isnt bad news really good because of the bug\
#h1-discussion
ionic minnow
native blade
How?
ionic minnow
i see
native blade
Eh, I have Privileged Status, i just need another cc boon.
brisk trail
someone tell me if twin shot is gonna work as good as hera as i think it
native blade
Is that another name for Rush Delivery? or is there a legendary that the wiki doesn't have.
brisk trail
considering all my other hammers are for special im still probably gonna take it
native blade
Ye, is there a problem?
ionic minnow
how can people say spear is 4th best weapon when spear has flurry jab
high island
Guan Yu guide: #h1-discussion message
high island
Is that another name for Rush Delivery? or is there a legendary that the wiki do...
Shorthand for Hyper Sprint + Rush Delivery.
high island
someone tell me if twin shot is gonna work as good as hera as i think it
Flurry, Twin, and Triple Shot are by far the best Hera hammers.
native blade
Shorthand for Hyper Sprint + Rush Delivery.
Ah.
stone rune
stygius wipes I'm afraid
stone rune
yes
native blade
I got words for u
ionic minnow
Rerolling the boon 3 times wasting 6 dice and still not getting the stupid stupid duo I wanted
stone rune
indubitably garbo
stone rune
Rerolling the boon 3 times wasting 6 dice and still not getting the stupid stupi...
don't reroll twice
silly goose
ionic minnow
whyyyy i wanted the duo
stone rune
we had this conversation yesterday
native blade
Rerolling the boon 3 times wasting 6 dice and still not getting the stupid stupi...
This is why Authority better/j
stone rune
cannot believe u would say this
native blade
*Arguably...
ionic minnow
we had this conversation yesterday
i was most certainly not part of this conversation
ionic minnow
could you maybe link a message from the conversation so I can read the facts and analysis on why I shouldnt ever reroll more than once
native blade
Trash luck, git gud
stone rune
could you maybe link a message from the conversation so I can read the facts and...
not that conversation
ionic minnow
oh
stone rune
it was about fists
ionic minnow
Then why shouldnt we reroll more than once
native blade
But honestly that's my feel with Fated Persuasion, specially with the increasing interest.
stone rune
but you're better off just hoping you get them again
generally
unless it's like styx
Styx go ham
roll four times who cares
ionic minnow
ok but if I want a duo and I use 6 dice to reroll 3 times am I the clown or is the RNG the clown
assuming I am 100% sure I meet the duo requirement
signal aspen
ok but if I want a duo and I use 6 dice to reroll 3 times am I the clown or is t...
you
ionic minnow
damn
stone rune
6 dice amounts to 6 single rerolls or 4 doubles
ionic minnow
pools only if UC right?
stone rune
20 heat is fulfilled without needing uc
stone rune
I do hl1 em3 bp2 mm fo1 td2
brisk trail
is dio cast still good on hera
stone rune
or td3 if I'm using an aspect I'm fast wirh
signal aspen
my 16 pact is em4 ri3
ionic minnow
I guess yeah... I mean... I still want a cool duo... but yeah, it doesn't make the difference between winning or losing this run.. I guess..
stone rune
I guess yeah... I mean... I still want a cool duo... but yeah, it doesn't make t...
I would rather have legacy than use 6 dice on a single boon
signal aspen
i just get the boons
native blade
my 16 pact is em4 ri3
Nice
native blade
I guess yeah... I mean... I still want a cool duo... but yeah, it doesn't make t...
Have fun man, they're just saying it's sub-optimal, but if u wanna do it, go off.
ionic minnow
Have fun man, they're just saying it's sub-optimal, but if u wanna do it, go off...
I... wasn't even.. disagreeing..
native blade
em4 perma since heat 10 bby
native blade
I... wasn't even.. disagreeing..
I'm just saying don't be discouraged.
stone rune
em4 perma since heat 10 bby
how to never 32 heat.....
native blade
I'm at 20 bro
native blade
how to never 32 heat.....
Lel.
stone rune
20 isn't particularly far
native blade
20 isn't particularly far
It's double 10 tho.
brisk trail
Don't take EM4 until like 50 heat
native blade
It fun tho.
signal aspen
i take em4 at 9 heat
native blade
i take em4 at 9 heat
Lel, based.
ionic minnow
i take em4 at 9 heat
em4 is inherently 10 heat
tired karma
I take em4 for speed runs
signal aspen
em4 is inherently 10 heat
š± š±š±š±š±
native blade
em4 is inherently 10 heat
That's his point.
tired karma
em4+fo2 = fun
native blade
em4+fo2 = fun
Facts.
I focus on Middle management and benefits package tho.
More fun enemies
tired karma
based
brisk trail
Thank you, I plan to be the most based Hades player.
i call second
native blade
i call second
Lel, let's go.
tired karma
It's funny that after my worst deaths (high heat where I almost win) Meg comforts me with fun time
maybe there's intended correlation between these scenarios
native blade
It's funny that after my worst deaths (high heat where I almost win) Meg comfort...
Indeed.
D=
high island
'Tis random. 
tired karma
I was mad and then I wasn't
tricky game
native blade
I was mad and then I wasn't
tricky game
Smart.
It gave me a new Vic screen theme right when I had my em4 5 win streak
high island
32 is half 64 so clearly only half as hars
Correct. And I can beat 32 Heat 100% of the time, which means I can beat 64 Heat 50% of the time with the same effort.
Numbers don't lie.
brisk trail
Numbers don't lie.
then why is joel -54 feet tall in all my math problems?
native blade
Lel.
tired karma
since you jump from 8 to 16 and then from 16 to 32 then logically you should jump to 64 after beating your first 32
native blade
Bro, God needs to check on Joel, he needs some help
native blade
since you jump from 8 to 16 and then from 16 to 32 then logically you should jum...
Exactly.
native blade
Hey, were u in a stream a few minutes ago?
tired karma
no
tired karma
since I speak the truth someone told it before
native blade
What's ur biggest gripe?
tired karma
the 1/10 writing
tired karma
velma is 0/10
brisk trail
Watch Velma then tell me 1/10 writing
dont get me started on that show bruh
tired karma
and they actually greenlighted it for season 2
high island
tired karma
I thought nothing can beat she-hulk as the worst tv show but then they made velma
native blade
<#461234513427562517> <:tizomg:456913427588317184>
Thx
tired karma
probably a lot of people watched it just to see how bad it is and wb is desperate for any traction and attention since they are in 50 bil debt
potent topaz
Quick question: Does anyone know the name of the accessory that Thanatos wears around his neck?
Thanks in advance
dense iron
How do you get eurydice and orpheus back together
analog elbow
Quick question: Does anyone know the name of the accessory that Thanatos wears a...
it's a neck brace 
brisk trail
Quick question: Does anyone know the name of the accessory that Thanatos wears a...
my sense of dark humor holding back the urge to say noose
vital spade
Neck brace from having nerd neck
vital spade
bitter musk
Quick question: Does anyone know the name of the accessory that Thanatos wears a...
Neck ring I believe
brisk trail
rama with twin shot and point blank is so nutty 
high island
Rama gud.
stone rune
rama with twin shot and point blank is so nutty <:residentzag:580097451197857816...
perfect twin is incredible too
native blade
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1032194552930521108/1065784898176167947/2...
ā¦.
native blade
Just reset my mirror to get a vic screen theme lol.
latent moon
does crystal beam have no drop animation
like as soon as you press cast, does it deploy
native blade
does crystal beam have no drop animation
If it does Iām creaming.
latent moon
or does zag do the funny thing
funny flippy thing he does whenever he does a standing cast
nvm zag does a throw animation
native blade
nvm zag does a throw animation
Can I see?
native blade
Indeed.
When I get Rush Kick, My Beloved:
Honestly might switch to persuasion for this.
Fix the lounge, u need gems.
Damn, then I guess it really is worthless, huh?/j
Sure, send a screenshot or vc.
It also might be as simple as u needing to go through a few runs to get it open.
kk.
rustic falcon
is the demeter boon rare crop worth to get?
it makes all my current boons become common but random 2 boons level up in rarity every 3 encounters
native blade
it makes all my current boons become common but random 2 boons level up in rarit...
It's uncommon, not rare, why?
rustic falcon
It's uncommon, not rare, why?
for me it says "your boons become common, then gain rarity every 3 encounters"
random 2 boons
native blade
Yep.
native blade
i am in asphodel right now
It's always worth it tbh.
rustic falcon
oh aight, thanks
last mauve
I played a run with 1 heat
I uh
Died to alecto lol
native blade
Lel
last mauve
(The heat was +20% enemy health)
Maybe i should do a different one
Meg did say she didnt want to fight with her sistersā¦
rustic vale
it makes all my current boons become common but random 2 boons level up in rarit...
It doesnāt make all your boons common
It only makes the random 2
rustic falcon
It doesnāt make all your boons common
ohh i see
rustic falcon
so then does it only upgrade those 2 every 3 encounters
rustic vale
so then does it only upgrade those 2 every 3 encounters
Yes
rustic vale
Yes
rustic falcon
how?
rustic vale
Check your settings
for the button
I donāt know what you are playing on so the easiest way is just to find the button is in the control/keybinds
rustic falcon
oh i see it was B i kept pressing I thinking the boon info would show up but it didnt so i thought there wasnt one
rustic vale
it brings up like the full list of your boons, well items, hammers, heat and mirror options equiped
latent moon
you have to hover over the boons to see what they do
latent moon
(The heat was +20% enemy health)
Maybe i should do a different one
calisthenics program is unironically one of the worst pacts in the game for how much heat it gives lol
at low heat it's fine ofc, but later on when you start increasing it, keeping that on would make things more difficult then it should be
also it should be 15% enemy hp
jury summons is 20% more enemies
rustic vale
Itās never free
latent moon
it's free if you're using beo šŖ
latent moon
beowulf doesn't see health bars
rustic vale
Beowulf goes into the game files and disables them
light geyser
Am I going crazy or does putting on Bone Hourglass keepsake eliminate Charon wells from appearing in Styx??
latent moon
that's just you
but also wells in styx aren't that common to begin with
generally if you want to benefit from hourglass, you take it into elysium so you can buy from the well right before styx
light geyser
I was hoping to find Charon wells to buy things but there were 0 wells. I did all of the rooms in Styx and died to Hades from wasting time lol
latent moon
since your odds of getting a 2 sack is about 50%, it's generally worth it
also i think most well items would last for a 3 sack as well? not sure about that one
light geyser
I was leveling up the Hourglass so I kept it throughout the whole run
latent moon
oh fair
light geyser
Yea
latent moon
at least you got good progress for the levels i guess lmao
light geyser
But I always find at least 1 well, but I found none
light geyser
Thatās crazy lol
rustic vale
There isnāt a guarantee you see any wells
and I think the odds for wells and pools of purging in styx are altered
light geyser
Ok Iāll have to try another Styx run with it to be sure, Iām just flabbergasted lol
rustic vale
Wiki says itās a reduced rate but not by how much
And wiki has been wrong before
light geyser
True
rustic vale
but Iād believe it
Since Iāve been going through all the tunnels for runs recently to maximise obol gain and I think that it rings true
fervent jewel
because i cant heat up anymore i gotta find a weapon i like to complete the game with
making steady advancements on the quests though and now i'm friend with eurydice
rustic vale
because i cant heat up anymore i gotta find a weapon i like to complete the game...
Wdym canāt heat up anymore
I get what you mean
fervent jewel
rustic vale
Just saying that 20 isnāt the max lol
fervent jewel
someone dared me to go to 32 heat on another server
latent moon
do it
rustic vale
p3p?
fervent jewel
persona 3 (i am unfortunately a weeb)
rustic vale
Also imagine using em4 for 32 heat
Not me literally noticing the typo, deleting the h only to hit h again then hit send
fervent jewel
hh
latent moon
32 heat honestly isn't that bad if you have a good pact and build
def a challenge for the first time, but most people tend to have a horrible pact which leads to a horrible build, which leads to frustration and 50+ tries lmao
rustic vale
def a challenge for the first time, but most people tend to have a horrible pact...
Non-td3 non-lc4
fervent jewel
going zeus with chiron worked out for me before i might try that :o
I feel like I'm generally good enough that I can reach hades with all my lives pretty consistently and not lose one fighting him so at least i consideer myself ready enough.... maybe š³
latent moon
zeus has internal cooldowns so you only get like 1-2 bolts per special
on chiron
also depending on your pact, you might not use DDs lol
fervent jewel
idk i feel like i'm spamming thunders often but maybe i just don't notice
solar vault
My first 32 heat pact involved CP and JS and was like totally awful lol
rustic vale
also depending on your pact, you might not use DDs lol
Enter: Athena
latent moon
idk i feel like i'm spamming thunders often but maybe i just don't notice
it's per enemy, so if your special happens to hit multiple enemies, you'll get more bolts
light geyser
I just beat 32 a few days ago after weeks of trying 
latent moon
but also it is a known mechanic that you only get 1-2 bolts per chiron volley
rustic vale
Matty was so based ngl
fervent jewel
i now but i guess idk i had fun doing that and i worked out for m
latent moon
lmfao based matty
rustic vale
Jumping from 8 -> 32 heat in a matter of like 2 days with no heat inbetween
latent moon
i now but i guess idk i had fun doing that and i worked out for m
yeah it'll work for the most part
but also you probably did low heat so anything could go
latent moon
Jumping from 8 -> 32 heat in a matter of like 2 days with no heat inbetween
didn't he also do 40 afterwards lol
after cleaning up his 32 pact
fervent jewel
my max with chiron was 20
latent moon
if you did 32 with chiron with a good pact and build, you'll probably be fine
fervent jewel
i'll report on my folly and success/failure ten š
latent moon
the fact that thunder flourish worked is probably some testament to skill lol
latent moon
i'll report on my folly and success/failure ten š
do you want pointers for pact/build lmao
fervent jewel
no its fine thank u but i'd like to smash my head against that particular wall
latent moon
fair enough
fervent jewel
if i get my ass kicked tho you might see me running for advice
better win then seethe....
latent moon
lmao have fun
rustic falcon
which mirror power do you guys use more for revives stubborn defiance, or death defiance?
rustic falcon
what is lc4
latent moon
lasting consequences 4
rustic falcon
i still have no idea, i am probably not that far ahead and discovered that ig
rustic falcon
sadly no, i was close once i had some really good boon combo but the poison from the rats at the end made me loose too much hp so hades fight was hard to do and i died in the end
also dark foresight or olympian favor
latent moon
rip it do be like that
dark foresight is always better
also i recommend you stick to #h1-for-new-players
so you dont get any more spoilers lol
fervent jewel
me in elysium "man those guys are meanies weenies he styx will be easier tho"
me in the styx "NOOO I STEPPED INTO THE GIANT RAT POISON"
latent moon
styx is generally easier with a good build lol
fervent jewel
i feel it's the john wick map
solar vault
styx is either a breeze or utter suffering
latent moon
the thing is with styx is that you actually have to clear it fast otherwise poison builds up
rustic falcon
i dont get how chthonic vitality works it only restores 3 at max how is that any good
latent moon
with ely enemies, you can actually take your time because they're generally big rooms
latent moon
i dont get how chthonic vitality works it only restores 3 at max how is that any...
it's consistent
and works in styx
rustic falcon
but wouldnt the other one, dark regeneration be better? it can heal a lot more if you find the dark things
latent moon
unless you're getting eclipse boons from chaos, chthonic vitality heals more throughout the whole run iirc
rustic vale
i dont get how chthonic vitality works it only restores 3 at max how is that any...
Because dark regen is inconsistent and the only time it does have a consistent heal is when you already have a well
latent moon
but wouldnt the other one, dark regeneration be better? it can heal a lot more i...
well the darkness things dont inherently make you win the run while you're in it
this is like
fervent jewel
nah yeah the rats's poison is never a problem
rustic falcon
but how would 3 hp healed help
fervent jewel
the satyrs are annoying
rustic vale
but how would 3 hp healed help
Because itās like a total of 180 by the end of the run
plus dark regen isnāt going to heal you every time
fervent jewel
idk why but whenever i go to visit chaos without their keepsake i'm glad to see that slight +3 right before it cut to black lol
rustic falcon
nah yeah the rats's poison is never a problem
i recently found out that there was a thing that could cure the rat poison so before i would die with just stepping in poison once cuz i didnt know how to get rid of it lol
latent moon
dark foresight is good because you get more boons, poms, coins, etc so you can win runs with better odds
you see less darkness and other meta game currencies because of this
dark regen doesnt work as well because dark foresight actively works against it
fervent jewel
like yeah i took 22 dmg...
rustic vale
dark foresight is good because you get more boons, poms, coins, etc so you can w...
Plus you take keys and nectars over darkness
fervent jewel
but i regenerated 3 and will regenerate THREE MORE hehe
latent moon
idk why but whenever i go to visit chaos without their keepsake i'm glad to see ...
you also get another +3 when leaving don't forget, so free 6 hp back lol
latent moon
Plus you take keys and nectars over darkness
assuming you have that contractor upgrade yeah
rustic falcon
dark foresight is good because you get more boons, poms, coins, etc so you can w...
so dark foresight works against dark regen?
latent moon
yes
rustic vale
100%
latent moon
you just see less darkness (except after bosses, that's guaranteed) and darkness doesn't help you win runs while you're in it
rustic vale
Even if youāre darkness farming tbh
latent moon
ofc mirror is good and you should upgrade that
but in a run, you technically dont want to see darkness
rustic falcon
fair enough
latent moon
also with dark foresight i want to mention
rustic vale
Oh bruh babies first 32 pact was 
rustic falcon
so rn i need a lot of darkness for upgrading mirror to max so i just go with dark regen for right now? i need 1k for death defiance
latent moon
i only see like 3 or 4 darkness rooms throughout the whole run
solar vault
If you're still collecting darkness it's fine honestly
latent moon
so rn i need a lot of darkness for upgrading mirror to max so i just go with dar...
not really, since the bulk of your darkness is coming from bosses anyways
rustic vale
HL2, lc1, js2, em2, cp1, bp2, mm, uc, fo2, dc2, td3
rustic falcon
oh
latent moon
how much does heroes give? meg and lernie give 50 and 100 respectively iirc
rustic vale
how much does heroes give? meg and lernie give 50 and 100 respectively iirc
150 iirc
But it could be 200
Idr
rustic vale
HL2, lc1, **js2**, em2, **cp1**, bp2, mm, uc, fo2, **dc2**, td3
What a š 32 pact lol
No wonder it took me 22 tries
latent moon
lmao i wonder how long it took me
stone rune
Oh bruh babies first 32 pact was <:dusa:522248771409543188>
mine was silly
rustic vale
Mine was mega goofy
rustic vale
hl5 fo2 and td2
Thatās not bad for 32?
rustic vale
dc2 cp2 js3 cf2
š
stone rune
Thatās not bad for 32?
twere sillty
i also had hs on
nope
not uc
thats fine
hs
latent moon
i either died to champs or dad lmao
rustic falcon
oh yeah one final question, which dash ability from mirror should i use greater reflex or ruthless reflex greater reflex seems more consistent but ruthless reflexes feels more rewarding
latent moon
it was beo btw
stone rune
oh yeah one final question, which dash ability from mirror should i use greater ...
greater
latent moon
oh yeah one final question, which dash ability from mirror should i use greater ...
greater
rustic falcon
oh ok
rustic vale
oh yeah one final question, which dash ability from mirror should i use greater ...
Greater 23/24 aspects
latent moon
ruthless isnt worth it ever
stone rune
there is one (1) reason to use ruthless
stone rune
and you shouldnt be doing that anyyways
rustic falcon
there is one (1) reason to use ruthless
oh which is
latent moon
hidden fists
stone rune
gilg
rustic vale
there are 2 reasons to actually
stone rune
there are 2 reasons to actually
dodge meme?
rustic falcon
i can get near miss pretty constantly tho not always so i thought it would be better but without greater reflexes i felt slow
rustic vale
i can get near miss pretty constantly tho not always so i thought it would be be...
Better dps and survivability
rustic falcon
fair
latent moon
or a 100% dodge chance with 2 dashes
rustic falcon
true
rustic vale
also better movement
stone rune
rr when they dont get hermes reflex and they are faced against one (1) dad attack:
rustic falcon
or a 100% dodge chance with 2 dashes
and combining that with boons that let your dash do damage and inflict curse
stone rune
ddash 4ever
rustic vale
more dps via dash striking or just dashing in general with tdash
more survivability by just dashing out of the way of hits or empty dashing for iframes
Better movement -> get to enemies and doors quicker
stone rune
rr with nemesis
rustic vale
not worth
latent moon
i've only ever seen rr used on beo and gilga
rustic vale
Since misplacing my switch charger I have learned (for reasons that are definitely completely unrelated) that my mouse charger also works to charge my switch.
latent moon
lmfao
rustic vale
Yes
latent moon
i've never seen a vid of rr beo lmao
i just see the victory screens
it's only for em4 tho
iirc
i think it's also assuming you dont use cshot
rustic falcon
ok i am seeing why chthonic vitality is better than dark regen it helped me live on 1 hp or otherwise i would have been dead without it
manic kraken
also styx
manic kraken
I feel like styx and fountains are 90% of the reason chtonic is better
rustic falcon
also curse of pain or divine flourish for the bow special
rustic falcon
well i am in first layer so festive fog
and thats it
oh and hammer for 4 extra shots from special
manic kraken
oh
manic kraken
well if you have big special then Divine flourish is pretty funny
rustic falcon
oh for aspect i am using artemis aspect because i thought with it equipped i could have artemis give me a rare boon from the start but it didnt work artemis gave me commons
but i usually use the hermes dodge chance one
rustic falcon
oh
manic kraken
do you have all weapons unlocked
manic kraken
ok so you know aspects right
rustic falcon
oh the ones with blood titan
solar vault
like the different types of bow
manic kraken
yea
rustic falcon
right no i only have shield aspects rn
rustic vale
For
rustic falcon
fair
rustic falcon
so battle rage for main attack damage boost
rustic vale
oh for aspect i am using artemis aspect because i thought with it equipped i cou...
Those only force the god in, not guarantee rarities
But also
Rarity on artemis boons doesnāt matter
rustic vale
Rarity on artemis boons doesnāt matter
Except for hunters mark
Hunters mark is the only artemis boon that cares about rarity
manic kraken
hunters dash too right
rustic falcon
Uh
oh so i found Ares boon he has battle rage and curse of pain but i already have divine flourish equipped for special so i was thinking to switch to curse of pain because it does 120 damage with doom if it hits any enemy once so i thought it could be good for chip damage but now i am second guessing
rustic vale
I think hunter dash rarity is literally a 10% increase per
rustic vale
oh so i found Ares boon he has battle rage and curse of pain but i already have ...
Take battle rage
rustic falcon
aight
manic kraken
fair
latent moon
I think hunter dash rarity is literally a 10% increase per
i mean yeah but it's still a fairly large increase tbh
wouldn't be a priority but i'd put it above other things
at a certain point
native blade
Firstly, Dad's spear plus his call is better than gy easy.
Secondly how is flaring spin not the best hammer ever?
rustic vale
Secondly how is flaring spin not the best hammer ever?
Itās not particularly good tbh
native blade
Itās not particularly good tbh
Compared to?
rustic vale
I mean you have your other hades spear options of exploding launcher, charged skewer and serrated point which are dps increases
And then you have quick and massive spin which allow you to inflict the debuff to enemies faster or more at a time
And flaring in comparision kinda just lets you stand there
I doesnāt help the aspect as much as 5 other hammers on it do
And flaring spin is also on the aspects that can get flurry jab
latent moon
flaring spin is the one where you get sturdy while charging spin right
rustic vale
society
native blade
flaring spin is the one where you get sturdy while charging spin right
And there's pulse dmg ye.
rustic vale
āGet sturdy while charging spinā why must society do this to me
native blade
Seems so, I've tried all those hammers and this one is my fav without question.
rustic vale
what's your % rn
55% apparently
native blade
what's your % rn
Ion know tbh.
latent moon
either way quick spin is just better because you'd get the spin off without taking damage
native blade
Ik my High Confidence is at 5% rn.
native blade
either way quick spin is just better because you'd get the spin off without taki...
But the dmg I get as flaring spin is meaningless tbh
latent moon
and the pulse damage isn't bad i guess, but also you're still likely to get hit so i dont think it's a good trade off
native blade
Quick spin is nice but flaring spin has more utility imo
native blade
and the pulse damage isn't bad i guess, but also you're still likely to get hit ...
And the pulse.
rustic vale
Exploding launcher, charged skewer and serrated point is all better for your damage
And quick and massive spin mean you donāt have to take as long charging spin to apply the debuff
native blade
kills numbskulls and witches easily
latent moon
can't you just stab them
native blade
Well yeah, but if there's a crowd this takes care of em faster.
Plus it looks cool which is the defining reason.
latent moon
wouldn't quick spin be faster
rustic vale
it would be faster
latent moon
this is hades spear right
so just like
get a fast spin off
the spin radius is prob bigger than the pulse isn't it
because hades spear
big swing
rustic vale
I wonder if quick spin and massive spin affect the pulsing
99% they wouldnāt but who knows
native blade
it would be faster
Than the pulse? nope
latent moon
unless the pulse is as large as the spin, but idk if that's the case
doesn't hades spear spin cover the whole room tho
native blade
doesn't hades spear spin cover the whole room tho
Kinda sorta?
latent moon
more so than the pulses no?
rustic vale
Even if it wasnāt faster
Which it probably isnāt tbh I donāt remember
native blade
Not really, there's always an enemy out of range.
latent moon
couldn't the same be said about the pulse
rustic vale
Hades spear is massive
latent moon
they'd have to walk/float into range
rustic vale
couldn't the same be said about the pulse
More could be said unless pulse scale with spin size
latent moon
if you had quick spin and covered the whole room in one swing, you can just dstrike the stragglers
native blade
couldn't the same be said about the pulse
Nah cuz when enemies attack me with other spins I just lose it, but flaring spin does dot while charging and gives me sturdy
latent moon
quick spin
rustic vale
yeah well
latent moon
spin before you get hit
rustic vale
Donāt spin 2 feet away from an enemy in their attack animation
native blade
spin before you get hit
No, max every time or not worth
rustic vale
No, max every time or not worth
native blade
Donāt spin 2 feet away from an enemy in their attack animation
But it's fun
latent moon
then dont do max every time lol
rustic vale
No, max every time or not worth
Spinning for lowest time possible so I can start special spamming šŖ
native blade
Spinning for lowest time possible so I can start special spamming šŖ
Fair pov.
rustic vale
then dont do max every time lol
Nanas r you done challenge of month
latent moon
i saw lol
native blade
Get to 3124 obols (or 5220) by end of run
Is this challenge igiven nside or outside the game?
latent moon
it's this server lmao
rustic vale
Is this challenge igiven nside or outside the game?
Check pins in #h1-builds-and-combat
latent moon
rustic vale
didnt do bonus
Talos šŖ
latent moon
i dont have the patience for a run like that lmao
latent moon
didn't you do like all aspects
latent moon
Mine was broken up over time
i did 1 and was done with it lmao
rustic vale
I said I was gonna
latent moon
oh lol
rustic vale
But the Nyaanyaa @āed me about 40 heat and I was like hmm
Maybe I should go back to the main goal
rustic vale
I didnāt do it and I feel weird because I swear I see a lot of people saying they did it
Could just be survivorship bias like
latent moon
probably
latent moon
40 heat
native blade
Finally got past Lernie, damn
rustic vale
I kinda want to try zeus^2 40 heat to see if Iām just using this challenge as a way of avoiding learning that Iām not good enough for regular 40 heat
brisk trail
me getting back to hades after throwing in the most miserable way for 5 runs in a row
latent moon
I kinda want to try zeus^2 40 heat to see if Iām just using this challenge as a ...
i mean it's worth a shot
carmine wraith
So does this game just pick like 2 of the 4 gods in your loot pool to give boons for? Second run now I've started with ares keepsake and only got two ares boons total each run..
Or am I just extremely unlucky
carmine wraith
damn, certainly doesn't feel that way
The game always feels like it focuses really hard on just two
Hmm, dire misfortune or impending doom on lucifer doom attack
Think imma go dire
lone sable
What weapon do tou guys prefer?
I personally go with the fists
Trying to get the last aspect
rustic vale
Eh whatever
I find zag bow and zeus shield to be my favourites but I donāt think there is much of a gap between my least liked and most liked aspects
lunar condor
Got a question. Does choosing triple shot on Hera bow get all the shots loaded up with casts?
Or is it just the central shot thatās loaded up with the cast?
lunar condor
That actually says a lot about todayās economy
rustic vale
Got a question. Does choosing triple shot on Hera bow get all the shots loaded u...
Central
lunar condor
Oh ok
high island
is the demeter boon rare crop worth to get?
Situationally. Not something you usually aim for specifically.
carmine wraith
man I don't get why I see people all over recommending guan yu special build
I have +9 heartbreak flourish and +60% from chaos and it only does like 220 damage
With hestia I'd be doing like triple that lol
Seems nowhere near worth it for the monstrous health and healing penalty
oh actually only 200 damage, and fiery presence bumped that up to 235
Which makes me realize I have no idea how damage works in this game I guess
latent moon
With hestia I'd be doing like triple that lol
that's why you're just playing it as weird hestia lmao
oh also you need charged skewer
if you're playing guan yu, the best way is to treat it as funky hestia/bow with charged skewer
otherwise, if you want a safe aspect that can deal big damage, hestia is generally the go-to
carmine wraith
Well I'm just doing it for the prophecy
Easily my least favorite aspect so far
Now that I think about it, I think I hate all of the spear aspects, which probably means I just really hate the spear lol
carmine wraith
Weird I used to use the spear a ton when I first started because I could stay at a safe range with the special
latent moon
funny enough, that's exactly how you're supposed to play guan yu lmao
lone sable
The only weapon i really used the special with was the rail
For the others i always forget i have the special
latent moon
guan yu actually would've done huge damage for you if you had charged skewer tbh
latent moon
For the others i always forget i have the special
most of them tend to be negligible anyways
carmine wraith
what does that one do again?
latent moon
bow, shield, occasionally fists
lone sable
I main the fists rn and the special is just there
carmine wraith
demeter
latent moon
yeah you never use special on fists unless you're 1) using dem fists, 2) funky talos tech, or 3) funky dstrike dupper tech mainly used at high level play
lone sable
meanwhile me being a certified dash spammer anyway
carmine wraith
you'll love the last fist aspect then lol
latent moon
what does that one do again?
charged skewer?
carmine wraith
yeah
lone sable
you'll love the last fist aspect then lol
Wait it affects the dash attack?
carmine wraith
ah
lone sable
Btw are dmg buffs from boons additive or multiplicative?
carmine wraith
so I'd be doing hestia damage at the cost of having the charge it?
latent moon
so your special becomes like a bow, except it has better aoe and damage
latent moon
so I'd be doing hestia damage at the cost of having the charge it?
hestia with aoe and that stuff yeah
carmine wraith
oh true I guess
lone sable
Tbh im mainly not using the special cause the hotkey is rather uncomfortable to spam while dodging
carmine wraith
Wait it affects the dash attack?
You get +2 extra dashes and can hold dash to spam them all with no stop between
so if you hold dash and attack at the same time, you will do four quick dash attacks in succession
latent moon
Btw are dmg buffs from boons additive or multiplicative?
additive
so a +60% from chaos on top of +100% from aphrodite is just gonna be 160%
speed and damage reduction is multiplicative
brisk trail
can you jolt/charm hades from doing his beam attack 
latent moon
yeah
jolt just does damage tho
doesn't stun like charm
also iirc dad might start the beam atk after charm is over? not sure tho
brisk trail
ic so its charm, i had both so i didnt know what did which
latent moon
fair
half rock
AHHH I LOVE THIS GAME
latent moon
it do be like that
wicked swan
also iirc dad might start the beam atk after charm is over? not sure tho
he always starts the attack he was about to cast before being charmed after it wears off iirc
i like charming his spin attack alot and usually when the effect ends he immediately does it
lone sable
so if you hold dash and attack at the same time, you will do four quick dash att...
Ig the habbit of spamming left click with any weapon is gonna hurt me a bit
lone sable
Is athena the only god that changes theseus's main attack or am i just blind
lone sable
Oh
tired karma
Artemis is best girl in Hades
sour fog
it's hard to notice most of the time, also the status effects I think last shorter amount of time than normal so it goes by quick
lone sable
Artemis is best girl in Hades
Wdym cerebus exists
tired karma
Is athena the only god that changes theseus's main attack or am i just blind
I didn't even know his main attack changed
lone sable
The spin
tired karma
I just blast the dude
lone sable
Athena makes the spin bigger
lone sable
Athena makes the spin bigger
This is very noticable with the twin fists
tired karma
Imagine playing as the son of Zag and Artemis
all of Artemis boons are with you from the start, maxed out
lone sable
Why artemis specifically
It is a funny idea with you starting with all boons from one god but cant get any more
slim geyser
artemis is specifically not interested in men in the mythos
chrome heath
Or just one
lone sable
artemis is specifically not interested in men in the mythos
P sure she does say that at some point in one of the dual boon dialogue
high island
She also says if he ever makes it to Olympus, she'll probably ignore him like the rest of her family.
slim geyser
ive done it a couple times!
(demeter on demeter fists, dionysus on talos, zeus on zeus shield)
i might do zag bow all arty sometime
tired karma
artemis is specifically not interested in men in the mythos
and in the mythos zag is the son of zeus
this game is different from the mythos in a lot of stuff
slim geyser
not always actually
slim geyser
dont mean to bash your ships or anything but i just wanted to mention it
tired karma
I don't care much about ships but using mythos is silly since the game goes against them
chrome heath
Not against you Abigail don't worry
chrome heath
I don't care much about ships but using mythos is silly since the game goes agai...
No, actually
sour fog
in some instances it does, they have changed stuff but not drastically
chrome heath
It was more a sigh of this conversation shows up regularly xD
slim geyser
theres a couple of really excellent videos on hades and the mythos actually
ill grab them bc theyre really interesting
chrome heath
The hilarious part is that, if with Zag theres little and contradictory information, with Mel we have EVEN LESS
slim geyser
The Big Oneā¢ļø https://youtu.be/2y4aGe0Y-K0
super fun ranking video https://youtu.be/s6oB2vyLudY
tired karma
She also says if he ever makes it to Olympus, she'll probably ignore him like th...
and then she invites him to hunt together
https://i.redd.it/z027p4k7r4o51.jpg
even being like a shy flustered girl around him
https://external-preview.redd.it/v0_criRJvKfz2VDyhBjOzeFEgbATju6XA8mfmC4LwjM.jpg?auto=webp&s=df39e6b682987fc45554517d6601058b8d9545c2
chrome heath
I didn't know i was flirting with all of my friends when i invite them over
chrome heath
Ok ok
lone sable
What are your guys's favourite interactions with other chars?
tired karma
Even Zeus tried to set her up with Zag
and there were plenty of moments when she shown interest
she's either straight or bi in this game
lone sable
For me its when you talk to dusa about her relatives then zag asks if he can keep slashing at them and she says "yeah sure thanks for asking"
chrome heath
For me its when you talk to dusa about her relatives then zag asks if he can kee...
That one was so awkward for me omg
Deka i swear i will block you
lone sable
"Hey can i keep killing your relatives?"
"Yeah"
tired karma
What are your guys's favourite interactions with other chars?
Alecto, she makes me laugh
slim geyser
I just loved being the relationship therapist between orpheus and eurydice haha
i will die for them!
lone sable
Alecto, she makes me laugh
I meant like specific pieces of dialogue
chrome heath
I just loved being the relationship therapist between orpheus and eurydice haha
It was skelly
slim geyser
orpheus puts eyeshadow on and cries a specific amount of tears each day to get it like That
tired karma
Well, all of her dialogue is trash talking zag
lone sable
Ah autobot
tired karma
Deka i swear i will block you
I don't care about you, go ahead
lone sable
Lemme rephraze
tired karma
you are a weird hypocrite in my book anyway
lone sable
I also like how in the true ending persephone sees cerberus and hades and ignores the hell out of hades
At least for the first few lines
slim geyser
its very funny
lone sable
"Here's my husban-OH HELLO DOGGIE"
high island
Even Zeus tried to set her up with Zag
and there were plenty of moments when she...
lmao
People tried to set me up with guys a number of times, still no interest in men whatsoever.
tired karma
would be funny if there were random moments in the styx when Cerberus actually decides to fight back (the sack is rotten or something)
and then he summons all of the enemies from all rooms at the same time and fights you together with them
tired karma
People tried to set me up with guys a number of times, still no interest in men ...
Good for you but you are not Artemis
high island
I am telling you your conclusion is very far-fetched lol.
lone sable
would be funny if there were random moments in the styx when Cerberus actually d...
Ngl i feel that it would be funny if you could hit cerberus a couple of times to fight him instead of giving the sack
high island
Nothing wrong with interpreting it that way if you like, but it's not a fact.
tired karma
from their dialogue you clearly see she shows interest
I don't know why some of you pushing her being lesbian so hard when the game clearly goes against that
it's okay to be straight or bisexual and a lot of characters in this game are bisexual (especially the Gods)
high island
Bodied by Dyno.
lone sable
Keep forgetting about the autobot
high island
from their dialogue you clearly see she shows interest
I don't know why some of ...
No, you see that; but the premises don't support your conclusion as a fact. It's one possible interpretation.
chrome heath
I fluster out of being shy and socially awkward, like, no interest involved
raw herald
wats goin on ova here
slim geyser
discussion over artemis and zag but i think we should move on
oh i also really like all the hypnos dialouge knowing full well he physically cannot be sarcastic
high island
People trying to make the goddess of chastity have a child with Zagreus again.
lone sable
One quick question: are theese discussions common in here?
I joined yesterday and dont wanna have a repeat of the undertale comunity experience
high island
I wouldn't say common at all, but it pops up every so often if you've been here for awhile lol.
slim geyser
Yeah
slim geyser
tbh the hades community is one of my favorites as fandoms go
especially the speedrunning side
high island
SGG are good community leaders.
chrome heath
also what characters did yall first form a bond with?
Charon
Out of always going shop xD
slim geyser
Lmao fair
high island
I had formed a bond with Lady Aphrodite before I ever even started playing the game, naturally. 
native blade
also what characters did yall first form a bond with?
Artie, literally from the moment I met her I was like: This is the one.
lone sable
For me hermes
native blade
I had formed a bond with Lady Aphrodite before I ever even started playing the g...
Lel.
slim geyser
mine was eury
high island
You couldn't actually form a bond with anyone in the game when I started to play lol.
native blade
mine was eury
Ayo, I get it she's such a character
chrome heath
I really love the little portraits they get after bonding
solar vault
I didn't get to the olympians beyond keepsake after basically finishing max bonds with everyone else
lone sable
Wait with bond dont you just mean giving one nectar? Sry im just a dumbass
native blade
I didn't get to the olympians beyond keepsake after basically finishing max bond...
Lel.
native blade
took me a while for hermes actually
I had such good rng first save.
slim geyser
but we mean the little icon you get on keepsakes after maxing out nectar
native blade
Finished most of my Cabinet before my 10th win
high island
"Dumbass" isn't a problem in chat.
lone sable
Yeah mb keep forgetting this is a child friendly server
solar vault
I assume the bot would get rid of it if it was
slim geyser
yea true
slim geyser
Yeah mb keep forgetting this is a child friendly server
lmao dw i swear like a sailor so it took me a while to get used to
lone sable
alr got autobot'd twice
solar vault
right sometimes I have to begrudgingly reword my sentence without swears in it
lone sable
Generally when i swear its just something minor like the f word or "oh crap"
(Except crap replaced with the not ok one)
lone sable
The only times my swears are offensive are when the're offensive towards myself
slim geyser
my friends and i say "f you" a lot but mostly jokingly
high island
There, you can use that.
slim geyser
(entirely jokingly lmao)
lone sable
The only times my swears are offensive are when the're offensive towards myself
Unless someone pissed me off real hard
chrome heath
The only times my swears are offensive are when the're offensive towards myself
Oof, I've gotten into trouble for that
...has Hypnos ever been angry at all?
slim geyser
not really
lone sable
How the hell did i beat charon in my first attempt but then got my butt handed over the next try
(Both tries were in tartarus)
slim geyser
your build and rng probably
lone sable
The fight took ages the first time as well
In fact the 2nd try felt faster yet i died before even the 3rd phase
Its funny how he does more dmg than hades tho
Ig average shopkeeper in games
high island
Maybe overconfident because your damage was better.
lone sable
My overconfidence came from the fact that this time i'll likely know how to dodge better
I didnt
lone sable
Btw i tried the heat thing that makes the first boss be buffed
Was the help from alecto and tisiphone just the lines of circles?
Cause if so that's free heat gauge
chrome heath
Yep
high island
They have various attacks like that as supports, yeah.
high island
I think each of them has 2-3 attacks and picks one of them at random for the duration of each boss phase.
lone sable
Ngl when i saw all 3 in the room i tought i'd be fighting all 3 at once
Esp cause i had more dmg than i usually do so i tought meg's hp was lowered a bunch and that i'd be fighting them in order
high island
They have 1 or 2 Furies as support, which gives you 9 variations.
Whereas if you fought all three, that's one variation.
lone sable
Yeah thats true
Im more used to roguelikes where the first boss is always the same so this is a nice change of pace
lets not talk about the ammount of variations hydra has
chrome heath
Would be awesome to fight all 3, a la champions of Elysium
native blade
last mauve
Lol
old dawn
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1064732967383093289/1065977085237153853...
LMAO
inb4 it's icarus
native blade
Pfft
rustic vale
inb4 it's icarus
Icarus salty about the death that he himself brought upon him
tired karma
daedalus is the scariest of them all
imagine fighting a boss that has all of your weapons with all of his hammers
except the crappy ones
toxic trellis
Or, he has a gimmick halfway through the fight, where he swaps your hammers for the worst ones, just messing up your build, and he takes the better ones. Only way youād get your original upgrades back is by beating him
tired karma
or it's his last laugh, you will not get your original upgrades
imagine u get clockets and he just takes it away to spam them against u
and u get 2 super useless hammers
lone sable
What stops him from just taking away your weapon
fervent jewel
i would defeat him with casts and my divine dash!
warm nimbus
especially the speedrunning side
hades speedrunning community is literally so awesome
pastel monolith
i need ideas of a new hades goal. i just got 32 heat with each aspect, i just did my first 40 heat win.. im kinda getting sick of heat lol
i wana do more speedrunning but i find it frustrating bc i have no mods on xbox.. and also that would require some homework and looking at guides... any other ideas of a new challenge i can make for myself?
chrome heath
i need ideas of a new hades goal. i just got 32 heat with each aspect, i just d...
Inspiring
pastel monolith
i wana do a 40 heat with each weapon maybe, or get sub 10 igt with each weapon.. but im trying to think outside the box and come upnwith somethin more creative
chrome heath
Boonless?
pastel monolith
ive tried no hit runs.. i almost did onr but i usualy get hit in styx
i did boonless once that was fun, ill try that again
i definitely need to practice em4 and also get used to more used to forced overtime 2
chrome heath
There are weekly randomized challenges for 32 heat
grave sage
Wait
chrome heath
Reddit last i checked
pastel monolith
lol whaat
chrome heath
I didn't know that big existed XD
warm nimbus
i need ideas of a new hades goal. i just got 32 heat with each aspect, i just d...
could try even higher heats, on the speedrunning side its not too intensive in terms of guides and stuff
since theres no routes to learn and stuff
and no glitches either
thorny mirage
The only routes for speedrunning is if you do routed runs
warm nimbus
ye
thorny mirage
With speedrunning the main thing is mindset I guess
If itās IGT get used to pausing for room choices/boons
If itās real time I believe you put on tight deadline
To not allow survival rooms
high island
i need ideas of a new hades goal. i just got 32 heat with each aspect, i just d...
I've picked up the Hades Monthly Challenges again, with help from sapphicsirens. Our latest challenge is pinned in #h1-builds-and-combat. 
warm nimbus
yeah
more people run igt than rta, its very stress free
you just need to know the build that youre going for and how to kill stuff fast
thorny mirage
They mean glitches you need to activate in other games
Like thereās no āleft right cast specialā input on tuesdays with a shimmy to skip 15 rooms
warm nimbus
i mean the problems with beo are just that the numbers are wrong for a ton of stuff
warm nimbus
Like thereās no āleft right cast specialā input on tuesdays with a shimmy to ski...
yeah exactly
hades has like literally no bugs
or glitches or whatever
thorny mirage
And the bugs we do have are features now!
warm nimbus
double mirage 
toxic trellis
Iāve ran into only one bug/glitch in my almost two years with this game
thorny mirage
Iāve had the wrong god keepsake bug
warm nimbus
Iāve had the wrong god keepsake bug
?
thorny mirage
Where I have the keepsake still active and I just get another god with no other option
it was really weord
warm nimbus
that happens when the god on your keepsake is on an erebus gate
toxic trellis
I was fighting Asterius as a mini-boss, and close to the end of the battle I sort of cornered him against the wall, and after I got him down 3/4 of his health, the bell rung. Except he just stood there for a solid five seconds. Then, he just walked through the wall.
toxic trellis
Wish I couldāve thought to record that, but it was so sudden and I was laughing my ass off
Oh, I can say ass, thatās good
high island
What's especially funny is when he dies from DOT on his way out.
thorny mirage
I always find it funny when that happens
glossy coral
I was fighting Asterius as a mini-boss, and close to the end of the battle I sor...
Hey look, a new speed run strategy!
toxic trellis
Nah, forcing a boss to sit there is more of a time sink than anything /j
pastel monolith
I've picked up the Hades Monthly Challenges again, with help from sapphicsirens....
thanks, ya thats perfect i totally forgot about the monthly challenges.. im definitely gona start doin those
i couldnt believe how good my guan yu 32 heat run went. i usualy hate it but i got the hammers that makes ur spin charge faster and go for longer and i just spammed it all day and it was honestly like the easiest run ever
i didnt even get a very good attack boon, i had poseidan.. also i had support fire which seemed to actually be pretty useful
high island
Tempest Strike spin builds can be really good.
Just like... nothing can touch you lol.
pastel monolith
ya i had full health the entire run lol
pastel monolith
ikr??
glossy coral
ya i had full health the entire run lol
Dang, if you didn't take any damage the whole time and if you had on thanatos's keepsake, you would've been deadly.
thorny mirage
I thought those words were antonyms
thorny mirage
Dang, if you didn't take any damage the whole time and if you had on thanatos's ...
Eh
Thatās like
pastel monolith
i took some damage but i always healed immediately
thorny mirage
brb
glossy coral
support fire? Useful?
Bruh, if it weren't for divine dash, I would say support fire is the most op boon
thorny mirage
Not a lot of damage
thorny mirage
Bruh, if it weren't for divine dash, I would say support fire is the most op boo...
so what are you having? Cocaine? meth? LSD?
cuz youāre mad high for calling support fire an OP boon lmao
pastel monolith
i think thanatos keepsake is overrated.. even if i do it like perfectly its like 30 to 40% more damage by the end.. which is great and all but not so great to make up for not being able to swap keepsake and having to play very weirdly and safely
thorny mirage
It is
thorny mirage
yeah
pastel monolith
it worked well with rhe guan yu spin move, i imagine it would also work well with zeus shield special
or maybe rama special
thorny mirage
Even with that the damage increase is super negligible
high island
It's not neglible.
pastel monolith
for cast it goes as soon as u cast whether it hits anything or not
is it just me or does the basic gun attack always suck outside of like tartarus
thorny mirage
I mean if you put nothing on it and it isnāt hestia sure
thorny mirage
if you put zeus/dio/idk even ares on it it seems pretty good
high island
i know zeus is good on it
You'll want Static Discharge and some poms on that for scaling.
pastel monolith
but its never felt very poweful tonme no matter what
high island
Lightning Strike on its own is kinda weak there.
thorny mirage
Yeah