dstrike or atk
#h1-discussion
latent moon
hardy spear
yeah thought so
latent moon
for castpects i think it's more important i believe
warm nimbus
yeah but being able to go for the build you want with like a guaranteed hammer and stuff is so nice
hearty kestrel
quick question about ricochet fire for the rail: can the ricochet crit and apply 'marked' to the original target?
lean timber
yeah for sure it's a great argument for it and i've really thought about it
but i simply can't make it worth in my head
hardy spear
modded speedrunning is for the giga gamers trying to get like sub6
warm nimbus
quick question about ricochet fire for the rail: can the ricochet crit and apply...
yeah, i dont see why not
lean timber
the whole "cheating" thing is not really ironic for me lol. i know it's not cheating but it just feels wrong to me
warm nimbus
as long as it hits something else then crits it should apply marked to the original
latent moon
it feels wrong until you use it and then you're like "damn this nice"
warm nimbus
yeah idk i just dont see that
hardy spear
its like the opposite of ap and ri1
latent moon
also you can turn off all the stuff the mod gives you lmao
latent moon
which is what i'm gonna do instead of uninstalling when i go back to my main save file
hearty kestrel
change my mind
vanilla hades is not awful
hardy spear
even with mods the game is still unbearably awful tho lets be real
patent mesa
vanilla hades is not awful
yes it is
latent moon
even with mods the game is still unbearably awful tho lets be real
actually true
lean timber
modded is vanilla hades but not awful
i think the styx rng is in-character for the location. i mean, you're in hell, it's supposed to be frustrating and difficult...
latent moon
armored exalted archers in phase 1 dad 
patent mesa
i think the styx rng is in-character for the location. i mean, you're in hell, i...
bad game design is actually in-game flavor
lol
don't make excuses
lean timber
literally and unironically
patent mesa
it's just bad design
patent mesa
k
warm nimbus
it's just bad design
i mean tbh i think its fine casually
latent moon
what styx rng, like tunnel length and room spawns?
hardy spear
it's not bad game design it's just being a rouge like, the game wasnt built with speedrunning as a priority
patent mesa
it's not bad game design it's just being a rouge like, the game wasnt built with...
then why isn't sack rng affected by TD
that's the true bad design
warm nimbus
yeah i think sack rng should be affected by td
its unfortunate that that doesnt exist though
lean timber
ok see yeah that's bad design i agree
but at the same time if you lose the run because of a five sack skill issue just do better next time and go faster and also don't get a 5 sack
rustic vale
Its bad game design that cruel thrust doesn’t apply to d-strikes amd that pulv blow doesn’t apply to bullrush 
warm nimbus
yeah the skill issue that has nothing to do with skill
hardy spear
the issue
lean timber
the issue
hardy spear
i am the issue
patent mesa
skill-less shoe
warm nimbus
tbh i really like in modded that once i get to ely endshop theres no more rng that i have to deal with
rustic vale
Skishoe
warm nimbus
like if i get a 4:30 ely leave that run is going to sub6
hardy spear
unless?
latent moon
just get the 2 sack idk what else to tell you
rustic vale
Gettinf 5 sack is a skill issue
patent mesa
tbh i really like in modded that once i get to ely endshop theres no more rng th...
what about first chamber length rng
warm nimbus
what about first chamber length rng
ah yeah sorry forgot about the 4s timeloss
hardy spear
what about 3 insta darknesses
rustic vale
Gettinf 5 sack is a skill issue
Should’ve just rng manipulated into 2 sack smh
patent mesa
ah yeah sorry forgot about the 4s timeloss
what if I'm an epic chiron speedrunner without splash dash
warm nimbus
what about 3 insta darknesses
ok true darkness sucks but thats what dad call is for
patent mesa
then it's like 10s time loss probably
lean timber
darkness. darkness. darkness. darkness. darkness. darkness. darkness. d
warm nimbus
what if I'm an epic chiron speedrunner without splash dash
then youre doing something wrong
patent mesa
excuse me I'm posting you on r/hades for chiron slander
warm nimbus
lmao
rustic vale
what if I'm an epic chiron speedrunner without splash dash
You aren’t going into styx w/ no splash dash on chiron
hardy spear
ive never understood game bosses that just disappear for a bit where you cant damage them as a random attack
hardy spear
so you have to time cry
lean timber
works better in games with mana or whatever but it still applies sort of
warm nimbus
excuse me I'm posting you on r/hades for chiron slander
there is no way this is legit- i just beat 32 heat today, and it took me 40 minutes to clear. 53 heat seems completely impossible and winning in 17 minutes on 53 heat is ridiculous. Aspect of zagreus on the shield isnt a very good aspect as well, something like trippy beo or chiron kills everything instantly so im really surprised you managed to do it this fast. also, it says that the game is modded in the top right- im assuming this is cheated then, especially with previous evidence. honestly shame on you for trying to pass off your modded 53 heat clear as legitimate. i cant believe you would try using a cheat engine with the words on the screen and think that we couldnt see it. im going to downvote this post.
Edit: i just noticed the victory screen, a 6:46 clear time is impossible. nice try bucko.
latent moon
nice try bucko
hardy spear
i love gamers
patent mesa
I love the people who went "yeah sounds about right I trust you"
rustic vale
Lmao
slim geyser
cheat engine users
slim geyser
Lmao-
rustic vale
“A 6:46 clear time is impossible. nice try bucko”
warm nimbus
rustic vale
Lmfao
rustic vale
“A 6:46 clear time is impossible. nice try bucko”
Source?
slim geyser
hardy spear
how do people have the patience to do runs lasting more than 25 minutes and not just run at the enemy nonstop until they die
slim geyser
Wow its broken
hardy spear
wait wait i got this
latent moon
warm nimbus
latent moon
damn
slim geyser
how do people have the patience to do runs lasting more than 25 minutes and not ...
my first clear was about 60 minutes lmao
warm nimbus
there we go
hardy spear
latent moon
lmfao
slim geyser
im significantly better at the game now obviously but
hardy spear
easy
rustic vale
Where the hell does this dude pull ““A 6:46 clear time is impossible. nice try bucko” from lmfaooooo
hardy spear
my first clear was about 60 minutes lmao
mine was like 23 
warm nimbus
Where the hell does this dude pull ““A 6:46 clear time is impossible. nice try b...
idk that person is really stupid
slim geyser
so when are we gonna tell them about src..
lean timber
they found my alt...
rustic vale
Where the hell does this dude pull ““A 6:46 clear time is impossible. nice try b...
I need to know
hardy spear
their "brain"
hardy spear
people are better than me at video game than me? me? unfathomable
latent moon
Where the hell does this dude pull ““A 6:46 clear time is impossible. nice try b...
they take 2 minutes to clear each room and they think they're going fast
latent moon
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845087924717486140/1019013360894890136/...
god what a complete idiot
hardy spear
i mean this persons a total idiot
wait a moment
rustic vale
Anything lower then my fastest time is impossible
Anybody who tells you otherwise is gaslighting you and probably cheats by playing with mods on or something
lean timber
literally. so literally true
rustic vale
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845087924717486140/1019013360894890136/...
How was your first 32 heat clear a month ago?
latent moon
you're joking right
hardy spear
warm nimbus
How was your first 32 heat clear a month ago?
idk i got pretty good since then
lean timber
lean timber
sometimes you're a goober shackle
hardy spear
warm nimbus
Still think 6:46 is impossible?
yeah
hardy spear
||who's gonna tell 'em||
patent mesa
Still think 6:46 is impossible?
yeah
hardy spear
skissue
warm nimbus
i can't upload
have you tried turning it off and on again?
snow skiff
6:46 is ludicrous
rustic vale
guys why can't i send files
Its cuz you haven’t beat 65 heat
warm nimbus
i got a 6:47 is that alright
yeah
lean timber
no i forgor 💔
warm nimbus
thats believable
latent moon
cool
hardy spear
wait does 47 come before or after 46
warm nimbus
wait does 47 come before or after 46
in between
lean timber
h
warm nimbus
hardy spear
in between
understandable
rustic vale
I actually got a 1:00 clear the other day
lean timber
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845087924717486140/1019014084617830482/...
mattyboi alternate account spotted on reddit
patent mesa
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845087924717486140/1019014084617830482/...
average god mode user:
snow skiff
6:46 is ludicrous
rustic vale
sorry typo -1:00 clear*
warm nimbus
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/646523850544119818/1019014586961235988/...
omg yto9ur right
cheat?!
latent moon
lmfao
hardy spear
exactly it's not
patent mesa
r!ce @warm nimbus
hardy spear
facts and statistics
rustic vale
sometimes you're a goober shackle
🤨
lean timber
ratio
patent mesa
r!ce <@450317477717475329>
hardy spear
gotem
rustic vale
My cerebellum has all the edges
latent moon
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845087924717486140/1019014084617830482/...
sounds like this dude would have fun trying hundreds of runs to get all the rng
hardy spear
i knew it dude
warm nimbus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/676266365123952689/1019014827986927696/te...
damn it you caught me
lean timber
<:smoothBrain:769703375356559380>
it looks like raw chicken 💔
hardy spear
good
rustic vale
It looks like consumable human food
latent moon
lmfao
warm nimbus
rustic vale
Is chiron 65 supposed to be difficult
hardy spear
ngl pretty sure chiron 50 is impossible like how am i supposed to beat it in only 50 minutes
snow skiff
^
hardy spear
wake up sheeple
warm nimbus
How was your first 32 heat clear a month ago?
also were you really being serious
hardy spear
rustic vale
ngl pretty sure chiron 50 is impossible like how am i supposed to beat it in onl...
How am I supposed to oneshot all the enemies with trippy beo or chiron in less than 40 minites td1 is impossible
rustic vale
also were you really being serious <:bouldy:523329116934635534>
No?
lean timber
latent moon
i love seeing pacts on r/hades that have no td on for 32/40 heats lmao
the times are amazing
warm nimbus
oh man there are some really cursed reddit pacts
lean timber
me taking forty-five (45) minutes and thirty-eight (38) seconds to run 40 rama
rustic vale
ive never turned off td3
Since I turned it on I don’t think I’ve turned it off
hardy spear
i feel like it should be harder
rustic vale
Where my td4
hardy spear
but then itd actually be a problem at extreme heat
rustic vale
where my td 6
latent moon
that's called btd6
hardy spear
-3 mins per biome
warm nimbus
ideal 32 pact
true
snow skiff
ap1 at 32 😔
?
latent moon
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845087924717486140/1019016019735482388/...
cp2 js1 gaming
warm nimbus
along with arty attack talos with draining cutter
snow skiff
approval process is free heat
rustic vale
-3 mins per biome
Ah yes I love td3 giving me 0:00 minutes
hardy spear
that is something
latent moon
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845087924717486140/1019016019735482388/...
yo that mirror too
snow skiff
OF LETS GOOO
warm nimbus
oh god i didnt even notice
snow skiff
bruh 5 poms on flourish
hardy spear
these people must actually be so good at the game to beat it like this
snow skiff
bruh how much igt do you think that is
warm nimbus
lol i love the trains of logic that go like
-btw you should switch to dark foresight, it gives you a lot more boons
-but i need the rarity from olympian favor!
-so switch to gods pride
-but i need the duo chance buff
-so switch to fated persuasion
-but i can get more boons from using authority
lean timber
bruh how much igt do you think that is
easily 1:20:00
warm nimbus
bruh how much igt do you think that is
about 43 minutes and 36.8 seconds
hardy spear
did they do like every trove and go for a walk every time they got charon
latent yacht
rustic vale
No
hardy spear
cooler than me
rustic vale
I was about to pull an scp reference but then I thought of the word reference and like
Benjamin kinda the best olympian
latent moon
lol i love the trains of logic that go like
-btw you should switch to dark fores...
use both olympian favor and pride so you never see a common
hardy spear
use ri so you dont have to participate in these brain rotting arguements
latent moon
true
lean timber
me running favor and legacy:
latent moon
with ri2
pine bane
I think it's so cool the implications the aspects provide
Like Lucifer and Arthur
I'm no Mythlogoy buff but I didn't think Lucifer and Greek mythos coexisted
mental vale
thats the entire point its just a neat nod to other cultures
Also theres a popular idea in media that gods exist and have power solely based on the human conception and stories of them so in that case they can coexist perfectly well
snow skiff
30
lean timber
that'd be amazing if i could do that
latent moon
can i sub 45 it?
i think 45 is generally pretty good
probably like 1 or 2 darkness and all instaphases for that
lean timber
i skipped every darkness with some epic rng and breakpoint knowledge but only could sub 45 because of some messy inputs
almost pb'd
latent moon
it do be like that
latent moon
that's pretty good
warm nimbus
what is a REASONABLE hades fight
what aspect
lean timber
11:51.05 with two braids carrying me thru styx. styx look like 2m total lol but yeah i did not do well in ely sadly. took some unfavorable room choices that didn't pay off
as much as i wanted them to
hera
lean timber
juice
warm nimbus
a really good build should be like sub 30
lean timber
i didn't have an excellent build but a competent runner could have got sub 30 probably
warm nimbus
i didn't have an excellent build but a competent runner could have got sub 30 pr...
probably not
latent moon
i dont remember if my pb was sub35 dad lmao
warm nimbus
sub 30 requires a really good build
lean timber
i had two braids i think it would have been doable
lean timber
3
warm nimbus
cast level?
latent moon
and rarity because that prob matters on crush shot
warm nimbus
nah
latent moon
oh really
warm nimbus
its 10 per rarity lmao
lean timber
- nah rarity is a 20pt difference it doesn't matter
lean timber
yeah it could have happened
warm nimbus
also what was hermes
lean timber
oh well fumbled the bag. one of these days i'll be good
oh yeah hermes was pretty bad. hyper sprint and +3 dashes
made room clears way faster tho
warm nimbus
yeah well there we go
latent moon
big zoom tho lmao
warm nimbus
no qr is pretty bad if you arent instaphasing
latent moon
for a sub30 you need literally everything lmao
lean timber
fr huge zoom i could run thru the entire safe room with my single dash cycle
yeah i missed qr and i couldn't instaphase sadly
lean timber
i took what i thought was best for overall speed. exit wounds was helpful because it stopped him from running a darkness so it worked for that
other than that yeah. not a real special run but felt good
warm nimbus
2 braids is nice tbf but with no hermes its just kinda meh
swift inlet
Bruh
I got an aspho and ely fountain room in the same run
And it isn't a speedrun
😩
warm nimbus
the problem with hera compared to beo is that it cant get like 70% of its scaling from mirage
lean timber
ja i had heart rend tho! so that was cool i guess
but nothing worth it really
sad case
lean timber
L
patent mesa
2 braids is nice tbf but with no hermes its just kinda meh
you're just kinda meh
wait wrong server
latent moon
You'd think one would be pretty decent with Hera after playing beo for so long but turns out you don't need that good of aim with beo
warm nimbus
kbm moment
warm nimbus
most of the problem is in missing casts lol
latent moon
Well hera also lodges
Can't lodge if you miss
swift inlet
Flurry fire is a necessary hammer to ensure you miss your shots
lean timber
almost 100% true
latent moon
Flurry Hera honestly isn't bad with the misses but I just hate flurry lol
warm nimbus
flurry hera makes the whiffing shots on kbm like 30x worse lol
latent moon
Twin shot Hera let's go
warm nimbus
nah triple all the way
lean timber
flurry is the absolute best hammer for hera in terms of speedrunning
twin is 2nd
flurry twin is a goated run
latent moon
flurry is the absolute best hammer for hera in terms of speedrunning
We just suck
lean timber
no lol it takes practice
but after a bit it becomes second nature to rely on it sometimes
lean timber
"get away with" in term of setting new pb's, sure
"get away with" as in leaderboard, unlikely
a lot of them are flurry
as far as i know.
warm nimbus
flurry is the absolute best hammer for hera in terms of speedrunning
yep but we play kbm
lean timber
ratio
lean timber
I forgot to add sub 10 lol
yeah that's ez doable
a braid here, a story room there, you'll do it ez
high island
Rooms are gonna matter a lot more than if you got Flurry, Twin, or Triple as long as you got one of them.
lean timber
i dislike triple simply because of the loss of safety
twin and flurry allow me to be baller at a distance
sub 5 aspho but at what cost
a maim and a atrophic cost me almost all of my lives
me when
when patroclus c29
hearty bramble
Why is it referred to as Hades Game (2018) and not (2020)
rustic vale
Because it was out in 2018 no?
hearty bramble
Yeah but I thought 2020 was like the more official release date
lean timber
that was probably when it exited beta or got its 1.0 update?
warm nimbus
yeah 2018 was early access release
i dont know anything that says 2018 was full release
hearty bramble
One place ive definitely seen it referred to as Hades Game (2018) is ||AO3|| LOL but I thought I had seen it elsewhere too.
oh ok heres IMDB for one https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9459718/
IGN does too https://www.ign.com/games/hades
i mean it doesnt really matter i just thought it was odd
hearty bramble
i was worried the embed was too obnoxious 
lean timber
it was rather large on mobile lol
took up nearly the whole screen
oh well
where are my gamer friends usually they cheer me on in victory boast ☹️
high island
@lean timber where is your Snow Burst? 
lean timber
I DIDN'T GET IT
I DIDN'T GET ANY DEMETER THAT ENTIRE RUN
terrible.
it gave me ares instead. which, i did get urge to kill, so i'll never say no. but still. snow burst would have been great
my snurst
signal aspen
Literally just force Demeter in aspho
lean timber
i think i forced arty for some reason i forgot what i was going for
but overall i wanted dps over utility for that run
patent mesa
did you think you would ever get fully loaded with a cast build
high island
but overall i wanted dps over utility for that run
Snow Burst is your DPS.
lean timber
tbh idr what i took to asphodel so maybe i was wrong
patent mesa
hey at least you forced arty and not a worse goddess
patent mesa
no comment
lean timber
enough. d
patent mesa
r
lean timber
lol nah i always get what i need from her in tart. nothing really after i need. blown kiss hardly comes up for me so i never bother trying for it
lean timber
Snow Burst is your DPS. <:dusa:522248771409543188>
would have been nice, esp. with my 4 casts...
patent mesa
I assume you purged her other boons
so you could continue pomming cast that is
for no other reason
lean timber
whose?
i didn't purge anything except athena call (didn't have any rerolls so i just got the one that cost the most)
or was that the run previous?
idk i need to start streaming my runs so i can re-watch i think
patent mesa
aphro boons
lean timber
nah i just either skip her doors entirely or i get something that helps like sweet surrender or something
after crush shot, i really don't look for her at all unless i'm duo hunting
patent mesa
shame you don't get to enjoy purging them
lean timber
well i take them if the other choice sucks, like a boss room or something
but usually in tart it offers me poms so i grab them
patent mesa
hold up do you skip miniboss rooms
patent mesa
is that a yes or no
lean timber
i skip them in tart usually
in aphro and ely i take them in general
in styx they're the first ones i do
lean timber
really? even without js, cp, any of that stuff active?
patent mesa
yeah they're still zoomier unless something goes horribly wrong vs bombers
lean timber
i don't often feel like that's the case... crystal is my slowest tart miniboss tbh
patent mesa
of course it can be good to skip miniboss if other room reward is too good
lean timber
i can get thru a bomber/regular combat room in 15 - 20s
patent mesa
are you megging crystal
signal aspen
i don't often feel like that's the case... crystal is my slowest tart miniboss t...
Bruh that's like the easiest
lean timber
hell no i can't usually afford that
short glen
Imagine using meg. Dusa superior
patent mesa
I would recommend doing it
lean timber
i don't meg anything in tart. i can't afford it
i use a meg for lernie, heroes, the two minibosses in styx, and dad
anything else screws me in the end i've found
and i know what you'll say
patent mesa
hm
signal aspen
Meg tart midboss, aspho midboss, Ely midboss, heroes, and dad
That's the optimal megs
lean timber
styx??
signal aspen
If you have an extra meg Styx midboss
signal aspen
It's not
patent mesa
basically by styx you can usually blow up miniboss instantly
so earlier megs are better
latent moon
You def don't use meg on lernie tho
signal aspen
If you can't destroy Styx midboss run is kinda dead ngl
patent mesa
also hypothetically let's say you gain same time megging tart vs styx miniboss
by megging tart you gain time by having chance for spindles
latent moon
Oh that's true too
patent mesa
you're a huge waste imo
latent moon
Based
patent mesa
jk love you
signal aspen
Gross
signal aspen
Gross
patent mesa
jk hate you
signal aspen
👍
lean timber
yeah but hear me out. i feel like with hera, the crazy burst damage compensates because let's be realistic, you have 65% of your damage by c1 of hera if you get crush shot right then and there instead of a hammer... it just feels like you can get away with the tart minibosses playing normally as opposed to the other targets, when the hp ramps up a lot quicker thru the biomes and will take more time...
patent mesa
I mean yeah that's true
signal aspen
No you dont
latent moon
Meg on every miniboss strips the armor anyways
high island
Meg Tartarus miniboss.
lean timber
ok :((
patent mesa
but I would say in that case you should adjust to take tart miniboss and meg if you run into crystal
bam
signal aspen
90% of your damage comes from poms，chaos and wells
lean timber
well maybe that will save me a bit of time then
signal aspen
And hermes
latent moon
Also crystal is the fastest miniboss
lean timber
yeah if you meg it
signal aspen
Half the time you won't have hermes before midboss so that means no quick reload
Making midboss even longer
high island
My favorite Doomstone tactic is summoning Antos upon entering and just dashing to the exit.
signal aspen
Sneak skip
latent moon
Sneak skip
patent mesa
Sneak skip
lean timber
lmao jk just 1 cycle
i did that once had a crazy tart build. single appear and instant ko. felt amazing
but yeah i guess... i'll see. but not having it in styx feels scary. should i reroll a well to find an extra meg? or is that too nerdy
lean timber
STOP GIVING ME BEO THOUGHTS. I DO NOT ASSOCIATE WITH BEO AND I WILL NOT.
signal aspen
but yeah i guess... i'll see. but not having it in styx feels scary. should i re...
Reroll wells for cast items but if you see extra meg take it
patent mesa
beowulf
signal aspen
BeOwOlf
lean timber
Reroll wells for cast items but if you see extra meg take it
fair enough
patent mesa
run it
latent moon
skill issue
patent mesa
yeah but beo meta is poseidon keepsake
signal aspen
Beo is insane
patent mesa
which makes it >>>>>> hera
high island
but yeah i guess... i'll see. but not having it in styx feels scary. should i re...
I mean I often just reroll Wells to buy them out with Bone Hourglass anyway.
latent moon
true
lean timber
this is the new world order's work... hypnotizing everyone to follow their command
"run beowulf, it's better for you"
patent mesa
I bet aphro attack arty flare isn't that bad
patent mesa
this is the new world order's work... hypnotizing everyone to follow their comma...
beowulf
lean timber
i will NOT run beowulf!!!
patent mesa
mirage shot
lean timber
aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuughhhhhhh
latent moon
I bet aphro attack arty flare isn't that bad
i could try that next time
lean timber
i wonder what my beo records look like anyway lol
latent moon
10% crit chance yeah baby
rustic vale
STOP GIVING ME BEO THOUGHTS. I DO NOT ASSOCIATE WITH BEO AND I WILL NOT.
Hera stan is synonymous with beo denier
high island
(stupid arc)
aaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuughhhhhhh
Checks out.
lean timber
auuuuuugh
latent moon
we got budget charon over here
rustic vale
did you know that beo is BROKEN AND GArBAGE CHEATER WEAPON
Just like chiron
lean timber
crush shot damage radius is just as good and it doesn't have a very vulerable zagreus in the middle either!
high island
Hera stan is synonymous with beo denier
Why use a 3rd rate aspect when you can use a 1st place bow.
signal aspen
Hera is poopy stinky doodoo peepee
rustic vale
Why use a 3rd rate aspect when you can use a 1st place bow.
I reference something else with that
signal aspen
Take that @ croven
lean timber
i'm ripping off your skin
i'm taking your skin and wearing it as part of my training exercises
latent moon
hera's so bad shackle isn't even good on it
patent mesa
i'm taking your skin and wearing it as part of my training exercises
ok when
lean timber
each day, i am coming for a new one of you. be ready
rustic vale
hera's so bad shackle isn't even good on it
True 
👍 👍
lean timber
you don't get to know
rustic vale
Hera is discount zag bow
patent mesa
I'll meet you halfway
latent moon
True <:shadegrief:520448187358642194> 👍<:shadegrief:520448187358642194> 👍
i meant the keepsake not you btw i feel like i need to clarify that
lean timber
that would be a compliment if you meant it lol
patent mesa
i meant the keepsake not you btw i feel like i need to clarify that
I meant @rustic vale not the keepsake
high island
@dull niche look at all these heretics in chat smh.
rustic vale
I’m not good on hera and neither is shackle the keepsake
lean timber
LITERALLY
lean timber
i will not be a part of this feeble-minded discussion any longer.
patent mesa
mirage shot
lean timber
DIE
latent moon
lmfao
rustic vale
i will not be a part of this feeble-minded discussion any longer.
It seems that the feebleminded one… is you
lean timber
how could you tell
latent moon
lmfao
signal aspen
Where is the Hera sub3
high island
Look at Hera: How many speedrun WRs does Hera have?
Now look in the mirror: How many speedrun WRs do you have?
lean timber
wait does beo have a sub 3
signal aspen
Look at Hera: How many speedrun WRs does Hera have?
Now look in the mirror: How ...
I have 3
patent mesa
I have a sub 3 unrouted
patent mesa
yeah it's routed
latent moon
based
patent mesa
but it's also unmodded so it's less cheat engine than modded runs
rustic vale
hera's so bad shackle isn't even good on it
I literally had to play it like the discount zag bow it is for shackle
signal aspen
Bruh that's chiron
rustic vale
literally chiron
patent mesa
Bruh that's chiron
no chiron is the zeus shield of the bows
lean timber
but it's also unmodded so it's less cheat engine than modded runs
UNMODDED ROUTED???
you're kidding
you have to be joking
patent mesa
lol nope
signal aspen
no chiron is the zeus shield of the bows
Oh ye mb
lean timber
how do you know the seed... how do you know what manips to do and if you're off route...
that's insane
mad respect to that honestly
high island
It's unmodded, not unseeded.
signal aspen
Good gaming chair
high island
Of course they know the seed.
lean timber
but how do they find the seed without the mod
signal aspen
how do you know the seed... how do you know what manips to do and if you're off ...
There's also a whole thing with the manips to do
patent mesa
there's probably a different mod in play tbh
high island
People were routing long before any speedrun modpacks or any mods to help with routing.
lean timber
now i'm confused and thus don't care
signal aspen
but how do they find the seed without the mod
I think they have a specific file they play on that they keep resetting to
rustic vale
I have a sub 3 unrouted
Lower than 6:46? Impossible, nice try bucko
signal aspen
Idk I don't know how to route
latent moon
nice try bucko
high island
And using a mod to help route the run then doing the actual run unmodded wouldn't count as modded.
lean timber
how quaint
silver coral
So Im in my 20th run here in my friends account who have Hades but never played it and I just killed hades
lean timber
awesome do it nine more times
latent moon
or 99
silver coral
And that mf had a second phase
rustic vale
Rad
latent moon
oh lmfao
lean timber
yeah he sure did
latent moon
it do be like that
signal aspen
No he has 5 phases
rustic vale
And that mf had a second phase
Um, Actually he has 65 phases
silver coral
And I beatin his ugly goffy ahh
signal aspen
Each phase has 10k more hp and deals 10x more damage
lean timber
i thought they changed it to 7 phases in last patch
silver coral
And and when I meet his mom
lean timber
oh right they upped the scaling nvm
silver coral
His mom is mid
patent mesa
if you crank up enemy routine inspection enough dad loses his death defiance
rustic vale
His mom is mid
🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫🔫
silver coral
I would rather think dusa is his mom
patent mesa
dusa is my mom
signal aspen
Dusa mid
lean timber
ratio
silver coral
Or hell nyx
latent moon
cerby mid
patent mesa
nyx is also my mom
signal aspen
Nyx is my mommy
silver coral
So like what is this bounty system
lean timber
the more heat you have the more rewards you get
rustic vale
Bouldy best girl
lean timber
up to 20 heat
silver coral
Good thing I killed all the gods in my world
rustic vale
Bouldy best girl
Bouldy best thing*
signal aspen
Bouldy best
lean timber
i don't think bouldy would much care what you refer to it as
silver coral
Man I wish they would add kratos in this
lean timber
seems content with whatever
rustic vale
Bouldy != Bouldy
silver coral
It would be so bad ass that Hades son when they are both fighting kratos falls into hell and then Hades and his son fight kratos
silver coral
It would be so bad ass that Hades son when they are both fighting kratos falls i...
What y'all think
signal aspen
Kratos??? Like from Fortnite????????????
latent moon
omg kratos from fortnite??????????
patent mesa
when can we get fortnite boons
signal aspen
Into tilted towers
rustic vale
Where my default dance in Hades
silver coral
The real one
rustic vale
give it to me sgg
latent moon
i dont think kratos is anywhere in greek mythology
silver coral
Cuz like if y'all know there is a person who isn't a god but a demigod his name is cratos
signal aspen
Kratos is in Fortnite mythology
latent moon
true
silver coral
Kratos is in Fortnite mythology
rustic vale
I wanna see megerea do the default dance in the hit game Hades™️ developed by super giant games
also I definitely just spelled meg wrong
lean timber
when can we get fortnite boons
Your 90's deal 10%/15%/20% more damage.
silver coral
So when do I get pets In the game
signal aspen
How do you do 90s in hades
silver coral
I heard I can get companion
signal aspen
So when do I get pets In the game
Bouldy is a pet
silver coral
When and how
rustic vale
So when do I get pets In the game
Give people lots of gifts and ambrosia and nectar and what mot
lean timber
Chug Jugs give 20%/40%/60% more Shield Health.
signal aspen
I heard I can get companion
After getting 100 victory royales
silver coral
Yes how do I use the Ambrosea
rustic vale
killing heroes
silver coral
Cuz I can't gift it to anyone
lean timber
drink it it's delicious
signal aspen
When you complete the battle pass
lean timber
you have to give them nectar first
patent mesa
**Chug Jugs** give **20%/40%/60%** more **Shield Health.**
Receive 1 Chug Jug now.
silver coral
Ok to what heart percentage
rustic vale
Cuz I can't gift it to anyone
Must gift till can use
lean timber
rustic vale
All the way to the locks
signal aspen
I need modders to turn everything into Fortnite
lean timber
i just spit out my lemonade
signal aspen
Good
silver coral
Man f this I'ma hack the game
patent mesa
based
rustic vale
I need modders to turn everything into Fortnite
I need some fortnite emotes in hades right now
silver coral
I can mod some
lean timber
zagreus needs to be able to hit the griddy after killing hades
rustic vale
Actually get the game on pc
silver coral
I moded Hades to look like a person in a game called gungeon
rustic vale
zagreus needs to be able to hit the griddy after killing hades
While*
lean timber
I can mod some
modding server is pinned in #self-promotion get to it
rustic vale
zagreus needs to be able to hit the griddy while killing hades
patent mesa
zagreus needs to be able to hit the griddy while killing hades
silver coral
So what dance you want zag to dance
patent mesa
orange justice easy
latent moon
zagreus needs to be able to hit the griddy while killing hades
silver coral
I can add the griddy cuz it's easier
patent mesa
do it coward
rustic vale
In the mean time make flurry fire spreadfire and delta chamber all compatible with each other it can’t be that hard to just find the code and change it right right right right right I’m trying to be really sarcastic here I hope it comes across well
silver coral
Bro is going to take me a few days chill
latent moon
make every hammer compatible with each other
lean timber
Receive 1 Chug Jug now.
silver coral
What guys I'm not a mod expert
latent moon
give me repulse shot on chiron
lean timber
i can't believe young BOI kratos 69 would do this
lean timber
only 10? i thought it was an hour
latent moon
send the same link 3 times in a row and you'll find out
rustic vale
What guys I'm not a mod expert
I can’t believe it smh it can’t be that hard like I’ven’t personally coded that much but like ez you just hack the game up then hit your keyboard a few times and bam done
lean timber
kind of waiting for alma tho cuz i haven't had much experience with any of the others
snow skiff
Conc volley on rama would make special only rama actually a thing
Which would be cringe
lean timber
i live for cringe.
lean timber
arty special lol
latent moon
the damage will get big eventually
lean timber
just give it a second
latent moon
or a few seconds
rustic vale
the damage will get big eventually
Or 600
Need that heroic swift flourish
and flurry volley
latent moon
heck yeah buddy
snow skiff
Dvolley
rustic vale
Special only sword gamers(it’s just me) if flurry nova existed 📈📈📈
snow skiff
Dashing volley, makes the volley get extra base damage when you dash
rustic vale
I want chiron volley to instead be shaped like a circle of arrows
And instead of homing on an enemy
It goes straight out from you
latent moon
make the chiron volley rain from the sky like the merged aspects mod
rustic vale
Then you can recall it by hitting the button again
It’d be pretty unique I think
Nothing else in the game really does anything similiar cough zeus shield cough
There really needed to be a flurry shield hammer
lean timber
flurry shield... hold attack to continuously attack, but you cannot bull rush
ah yes
most definitely needed in the game.
snow skiff
Flurry knuckle
rustic vale
most definitely needed in the game.
👍
lean timber
wouldn't break nearly every single shield aspect.
lean timber
hold this ratio
rustic vale
Flurry knuckle
Would be meta on demeter after breaching cross
rustic vale
Hold attack to continuously attack
Concentrated knuckle users 
rustic vale
Oh true it removes the slight cooldown after the 5 punch combo
Would mean stacking infinite base damage no?
snow skiff
Dash strikes interrupt concentrated knuckle
high island
When Zag Fists still had the Attack speed buff, you could just hold Attack with Rolling Knuckle to stunlock enemies. 
lean timber
that's how it should be...
rustic vale
When Zag Fists still had the Attack speed buff, you could just hold Attack with ...
that’s how the game should work 👍
high island
I agree but alas.
high island
It only affected the first hit, which was probably a bug.
rustic vale
lmfao what
rustic vale
How does that even happen
does rolling knuckle add a 6th hit to your combo for concentrated knuckle purposes?
snow skiff
I hate how much crap swift strike and flourish should logically work with but doesn't
high island
does rolling knuckle add a 6th hit to your combo for concentrated knuckle purpos...
Nope. The hit at the end is considered a Dash-Attack.
rustic vale
lean timber
i'm such a fan of frame data it's just sad that swifts don't work with things very well
latent moon
tmw you decide to be funny to get heart rend beo but then you get all the good gods
3:44 aspho leave i swear if this is a sub8 i will break something
oh i also have mirage shot lmao
gilded pivot
oh i also have mirage shot lmao
Is that good?
latent moon
Is that good?
mirage shot on beowulf is bugged so it does 100% extra damage instead of 30% extra damage
well, flares more specifically but no one uses trippy flare on hera
rustic vale
essentially doubling your damage
latent moon
yeah that's the reason why beo is one of the top aspects in the game
latent moon
It hasn’t been patched yet?
no more patches are coming
unless it literally breaks the game
there's a lot of bugs on beowulf lol
gilded pivot
Oh ok
latent moon
that's one of them
gilded pivot
What’s Beowulf tho?
latent moon
poms on trippy flare on beo only do double of what it says
latent moon
What’s Beowulf tho?
hidden shield
rustic vale
What’s Beowulf tho?
hidden shield
latent moon
there's a lot of bugs on beowulf lol
if you have passion flare (or some other one i dont remember) and sell your attack, increase rarity, or something else then the flare radius gets reduced to basic cast flare range
i mean
even without the mirage shot bug on beo, it's still a top aspect
rustic vale
if you have passion flare (or some other one i dont remember) and sell your atta...
icy and passion falre
latent moon
yea
rustic vale
trippy flare only crits for 2x
snow skiff
Also ur dashes don't have iframes while casts are popping
rustic vale
trippy flare only crits for 2x <:shadegrief:520448187358642194>
clearly it's not a bug but an intentional nerf for the best build in the game
latent moon
Also ur dashes don't have iframes while casts are popping
oh that explains a lot
for all flares right
lean timber
yeah
lean timber
i need to work on tart and aspho times specifically because i know them best
3:30 tart and 5:30 aspho are my times to beat
not awesome
hearty kestrel
the game is taking absurdly long to load between rooms
I verified the steam files but still happening
latent moon
i remember seeing somewhere that if you leave the game on for too long or play for too long in one sitting it lags more? not sure on that tho
hearty kestrel
don't think that's it but possibly
latent moon
i need to work on tart and aspho times specifically because i know them best
i feel like part of the issue is not getting enough free rooms rn
esp chaos
lean timber
no tbh i take almost all of them... it's a gameplay issue i think
latent moon
don't think that's it but possibly
maybe could check #h1-tech-fixes and #h1-tech-support and see
lean timber
my loop gets messed easily + i screw myself making gambler choices sometimes
latent moon
what kind of gambler choices
lean timber
well instead of going for a boss room sometimes i go for a boon with a regular combat room, even if the reward isn't exactly skewed in my favor
latent moon
if your focus is time, just take the good rooms
lean timber
i just gotta get out of my zero heat habits lol
i try to absolutely max out my build instead of saving time sometimes still. hard habit to break
latent moon
miniboss rooms are considered free rooms lol
lean timber
fr lol and i know that but monkey brain wants more
latent moon
i try to absolutely max out my build instead of saving time sometimes still. har...
you can have a halfassed build and get a sub10 tbh as long as styx doesn't screw you
latent moon
unga bunga moment
lean timber
so true
twin shot OR flurry shot
grrrr i hate this game!! stop giving me good options!! i'm used to garbage choices that are no brainer
latent moon
twin shot OR flurry shot
prob twin for consistency? unless you dont have issues with missing on flurry
lean timber
yee i took twin but is missing with flurry an issue for kbm?
latent moon
well i'm bad so for me i do miss a lot
but like every so often you get those moments where you chain casts one after another and it's great
latent moon
i think part of it is that you're aiming with your mouse and the isometric view doesn't help
latent moon
obv could turn that off but i'm a degenerate
lean timber
that would be even worse lmao
latent moon
yeah because the shots matter more lmao
for rails you can get away with it even with hestia
hesty if you miss yeah it sucks but at least your cast doesn't go across the room all you have to do is reload
lean timber
oh ok good i was worried you had to totally freehand it
maybe i'll get into that one of these days
latent moon
tbh the only thing that sucks is button management
lean timber
bind everything to left click
latent moon
lmao
i'm lucky enough to have a mouse with 2 side buttons so i can utilize them when needed
although i only use 1 of them for cast lmao
but without it i'd feel like it'd suck a lot more
latent moon
heck yeah buddy
latent moon
It do be like that
lean timber
hear me out, banana fish man
what if i've been wrong all along
what if
...what if pride is a scam.
i have a plan
lean timber
ignoring you
wraith sand
what plan
patent mesa
https://streamable.com/w4fjzu yeah idk
you know slicing flare probably looks the most like a ring of fire of all the flares
no wonder it's so cracked
unreal stirrup
Guys is it worth using guan yuan
Or whatever its name is
And to get Arthur does it have to be sword aspects?
feral belfry
Guys is it worth using guan yuan
It's s high skill cap weapon. Gotta know what you're doing.
Arthur is sword yes
unreal stirrup
Decided to do a fresh file after a long break. Got my first clear on attempt six...
NICE!
unreal stirrup
Arthur is sword yes
So to get the Arthur it's 5 titan blood specifically on sword
unreal stirrup
Thx bro
So litterally for all sink 5 titan blood into it
Just found out summons don't work in the last battle-
patent mesa
Just found out summons don't work in the last battle-
they will eventually
unreal stirrup
Oh it's a time thing?
Like ambrosia or bond?
Guys im not good at maths coz discalculia, in stygius I have put aspect of nemesis to lvl 3, that's it how much titan blood have I sunk in?
@acoustic bolt?
acoustic bolt
oh i didn't understand you were saying it's over ehre
i am dumb
if your nemesis is level 3 then you've spent 6 blood on it
unreal stirrup
if your nemesis is level 3 then you've spent 6 blood on it
Oh crap already? Btw that's it
acoustic bolt
there's a chart here
unreal stirrup
But bet thanks
acoustic bolt
np
unreal stirrup
Awesome so before ya know it I'm gonna be...
Carrying quite the caliber
acoustic bolt
Some people here like Arthur. I think it has no redeeming qualities 😛
short glen
Literally all you need to do is get heartbreak strike and you've got your build LMAO
acoustic bolt
I don't like feeling like I'm dragging 50 lb weights
I wasn't really talking about whether or not it can win
unreal stirrup
Tbh I'm very speed game play orientated but I like weighty attacks too
One or the other
unreal stirrup
Is it just me or is the charon fight a little overrated
strong ridge
tidal arter good time
patent mesa
Is it just me or is the charon fight a little overrated
agreed
his frame data is pretty awful and everything is super telegraphed
strong ridge
he does one move that is dangerous you either die to it or kill him
patent mesa
so even though he hits like a truck if you know the boss it's super manageable
patent mesa
Some people here like Arthur. I think it has no redeeming qualities 😛
I think not needing scaling past tart like hesty is fantastic, and its issues with high heat pacts are wayyyy overexaggerated
people like to say "turn on FO2 and it dies" but that's not really true
sly ridge
if im using aspect of zeus, should i consider getting the boon that gives my attacks a chance to strike lightning
acoustic bolt
if im using aspect of zeus, should i consider getting the boon that gives my att...
Zeus special is good with zeus shield. Zeus attack isn't great
swift inlet
What do you even run on attack
acoustic bolt
I usually just slot for a duo or decide after hammers
Find charged shot? Big % or arty
ME? Then ares. Trying to get sea storm? Free place to stick poseidon
Also good spot for aphro if I want smair
snow skiff
i think part of it is that you're aiming with your mouse and the isometric view ...
Turn off aim at cursor play it like rail
Smh
swift inlet
Right ME zeus is a thing
Also why is aim at cursor bad-
It feels weird to be restricted to aiming the way you're moving
latent moon
Auto aim is cringe
swift inlet
Especially since you don't have as much control over movement as controller
snow skiff
Also why is aim at cursor bad-
It's only really bad for like rail
Cz default projectile size is tiny
sly ridge
should i defeat theseus or asterius first in the fight
latent moon
asterius generally
that way you dont have to deal with the god call and the bull at the same time while dodging
sly ridge
another question
latent moon
although if you kill theseus first the bull naturally comes to you so you can deal with both at the same time depending on your build