#h1-discussion

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shadow kindle
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what build and weapon aspect?

twilit lodge
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Dash and aid

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Reroll

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Dash and blood frenzy

shadow kindle
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What build and weapon aspect?

twilit lodge
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Beowulf

shadow kindle
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RELENTLESS VOLLEY

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AND CONCENTRATED VOLLEY

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CHIRON BUILD

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what

latent moon
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rolley conc moment

shadow kindle
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CHIRON rolley conc

raw herald
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Conc relentless Rama >>>

latent moon
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true

shadow kindle
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NOOOOO

latent moon
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homie got smacked huh

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lmfao

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shouldn't have gotten hit tbh

twilit lodge
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Heheheha

rustic vale
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2nd gift

sacred walrus
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Aaah i finaly did a 32 heat run lol. Aspect of Arthur is insane x)

latent moon
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big sword go sweeng

tepid light
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Arthur is easily the most satisfying aspect in the game

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Those hits are meaty af

twilit lodge
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Meaty

distant jetty
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I really like Arthur's special, and the fact it hits like a truck

twilit lodge
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Beefy chalupa Arthur gameplay

remote iris
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new hades merch on the 14th yay

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i'm ass at aspect of arthur

twilit lodge
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New stuff or restock?

marble mesa
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IHML the game keeps on lagging to the point where I can’t see where I’m going but can still play, and it’s really annoying. tldr: blindly playing hades

gentle ravine
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With the purple Mirror upgrade do you get 3 cheat deaths?

rustic vale
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Yes

sacred walrus
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Is there a way to have more chance to encounter Thanatos ?

mint coral
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nah

signal aspen
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get luckier

gentle ravine
sacred walrus
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Okey, i hope it won't be too long to finish his hearts to complete steam achievements ahah. I won't do the 100% game i think (all boons ect) but at least side stories and epilogue

gray moth
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Yeah all boons are easy

twilit lodge
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The steam achievements for this game are tragic

signal aspen
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no 64 heat achievement zagcry

rustic vale
latent moon
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the only way i can think all boons would be difficult is if you keep using the same build over and over again without changing anything

drifting elbow
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max resource director terrifies me tho i have no idea how long that parts gonna take

latent moon
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very lol

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325k darkness moment

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260k if you always follow dark thirst

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assuming i did the math right

drifting elbow
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exactly where in Heck am i going to find that much darkness thats gonna take like 300+ more runs ):

latent moon
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eclipse boons from chaos, ocean's bounty and sunken treasure from poseidon

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ideally, start with poseidon, find dionysus, get exclusive access, and hope you get epic eclipse from chaos

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that's probably the best way to farm darkness

drifting elbow
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hm but is it really worth the effort for the meme power

latent moon
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up to you

shadow kindle
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YES FIRST BOW VICTORY

latent moon
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very cool

shadow kindle
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And there’s a fishing spot

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BASS

latent moon
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bassed

shadow kindle
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What are the best aspects for each weapon

rustic vale
shadow kindle
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So far what I’ve heard is:
Sword - Nemesis
Spear - Achilles
Shield - Beowulf
Bow - Chiron
Fists - Demeter
Rail - Eris

frank torrent
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two of my three wins came from chiron lmao... although i haven't played this much so that might mean nothing

twilit lodge
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Chiron is great for early game

frank torrent
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ah, that's probably why it's worked so well for me then

rustic vale
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Chiron is fine until it hits high heat

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And pretty much every other bow aspect performs better than chiron does

lean timber
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tbh if your execution is poor you could probably achieve close to similar results with rama at high level

gleaming grove
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World splitter,or double nova

latent moon
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double nova

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world splitter garbage

rustic vale
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Double nova

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World splitter can get in your way if attack in between dashes

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Third hammer? Or ap1?

gleaming grove
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First hammer

rustic vale
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I meant third hammer option

gleaming grove
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Oh cursed slash

latent moon
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oh good thing you just omitted that lmao

rustic vale
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Yeah ok double nova

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Honestly just put all three down when asking so you don’t get aked what the third option was

gleaming grove
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I love pom flower

rustic vale
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I’m not sure how many builds aside from dio can utilise pom flower well

twilit lodge
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None

gleaming grove
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Wdym I thought pom flower was a one size fits type deal

rustic vale
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Dio can use it well just because he doesn’t suffer diminishing returns

gleaming grove
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Piercing wave , double edge or ...cursed slash

rustic vale
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Double edge

gleaming grove
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Ok

rustic vale
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You want to be dash striking on sword as much as you can do

gleaming grove
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but yeah if you rock pom flower or a whole run that's 17 free poms

rustic vale
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you don’t want to be rocking pom flower for tartarus that’s when you force your first god in

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And in asphodel thats when your force your second

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Plus dio is the only one who really benefits from all the poms
Most other boons fall off after the first few poms

gleaming grove
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So what's a better keepsake

rustic vale
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Depends on what point you’re at

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As a guideline(you don’t need to stick to this):
Tartarus: force in the first god for your build using their keepsake
Asphodel: force in second god
Elysium: hourglass or defensive keepsake
Styx: defensive keepsake

gleaming grove
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Actually used to do that

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I would do the first 2

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And then take acorn from elysium

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To the surface

rustic vale
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what made you stop?

gleaming grove
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Pom flower

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Genuinely

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It's just fun to carry it and just go with the flow

latent moon
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i thought it'd just be the last room of the tunnel

gleaming grove
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Yeah those count as individual encounters

latent moon
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well they count for well items, but stuff like plume and butterfly it doesnt work

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even those state encounters as well

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idk if mom pom counts as one of those

rustic vale
gleaming grove
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Rlly

latent moon
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ah neat

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also it'd be closer to like 14-15, if you take story, chaos, or midshop

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and ofc the rooms between biomes

gleaming grove
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Thats still good tho

latent moon
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i mean yeah but do keep in mind that poms might go to useless boons

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and also since youre losing control of your build, even if it poms your core boons, your core boon might not even be good

rustic vale
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Gotta love lvl15 arte strike

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Or lvl 15 frost flare

latent moon
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def worth

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just dont hit the shield tbh

gleaming grove
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Shout out to that one shade

latent moon
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or use cshot, piercing volley, or piercing shot

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idk if there's anything else

gleaming grove
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Don't have those

latent moon
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it do be like that

rustic vale
latent moon
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oh right

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forgot that existed

rustic vale
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Arte call projectiles

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Uh

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Lightning hits over his shield

latent moon
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so you could just spam lighting flourish with rama or like chiron and eventually it'd work lol

gleaming grove
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Yeah but it's annoying

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His shield block Chiron special

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Demeter special stronk

rustic vale
gleaming grove
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Yeah but most which makes the battle an annoying slog

frank torrent
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right, i got my first win with the sword, what's a decent set of boons to go for on the shield?

rustic vale
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which shield are you using

frank torrent
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haven't gotten an aspect yet, doing a run on heat two with coronacht to collect a bit of titan blood

gentle ravine
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I’ve had success with Ares special with Zag shield or Zeus special with Zeus shield

frank torrent
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is curse of nausea good?

gentle ravine
frank torrent
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so ares with zag or zeus with zeus

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thx

latent moon
frank torrent
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not even close to hidden aspects afaik

latent moon
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but yeah, chaos and zag shield you ignore the special and spam cshot/bull rush

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zeus shield, explosive return with thunder flourish

frank torrent
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which aspect would be best for a beginner?

latent moon
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zag shield

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zeus can be a bit difficult to use, esp since it relies on the special a lot

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it's a bit funky

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it's a very good aspect tho

rustic vale
frank torrent
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ok, i'll just go with zag for now then

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once i'm a bit better at this i'll see about unlocking zeus

latent moon
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zag shield if you just want ease of use, zeus if you want to git gud lol

frank torrent
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i'll get a bit better at the game before i use the harder but better option lol

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thanks

latent moon
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oh i will say

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zeus shield is less hammer reliant

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zag shield kinda needs/wants cshot for good damage

rustic vale
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And zeus shield doesn’t really need levels in it

frank torrent
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oh ok, i'll definitely go for hammers when i see them then

latent moon
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oh yeah zeus shield is good at lvl 1

frank torrent
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is dionysus's call any good?

latent moon
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yes

rustic vale
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Because you’ll likely be using the flat damage options (lightning / doom / hangover)

frank torrent
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yoink

rustic vale
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It’s one of the best dps calls in the game

latent moon
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slap like 2 or 3 poms on it and it's good damage

frank torrent
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i have about 12 damage stacked on my special for hangover atm

latent moon
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at lvl 1 it's still fine

latent moon
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hangover overrides itself

frank torrent
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oh well

latent moon
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rip

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just like

frank torrent
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my build is already really powerful

latent moon
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use the call but then dont use the special lol

frank torrent
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true

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i've got a good bit of doom on my normal attack anyway

rustic vale
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Oh and

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Generally speaking

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You want to get curse of nausea from curse of vengeance

frank torrent
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twin shot, flurry shot, or chain shot? chiron hangover build

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none affect the special unfortunately

rustic vale
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Chain messes up your targetting

frank torrent
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oh i like flurry actually

frank torrent
frank torrent
rustic vale
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yeah that’s how you got it

frank torrent
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curse of agony yeah

rustic vale
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but since you also want low tolerance for hangover builds, having a attack or special core for aphrodite is nice, and having curse of nausea through non-vengeances means it’s also opening curse of longing to get in your way and possibly taking away something that would really use aphro way better

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Like in your case rn you’ve doom on attack for chiron?

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You’d want aphrodite on attack >>>> doom

frank torrent
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ah, makes sense

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didn't get aphrodite offered this time unfortunately

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also don't have her keepsake yet because i only just realised how good it is to force gods

rustic vale
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Force her in aspho… wait how many god keepsakes are you missing

frank torrent
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artemis, posidon, zeus, demeter, and aphrodite

gentle ravine
frank torrent
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so... half of them

rustic vale
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A) aphrodite just works way better on a bigger base damage slower rate of fire sttack like bow
B) low tolerance is just way more useful than curse of nausea

rustic vale
frank torrent
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last run that won with the bow had aphrodite on the attack

gentle ravine
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shield special is so good for spreading curse and staying safe

frank torrent
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didn't get low tolerance tho

rustic vale
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You know what else is good for spreading status effects and staying safe? Bull rush

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and bull rush doesn’t leave you without your shield for until it comes back

gentle ravine
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bull rush also puts you in the pack if you don’t have charged shot

rustic vale
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That’s what dashing is for

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But also

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shield special just takes too long to come back

frank torrent
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is support fire useful?

rustic vale
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it’s usefulness depends on the aspect tbh

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Also, like zeus boons, it has an internal cooldown(I think)

latent moon
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Tight deadline is considered to be free heat because td1 is super generous and the average player can easily manage td2
Td3 can be a bit rough depending on what other heats you're stacking but it's still super doable with the right build
Putting doom or hangover or whatever on nonzeus shields specials and spamming the special to victory will more than likely make you lose out on free heat later in the game

frank torrent
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tight deadline is much freer than i thought it was

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it seems like it would get less free once you start stacking more heat

latent moon
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Yeah you can use it now and clear, but it's better to start good habits now, esp with good weapons like shield

latent moon
rustic vale
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Td3 is free once you get good because at that point the build doesn’t matter as much I think

frank torrent
latent moon
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Jury summons, calisthenics program, and damage control really slow you down

rustic vale
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Without thinking about js3 cp 2 mm bp2 dc2

frank torrent
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yeah, anything that actually makes every room be harder to clear wouldn't be helpful

latent moon
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Mm and bp2 don't slow you down that much tbh

rustic vale
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Not that much
But it’s still a slow down

latent moon
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Fair

frank torrent
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well time to fight hades

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with possibly the highest dps build i've found so far

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although that's not saying much

latent moon
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routed eris uses bp1 lol

rustic vale
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Because bp1 makes armoured enemies spawn sooner

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But bp2 could give you some nasty combos

latent moon
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Yeah

frank torrent
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I feel like this will just be more proof of how unfamiliar i am with this game, but what is companion battie?

rustic vale
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You can use it x times through the run

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Meg comes and does big damage in an aoe

frank torrent
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so it's worth using?

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when is it best to use?

rustic vale
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Yes?

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Generally miniboss and boss rooms

frank torrent
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ok, i'll see what it's like

rustic vale
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Also you can’t use them on Hades till he gives you permission to

frank torrent
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i haven't even beaten theseus with the shield yet wow

frank torrent
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so don't save it till then

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do I want ares on my attack with the shield?

rustic vale
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Do you have aspects?

frank torrent
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aspect of zag

rustic vale
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Given that shield is a melee weapon, it can use Merciful End

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But you could also go aphrodite attack zeus aid smair

frank torrent
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right

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i might see if i can get a merciful end thing going

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thanks

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also:
explosive return, dashing flight, or minotaur rush

rustic vale
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Oof

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Those are all pretty meh on zag shield

frank torrent
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2 special ones and one that directly contradicts the good bull rush one lol

frank torrent
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the one everyone's been telling me to get?

rustic vale
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charged shot?

frank torrent
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that one yeah

rustic vale
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I mean even with charged shot you can still use minotaur rush sometimes

frank torrent
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wait how

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how does that even work

rustic vale
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charge it to full?

frank torrent
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did not know that was how that worked lmao

rustic vale
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it works the same way with charged shot or without

frank torrent
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i genuinely thought those two were exclusive

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worth going for? or should I take a different one

rustic vale
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it’s just charged shot generally just spams

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I think minotaur rush because you won’t really be touching special

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so at least might get some value from it

frank torrent
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ok, thanks

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wait so does it matter what athena boon i have to trigger merciful end?

rustic vale
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nope

frank torrent
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she didn't offer the dash one unfortunately, i took the one for cast

rustic vale
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Which is why most of the time the combo is ares attack divine dash
You just pick up divine flourish to unlock the duo

frank torrent
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ah ok, so I still need to find divine flourish too

rustic vale
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Yes Merciful end requires (curse of agony or curse of pain) and (divine strike or divine flourish) to unlock

frank torrent
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ah, hopefully athena will show up again quickly then

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yesss, got divine flourish

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epic level too, not that i'll be using it lol

rustic vale
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What weapon?

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Oh shield right

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Yeah

frank torrent
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yep

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even spamming attack and special still is quite effective on bosses

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got divine dash, now i just need merciful end

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merciful end attained

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after finishing elysium

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also the dialogue between ares and athena is fantastic

mighty hornet
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can i stack perfect shot with explosion shot? are those things called "aspects"? i was told i couldnt stack "aspects", but it seems like both of those upgrades are in my kit

gentle ravine
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Aspects are the forms of the weapon. Explosive Shot and Perfect Shot are upgrades to the weapon from Daedalus’s Hammer.

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There are a few hammers that are mutually exclusive, but most can be combined just fine.

mighty hornet
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got it, thanks

brisk trail
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first time i failed tight deadline

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i genuinely thought i was gonna die and have my run ended

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but wtf didnt expect to just take 5 dmg every second

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am i the only one who thought that if u take longer than the timer u would die?

rustic vale
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they can stack but they stack additively

rustic vale
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I also thought that initially

cyan jolt
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Why does Charon hit so damn hard

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Lost 3 death defiances to him

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Rip my run ig

brisk trail
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charon is cracked

noble quarry
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have you tried not dying

cyan jolt
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Not yet

brisk trail
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charon is so cool

gritty aspen
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is it odd that i have hades on my pc, xbox and switch--

brisk trail
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nah not at all

gritty aspen
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im like lowkey obsessed lmao

brisk trail
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that’s so fair

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hades is such a good game

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and I mean you can take your switch around so you can play it in other places

gritty aspen
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yesss thats what im doing now XD

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im legit at work about to do a run

sour sparrow
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I've bought this game three times and beat it twice (and beat it beat it once 👀 ) Easily one of my fav games ever zagluv

gritty aspen
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i wish more people played around me 😦 I neeed to discuss it somewhere

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but luckily im here now 😄

sour sparrow
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Thats how I feel! I praise this game all the time and feel like noone else knows about it zagsnooze

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I do need a HADES x SMITE collab tho

void vigil
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i bought it three times - on epic when it first came out, steam when it released there, and a ps4 physical copy (even though i dont have a ps4 lol)

sour sparrow
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@void vigil I got it on Switch, then PC, then bought a PS5 Digital copy

latent moon
woven plinth
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Nice

brisk trail
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I wanna get hades on the ps4

old dawn
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i like this one, it's pretty unique in a lot of unexpected ways

solar dawn
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im haveing a problem with hades on steam becoes it cant be synced for some reason and i have lost all my saves on game i have tryed to fix it but it didnt work, and since im kinda scared to d*** aroud files with guides i wanted to as someone if this has happednt to them before ik i shoud just go to #h1-tech-fixes but just as i said im kinda scared that something will go wrong can someon help me or at lest point me to the right direction ?

high island
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Not the first time something like that has happened. They'll be able to help you there.

solar dawn
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ty

dull niche
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me too lol

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got this game bc my roommates were playing it

signal aspen
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imagine your roommate plays the same game youre playing and then becomes the fastest speedrunner in the world

frank torrent
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wait i've still got someone undiscovered in the codex under the others of note section

lean timber
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i started playing because of

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alpharad 💀

latent moon
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When did he mention this game lol

frank torrent
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what combination should i go for to get to 3 heat?

signal aspen
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em2

twilit lodge
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Td2

frank torrent
twilit lodge
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TD1 MM

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FO1

signal aspen
frank torrent
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i might just go for FO

signal aspen
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what about td1

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i dont really recommend fo just yet

twilit lodge
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FO1 is fairly free heat

frank torrent
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i haven't done td1, but i think i'm going fast enough

signal aspen
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try td1 em1 and another 1 heat option of your choice

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probably like hl1 or lc1

frank torrent
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i kinda want to do em on it's own first

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might do it on a different weapon then see how it looks

signal aspen
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nobody cares what you think

frank torrent
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so I have 2 god keeepsakes and 1 other keepsake left to get, the one other is in the bottom row and it's the 4th one

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who do i need to gift to get that one?

sacred walrus
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@latent moon getting all boons is hard, just a bit rng, for many gods i have like 2-3 boons, same for the hammer that i never see

rustic vale
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Just make sure you have dark foresight on

lean timber
frank torrent
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oh

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ok

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i was worrying that i'd missed someone

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i'll just find posidion and demeter

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oh of course there is someone I can't gift yet

rich herald
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Anyone else like to bully Alecto by killing her with the spike traps? Ever since like the second or third time fighting her I've just had this self-made rule where she MUST die by spike trap. I take so much damage sometimes sticking to this but it's so easy to get her to run over them as much as needed, even with Extreme Measures. I love it. Tis and Meg don't have anything like that, just tricking them into dashing somewhere. Meg always goes past the spikes for me so eh

rustic vale
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No
Mainly because I like funny victory screen timer being low

umbral summit
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Still on my quest to find the Defiance chaos boon

tepid light
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i heard that if you ping all of the supergiant employees and recite every swear word you can think of in the chat, you will get the defiance boon on your next run

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Each swear word you say above 30 increases your chances of getting defiance by 1%

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So if you want to guarantee it, you have to say 130 swear words total

umbral summit
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well, that happened

lean timber
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me when i use zagreus' aspect of sawblade (when he reloads his gun, two sawblades cross directly in front of him)

latent moon
signal aspen
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just get the boons

lean timber
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what does tart mean

signal aspen
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tart

lean timber
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huh

rustic vale
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Classic Matty

lean timber
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thanks for sharing this really broadened my horizons

twilit lodge
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It means sour or tangy

lean timber
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mmm sour

gleaming grove
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What Gods is best forchiron? Normally I take poseidon on special for the utterly massive damage boost it gives and Athena or arte or poseidon on attack, but is that the norm?

twilit lodge
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Poseidon is the second lowest damage boost

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Aphrodite is massive damage boost on special

gleaming grove
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Rlly?

vital tapir
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not by much

twilit lodge
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Dio is good if you don’t think you’ll get concentrated volley

gleaming grove
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I never knew cause aphro has a kinda underwhelming effect

vital tapir
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pos tier 2a are a lot better

twilit lodge
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With concentrated and relentless volley, Aphrodite shines on Chiron special

rustic vale
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On special he is second highest

twilit lodge
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Oic

gleaming grove
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Oh then I'm right

rustic vale
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and that’s % damage boost though

twilit lodge
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You’re still not right

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Because Poseidon special isn’t that good

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Lol

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Weak is amazing

rustic vale
vital tapir
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it’s not that bad either

gleaming grove
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Ok why

lean timber
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solution: don't run chiron

gleaming grove
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No it's fun

rustic vale
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Anyways if you’re using chiron you’d probably want drunken flourish or deadly flourish

lean timber
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deadly flourish is good on chiron

rustic vale
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Meant deadly flourish

lean timber
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aphro attack, arty special -> heart rend

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easy minigun special

rustic vale
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Aphro attack, dio special -> low tolerance

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But

latent moon
rustic vale
latent moon
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i dont read

rustic vale
twilit lodge
rustic vale
gleaming grove
latent moon
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true

rustic vale
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The low base damage of chiron makes pos special kinda meh

twilit lodge
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You could also do Demeter attack and aphro special with privileged status

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For a very safe build

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That doesn’t need any duos

gleaming grove
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Well that was an interesting convo but I should have asked about aegis

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Cause I got 20% bonus on it

twilit lodge
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For aegis, aphro attack and charged shot hammer is all you need

latent moon
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zeus shield wants explosive return more than cshot

gleaming grove
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It's weird how I just kinda fell off of aegis, I used to only use aegis and then I just stopped using it. Especially after after unlocking malphon

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And I use chaos

twilit lodge
latent moon
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chaos shield moment

rustic vale
gleaming grove
#

Also extreme measure lernie is easy af idk what you guys were talking about.

rustic vale
#

Em2 fo2 lernie is

#

Can be rough

gleaming grove
#

Ok so I just looked at what fo does and my only question... is what does that even look like, because in my head im imagining something very goofy

rustic vale
#

?

#

40% more attack speed and movespeed

gleaming grove
#

Yeah what would that even look like

latent moon
#

everything's just faster

rustic vale
#

too many projectiles
Too many head slams too often

latent moon
#

oh that's what you mean lmao

vital tapir
#

40% more lernie heads

#

round up

latent moon
#

yeah trans lernie head slams you very fast so you're likely to get hit many times

latent moon
#

where'd you get that from

rustic vale
#

nah that’s JS2

vital tapir
#

it says in the fo2 description

latent moon
#

bruh lmao

vital tapir
#

“Increase enemy move speed, attack speed, and boss count by 20% per rank.”

rustic vale
#

Why

#

The heck

gleaming grove
#

Epic heartbreak strike or parting shot?

rustic vale
#

Strike

#

Parting shot only matters for cast builds

gleaming grove
#

Bet

twilit lodge
latent moon
#

parting shot for money

gleaming grove
#

What do you guys take from eurydice? I usually take pom porridge

rustic vale
#

Increased rarity for next 3 booms

twilit lodge
#

Boom

gleaming grove
#

Second hammer, in elysium currently,chaos run. Charged shot dashing flight,or dread flight?

twilit lodge
#

Charged shot is the best hammer for shield

#

Hands down

frank torrent
#

because it's consistently decent I have another chiron hangover/weakness build

#

i need blood

twilit lodge
#

Get dat blood

frank torrent
#

also i'm dating meg again and it's very satisfying

#

sweet nectar, yay

gleaming grove
#

I always be hoping I can get demeter cast but when I want it I never get it

frank torrent
#

are there any bonuses to meg's keepsake now that i have the maxed relationship?

twilit lodge
#

No

frank torrent
#

kk

gleaming grove
#

Ok finished my aegis aphro run and tbh... aphro is mid as hell,the damage was so underwhelming.

latent moon
gleaming grove
#

Yeah

latent moon
#

So how was the damage underwhelming bouldy

#

You don't have a better option here

#

Unless you went Artemis with chaos additives

gleaming grove
#

I did have chaos "additives" lol

#

But I've had stronger runs

latent moon
#

Well you were using chaos shield

#

And if you used the special that probably weakened the run

gleaming grove
#

No special sucks and is unbearably weak

latent moon
#

okay then yeah you literally have the 2nd best damage output for chaos shield, cshot and heartbreak strike

#

the first being merciful end

gleaming grove
#

That's notably one of my strongest runs

#

An ares and Athena run with merciful end

latent moon
#

yeah literally because merciful end is one of the strongest, if not the strongest, duo in the game

#

but i wouldnt call the damage "underwhelming" tbh

#

base 80, common lvl 1 heartbreak strike is 50% so a constant 120 through the run

gleaming grove
#

I had epic strike

latent moon
#

lvl 1 epic is 90-100% bouldy

gleaming grove
#

It did get better after I started mainly using cshot

latent moon
#

the only thing that would've made it better was starting with cshot and heroic strike

#

and like

#

smair

gleaming grove
#

Idk I feel like you guys gassed aphro a bit too much, like it would melt and it didnt

latent moon
#

i mean it's just the best option

#

for many many builds

#

because she has the highest damaging atk, special, and cast

#

and like, chaos shield is one of the worst aspects in the game

#

zag shield giving it an extra 15 damage is just a stronger option at that point

#

zeus doesn't care about the atk boon at that point, doesnt even want cshot
and beo uses aprho cast at high heat for consistency

#

and there's plenty of other aspects that want aphrodite for damage

#

some builds will make it melt, others it's just high consistent damage

#

like cshot shield

gleaming grove
#

Hmmm maybe I should try again with malphon or nemesis

latent moon
#

fists only want aphrodite for the special

#

and that would mean you'd be going zap or drunk fists

#

nem gets access to heart rend with aphrodite so that's fine

high island
#

It's the worst Aegis aspect, but it's still Aegis.

frank torrent
#

beat theseus without a death defied, hopefully that means hades will go well

high island
#

Nice. dusa

#

Good luck!

frank torrent
#

and hades let me leave because i'm at that point inthe story apparently

#

damn it

#

wanted to see how good this build was... probably not great honestly lmao

#

oh

#

so have i finished the main story

high island
#

Congratulations! dusa

frank torrent
#

i didn't know that was about to happen

#

but it did

#

so yay go me lmao

frank torrent
#

Actually, what are the requirements for hidden aspects to start showing up?

frank torrent
#

Ah, thx

#

I fulfilled the requirements for the spear a while back

#

I guess patroclus, Persephone, and other dialogue things are coming up instead

marble mesa
#

just got the fishing rod, how do I fish?

gray apex
marble mesa
#

k thanks

twilit lodge
#

If there’s a fishing spot in the very first chamber you can fish at it before picking up the boon/hammer

silver nimbus
#

quick question does pierced butterfly and lambent plume buffs apply after you switch keepsake

#

aww shucks

gray moth
#

I like the butterfly but it's pretty hard to use for its intended purpose

void vigil
#

why are all the god keepsakes in c and dio in d :(

gray moth
#

The collar is a D?

#

That was my go to when i first started playing

#

The collar

#

I think I should spefic that

void vigil
#

oh ur right it is old

#

its the bone hourglass

#

hm?

lean timber
#

lol

heavy sigil
#

????

#

acorn done dirty

sacred walrus
#

Is there a way to trigger more fishes in chaos and earth ? Except poseidon's boon.

lean timber
#

i think eclipse/affluence should increase chances

mint coral
#

@latent moon i dont feel the 30% from ice wine is that good tbh, mirage + 1-2 extra casts is overkill on most things

#

delay is just annoying

latent moon
#

Yeah it's annoying but from when I was using icy flare I still hit the shots I needed to so it wasn't that bad tbh

mint coral
#

icy flare with ice wine dusa

latent moon
#

Also I feel like getting mirage on trippy flare is just difficult to do considering it's 2 different gods than you're starting with

latent moon
mint coral
#

i cant say anything on that regard

#

i've never used icy flare

latent moon
#

It's an experience

mint coral
latent moon
#

Esp at 40 heat bouldy

mint coral
#

or resetting for at least arte or pos in tart

latent moon
#

Ah I'm not a hardcore reset gamer lol

mint coral
#

depending on heat i would even go as far to force another god in ely

rustic vale
latent moon
#

Truly

mint coral
#

icy flare sure is a cast

rustic vale
mint coral
#

on topic of trippy flare tho i still funny i have a sub with it when not even trying to speedrun

#

turns out that getting both mirage gods as early as ch4 makes it mirage easy to get

latent moon
#

Lmao it do be like that

#

I got a sub8 on trippy beo on accident

quiet lily
#

Boons for aspect of lucifer?

#

I haven't really used it all that much, so I'm not sure what's good with it.

lean timber
#

ares attack, zeus special. hope this helps 👍

quiet lily
#

And what 2 other gods?

#

Or is this a Hera bow case where those 2 gods and whatever is good enough as long as I get those 2 core boons to tbe build?

#

Which first, ares attack or zeus special?

rustic vale
quiet lily
#

Bruh

rustic vale
#

Lightning strike and aphro special and splash dash, zeus or some other call, hope for triple bomb, explode bombs asap via lightning strike or your dash

#

Any damage to the bombs will make them explode and exploding them is how to get damage from them

rustic vale
#

Top 12
Chaos cast
Bouldy cast

hardy spear
#

top 13

#

zagreus cast

rustic vale
#

That was already accounted for

hardy spear
worn karma
#

How do I unlock ambrosia dialogs with Sysiphus?

hardy spear
#

i think you negotiate on his sentence with other characters too

#

maybe hades and meg

#

most of the ambrosia things can be unlocked by just talking to everyone

worn karma
#

I feel like I’m at a point where no one has exclamation dialogs antmore

#

Anymore

#

I’ll just keep trying

#

Maybe I can already gift bouldy and I didnT notice

rugged flicker
#

What happens if you “be with meg?”

lean timber
#

then you start dating

rugged flicker
#

😳

#

But i want to be with thanatos

frank torrent
#

you can do both

#

at the same time

rugged flicker
#

😳

#

okay thanks

#

wanted to make sure

#

Before i ruined my save file

quiet lily
#

I'm at a choice between a 2nd hammer or midshop in Elysium rn.

twilit lodge
#

Midshop

latent moon
#

how many times has that hammer shown up in ely

quiet lily
#

First time

latent moon
#

yeah midshop then

#

it'll show up after midshop probably

#

might give you a choice between miniboss or hammer there

#

if it's 2 minibosses, it'll probably be after miniboss

near finch
#

how to be with Meg, btw? I have both relationships maxed out: with Meg, and with Thanatos, I mean. just for the sake of completionism.
but in fact, Zag is giggling with Than in the bedroom with the lights out, you can only imagine what else they were doing there; and nothing going on with Meg

frank torrent
#

wait how is it possible to reject meg?

near finch
#

and what's wrong with Dusa? I gave her 4 ambrosia for the last heart, 3 for the one before that, isn't it too much for 1 heart?
I have max hearts with Dusa, her companion, but no bond (no small picture on her keepsake) - what does this bond do anyway?

latent moon
#

go to her or ease off are the options when she appears in your room

frank torrent
#

oh, haven't seen that bit yet then ig

near finch
#

I don't think so. I don't remember rejecting her. I don't remember such dialogue with her. with Thanatos - yes (I chose the wrong answer, apparently, not thinking about repercussions)

frank torrent
#

Exclusive access and Low tolerance AT THE SAME TIME

#

really dionysus

latent moon
#

well

#

just take low tolerance lol

#

unless youre in tart

#

then take e access

frank torrent
#

exactly, took low tolerance

#

if exclusive access shows up again i might grab it

latent moon
#

where are you rn in the run

frank torrent
#

that was elysium midshop

latent moon
#

well i guess e access wouldn't hurt if you find it then lol

#

if you get it in like late ely then it's prob not that worth it

near finch
#

no, I chose go to Thanatos. I didn't expect sweet homo love. it's not like I automatically rejected Meg with that answer, right?

frank torrent
#

exactly yeah, i'm going to keep focusing down dio boons anyway

near finch
#

I guess. it was only Thanatos in Zag's bedroom. he talked something about their relationship and stuff. then it was two dialogue options, and that's it
I think I never had similar conversation with Megaera. I met her in Zag's bedroom once, but that was long before all hearts were maxed out

latent moon
#

no

#

she appears in the bedroom before that iirc

frank torrent
#

she shows up to alllow you to give her ambrosia

#

does the other scene where you get to actually decide about a relationship come before or after that

#

achilles finally told me "i see you through the eyes of the crimson phoenix"

#

took forever

#

soooo is guan yu any good?

heavy sigil
#

uhhhhg

#

its

#

an aspect for sure

worn karma
#

Speaking of be with… is there a Dusa “sex” scene like the one with Meg and Than?

gray moth
#

No im pretty sure not

#

Since dusas thing is well platonic

worn karma
#

Ah ok

#

Tbh don’t really mind cause I dont like her very much 😁

gray moth
#

I like how in the end its simply platonic tbh

worn karma
#

Not even Nyx likes her
No one likes her
Zagreus is just a nice goody-two-shoes guy

gray moth
#

Meg likes her

#

I think she's an enjoyable character just not my favorite

worn karma
#

Dominant people like submissive ones mrtuesday

#

Meg and Dusa have the same voice actress right?
It’s funny how it’s noticeable even though they have opposite personalities

gray moth
#

I don't know

woven plinth
#

🇧🇷

dull niche
#

dusa’s great she’s jus doin her best

woven plinth
#

Meg or than. Go

dull niche
#

also no meg and dusa have different VA’s

worn karma
#

Really? Mmmmmm

gray moth
#

They dong

worn karma
gray moth
#

Meg-Avalon Penrose
Dusa-Courtney Vineys

worn karma
#

Between meg and than I have no preferece. They’re both cool

woven plinth
#

🤨

gray moth
#

I like thanatos

woven plinth
#

That’s weird that both of their last names relate to plants

gray moth
#

A lil

woven plinth
gray moth
#

Hes really pretty

woven plinth
#

Like. Really really, pretty you mean, I mean have you seen his abs?!

worn karma
#

Who, than?

woven plinth
#

Yeah

worn karma
#

I think the pretties boy is zag himself and prettiest girl is aphrodite

mint coral
#

Than front facing sprite is still funny

woven plinth
gray moth
#

I have a hades obsession

#

The game makes me very happy

woven plinth
#

I think I just love Greek thing in general

gray moth
#

I liked the movies never got to the books tho

gray moth
worn karma
#

They should make a Hades anime on Netflix

gray moth
#

Id watch it

woven plinth
worn karma
#

It would be a hit

woven plinth
gray moth
woven plinth
gray moth
frank torrent
#

so i got sigil of the dead

#

is it any good?

woven plinth
#

Yoo it’s good be of the best

worn karma
#

Which one is that?

woven plinth
#

I still use it

worn karma
#

The hades call?

woven plinth
#

It’s the one hades gives you right?

frank torrent
#

yeah

woven plinth
gray moth
#

I don't have it yet

#

I think

#

Idk i only use like 2 different ones

worn karma
#

Currently i only use persephone’s or a specific deity if I want their boobs

#

Boons

frank torrent
#

what's a good set of pacts for heat 6?

worn karma
#

Really? I find aphrodite’s the worst ones

gray moth
#

I use thanatos's or cerebus's

frank torrent
#

she's one that I regularly force actually

worn karma
#

I use poseidon or aphrodite

#

Or zeus

frank torrent
#

apparently pierced butterfly isn't worth it

worn karma
#

I used to use it a lot, but I didnt know u lost the bonus if u removed it

frank torrent
#

and i usually find enough life that i don't need the collar

gray moth
#

It is kinda worth it but yeah

frank torrent
#

now i force in gods then go to persephone or euridice

gray moth
#

Nice

mint coral
#

and kinda risky at higher heats

gray moth
#

It is for me at least

twilit lodge
#

Boobs

umbral summit
#

Nice, only 1 fish left

hardy spear
#

shackle start

frank torrent
#

i've gotten to 50% on butterfly once

rustic vale
#

it’s so much more worth it to force a god in tartarus or asphodel and then equipping it for elysium and styx isn’t enough

umbral summit
#

Theseus comments if you have a Yarn of Ariadne on you? That feels so random

noble quarry
mint coral
noble quarry
#

you know what they say 3 head is better then 1

twilit lodge
mint coral
#

Doesnt he mention about theseus abandoning Ariadne

drifting elbow
#

ok i might be wrong but do the chaos aspect extra shields seriously not bounce? they seem to disappear when hitting the wall unlike the main shield

lean timber
#

they do not bounce no

drifting elbow
#

well thats disappointing, oh well

mint coral
#

Chaos shield moment

hardy spear
#

when theseus calls for dio's help dio hits theseus a bit as well

twilit lodge
#

Quite possibly the least disappointing thing about chaos shield

brisk trail
#

is there a huge tier list for all boons in the game

rustic vale
#

Not really

#

I don’t think

#

it’s also rough because they become real subjective based on your aspect

#

And the other boons you have

brisk trail
#

would be interesting

twilit lodge
rustic vale
#

They ain’t that goofy
But they’d probably put stubborn roots in SSS

latent moon
#

They put Rd in like c lol

lean timber
#

what's the issue with that

twilit lodge
#

Rd sucks, too hard to find

rustic vale
#

Rd sucks because greater haste is too small of a boost and redditors don’t use dash

#

and they probably misunderstand how rd works as well

brisk trail
#

why are redditors bad at hades???

umbral summit
#

The people who know the least are the loudest, like in most formats

rustic vale
lean timber
#

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!!!

latent moon
#

Found the redditor

rustic vale
latent moon
#

There is no arc, he's always going to be a redditor

near finch
twilit lodge
#

Girls are yucky!!

lean timber
eternal marsh
#

would i get sued by supergiant if i print one of their old posters

#

i'm sure it's fine

high island
#

You can print whatever you want if it's for personal use.

eternal marsh
old dawn
#

not to say it's completely useless, sometimes I see gems of posts but it's mostly art/in-depth programming blog x-posts

twilit lodge
#

Reddit is good for my trash gacha game (afk arena) and sometimes monster hunter

signal aspen
#

Reddit is good for

raw herald
#

_ _

twilit lodge
#

Redditn’t

slim geyser
#

Reddit truly is the website of all time

latent moon
#

it really is a website of all time

umbral summit
#

I haven't been able to give Eurydice any gifts in the last 15 runs or so D:

#

About 10 of those she didn't show up as an option, and the rest had her in a duet with Orpheus so I can't give anything

sacred walrus
#

Just finished the epilogue, a bit disappointed, i thought it would have more dialogues, like with Demeter ect, but that was such a nice game, so rare to have Greek mythology in games ^^. I don't think i'll finish the whole thing (titles, boons, hearts, side story of thanatos) because it's a bit rng for some of them and it slowly becomes repetitive to me.

rustic vale
robust urchin
#

so i beat hades 10 times

#

got Persephone to return

#

anything more to the main storyline?

rustic vale
#

Epilogue

#

There is more in the main storyline

umbral summit
#

Well, that was quite the circus of a run

#

Was doing Beowulf w/ Poseidon cast and Ares normal. Was going well, then I got offered Curse of Drowning, which I assumed would have worked similar to Snow Burst with Beowulf

#

No, turns out it works very differently, changing my cast in a way that I hated because it requires you to stay next to mobs for like 3 seconds to hit them with all the casts

#

So I went to sell it, but then accidentally sold Flood Flare by mistake...

rustic vale
#

“And ares as normal” what

latent moon
#

lmfao

umbral summit
#

So now I had a Poseidon build that relied on a cast I no longer had

rustic vale
#

If running ares on beo is normal then I’m living in a different universe

umbral summit
#

on normal attack

rustic vale
#

just in general

umbral summit
#

Not as in what I normally do

latent moon
rustic vale
#

Curse of agony

latent moon
#

that's what i did before i knew about the mirage bug lol

rustic vale
latent moon
#

agony is attack

#

pain is special

rustic vale
#

Whatever

umbral summit
#

So yeah, I ruined my build on accident and had crap DPS for the rest of the run

rustic vale
#

whichever*

umbral summit
#

Replaced it with Hunter's Flare because that's the only thing I got offered before Theseus

rustic vale
#

So by normal you mean on attack

umbral summit
#

yeah

#

normal attack

rustic vale
#

Just

#

Attack

umbral summit
#

They're technically all attacks

rustic vale
#

you don’t call special “special attack” or cast “cast attack”

umbral summit
#

I sometimes call special special attack, tho

rustic vale
#

Neither would you call attack “attack attack”

umbral summit
#

not cast attack, though

rustic vale
#

For the sake of comprehensive conversation

#

Call it “attack”

umbral summit
#

If I remember to, sure

rustic vale
#

Kr likes

#

Stirke

#

A

#

Strike*

umbral summit
#

Finally got Defiance after over 300 boons checked with prerequisite, and it happened on the first run that I turned off God's Legacy and stopped using Cosmic Egg and floors 2/3.

Almost makes me wonder if those boosts are glitched and lower Chaos's legendary rate or something, lol

latent moon
#

Legacy is a scam

umbral summit
#

Legacy was very useful when farming my missing duo boons, but it just didn't seem to do anything for Chaos

feral belfry
#

How do you proc the Achilles and patty quest? I know talk to them a lot but can I die over and over to keep talking to Achilles or do I have to make it to patty to start it

#

It's taking forever it seems

#

He hasn't given me new dialogue in a while

feral belfry
#

No both their hearts are maxed

#

Just locked out of the last one, trying to reunite them for the trophy

#

Not sure, they've been talking about each other for a while

rustic vale
#

Eventually patty will say something specific and then you’ll relay it to achilles

feral belfry
#

Ah, so I can't keep dying round one and going Achilles

#

Gotta have patty proc it

rustic vale
#

It’s like

#

I’m trying to remember what it was

#

uh

#

I’m blanking

#

Google time

#

Patty’s phrase will be “Risk it all”

#

Thanks Hades wiki

#

Then after that and after you relay it to achilles you’ll need to buy his contract

feral belfry
#

Ty

#

Guess I gotta grind to Elysium then

hardy spear
#

it doesn't say just +1 armoured fow

#

wait do elysium minibosses even change with mm

vital tapir
#

asterius doesn’t, soul catcher teleports around

lean timber
#

technically soul catcher does not teleport fun fact

#

it picks a random point and moves incredibly fast to that point then stops immediately at it

#

so status effects like shared suffering, jolted, rupture, etc. still apply

lean timber
#

yep

final wharf
#

the pony qol mod is not refunding blood can someone help pls asking here as well as modded because maybe someoen has used it before

latent moon
#

ask the modding server lol

#

i will say that the speedrunning mod isn't supposed to refund blood at all tho

#

mainly by people tryharding speedrunning

latent moon
#

no

#

you can only toggle hell mode on or off

latent moon
#

what

#

idk what you're trying to say now

#

you can't get pl without turning on hell mode, and if you turn on hell mode, you can't take cp0, js0 and whatnot

latent moon
#

Toggling hell mode on turns them on automatically

twilit lodge
#

I think toggling with the speedrun mod does but save editing to turn it on and off leaves it on

#

Someone a while ago had that issue in here if I’m remembering correctly

unkempt thorn
#

Hades went off gamepass a while ago still can't stop thinking about

#

Goated game would be cool with an endless mode or smth

lean timber
#

the entire game is endless mode

twilit lodge
#

I think they mean like… endless run

lean timber
#

i disagree

#
  • ratio
steep bobcat
#

money is gone

#

must eat good boy hoodie

raw herald
#

Bro just pinged everyone

trail bane
#

Hello. Does anyone know if there is any news about the release of the game "Hades" on gog? There are many of us waiting for it there 😕 Thank

lean timber
#

what is gog

narrow hemlock
#

GOG.com (formerly Good Old Games) is a digital distribution platform for video games and films. It is operated by GOG sp. z o.o., a wholly owned subsidiary of CD Projekt based in Warsaw, Poland. GOG.com delivers DRM-free video games through its digital platform for Microsoft Windows, macOS and Linux.

shut kite
lean timber
#

what is the WORLD is that??

#

never so much as heard even a name drop before

#

that's crazy

trail bane
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That would be disappointing though. The studio has never confirmed a release. But since there are all the other games of the studio. We still had hope to see "Hades" released.

ivory perch
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merch cool

old dawn
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meh

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no reason to release on steam and not gog nowadays imo

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unless you're heavily making use of steam apis for some stuff like matchmaking

ivory perch
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for some reason, fangamer eu price is higher than the dollar price, so even I am in eu, should I just get the dollar price? I mean they still deliver?

dry falcon
twilit lodge
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Ayo that desk mat on fangamer looks sick

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And the cerby hoodie

nimble laurel
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aspect of zeus carried me through alot of the game

twilit lodge
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Aspect of WHOs?

latent moon
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World health organization

nimble laurel
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if i misspelled it but the shield you can aoe throw

twilit lodge
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No I was just making a joke because Zeus is a nobody

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Smelly creepy old geezer!!

nimble laurel
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oh ok

latent moon
trail bane
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Not everyone enjoys being dependent on steam. After I know that the game is drmfree on steam. But it's always nicer to have a nice ready-made installation file.

wise wren
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oh that Meg shirt looks AMAZING zagluv and the Cerberus hoodie! I wish I could get the Meg one as a hoodie but! holy smokes, great designs

prisma pebble
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Anyone know if they do sales for the merch (black friday/holiday stuff)?

trim pendant
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has anyone gotten t-shirts from FanGamer before? the Nyx shirt is badass but the store listing doesn't show both sides, and i'm not a fan of t-shirts with branding and crap on the back. I've had this issue before with merch having that as a fun surprise

trail bane
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I prefer to support financially the team that deserves it 💪

tired karma
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would u want to see hades skins in fortnite

void vigil
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i got more than one shirt and they are all blank on the back

rustic vale
silent chasm
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Still no hypnos pin? What a disappointment

twilit lodge
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Yeah that looks so sick

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Too bad a keyboard would cover the sigil

analog elbow
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Hang it on the wall, eastern euro style

worn karma
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Looks like a card game mat

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Pure awesomeness

nimble laurel
twilit lodge
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I wanna cop the cerby hoodie bad

noble quarry
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yeah might get that mat but i think either 18 or monday europe is getting stuff to so will wait

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the other new merch they got where more pins some shirt and:

swift inlet
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My girlfriend started playing Hades today :D

twilit lodge
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Girlfriend moment

latent moon
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Heck yeah buddy

twilit lodge
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Imaginary girlfriend moment

robust urchin
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just start taking pills that amplify her

chilly sonnet
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If you abandon an escape attempt do you lose your streak

twilit lodge
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No

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It takes you back to before you started the run

noble quarry
noble quarry
nimble laurel
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hot buttery cheese cakes i wasnt expecting chariot

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ok time to take on hades upgraded

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wait why did cerberus show up

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damn

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got destroyed by the final phase

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i made it about half way with his health bar but thats about it

old dawn
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if you crank that up to 32 heat, same for me

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i need to git gudder at not taking damage

nimble laurel
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no i just made it all bosses stronger heat 11 i think since i added extra enemies and extra blue health

old dawn
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hl5 fo2 em4 hurts

nimble laurel
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ok 12

old dawn
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doesnt help that after swapping to ruthless reflex i just cant turn it off else i take one million damage lol

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  • i dont even use the extra dash 90% of the time
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well i am aspect of bouldy so bouldy

wraith sand
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aight, so haven't played this game in like a month

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so booted out my old save and started again in hell mode

latent moon
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based

nimble laurel
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i would love to ask why cerberus showed up during my attempt where i faced actually hard hades

wraith sand
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almost got to elysium at the 2nd escape attempt

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forgot how much 1 dash hurts

latent moon
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because why not