#h1-discussion

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latent moon
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talos is like marginally better damage wise

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but it's like roughly the same speedwise

chrome heath
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So they're almost tied?

feral belfry
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Only marginally

chrome heath
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Talos is prettier

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And the metal clang sound on magnetic is just mmmmhhhmmm

latent moon
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i'd argue zag is better tho

chrome heath
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I can agree tbh

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Does the Zag Sword bonus benefit from Lambent Plume?

high island
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Zag Fists better.

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Dodge gud.

chrome heath
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Yes, i let my pride blind me

latent moon
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although it mostly relies getting hyper sprint + rush delivery

chrome heath
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I see, thanks

amber veldt
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beat hades with zeus shield, pretty fun but i wanted to try other weapons, any suggestions?

woeful trout
amber veldt
woeful trout
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but they each cost 3 titan blood

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and can only be found after a certain NPC gives you the phrase to unlock one

amber veldt
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ohh ok

solar vault
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There are more specifics pinned in the story channel but you’ll get there just by playing more anyways

lone sable
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But you gotta get the spear one first

manic vine
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Had a thought about this game

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I remember giving Artemis some nectar, and when I claimed her boon she told how she enjoyed one of the nectars I gave

lone sable
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Yeah npcs react like that

manic vine
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Yeah, but I got confused as to if she was talking about a previous one or if she just downed the one I gave 3 seconds ago

high island
manic vine
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Honestly 2nd option is the more funny one

brisk trail
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poseidon was behind this somehow

muted glen
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Definetly

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But was the horse ok

random nest
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heard here and there that if you reach Hades without having any boon on you there would be special interaction on that

Though I have been stuck in the Temple of Styx for 8 consecutive attempts where the sack is in a boon room
and Fated Authority reroll always roll a boon into another boon.
Is there anything I can do for this, I've been stuck here for 3 hours already folks

mint coral
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You still can get it if you only have boons that cant be sold

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So if yoj are forced into gods try to at least aim for one like that

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(dem/dio/pos/athena but that needs another athena boon)

random nest
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I'll look into that, thanks for your response

vital spade
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Haydeez

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||🥜||

brisk trail
silent willow
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Does Touch of Styx have any specific requirements to spawn, aside from having SD enabled?

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Need it for the prophecy and the one from Patroclus doesn't count, and no luck in wells, wondering if it's just rng or if I'm missing something

analog elbow
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It doesn't have any other specific requirements

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You may want to try using fated persuasion to reroll the pools if you're fishing specifically for it

silent willow
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yeah, been doing that Blessex thanks

jolly shadow
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hi, idk if i'm at the right place, but i'm looking for informations about a specific dedalus up for the shield. i am french (and have the game in french) and i can't figure out how it is called in english (and i did'nt found anything about it in french). i can't get this specific up from dedalus and i don't know if there is any requierment to get it. the french name is "disque d'assault" (si y'a des francais qui passent par la, aled x))

analog elbow
jolly shadow
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already checked

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but as i said i can't figure out the english name of this one xD

analog elbow
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ooow I see

jolly shadow
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might be a different sspelling

jolly shadow
lone sable
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cant you change the game language to english

vale kite
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that might be dashing wallop

jolly shadow
vale kite
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i know i kept the assaut in the name to reference the dash attack

jolly shadow
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yes in french this is assault x)

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but no i already ot this one

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i will try put the game in english

desert vault
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Hello hellos

vale kite
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it's either dashing wallop or the other one i forget the name of

jolly shadow
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k its dashing flight xD

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thank u all

vale kite
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so it was the other

desert vault
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Tryna get past hades himself rn

jolly shadow
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got it after two rooms, lol

high island
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I needed a few attempts for boonless mirrorless WR because of that. tizozzz

jolly shadow
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anyone got the duo/legendary boons page please?

high island
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Hades Wiki

Duo Boons are a type of Boon which combines the powers of two different gods for a unique effect. Duo Boons can only be obtained when you have the prerequisite boons and, like all boons, are lost when Zagreus dies and returns to the House of Hades.
There are 28 Duo Boons in Hades, shared between 8 different gods: Aphrodite, Ares, Artemis, Athena...

analog elbow
stone rune
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does deadly reversal require deflecting a projectile or will ddashing proc it?

latent moon
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As long as something is deflected

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and the words pop up

stone rune
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but not if you just do an empty ddash in the middle of nowhere

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cool

latent moon
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Every atk in the heroes fight can be deflected but they're not all projectiles lol

latent moon
stone rune
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yeah i deflect asterius slam a lot

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wish it actually hit him instead

analog elbow
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Dunno what the trigger for this convo is
My guess is that since Zag overcame Hades at his titan-slaying power level, Hades is implying that Zag is a force to be reckon with. But Zag being who he is, just takes it sort of for granted.

sour fog
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yeah I think it triggers with EM4, altough kinda unfair as Zag still gets help from Olympians where as Hades is just Hades, so I don't think they're actually on the same level

high island
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Plus, you can do the fight boonless.

sour fog
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lol no thank you

analog elbow
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Let us know how that went for you lol

rustic falcon
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does having Lord Chaos keepsake equipped give a higher chance for Chaos gates to appear

high island
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No.

toxic trellis
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Not necessarily, just negates damage taken when entering through

high island
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Usually only recommended to switch to Cosmic Egg when you see a Light of Ixion in the Well of Charon.

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And even then only sometimes.

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Good luck!

rustic falcon
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is this worth for stygian with posiedon aspect

stone rune
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what's your cast

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do you want damage or do youw ant protection

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if you're on crush shot i can imagine splash dash going poorly but otherwise it's probably fine

latent moon
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I think you can still make tdash crush shot work on pos sword

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I'd take it because it's good damage and opens mirage

stone rune
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idk the exact range

rustic falcon
stone rune
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do you have arty boons

rustic falcon
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i have posidon, athena and zeus i think

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and demeter

latent moon
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I'd take tdash

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And then force Artemis in asphodel

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Assuming you're in Tartarus

stone rune
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full god pool?

latent moon
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Also assuming your cores aren't full

latent moon
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Doesn't look like any other duos would open up other than rod

stone rune
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i mean like full god pool before aspho?

latent moon
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If sea storm is also open then I wouldn't

latent moon
rustic falcon
stone rune
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yeah

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arty into styx dusa

latent moon
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Okay then just take the replacement lol

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Ignore the Artemis thingy

latent moon
stone rune
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speedrun mod but instead of giving you 4 options first boon it gives you the 8 duo options first boon

rustic falcon
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hydraulic might

stone rune
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you cant bc full pool

rustic falcon
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yeah

latent moon
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You can get arty in Styx if you force it

stone rune
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god keepsake styx

rustic falcon
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aw man was so close to beating hades but died

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does hestia not affect aspect of lucifer

latent moon
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What

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What's that supposed to mean

rustic falcon
sour fog
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you need to select aspect to make it active

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you don't get bonuses from any other aspects other than the one you have selected

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so hestia bonus only works when you select hestia

solar vault
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They're functionally completely different weapons, not a bonus you stack

rustic falcon
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oh i thought you could have all aspects active at once

sour fog
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no

undone cove
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Its would be cool to have a built in mod menu to the game

stone rune
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what was the dc1 for then

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no js2?

latent moon
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It was js3

stone rune
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js3 cp2 dc1

latent moon
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I didn't want em4 so I needed dc1 ap2

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Everything else is maxed but no RI, no em4, no dc2 basically

stone rune
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that's 52

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with no dc

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ohhh

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no ri

latent moon
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Yeah lol

brisk trail
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Is it possible that I can get queens plan after doing the bonds with the gods

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I need two more fated tasks things and I finish all the fated things

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And I'm not getting the convo from demeter and I think that's bec of that

brisk trail
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I have all the bonds with all the gods

stone rune
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does beo take passion at high heat normally?

brisk trail
stone rune
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im an anti beo truther

brisk trail
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But didn't get the queens plan just did it before that

signal aspen
stone rune
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uh

signal aspen
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mostly at 45+

brisk trail
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Do I keep killing hades with em

stone rune
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for dem you need the thing

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the dem bond

brisk trail
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Already did her

stone rune
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so then you did epilogue

brisk trail
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Nope

solar vault
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bonded with as in past locked heart?

brisk trail
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Yes

brisk trail
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Wot tf

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I got 0 convos that I'm supposed to get

solar vault
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demeter stays locked until after epilogue

brisk trail
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How

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I get the convos after doing the family reunion correct?

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I did the family reunion but got 0 of the things I should have

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The only fated task I have left is queens plan

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Confusion

solar vault
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the family reunion IS the epilogue

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probably an error

stone rune
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have you talked to persephone

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iirc you need to talk to her afterwards

brisk trail
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I think so

solar vault
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Did you do the Family Reunion quest?

brisk trail
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I just didn't get the dem talking abt kore and zues talking abt kore

brisk trail
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But I don't have queen plan

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Not uncomplete

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It's not even there

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I've asked the guy or girl in the hades tech support channel

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And he told me some stuff that idek what to do with

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But didn't wanna be rude

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So I just

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Quit the game for a couple of days

latent moon
latent moon
stone rune
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or luck

latent moon
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Also luck yeah

brisk trail
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And skill

latent moon
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Looking at ocamls 7:30 50 heat run

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My 51 heat build was so much better than my 50 heat lol

latent moon
stone rune
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some of that experience is 1erf

brisk trail
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Oki

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Also

latent moon
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I did a good chunk of speedrunning before getting into high heat so I sunk a lot of hours into that and learning the game

latent moon
brisk trail
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Does woodland theme disappear from work orders at some point regularly

latent moon
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Once you buy it it'll be gone

brisk trail
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I got all themes and woodland just disappeared

brisk trail
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And I don't have it

latent moon
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Should be there

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Don't see why it shouldn't be

brisk trail
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That's weird

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It's not there

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Does it have requirements or something

brisk trail
latent moon
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Are you looking under the right tab

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Because you should be able to buy all of them

brisk trail
latent moon
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Work orders

brisk trail
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Same thing with sonorous aswell

solar vault
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I remember reading the wiki and there was some weird extra requirement for current darkness for some of the themes

latent moon
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Should be under work orders in the contractor

brisk trail
latent moon
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Oh you prob didn't get the prereqs then

brisk trail
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I have everything other than those 3 themes

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And Idk what's their prereqs

brisk trail
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So only woodland I can do so far

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The other two have no prereqs

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They just say all other non theme items in work orders

latent moon
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You're probably missing some other work order then

brisk trail
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Only woodland

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And those 2

brisk trail
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Ima try getting queens plan and leave hades for some days weeks maybe months

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So ye bye

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noooo olympian keepsake + refreshing nectar + 2 rerolls wasn't enough for a duo boon shadegrief

stone rune
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dont roll twice

brisk trail
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it was a trial room

latent moon
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Trials can't give duos

brisk trail
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what

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💀

latent moon
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Lmao

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You're pissing them off they don't wanna give you duos

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And other gods don't wanna get more involved

brisk trail
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i wasted my nectar...

latent moon
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Lmao rip

brisk trail
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lesson learned 🛐

glass quiver
latent moon
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it just changes the end screen

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and i think the boon view menu

stone rune
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the menu when you press b

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not the other obon menu i think

latent moon
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that is the boon view menu isnt it

stone rune
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the first time when i read it i thought boon view menu was viewing boon selections

glass quiver
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that makes sense, still a cute detail, like the side bar during runs boon menu or the extension of the codex boon menu?

gray apex
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It's mostly just the victory screen

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Your boon menu also gets changed but you'll have to open it to see

brisk trail
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the sidebar gets little theme-y accents

woeful trout
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Nectar makes rare boons more likely?

brisk trail
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eurydice's buff

woeful trout
vital spade
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Is zag a homosexicle

woeful trout
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Homosexual yeah

analog elbow
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He's more of a trisexicle

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He would make for an excellent Star Trek main character

atomic dome
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hello beautiful SG community members, so good to be here. ive recently been lovingly crafting vids of my Hades runs for my youtube channel & plan on posting the first one tomorrow, & would love to share my joyous experiences playing this one-of-a-kind game with anybody who loves it as much as i do. would it be appropriate to link to my Hades vids here, and if so which channel do they belong on? tysm & very much looking forward to engaging with the community 💜🖤💜

latent moon
high island
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Yep, that's the one.

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Welcome to the server~! friendly dusa

latent moon
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unless you want like gameplay feedback, and then you can maybe post it here or #h1-builds-and-combat but like every once in a while probably not too often
or post it in #self-promotion and then drop the message link in one of those two places and ask for advice

atomic dome
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omg these emotes im dyin 😭 too perfect. thanks yall it's good to be here :3

random dawn
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holy christmas trees im terrible with aspect of beowulf I just died to the medusa boss / falling whatever thing in asphodel 😂

strong steppe
rustic falcon
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for lucifer would artemis' boons benefit it more or zeus' boons

manic vine
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So I have 300 coins and I'm at the Temple. Do I buy 2 boons from lady Demeter or get a pom and try to upgrade my Frost Strike one last time?

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It's already level 5, so I'm not sure if I should pick the pom and wish for some luck

high island
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Poms on Frost Strike don't really do too much past Lv.3ish probably.

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Buy the boons and get some t2 boons from her.

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Killing Freeze ideally if you don't have that yet.

manic vine
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Lol I got rare crop for the first

high island
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Well, probably wanna pick another one. tizomg

manic vine
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I got rare crop for both pulls XD

atomic dome
manic vine
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Couldn't find killing freeze so I'll go ravenous will

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The beams do a lot of damage

high island
manic vine
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And I use my cast a lot

high island
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You can get your roles in #bot-commands by the way.

latent moon
strong steppe
high island
latent moon
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when you have zeus atk, you want to keep getting zeus for jolted + maybe a chance at splitting bolt

high island
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m stuck at 53. shadegrief

latent moon
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i haven't tried past 51 shadegrief

strong steppe
high island
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Mainly because I haven't been playing for a few days and did speedruns instead when I did play. tizomg

manic vine
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With the boons I got, I'm also going Arctic blast

strong steppe
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I'm sure you can do it !

manic vine
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I have crystal beam and glacial glare

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So blast go brrr

high island
strong steppe
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You all seem to be wonderful and i'm sure you will succeed !

strong steppe
rustic falcon
atomic dome
manic vine
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Going for that final boss, wish me luck cryplant

high island
# strong steppe Yep

Yeah, just need to not get garbage AP2 boons on Chiron lol. Just a matter of time tbh.

strong steppe
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You have been really helpful with me since i've arrived and give me tips and link that helped a lot and nah i'm interested in strategic ways.

rustic falcon
silver mica
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I tried a run earlier that really got me bad

silver mica
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EM3 and FO1

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That did not go well

atomic dome
high island
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That might be of some help for finding good pacts.

high island
strong steppe
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I think I did to improve and find my weapon. Understand how they all work and learn how to have a good build ! ❤️💜

But unfortunately, changing from french to english is a bit of difficult to understand strategy because I dunno all the traductions krkr

strong steppe
latent moon
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"have luck"

strong steppe
high island
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We don't call pacts "pact builds". Build refers to boons and hammers and all that in a run.

atomic dome
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i always found it funny that we tell ppl to break their legs before an important event in english

random dawn
latent moon
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shield kinda gud

manic vine
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I was so close

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He was sliver health

rustic falcon
manic vine
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I was caught slipping

latent moon
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you bought that contractor upgrade for fated authority didn't you

atomic dome
latent moon
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when you pick up keys

rustic falcon
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oh yeah i did

latent moon
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yeah that's what that is

rustic falcon
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is that a bad upgrade or smth

atomic dome
latent moon
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since you haven't unlocked that prat of the mirror yet, it's fated authority, so you can reroll door rewards

latent moon
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well the contractor upgrade is

manic vine
rustic falcon
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oh

latent moon
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fated authority isn't that great, but you dont really have a choice in the matter atm

rustic falcon
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wait so do i only get 1 reroll per run or per chamber

latent moon
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well it's good if you dont have any other option i suppose lol

rustic falcon
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oh

latent moon
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you get more by picking up more keys

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or upgrading the mirror

rustic falcon
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i see

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so i have more of a reason to pick up keys

latent moon
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yeah

glass quiver
manic vine
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Bro I was so close, Beams hitting the man for some crazy damage

latent moon
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those type of contractor upgrades incentivize picking up meta game rewards in the late game when you dont really need them

manic vine
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Missiles for the skulls

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Goddamnit

gray apex
# strong steppe Oh, you mean a good pact build?

When you go up in heat you’ll have to mix a bunch of pacts together. A lot of newer players tend to pivot towards tougher pacts and miss some strats, although some stuff is not very intuitive, so that guide is a good place to start so you get used to the good pacts that are whats considered the fundamentals of high heat and you avoid the bad pacts that hurt your runs a lot more than they appear to be doing.

high island
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Use Fated Authority to reroll into keys to get more rolls to reroll into more keys to use to unlock the mirror and switch to Fated Persuasion. tizomg

glass quiver
rustic falcon
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so thats why end game players dont like darkness as a room reward

atomic dome
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i only ever play w fated authority. i cant stand not having the ability to try for stacking boons of a certain god, esp bc most of my builds involve only 2 gods except for maybe an an athena dash & hermes obvi

atomic dome
high island
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Persuasion way stronger, though.

rustic vale
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Persuasion is just way stronger in multiple dimensions

high island
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That's why like 100% of speedruns use Persuasion and 99.9% of high heat runs use Persuasion. (The 0.1% in high heat are @analog elbow. tizomg)

strong steppe
latent moon
strong steppe
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Persuasion is changing room. The other one is bad?

latent moon
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authority is room change

rustic vale
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Persuasion is changing boons

latent moon
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persuasion is the gud one

glass quiver
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I gonna be honest, I never look at the name of the mirror powers, I just call em the green ones or by what they do. I've started to put up a screenshot of the mirror up when in the discord lol

latent moon
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aight fated persuasion is at the very bottom of the mirror and is green

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the one with the funky dice and is super expensive

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you can buy 4 of those things

rustic vale
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Uber useful

atomic dome
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omg i had no idea i was in such a small minority on preferring fated authority lmao everybody cept me is dissing it xD

brisk trail
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we hate 🤬😡 fated authority

rustic vale
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It kind of just doesn’t help anywhere near as much tbh

latent moon
gray apex
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You’ll need a ton of rng and a good amount of experience to make Fated Authority work

rustic vale
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plus even zeus builds still want fated persuasion for hermes

latent moon
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for flat damage soup yeah

rustic vale
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And chaos

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And wells

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And purging pools if uc

high island
random dawn
# atomic dome i always made the most headway with the shield before any other weapon for this ...

Yeah that's exactly what I meant. I couldnt beat heat 5 on like any weapon when I started. I got lucky with some amazing boons and escaped my first ever time with rail! Then couldnt win anymore. Then I swapped to shield, kept losing but made progress and eventually beat each attempt up to heat 11 then swapped to bow and was like "wow this is so much more fun now that I'm not getting constantly destroyed!"

high island
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Ngl you could nerf Fated Persuasion to only work with Lord Hermes boons and I'd still take it over Authority.

atomic dome
rustic vale
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Persuasion helps to get that duo along with everything else

latent moon
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yeah lol

random dawn
rustic vale
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if authority let you roll into more then 2 hermes it would be good

latent moon
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would it

gray apex
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No

rustic vale
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Idk

gray apex
latent moon
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lmao

rustic vale
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It would be better

atomic dome
latent moon
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fair

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authority is good for meme runs

glass quiver
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the effectiveness of either of the re-rolls is going to depend on weather you have the ones above it switched to better legendary/duos or more rares/epics.

stone rune
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you guys don't do hoarding slash every run?

atomic dome
high island
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Persuasion lets you reroll a boon that's buffed with Refreshing Nectar or Yarn of Ariadne + god keepsake (both of which increase Duo Boon odds).

latent moon
rustic vale
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Whether or not you have god’s legacy/pride means nothing for authority/persuasion

gray apex
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Good you shouldnt

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Unless you’re speedrunning sword

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God forbid

high island
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Yeah, not really. Persuasion just outclasses Authority by miles, unfortunately.

latent moon
analog elbow
rustic vale
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This convo has been had many many times

high island
gray apex
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Because menu

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For than

latent moon
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oh for menu than

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ye

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i'll keep that in mind

gray apex
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The hammer probably wont do much

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Piercing wave gud ig

rustic vale
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Breaching slash gud but too late for it to matter in ely I think

high island
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Authority is best when you want to avoid boons. So there's that. 😂

rustic vale
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👍

latent moon
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and i'm not good enough at the game to do consistent dstrikes

high island
glass quiver
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oh well i just mean that if my boons are already going to be duo/legendary then choosing which god they come from makes sense, but if I boost rare/epic then rerolling the boon itself makes sense. [just how I like to play even if it doesn't make statistical sense]

rustic vale
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Nah you want better rarity hermes

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get the boons you want at better rarity

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And you can’t just get more hermes

atomic dome
gray apex
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Understanding how the god pool works and how boons are rolled will improve your decision making by a lot when running Persuasion

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Which will only make it stronger

latent moon
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and yeah, standard combo is special -> 2x dstrikes

atomic dome
latent moon
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i can do it pretty well, but every now and then a random standing atk is slapped out, which isn't bad but if i'm forced into world splitter for my 2nd hammer then it's bad lmao

atomic dome
gray apex
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Optimal sword play is a ton of practice to get down

rustic vale
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You are “thrusting” on a dash strike thougg

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Not really

high island
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haelian was probably the top player for most of early access, but he's not that tryhard anymore in the game.

latent moon
gray apex
latent moon
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iirc he beat 55 heat recently lol

atomic dome
rustic vale
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I’m the top player in this year of our lord 3074

gray apex
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56

latent moon
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oh damn really

gray apex
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Idk

high island
latent moon
#

i remember watching the 55

high island
#

As usual.

gray apex
#

Oh

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I might be wrong then im not sure

rustic vale
latent moon
#

he might've done another so who knows lol

atomic dome
gray apex
#

Just remember being sad that his pb is ahead of mine

rustic vale
#

Yeah but it does get affected by dedge so

gray apex
latent moon
#

oh yeah haelian got 56 heat

gray apex
#

Yea

rustic vale
#

Based

latent moon
#

vid title says 2 legendary boons

#

so he cheated clearly

brisk trail
#

ginger father

high island
gray apex
#

Atleast at that time he probably had the motivation to fight back for it

#

I’d need so much practice just to get one more heat in

#

And more importantly

#

Motivation bouldy

latent moon
#

the motivation is to beat a youtuber

brisk trail
#

make a yt channel with the same name and exceed them in views and subs

gray apex
latent moon
#

get 3 legendaries

gray apex
#

Also like

#

Beo is unimpressive nowadays bouldy

high island
latent moon
high island
gray apex
latent moon
#

uh

#

what heat would this be

gray apex
#

Atleast 50

latent moon
#

ik 50+ but like

#

okay fair enough

gray apex
#

You can also go back to that chaos em4 pact if you’d like

latent moon
#

oh right

#

i think i dont wanna do either

gray apex
#

Yea thought so

#

Idk why you would

rustic falcon
#

i did not know that you could get legendary boons from gods you didnt choose at the trial challenge things

gray apex
#

The 56 pact I was practicing for was Rama

high island
#

How could MiKE be honestly impressed by a Charged Flight win at 50 Heat when I did a Charged Flight win at 52 Heat years ago? tizomg

#

It's 2023 now, gotta go higher than that.

#

Times have changed.

latent moon
#

53 heat cflight beo :(

gray apex
#

50 is respectable

#

It’s a starting point

high island
#

Yeah, but is it impressive?

latent moon
#

see my issue here is that the option for 50 is either em4, ap2 dc1, or ap2 cp2 and those all sound horrible

gray apex
#

Well

high island
#

Just do RI if you're doing Charged Flight.

gray apex
#

Have you heard of routine inspection

latent moon
#

oh yeah

#

okay this is doable

high island
#

And AP.

latent moon
#

"doable"

high island
#

All you need is Heartbreak Flourish lol.

#

And some way to make up for the lost 200% base damage. tizomg

latent moon
#

so this would have to be ri2 huh

gray apex
#

Just your average Hestia pact

#

RI2 AP2

latent moon
#

hestia but cflight beo

#

i will only attempt this once

gray apex
#

But it’s AP2 that’s unfair

#

Do 3 attempts that start with epic flourish

high island
#

Everyone but the high heat players went quiet. tizomg

latent moon
#

oops

rustic vale
#

Probably better then icy flare

latent moon
gray apex
#

I might try

#

It’s probably a bad idea bouldy

latent moon
#

am i allowed to play normal beo until i get cflight

gray apex
#

sure ig

latent moon
#

cool because common special lol

gray apex
#

You’re gonna bleed a lot of time in lategame anyway bouldy

#

Keep 4 minutes for the heroes fight

latent moon
#

lmfao

#

hammer or chaos residentzag

#

slippery grasp lmfao

rustic vale
#

Modded into charged flight

latent moon
#

i literally god natural arty and pos

#

and got flood flare

#

this is so cursed

#

where is my cflight hammer bouldy

#

died to alecto lol

#

i blame no cflight

#

oh wait haelian didn't beat 56 heat he only posted it because of 2 legendaries lmao

#

get scammed

#

Unaruably

#

That's all you need to know about why it went wrong lol

brisk trail
#

i like him 👉👈

rustic falcon
#

this is the best deal

#

and i got lucifer with zeus attack

burnt yoke
#

Just had a run with Flying Cutter with a level 5 epic flourish, 2 chaos flourish upgrades (one epic), and the epic flourish speed from Hermes. I just flew around the rooms going sheaw sheaw sheaw.

latent moon
rustic falcon
#

oh yea true

#

i didnt think of that well tht suck

stone rune
#

does after party work on lc4

latent moon
#

I don't think so

stone rune
#

it appears we have precedent

#

from the ancient tomes

rustic vale
untold crown
#

switch says I've played exactly 420 hours of Hades. (and I still haven't got Unseen One, granted I completed everything else first and haven't been farming darkness properly)

wise jungle
#

Where do The Unseen Ones play?

woeful trout
#

Oh

#

Ok but are you seriously telling me thesus shield can block a rocket

stone rune
#

uh

#

im on my first em4 try

#

turns out im on SD

#

it cant be that bad right

#

no fo

woeful trout
#

What’s a good Lucifer build

mint coral
woeful trout
#

A bear

mint coral
woeful trout
#

How often do you normally use Lucifer special

mint coral
#

Look for static discharge, triple bomb is its best hammer

stone rune
#

nvm it was fine

rustic vale
woeful trout
#

Is guan yu good

stone rune
#

pretty good

#

just q

rustic vale
latent moon
#

guan yu is based

#

esp with high confidence

rustic vale
latent moon
#

easy

rustic vale
#

Still better then fresh file tbh

#

/j

latent moon
#

it is better than fresh file because of the range lol

#

even if hammers were allowed for normal ff, guan yu is just safer lol

random dawn
#

Dear Hades I just had my easiest escape ever getting carried by aphrodite with her charm/weak stuff and flurry shot

#

I've never been at the end with 1200 before exiting. I just never felt the need to buy anything

dire tendon
latent moon
#

shield can block everything until dad decides to walk through it and smack you

woeful trout
#

Wine laser time

#

Does chaos booms effect DOT

#

Like hangover

lone sable
#

No

woeful trout
#

Lame

woeful trout
lone sable
#

Yes

#

Not very active there tho

woeful trout
#

How to detonate hellfire

#

Just got a dumb idea

solar vault
#

luci beam I find is pretty unreliable to detonate hellfire because it’ll just auto aim to whatever enemy is close by

woeful trout
#

Lucifer doom where every laser tick adds onto it using the doom stack boom

lone sable
#

I personally dont use auto aim but its still not reliable

#

Because enemies just go in front of the beam

#

Maybe im just bad

#

But anyway a good way to make them go boom i found is using dash core boons

#

Divine dash is goated

amber veldt
#

whats a good amount of heat for someone who just completed their first run?

lone sable
#

1

sour fog
#

you might want to finish all the weapons with no heat first to get the other bounties

lone sable
#

It really depends on the player

#

I just go up 1 by 1 for a slower difficulty curve

latent moon
amber veldt
amber veldt
sour fog
amber veldt
#

true

latent moon
#

tbh just stick with the weapon you like and get good at it for a while for now
you'll progress farther and learning enemy patterns and movement helps you get better at the other weapons too

#

i used to have like no rail or spear experience and i avoided them for a long time because i was bad at them

#

i still avoid spear because i'm bad at it tho

#

relatively bad

whole tartan
#

Are there mod or way to see highest heat cleared with each aspect

solar vault
#

For your own runs? You can check the admin chamber

#

I realise you said aspect, not just weapon, you can try asking in the hades modding discord (pinned in #self-promotion )

rustic vale
burnt yoke
#

Yo Rocket Bomb + Cluster Bomb is insane.

rustic vale
#

Clockets is insane👍

mint coral
#

Clockets do be hilarious

burnt yoke
#

Had a level 5 epic chill rocket with both epic chaos and hermes flourish boons as well.

#

Just repeatedly slapping Hades for 2k dmg with the special button.

molten copper
#

how does athena's DDwork with SD?

raw herald
#

If you lose your sd in a room before picking up the dd, you get a dd for the rest of the run

molten copper
#

if i still have the sd?

mint coral
#

If you still have the sd while you picktheboon you only get the extra benefits (+healing or more invul time)

#

So if you are gonna fetanathena boon and have either open, try to lose the sd on purpose

molten copper
#

can i get the dd boon on my first encounter with her?

#

i hear the term tier2 boon, idk what that means

rustic vale
#

Tier 2 means you have to have one of her other boons

#

First

#

So you can’t get it on first encounter with her

whole tartan
rustic falcon
#

is there a guide to know which god is best for a weapon

chrome heath
#

Aplenty

#

Check pinned messages in builds and combat channel

#

High heat too, for advanced

vital spade
#

I speeeen

woeful trout
#

Curse of nausea the one time I don’t run hangover on Lucifer

#

Pain

rustic falcon
gray apex
rustic falcon
#

ohh

jolly shadow
#

little question, in the english language of the game, does "dash" mean the moove you do when you... literally dash xD or does is mean the attack you can you with the combo dash + attack?

stone rune
#

dash is the movement

#

combo is dash strike

jolly shadow
#

thx

vital spade
rustic falcon
latent moon
#

i'd just take triple for prophecy lol
all are pretty good tbh

rustic falcon
#

oh

#

fair point

latent moon
#

the idea is to get close and launch casts as fast as possible, and twin/point blank both boost the up close damage

rustic falcon
#

i thought triple shot was bad because of the spread pattern

latent moon
#

but triple is still good if you get right in their face

rustic falcon
#

i see

high island
#

Triple and Twin are much better than Point-Blank.

untold crown
#

weird question but if you beat asterius in the elysium midboss fight, can he ever die from residual damage even after yielding? only asking because demeter decay and some other stuff seemed like it came pretty close during a recent run. and it would be funny if he exploded or something while stomping out

latent moon
#

he can die in the miniboss fight lol

high island
#

He just has his normal death animation.

latent moon
#

he'll still appear in the boss fight at the end of ely tho

untold crown
#

so it can happen, that's funny

rustic falcon
#

ok triple shot is a lot better than i thought, its really good

high island
#

Some people prefer Twin Shot, some prefer Triple Shot. But they're both great.

chrome heath
#

Quíntuple shot

woeful trout
#

Damn positive outlook is better than I thought

#

What’s the best god for Lucifer hellfire

latent moon
#

the special?

#

artemis or aphrodite

#

if hellfire is attack, then zeus

high island
#

Hellfire is Special.

rustic falcon
#

ig life affirmation isnt that bad

tacit dock
#

:C Touch of Styx why so rare

latent moon
#

it do be like that

#

are you using stubborn defiance?

tacit dock
#

i just need this for the prophecy

latent moon
#

well yeah but you can't get it unless you're using stubborn defiance

tacit dock
#

oh i didn;t know that

sour fog
#

yeah touch of styx boosts SD, if you're using death defiance instead of touch of styx you get the one for 200 to regain it, they're exclusive with each other

tacit dock
#

got it

#

i mean i will switch next run

#

maybe i will get it

woeful trout
#

Had the most broken build by far

latent moon
#

can't just say that and not elaborate lol

woeful trout
#

The biggest shame of the run is having smoldering air and not getting a call in the end

stone rune
#

the only charm sources are aid and lego

latent moon
#

why'd you sell your call if you had smair lmao

#

based build tho

woeful trout
#

It was Aphrodite

latent moon
#

i mean it's still fine

#

perma stun is neat

woeful trout
#

I wanted Poseidon

latent moon
#

not damage but it's good utility

rustic falcon
#

i suck with the bow i have gotten to hades and gotten him to like less than 50% hp at phase 2, 4 times but i cant beat him

woeful trout
#

Then he gave me 4 sunken treasures

latent moon
#

pos dont have good damage either

woeful trout
rustic falcon
#

hera

woeful trout
#

And it doesn’t really lose anything from becoming limited to one bar

stone rune
#

if ur getting into bow use zag

latent moon
#

you lose dps because you yourself aren't attacking

latent moon
stone rune
#

more complicateed

latent moon
#

not really, just hit the shot

stone rune
#

you have to manage stones and stuff

latent moon
#

it gets more complicated if you aren't using crush shot

latent moon
woeful trout
#

Rama best bow aspect

latent moon
#

rama gud

#

hard to learn tho

woeful trout
#

I don’t even used shared suffering

#

I just go triple shot or Zeus special

stone rune
#

what

latent moon
#

using special only isn't really learning rama lmao it's just budget delta chamber rail lmao

stone rune
#

literally just use hestia then

latent moon
#

triple shot is fair enough tho

stone rune
#

if you're just gonna end up charging a long time for a 125 damage shot without free 60%

woeful trout
latent moon
#

i mean it still chunks enough without it tbh

#

actually is it only 125

#

i thought it was more

stone rune
#

yeah dash strike power shot is 125

#

175 non dash power

latent moon
#

oh lmao

#

not using free shared suffering kinda sad tho

stone rune
#

it's literally free 60% extra damage

burnt yoke
#

This run is going well.

#

Oh you can't post images here lol.

#

Room one I got Hazard bomb, and I found chaos twice before getting half way through Asphodel getting a flourish boon each time. Also have a level 4 epic flourish already.

brisk trail
#

radioactive

latent moon
stone rune
#

i have a server specifically for this

#

but you can use any server

tacit dock
#

i felt revenge playing with lucifer killing dusa heads? or whatever they called

#

oh Snakestone their name

burnt yoke
#

Charon sold me the 30% speed in the final shop what a homie.

stone rune
#

wait

burnt yoke
#

Yeah, I'm still trying to forge my bond with Dio so I took his keepsake on the first floor.

#

You don't have to build around the initial attack with Hestia, have had plenty of successful Hestia runs with Dio/Zeus.

stone rune
#

might prefer his call

#

the entire build of hestia is the attack

woeful trout
#

Good thunder rail boons?

#

I cant think of any boons that boost electric bolts

#

Besides storm lightning

stone rune
#

clockets isn't reliable

burnt yoke
#

This wasn't high heat lol

stone rune
#

(to get)

burnt yoke
#

You can see it right there

stone rune
#

well yeah

burnt yoke
#

I'm going one heat at a time.

stone rune
#

but generally you don't want to be doing on-hit effects with hestia

burnt yoke
#

With whatever weapon has darkness buff generally.

stone rune
#

dio call is great though

#

cause the thing is you'd just have a better time with eris with that build

#

other than hazard

burnt yoke
#

I haven't leveled Eris, I don't really like the idea of having to keep applying my special. If there was a button you could bind that was "cast special on self" then I'd be willing to give it a try.

stone rune
#

i mean

#

you're specialing every like 1.5 seconds anyways

#

you just have to walk into it

rustic vale
#

Then storm lightning purely for splitting bolt tbh

woeful trout
#

What do I need for Fully Loaded

sour fog
#

exit wounds, pressure points and support fire, you need at least 2 of those

#

you can check requirements in codex

#

if you have the upgrade from contractor

woeful trout
#

Actually does exit work with Stygian soul

high island
#

Shady and Antos.

#

Shady is from Sisyphus. Antos is from Master Achilles and Patroclus.

woeful trout
#

Does auto reload do anything h

#

For Stygian soul

high island
#

Yes. Makes it regenerate a lot faster.

woeful trout
#

Or is it literally useless and am I dumb

#

It doesn’t seem to be doing anything

high island
#

If it's common, you won't notice the effect as much.

woeful trout
#

Mirage shot

#

Yoo

#

6 Stygian souls

#

God fears me now

high island
#

Lol yeah if you have that many, you won't notice Auto Reload.

#

Can't cast fast enough to run out really.

woeful trout
#

I just need a Hermes cast boom

#

And the Prometheus stone

#

And I’ll be unstoppable

#

Also bone hourglass is kinda good

high island
#

It's very good, yeah.

woeful trout
#

The 300 obols worth of damage boosters in my back pocket

high island
#

Did a lot of work for me in my last run on 53 Heat.

woeful trout
#

The final boss did not stand a chance against what o think was like 15 cast lodges

#

Chaos hard carry

#

Gotta say this game feels different to other rougelikes I’ve played (one other)

#

Just wanna ask what’s your most taken Boon? I’m curious

#

Mine is greatest reflex

atomic kestrel
#

btw is there a place where i could for advice on builds?

latent moon
atomic kestrel
#

i cant post images there:/

gray apex
#

What a surprise

vital spade
#

Touching grass times used: 0

latent moon
#

Lmfao

gray apex
#

Yea we don’t do that here

latent moon
#

On my modded file I think out of the 500 runs, 450 of them are prob beo

gray apex
#

Although it’s been since 32 heat wr that I grinded anything seriously

#

Just some heat and hypermodded after that

latent moon
#

Beo 50 cflight

gray apex
#

Yea but that’s not a grind

#

I’m just a real gamer what can I say

#

Fr tho I wanted to try 53 cflight but couldnt today so maybe saturday or something idk

latent moon
#

Lmao fair enough

marble fiber
#

how do you get the Thorn of Thanatos achievment

woeful trout
#

Or something

gray apex
#

Yes

woeful trout
#

Any reason?

latent moon
#

Mirage shot bug

#

Big boom damage

marble fiber
#

So isn't hades related to zeus?

gray apex
#

It has charged shot, one of the strongest hammers in the game. It also uses flares which are bugged with Mirage shot so if you have it you’ll do an extra 100% instead of 30%. And it’s also like the safest weapon in the game.

woeful trout
#

Gonna be honest I never used Beowulf because I leveled it up thinking the cast explosion would be larger and deal more damage

#

And it did not do that

gray apex
#

Levelling it up buffs the attack

#

Not the cast

toxic trellis
woeful trout
marble fiber
#

but there is another one with his keepsake

woeful trout
#

So the gist is it’s broken with mirage shot because it deals full damage with the 2nd shot

gray apex
marble fiber
#

30% or something

latent moon
#

At max level, a loaded dragon rush with cshot will do 160 base damage

woeful trout
latent moon
#

Yes

toxic trellis
gray apex
#

Yes

woeful trout
latent moon
#

Hestia is good for no hits

gray apex
marble fiber
gray apex
#

And also ignores the hammer

woeful trout
#

Wait does Beowulf change certain casts

toxic trellis
#

Yes

woeful trout
#

Which ones

gray apex
#

All of them

toxic trellis
#

Instead of Dem’s meme beam, you get something else

woeful trout
#

My god I thought chilling flare was just a normal boon

#

Or whatever it’s called

#

So every cast just turns into an explosion

#

What about Ares?

toxic trellis
#

His normal one fires blade rifts

gray apex
#

It’s a bit bigger and lasts less time and it’s incompatible with hunting blades

#

And it’s probably the worst Beowulf cast

woeful trout
#

Isn’t hunting blades like really really broken

gray apex
#

Atleast icy flare hits enemies

woeful trout
#

Ok I gotta try out Beowulf sometime then

latent moon
#

Slicing also hits

gray apex
woeful trout
#

Does charge shot get affected by the level up effects of Beowulf

marble fiber
#

who do you guys think has the best aid

latent moon
#

Yes

gray apex
marble fiber
#

yeah

marble fiber
woeful trout
marble fiber
#

dionysis

#

athena's one

marble fiber
woeful trout
#

Well not Athena

#

I don’t really like that one

marble fiber
#

zeus' one is probably the strongest one

#

i think

#

ares' one is a meh for me

latent moon
#

Tbf pos is good for positioning at least

#

Imo it's good for high heat

gray apex
latent moon
#

I wouldn't take it for damage lol

gray apex
#

I would

#

It has really good damage

woeful trout
#

How do I check codex mid run

gray apex
#

And pom scaling

#

Get gud at surfing

marble fiber
latent moon
#

I mean it does have good damage and whatnot but I don't use it for damage so it's not my priority lol

gray apex
#

Also don’t use it in the alecto fight

latent moon
#

Wait what

#

Why

woeful trout
#

How good is hades aid

latent moon
#

100% damage boost good

#

Aphrodite erasure

#

@high island get him

gray apex
latent moon
#

No

marble fiber
#

what's the relation between hades and persophene by the way

#

arent they like niece and uncle though

#

yeah, but their familial relation

high island
woeful trout
#

Turning off god pride and getting 6 common boons

latent moon
marble fiber
#

im glad they didnt focus on that aspect too much

gray apex
latent moon
#

Damn

gray apex
#

Too bad ig

latent moon
#

What happens tho

woeful trout
#

Please give me rare crop Demeter

#

That’s all I ask

gray apex
#

Wait no its on yt

floral heath
#

hello, i was wondering how do i unlock the last aspect of the twin fists?

woeful trout
#

RARE CROP

#

WOOO

floral heath
#

ok ty

woeful trout
#

I don’t care if it sucks

#

I like red boons

latent moon
#

Snurst on a noncastpect

woeful trout
#

Also what’s snurst

marble fiber
#

just try to fight him before the final mini boss fight in elysium

gray apex
marble fiber
#

and you will eventually get special message

woeful trout
#

Does boosting attack with Beowulf increase flare damage

latent moon
woeful trout
marble fiber
#

has anyone here completed max level heat

latent moon
#

That's so cursed

woeful trout
#

I mean

#

That’s not a very good comparison

marble fiber
#

baj?

latent moon
#

As soon as I saw you kill alecto with the call I knew the momentum would've been funky

#

Didn't think that'd happen tho

marble fiber
#

how did he do it

#

what what his weapon

#

boons?

gray apex
#

Yea the momentum

#

Is the thing

gray apex
latent moon
#

Launch yourself into the magma in the corner of the screen

gray apex
#

Yea it happens in lernie too you gotta spam dash so you don’t yeet yourself in lava

gritty pivot
#

Hi!