sooo i should put all my blood into chaos
#h1-discussion
stone rune
high island
Where's your army?
brisk trail
i dont need an army i know karate 
(/j)
solar vault
If you like chaos I feel like you should just go for it
high island
sooo i should put all my blood into chaos
Literally the weakest shield, and optimal way to play it pretty much ignores the special lol.
But if you enjoy it, sure.
brisk trail
sooo i should put all my blood into chaos
oh yeah the answer is no, did you see my reply earlier
@stone rune
stone rune
i dont need an army i know karate <a:birb:595802012063367169> (/j)
i don't need an army i have
native blade
stone rune
so
i guess
well
what about
rama
nemesis
poseidon
lucifer
not so much the last one
brisk trail
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/755677197670285312/1063736270930583592/im...
depends on context. If I saw this on a zeus shield run with an empty special i would be very happy (tbh i would have just keepsake boon'd it to get zeus special anyway thoguh)
stone rune
my list rn seems ot be
brisk trail
rama
Rama - Good if you can use it effectively, but hard to master and generally more difficult to play optimally | Nemesis - Great sword aspect, and the only competitor to Arthur | Posiedon - Basically the worst castspect | Lucifer - Very fun gun but outshined by Eris or Hestia in most cases. Very fun though, and great with triple bomb!
stone rune
alr
ig ill max those 5
i need 4 more titan blood for the last one
which should i leave oujt
zeus probably
brisk trail
zeus is my favorite one 
but go with your preferences
stone rune
what the hell is this
native blade
I concede.
native blade
I'ma try again later.
brisk trail
what the hell is this
if you're referring to zeus disc, it's heaven. Get a zeus special on it for zeus squared, and pom it too if you can. It will tear through your enemies!!
native blade
Damn, u like Arthur too?
stone rune
so which of my new toys should i try first
brisk trail
so which of my new toys should i try first
Eris or Zeus imo (but do what you want lol)
stone rune
what sort of build do i want for dzeus
native blade
Respectabble.
high island
@stone rune if you want a guide for what aspects to unlock or upgrade, my guide is pinned in #h1-for-new-players.
high island
I think all of them can be fun.
But you'll at least have an idea of what kind of power you can expect from each or how much you'll need to invest to make them usable.
brisk trail
what sort of build do i want for dzeus
Decent % boon on attack, ideal is aphrodite or artemis. Zeus special >> Dio special >>>>>> everything else. Most people use zeus keepsake and dice rolls in tartarus to garauntee zeus special (thunder flourish) on zeus shield. Divine dash is good here, better than Tidal dash, unlike on some other aspects where tidal is better. Cast doesn't matter too much, get a good cast and a good call.
brisk trail
@stone rune oh also get Static discharge (jolted) - jolted is great on zeus disc
gloomy trail
whats like the avg runs for the first time completion
brisk trail
wait so i should get the special before the strike?
On zeus shield you should get special boon before attack boon yes (if that special boon is zeus)
high island
I'd put Heartbreak Flourish and Deadly Flourish over Drunken Flourish tbh.
solar vault
mine was 44 (I'm not good at games lol)
slim geyser
mine was 60, i also suck at games
high island
Divine Flourish also great for deflects and Merciful End.
solar vault
yeah!
gloomy trail
oh
slim geyser
usually between 15 and 60 id say
but its your game experience so dont worry about it
stone rune
Divine Flourish also great for deflects and Merciful End.
oh man i could see divine flourish with deadly reversal going crazy
native blade
depends on context. If I saw this on a zeus shield run with an empty special i w...
Nah, Zeus boons are goated, I just hate Zeus.
stone rune
Divine Flourish also great for deflects and Merciful End.
wouldn't you need ares attack
high island
oh man i could see divine flourish with deadly reversal going crazy
Not too much, but it definitely won't hurt.
high island
wouldn't you need ares attack
Yes.
solar vault
Nah, Zeus boons are goated, I just hate Zeus.
I don't think anybody actually really likes Zeus
native blade
Rama - Good if you can use it effectively, but hard to master and generally more...
The Lucifer one is right on the money.
stone rune
dzeus is so annoyingg
slim geyser
Rama - Good if you can use it effectively, but hard to master and generally more...
i wont take this posideon slander
brisk trail
@stone rune Hammers: Charged Shot (combined with Sudden Rush or Minotaur Rush especially, but keep in mind that either of those are probably only ideal to take if you have Charged Shot) is still S-tier on Zeus. Ferocious Guard is fantastic. Breaching rush is good especially if you struggle with armor. Other good hammers if you dont get Cshot are Pulverizing Blow and, to a lesser extent, Dashing Wallop.
slim geyser
it's really fun
not nessecarily good but really fun
high island
Lord Zeus likes himself so much, he makes up for everyone who dislikes him.
stone rune
<@752689126448300033> Hammers: Charged Shot (combined with Sudden Rush or Minota...
you shouldn't take sudden rush without cshot???
wild
high island
Also, he'll throw lightning bolts at anyone who dislikes him.
native blade
I don't think anybody actually really likes Zeus
Fair.
brisk trail
I'd put Heartbreak Flourish and Deadly Flourish over Drunken Flourish tbh.
just saw this part - fair assessment, I have to admit I put too much weight into the "flat damage" part on initial consideration, but since hangover caps it's not as good as it would be
brisk trail
you shouldn't take sudden rush without cshot???
I mean, I said maybe - it heavily depends on the other 2 hammers you're given. If you're given 2 worse hammers (idk, say, explosive return and dashing wallop on a first hammer) then it can't hurt to take sudden rush without having Charged Shot. But it's fairly low on your priority list for zeus hammers, especially since there's like 2 or 3 weak hammers you can't even get on zeus shield
high island
<@752689126448300033> Hammers: Charged Shot (combined with Sudden Rush or Minota...
Charged Shot > Explosive Return > Sudden Rush > the rest.
stone rune
I mean, I said maybe - it heavily depends on the other 2 hammers you're given. I...
you just described my first hammer lol
brisk trail
Charged Shot > Explosive Return > Sudden Rush > the rest.
Wait, explosive return on zeus? How does that even play?
stone rune
explosive return dashing wallop sudden rush
brisk trail
I'm actually really curious now. Because I play a lot of zeus and have not gotten good use from that. The base damage is pretty low (ESPECIALLY late in runs) and you generally want your shield out, not to spam throw and return
high island
not to spam throw and return
That's exactly what you wanna do.
brisk trail
...but animation time. And enemies that don't move as much.
stone rune
rod rod rod????
brisk trail
grey dstrike purple true shot grey pp
pressure points or dstrike, probably dstrike so you can fill out a core boon.
nothing wrong with purple true shot either but i find it nice to have the buffed attack earlier
pressure points is just kinda always good to have
high island
Wait, explosive return on zeus? How does that even play?
@brisk trail do you happen to have a VOD on hand that shows Explosive Return on Zeus in action?
stone rune
4 well items now
brisk trail
<@456226577798135808> do you happen to have a VOD on hand that shows Explosive R...
Thank you, this is the best way to go about this. I really am genuinely curious about potentially tailoring my playstyle a bit, because I already see the most success with Zeus but if I can be even better, I'm interested to see how that hammer can play and scale throughout the run
high island
Much easier to show it in action than try to explain it.
brisk trail
haha we said the same thing at the same time, great minds think alike
brisk trail
rather laborious
can you elaborate a little im curious what you mean? and do you have thunder flourish already?
brisk trail
oh dang. Okay. Guess it's not for everyone.
No harm in that
With weapons that play so different, personal playstyle is a big thing. Achilles and Hera are the 2 S-tiers that I don't really play as nicely with as most good players do, and to a lesser extent Beowulf
stone rune
purple flourish infact
high island
Zeus has a very high skill ceiling.
stone rune
too much upkeep for it, i like clicking mouse button
brisk trail
Zeus has a very high skill ceiling.
For sure. Also holds that heat world record ^_^
Hold on a sec
stone rune
actually i did 1024 heat with arthur which iirc never got beaten
brisk trail
Lemme see if I have a run that gets it early enough
high island
I think Zeus might have the most actions per minute if you use it optimally. Although Hera and Beowulf are also up there with all that Cast loading.
stone rune
i didnt buy this game to be moving like starcraft
high island
Oh yeah, Achilles also up there.
brisk trail
Would Hestia be up there? With the special animation-cancelling the reload?
Would be close
But not quite
gotcha
So that doesn't look like I got an anyheat vod that gets it early enough 
Lemme check high heat vods
Ohey this does it
thank you so much!!!
brisk trail
I mean I can at least see the motions xD but yeah, probably won't look quite like my runs
stone rune
me personally i only need mouse1 to clear 1024 heat but that's just me
brisk trail
The big difference is that in the lower heats you can use the explosion itself to one or two-shot most ennemies in tartarus
high island
Thanks for coming through! 
brisk trail
This does make me realize that I don't get an early hammer in my fastest attempts
Which is funny to me
stone rune
you know
where tf is hera during the game
hephaestus is mentioned
apollo and hestia are excused
but hera is just ignored
brisk trail
I'm not sure. Nothing wrong at all with asking here but you might get people who know the answer more in #h1-story-discussion , if this server has lore nerds, they're there.
high island
Lord Zeus mentions Hera at one point, pretty sure. Don't think by name, though.
wild dagger
if i want to unlock the hidden aspect of the bow do i just have to talk to artemis with it in hand with any other aspect or do i need to use the normal one ? also is it the same with the shield ?
brisk trail
if i want to unlock the hidden aspect of the bow do i just have to talk to artem...
Hidden aspect unlocks can be weirdly counterintuitive with who you get them from. Would you like me to link you the list though?
wild dagger
i looked up how to unlock them
just wanna know if i have to use the normal form or if it works with any other aspect
stone rune
it should be any
brisk trail
oh yeah any aspect of the weapon
solar vault
You can get the waking phrase whilst using any weapon I believe
solar vault
you need to get a bow dialogue with artemis once before, but after that it doesn't matter
wild dagger
i see
brisk trail
you need to get a bow dialogue with artemis once before, but after that it doesn...
ahh that was it, thanks for clarifying, i knew it had something to do with the bow >_<
crisp summit
but bow is a good weapon anyway so just run with bow smh
stone rune
but then you can have anything
wild dagger
oh cool cool
stone rune
CHIRON CHIRON CHIRON CHIRON CHIRON CHIRON CHIRON CHIRON CHIRON
crisp summit
chiron 😎
wild dagger
ima go with the bow first since i dunno if i got the dialogue before or not
brisk trail
Chiron falls off at very high heat (45+ish i think?) but at most levels of play it is a great (and imo fun) consistent weapon
stone rune
chiron never falls off
chiron is almost the #1 goat
sadly ARTHUR 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 and XESTIJA 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 beat it
wild dagger
is there an order in which i have to get them ?
brisk trail
arthur is so fun to just whack things with, especially when you're on the other side of the map (hyperbole, but the swing range compared to puny swords is just 
)
wild dagger
sadly ARTHUR 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 and XESTIJA 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 💪 beat it
can i make arthur faster ?
stone rune
can i make arthur faster ?
hermes
stone rune
shadow slash
crisp summit
true true, although shadow slash doesn't work on dash strikes which is sad but on arthur it doesn't matter as much
native blade
arthur is so fun to just whack things with, especially when you're on the other ...
Yep.
crisp summit
idk about FAST but they're faster than regular strikes yeah
i don't think they're faster than normal dash strikes on other swords
stone rune
wouldn't they be higher dmg
crisp summit
there's a chance I'm wrong about that
stone rune
so if they're even just hovering near they would have better ds dps
crisp summit
thing is though, dash striking with arthur isnt even like dash striking with other swords because even when you constantly dash you're still putting in normal hits along with dash hits
either way, im not arguing that shadow slash isn't good on arthur. Dedge+Shadowslash is basically the ideal arthur hammer combo
But the heck do you do on zagsword or posiedon
crisp summit
fair
crisp summit
...also fair.
crisp summit
Nemesis has double nova become better since you're using special a lot
stone rune
they all are special ds ds right
crisp summit
so its not as much suffering from bad hammer syndrome
nova hammers just become better on artemis
stone rune
artemis??
crisp summit
NEMESIS omg its 2am
stone rune
lol
don't you special every 2 hits on zag and poseidon too
or is there a diff combo
i thought it was always special dashtrike dashtrike
crisp summit
idk brain is not working right now. I should probably go to bed. G'nite
stone rune
gn
high island
doesn't arthur have fast dash strikes for some reason
Refer to this post for Excalibur attack storage tech. #h1-discussion message
stone rune
pin??
brisk trail
Refer to this post for Excalibur attack storage tech. <:tizomg:45691342758831718...
today I learned, actually :O
high island
Don't think they'll pin high level tech like that here tbh.
stone rune
unfortunate
brisk trail
i like how she casually has over 1 million darkness in the video
stone rune
i actually have 5.725 quindecillion darkness
high island
I think the clips are from Pseudo.
crisp summit
was this meant for the cookie clicker discord
brisk trail
that is a lot of darkness 
high island
it's darkness
The text reads Darkness, so it must be.
stone rune
of course
brisk trail
I mean, it's a photo, we all know seeing is believing
stone rune
tbh it reads more DARRE88
devout terrace
Hi
high island
lol
high island
I mean, it's a photo, we all know seeing is believing
That's Hades 2, though, isn't it? Says Game v. 2.048. If it's version 2, it must be Hades 2.
native blade
You don’t even know how excited I am rn, I just saw how awesome you are and then you’re just here.
high island
Pay for autograph.
devout terrace
Lmao
brisk trail
That's Hades 2, though, isn't it? Says Game v. 2.048. If it's version 2, it must...
Hades 2 leak real!!! Supergiant games pissed!!!
stone rune
bold decision of supergiant to make it an idle game
high island
I can't imagine them angry, they're too cool for that.
stone rune
demeter makes cameo appearance
crisp summit
I definitely can't believe that Hades 2 didn't take the "FPS" approach
native blade
Glad my yt videos are finally getting some views
For sure, they’re good videos, and the music’s good too.
native blade
I definitely can't believe that Hades 2 didn't take the "FPS" approach
Lel.
high island
They did take the FPS approach. Can't play the game unless you get steady 120 FPS.
stone rune
if you ever dip to 119 a supergiant sleeper agent comes to your house and kills you with a replica of zag sword
crisp summit
cough HIS NAME IS TONY
high island
if you ever dip to 119 a supergiant sleeper agent comes to your house and kills ...
It's Zag Sword, though. I wouldn't be scared.
That thing does no damage. 
brisk trail
*cough* HIS NAME IS TONY
not mad or anything, stay long as you want but didnt you say you were going to bed
stone rune
It's Zag Sword, though. I wouldn't be scared.
You have HL100 on
crisp summit
not mad or anything, stay long as you want but didnt you say you were going to b...
I did. I am in bed. On my phone now. Was on my computer. I should sleep though. Just... stalling...
brisk trail
9 out of 10 doctors recommend sleeping
high island
You have HL100 on
See, that already disqualifies the SGG devs from entering my house. They can't handle Heat that high.
crisp summit
jokes on you, my doc is the other 1
stone rune
See, that already disqualifies the SGG devs from entering my house. They can't h...
well it's a sleeper agent
all of the WR holders are actually hired guns
except me
my revolutionary 1024 heat clears came entirely unexpected to the nefarious supergiant
high island
I still have some WRs, pretty sure.
brisk trail
conspiracy: all WR holders are the same person updating their PBs on SRC and everyone just thinks they have a chance
stone rune
the company is actually named after the super giant dude they have in their cellar
brisk trail
(jk jk)
high island
Mirrorless boonless definitely.
stone rune
the company is actually named after the super giant dude they have in their cell...
he puts out all the orders
like the guy from hitchhiker's guide
high island
conspiracy: all WR holders are the same person updating their PBs on SRC and eve...
We all know we don't have a chance in speedruns because Croven will just pull out a faster run from his "old WRs I haven't uploaded yet" folder.
stone rune
We all know we don't have a chance in speedruns because Croven will just pull ou...
you're lucky i haven't put out my 0:52 clear yet
high island
the company is actually named after the super giant dude they have in their cell...
Her name is Supergiant Games.
brisk trail
There's this company called Supermassive Games, and I started this story game called the Quarry they made. When the credit first loaded with the logo at first I was like "arent those the people that made Hades"
stone rune
*Her* name is Supergiant Games.
no, her name is John Fitzgerald Kennedy
high island
No, that's her superhero name.
crisp summit
Does the F in John F Kennedy really stand for Fitzgerald
stone rune
yes
crisp summit
I can see why people abbreviate it to F
high island
I just call him Fitz.
brisk trail
dont let jackie find out
brisk trail
cant help but think he would've loved hades 💔
high island
one thing chaos aspect is good for is reanimation?
I prefer live action.
brisk trail
anyone with a good taste in roguelites wouldve loved hades
stone rune
anyone with a good taste in roguelites wouldve loved hades
POSTAL REDUX is better
high island
Anyone with good taste would love Hades.
brisk trail
father of modern roguelites jk fitzgerald
native blade
anyone with a good taste in roguelites wouldve loved hades
Can vouch.
native blade
Anyone with good taste would love Hades.
^
stone rune
me 2 years ago wasn't too fond of it
native blade
When the Hades:
stone rune
me 2 years ago wasn't too fond of it
brisk trail
! Wait... wrong Hades. 
There we go
stone rune
thats where my first save comes from
native blade
When the Hades:
solar vault
2021 was two years ago
native blade
thats where my first save comes from
Damn…
brisk trail
2021 was two years ago <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
as someone who was born in 2021 this makes me feel old (/j, obviously)
high island
I like the part where Hades says "It's Hadesin' time."
native blade
I say damn too much.
native blade
I like the part where Hades says "It's Hadesin' time."
It’s definitely one of the Hades of all time.
native blade
as someone who was born in 2021 this makes me feel old (/j, obviously)
2 year old veteran gamer.
A scary yet intriguing concept.
brisk trail
veteran gamer.. you flatter me, I just have a passion for obsessing over games I like xD but thank you
native blade
veteran gamer.. you flatter me, I just have a passion for obsessing over games I...
Aren’t all of us like that? Lol.
brisk trail
True, true. Not sure everyone is as nerdy as I am about it but it's definitely a common trait (especially in this discord!)
brisk trail
2 year old veteran gamer.
competitive binky
solar vault
we're here in the sgg discord, absolutely
native blade
veteran gamer.. you flatter me, I just have a passion for obsessing over games I...
And you’re welcome, Preciate the gratitude.
native blade
True, true. Not sure everyone is as nerdy as I am about it but it's definitely a...
How nerdy are you?
stone rune
i focus on things veyr much
hades has lasted a while now
like 3 weeks
usually it's a week or 2
longest was 7 months
for csgo
native blade
Bro hold one second.
solar vault
I've had a game I really loved and played every two years (before it was botw and hollow knight)
stone rune
i think
brisk trail
I've had a game I really loved and played every two years (before it was botw an...
ayyyy hollow knight gang 
stone rune
west of loathing comes up often
solar vault
I mean I still stay interested and play other games in between but they don' have as much impact
native blade
Damn.
native blade
You’re a true vet.
native blade
I’m a flash kid.
brisk trail
Sadly the games ive put the most time into are not steam games so i wouldnt be able to share a screenshot like that. I had a very long period where I was an MMO gamer, and sunk literally over 600 days of gametime (maybe take away 10-20% of that to account for afking) on WoW and FF14 combined
brisk trail
Sadly the games ive put the most time into are not steam games so i wouldnt be a...
keep in mind this is over the course of like 7-8 years
native blade
Sadly the games ive put the most time into are not steam games so i wouldnt be a...
Wao
tall trench
woo first 32 heat attempt and clear
stone rune
i still think hl1 is the best game of all time by like a landslide
brisk trail
Wao
btw, funny comment about that, while I spent I'd say a little more time on WoW it was roughly equal, and I'd rate WoW a 6/10 game and FF14 a 9/10 game. Not to practically advertise here but I gotta be honest, playing FF14 made my time on WoW almost feel super wasted and compulsive in retrospect compared to actually being engaged
native blade
I mean it’s definitely one of the most influential games of all time without a shadow of a doubt.
stone rune
why are there so many final fantasy
brisk trail
there were times I would be farming dungeons in wow for hours and hours trying to get a 0.2% drop chance item to sell for big economy money while watching youtube or netflix for entertainment on the side. Definitely not a good use of my time.
stone rune
who needs so many
stone rune
there were times I would be farming dungeons in wow for hours and hours trying t...
literally geometry dash
native blade
btw, funny comment about that, while I spent I'd say a little more time on WoW i...
Alright, now I gotta look up some FF14 gameplay.
brisk trail
Alright, now I gotta look up some FF14 gameplay.
it's an MMORPG with an actual good story and a community that isn't toxic. Worth checking out! (but can be demanding on time, make sure your schedule is open, that said there's no rush or pressure to progress super fast or anything. y'know how MMOs are)
native blade
there were times I would be farming dungeons in wow for hours and hours trying t...
Don’t remind me of my MMO era.
Wartune…
Angel League…
stone rune
i dont see the appeal of mmo
im a big fan of singleplayer though
apparently some people have never played a singleplayer game
i was watching some kliksphilip video and he said he had met multiple people who had never played a singleplayer game
native blade
im a big fan of singleplayer though
Same but a big sell in mmo is how, well, huge it is.
native blade
i was watching some kliksphilip video and he said he had met multiple people who...
That’s crazy, not even a flash game?
stone rune
you know i never 100%d supraland
brisk trail
<:PI_hinakoscared:683861195823775788> Don’t remind me of my MMO era.
pat pat many of us have been there, friend
brisk trail
gif link stolen, ty for gif
stone rune
stone rune
i was so so so into csgo and i didnt even have the game
native blade
And literally the moment I had access to a computer it got discontinued.
stone rune
i remember the day it went f2p
native blade
i was so so so into csgo and i didnt even have the game
That’s me and Binding of Issac rn.
stone rune
i played like 300 hours just with bots
native blade
gif link stolen, ty for gif
Np.
stone rune
That’s me and Binding of Issac rn.
i got the old one
doesn't even run in 16:9
let alone 1080p
native blade
i got the old one
Flash version or rebirth?
native blade
let alone 1080p
Lel.
stone rune
steam
stone rune
ive got 26 min playtime
apparently i have 800 hours on pvz
it's 2 am
christ almighty
uhh cyall
native blade
it's an MMORPG with an actual good story and a community that isn't toxic. Worth...
You know any good content creators that play it you’d recommend?
native blade
apparently i have 800 hours on pvz
Speaking of pvz, who here played it?
brisk trail
i wasnt allowed to use a computer when it was big 
native blade
i wasnt allowed to use a computer when it was big <:residentzag:5800974511978578...
When did ya get one?
brisk trail
i was maybe 10 when it was at peak popularity
i got a dinky pc in my teens that couldnt run anything so newgrounds was my jam
native blade
i got a dinky pc in my teens that couldnt run anything so newgrounds was my jam ...
Can relate, I had a lenova laptop with the same issue but eventually it got eaten by ants.
:/
void vigil
conversation of other video games is better suited to #video-games channel 
native blade
Fair.
wild dagger
chaos kinda wholsome tho
explosive shot or repulse shot on the heart seeking bow
i feel like both would be fun
raw herald
They’re both pretty bad
wild dagger
wot
raw herald
What’s the third option
wild dagger
twin shot
wild dagger
fr ?
raw herald
Yes
Double damage
Explosive shot charges way too slowly
And repulse shot adds no damage
wild dagger
tought it would lower it a lot more than it did
how should i use the special tho ?
barely does any damage
snow skiff
high island
Use Dash-Strike Power Shots btw because they charge much faster than standing Attack.
Well, trying to get Power Shots when you're just learning to use Rama can be a bit difficult because you need to charge for quite a bit. But better to try anyway even if you get interrupted sometimes.
You'll get better at gauging when you can get away with the Power Shots if you keep trying.
wild dagger
oh
yeah i see now
yet again i got a hard choise
choice
tempest strike or tempest flourish
both epic
raw herald
What’s the third
wild dagger
flood cast
raw herald
Take that
high island
Tempest Strike has the worst % on Attack and pom scaling so bad that you'll want your money back.
wild dagger
i could reroll them
raw herald
Flood shot is fine, no need to waste a roll
wild dagger
aight
wild dagger
perfect shot seems fun
cyan jolt
I hate the shielded enemies in Elysium so much
The amount of my runs that they killed is unbelievable
high island
They always spawn looking to the right btw.
So you can backstab them from the left when they spawn.
cyan jolt
Interesting
tired karma
olympus extra is kinda mid
2 new gods are pretty boring, same for their abilities
no offence to the one who created the mod
fleet barn
Does anyone have photos of what all the themes you can buy look like?
grave sage
Using hades' keepsake against him is hillarious
wispy hound
That forth aspect of the spear was the biggest letdown of my life
I'm not even going to bother to remember it's name
rustic vale
Guan-Yu is uber based wdym
rustic vale
Does anyone have photos of what all the themes you can buy look like?
I just have images of infinity theme but here: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/725021639506526249/1034995274776588378/IMG_2424.jpg?width=1239&height=701
wispy hound
Guan-Yu is uber based wdym
I can click mouse 1, go make myself a tea, fix every mistake I have ever made in my life, find a lifelong partner, have kids with them and when I'm in my deathbed that God forsaken spear would still be winding up the first strike
rustic vale
I can click mouse 1, go make myself a tea, fix every mistake I have ever made in...
Well uh
The issue there is you’re using strike
Special on Guan-Yu is uber based
wispy hound
Don't care about no special
rustic vale
You should
wispy hound
If the primary attack isn't reliable I won't use it
rustic vale
it’s the best part of Guan-Yu
wispy hound
They just don't make them like they used to
rustic vale
The special is the primary attack
wispy hound
Aspect of hades, best weapon
rustic vale
aspect of hades is also a special focused weapon if you don’t find serrated point
wispy hound
By special you mean the spin attack?
wispy hound
The throw?
rustic vale
Yes
wispy hound
What is so special about the special
rustic vale
That is the spears special
On guan-yu? Big base damage, good aoe, if you find charged skewer it’s huge base damage
it’s basically exploding launcher but with better aoe
thorny mirage
k
rustic vale
Then switch your special button off of q
wispy hound
I will switch it to m1
wispy hound
Also how is aspect of hades special reliant?
rustic vale
Only if you find exploding launcher and cskewer
wispy hound
I have played with that weapon a while now and I believe I have used it like twice
thorny mirage
Also how is aspect of hades special reliant?
they never said it was
rustic vale
But +150% additive of exploding launcher cskewer is huge
thorny mirage
They should make chain skewer a hammer
rustic vale
Compared to… what hades spear can do with it’s strike
Chain skewer ain’t real
Charged skewer is
thorny mirage
they should make it real
rustic vale
they should remove it from the hammer pool of spear
rustic vale
I have played with that weapon a while now and I believe I have used it like twi...
150 base damage special with innate +150% additive from Hades spear goes hard
It’s not reliant persay it’s just a really really good option
Hammer reliant though
rustic vale
Hammer reliant though
Kind of like every spear aside from Achilles though
fervent jewel
ngl i love seeing the hammer i go for it everytime
especially for stuff like "every consecutive arrow hit from the technique does more damage" on chiron
rustic vale
Concentrated volley is like the best chiron hammer yeah
robust iris
fervent jewel
i'm good! how are you 😛
strong ridge
wat is highest eris heat
raw herald
60 seeded unmodded
strong ridge
nice
cyan jolt
What's the highest unseeded heat someone completed?
rustic vale
I think it’s 63
signal aspen
63 modded 62 unmodded
native blade
Ayo, is there anyone who’s good at clearing Erebus encounters?
cyan jolt
I think it’s 63
Wait I thought that run was seeded
rustic vale
Wait I thought that run was seeded
64 was routed, 63 wasn’t
cyan jolt
For 64 they used the pact from hell mode right
cyan jolt
Does it make any difference
rustic vale
Yes
high island
Ayo, is there anyone who’s good at clearing Erebus encounters?
Fidi and Skelly are great at clearing Erebus.
raw herald
ive attempted maybe 1 ely erebus ever
high island
ive attempted maybe 1 ely erebus ever
It's fine until superelite Soul Catcher lol.
native blade
ive attempted maybe 1 ely erebus ever
I pretty much can only clear with shield, I play too recklessly otherwise.
raw herald
just first chamber epic drunken strike
buoyant valley
had a thought while watching haelians vid about the OlympusExtra mod
Hestia on Lucifer attack would be a tractor beam
raw herald
It was mom Pom start
native blade
It was mom Pom start
Mom Pom is best pom.
old dawn
150 base damage special with innate +150% additive from Hades spear goes hard
wish i got charged skewer ever on guan yu
native blade
wish i got charged skewer ever on guan yu
It goes hard fr.
wanton spire
which one is better to get first?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1045985210740781107/1063871877820448859/Hades_3ILA9SfIuB.png?
raw herald
Keys
native blade
which one is better to get first?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/10459...
Do u have the nectar one?
wanton spire
yes
errant thistle
guys
can someone help me
i made 5 hours in hades but csgo music kit did not fall into my inventory
thorny mirage
does dire misfortune work with chiron special or no
rustic vale
Yes
thorny mirage
I mean like
Something worth taking dire misfortune
It doesn’t hurt but I never feel like it does anythinf
raw herald
It’s one of the best use cases for dire misfortune
old dawn
dire misfortune + ares special on chiron gives decent doom damage
rustic vale
Preferably the enemy is already dead before the doom has a chance to drop though
brisk trail
whats some good duos for exagryph?
rustic vale
whats some good duos for exagryph?
Smouldering Air
rustic vale
Dio or zeus call preferably
old dawn
aphro special is just one example
rustic vale
Aphro special is preferable
old dawn
on hestia you can go aphro atk and zeus call for smair i think
rustic vale
Yup
old dawn
instead
rustic vale
And on eris you can go dio strike aphro special zeus call
old dawn
lotsa combos
rustic vale
Hesty also can go heart rend
old dawn
heart rend my behated
rustic vale
Artemis on attack or special -> aphrodite on attack or special
old dawn
never appears
rustic vale
Artemis on attack or special -> aphrodite on attack or special
Vice versa
meager dune
I don’t know if I’m just unlucky but I still don’t have the hidden aspect for the shield yet but I have other hidden aspect unlock. I just finished epilogue for the story yesterday and been trying to get dialogue to pop up and unlock the last weapon I still don’t have.
rustic vale
I don’t know if I’m just unlucky but I still don’t have the hidden aspect for th...
Do you have 5 titans blood in shield aspects?
Has chaos commented on your use of the shield while talking to him?
crisp summit
Do you take chaos? (U should)
meager dune
Been trying man.
rustic vale
Those 2 things need to happen before chaos will give awakening phrase
meager dune
I have Zeus shield and Chaos Shield at level 4.
rustic vale
Rng dialogue time
You gotta get him to comment on your use of the shield while using the shield before he’ll give awakening phrase
meager dune
I’m just going to make sure to go to see Chaos every run that I do today and do more some Shield run and hopefully that I get luck out on rng today hopefully.
latent moon
Chaos makes a comment if you use their aspect right
So would using their aspect add more dialogue into the dialogue pool lmao
Or is the comments Ike a 1 time thing
rustic vale
I think it’s one time
cyan jolt
Nice just got a new pb with eris
native blade
Nice just got a new pb with eris
Nooooice
cyan jolt
I feel like I played really well but somehow didn't get sub 10
Also how are people so fast with the aspect of hera
rustic vale
Practice
cyan jolt
Whenever I try it the casts get stuck on the foes so I practically can't do any damage for 5 secs
rustic vale
Well uh
raw herald
Usually that shouldn’t be happening
rustic vale
The enemies should be dying
raw herald
Just need more damage
rustic vale
If the casts are getting stuck that’s a build issue
latent moon
you dont need spawn manips for sub10
cyan jolt
If the casts are getting stuck that’s a build issue
I use aprho
Most of the times I get 4 casts early
latent moon
a lot of it comes down build, enemy grouping, and pathing
cyan jolt
Does forced overtime 2 make a big enough difference
I played with tier one enabled but without tier 2 since I have trouble with that
native blade
Yes, yes it does.
cyan jolt
Would it shave of 2 minutes
native blade
Would it shave of 2 minutes
Yep.
native blade
Damn indeed.
cyan jolt
But How do I play the aspect of hera effectively
Because I'm probably doing something wrong
latent moon
Would it shave of 2 minutes
idk about 2 minutes
but it would help a considerable amount
cyan jolt
I was already using forced overtime 1
thorny mirage
Does forced overtime 2 make a big enough difference
well yeah, the faster that enemies spawn the faster you can kill em dead
old dawn
when you make the very weird choice to go earring for ely and it works lmao
latent moon
could add another minute from the jumpy asphodel bastards
taking fo1 is honestly fine and can get a sub10 with
sub10 icy flare
old dawn
could add another minute from the jumpy asphodel bastards
this so hard
stone rune
could add another minute from the jumpy asphodel bastards
xestija stays winning 💪
slim geyser
But How do I play the aspect of hera effectively
brisk trail
Hmm I think outside of FO1/2 I might finally know enemy mechanics enough to confidently take High Confidence over Thick Skin
warm shoal
doees anyone know any tips or tricks for faster runs
brisk trail
doees anyone know any tips or tricks for faster runs
EM2 makes lernie room smaller, FO2 makes enemies spawn faster
If you want RTA, also take TD0 to avoid Survival Rooms, but Survival rooms are good for IGT since they dont count toward victory screen timer
native blade
Damn, I never even thought of that.
warm shoal
true
latent moon
Hmm I think outside of FO1/2 I might finally know enemy mechanics enough to conf...
your last run had 2 DDs left lmao you're chilling
take HC
native blade
Hmm I think outside of FO1/2 I might finally know enemy mechanics enough to conf...
At what heat?
brisk trail
your last run had 2 DDs left lmao you're chilling
ayy ty at least for darkness farming (and speedrunning) and low heat I'll take HC
latent moon
HC is generally taken for speedrunning because it's all about damage, but outside of speedrunning, thick skin is just more reliable
native blade
<a:birb:595802012063367169>ayy ty at least for darkness farming (and speedrunnin...
Yeah, I’ve been using it all this time and I can at least vouch for it in low heat.
brisk trail
yeah when you're on high heat LC4 and using stubborn defiance to heal, you obviously dont want HC you'll never use it
latent moon
lc4 HC based tho ngl
native blade
HC is generally taken for speedrunning because it's all about damage, but outsid...
It’s quite fun too.
old dawn
:^)
latent moon
will HC ever be active outside of tart? probably not but it would be funny to take
old dawn
style points 7777
native blade
It’s the ultimate flex if u win.
latent moon
where's that screenshot of someone beating 32 heat with lvl 1 guan yu on HC
native blade
…
crisp summit
whats a less stressful heat combo to add to 10 heat, DC1+TD1 or BP1
native blade
whats a less stressful heat combo to add to 10 heat, DC1+TD1 or BP1
Benefits Package.
latent moon
td1 is a 36 minute run isn't it lmao
although
dc1 would slow you down
if your times are like ~25 minutes you should be fine
depending what the other pacts are
high island
Yes.
native blade
ourple hyper sprint or blue reflex
Hypersprint.
high island
Depends on weapon a bit. I'd usually grab Greatest Reflex there.
But Hyper Sprint is good, too.
high island
Side Hustle is cope pick.
high island
Don't get overconfident.
high island
That's just regular Lernie.
stone rune
i literally have 4 boons rn
looks like divine dash gotta go
nope
cant bear it
goodbye purple artemis flourish
stone rune
5 min on rn
high island
Just grab Acorn and go.
high island
I mean if you want the same thing but worse, sure, take Collar lol.
I'd take Hazard.
high island
Zeus' Aid never bad.
stone rune
well i need something to seell
high island
Might get Smair.
stone rune
ig ill sell some weird aph thing
high island
Sounding like a heretic right now.
native blade
empty inside is amazing and great
Screenshotting this.
native blade
Hestia gud.
Hestia best goddess confirmed.
high island
No.
stone rune
APH CLEARS
high island
Lady Aphrodite is obviously the best.
stone rune
zag is simply not permissed the wielding of the aspect of aphrodite
he's not wondrous enough
native blade
Lady Aphrodite is obviously the best.
Why not both?
high island
Heresy.
native blade
he's not wondrous enough
He lacks sufficient rizz.
stone rune
alrighty then
it's time to get filling out my bounties
what keepsakes should i use for asneezelles
native blade
what keepsakes should i use for asneezelles
You need a minute?
stone rune
?
stone rune
achilles
stone rune
eh its 20 heat i dont need a good build
native blade
Go Pom, that works on everything.
gray apex
Start Poseidon
native blade
Oh? Pos is gud with Achilles?
topaz cosmos
Concentrated Volley or Relentless Volley with Artemis Special on Chiron? Concentrated, right?
gray apex
Yes
stone rune
concentrated
topaz cosmos
Was almost positive, thanks!
gray apex
Oh? Pos is gud with Achilles?
Very good, go for Tidal Dash
stone rune
do i want infernal or stygian for achoolles
gray apex
Infernal generally
native blade
do i want infernal or stygian for achoolles
…
topaz cosmos
This has been a run. I'm on a "don't operate heavy equipment" prescription, beat Tis with 0:00 on the clock, beat Lernie with 1 health. We'll see how Asterius and the other guy goes
native blade
You’re doing this deliberately aren’tcha?
stone rune
Very good, go for Tidal Dash
after splash dash wtf else do i put on
gray apex
Look for Artemis or Zeus Attack and a strong Cast + Call
native blade
This has been a run. I'm on a "don't operate heavy equipment" prescription, beat...
Gl, sounds fun. 😆
gray apex
what's strong
For the Cast, Athena Ares Dio are good, Demeter is good if you go for Crystal Clarity, Crush Shot also very solid. For your Call, Dio Zeus Athena all gud, the rest not so great, Poseidon Call is solid but you might want other stuff from him
topaz cosmos
Gl, sounds fun. 😆
Thanks! Tons of fun 😁
gray apex
With Athena you can go for Lightning Phalanx, with Ares Hunting Blades and with Crush Shot you can go for Snow Burst
Lots of options
stone rune
lets hope i can do this erebus
native blade
lets hope i can do this erebus
How successful are you on Erebus usually?
native blade
F.
stone rune
aren't erebus gates not uspposed to give you grey
gray apex
Roll it
gray apex
Unfortunate
stone rune
i assume vicious or extending
gray apex
Yes
stone rune
normally you'd want flurry right
stone rune
im not feeling too fond of this fella
native blade
im not feeling too fond of this fella
F.
brisk trail
i had a run that makes me actually wanna kms
rough bough
How festive fog works?
brisk trail
i took the charon fight and forgot i had a chaos boon that damages me when i attack
native blade
i took the charon fight and forgot i had a chaos boon that damages me when i att...
Pffft.
rough bough
How festive fog works?
Is it just aoe damage over time?
native blade
Is it just aoe damage over time?
Nah it’s burst dmg with stun.
Go on.
Oh yeah, I knew that, it’s perfect for clearing those pests.
rustic vale
How festive fog works?
Burst damage with a repeating stun
solar vault
yes
native blade
The McHades happy meal
That’s better.
brisk trail
who has the best cast in the game
brisk trail
best for hera then
rustic vale
Hera would be either Crush Shot or Phalanx shot
brisk trail
ok uuuuh
rustic vale
Eh
brisk trail
what about on poseidon
rustic vale
At least arte lets you keep boiling blood
Aspect of Poseidon, phalanx shot with crush shot begind it
Hunting blades is more of a thing then meme beams
rustic vale
Yeah
Zeus+ Athena duo boon
You need a zeus core and phalanx shot
Lets phalanx shot bounce between enemies
brisk trail
phalanx shot right off the bat heeheeheehaw
core boons are dash, attack, and special right?
rustic vale
oh and zeus call would count as well
brisk trail
even better
stone rune
core boons are dash, attack, and special right?
and cast ?
brisk trail
whos special does the best on poseidon
latent moon
pos sword, going for lightning phalanx?
either athena or zeus because you dont want to open up random duos
ares would be fine assuming you dont get athena atk
brisk trail
rn ive got poseidon on my special bc everything else sucked but i doubt its gonna work well for long
prob gonna purge
brisk trail
hermes loves me
stone rune
we have a lot of aspects here
brisk trail
epic flurry cast baybee
latent moon
i had this nickname before some of these people lmao
raw herald
hades II best keepsake
latent moon
true
stone rune
arthur ez
stone rune
APH SSSSSSS
holy wow
idk who told me achilles was good
but why didnt you say hera
this is so much more fun
i do 1000 dmg attacks on the regular
rustic vale
But what is killing zagreus at persephone's garden?
He’s out of time
brisk trail
But what is killing zagreus at persephone's garden?
hernia
brisk trail
he quite literally gets home sick
stone rune
But what is killing zagreus at persephone's garden?
he never poops so when he leaves he has extreme constipation
solar vault
cursed by the fates to be unable to keep existing on the surface
wispy hound
I mean post credits
rustic vale
The same reason
wispy hound
He clearly gets killed by SOMETHING
stone rune
well
solar vault
oh it's the same thing the narrator just makes things up for fun
stone rune
a motor vehicle
rustic vale
A bear
solar vault
a goat
stone rune
god's drunkest driver
solar vault
a nice pool which somebody asks him to jump into and he says sure
wispy hound
god's drunkest driver
Let me make one thing straight
rustic vale
Etcetera
native blade
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/764541705403760700/1063994482183385109/im...
I feel like Demeter’s better? Am I wrong?
wispy hound
It isn't the drunk driver's fault that drunk crashers gave them such a nasty reputation
rustic vale
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/764541705403760700/1063994482183385109/im...
Is this strength or looks?
native blade
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/764541705403760700/1063994482183385109/im...
What makes Dio and Ares S tier?
native blade
Is this strength or looks?
If it’s looks things make a lot more sense.
wispy hound
Is this strength or looks?
Clearly based on looks because they slandered Artemis hard
native blade
But Demeter’s gonna turn someone into crushed ice.
stone rune
well then clearly artemis is still winning
native blade
^
stone rune
zeus is crusty as hell
native blade
I feel like Aunt Dite’s S-tier tho?
native blade
Castspects be like that.
wispy hound
I am mad zagreus doesn't ask Achilles abou his heel or theseus about his ship
native blade
I am mad zagreus doesn't ask Achilles abou his heel or theseus about his ship
Well, those are sensitive subjects ya know.
solar vault
I mean I think he probably doesn't know about them lol
he didn't know about orpheus and eurydice before meeting them
wispy hound
I was genuinely bamboozled to find out orpheuswas a man
rustic vale
A surprising amount of people say that tbh
wispy hound
It's most likely my lack of mythos knowledge
brisk trail
i would die for an egyptian mythos spinoff
rustic vale
Hades but it’s {insert any other cultures mythology here}
brisk trail
hades but with christian mythology so every boon comes from a biblically accurate angel
rustic vale
Fight Jesus at the end of the run
Hit the earth, die and respawn
It kind of doesn’t work
brisk trail
as someone who goes to church i think that would be hilarious
native blade
I was genuinely bamboozled to find out orpheuswas a man
Same, that is a beautiful voice.
native blade
i would die for an egyptian mythos spinoff
Same.
native blade
hades but with christian mythology so every boon comes from a biblically accurat...
I’d be so down for that.
stuck pier
tried 32 Heat, I lost my first Death Defied Stack halfway thru Tartarus
guess I'll have to be satisfied never getting the 3rd Skelly statue
native blade
Fight Jesus at the end of the run
Nah bro, u play as Jesus.
brisk trail
final boss is the red sea
native blade
Both of orpheus VA’s are male btw
Ik, they’re really good.
rustic vale
tried 32 Heat, I lost my first Death Defied Stack halfway thru Tartarus
Tbh the issue is you’re running death defiance at 32 heat
stuck pier
Tbh the issue is you’re running death defiance at 32 heat <:shadesmile:520447982...
What do you mean, I thought you're supposed to use Death Defiance
native blade
guess I'll have to be satisfied never getting the 3rd Skelly statue
Eventually, I cheesed mine tho.
tall trench
Switched to SD when I started 32 and don't think I could do it without SD
rustic vale
Running lasting conditions 4 and stubborn defaince is actually a lot easier then using death defiances and other pact options
native blade
What do you mean, I thought you're supposed to use Death Defiance
Stubborn Defiance becomes the better choice in higher heat.
tall trench
32 dd way better unless ur doing lc4 for some reason
Am, in fact, doing LC4
stone rune
why
rustic vale
32 dd way better unless ur doing lc4 for some reason
Lc4 is the reason because it’s a lot cheaper then your other options
stone rune
sicko
rustic vale
It’s way way cheaper then the other options
tall trench
Lol it's the recommended 32 heat pact in the channel
stone rune
welp
stone rune
Lol it's the recommended 32 heat pact in the channel
don't care, i cleared 1024 heat 50 times in a row
tall trench
Why would you not increase heat before the streak got that big wtf
rustic vale
don't care, i cleared 1024 heat 50 times in a row
Record it
rustic vale
do it slower
stone rune
how
tall trench
You can't just ask a gamer to play slower
tall trench
Eventually, I cheesed mine tho.
how cheese statue
stone rune
no
slim geyser
wait can you technically get three gods in one shop if you get a mystery, one god, and then one on the door?
stone rune
You’re at 1176 heat then
how
tall trench
wait can you technically get three gods in one shop if you get a mystery, one go...
what exactly is the doo slot
rustic vale
what exactly is the doo slot
Door
stone rune
Because of how td increases
wel
the devs actually stopped bothering
so 1024 heat is just 16*64 heat
tall trench
well that would still be 2 gods in one shop, just adjacent to a 3rd
native blade
how cheese statue
Save trade.
rustic vale
Td48 would work out to 1176
rustic vale
As someone who has beaten 1176 heat I assure you it doesn’t
stone rune
As someone who has beaten 1176 heat I assure you it doesn’t
i've done 2048 heat as well
slim geyser
well that would still be 2 gods in one shop, just adjacent to a 3rd
well yeah but still
could you