it has to be chiron
#h1-discussion
strong ridge
high island
Hera sucks at high heat.
rustic vale
Hera has to be better then chiron surely
carmine cloak
Now that I think about it.
With Exploding Launcher it's basically Guan Yu without the HP cut.
rustic vale
With Exploding Launcher it's basically Guan Yu without the HP cut.
Not really
Has worse aoe
latent moon
Hera has to be better then chiron surely
Hera falls off on heat doesn't it
high island
Chiron can be amazing for high heat, just inconsistent.
latent moon
So it's not that much of a surprise
high island
Hera starts falling off hard at like 32 already ngl.
strong ridge
Chiron can be amazing for high heat, just inconsistent.
i feel like this sums up high heat to a degree
carmine cloak
Does anyone think Hypnos is a mood?
cosmic berry
i beat the game again with this trash build
5 out of the 10 completed runs have been done
carmine cloak
At low heat it doesn't take much to beat the game.
high island
Hypnos always gives excellent advice.
carmine cloak
Also it's possible your build is not as trash as you think.
"That thing you did that made you die? Don't do that next time."
rustic vale
Build everything on every weapon/aspect and clear so you can have an exemplary photo for every occasion
brazen aspen
ahghghgh 10 seconds to fight hades 41 heat
cosmic berry
its a horrible build
brazen aspen
5 sack T_T
rustic vale
Hunting blades hera
high island
That's Zag Bow.
carmine cloak
Flurry Shot with Chain Shot with Zagbow isn't actually all that bad tho?
tulip pumice
carmine cloak
Including epilogue?
carmine cloak
I mean it's not a chef's kiss build but I can see why you won.
cosmic berry
what does scuffed mean
high island
Imagine that build... but with a good second hammer instead of Chain Shot.
hardy spear
far from perfect
high island
cosmic berry
Build looks great until Chain Shot. I have to deduct points for that.
im a chain shot enjoyer 
i couldve gone flurry shot trio shot
but
chain shot is best 
rustic vale
Chain shot is abyssmal
carmine cloak
Hitting additional targets without having to aim is that bad?
high island
I mean, just aim. 
carmine cloak
I can't.
cosmic berry
i think im beating the story too fast
high island
You can do anything you set your mind to.
cosmic berry
ive beat hades 5 times and only now hes giving me dialogue abt the bull of minos
i think im supposed to be dying at the bull of minos right now
ive only attempted 31 escapes
high island
There's no beating the story "too fast".
haughty bloom
what is an infernal trove
carmine cloak
I mean some dialog gets pushed further down the dialog queue so some conversations feel less natural when they happen later.
But it's not the biggest problem evar.
high island
what is an infernal trove
Treasure chest. Need to fight enemies to get the reward.
haughty bloom
Treasure chest. Need to fight enemies to get the reward.
ty once again boss
hardy spear
ive only attempted 31 escapes
i think i got my 10 wins at around 40 attempts thats definitely not too fast
also what hammers does zag bow even want
huh
carmine cloak
You were really bad before?
rustic vale
also what hammers does zag bow even want
Twin / triple > perfect or point blank or flurry > everything else
hardy spear
plus flurry
yeah thought so
flurry kinda funky
ive been zag bowing
wouldve gotten a sub 10 but 4 sack 
rustic vale
Zag bow my only sub10
carmine cloak
I unlocked Hestia, this seems like a good opportunity to max out the shackle.
high island
I'd take Flurry over Perfect and Point-Blank against EM4 tbh. But otherwise Perfect and Point-Blank over Flurry.
high island
10:00.00 != sub10
Okay but what if it's 9:60. That's sub 10.
rustic vale
Okay but what if it's 9:60. That's sub 10.
Facts
hardy spear
just get a better boon%
tired karma
She said to not say a word.
I said finally in my mind
haughty bloom
if i take triple shot will it change how i charge up my basic attack on bow?
or would explosive be better
gray apex
if i take triple shot will it change how i charge up my basic attack on bow?
If you mean the speed no
brisk trail
Hi is there a way to make it so that Approval Process doesn't remove the best boon each time? 
gray apex
Generally Triple is better than Explosive
how how
brisk trail
brisk trail
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/753360819479380171/1058144839721549834/...
what biome
brazen aspen
tart
brisk trail
favor
brazen aspen
thx
brisk trail
np np
rustic vale
Hi is there a way to make it so that Approval Process doesn't remove the best bo...
Routing
gray apex
Needs more context tbh
brazen aspen
omg
what's the thingy where the enemies can give each other those blue shields?
anyway, just had a room full of numbskulls with that perk. 20 frickin numbskulls each with 5 shields on them constantly regeneratin
and im on hestia rail
i died.
to numbskulls in tartarus T_T
i have FO2 so i can't even hit my special
carmine cloak
Ok what was meant to be my first Hestia run but became a Zagreus run is saved.
raw herald
Oh dang
cosmic berry
guys
ik u want triple shot with zag bow'
but
what if i hate triple shot
should i take explosive shot or point blank shot instead/
haughty bloom
first time dying on theseus yikes now i have to run the entire thing again with bow
gray apex
should i take explosive shot or point blank shot instead/
You can take either and hope for Twin second
cosmic berry
ok
cosmic berry
its just soooo slow
if explosive werent so slow i would take it
and
triple feels weird
high island
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/753360819479380171/1058144839721549834/...
Assault is great on Hestia. Not quite Strike or Lunge but still great. Hestia wants any of those three or Flourish.
high island
anyway, just had a room full of numbskulls with that perk. 20 frickin numbskulls...
Just play like regular rail when you fight Savior Numbskulls. And use your Special for AOE.
brazen aspen
yah, they were jsut so fast, not used to it
41 heat is proving to be very difficult
my one good run was screwed up by 5sack :c
high island
what if i hate triple shot
Maybe like... try to like the good hammers more and the bad hammers less.
If it feels weird, just have more practice with it.
Eventually it'll feel natural.
cosmic berry
ok
strong ridge
you just put it right up on them
high island
Nice thing about Triple is you maintain the range while also getting some AOE and also gain the ability to shotgun for massive damage.
You usually shotgun big enemies and attack the smaller ones normally.
brazen aspen
can night spindle overflow the 5 limit of the summon
and is it worth 72 gold?
ive never really used summons since i just unlocked it
also, does yarn give heroic if i have exclusive access?
high island
can night spindle overflow the 5 limit of the summon
Yes.
high island
and is it worth 72 gold?
Sometimes.
high island
also, does yarn give heroic if i have exclusive access?
No.
high island
The only effect will be increased chance for duo/legendary.
tough mesa
anyone got tips on beating [redacted] on EM4?
fervent jewel
i bought the yarn and theseus reacted to it lol
high island
anyone got tips on beating [redacted] on EM4?
tough mesa
https://docs.google.com/document/d/126vagPhjSWQMR1x8O9tJT3neweSTdUUfw2pNVjqX7lU/...
oh nice, thanks a lot!
proven kernel
:C
anyways wish me luck, im fighting meg with bow and like 70/100 hp for titans blood
i did it 😄
double arrow shot op
high island
Twin Shot is great, yeah.
proven kernel
and i have zeus on my attack
high island
That one's not great.
bronze forge
What’s a summon and how do you get one
high island
You're better off purging Lightning Strike now before Asphodel and getting a % Attack.
cosmic berry
is epic swift strike good?
high island
On what?
cosmic berry
nvm
carmine cloak
Ok so now I'm back on Zag bow. I'm kinda tempted to do a Poseidon start to increase my odds of getting good resources, and just use the shackle to compensate until I maybe get a build together.
high island
Don't replace it.
high island
Ok so now I'm back on Zag bow. I'm kinda tempted to do a Poseidon start to incre...
Tidal Dash start is speedrun meta on Zag Bow anyway.
rustic vale
“Avoid melee”?
high island
I mean, don't avoid melee range lol.
carmine cloak
I mean, I have a bow what am I in their face for?
proven kernel
EXCUSE ME THE BARGE OF DEATH?
cosmic berry
do different league and bronze skin form a duo boon?
high island
Tidal Dash speeds up Tartarus a lot and just generally adds good damage.
proven kernel
WHAT?
cosmic berry
they seem very compatible
rustic vale
I mean, I have a bow what am I in their face for?
Dps
Best hammers for zag make you melee
high island
I mean, I have a bow what am I in their face for?
Dash-Strike and then dash into them to finish them off.
high island
do different league and bronze skin form a duo boon?
No.
carmine cloak
Do I dare run God's Legacy to increase the odds of getting huge catch?
high island
Duo Boon requirements are mostly core boons.
Core boons meaning the five slots on the left.
Attack, Special, etc.
high island
Do I dare run God's Legacy to increase the odds of getting huge catch?
If you want to, sure.
high island
It's a barge that carries the dead.
proven kernel
eeeeeee
high island
Not to be confused with the dad.
proven kernel
i am almost dead
HOLY HECKING LEFTY DOODLE
I LIVED
AT LIKE 4 HP
im at 2 hp
AH
I DIED TO THE BIG ROCK
damn
hypnos got rejected
hey uh nya
i have a question
high island
?
proven kernel
so
carmine cloak
Hi almost dead.
proven kernel
i have 2 titans blood
carmine cloak
I'm Manock.
proven kernel
should i upgrade the fists to demeters or upgrade somethin else
carmine cloak
I'd start with unlocking every non-hidden aspect.
high island
My newbie aspect leveling guide is pinned in #h1-for-new-players. You can refer to that.
cosmic berry
would yall take hunters mark common, or a rare clean kill?
carmine cloak
But that's just me.
high island
Hunter's Mark way better.
cosmic berry
im abt to fight the minotaur and theseus
proven kernel
vrej?
proven kernel
what does that mean
rustic vale
Vrej = bruh… I think
proven kernel
oh
so is that a no?
then should i get chirons on the bow?
it seems pretty busted
carmine cloak
I really do recommend making your own choices.
rustic vale
Following the newbie levelling guide is a pretty solid idea though
proven kernel
after landing 12 hits my special hits more times, like on that one enemy or
for that whole run
rustic vale
after landing 12 hits my special hits more times, like on that one enemy or
For the next time you special
proven kernel
For the next time you special
oooo
carmine cloak
There's a lot to discover, and the game starts out very forgiving, so I would not fret over every choice, the game wants you to choose each thing at least once anyway.
high island
so is that a no?
It's a check pins in #h1-for-new-players for guide.
Keep in mind that all aspects are viable.
high island
Just because some are objectively weaker than others doesn't mean you can't do well with them or have more fun.
thorny mirage
More shields
carmine cloak
The value in green is the value that changes.
thorny mirage
and therefore
proven kernel
holy hell
proven kernel
im gonna farm titans blood one day and get like 60 shields thrown at once and crash my pc
carmine cloak
It maxes out at rank 5.
proven kernel
aw
thorny mirage
Why would it not cap out lmao
brisk trail
Is there a mod that can change biome order?
As in, things like putting Elysium before Asphodel?
polar basalt
anyone got any tips for the hades fight? I'm on like escape attempt 23 or smthin, (started a few days ago) I've gotten to hades 10-11 times, but I haven't been able to beat him yet
thorny mirage
anyone got any tips for the hades fight? I'm on like escape attempt 23 or smthin...
dodge
Give yourself space
Don’t let his casts hit you
Boiling blood can and will stack!
proven kernel
im now wondering to myself why i thought it would be a good idea to pick zeus's dash
brisk trail
wow i just died bc of chaos and they mocked me
wait i thought chaos thingies couldnt kill you, only bring yu to 1hp
polar basalt
Give yourself space
yeah I guess I gotta just take it slower
my last run I got him to like 10% on second phase, got greedy and got hit 3 times
thorny mirage
wait i thought chaos thingies couldnt kill you, only bring yu to 1hp
Yes but you tend to also get hit whilst playing the game
brazen aspen
anyone got any tips for the hades fight? I'm on like escape attempt 23 or smthin...
he has like 4 main attacks a few in between phases he does at hp thresholds. 1 where he shoots a flaming skull at you, 1 where he does 2 slahes into a big one, 1 where he jabs, and 1 where does a big sweep. they're all pretty obvious once you see the pattern and if you time your dash, you can get iframes and ignore everything
latent moon
Yes but you tend to also get hit whilst playing the game
Don't get hit lol
brazen aspen
wait i thought chaos thingies couldnt kill you, only bring yu to 1hp
i got hit with a chaos boon in effect
a witch teleported next to me T_T
proven kernel
ah.
high island
Is there a mod that can change biome order?
Not that I know of, but probably easy to make. Can ask in the modding discord. Link is pinned in #self-promotion.
brazen aspen
is there a mod that will let me practice hades fight?
latent moon
Probably
brazen aspen
need to learn FO2 timings
latent moon
Go ask in modding discord lol
thorny mirage
It’s meme build time
high island
wow i just died bc of chaos and they mocked me
Master Chaos's pronouns are they/them.
brazen aspen
mb
high island
anyone got any tips for the hades fight? I'm on like escape attempt 23 or smthin...
Collection of messages I've written about the fight. https://docs.google.com/document/d/137Vqe-8fvStMJ_HMlBKWwq3SVdoOED0lOpBBSmgGwtQ/edit
proven kernel
should i choose artemis or the centaur heart
brazen aspen
arty
proven kernel
ok
brazen aspen
unless you desparetly need the hp
brazen matrix
GG
cosmic berry
honestly
after your first time fighting him
hades is the easiest boss in the game
brazen matrix
Without EM, yes
proven kernel
i do love how charon in mythology is the guy who brings dead people to the underworld, in hades hes that and a shop keeper, and in PJTO he's an underpaid worker of hades
so many shades of charon
cosmic berry
Without EM, yes
is EM hades a lot harder?
proven kernel
whats EM?
brazen aspen
extreme measures
cosmic berry
extreme measures
proven kernel
ah
cosmic berry
i do love how charon in mythology is the guy who brings dead people to the under...
whats pjto?
topaz cosmos
Does the damage bonus from Achilles Spear apply to spin attacks or is it only regular attacks?
proven kernel
alright
cosmic berry
i just didnt recognize the acronymn
topaz cosmos
||Because you get it at 7||
cosmic berry
||Because you get it at 7||
how do i get through the lock for the 7th heart?
topaz cosmos
I think you just need to keep completing runs but I'm not positive
cosmic berry
how many more runs do i need to beat
latent moon
ive alr won 6 runs
That's not a lot tbh
cosmic berry
That's not a lot tbh
isnt 10 all you need for the ending though
topaz cosmos
I don't think you even need clears, just attempts so you can have more conversations
latent moon
Story ending but that's not enough for every characters storyline
cosmic berry
ok
topaz cosmos
But yeah, 10 is all you need but there's tons more. I didn't complete all of the stories until around 150 hours
carmine cloak
This game doesn't work a long "Do these X things and then Y happens."
It's more like "Once you meet X condition then Y will at some point happen."
There's some rng as well as what appears to be a priority queue.
So certain events are more likely to happen before others.
carmine cloak
I guess because premium vintage comes with a benefit that the game can't take back.
proven kernel
i have died to meg so much
carmine cloak
One thing I noticed that people feel so bad about dying in this game.
Well, some do.
proven kernel
dude this trader sucks
carmine cloak
You're not supposed to though. It's part of the game.
proven kernel
he never gives me any titans even tho i have like 20 keys
but when i have like
2
woop dee doo there it is
carmine cloak
Good thing you spent those keys on something that mattered then.
cosmic berry
does EM4 exist?
topaz cosmos
Yeah, you can't really rely on the trader. He's nice in post-game stuff when you end up with tons of certain resources but he's only okay until then
proven kernel
titans blood doesnt matter?
carmine cloak
EM4 is unlocked later.
cosmic berry
ok
topaz cosmos
Oh EM4 certainly exists
cosmic berry
imma try doing em3 for the achievement
haughty bloom
finally got my first clear after 23 attempts, feels good
cosmic berry
i want to 100% this game
carmine cloak
Not so much that you'd want to spend 15 keys on it when you can spend it on the mirror.
cosmic berry
Not so much that you'd want to spend 15 keys on it when you can spend it on the ...
em4 costs 15 keys?
topaz cosmos
Titans Blood matters but if you're at the point where you're complaining about this stuff you can unlock with keys probably matter sfor
carmine cloak
No I was talking to A Dude.
cosmic berry
oh
carmine cloak
Sorry.
cosmic berry
no dw
carmine cloak
Like literally anything that costs keys is better than Titan's blood. It just so happens that there's very few of those things over all.
proven kernel
is bone serpent boss of asphodel?
topaz cosmos
Yes
proven kernel
what does it mean per rank
topaz cosmos
Where?
carmine cloak
It means you can rank it up more than once.
proven kernel
in the mirror
topaz cosmos
You can buy it multiple times
carmine cloak
And gain the bonus that many times.
topaz cosmos
There is a cap though
proven kernel
still
topaz cosmos
So you can't spend all of your darkness on it lol. But yeah, it's super useful, especially early on while you're still learning how to dodge
proven kernel
also is the first upgrade for the blade of stygius good?
latent moon
Nemesis is good
carmine cloak
With regards to upgrading the titan weapons.
Just choose something that looks appealing.
proven kernel
With regards to upgrading the titan weapons.
titan weapons?
brazen aspen
yooo finally beat 40heat
latent moon
Based
proven kernel
oh thats what their called
brazen aspen
just barely though
proven kernel
oh
carmine cloak
They were used to slay titans tho. So my name isn't even accurate.
proven kernel
so to get the locked aspect you need to spend 5 titans blood right?
carmine cloak
No
proven kernel
oh./
brazen aspen
you play the game and advance in the story line for hidden aspects
carmine cloak
Aspects come in 5 ranks, and each rank requires a certain amount of titan blood.
brazen aspen
the locked ones cost between 5 and 15
proven kernel
o h .
carmine cloak
For Zagreus aspects it's 1 per rank, for other aspects it's quite a bit more.
proven kernel
so im guessing dio is constantly drunk
carmine cloak
I mean... That's how he was in the myths as well I think?
proven kernel
yea i think
chilly sonnet
After 280 total hours and almost 500 runs I have gotten all the badges and 100%ed this game
proven kernel
After 280 total hours and almost 500 runs I have gotten all the badges and 100%e...
gj!
chilly sonnet
Ready for hades 2 now please I need more
I want a 2023 release really bad but I’m gonna hedge my bets for 24 at the earliest
carmine cloak
I do not think I will be going for all the badges, but I'm very close to completing every bond.
chilly sonnet
Idk how long supergiant usually takes to release stuff
brazen aspen
same engine, similar gameplay, development should be considerably faster
chilly sonnet
True
I’m just suuuper looking forward to the new god powers and weapons they come up with
brazen aspen
judging by the promo vid, they already have a lot of the game done, prolly just finishing the last bits and polishing
carmine cloak
Unless they decide to revamp the engine and try to incorporate all the things they couldn't before.
chilly sonnet
Has it been revealed explicitly what the new protags main weapon is?
brazen aspen
magic!
carmine cloak
Which is a thing that frequently happens with sequels running on the same engine.
brazen aspen
Has it been revealed explicitly what the new protags main weapon is?
i think there was a crescent knife in the trailer
brazen aspen
(dont quote me)
carmine cloak
A crescent knife, like a sickle?
rustic vale
Hades 2 has it’s own channel btw
chilly sonnet
My dream weapon would be a bow that’s also used as a blade like pits bows from kid Icarus uprising but I doubt we’ll get that
Oh true
carmine cloak
Anyhoo.
haughty bloom
trying to borrow gold from kheron is not the play at the first shop
thorny mirage
Just finished a yoyo run
proven kernel
trying to borrow gold from kheron is not the play at the first shop
you can borrow gold?
rustic vale
Yes 
rustic vale
trying to borrow gold from kheron is not the play at the first shop
Tbh tart charon is the place I’m most likely to take bag
you get the most use out of it if you nab it in tartarus
proven kernel
the only boons i have rn are dionysus lmao
rustic vale
Make sure you’ve only got one source of hangover
rustic vale
Having more then one means they’ll override each other
rustic vale
yes
proven kernel
hm.
rustic vale
Because then the weaker effect can replace the stronger one
Damage loss
You really just want one source of hangover and put tons of poms on it
proven kernel
LOL
I STILL BEAT MEG
BULL RUSH FOR THE WIN
so
do i purge attack or dash
attack is level 3
mv,
nvm
im purging dash
cosmic berry
does charm work on bosses?
cosmic berry
so
rustic vale
im purging dash
👍
proven kernel
am i the only one who HATES ASPHODEL'S FIRE
latent moon
Full call is like 2500 damage or something
latent moon
Has magma
proven kernel
the lava
cosmic berry
so aspect
rustic vale
I’m fairly certain it doesn’t have lava either
cosmic berry
should i pick it?
rustic vale
should i pick it?
What are the other options?
cosmic berry
common crush shot and common wave of despair
rustic vale
take aphro aid
proven kernel
DUDE GORGONS SUCK
cosmic berry
yea
basically just
dash through gorgon shots and kill them on sight
guys
i did it
i beat em3 bull and theseus
tbh
theseus is way easier on em3
only the bull is harder
and thats only because he does a shockwave on axe leap
all u gotta do in the fight is beat the bull, then dodge the slow circle attacks and hide when he shoots arrows at you and then break theseus charot, then abuse his 2nd phase transformation time to kill him
rustic vale
and thats only because he does a shockwave on axe leap
No
The big danger from em3 asterius is beyblading
cosmic berry
didnt even have to use a dd
no not rlly
its easy to dodge
he tried using it on me
he did it once and i dodge it easy
rustic vale
Are you running fo2
cosmic berry
whats fo2
brazen aspen
Makes enemies move and attack 40% faster
which isn't a big deal until you realize it affects chariots and bosses too T_T
rustic vale
Beyblading is an issue for melee aspects as it basically locks them out of doing any damage for the duration
brazen aspen
gl :3
brazen aspen
remeber to dodge
proven kernel
NOOOOOOOOOOOO
I WAS SO CLOSE
ONE MORE HEAD DESTROYED THEN I COULD BEAT IT UP AND WIN
:C
strong ridge
dogde check fail
proven kernel
dogde check fail
i dodged into the lava
cosmic berry
would yall take epic urge to kill or would yall take rare blood frenzy
im in styx
but i only have 1 dd left
latent moon
Blood frenzy is more damage after DD right
Might as well take it because you're likely to use it
proven kernel
who else hates doomstone with a passon
cosmic berry
doom stone is ez
proven kernel
just annoying
latent moon
urge to kill is 16% more dmg to everything
Oh that's also good I mistook it for something else
What aspect is this
latent moon
What's the percent for blood frenzy
latent moon
I'd take urge to kill tbh
cosmic berry
I'd take urge to kill tbh
i did take urge to kill
latent moon
Nice
latent moon
want me to show u the build?
Could send it to #h1-victory-boasting
cosmic berry
ok
latent moon
Just kill her tbh
cosmic berry
would yall trade 100 gems for a diamond?
also
would yall buy vanquishers keep or would yall buy erebus gate?
I only have 4 diamond
what do erebus gates do
what if u get hit?
proven kernel
ok so guys
i have the choice between ares and zeus room
or charon
i have 97 coins
uh
lemme check
aspect is zag stygian
i have dio attack and zeus call
pretty sure hermes passive for call
trial of the gods
thunder flourish thunder dash and static discharge
i think flourish
aaaand i died
so if i beat megaera with all the weapons and got titans blood, do i still get titans blood from alecto?
rich horizon
I just had to do all of the tunnels to get the satyr sack???
rich horizon
wtf this has never happened to me before in 110+ hours of playtime
cosmic berry
bro
it happens
the tunnel the sack is in is rng based
i think it happened to me the first time i got to styx
rich horizon
I mean, it's never happened to me before so logically I assumed that it would always happen somewhere between the second and fourth tunnels.
cosmic berry
lol
proven kernel
also yall
my relationship with dusa has evolved so far she doesnt run away when i talk to her
out of context
that sounds horrible
rich horizon
yeah it's literally never happened to me before
cosmic berry
me too
rustic vale
wtf this has never happened to me before in 110+ hours of playtime
It’s like a 2% or 3% chance iirc
rustic vale
For me, 5 times, can buy more from charon wells
When you initially get it, it’s one use and you can buy more from charon wells but can upgrade use # with ambrosia
cosmic berry
is it worth it getting and epic deadly flourish so that you can get the duo boon from aphrodite?
rustic vale
For what
rustic vale
Yes
ionic minnow
BRO HE just got arrested on those charges 2 hours ago
Google it
@tired karma https://prnt.sc/4pk-k5jIepbX
manic kraken
it doesn’t show anything
ionic minnow
There fixed
ionic minnow
So please tell me more about how his "human trafficking charges were dropped" @tired karma
manic kraken
He admitted to it so
He also said he lives in Romania bc the# police are corrupt there
Not corrupt enough ig
Anyways back to hades
ionic minnow
Smh
manic kraken
yeah someone go teach an ai to make hades decisions
ionic minnow
And ye back to Hades, just glad that man is finally arrested
latent moon
is it worth getting heart rend on maxed zag bow
Shouldn't you have deadly strike anyways
Wait wrong reply
But you should have deadly strike to open heart rend anyways
cosmic berry
<@364430469019860992> https://prnt.sc/4pk-k5jIepbX
its funny cuz apparently it happened because he responded to greta thunberg with a pizza box in his response
latent moon
And passion dash
cosmic berry
police were able to locate where he was cuz of the pizza box
proven kernel
problem is i cant send pictures
but basically the question is what should i get before bone serpent from charon
cosmic berry
get gems
proven kernel
also i have 154
cosmic berry
and
proven kernel
the gems are 75
cosmic berry
do you have a lot of dio boons?
proven kernel
i cant
cosmic berry
get gems and dio
proven kernel
i cant.
latent moon
Why gems
cosmic berry
how many coins do you have
cosmic berry
Why gems
gems are permanent
and it sounds like he is new enough to not be able to beat this run
cosmic berry
so he probably still has a lot of gem upgrades
latent moon
Gems aren't that important frankly
cosmic berry
thanks for the faith dude
asphodel is hard and then you have the other area and the final boss
latent moon
I'd buy a pom
proven kernel
asphodel is hard and then you have the other area and the final boss
im deffo not getting to hades but ok
manic kraken
Nah keep going
proven kernel
yes but WHAT DO I GET
manic kraken
pom probably
proven kernel
ty
latent moon
Bruh I said to get a pom lmao
proven kernel
i needed 2 opinions and i was tired at this point
latent moon
latent moon
Bone hydra isn't too hard yeah
brazen aspen
skelly just tricked me to spend 5 titan blood
i dont really care abt the titan blood but he made pick up the sword 🤮
skelly has gone too far
livid pulsar
got out of tart with 0 seconds left on TD :)
not worried about aspho at all
it's not like, the most annoying area
livid pulsar
your health slowly ticks down until you kill the area boss
cosmic berry
whats the max rank for gods pride?
livid pulsar
but hey i got like, 90 gems
it will be so useful
20% iirc
yay i got the duo i want room 3 aspho
fated authority is good actually
cosmic berry
does lasting consequences affect the styx fountain?
livid pulsar
yes
ALL sources of healing
even the hermes boon that makes you remover health on dash
sand hearth
so i picked up hades recently and i love it =D using cursed-slash i made it to thanatos
cosmic berry
https://tenor.com/view/matrix-the-agents-know-dont-gif-18536773
?
wdym
what doesnt he know
dm me
livid pulsar
thanatos can show up at any moment even super early in the run
manic kraken
iirc just means there’s a chance I’m wrong so don’t make fun of me if I am
livid pulsar
op with quick slash
use it with arthur the extra hp offsets the reduction and it's really strong
sand hearth
thanatos can show up at any moment even super early in the run
Oh-
ok so i was able to make it past asphodel with the thing
cosmic berry
is this game hard to 100% achievemeents
livid pulsar
not hard just takes a while
the hardest ones are 16 heat run and at least one run with each pact of punishment condition and those are pretty easy as far as Hades challenges go
the one that takes the longest is "one for the ages" and by the time you get this you'll likely have most if not all the others
high island
Cursed Slash is just -60% HP with no benefits at high level sword play because the lifesteal doesn't apply to Dash-Attacks and we literally never use the standing Attack combo.
manic kraken
did you mean to send that in a different channel
high island
But it's also carried some players through their first clears.
high island
did you mean to send that in a different channel
No.
manic kraken
oh
livid pulsar
yeah but for a new player it's really strong, at least it lets you see the later areas before the game hits you with the 'ol reality fist
polar basalt
I'm sad
cosmic berry
im trying to get the butterfly keepsake to 30% achievement rn
i dont think ill be able to get it this run
polar basalt
I was so close to first hades clear he was like 4 hits away 😦
cosmic berry
I was so close to first hades clear he was like 4 hits away 😦
never get greedy in this game unless u can afford it
livid pulsar
im trying to get the butterfly keepsake to 30% achievement rn
tip: athena boons and hestia rail
cosmic berry
tip: athena boons and hestia rail
im using the legendary athena boon and have her dash
divine protection
polar basalt
never get greedy in this game unless u can afford it
I didn't get greedy, I was behind a pillar dodging an attack and two of the skull things that summon the waves went off without me noticing and didn't react fast enough to dodge them
polar basalt
ye
if I had a maxed out eurydale keepsake it woulda been a clear
could've tanked 1 more hit and would've killed him but keepsake only lvl 2 so I only got 4 from it
big sad
livid pulsar
off
polar basalt
but I am gonna try more runs with hera bow because it was even easier than shield w/ special doom
high island
was cursed slash just further up in here
Really not that far up. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/630312677855461377/1058218441380732938/Screenshot_2022-12-30-04-01-36-96_572064f74bd5f9fa804b05334aa4f912.jpg
manic kraken
yeah mb
livid pulsar
just realized i got to styx and forgot to summon once so i'll just have meg kill some satyr for me
manic kraken
I thought it was a different channel for some reason
it’s bc I was looking between a few channels
bored at the airport rn
cosmic berry
Really not that far up. <:tizomg:456913427588317184> https://media.discordapp.ne...
also
chain shot is good for spreading doom
im using a build based on that rn
livid pulsar
chain shot is cool
livid pulsar
it goes zippy
cosmic berry
chain shot best
livid pulsar
it bounces
high island
I didn't get greedy, I was behind a pillar dodging an attack and two of the skul...
You don't need to get behind a pillar to evade the beams btw, you can stand right on top of him and just hack away at him. The beams can't hit you there.
manic kraken
fair
livid pulsar
chain shot is good with chiron cos it makes your special target a random enemy
adds an element of surprise
keeps you on your toes
cosmic berry
You don't need to get behind a pillar to evade the beams btw, you can stand righ...
its hard to pull of tbh
livid pulsar
You don't need to get behind a pillar to evade the beams btw, you can stand righ...
we call that the "hug your dad strat" and it's a go for pros, that's why Hades is the best game
high island
I mean if it's fun for you, it's fun for you. But it's objectively weaker than other attack hammers, with the exception of Sniper Shot, which does virtually nothing in every run I've seen that had it.
cosmic berry
would yall get hide breaker or would yall get support fire?
im using a doom build so ig support fire?
livid pulsar
support fire it opens for the legendary
cosmic berry
what legendary?
livid pulsar
artemis
high island
Like... The amount of times in a run that any enemies are actually within Sniper Shot range and get hit by an Attack can normally be counted on one hand. And often enough it's zero lol.
livid pulsar
the one i can never get
high island
would yall get hide breaker or would yall get support fire?
What's the third option?
cosmic berry
i dont use fully loaded
too late
i went support fire
anyways
if i get fully loaded ill sell for the achievement
livid pulsar
i remember using sniper shot for when i was trying to max out orphs keepsake but it's literally useless cos the sniper shot range is like, twice the orph keepsake range
and of course in the run i got both legendaries and the duo i die but with only the duo i escape
can't have fun in here
high island
You could have chosen to not die on the run that had both.
livid pulsar
indeed, i don't know why i didn't consider it at the time
must've been a lapse in my judgment
mom keepsake mvp leveling up a boon i'm not using at all after i kill dad, will help me in greece
high island
In the future, just follow Hypnos's advice and you'll be fine.
livid pulsar
yes
cosmic berry
its not counting for me
high island
It counts but only the final chamber in a tunnel.
livid pulsar
but i think each hallway is a encounter not each chamber
high island
The big one.
livid pulsar
2% actually
high island
Only the final chamber counts. Doesn't matter if you get hit in the mini chambers.
cosmic berry
oh
grizzled cedar
I finished the epilouge
livid pulsar
yay
grizzled cedar
kinda underwhelming
livid pulsar
nay
high island
A picture showing everyone together would have been lovely, yeah.
But it's quite wholesome anyway.
high island
Now get Unseen One rank.
grizzled cedar
its why I played this game in the first place
cosmic berry
got it to 25.5%
cosmic berry
at least its gonna be mad useful against hades
high island
@cosmic berry what weapon are you using? Zag Bow?
livid pulsar
I'll be back when hades 2 comes out
great news https://i.imgur.com/KN6D0Tp.png
cosmic berry
<@726138138816282665> what weapon are you using? Zag Bow?
yes
high island
Try max level Hestia if you can get it, for the Pierced Butterfly.
A lot easier than bow.
livid pulsar
now speedrun then 
cosmic berry
ive beat the game in 24 mins
livid pulsar
great this puts you in 1612 in the leaderboards, almost there
cosmic berry
damn
also guys
uhhhhh
whats the fastest clear of hades and
what happens after you beat the game after the 10th win?
livid pulsar
whats the fastest clear of hades and
2 minutes 48 seconds in game time
https://www.speedrun.com/hades/run/yle5j22z
15 min real time but that's not the one they use
livid pulsar
what happens after you beat the game after the 10th win?
ON the 10th win or AFTER the 10th win?
cosmic berry
ON the 10th win or AFTER the 10th win?
after
livid pulsar
goes on as normal
cosmic berry
2 minutes 48 seconds in game time
https://www.speedrun.com/hades/run/yle5j22z
hooow?
grizzled cedar
now speedrun then <:residentzag:580097451197857816>
My best time is 20:03
Pr proud of myself
livid pulsar
seeded run and hermes exploit
grizzled cedar
seeded run and hermes exploit
Um no?
cosmic berry
whats the fastest clear that is vanilla?
livid pulsar
it was 25 mins actually
oh so you did not beat this random greek dude https://i.imgur.com/EcjCBF2.png
livid pulsar
whats the fastest clear that is vanilla?
that is vanilla, just routed
latent moon
oh so you did not beat this random greek dude https://i.imgur.com/EcjCBF2.png
Are those igt or rta
livid pulsar
unseeded is 5m 18s
livid pulsar
Are those igt or rta
igt
latent moon
Oh lmao
cosmic berry
whats routed
livid pulsar
rta is 15 min something
latent moon
Rng manip and whatnot
latent moon
You know what the rewards are
livid pulsar
whats routed
they know exactly what rewards they'll get for each chamber
and can make a route for the run
that's how they get so speedy
manic kraken
me on my routed run leaving tart with hunting blades + ares and art legendaries
livid pulsar
hermes has a boon that increases your damage the more move speed you have, they stack a bunch of movespeed and one shot everything with cluster rocket rail
livid pulsar
me on my routed run leaving tart with hunting blades + ares and art legendaries
i actually got that and died on the final boss 
https://i.imgur.com/jmQIQ6k.png
grizzled cedar
I'm the 1603rd best speed runner
grizzled cedar
This elapsed time is the inn game time right?
manic kraken
yes
grizzled cedar
How do you do it 5 min 
manic kraken
Rush delivery
high island
rta is 15 min something
RTA WR is 12:30.
livid pulsar
my best run would be 1600 exactly
grizzled cedar
dam
livid pulsar
RTA WR is 12:30.
yeah i meant the time for that specific run
grizzled cedar
I'm pr close to you
livid pulsar
and rta record is on unseeded not seeded funnily enough
high island
Seeded is not a popular category.
livid pulsar
still more popular than fresh file runs, which is kinda sad i like watching fresh file runs
mostly because i'm completely incapable of doing one
snow skiff
every time I think of trying fresh file I remember that the wr holder has 5000 resets on fresh file alone
latent moon
How do you do it 5 min <:confused:773642729296756786>
A lot of practice and good rng lmao
Also use either Hera or Beowulf
Idk what other ones are capable of that, maybe eris
grizzled cedar
and how do you have that good aim with the bow?
latent moon
Croven uses controller so prob auto aim
grizzled cedar
I see
latent moon
Also a reason why flurry shot is best hera hammer
You're not punished for missing an unloaded shot
Git gud
granite kestrel
I got to the epilouge earlier today for the first time. 
now I wait for hades 2. Might try to get all the achievements though. It's easy stuff. Except maybe the 16 heat statue. But I think i can do it
latent moon
I tried that before but it couldn't lock on well in normal rooms lol
Prob because I was holding down m1 the whole time
snow skiff
bows are fake
latent moon
True
snow skiff
rama is so fake how do you get a 5:26 on that
it's like
you finish off an entire room at once
then you look at the timer and it was actually 40 seconds because you kept getting hitstunned
latent moon
How do you get a 7:30 at 50 heat
snow skiff
huh
high island
🦊 🔄
snow skiff
I guess every non bow is fake then
snow skiff
the shields are only fast when they larp as bows, so true
high island
Cshot is basically bow
But single arrow instead of two.
Which makes it an inferior bow compared to bow.
snow skiff
real gamers use 3 arrow
high island
All non-bow bows bow before the might of bow.
signal aspen
triple shot best boon
latent moon
Does blitz disc count as a funky arrow
signal aspen
all shields are the same
high island
Does blitz disc count as a funky arrow
That's an autonomous bow.
snow skiff
all shields are the same
like you
snow skiff
@rmac robow monkey reference