#h1-discussion

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fallen fjord
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i see

latent moon
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even tho you dont use it, sometimes it's worth slapping something on it so you dont see any special boons again

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just be careful not to open any random duos

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i guess it is crush shot hera so it doesnt really matter

fallen fjord
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makes it more likely for me to pom to 5 or 6 on crush shot

latent moon
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i would quit the game so i can reselect my keepsake

latent moon
fallen fjord
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yea true true

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mis speak there

latent moon
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also lvl 4 crush shot is decent enough imo

fallen fjord
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wait can u quit and save an existing run?

latent moon
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you'll get more poms later in the run

latent moon
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dont hit "give up"

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hit "quit"

fallen fjord
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oh i didnt know that

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lmao

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its like a mini psuedo redo

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?

latent moon
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only for specific rooms

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like it should work here

fallen fjord
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oh gosh ive left my computer on all night

latent moon
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there's some nuances about it but yeah

fallen fjord
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a few times mid run

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lol

latent moon
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oh lmao

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after you finish a room and get your reward, you can quit the game

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or if you just enter a room

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if you buy something from charon, you can't quit and have to leave the room

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and then you can quit

umbral summit
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Grr, 2 chaos gates after huge catch and no fish

latent moon
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rip

fallen fjord
fallen fjord
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was v strange

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maybe it was my second idk cant remember

latent moon
latent moon
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although it works for anvil lmao

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and eurydice

fallen fjord
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I should prob be playing with 7 min lvl heat modifier but I don’t really like playing the game fast yet

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like I’ve had it on but I’d rather it be a little harder and I take more time for strategy and learning

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Although switching up my head options is tough and I’m getting rekt cuz my brain 🧠 doesn’t respond appropriately when I swap modifiers without really understanding them 🤔

latent moon
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here's hat's heat guide for up to 32

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it's pretty good

fallen fjord
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Thx u so much I ask for this couple times in last few days I watched many vids as well

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But this looks real nice

umbral summit
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I was doing a dash build, so I did DC2 on my 32 heat run

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Maybe not the objectively best idea, but it worked out

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I don't like LC4

fallen fjord
umbral summit
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I generally shoot to have about 250 by the end

fallen fjord
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im a bow player tho only so far for the most part

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but yea when i have like 50-75 hp and make a mistake dodging a flurry of witch casts or something it really wrecks me

umbral summit
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You don't use Thick Skin?

fallen fjord
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no

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using the alternate as suggested by Mewmew in here. Just to start getting comfortable with it

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cuz i been playing hera bow and you need guaranteed 1 shots basically

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its less forgiving to mistakes but overall with my skill cap its been training me to be more elusive i think?

twilit lodge
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High confidence is for speedrunning

rose trench
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the hades 2 trailer has me a bit intrigued

twilit lodge
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If you’re getting wrecked due to not having the extra HP from Thick Skin, it’s probably not a beneficial choice overall

rose trench
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probably gonna end up buying it like 5 years after release though lol

high island
fallen fjord
umbral summit
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You still have to wait

fallen fjord
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seems like death. Unless I plan to get full deaths defiance restored later

rose trench
umbral summit
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As long as you don't have a boss within those chambers it might be worth it if you're not in a rush

latent moon
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chaos can't really control too much but still should be fine

finite dawn
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I'd take it

fallen fjord
fallen fjord
latent moon
finite dawn
fallen fjord
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ill try it. My build is so beautiful rn its sad

latent moon
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it's hera

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i'd take pauper's lunge

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you have 253 gold, it's good enough

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atrophic eclipse is too risky considering your given hp rn

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ngl slippery defiance is probably fine as long as your first 3 encounters doesn't include a miniboss

fallen fjord
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yea everything very risky except for paupers

latent moon
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if you take the defiance, you risk getting a miniboss on the 3rd chamber

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first one is just bad

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pauper's is the safest

umbral summit
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On the off chance you haven't gotten it before and don't have the prophecy for chaos boons yet, I'd grab it just to get it out of the way

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lol

latent moon
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also that yeah

fallen fjord
latent moon
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if you dont have prophecy, i'd just take the loss if it does happen lmao

fallen fjord
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i think ive got it 3x now

latent moon
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oh bruh lmao

umbral summit
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~180 runs here and I've seen it a total of once

fallen fjord
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well i cant confirm it was 3 times but i have definitely got it 2x within last 3-4 days

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but the time before this i got it, it didnt seem to unlock anything i was aware of

umbral summit
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lol, got Asterius stuck on a pillar

fallen fjord
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i guess it doesnt have a SCROLL indicator

umbral summit
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He was just not moving until the 50% hp gate freed him

fallen fjord
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lol ya some tiny infrequent bugs like that still exist ive seen i think

umbral summit
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Gotten about 25k darkness without any chaos fish since starting to focus on it 😦

fallen fjord
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i gotta meta grind hard

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for resources

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must learn how to do

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also i am bad at getting perfect catches

umbral summit
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darkness is slow while you're doing heat because most of the darkness in a run is from boss kills

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18000/25000 darkness for the last work order

high island
# fallen fjord as a newer player (7 heat) may i ask how often you are looking for the minotaur ...

Focus on power first and pure survivability second. Like even if it seems super risky (like a curse from Master Chaos that you take damage every time you use Attack or Cast), just try it anyway (and still play aggressive like before even with a curse like that). It's great practice and experience to test and push your limits, and you'll get a much better sense of the power scaling potential of different options and what you actually need to survive.

fallen fjord
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i think i need athena dash

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carries many of my runs so far but to justify it as a keepsake seems not great...

high island
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Eternal Rose > Frostbitten Horn > Hourglass > Hourglass/Acorn

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In that order.

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That's the default for Hera.

latent moon
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egg hourglass or acorn would be good here

fallen fjord
latent moon
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if you struggle a lot with the heroes, then acorn would be good

latent moon
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imo

fallen fjord
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if i have a little speed (which i do) yes heroes arent super hard for me now. But i also don't know how hard it will be with my modifiers

latent moon
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you should be fine tbh

high island
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Like I said, Hourglass in Elysium.

fallen fjord
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yea hourglass sounds great

umbral summit
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Acorn also nullifies the boiling blood debuff from Hades until you lose all 5 charges

high island
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Acorn's only purpose is as a tank keepsake in boss fights. If it wasn't the best at that job, it would be obsolete. tizomg

umbral summit
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I'd consider using Tooth for Elysium on tough runs if it happened before normal DDs

high island
umbral summit
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But since it happens after, you're in pretty big trouble if you lose all your DDs in Elysium in the first place without a lucky NPC visit

high island
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Lucky Tooth is like... if you're low on HP and have 0 DDs left and want to try to carry the run to Patroclus to get your DDs back. Something like that.

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If you still have DDs, Hourglass better for survivability in Elysium anyway. And Acorn, too.

fallen fjord
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oh crap. Now i have Triple shot option on hera. Its like ok normally but u cant hit the target u mean to sometimes...😅

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only other options are specials

high island
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Triple Shot is great.

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Also Lucky Tooth is good for EM4 in high heat.

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And for new players who don't have Acorn or a lot of keepsakes yet, naturally.

latent moon
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Tooth for em2 lernie at high heat is also valid

fallen fjord
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yea i have acorn still on lvl 1 lol

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rip

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i should do a no heat run full acorn

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or somethin

old dawn
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0 heat "speedruns" to level up keepsakes are ok i guess

wide solar
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Can't do 0 heat runs myself lol I'm on hell mode

fallen fjord
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yea... in risk of rain if i play on even the "hard mode" without eclipse level its very boring

high island
fallen fjord
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ok thx u Mewmew

somber yarrow
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i skip the dialogue.

fringe thistle
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hey now that hades has a sequel in the works is it time to speculate on a voice cast

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i hope they bring back royce’s va someday, he’s my favorite by a landslide

wide solar
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I need Hades 2 to get a price so I can preorder it

high island
fallen fjord
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based on how much playtime folks get on a game like this $100 wouldn't be out of the question given the Calysto Protocol and God of War are 70 bux and many ppl play them one time through and they are done lol

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im sure it will be appropriately priced

latent moon
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bro hades 1 was like $25 lmao

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i doubt hades 2 is gonna be over $30 lmao

high island
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It was 0 because it was a christmas present. tizomg

latent moon
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based

fallen fjord
latent moon
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indie companies moment

rustic vale
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Hades 2 is gonna be 1000000 darkness

lone kernel
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they know it’s got a huge market

latent moon
rustic vale
fallen fjord
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i would pay any price for a hades 2. The limit is virtually uncapped within reason but they wont do that

latent moon
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hehehe

lone kernel
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and if they asked for a hundo I’d pay it tbh I bought three copies of the game feelsthinkman

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forgot how much harder smair builds are when one doesn’t get smair

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Still got it tho

latent moon
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what kind of build do you have where you're relying on smair lmao

rustic vale
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nem
shadesmile

fallen fjord
rustic vale
latent moon
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fair

lone kernel
latent moon
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oh rama special only

lone kernel
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Just didn’t sing the way rama usually does

latent moon
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that would explain a lot

fallen fjord
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so ive maxed out hera i think its going to be slow climb with melee weapon catchup. I just love progressing heat and gaining stuffs rn 🙂

rustic vale
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Only real way to play rama is dash only tbh

lone kernel
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yeah my bad

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been a while

fringe thistle
high island
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lol just letting you know they already made a channel for us.

fallen fjord
rustic vale
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7th weapon
Axe

latent moon
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ace

high island
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I am neither a PC nor a console. tizomg

rustic vale
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Nyaanyaa plays Hades on a Gameboy

fallen fjord
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Mewmew is an entity not tied to any fate therefore can defeat dad

high island
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My fate is Lady Aphrodite.

fallen fjord
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i find this interesting

rustic vale
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Ehh

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Yes
But also Hera bow

high island
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Jawless Paul was never competitive in high heat.

fallen fjord
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prob not

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do u ever take the random sack offered in the store if u are compiling hera bow early?

high island
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Not just probably, I know that for a fact. tizomg

fallen fjord
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so u never do

high island
fallen fjord
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until fill them poms and such right

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well

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the game wanted me to get zues twice

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which is terrible

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in biome 1

high island
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It's like... I gauge in the moment if it's worth taking it or not. Well, before I enter shop already. But yeah.

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No, it's not terrible lol.

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You already have a boon from Lady Aphrodite. So if you're forced to take a boon from him, just grab Zeus' Aid and hope for Smoldering Air later.

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Lightning Reflex is fine, too.

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Even Lightning Strike can be good enough.

latent moon
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seeing zues in tart when you started with aphrodite is great lol

twilit lodge
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Random boon bags are a risk typically

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But I do so love it when I take one at aspho endshop and it gives me ME or Mirage

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If you have a full god pool already the random bags are much safer

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If not you risk wasting a spot in your pool on a neutral god, or worse

latent moon
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if you plan on resetting if you dont get the god you want it's worth it lol

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cheaper boon

twilit lodge
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Personally I would random bag into tart duo of choice and also shop Hermes hyper sprint

latent moon
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true

twilit lodge
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But suboptimal play is fine too

latent moon
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just get mirage shot midshop from random bag, hermes hyper sprint, take chaos extension, get epic rd before furies

twilit lodge
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And then Alecto laughs for 30 seconds before starting the fight

latent moon
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just get a sub1 tart

high island
spare tartan
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What do you guys think is the best keepsake

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In general

latent moon
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god keepsakes are the best

twilit lodge
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Hades 2 best keepsake

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L bozo

latent moon
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bad news kinda common rd

twilit lodge
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Not if you’re lodging casts :0

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And if you’re not lodging them then you’re losing 50% from boiling

latent moon
twilit lodge
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It’s a global damage boost

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To things without your cast in them

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Right?

latent moon
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yeah

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so just dont lodge casts

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or if you do lodge a cast it wont matter lmao

twilit lodge
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Exactly

latent moon
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but since you dont have to lodge casts

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just ignore cast lmao

twilit lodge
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RD still way better

latent moon
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yeah but it's not buggy

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so therefore it's worse

twilit lodge
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True

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Bugs are free

steel thunder
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im so upset i have to watse 21 quid to rebuy a game

fallen fjord
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does smoldering air get you full duration of your god gauge effect?

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or its just if you want to cheese with mini 1 bar effects fast?

latent moon
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small calls are better than big calls anyways except for aphrodite and artemis

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with smair you just spam small calls

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every 5 seconds

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well technically longer, but once your call ends it takes 5 secs to recharge

fallen fjord
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so a quick zues call is good

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basically?

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or any other u know how to use appropriately?

latent moon
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yes

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for calls, you generally only want to use dio or zeus

latent moon
high island
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Only ones you'd use at Greater Call really are Aphrodite's Aid in boss fights if you didn't level it or Artemis' Aid.

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Maybe Athena's Aid for the extra duration.

fallen fjord
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sry for ping didnt know if u were around

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🙂

latent moon
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snow bust is more important

fallen fjord
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snow burst is rare

latent moon
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better damage and aoe

fallen fjord
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not rare but i have so many runs i dont see it

latent moon
fallen fjord
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but also u could get rare crop... which lvls up your crush shot highly...

latent moon
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ravenous will is also good from dem

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that too

fallen fjord
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i mean its ok

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rav will that is

latent moon
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dem has a good chunk of things for crush shot hera

latent moon
high island
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Rare Crop doesn't matter really in Hera runs.

latent moon
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it really doesnt but if you get it early it's neat

fallen fjord
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but i guess this is rare

latent moon
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also if you have common crush shot to start with you might as well unless the other option is snurst

gray apex
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There are better things to hunt instead of cast rarity

high island
rustic vale
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I don’t think rarity really matters for aphro cast

fallen fjord
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i only have 1 reroll unlocked and a lot of the time its not unlocked lol

latent moon
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it's pretty negligible lol

rustic vale
latent moon
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heroic crush shot is good because red looks nice tho

high island
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Rarity definitely makes a difference, but it's not big enough that you'd value Rare Crop over way better options like Snow Burst.. and you wouldn't reset for rarity in a speedrun really.

rustic vale
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Rare crop good if it hits killing freeze though

fallen fjord
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KF is good vs dad yah hmm

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im very noob

rustic vale
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KF is good vs dad ya hmm

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KF just good

high island
rustic vale
high island
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And would also come so late in the run that it wouldn't make enough of a difference.

latent moon
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just get rare crop in tart

high island
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That would be so sad.

latent moon
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as well as snurst killing freeze and rav will

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easy tbh

high island
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Imagine getting her in Tartarus and not getting Snow Burst or Ravenous Will.

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Or epic Frost Strike even.

latent moon
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c1 aphro -> c2 dem -> c3 dem -> c4 dem -> c5 dem

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doable tbh

high island
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No poms 5 chambers in?

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Reset. tizomg

latent moon
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oh that's true

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throw in like 2 poms after c1

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or nectar -> pom

fallen fjord
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How to proper reset u give up? Or die. I’ve tried to give up or quit and the same initial stuff is offered to me

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😅

latent moon
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die

fallen fjord
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spank u

rustic vale
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So you have the same seed

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You have to properly die to reset

fallen fjord
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that is a good mechanic tho

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so u need to suffer with boredom to die

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and not scum

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at least

latent moon
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you could scum chaos with rng manip lmao

rustic vale
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You can scum so much

latent moon
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anvil scum

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eury scum

rustic vale
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Patty scum shadesmile

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Actually could you bouldy scum?

latent moon
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i was just wondering the same thing lmao

fallen fjord
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i want to scum

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how would u boulder guy scum

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oh random life gain or gold gain?>

rustic vale
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For +10% movespeed

fallen fjord
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ur talkin biome 1 eury equivalent guy?

rustic vale
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It’s not sisyphus scum

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It’s bouldy scum

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Damn I can’t spell

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Scum your bouldy boon to be +10% movespeed

latent moon
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gotta get that extra rd damage if you get rd

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scum bouldy to get 10% more gold gained and get more gold from sisyphus

fallen fjord
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can u scum chaos gates? quit reset em

latent moon
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only for c2 chaos

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and with rng manip

rustic vale
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Plus moving faster makes your endscreen look better
Even if scumming isn’t legal for speedruns

latent moon
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seeded speedruns lmao

fallen fjord
rustic vale
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2nd chamber chaos

fallen fjord
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got that one

latent moon
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since you can't rng manip your very first room, chaos will always be there

rustic vale
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Save scum and rng manipulate to guarantee his boons in 2nd chamber

latent moon
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however, the boons aren't set in chaos

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so you can do weird rng manip stuff so he gives you the boon you want

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or bonus rather

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so say the first run you get +cast +atk% +gold%

rustic vale
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+30090% darkness

latent moon
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you reset, rng manip so now chaos gives you +special% +cast% +darkness%

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it's only reliable for chaos start

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if there's a chaos portal in c2, you just have to make sure you dont manip rng so you remove it in the next room

feral belfry
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Stardew valley dlc

frank torrent
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what's a good set of boons to go for with eris?

latent moon
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lightning strike, aphro/arty special

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tidal dash

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start lightning strike

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hope for rocket bomb hammer then find cluster

frank torrent
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so force zeus, take aphro or artemis if they show up

latent moon
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yeah

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poseidon if he shows up too

frank torrent
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oh yep

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any duo boons i should be going for?

latent moon
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if you dont get his dash, his cast is decent, i'd only take his special if it was epic

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smair if it's dio or zeus call

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but very unnecessary tbh

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not something to shoot for, but if you get the opportunity to do it naturally then why not

frank torrent
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so no point forcing it

latent moon
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wouldn't force it unless you have lightning strike, heartbreak flourish, and tidal dash already leaving tart

frank torrent
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just got ricoshet fire, hazard bomb, and seeking fire hammer upgrades

latent moon
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is this c1 hammer

frank torrent
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c2

latent moon
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damn these all suck lmao

frank torrent
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zeus gave me a rare lightning strike in c1 which is nice

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yeah, hazard bomb is exactly counter synergy to eris

latent moon
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i guess ricochet fire unless you want to iframe every hazard bomb

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not impossible but also could take a ton of unnecessary damage

frank torrent
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i'll just go with ricochet

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oh, found heartbreak flourish immediately too

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that's fun

latent moon
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oh bruh lmao

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at least you're getting good boons

frank torrent
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it's all perfect apart from the hammer

latent moon
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just pray for a good hammer in ely lol

frank torrent
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yeah

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should I be focussing on pomming up lightning strike?

latent moon
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i think so? i'd spread them between that and special atm

frank torrent
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ok

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thanks

latent moon
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first poms are always important

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okay so you have 8 hammer options left, 5 or 6 of them are pretty good for eris

frank torrent
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i'll probably get the 3 that aren't as good

latent moon
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so hopefully you dont get like flurry, piercing, and hazard in the next option lmao
flurry is the best option here and isn't bad at all, but imo the others are much better

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targetting system, rocket, triple, cluster, delta

frank torrent
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game's trying to force athena on me

latent moon
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which means you're at least guaranteed a decent hammer next lol

frank torrent
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3rd time it's offered it

frank torrent
latent moon
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ddash isn't bad, tidal dash is just preferred because it does a ton of damage

frank torrent
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ah there's tidal dash

frank torrent
latent moon
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um

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do you have a 4th god in your pool already

frank torrent
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no

latent moon
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damn lmfao

frank torrent
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avoided athena in favour of posideon

latent moon
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gimme a sec to think lol

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what heat is this?

frank torrent
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1

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second run ever with exagryph

latent moon
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how much trouble do you typically have in styx

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also do you have static discharge yet?

frank torrent
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depends whether there's loads of satyrs or not

frank torrent
frank torrent
latent moon
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is your cast boon open rn?

frank torrent
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Yep

latent moon
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take poseidon, look for breaking wave. if you want, you can take poseidon's cast so you can open up sea storm
keep in mind that you have mirage shot open, and it's not useful for eris

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breaking wave + tidal dash deletes styx

frank torrent
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So posiedon on cast? And go for breaking wave

latent moon
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hydraulic might is also a good pick if you see it, but i wouldn't prioritize it here

latent moon
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cast is probably gonna be guaranteed in your first poseidon boon

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given how boon options work

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however

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static discharge is gonna be more important that either of those things, so try and get a zeus in there somewhere

frank torrent
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Any gods in specific I should pick up for my 4th

latent moon
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oh wait you dont have artemis do you

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why'd i say you have mirage shot open lmfao

frank torrent
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Not yet

latent moon
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you have sweet nectar open not mirage shot, but whatever

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anyways

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artemis would be neat for pressure points

frank torrent
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So I could force Artemis just to ensure that she shows up

latent moon
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eh

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the 4th isn't too important at this point imo

frank torrent
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Is it worth forcing anything, or should I just go Pom blossom now

latent moon
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forcing for a single boon from 1 god typically isn't worth it imo

latent moon
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i'd force poseidon here for breaking wave and/or sea storm possibilities

frank torrent
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Ok, just to make sure he shows up

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Cool, thx

latent moon
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yeah

frank torrent
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I’ll go do asphodel now

frank torrent
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artemis just showed up as my 4th god

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and immediately gave me pressue points

frank torrent
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so far you have perfectly predicted my run except for the good posideon boons

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and literally ever seeing zeus again

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also: sea storm, smouldering air, or static discharge

earnest helm
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Guys does anyone know whats my problem, ||i just unlocked Thanatos locked heart and gave him 1 ambrosia now he doesnt show up anymore this is like my 11th run and he is still not coming||

frank torrent
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he showed up and gave me that

latent moon
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uh

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what call do you have?

frank torrent
#

zeus

latent moon
#

damn

#

smair

#

pray you see zeus again and get static discharge

frank torrent
#

so i'd already taken static discharge

#

he's now shown up offering sea storm but not smair

latent moon
#

ah oh well it's fine

#

take it lol

frank torrent
#

i'll keep going for him and aphro's boons

latent moon
#

yeah

frank torrent
#

this is absolutely insane dps rn

#

don't think i've found something that feels as satisfying

latent moon
#

eris is hella strong lol

frank torrent
#

and after buying a zeus and aphro boon along with going down one temple path, no smair

#

oh well

#

at least hermes decided i needed 2 extra dashes

void vigil
marble sky
#

Can you speed up than leaving the room?

latent moon
#

damn lost my hestia 40 heat run at the last stretch of the dad fight

marble sky
#

Or how to make him disappear as fast as possible?

latent moon
#

sometimes he takes forever, sometimes he's relatively fast leave but it still takes some time

marble sky
#

Ikr? It's like ok thanks. Can you like, go now?

latent moon
#

you can have him "speed up" leaving if you end the room near where he teleports to only if you have a menu reward like a pom, boon, or hammer

#

when you're in that spot, you leave the menu open until you hear him drop the heart and leave

frank torrent
#

got the win

latent moon
#

nice

frank torrent
#

2nd fastest ever

latent moon
#

i did not get my hestia win unfortunately because i got slapped by boiling blood

frank torrent
#

fastest was a failed merciful end build

frank torrent
#

i'm finally starting to build up decent stocks of titan blood

latent moon
#

nice

cyan jolt
#

I hate grinding titan blood

latent moon
#

you get a ton of ambrosia from prophecies which you can turn into tb

cyan jolt
#

It take so long when you don't cleat every new bounty first try

frank torrent
#

i haven't needed to farm it hard yet

#

but i'm getting enough supplies to actually make an aspect decent when i first unlock it now

sterile light
#

Lookin great with those bloodstones 👀

frank torrent
#

beat charon for the first time

cyan jolt
twilit lodge
#

There are no spoiler rules in this channel

cyan jolt
#

Oh yeah oops

twilit lodge
#

Only in the new players channel

cyan jolt
sterile light
#

spoilers are allowed here

cyan jolt
#

How long did it take for you guys to unlock the final rank

#

Like next to your hp bar

twilit lodge
#

An indeterminate amount of time

#

Because I haven’t unlocked it yet

sterile light
#

final rank of?

twilit lodge
#

Resource director titles

#

Alpha Warden etc etc

earnest helm
#

Im grinding for freinds forever achievement no time for that

sterile light
#

weird

#

never heard of it

#

since when is this a thing

frank torrent
#

i've still got other stuff to buy before i start doing that lmao

twilit lodge
#

Since 10 clears and going into dads room

sterile light
#

got 19k+ darkness lol

earnest helm
#

When u officially work for hades

sterile light
#

hmm

#

I've been playing since EA

#

so

twilit lodge
#

What’s your point

sterile light
#

Idk what the normal flow the game is at this point

#

so if there's a bunch of stuff that I haven't done yet then it would be good to know about

twilit lodge
#

Well we just told you about one thing so

#

That’s a start

sterile light
#

how do you know what your rank is?

twilit lodge
#

It shows it underneath your Hp bar

earnest helm
#

To upgrade it go to hades room

#

There is a shade there

sterile light
#

I only just saw the dialogue where Zag gets an official rank or smth

void vigil
#

ive been grinding darkness for that for a while but i havent gotten any ranks yet, since i want to get them all at once. i have all the other resources

latent moon
#

you have to buy the ranks 1 by 1 tho

void vigil
#

oh i know

#

but i have a long way to go anyway

latent moon
#

aight fair enough carry on lmao

void vigil
#

its so much darkness shadegrief

sterile light
#

does this have anything to do with the ending?

void vigil
#

i think im at least more than halfway now

sterile light
#

I've got a bunch of locked NPCs whose hearts I can't advance

earnest helm
#

I dont think so

twilit lodge
#

Resource director has no impact on anything

#

Locked hearts mean you need to talk to the npc more

frank torrent
twilit lodge
#

Or possibly do something special to unlock the heart

earnest helm
#

How to unlock Persephone's heart btw?

twilit lodge
#

I think it unlocks after the epilogue

earnest helm
#

Im way more after it

void vigil
#

iirc theres just a conversation that happens but its just good ol dialogue rng

#

nothing special you need to do

twilit lodge
#

Yeah it’s just a dialogue

#

I looked it up just now

wide solar
#

Man I hate saving up darkness lol I need the third death defiance but like I also wanna lvl up the new stuff that I unlock with keys and it takes so much lol

earnest helm
#

Level death defiance up so u die less

sterile light
#

how do you even trigger the charon fight

wide solar
#

take money from him I think

old dawn
#

low chance of midshop having a sack of 300 obols you can "borrow" from him

#

just "borrow" it

sterile light
#

dammit

#

there's still a thing where if you skip 0 heat, you lose out on the bounties

slim geyser
#

well.

#

well well well well well

#

anyway why game hate me

#

im playing casual after a looong break and i forgot how useful god keepsakes are

#

why no athena

brave thicket
#

Finally I reached the true ending

#

after like 1 year of playing

#

damn

dreamy solstice
#

Hello, does any one know if the random god boon sack from Charon gives you a boon from the god pool you currently have or can it give you a boon from all the gods?

wide solar
#

Are there any cosmetic items in the great hall, west hall, lounge and bedchambers that actually do anything? Or should I just continue doing work orders

#

@twilit lodge I just beat Hades for the first time this save file. Feel pretty good rn lol

sterile light
#

Wait is the epilogue different to the olympian party thing?

void vigil
#

no, that is the epilogue

marble mesa
#

which is better, beowulf or rama?

wide solar
#

15 escape attempts total and 1 successful. Feel pretty good about that

#

and 4404 enemies slain

twilit lodge
twilit lodge
dreamy solstice
#

@twilit lodge Thank you!

sturdy nimbus
#

I think I just experienced a weird bug

Using dad call right before Theseus asks for the Olympians' aid makes him get none at all, so he just stands there

misty gorge
#

What do I put on Arthur
Go with artemis or aphrodite on attack?

gray apex
misty gorge
#

So hypothetically
If demeter was trying to get in my way and give me the boon that causes other to evolve as you progress
I get big damag

#

Put her on special to double down the slow from hallowed

somber yarrow
#

guys if i have exclusive access and i take refreshing nectar does that mean that the next boons i find will be all heroic?

gray apex
#

Heroic cant be offered unconditionally, it has to be an epic priority boon and the god you pick up offers a swap, the swap will be a higher rarity boon if you accept it, which ends up being Heroic.

#

The other way to get Heroic boons is through Ambrosia or Rare Crop

wide solar
#

Nooo charon killed me lmao

eternal wedge
#

I tried to fight him only once and it's left an impression of fear 😂

#

haven't gathered the courage to go back and try again yet hahaha

somber yarrow
#

well i took refreshing nectar so rip

twilit lodge
#

As the duos say

#

Oh wait refreshing nectar nvm

#

Thought you meant sweet nectar

#

Basically you wasted eury because yeah it’s not gonna go higher than epic

rustic vale
#

Refreshing nectar gives higher duo/legendary chance so it’s not completely wasted

#

Iirc

somber yarrow
#

well i died to minotaur and the gladiator mf

#

in that run

thin gorge
#

i was right at the end and had Hades at one health and he one shot me 😭

ivory karma
wide solar
#

I was close to dying myself. Had 3 death defiance and used the fists which do baby dmg and I managed to win with 0 of them left and 38 hp lol

umbral summit
#

TIL you can buy a Fateful Twist item, then quit and reload if you don't like what you got to save your obol

formal sinew
unreal oracle
#

The Unseen Ones is the best theme in the game

formal sinew
#

Agreed. That and EM4 Hades

wide solar
#

I hate the murderer lady

misty gorge
#

i like how we dont call thesius by his name but rather
the gladiator mf

wide solar
#

so

#

so much

misty gorge
#

thesius ego is so large it has its own gravity pull

unreal oracle
#

Sadge

formal sinew
#

The only one out of them to watch out for really is Alecto

#

Because her rage makes her really stronk

wide solar
#

Not with a weapon that I suck with

thin gorge
formal sinew
wide solar
#

I have cleared Hades with 2 weapons and now doing my third. I'm in Asphodel rn, It's gonna be bad

thin gorge
#

oh

#

probably phase 2 then

tulip matrix
#

Oops

#

Just got ultra carried by boons

thin gorge
#

yeah if he gets another health bar then i was at phase 2

tulip matrix
#

first clear

formal sinew
#

Phase 1: he summons mobs.
Phase 2: the jars mostly

#

Phase 3: ???!?!?!?!?!

#

Can't say coz it's a surprise

misty gorge
#

phase 1 he likes to go out for milk

#

cuz he disappears

formal sinew
#

He only gets Phase 3 if you ||get the extreme measures pact upto max||

misty gorge
#

inhale

#

mUWUrderer

#

k you can ban me now

formal sinew
#

Lmao

thin gorge
#

how many lives can you get

#

4 in total right?

#

counting when you start i mean

umbral summit
#

A bunch if you're lucky enough

#

3 base, 1 from lucky tooth, then X from the chaos Defiance boon, which you can get multiple of if your luck is crazy enough

thin gorge
#

i know its rng

#

but it's annoying lol

wide solar
#

the spear is so damn boring man

thin gorge
wide solar
#

It's funny I've gotten to hades with possibly the worst build I've ever had and I'm using the spear which I'm really bad with

dense parcel
#

My main weapon is the spear

wide solar
#

teach me

thin gorge
#

i get to Hades basically every time but the stupid rats in the temple make me want to cry

dense parcel
#

I got hades to about 3-4 hits from death but he killed me

umbral summit
#

Is there an actual substory for repeatedly bringing the Yarn of Ariadne to Theseus, or is it just like 2 or 3 modified dialogues?

thin gorge
#

there are 21,020 lines of dialogue so i wouldnt be surprised if there's a substory

#

but ig it could be a few lines that are modified as

dense parcel
#

I was trying the hidden aspect of the spear today and I hated it

#

What's better, pc or console controls, I have the game on switch but I'm debating getting it on pc

wide solar
#

Man how many % does the olympian favor have I'm up att 25% rn and it's still not maxed lol

short glen
#

The only cap is how many gods you can meet in one run iirc. Or is that the other one

gray apex
#

Its counterpart is much stronger however

dense parcel
#

I have hades on switch, should I also get it on pc?

void vigil
#

they have cross save so you can keep your progress if youd like, and its also on sale right now for 50% off

#

id say its worth it

latent moon
silver rose
dense parcel
#

Why is there a rail gun in a game about Greek mythology

ivory karma
#

✨ Fun✨

steel thunder
#

worst weaopon

ivory karma
steel thunder
#

which ones?

ivory karma
#

literally anything that hurts you while moving

mental vale
#

uh

#

those are... ok on rail

mental vale
#

it tends to be harder at first bc the attack doesnt stagger enemies

#

but its really good + pretty much every aspect is viable

ivory karma
# mental vale those are... ok on rail

ive personally only really had good runs with those, but i know theres probably better ones - my specific playstyle is that i prefer stacking things like doom/curse and rupture bc i am constantly getting backstabbed accidentally because things move too fast for me to see lmao

mental vale
#

doom doesn't stack?????

#

unless you have dire misfortune which is a secondary boon

wide solar
#

After I have killed hades with all weapons I will most likely never touch the majority of them again

icy knoll
#

bigger than a few lines of dialogue smaller than a substory i'd say

umbral summit
#

I see, thanks

#

Any idea how many dialogues there are? I've seen 2 so far

icy knoll
#

i do not

bleak yoke
#

Yes got to Elysium and died in it's 4th room, man this game is so good and Elysium is gorgeous.

limber elk
#

i have achilies at 6/9 hearts and ||did the patroclus stuff|| I cant seem to gift him any nectar, does it have to be ambrosia? im out so it would make sense why the pop ups not there.

latent moon
#

Aphrodite or Artemis special

#

Tidal dash

latent moon
latent moon
umbral summit
#

Oh neat, never realized Main can crit

ivory karma
ivory karma
latent moon
#

doom atk is certainly a choice for rail

ivory karma
#

its hella fun once you get DM or ME, trust

wide solar
#

Man idk what to do about using the spear, the moveset is so... bad. I just wanna kill hades with it mannnnn

latent moon
#

i've never done ME on eris, but ME zag rail spread fire was neat

ivory karma
latent moon
umbral summit
#

What's the easiest aspect to beat Hades with 0 core boons for the special dialogue?

latent moon
#

hestia

#

arthur

#

nemesis

wide solar
latent moon
#

zag shield

latent moon
#

after you use your special

#

works great for hunting blades or lightning phalanx

#

or meme beams

wide solar
#

I like never use cast. I think it's really unnecessary ngl

latent moon
#

for most aspects yeah

#

but some of them benefit a ton from it

#

like achilles

#

casts have some of the best pom scaling in the game

#

as well as just overall damage

#

like, a spear atk is 25 damage. your base cast does 50, which would you rather boost by 150%

umbral summit
#

Would you guys say that a fresh file escape or 32 heat is harder?

latent moon
#

fresh file

#

1 dash, no dd

#

32 heat, you can have patty sd

#

and an actual good build

umbral summit
#

What heat would you say evens it out?

latent moon
#

hm

#

from what i remember, heroes fight is like 45ish heat, dad fight is 50 heat

#

either way, at least 45 heat

#

after a certain point in the run

#

also you're stuck with sword

#

which sucks lol

#

and no hermes

#

no chaos

wide solar
#

And no maidens

#

No laugh? Okay I'll see myself out

latent moon
#

go see yourself some maidens dusa

wide solar
#

Megzagluv

fallen fjord
latent moon
#

oh damn

#

pstatus gaming

fallen fjord
#

5 stones on Hera is nice. Hera is tricky if you don’t get a buff for your cast from chaos boon it seems 🤔

latent moon
#

it's just sad yeah

#

a lot of castpects need a bonus from chaos to do well

#

braids are nice, but temporary so hopefully they last lol

fallen fjord
#

i suppose its like some spear builds that really need hammers to work too

latent moon
#

yeah, all spears are heavily reliant on hammers

fallen fjord
#

In the final room before dad what is the different between an aphrodite boon that costs 450 and another aphro boon that costs 150?

latent moon
#

rarity increase

fallen fjord
#

ah i see

latent moon
#

the 450 should be guaranteed to have no commons?

#

i think idk

fallen fjord
#

also more duo boon chance?

latent moon
#

i'd assume so lmao

#

tbh i'm not really sure

#

ever since i found out that miniboss boons have a lower chance of getting duos/legendary

wide solar
#

Getting the prophecy for getting all duo boons is gonna be a pain

latent moon
#

just get the boons

rustic vale
tired karma
#

how do you like zagreus as a character
is he too much of a wuss

rustic vale
#

A wuss?

fallen fjord
#

he's badass imo. Great voice acting for the role too

#

very likable

rustic vale
#

Zag != wuss

fallen fjord
#

ANd

rustic vale
#

Em3 for 7 heat is

#

A choice

#

Actually nevermind em3 isn’t really a probably unless you’ve lc4 and fo2

fallen fjord
#

got 2 fish ok fish and 1 really nice fish right at the end

latent moon
#

free titan blood

fallen fjord
#

i think maybe Aspect of bananas ?

latent moon
#

wasn't my guide lol

#

ridiculous hat's guide

fallen fjord
#

isnt he a hearthstone guy

latent moon
#

no clue

fallen fjord
#

i listened to his podcast before

rustic vale
#

Em3 is fine until asterius is beyblading 24/7

latent moon
#

he is/was a top runner here

#

idk if he still runs

fallen fjord
#

this one

rustic vale
#

That is solid

fallen fjord
#

i would rather not change my heat combos up when im trying to climb just cuz it really seems to mess my timing up

rustic vale
#

Honestly just pull a Matty and jump from 8 heat -> 32 heat in like 2 days with no inbetween

fallen fjord
#

tight deadline bothers me. i think my time was 27 mins last time and i burnt prob 3-4 unnecessary mins just lookin for gold or messin around

#

i dont like to rush

rustic vale
#

It’s not really a rush

fallen fjord
#

if i dont screw around i dont think tight deadline 2 would be much of an issue for me

#

but below that i am in big trouble

rustic vale
#

I still find time to screw around with td3 unless I’m using something I’m not good with

latent moon
latent moon
rustic vale
wise pecan
#

hi, is there any tips for fresh file clear?

latent moon
rustic vale
#

Polish skills

fallen fjord
#

if you have hourglass equipped on one biome and keep it equipped will it still apply to charon purchases?

dull niche
#

ye it applies to all charon well purchases bought when you have the keepsake equipped

#

so that means if you already have a well item, then equip it, that well item doesnt get extended. however if you buy a well item with hourglass equipped, then immediately remove hourglass, the item retains the extended duration

latent moon
#

it's a good reason why people take hourglass into ely

trail thorn
#

can i buy things for cerbus using gems

latent moon
#

buy stuff before ely, buy stuff before styx, then switch off hourglass

latent moon
marble mesa
trail thorn
latent moon
#

rama is much harder to play tho

marble mesa
latent moon
#

thank god for dash strikes charging bow faster

#

otherwise rama would be garbage

#

or you'd need epic swift strike

marble mesa
#

ye

tired karma
steel thunder
#

guys can i only have one of each decortative theme

latent moon
#

okay buddy

fallen fjord
#

for hera bow... do you take a chaos room first OR a pom room. Floor 1 epic crush shot

latent moon
#

chaos

#

you can get more poms later

fallen fjord
#

thats wat i thought

latent moon
#

chaos isn't a guarantee

#

that's for like

#

all weapons tbh

fallen fjord
#

i have lvl 9 heroic crush shot last round. I know its diminishing returns but i got 0 relevant chaos besides 1 gold upgrade room

#

but it worked still

solar breach
#

how do I buy the upgrade that gives gemstones for beating bosses along with darkness?

#

is there a requirement?

trail thorn
#

how do i unlock more msusic

#

ive bought the music thing i only have 2 sogn

#

oh

#

i see

#

how does a gun feel so in place and out of place

fallen fjord
#

is this a trick?

trail thorn
#

damn yuo fight hades?

mint coral
fallen fjord
#

i see

#

hmm

#

but i feel like i havent done too much

umbral summit
#

Trying to get Yarn for Theseus is annoying

#

5 runs so far with 12 boons from the well before him and no yarns

wraith ginkgo
trail thorn
#

what are story reason

rustic vale
#

It’s called 10th escape

wraith ginkgo
#

yep

umbral summit
#

Wow, not a single well in Elysium this run other than the forced one

analog elbow
#

Well, thank you SGG , you've gotten me to start a fresh save in order to quench my thirst for Hades II

rustic vale
analog elbow
#

I've done that before tho lol

latent moon
#

fresh file gamer

rustic vale
#

In preparation for doing it in Hades II

analog elbow
#

mhm mayhaps, I kinda just wanna do a fresh save to re-experience the story

latent moon
#

you can still do that after you get a fresh file clear

#

be a gamer

rustic vale
#

Gonna try to fresh game win Hades II

latent moon
#

"you've been playing the game for literally months how have you still not cleared?"
"i'm trying to fresh file it"

fierce tree
#

where is hades on game pass

latent moon
#

it got removed a while ago iirc

rustic vale
#

Hades not on game pass anymore

fierce tree
#

Why

rustic vale
#

I remember people getting upset about that

latent moon
#

because they felt like it i guess idk

rustic vale
latent moon
#

we wouldn't know

fierce tree
#

L supergiant

latent moon
#

L you

rustic vale
#

L you

fierce tree
latent moon
#

cool

#

bold insult coming from a game full of raging bisexuals lmao

fierce tree
#

I don’t doubt it

#

I ain’t finish

#

Game off game pass fell to my knees

latent moon
#

it's 50% off on steam and i think eshop

random cosmos
#

hey guys

#

wait nvm wrong channel

gleaming grove
#

Chain shot or concentrated volley?

latent moon
#

which aspect

gleaming grove
#

Chiron

gray apex
#

Conc

latent moon
#

conc volley

gleaming grove
#

Bet! Thnku

rustic vale
#

That feels like a no brainer

#

What was the third option? Conc still either way but I’m interested

latent moon
#

explosive

rustic vale
latent moon
#

true

#

explosive twin zag bow

rustic vale
#

Standing strike explosive rama

gleaming grove
#

It was triple shot

rustic vale
#

Triple shot for discount zag bow play shadesmile
Concentrated if you actually want to lean into chiron gimmick
Chain if you don’t want to take the good options

gleaming grove
#

We always use chiron gimmick

rustic vale
#

My chiron pb is discount zagbow play

gleaming grove
#

I also only have 2 main boons lol

rustic vale
#

Core

gleaming grove
#

Poisedon on special and ares on attack

rustic vale
latent moon
#

oh bruh lmfao

rustic vale
#

that’s so cursed

latent moon
#

sea storm chiron is a thing

#

could go for that

rustic vale
#

Still cursed

gleaming grove
#

I dont have a dash,cast,or call at all

rustic vale
#

I like hangover builds too much
On every aspect

latent moon
#

arthur

gleaming grove
#

Jolted builds are kinda underwhelming

fallen fjord
#

Triple shot w Hera has not been nice to me

#

If you don’t have an aoe dash of some sort it’s bad

lapis lagoon
#

Does literally anyone choose death defiance over stubborn defiance and if so why?

mint coral
eternal wedge
#

does it count if I have no idea where/how to choose and usually end up with death defiance?

mint coral
#

stubborn demands cleaner boss fights for the benefit of being able to mess up on normal rooms a lot

#

this is seen a lot on 32 heat where you normally use lasting consequences maxed (so no healing)

lapis lagoon
#

How deadMeme

#

U can revive every room

mint coral
#

most people dont die every room

lapis lagoon
#

Yeah obviously but only being able to waste revives on one boss kinda sucks

#

Like yeah three lives but only one boss to use them on too

#

Where?

mint coral
#

charon well

#

athena has 2 boons that give you dds back too

lapis lagoon
#

I’m assuming pat is the elysium special guy don’t spoil what he does bc I haven’t found him yet lol

latent moon
mint coral
#

patty is a goat on dds but on sd is even better

wraith ginkgo
#

chaos also gives DD as well

lapis lagoon
#

I’m trying to go in as blind as possible

lapis lagoon
latent moon
#

Well I wasn't aware of that lmao

mint coral
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as you get better you can also just dont care about having 3 dds for a boss too tbh lol

lapis lagoon
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I have not I got the game yesterday lmao

latent moon
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That too

mint coral
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i've thrown a fair amount of dds just to enter chaos gates some times

latent moon
lapis lagoon
latent moon
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Skill issue

mint coral
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sometimes i just blame the weapon when i mess up hard on redacted

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mostly on achilles spear

wraith ginkgo
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The final boss is only hard for me when I activate EM4

rustic vale
wraith ginkgo
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then again, I don't often play on high heats

lapis lagoon
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I do have one question tho for the hidden aspects do u need to get to hades and then spend one titans blood on a weapon to make the waking phrase available or put 5 titan’s blood into a weapon

mint coral
rustic vale
wraith ginkgo
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5 blood on a non zag aspect iirc

mint coral
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you need to reveal hidden spear first which needs 5 non zag aspects unlocked

latent moon
lapis lagoon
lapis lagoon
latent moon
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it's just that they heal more

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and you can use more of them at once if needed

lapis lagoon
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Most of the time

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I just mean like I thought stubborn defiance was better bc u can revive on multiple bosses

latent moon
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i mean once you get good enough at the game, you dont take damage in normal rooms anyways so SD just becomes worse

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you can also revive on multiple bosses with DD

lapis lagoon
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But with dd it’s like 3 times but only one boss

lapis lagoon
latent moon
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then dont

mint coral
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just gain them back dusa

latent moon
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that too

mint coral
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sd still has its important uses too anyways

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(and sd patty is even more blessed than dds patty)

umbral summit
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There's quite a few ways to get DDs back even if you spend them early

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Athena has several boons that restore 1, Patroclus restores all 3, and wells have a good chance of offering a restore if you're down

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On my 32 heat run, I used like 6 in total

mint torrent
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Who did you first forge a bond with on your first save? Mine was Charon.

mint coral
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charon prob

wraith ginkgo
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charon

mint coral
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my first 32 was either lc2-lc3 lol

mint torrent
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Yes, with the Ambrosia

wraith ginkgo
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does Hades know that chaos is helping us escape?

umbral summit
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I'm not even sure he knows Chaos is active in the world still

mint coral
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i dont remember zag mentioning about Chaos other than to Nyx

umbral summit
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Turns out Theseus has 4 conversations if you have Yarn, for those that wanted to see them all

limpid ocean
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if you have the boon that makes all boons be minimum epic rarity, and you have yarn, does that guarantee legendary?

umbral summit
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no

mint coral
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legendary needs other boons to show up

umbral summit
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it brings them to heroic

mint coral
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also false

umbral summit
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oh?