h1-discussion

[native blade]

Yuh

[silver mica]

I like

Lucifer + Deadly strike

[rustic vale]

bruh what was this

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/1008936835550035988/IMG_2074.jpg?width=1009&height=644

I just found this looking back

[native blade]

A Splitting Headache obv.

[high island]

Phone shape reveal.

[native blade]

4head

[rustic vale]

I now turn off the lights in my room before taking photos

[tall trench]

switch player?

[rustic vale]

switch player

[tall trench]

yeah getting screenshots off my switch is too much work

[rustic vale]

shackle definitely mattered here: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/1006383947728560189/IMG_2043.jpg?width=1105&height=644

[high island]

If this was like CSI or NCIS, they'd have a perfect 4k photo of your face within like 5 seconds after randomly typing something on their keyboard.

[silver mica]

Tidal Dash my love

[rustic vale]

holy additive https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/1005634674514722919/IMG_2032.jpg?width=1093&height=644

[tall trench]

you can cut that estimate in half if you have someone else helping you type

[rustic vale]

I'd be surprised if there was a 4k image of me anywhere online

[high island]

True.

[rustic vale]

like

I've seen at least 5 or 6 runs at this point with drunken dash

what kind of menace was I

[high island]

Drunken Dash can be alright.

[rustic vale]

lmfao

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/1005498087466336266/IMG_2030.jpg?width=1061&height=644

[rustic vale]

I mean 100% of my poms are going on it so the damage isn't bad

[high island]

Maybe you should do Drunken Dash start for your 40s, you seem to have experience with it.

[tall trench]

man maybe I should just stick at 32 heat for a while and practice that. 40 heat wins feel good but i wanna try wackier stuff out and I don't feel comfortable enough to do anything except what I know there

[high island]

Drunken Dash and no Bad Influence makes me sad lol.

[silver mica]

I've never used it

[high island]

Why not just do whatever you feel like at the moment, that's what I do lol.

[silver mica]

I always go tidal or divine

[high island]

Well, those two are generally better.

[tall trench]

tidal, divine, hunter 🙏

the trinity

[native blade]

Facts

[high island]

But on like Excalibur for example, Tidal Dash kinda sucks because it tends to knock enemies out of your attack range.

[rustic vale]

bruh my very first run that I posted the victory screen for was wacky

[high island]

Drunken Dash meanwhile can help Excalibur build god gauge.

[silver mica]

Sometimes I use mistal dash

[native blade]

Yeah, same for when u try Lambent Plume

[silver mica]

Mistral*

[rustic vale]

what a run
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/982500575017066537/IMG_1679.jpg?width=859&height=644

[high island]

What does Lambent Plume have to do with it? m confused lol.

[native blade]

Holy Quaternary?

[tall trench]

never considered drunken dash for quicker god gauge
it fills faster with rapid hits iirc

[native blade]

Long story short, it sucks with Plume.

[high island]

Yeah, but the damage is low, so it doesn't build that fast. Not worth going for just for god gauge normally, but you take what you can get sometimes.

[rustic vale]

I don't consider drunken dash for quicker god gauge because I use dionysus aid for quicker god gauge 💪

[tall trench]

yeah I get what you mean

[high island]

Nah, Excalibur with Lambent Plume is pretty great tbh.

Lots of eHP.

Tanky.

Takes practice to clear rooms fast enough, admittedly.

[silver mica]

I think a couple days ago I was doing a run

[tall trench]

I am still struggling with under-utilizing calls. I get that they have iframes but like if I'm thinking that far in advance I'll just dash hit the dash button, not realizing I'm out of dashes, and eat the damage

[high island]

But it can be pretty good.

[silver mica]

I was just farming coins to buy titan blood bc that was my luck

[high island]

Just do a bunch of Smair runs lol.

[silver mica]

I had lightning rod

[rustic vale]

I have far too much experience with drunken dash, it must've began in the early days
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/988959072973914112/IMG_1801.jpg?width=859&height=644

[silver mica]

And I sold it

[high island]

Also, if you want to get more comfortable at 40 Heat, do 45+ or something for practice for awhile.

[silver mica]

Then I got it again before I left elysium so I sold it again after beating theseus

And then I bought blood :D

[tall trench]

the early days of anyone playing hades are the best
defending the goofiest boons because they came in clutch

[high island]

Looks like your name is a lie.

[flat bloom]

time to change it

[high island]

My early clears were all Shatter Shot. Which was amazing. Never did a bad build in my life.

[silver mica]

Shatter shot?

[native blade]

I meant… Tidal Dash…

[high island]

You're confusing me even more now.

Tidal Dash + Lambent Plume is bad?

I don't get the connection.

[high island]

Shatter Shot was an earlier version of Crush Shot.

[rustic vale]

wdym

[high island]

5 hits instead of 1, better damage and scaling, and the range and AOE was basically what Blown Kiss is now.

5 hits meant it worked super well with Unhealthy Fixation.

[native blade]

It always messes up my timing when I use it.

[high island]

55% chance to Charm per Cast. 91% if you did all three like on a boss.

[silver mica]

I see

[rustic vale]

checking my drunken dash stats rn

[high island]

Whereas Crush Shot now, being only 1 hit, only has a 15% chance to Charm per Cast.

[rustic vale]

eh

I don't have that many drunken dash uses

23 times used, 14 clears

how is ferocious guard my most picked hammer

[tall trench]

its a safe beo pick I guess but still lol

[rustic vale]

hyper sprint it my most used boon by a mile , 53 more uses then static discharge lmfao

I have both most clears and most uses with zag rail of all aspects

[tall trench]

I feel really unsafe without hyper sprint or greater reflex
had a great 40 heat fist run last night but asterius just kept doing the bull rush and he fast

[silver mica]

Charged shot :)

[rustic vale]

I

haven't cleared with distant memory yet

https://tenor.com/view/phineas-and-ferb-phineas-i-know-what-were-going-to-do-today-gif-15622268

so uh

distant memory full run on 40 heat sounds promising

shop into sisyphus

I was just thinking I’d force aphrodite in but then remembered the point of the run is distant memory full run

[hushed cobalt]

whee i beat hades for me first time

[native blade]

https://tenor.com/view/little-giants-muscles-flex-body-gif-8495707

[rustic vale]

That makes one of us now: #h1-victory-boasting message

[high island]

You have in spirit, since it doesn't do anything.

[rustic vale]

I have… actually now

I decided to start a run with it

[high island]

Distant Memory Twin Shot.

Ah yes.

Perfect synergy.

[rustic vale]

I mean

I basically just played keepsakeless

But now it says I have on my stats so I take that

Distant memory: 4 times used, 1 clear, best heat: 32

[rustic vale]

40 heat drunken dash start nem sword here I come

I made it out of tart somehow

[high island]

Nemesis for your first 40 Heat clear is confident, at least.

[rustic vale]

I'm memeing anyways because drunken dash start

surprised I got this far tbh

[remote hawk]

hiiii can we spoil in tyhis cxhannel ? it seems that yes if i well udnerstand but keep asking xd

[rustic vale]

yep

spoilers are fine outside of #h1-for-new-players

[remote hawk]

okay thx

so i have a question

im trying to get the second end and many gods are blocked like i cant give them the 7 netctar did i have a specific thing to do to unlock them ? i tired to complete their list of boons to have but it seems to dont be that can someone pls help me xd

[rustic vale]

to unlock an npc's locked heart you have to complete that npc's specific favour, if you want details for specific gods then check their pages on the Hades Wiki

[remote hawk]

hoooooo okay thx !!!!!

you save me

[mint hatch]

I'm going for ME on zeus shield and unsure if it's best to put doom on the attack or special

I feel like you can argue for either

[rustic vale]

I think there is an arguement for either side

Curse of pain is more damage

Curse of agony will still pop off with divine dash if your shield gets away from you

[rustic vale]

somehow have made it past lernie with a... lower then ideal amount of time left

[stone rune]

than*

is purple move speed a cope pick on hermes

[rustic vale]

what are your other options

died to a trap in ely

[stone rune]

grey flurry cast and evasion

[rustic vale]

I'd take the movespeed

[gray apex]

It’s not the ideal pick but it’s great still

Especially if it’s the first Hermes

[stone rune]

yeah first

[gray apex]

You can get rd and it scales with ichors if you get lucky

[rustic vale]

and who knows

you might 3rd hermes hyper sprint or second wind

[stone rune]

purple rare crop

we stay winning

[carmine wraith]

bruh wtf

You can fish whilst you're in lava in asphodel?

[stone rune]

trolling

[carmine wraith]

just lost a DD because I was locked into the fishing animation

[stone rune]

god i love the white witch rooms

YES PATTY

patty chamber 33 with 2sack lasts to dad right

it's encounters

[tall trench]

when i tried to fish in lava, it immediately canceled fishing (though it did start the animation)

[stone rune]

i think this lasts to dad

[rustic vale]

you can't btw

[stone rune]

i have HEALTH AGAIN

[rustic vale]

it's literally impossible to fish in lava in asphodel

[stone rune]

uh

[rustic vale]

[stone rune]

do i roll athena for dd

[rustic vale]

are you currently missing a dd

sd*

[stone rune]

uh

it's a shop

[rustic vale]

dmfs

you get a dd if you lose an sd then get the boon

[stone rune]

oh

but if you have your sd then it won't give you?

[rustic vale]

yeah you'll just get the passive

[stone rune]

nooooo

tragifc

[gray apex]

It’s a shop so you couldnt do anything about it regardless

Unless you have Hazard Bomb

[stone rune]

with hazard bomb

wouldnt that like

bring me over time

[rustic vale]

isn't hazard bomb like chaos curses

[stone rune]

to keep hitting myself

[rustic vale]

where you can't kill yourself with it

[stone rune]

doing like 3 damage

you can't kill yourself with chaos curses????

[gray apex]

No you can

[rustic vale]

yeah you just hit 1 hp from chaos curse

[gray apex]

It can depending on how much hp you have to burn through

[silver mica]

You don't go below 1hp even with defiance

[stone rune]

225 hp

[gray apex]

But it scales with your special boon

So it can do like 8

And it can crit

[rustic vale]

it does like 1% of your special damage

[gray apex]

If you have Arty

[rustic vale]

so I've heard of people taking like 22 damage from it with arte on special

[silver mica]

Idk i just mentioned it for the sake of mentioning it

[gray apex]

I don’t think so

[stone rune]

asterius down

[silver mica]

Shared suffering v2 lmao

[stone rune]

we in styx

we at dad

[solar vault]

I should try EM4 again

[stone rune]

40 done

[solar vault]

I did it barely the last two times

[stone rune]

didnt even get potted

why does zag just

stick his foot in candles

like i get he's probably used to asphodel

but it can't be pleasant

[rustic vale]

His feet are always on fire

He’s used to it

[tall trench]

fire resistant not fire proof

[stone rune]

i mean

[rustic vale]

Fire proof but not magma proof

[stone rune]

just because he can STAND asphodel

doesn't mean it's all well and good to stick his feet in the flame when he needn't

[tall trench]

its like heated flooring maybe

fancy

[native blade]

True but it’s like warm water boiling water

One’s comfi, one ain’t.

[gray apex]

Do 50 go

[stone rune]

sure

but first to do a nice comfortable 32 run and hopefully see the newlyweds in elysium

[gray apex]

You can do a warmup 45 instead

[stone rune]

well if i was doing a warmup i'd rather 128

45 is a bit light

[gray apex]

That is fair

[hardy spear]

good luck i still havent done 50

resetting for an attack boon took years off my lifespan

[gray apex]

Shackle

Or different weapom

[stone rune]

i think the first chamber should have asphodel lava

just in case

[rustic vale]

?

first chamber of where

[gray apex]

Like c1

So you can reset

[stone rune]

and you can turn on hs at will

[rustic vale]

Just start a new save file to get a new seed instead

[stone rune]

real

[fervent jewel]

damn lost with chiron first time in a while but i still completed a run

starting to solve parental and marital issues around the house

[whole tartan]

Do I take ruthless reflex to if I’m going for doge builds with fists?

[rustic vale]

yes

[native blade]

Ye.

[plucky sierra]

Do i need to use a weapon to get its hidden aspect

like if i already got the first dialogue

[brisk trail]

https://prnt.sc/2qFq83bBG2LV I like how I have all these good boons up here, and then I also have bronze skin

[latent moon]

based bronze skin

[oak oriole]

yo guys

yo

question

so im truna get aspect of beuowolf but i need guan yu first i can just unlock 5 random aspects that all cost 1 titan blood for that right

[latent moon]

yes

[rustic vale]

You need 5 non-zagreus aspects

[oak oriole]

ye

ik

it siint upgrading tho

so i should just go unlock the cheapest aspects correct

[rustic vale]

I’m pretty sure zag aspects are the only ones that costs 1 titans blood though

Am I remembering wrong?

[oak oriole]

na

[rustic vale]

No

[latent moon]

the first one right under them cost 1

to unlock iirc

[rustic vale]

Chaos and talos aren’t worth it tbh

[oak oriole]

yeah im just going for bueowolf tho

[rustic vale]

Specifically for beowulf

[oak oriole]

yes

its the best aspect for shield

[rustic vale]

That’s a rather narrowminded way to look at the game

[oak oriole]

💀 breh

[rustic vale]

Even then

I would get zeus shield over chaos

[latent moon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839538570738139146/1064354217369808946/image.png?width=1191&height=670
got me curious to look at mine, and look at the greater haste cope lmao

also rd to hs ratio is almost 1:2 lmao

[rustic vale]

you need 5 titans blood in shield aspects anyways for beo and zeus is just better so the upfront cost doesn’t matter

[latent moon]

one could argue beo is the best in the game lmao

[rustic vale]

one could argue that
Just like on could argue talos is best aspect

[latent moon]

routed moment

[brisk trail]

that's a lotta RD though, good stuff :D

[oak oriole]

ok so like i just spent all me titan blood on stuff

now do i just give nectar to achilies

and pray

[brisk trail]

tbh i dont even think you need to give nectar to achilles (you should anyway though!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) but yeah its RNG dialogue time if you're after Guan-yu

[oak oriole]

na i think u do

need 4 hearts

[brisk trail]

o you do? okay I believe you

idk

But I also know it requires having 5 weapons unlocked, which I'm sure you do

[oak oriole]

ye

i got 5 aspects

now ima just gift and reset and gift and reset

to get guan yu

and then use shield and go to chaos and cry to him until he gives me what i want

also

for beuowolf i dont needa only put into shield right

cuz now im not sure

if i needa invest another 3 more titan into the shield

[brisk trail]

you need 5 titans blood invested in shield to get the hidden aspect

[oak oriole]

oh

i have 2 invested rn

and 4 more invested into other aspects

for random stuff

should i now just tryna get achilies to give me the thing

then get 3 more titan and put into shield

also do they needa be non zag for beuowolf

[brisk trail]

[OlympusExtra] I like how the Apollo + Artemis duo turns Apollo's call into channeling phase 2 Hades lol

https://imgur.com/a/9r1iIjS

[oak oriole]

??

[brisk trail]

i dont think so, the pinned post in #h1-story-discussion on how to unlock the hidden aspects say any

yea everything I know is from this post #h1-story-discussion message and it worked out for me

[oak oriole]

then if im right i should unlock both shield aspects, 3 other random 1 titan aspects

then get guan yu

and after than get 1 more titan and put that into the zag

buff

and then i should unlock bueowolf?

[brisk trail]

once you meet the titan blood requirement its just gonna be swinging by chaos enough times to trigger the dialogue ye

[oak oriole]

ye

but this is the optimal blood placement for beuowolf?

[rustic vale]

Non-zag is for gy

[oak oriole]

k

[latent moon]

it doesn't matter where your titan blood is as long as it meets the prereqs tbh

since you want beowulf

if you want to get the good aspects, then that's a different story

[latent moon]

this is my second save lmao idek what my other save looks like

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/839538570738139146/1064362213340610740/image.png?width=1191&height=670
bruh ddash lmao

[brisk trail]

ddash good boon tho

but yeah that's mad ddashing

[latent moon]

yeah but i used to start with it all the time

[brisk trail]

we all have/had a crutch. For me it was cerberus collar, I can't explain it, but despite it being one of the worse defensive keepsakes, I just instinctively took it (for every biome) all the time because I felt I needed literally all the health I can get

then I learned the magic of actually planning your build with god keepsakes

good stuff

[rustic vale]

I have more then double your hs takes lol

[fervent jewel]

aw man nectar everywhere

everyone is getting drunk in the house of hades

[solar vault]

picked up curse of drowning on beowulf bc I was curious how it'd work

it sucks lol

[raw herald]

Yep

[silk scarab]

I'm not sure what it is, but mobs keep dropping me a lot of sandwiches when I kill them. I'm not sure what it is, I have a few mods installed and I read through them on Nexus and I can't find anything on it

[solar vault]

Sounds like Eye of Lamia, a well item you bought?

(Also if you look closely it's a taco and fries)

[rustic vale]

Or a keepsake

Wait

No featherduster is pots

Now go 100% the game

No

I mean

The full game

That’s what 100% means

Do everything and max everything

[solar vault]

get unseen one

[high island]

Done.

What's next?

[rustic vale]

64 heat

[fervent jewel]

i still love zeus's technique

incinerating the mobs with divine wrath

[brisk trail]

alright yall high heat here we go

hit me with the meta

[native blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755677197670285312/1064414363823394837/image.png

For some reason my game glitched and my aspect changed from Gilga to Zag when I got to Asphodel lol.

[rich horizon]

I can't tell if hades is more or less enjoyable with music on and it's confusing me

[brisk trail]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/764541705403760700/1064418546198782012/image.png

[polar marsh]

The hades piece is reeeeeeeeal

[native blade]

Can it get much higher?

https://youtu.be/gWo12TtN9Kk

[jaunty sonnet]

morning

[native blade]

Morn

[jaunty sonnet]

hows the how

[restive turtle]

eh yo, this channel is finally open let's go

oh wait

wrong server even

lol

hi

https://tenor.com/view/lost-confused-dog-smiling-smile-doggo-gif-16610995

[native blade]

Yo

[native blade]

Pretty gud

[solar vault]

Question out of curiosity

Does anyone know how boon purge prices are calculated?

[unreal oracle]

Lol the game decided

Your fate is to use the aspect of zag

[native blade]

Quick Life, Quick Death.

[old dawn]

idk but rarity seems to have a much bigger impact than amount of poms

both do influence it tho

[olive verge]

after 120 hours i have all the portraits on keepsakes now

[native blade]

Ye, I’m grinding them now.

Hold on.

[olive verge]

gl

[jaunty sonnet]

cerby is my favourite 100%

[silver mica]

||Dusa W for refunding all the gifts I gave her||

[native blade]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1031568485857370113/1033696386702651392/unknown.png

Old save

[native blade]

Facts.

[jaunty sonnet]

Didn't hades also do that?

woah déja vu

[olive verge]

based

[native blade]

Indeed.

[silver mica]

Friend for all eternity

[olive verge]

||i already forgot did i pick the refund option tbh||

[silver mica]

[silver mica]

I did bc it was the first bond I got

So i needed the refund

[olive verge]

mine is probably eurydice tbh

[jaunty sonnet]

fair enough, cerberus or arty for me

[olive verge]

arty is cute too

hermes is smug and that actually suits him very well

[silver mica]

I like Hermes' one

[jaunty sonnet]

...do we care more about the portraits than the actual keepsakes

[olive verge]

yes

[jaunty sonnet]

agreed

[olive verge]

my man

[jaunty sonnet]

you know i thought the resource director was going to be hella expensive

[silver mica]

I like Charon's

Its cute

[olive verge]

fr

actually what npc do you like the most in hades

mine is probably achilles tbh, his character is just so great

[jaunty sonnet]

do the group of shades that tell you how they died count?

[silver mica]

Achilles or Nyx

[olive verge]

we will count that as well

[silver mica]

Actually nah

[jaunty sonnet]

then the group of shades

[silver mica]

My main dude Primordial Chaos

[olive verge]

based too

[jaunty sonnet]

chaos is pretty cool

[silver mica]

"Take my egg when you fight your dad. It won't help but it's gonna be funny as hell."

[native blade]

Dice is nice but Miss Dusa reigns supreme.

[jaunty sonnet]

I did it the very next run

[native blade]

Arty was my first ngl.

[olive verge]

same lmao

[native blade]

I got my first bond for her.

[jaunty sonnet]

same

[silver mica]

My first was Dusa

Somehow

[jaunty sonnet]

mainly because i was using nemesis as my first aspect so

but also because its arty

[silver mica]

I had so much spare ambrosia and just spent it all on the floating W

[native blade]

I was just simping lol.

[jaunty sonnet]

...same

[olive verge]

hurts you when you're entering his realm
says "it was all predetermined" and shuts zagreus up
offers boon that screws you over for three fights before actually helping
refuses to elaborate further
leaves

[native blade]

The Chadly Chaos

[olive verge]

the chadly chaos fr

[jaunty sonnet]

gigachadbeingfromthestartoftime

[silver mica]

offers boon that screws you over for three fights before actually helping*

[olive verge]

corrected thanks

[silver mica]

I had to fight

EM3 Theseus with only my special

Because I thought I had one more encounter chamber left

I did not.

[native blade]

Factually tho, I thought it made it more likely to appear and then I literally didn’t see it the whole territory.

[silver mica]

I was using gilgamesh

[jaunty sonnet]

i fought em3 theseus with thunder dash on gilgamesh lol

it was fun

I lost two death defiances

[olive verge]

i don't really remember any of my fun builds

[native blade]

Gilga, My Beloved.

[silver mica]

I won the fight but it took all my defiance and I died to Hades lmao

[native blade]

Ever tried Zagfist Plume Gaming?

[jaunty sonnet]

i got lucky and got dds back in styx

[olive verge]

i cleared my first 16 heat and em4 hades with that

[native blade]

Same lol.

[silver mica]

Nah, only with talos

[olive verge]

just to open the skelly statue

and earn the achievement

[jaunty sonnet]

My first 16 heat em4 was beowulf i think, not the most impressive

[native blade]

Talos is rly fun too.

Specially with Uncle Pos

[olive verge]

i'm learning now to complete every boss with em

always doing em4 on each run

"having fun"

[native blade]

Took me heat 16 to get perma em4 and only on zagfists too.

[slim geyser]

mine was eury

[stone rune]

say eury out loud

[native blade]

Noice.

[stone rune]

I think I'm at the peak of the dunning Kruger curve

I need to be humbled

I'm not even good I just need to die

[native blade]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/10dam8l/give_me_a_challenge/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[native blade]

I’ma show u the true Dunning Kruger effect soon.

[native blade]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/10dbhqu/path_of_gloryfolly_of_the_fool/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

This is what it's like when u think u're hot

[brazen aspen]

So Thanatos is in love with Zagreus?

He seems to be desperately convincing him to not leave but not a boss fight

[native blade]

Yep.

[brazen aspen]

also he seems to be much harder to romance than Meg for some reason

got to do a whole sequence of stuff

[silent willow]

Forward facing thanatos is cursed, god

[wanton spire]

which one is better to get first?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1045985210740781107/1064514082474033173/Hades_35.png

[native blade]

Ad Privilege

[native blade]

Eh?

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1064519041374507038/image0.jpg

Just gotta love peeps who take this game way too seriously.

[stray grail]

/r/gatekeeping ?

[native blade]

Lel, nah.

[native blade]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1064519993129185331/image.png

Just killed em with kindness.

[stray grail]

/r/caringlyputdownbywords (is that a thing?)

[stray grail]

why ad privilege? Does that room have some functionality I don't know about?

for story, sure! for gameplay changes, not sure?

[native blade]

Yep.

[native blade]

For story.

A lot of story btw.

[stray grail]

maybe I don't go there too much often enough? Or is it like a milestone for the entire story to progress?

[native blade]

Milestone.

Daily Reminder to never offend Grandmother.

Sigh...

[silver mica]

Grandmother, Uncle Poseidon and Aphrodite

[pastel monolith]

only 5 aspects left to go for my goal of 32 heat each aspect

[silver mica]

Threw a fair few runs bc of them

[pastel monolith]

anyone have tips for lucifer build? i always tend to suck with lucifer

[silver mica]

I use Artemis attack

[pastel monolith]

interesting, i usualy go for her special and hope i get the triple special hammer

[silver mica]

And hope for concentrated beam (beam? Fire?) As a daedelus hammer

I don't use lucifer that often bc I suck at using the special correctly

And idk what booms to use for it usually

[gray apex]

Build it the same way you build Eris

Zeus Attack, Artemis/Aphro Special and Tidal Dash

Hope for Triple bomb

Then just get Static Discharge/ Zeus Aid/ Hunter's Mark etc

And Hyper Sprint + Rush Delivery from Hermes ideally

[rustic vale]

Zeus strike is objectively the best kne

Any +% special and triple bomb

[high island]

You can usually just tap your Special button and let auto-aim take care of it.

[rustic vale]

Tidal dash so you can explode the bombs even better

[pastel monolith]

ya sounds about right, thx 😊

[rustic vale]

Building lucifer based around the strikes damage scaling over time with +%’s really just leads to disappointment from what I’ve experienced

[pastel monolith]

i havent tried too many timea yet but lucifer rarely ever feels powerful for me

[high island]

It's not too bad. Your single-target damage will be really good if you have a good % Attack and focus on ramp and Attack damage.

[pastel monolith]

im most worried about guan yu.. i almost had it yesterday i had charged skewer or whatever with artimes special at like level 8 heroic and still doed to hades.. i had bad ads and also nerves lol

[high island]

Just AOE is missing without Smair or something.

[rustic vale]

Lvl 8 on artemis flourish is wasted poms tbh

[high island]

Flourish pom scaling isn't too bad.

[rustic vale]

arte flourish pom scaling?

[high island]

Yes.

[pastel monolith]

ya its tru but i didnt have mulch else goin on in my build either

[high island]

Lv.8 is a bit too much considering opportunity cost.

[pastel monolith]

my strategy was just go all in on special and hope to get health

[high island]

Well, starting Heartbreak Flourish instead would more or less give you a 1.4x multiplier to your health from the start of the run.

And access to Life Affirmation and more damage reduction.

Smair potentially for lots of i-frames.

[rustic vale]

Aphrodite for the big ehp

and big +%

[high island]

In normal encounters, you'll often take damage from enemies that aren't inflicted with Weak yet, but in boss fights you'll reduce the vast majority of incoming damage.

If you use FO0, using your spins to keep your HP capped should also be pretty easy.

Disregarding Touch of Styx Dark, Guan Yu can actually have a lot more HP throughout LC4 runs than other aspects.

[silver mica]

Didn't know auto aim worked for hellfire

[high island]

The other aspects don't go back over 30% unless you pick up Centaur Hearts. Guan Yu can easily go back to HP cap like every chamber.

Max HP might be 50% reduced, but 50% is more than 30%.

[rustic vale]

And that’s why cursed slash is the best sword hammer for high heat /j

[brisk trail]

34 heat is a paaaaiiiiiin

[pastel monolith]

thx for all the tips

[brisk trail]

https://tenor.com/view/real-and-true-lightskin-agreement-gif-25487093

[manic kraken]

TOO CLOSE

went into hades with 0 dds

[native blade]

CLUTCH GOD

[manic kraken]

my true motivation was the overground fishing spot

[native blade]

The only true success.

[manic kraken]

very funny build

[native blade]

Show us

[manic kraken]

in boasting

[silver mica]

It's been so long

Last time I got one I died.

[native blade]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1064585320185741332/image.png

[pastel monolith]

thats exact opposite mirror setup i use lol

exept lately ive fallen in love with stubborn defiance

its so nice to notnworry about replacing dds

but gotta do that athena trick to get extras which is also a bit of a pain but whatev

[native blade]

^

[native blade]

Glad to see you’re at least SD pilled.

[eternal yoke]

stubborn defiance is very good!

Hi, sorry, I'm new.

[wispy hound]

The EM4 hades in question:

[native blade]

Lel.

[eternal yoke]

hsdfghd

[native blade]

One day I’ll show u me beating EM4 with this build.

[eternal yoke]

which weapon do you like best?

[native blade]

Fists, why?

[wispy hound]

Spear

Hades aspect more specifically

[eternal yoke]

Oh just being friendly!

Oh I love the spear

that one's great.

[toxic trellis]

Fists, with Talos

[wispy hound]

Of course, it's objectively the best weapon in the game and anyone who disagrees is wrong and silly in the head

[fervent jewel]

Bow with chiron

[toxic trellis]

Don’t care what anyone here says, it just works for me

[eternal yoke]

hades aspect too

[toxic trellis]

Might try a run with Demeter aspect sometime soon

[eternal yoke]

i do like the sword too tho

hidden aspect sword

[toxic trellis]

Took some getting used to for me, but I’ve had a couple clears with it, just don’t revisit it that often

But it’s got that beeeeg damage

[eternal yoke]

Fair enough! It can be a bit clunky to use

but the hades spear is the best tbh

[fervent jewel]

preferably bow with something like dionysos's special to make the mobs and bosses drunker than a horror video game dad character

cathartic to use zeus's special though especially on these douchebags in elysium

[eternal yoke]

oh yes!!! that one is wonderful

and like, demeter's help

[toxic trellis]

Hera Bow + Dio/Aphro Cast

[eternal yoke]

i love her swirls

also the artemis extra help one

is also good

[fervent jewel]

oh the green arrows? they rock

[eternal yoke]

yeah!!

[toxic trellis]

Support Fire

Top 10 boon

[eternal yoke]

yes thanks i couldnt remember the name!!

[toxic trellis]

It’s one of the few I even know by name

That isn’t a core 5 boon (attack, special, cast, dash, call)

[eternal yoke]

it's just a huge aid

oh im so bad at remembering the names of the boons tbh!

but i have those i just love

so, same!

[high island]

What, you don't remember every boon name and every hammer and every build and who first used it in the community?

Smh.

[toxic trellis]

[sour fog]

anyone ever notice that Nyx kinda has a second set of eyebrows?

[native blade]

There’s a surprising amount of gatekeepers in the Hades community.

What do y’all think of this?

[native blade]

Noice.

[high island]

I don't really care one way or another tbh.

[native blade]

Very fair.

[devout terrace]

Just people being clowns nothing new

[native blade]

‘Preciate that Ange, rly.

[eternal yoke]

i think its a bit silly to gatekeep tbh

[native blade]

Same, it’s such a freeform game why make such an issue of how people play?

[high island]

I posted my high heat WR on Reddit back in early access and it got the same number of downvotes as upvotes pretty much lol.

[native blade]

I could get it if it was a scam but was it?

[native blade]

That’s crazy, do u know why?

[high island]

People be peopling.

[brisk trail]

I'm not really sure what I'm reading here

[native blade]

[high island]

Idk I mean I ain't gonna be impressed by a clip like that, but I also don't see the point of putting someone down in comments who's just having fun lol.

[native blade]

Oh, just gatekeeping nonsense.

[high island]

I wouldn't really pay attention to comments like that.

[native blade]

Damn.

[native blade]

I ain’t really tilted just thought of it as an opportunity to create discourse.

[eternal yoke]

games should be fun!!

[high island]

No.

[native blade]

Lel.

[high island]

No fun, only win.

[native blade]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-thanos-meme-reaction-gif-23812090

[silver mica]

Today I learned that chaos boons can stack

I have two chaos attack boons and I didn't know you could do that

I have

But I've never gotten

Two of the same type

They're both very rare too so that's awesome

[high island]

There's a first time for everything.

[silver mica]

Ones +70% attack and one is +75%

[high island]

Nice.

[silver mica]

And I'm using Arthur :)

[native blade]

Noooooooice

Heat?

[silver mica]

7

EM3 and tight deadline

Going up to elysium now

[native blade]

Lel, same heat.

[silver mica]

I GOT SHADOW SLASH YES

[native blade]

Gl.

[high island]

Just unfortunate that Excalibur's swings are single hits, so you can't "bypass" armor despite all that damage bonus.

[silver mica]

Curse of nausea :D

Just got it

[steady dove]

Hello I got a question regarding a aspect and boon interaction, so whit Zeus shield special, dose battle rage from ares gives bonus dmg for the whole duration the special is out , or only the first instance of dmg it dose

[silver mica]

I think it's just the first hot

Hit*

[steady dove]

I'm thinking the same, or it would be busted, a epic version gives me 200% dmg after I slay a enemy

And I already have aphro special for 200% more

[silver mica]

Hm I got a hammer

What option do I pick

[steady dove]

What build?

[native blade]

Show pic.

[silver mica]

Hoarding slash
Breaching slash
Double nova

[native blade]

How much gold?

[silver mica]

293 but I have side hustle

[steady dove]

Feels like those are sword hammers, I'm not to knowing on what they do but most aren't to good, I know ppl use the dash strike ones a loot

[gray apex]

Breaching Slash

[steady dove]

The gold on dosent do much, I used it while I had 1500g and it didn't do much

[silver mica]

I have artemis special

So I was thinking double nova

[high island]

First hit only.

[silver mica]

Alr so breaching then

[steady dove]

Thanks, it's preety obvious for balance issues but it would have felt good if it was for the whole duration

[native blade]

Isn’t breaching wasted cuz Arthur just breaks armor anyways?

[silver mica]

Not always in styx

Also not for dash strikes

I'm tryna get heart rend rn

But I ran out of rerolls

[steady dove]

Btw ghost I saw ur heat lvl 7, as a newer player I had grate success whit hestia rail, I got to heat 16 whit it but got bored, in on a 20+ winstreaks atm

[silver mica]

Time to fight theseus

[steady dove]

It's fun and easy to use as long as u rebind reload and max the aspect

[silver mica]

Dammit

[native blade]

https://www.reddit.com/r/HadesTheGame/comments/10diolc/seriously_give_me_a_challenge/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[silver mica]

Made a few blunders and messed it up

Died D:

[steady dove]

I usualy focus on minotaur, then when he's dead I focus theseus

Always dashing in minotaurs stacks so I pass tought him and he hits behind me

Plenty of backstabs this way also

[native blade]

^ meta strat.

[steady dove]

I just found it simple 😂

Theseus just throws a spear and I hide behind pillars

I tought meta is to aoe nuke both in 5 seconds

[silver mica]

I accidentally used my companion too early

Asterius was just about still in his immune phase

[native blade]

Lel.

[native blade]

Are you talking about my vid?

[steady dove]

Idk

Maybe

[native blade]

Lol.

[steady dove]

I never use them I always forget they exits

[silver mica]

I use them only in that fight lmao

[steady dove]

If u mean the reddint link I didn't click it, but if it's that then it might been, saw it both on reddit and youtube

[native blade]

Ah.

Might not be me.

Did they nuke with Than?

[steady dove]

I saw a few whit mehara

[native blade]

Ah, I used Than.

[silver mica]

Tempted to annoy Demeter

Very tempted

Started a new run with lucifer

Yeah screw it I'll annoy demeter

[native blade]

…

You poor fool.

[silver mica]

Worth it

Next chamber was charons shop

Bought low tolerance

And I took rare crop from demeter

[steady dove]

Zeus shield is a bit hard to play but preety strong

[silver mica]

Zeus shield is nice

[steady dove]

Just when I max my first shield aspect, I unlock beowulf

[silver mica]

AW HECK YES

[steady dove]

Pain

[silver mica]

GOT EXCLUSIVE ACCESS

[steady dove]

:))

[silver mica]

And I'm only in asphodel

[steady dove]

What's that

Ah some duo boon

[silver mica]

It makes your minimum rarity for any boons you find rare

Guarantee purple:))

[native blade]

https://tenor.com/view/hype-gif-25972342

[rich horizon]

so by rare you mean epic

[silver mica]

Epic, right

My bad 😭

Now I need to

Not die

It's only heat 3 but I'm terrible at forced overtime

[hardy spear]

it takes a bit of learning but td3 will feel free eventually

[latent moon]

Js3 td3 fun

[rustic vale]

Js3 dc2 cp2 bp2 td3

[hardy spear]

em4

[swift inlet]

Yep

Lmao wait

Did youtube remove timestamp links

[native blade]

Rush Kick is awesome.

It’s like it gives Dash Strike to Special.

[hardy spear]

why dont you just dash special then

[native blade]

It’s better Dash special.

Compared to…?

I fly around the stage with it ion what you’re talking about, I like it.

I ain't dying so...

[high island]

Rush Kick Dash-Special is just Dash-Upper with more startup.

[native blade]

Cap, range is much bigger.

[high island]

Telling the Queen of Malphon "cap" smh.

[latent moon]

rush kick is funny but not great lmao

[high island]

Fun can be great.

[native blade]

^

[native blade]

Lel.

When you’re wrong, you’re wrong.

https://tenor.com/view/pas-cool-gif-18706133

[high island]

Off with his head.

[silent willow]

Beat my 13:07 pb today with a sub13 at 10 heat, and now followed it up with a sub11 at 11 heat

advancing my heats and improving my times

[native blade]

Insane.

[high island]

Next up is sub 10 at 12 Heat.

[silent willow]

hopefully! wondering what to pick up

the 11 heat one was uh... em2, fo2, hl2?

[high island]

If you want to be speedy, you can just do EM2 FO2 TD.

[silent willow]

wouldn't TD disable survival rooms? I'm going for igt

and these rooms pause it so

[high island]

Yeah, but it's not too much and your RTA can be better.

And it's free Heat.

[silent willow]

Pff, fair. I don't have a tool for counting rta since I'm worried my laptop would blow up if I ran one more thing beside hades it already slows to a crawl in some elysium rooms

I am never touching RI or AP ever again

Did em for prophecy, those heat options no longer exist to me

[high island]

RI4 AP2 for 13 Heat.

[native blade]

Translate?

Wait....

[high island]

Pact initialisms are pinned in #h1-high-heat-strategies.

[silent willow]

routine inspection (disables X bottom mirror talents)
approval process (reduces your boon/hammer choices from 3 to 2 or 1)

[native blade]

Yeah, I've never seen those in my life and I never will.

[silent willow]

Still gotta get meg summon for nuking minibosses

the nectar shortage is real

[high island]

That'll speed things up a lot.

[silent willow]

I was going for characters I like, so I only have dusa and skelly summons, and neither seems particularily helpful, pfff. I use dusa since some extra dps is better than none, I guess

[lusty mantle]

[silent willow]

Also I used to run HC on PC but I'm not confident when my game performs so badly on this laptop, pfff

So I guess that's a time loss too

Also, is there a better offensive keepsake to take for Hades than dad call?

That's what I've been using

[native blade]

Nyx’s I think?

[silent willow]

Oh hey, 11 streak too, will get my 12 streak back next run

Lost it to some dumb unfortunate death on Theseus of all things

[native blade]

F, anybody but Theseus.

[brazen aspen]

got hades!

[silent willow]

Congrats c:

That second phase sure catches you offguard the first time pffff

I got killed by the shockwave when I first fought him

[native blade]

Theoretically Than's maybe?

Welp, it's the only one then.

[rustic vale]

Shackle ez

[stone rune]

meg cracked

[brisk trail]

I agree with JFK here - Skull Earring with intentionally low HP is a huge boost. But you have to like, really not care about survivability.

[mint hatch]

I've just realized that in my over 150 hours, I only used Guan Yu once.
What's it good for?

Looking at its moveset nothing really comes to mind

[rustic vale]

It’s special is a stand out

Great aoe

Good damage

Charged skewer exists

[stone rune]

its*

i heard guan yu can do easy clears

would that work for bounties

[latent moon]

Lc4 SD with earring is based ngl

Wouldn't take into dad fight tho

Maybe ely

[mint hatch]

Damn, it's incompatible with all of the fun hammers

[stone rune]

for bounties as well demeter is what people use for fists right

[native blade]

Damn, maybe I should pick up Earring.

[latent moon]

Yeah

Dem is the go-to fists for usefulness

[stone rune]

is fo2 that bad with arthur

[native blade]

*Power.

Zag’s really useful.

[latent moon]

The main gimmick with earring is that it's always active with lc4 SD lol

If you're short on time or dps it's good

[stone rune]

it's below 40 right

[stone rune]

not if you give up if you make it to champions with no patty 💪

[latent moon]

Fo2 Arthur is fine

[latent moon]

Yeah

[stone rune]

oh wait

i only need 20 heat

lol

man why was i such a fan of arthur this is kind of annoying

[high island]

It's pretty bad lol.

Takes a whole lot of practice to be comfortable with it.

[stone rune]

i might actually use something else for these bounties

i gotta have been sick in the head or something

[high island]

Acorn to keep up High Confidence and Hourglass for Well items can be better depending on build and aspect.

[high island]

Yeah, I don't recommend FO2 until 40+ on Excalibur if you're just going for easy wins and not a challenge or practice or whatever.

[stone rune]

don't even have fo2 on

it's not hard

it's just annoying

rn im on hl4 em3 bp2 mm td2

would have done hl1 td3 but i havent used arthur for a long time

only 20 heat

so it's no real issue

[high island]

That shouldn't be too bad.

[stone rune]

but it's so slow

hestia stays winning

i wish again that i could just move all the bounties to hestia

[high island]

Well, that's comparing one of the fastest aspects in the game to possibly the slowest lol.

[stone rune]

i did like 24 clears with this thing idk how i could stand it

the numbers arent even that big

[high island]

It's fun if you just chill with tanky build and don't stress too much over clear speed.

[stone rune]

not slow as in like that

but slow as in like

you click the button and you gotta time travel to find out when it'll hit

im blashpheming rn

[high island]

You can dash while he's pulling back for the swings for better positioning, so it's not like you're doing nothing.

[stone rune]

i retract all of these statements

arthur is the best aspect in the game

dear lord arthur please dont behead me

[wheat coral]

Anyone here seen this? I think it's a super interesting perspective of the diversity in Hades and what kinds of shortcomings it may have.
https://youtu.be/C9S83Xmuq4A

[high island]

As for damage, you'll want Smair and Chaos boons.

I only watch good videos.

[stone rune]

ok nevermind i missed arthur

witch cheese is hilarious

cannot believe i just rerolled athena twice and no ddash

gotta be trolling me

[high island]

Shoulda just gone with Special or Cast after the first roll, probably.

[wheat coral]

How do you judge how good a video is before watching it? /g

[stone rune]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1054474976083849236/1064649300161871972/image.png

[high island]

With great intelligence and wisdom.

[stone rune]

ohhh thats why i didnt get ddash

i have hunter dash

forgot that counts

[high island]

Bruh.

Yeah, exchanges only have a 10% chance of showing up lol.

[stone rune]

but oh boy i just got offered ORANGE pash dash to replace my purple hunter's dash. orange is better

so clearly i should take it right???

[wheat coral]

Aaaah, no, he doesn't argue that at all. He has a lot of empathy for the game and how it was made, he makes it explicit in the first few minutes that the video is just about sharing his very specific perspective of it.

[high island]

Lady Aphrodite's boons are always better.

[stone rune]

i think it'd be funny and hilarious if you bought gemstones at the shop and they gave you cash

it's like cashback

but not at all

[native blade]

Always.

[brazen aspen]

Sooo Boones disapear if I die?

[raw herald]

Yes

[mint hatch]

That's the gameplay loop.

[brazen aspen]

I got lucky to get near imortality boone, it carried me through first fight with Magaera

-60% hp but 2 hp per hit

[stone rune]

probably should go to #h1-for-new-players

if u dont want spoilers

[brazen aspen]

Okay

[stone rune]

FINALLY I CAN GET THE LAST COMPANION CHRIST ALMIGHTY ACHILLES WHY ARE YOU ALLERGIC TO GIVING ME DIALOGUE

[silver mica]

I FELT THAT, MY GOD

BRO WAS RUNNING AWAY FROM ME

[stone rune]

why do i always get scyllasion

[latent moon]

Perfect catch moment

Pretty sure that's perfect catch anyways

[stone rune]

yeah

but with perfect it's still 50/50 for rare and legendary

[latent moon]

True

[stone rune]

i have left rooms so many times without collecting my trove rewards

why does it pop ou tlike that

[high island]

"Rare" are the most common fish, ironically.

[stone rune]

yeah you've got a 50% chance of getting them

25% for the others

i think

given equal probability of perfect or not catch

[native blade]

LOL!!!

[strange crystal]

I'm not sure I care for Chaos Aegis?

[hardy spear]

depends what aspect

[strange crystal]

Chaos

[hardy spear]

ok yeah thats the worst shield aspect

[latent moon]

Chaos aspect sucks lol

[strange crystal]

Yea, I'm not liking it

It doesnt really do anything

[hardy spear]

true

the special on shield kinda just sucks apart from zeus aspect

[strange crystal]

I like Chiron bow though

Auto tracking special is great

[hardy spear]

fair

[stone rune]

i love hestia so much

if it's on your screen you can kill it

i am a singular obol short rn

[native blade]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1064673448846163978/image.png?width=1246&height=701

[stone rune]

LOL

triple cluster is amazing

tactical nuke

[hardy spear]

unfortunate

[rustic vale]

You got codex mod installed?

[stone rune]

OH GOD

thank the lord

nearly ended my streak through the codex

[stone rune]

yep

thankfully my alt-f4 skills are still sharp

[native blade]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/755677197670285312/1064674197592342560/image.png

[rustic vale]

Fun

reset your stubborn defiance

[native blade]

Lel, they're ded.

[stone rune]

8 heat

[native blade]

I can't.

[rustic vale]

Do it for them

[native blade]

Still can't and no.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1064208263006142604/1064584194111570031/image.png?width=911&height=701

[native blade]

Check my Mirror out.

[native blade]

Good thing I got Strong Drink.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1031568485857370113/1064676557496532992/image.png?width=1246&height=701

So useful...

[rustic vale]

Numbing sensation

[native blade]

Meh.

[hardy spear]

wait thats a boon?

[rustic vale]

[native blade]

Yep.

[carmine wraith]

Does fishing lure work like god keepsakes where it'll keep spawning a fishing spot until you fish at it?

[latent moon]

No

[rustic vale]

No

[carmine wraith]

Ah darn, the void fish are impossible to get :(

[ionic minnow]

If I get patty as last room before Final Ely Shop, and I take Cyclops Jerky lasting 10 chambers, is it possible to still have it for Hades if I get a 2-sack?

[solar vault]

Yep!

[raw herald]

Possible but very unlikely

You need double small tunnel

And a 2 sack

Small tunnel is like 1/8 or smth

Wait sack room doesn’t count

You need 1 small tunnel then

[solar vault]

Getting there with Touch of Styx Dark is more reasonable, I kinda assumed they were the same duration oops

[mental vale]

thats a solid 23% given 2 sack

which is like probably ~14% total

[brisk trail]

[OlympusExtra] Going back and forth and overlapping Hestia's trail of fire dash boon on heroes is funni, I even stop attacking for a moment just to see how much damage it does (although, admittely, I'm really doing this fight wrong, but if the bosses die and I don't need to pop a DD, isn't that fine?)

https://imgur.com/a/i35w4dv

[carmine wraith]

There's no wrong way to play the game lol

[rich horizon]

only wrong way to play is one that isn't fun for you 🤷

[native blade]

Truth.

[brisk trail]

good point ^_^

[wicked swan]

the only weapon i havent cleared with is spear

i find it unfun

[rich horizon]

me w sword except I'm a completionist 😔

[native blade]

Lel.

You’re definitely a pro enjoyer.

[rich horizon]

tbh i get more joy out of how my runs look with 8 heat on each weapon than the amount I lose by playing with sword

wow I really just typed spear when that's tied for my second fav weapon

[native blade]

Nice.

[stone rune]

is coin purse affected by affluence

[native blade]

???