
latent moon
#

Don't think so

woeful trout
#

I thought they were all pre written

woeful trout
latent moon
#

They're prewritten in the sense that it's been told to someone before lol

stone rune
#

press q

#

that's the guan Yu guide

woeful trout
#

I’m so good at video games

#

Rerolled well of Charon

#

Right after picking egg

#

And got ixion

high island
#

My Guan Yu guide has been linked 104 times at this point.

#

Imagine if I or somebody else wrote out the exact same thing with different words all 104 times instead of just linking it. tizomg

woeful trout
#

Divine shield would be really nice right now

high island
#

They'd need to add a boon with that name first. dusa

woeful trout
#

Divine protection

stone rune
#

i think ddash would be of like a lot greater utility

woeful trout
woeful trout
#

Update: I ended up not winning

high island
#

That's not good.

#

Not winning is not compatible with winning.

#

I don't recommend doing that.

#

Do the other thing. The winning.

woeful trout
high island
#

Thanks.

#

Years of studying leadership and education all for this moment. tizomg

bright warren
#

How explicit are the romance scenes? I need to know if I need to kick my little brother out or not

stone rune
#

the screen is black

bright warren
#

Ah thank you

stone rune
#

and they laugh

#

they're just doing parchmentwork

high island
#

Playing boardgames.

bright warren
#

Ok that wasn’t as bad as I thought it would be

high island
#

"Hahaha."

#

"Wow."

#

"Haha."

#

Boardgaming.

toxic trellis
#

||The most explicit part is any scene involving Meg has a whip crack sound effect||

woeful trout
tacit dock
#

how rare it is to get legendary fish?

fair basalt
#

hades is so cool

mint coral
#

0% if normal catch

tacit dock
mint coral
#

Yeah

#

I always forget the exact timing bit basically as soon it bites

#

The text will says "perfect catch"

gray apex
#

It's like a third of a second

tacit dock
#

ah ok

high island
# tacit dock how rare it is to get legendary fish?

Nyaanyaa's Fishing Guide

There can only be three fake bobs, so the fourth bob is always real if the first three were fake. Fake bobs have an interval of 2-5 seconds while the real bob has an interval of 1-2 seconds. So if it takes more than 2 seconds, it should be a fake bob. Meaning you should look for the real bob within a short time after you start fishing or within a short time after a previous bob.

Personally, I just look for the white flash above the bobber and ignore the bobber itself. Some players have said they have better success when putting their thumb on the bobber to not get distracted by that, so maybe you could give that a try.

A Perfect Catch means catching a fish within 340ms. Perfect Catches are 50/50 on being a legendary or rare fish. Any other catch is 50/50 on being a rare or common fish.

tacit dock
brisk trail
white path
#

Aspect of Zagreus improves Rush Delivery too right?

mint coral
#

Yes

manic vine
#

I'm not having fun

#

This early I chose a chaos boon so I can do more attack damage because fists

#

I have to beat a doomstone with only uppers.

empty swallow
stone rune
#

lmfao

mint coral
#

Its time

silver mica
#

Horrible

manic vine
#

It's awful

silver mica
#

It's so slow

manic vine
#

But Eyyy this setup got me my first W

#

I finally beat Hades

mint coral
#

Tbh just attack them

#

If you have the +3 hp per room you will eventually recover your health

#

Anyways ggs

silver mica
manic vine
#

I just got up and happy danced

#

Once I'm done here I'm sending the loadout

stone rune
#

zeus is naturally beating beowulf because

mint coral
#

Most people dont like cast builds outside of beams/blades

stone rune
#

lmfao i hate them but i still recognise beowulf as what it is

devout gyro
#

hay

manic vine
#

yo

devout gyro
#

is the encounters the normal dungeon chamber

mint coral
#

Yeah encounters is all rooms that you fight

#

Certain keepsakes/boons have exceptions on the 4th area of the gsme tho, as it only will count the final combat from each tunnel instead of all the small combats

tawdry hearth
#

i love how hades can be super hard but super easy at the same time lol imo

silver mica
#

Is it odd that I find EM Hydra more difficult than EM Theseus

stone rune
#

yes

woeful trout
stone rune
#

lmfao it's reddit

woeful trout
#

what aspect should i run

empty swallow
woeful trout
#

today

mint coral
empty swallow
woeful trout
#

isnt beowulf like one of the strongest aspects

mint coral
#

Yeah

empty swallow
#

Ye but so is Zeus

#

Main reason I put them against eachother round 1

mint coral
#

You can say is the strongest tbh

stone rune
#

why would you do that

#

you don't put the strongest in round 1

mint coral
#

Outside of the absolute peak that is 63-64

stone rune
#

that's the reason you should have put beo with like chaos and zeus with zag

woeful trout
empty swallow
stone rune
#

the whole point of a bracket is saving the interesting matches for later

empty swallow
stone rune
#

yeah it is

#

that's what i'm saying

#

that's the damn point

#

it should be a free pass

silver mica
#

I got charged flight on aphrodite special on beowulf

stone rune
#

you remember how everybody thought it was wild that liquid went up against whoever in like the quarterfinals of that one major

silver mica
#

Kinda funny

empty swallow
stone rune
#

because that should have been the grand final match

#

you don't wipe out all the cool matches first and then just have it be a sweep into the grand finals

mint coral
empty swallow
#

Because each weapon is setup to have one aspect left by round 3

stone rune
#

well yeah

empty swallow
#

Then the best aspect of each weapon fight eachother

#

I don't want shield vs shield in the finale

stone rune
#

but you don't want beo going against zagshield in round 2

mint coral
#

Zag shield wins in my heart

stone rune
#

granted reddit being reddit chaos will win chaos vs zeus lmfao

stone rune
empty swallow
#

Chaos is mid tho

mint coral
#

Mainly cuz design and watching angel being amazing on it

stone rune
#

yeah it is

#

but reddit is insane

empty swallow
woeful trout
#

i dont know what aspect to run

mint coral
#

Worstlos

empty swallow
#

Go as the dark thirst guides

latent moon
silver mica
#

I lost all my defiances

#

FO2 Theseus

latent moon
#

it do be like that

silver mica
#

Got a tooth

#

Time for FO2 Hades

latent moon
#

just win

manic vine
#

I have a follow up to the first win

silver mica
#

MAN I ALMOST HAD HIM

manic vine
#

Just my luck; the save got corrupted.

silver mica
#

Damn

manic vine
#

That really hurt man

latent moon
#

rip

silver mica
#

You did it once, I've no doubt you can do it again

manic vine
#

Yeah

#

Well this is funny; Maimed Flourish or Flayed Strike?

silver mica
#

Oof

#

What's the other option

manic vine
#

Excruciating Affluence

#

Still got the same fists, and the same start with Dionysus' attack.

silver mica
#

Uhh

#

Whichever one doesn't hurt you when attacking

#

As in just you can still regular punchy

manic vine
#

Alright

manic vine
#

God I am still so mad

#

Hades had to act like that loss did not happen and now I have to

silver mica
#

GUYS

#

I DID IT FINALLY

#

EM HADES

#

I'M SO PUMPED RN

#

Ik the build is crappy but I'm still posting it cause I somehow got it 😭😭

stone rune
silver mica
#

Also I think it's cool how both Meg and hermes have lines for FO being applied

woeful trout
latent moon
#

lmfao

#

fair and equal judgement