athena flourish and dash
#h1-discussion
austere loom
waitaminute
I just realized
is "Exclusive Access" a pun?
since the boons are all "Epic"
Epic games?
muted lava
Can someone quickly tell me if hades the god of dead is the "Final boss" I know theres probably secret bosses but does it count as a win if you beat him?
high island
Can someone quickly tell me if hades the god of dead is the "Final boss" I know ...
Yes.
frigid pagoda
Epic games?
lol could be ngl
muted lava
How do you get aspects? Ive got all the weapons now.
rain relic
How do you get aspects? Ive got all the weapons now.
Use titan blood to unlock them
muted lava
where?
rain relic
press E when standing next to the weapon you have selected
that'll bring up a menu that will let you either unlock aspects or upgrade ones you already have unlocked
muted lava
Hm theres no prompt for that, any idea why?
rain relic
i think you might need to escape a few times before unlocking it
austere loom
Hm theres no prompt for that, any idea why?
IIRC you need to unlock all weapons first
muted lava
As I said I have unlocked them all
austere loom
then just do some more runs I guess
muted lava
yeah ok
safe tinsel
achilles says a lotta stuff so sometimes you just gotta cycle the dialogue
formal sinew
yeah ok
The first you need is ||Varatha spear one. By talking to Achilles after having like 5 Titan blood in any aspect||
You need to rerun alot to get the specific dialogue
After that they all fall into place
void vigil
The first you need is ||Varatha spear one. By talking to Achilles after having l...
It’s 5 aspects unlocked, not 5 blood in aspects
austere loom
is it worth trading Ambrosia for Titan Blood?
formal sinew
is it worth trading Ambrosia for Titan Blood?
I do it all the time early game
formal sinew
It’s 5 aspects unlocked, not 5 blood in aspects
APOLOGIES
austere loom
aight aight
formal sinew
My morning brain failed me
formal sinew
aight aight
If you're in late game for the relationships, save some up
void vigil
no worries, I was just correcting to save whoever read it some titan blood :P
rustic vale
As I said I have unlocked them all
You need to do one run after having unlocking them all
atleast one, idk if titan blood can be blocked by bad dialogue rng
silk river
Oh wow this literally hurts my eyes. I got a Hermes attack boon. Eris gun, unlimited ammo, Zeus with double strike sea storm and splash dash. I'm seeing like 10+ lightning effects a second...
molten skiff
latent moon
damn homie even used high confidence
warm nimbus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/771815559410876446/965279696117977098/unk...
who was this 
signal aspen
me
signal aspen
yeah
warm nimbus
no cskewer 😔
austere loom
how is Guan Yu used? for reference
signal aspen
you usually go for charged skewer from the hammer and spam specials
so just get a big % special boon like aphro or artemis and do dash strike -> dash strike -> special
austere loom
so I guess, I'll just have to wait until I unlock the other hidden aspects
I got a bunch of leveled aspects already
rustic vale
at least at level one
Only really at level 1 tbh
steel thunder
guys
help
i bought hades on the xbox game pass
and my thing expired
if i buy it on steam will my progress be saved
because I have a lot ofprogress
wraith sand
because I have a lot ofprogress
Nope
steel thunder
so ill start from scratch
wraith sand
Yup
wraith sand
yeah, but then you will have it on both xbox and pc
void vigil
I believe there is a way to transfer progress, it might be pinned in #h1-tech-support
No it isn’t, I can look for it in a bit
wraith sand
I mean, Hades is leaving Game Pass soon either way
latent yacht
tips for beowulf shield?
and shield overall
i've beaten the game with it like once
and i have 77 hours
mint coral
mirage shot>everything else on beo
due to a bug the copy from it doesnt have dmg reduced
so double yours dmg
also remapping cast to an easy to hit button so you can load while mid bull rush
and dont always load the 3 casts, sometimes 1 is enough or sometimes do a combo of 2 cast > rush > 1 cast
so while the 2nd rush is happening you can pick up the first 2 casts
rustic vale
Chaos really likes giving me purple resource boosters today
latent yacht
which boons do i go? which cast is the best?
signal aspen
Poseidon cast is the best because mirage shot
rustic vale
Pos cast good
rustic vale
Should just tell people to use trippy flare instead of tidal flare 
signal aspen
Honestly should
rustic vale
But don’t tell them about stygian soul
🧠
arte attack is nice on beo aside from mirage shot because bullrush has built in +100% when cast loaded
latent moon
the special seems useless
the special on beo is useless lmao
the only use is sniping enemies across the room and that's it
tepid light
isn't the shield special categorically mediocre across all the aspects
at least beo's special does more damage
signal aspen
It's good on Zeus shield I think
tepid light
actually yeah you're right
can't believe i forgot zeus shield existed lmao
but i feel like it's kind of the exception that proves the rule
shield special is only good if you give it an entirely different special
tepid light
beowulf special does 45, which is a massive improvement
signal aspen
Yeah but it doesn't get any use outside of Tartarus witches and brimstones
tepid light
eh it still has some scattered use
which is more that can be said for normal shield special
patent mesa
facts
rustic vale
beowulf special does 45, which is a massive improvement
Now just get charged flight
patent mesa
i appreciate the name
lmao zeus shield is just aspectless zag shield after all
formal sinew
Is it just me or
Arthur is a little broken
When it can let you stand on traps
And lava
tepid light
tbh i didn't really like sword much until i got arthur
i felt like it tried to be a 'jack of all trades' but ended up feeling like a mediocre option in all fields
but arthur makes it feel so much better
abstract delta
Just had a 16 heat run ended by 3 flame wheel rooms in a row with the twin fists
Bruh
signal aspen
tbh i didn't really like sword much until i got arthur
yeah i was like that too since arthur is so straightforward
tepid light
tbh i'm also not very accustomed with aspect of poseidon
and aspect of nemesis is good, but with the way i play, i tend to find arthur a lot better
mental vale
Why did they made 80% of the males hot in that game?
*100%
silk river
God hades... yes
deft canyon
Nah Hypnos,Drip Lord Charon, Skelly,
silk river
Hades is hotter than the cape on the surface
tepid light
athena best girl
rustic vale
athena best girl
Counterpoint: artemis
warm nimbus
yeah i was like that too since arthur is so straightforward
i wasnt like that i just hate sword
except for nem nem is cool
strong ridge
pos was my 1st em4 uu
tepid light
Counterpoint: artemis
artemis is great too but athena is best for me
signal aspen
Idk man as
quiet ice
tepid light
you can really just go full unga bunga with arthur
wail on enemies while standing in the consecration zone
formal sinew
tbh i didn't really like sword much until i got arthur
I liked it with Nemesis
Stacked crits with Artemis
tepid light
I liked it with Nemesis
i like it too but there wasn't much room for comparison before i had arthur
because the two alternatives were both deeply underwhelming for me
formal sinew
That's fair
For Arthur I just go for Hermes and Hammer
Both have speed upgrades
So faster atk
tepid light
honestly i enjoy going artemis on arthur
for the absolutely hilarious amounts of damage you can do
formal sinew
Also, the area of his aura can increase
I love it when Theseus Spear moves so slow
Then I use Divine dash
And he gets self bonked
mint coral
For Arthur I just go for Hermes and Hammer
Hammer cant offer speed atk 
formal sinew
Do I have the wrong upgrade?
mint coral
If you are thinking flurry slash, cant get that on arthue
tepid light
flurry slash on arthur would be pretty entertaining
tepid light
probs nemesis?
formal sinew
All these plays blend together
Yeah I don't use any other aspect. Once I got nemesis and Arthur it's just back and forth
Honestly just fun to try new stuff
Although I'm so disappointed today because I got all the requirements for Artemis Hunter Instinct
And didn't get it
formal sinew
Yea
I mean I still beat Hades and managed to use the spare cash to buy Titan blood but.
Whyyyyyy
Had one of my rerolls got me another arty boon
I might have it
I even had Eurydice upgrade my next 3 boons
mint coral
Are you using fathed authorithy?
formal sinew
Is that the one where I have to reroll room option or reroll boon menu options
I had room
mint coral
Room is authorithy yeah
formal sinew
Oh I haven't tried it yet
It's on my list
Me: makes it all the way boonless
Also me: forced to get one useless damage activated Ares boon at the end
mint coral
Bio: "play pyre"
Role: "pyre"
maybe 
formal sinew
I also wanna try transistor
mint coral
just try all the games
bold sonnet
What im supposed to do exacttly to got Aspect of rama lol
lean timber
be epic and cool
mint coral
reveal guan yu, invest 5 blood into bow, talk with artemis till phrase is given
bold sonnet
how i real guan yu?
mint coral
check #h1-story-discussion pinned messages
lean timber
yep
mint coral
yeah
bold sonnet
Like 1/100 ? or its fine ?
mint coral
hades has a pool of dialogue that chooses each time, gy is pretty important so it should come soon
unless you are advancing the main story or his quest with patroclus
then those could be selected instead of the awakening phrase
so depends? ig
silver nimbus
what is em4?
mental vale
someone on sub said they were trying to do beo 8 heat with RI4
that doesnt sound that hard though since you dont have any other pacts
tepid light
what is em4?
extreme measures 4th rank, one of the things you can get from the pact of punishment
gives each boss more abilities
latent moon
someone on sub said they were trying to do beo 8 heat with RI4
i saw that and i just thought "you're literally struggling because you got rid of your casts"
i guess just do trippy beo and get the boons™️
tepid light
whoa buy me dinner first
latent moon
lmao
mint coral
what is em4?
better dad
tepid light
better dad
no no he's still just as bad of a father as before
mint coral
i guess just do trippy beo and get the boons™️
i mean even trippy beo sucks cuz you are forced into infernal soul
signal aspen
Em4 meta for 10 heat
latent moon
i mean even trippy beo sucks cuz you are forced into infernal soul
oh true
latent moon
alright next step up: em4 with FO
raw herald
is it run 3?
Yea
signal aspen
alright next step up: hl5 lc4 js3 em4 cp2 bp2 uc fo2 hs ri4 ap2 td3
raw herald
Do it anyway
signal aspen
do first run 32
tepid light
i won't lie, ||seeing hades suddenly go invis in second phase and sic cerberus on me definitely made me jump||
signal aspen
best part of the fight tbh
tepid light
i was so confused because i was like "wait he's not supposed to do that in this phase"
then ||cerberus' face appeared on screen as a summon||
and ho boy was that a shock
tbh i didn't expect to do that well with nemesis blade
signal aspen
tepid light
but artemis+aphro speaks for itself
latent moon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/949807564445597736/cer...
wait does cerby himself deal damage too and not just the falling rocks?
signal aspen
yeah he does damage
latent moon
that's a pot moment
signal aspen
thats why you dont wanna be in the middle when he goes into p2p2
tepid light
i suppose there's a reason why you don't fight him
beyond zag not wanting to hurt the dog
latent moon
it do be like that sometimes
spice hare
i keep accidentally escaping with meme shield builds
at what heat will this tomfoolery end
tepid light
shield do be like that
latent moon
at what heat will this tomfoolery end
What heat are you at rn?
latent moon
If you're going up 1 by 1 it'll be a while until the shield cheese stops being as strong but it'll still be strong lol
I love the shield block
tall holly
a power unsurpassed
spice hare
tall holly
*calmly ignores dash mechanism
latent moon
a power unsurpassed
It's saved my ass many times against dad for 50 heat I stand by shield block lmao
spice hare
you can block the entirety of his laser too
latent moon
*calmly ignores dash mechanism
With shield you could run ruthless reflex if you want lmao
latent moon
you have to swing then block
Dash strike brings the shield down faster
At least for beo anyways
spice hare
got to the top with guan yu and hades completely annihilate my 30 health kekw
tall holly
yeah gy do be like that
latent moon
Gy gaming
signal aspen
the aspects arent bad lmao
signal aspen
zag aspect is not an aspect
tall holly
arthur + aphro atk i guess?
signal aspen
and arthur is goated wdym
warm nimbus
and arthur is goated wdym
when did you become an arthur sweat
signal aspen
last night
warm nimbus
bruh
signal aspen
tall holly
and the raw damage
spice hare
i got coronatch last aspect while dying over and over for BEOWOLF
damn chaos why you hate me
all the flavour text
signal aspen
thats fine beo sucks
tall holly
it's the best shield personally
spice hare
debateable
latent moon
Beo is horrid
spice hare
cant believe last week i was crying over hades beating my ass for the 4th time and then suddenly i escaped 7 times now lmao
formal sinew
got to the top with guan yu and hades completely annihilate my 30 health kekw
I did that but I used demeters ice on atk and Artemis crit on special
Then start with a fully charged spin and watch it all go from there
spice hare
spice hare
I did that but I used demeters ice on atk and Artemis crit on special
ah i put dio on attack
and i got aphro cast kekw
austere loom
before I go do something stupid and buy a gate of Ixion
do Chaos gates take less HP when you have less HP?
signal aspen
no
signal aspen
yeah dont buy a chaos gate
warm nimbus
yeah dont buy a chaos gate
alternatively do and get +117% special damage for the terrible curse of taking +22% damage for the next 3 rooms
signal aspen
thats horrible
tepid light
lvl 12 aphro cast with hera
this is quite a run
lvl 15
and lvl 11 poseidon attack
that duo boon is hilarious
latent moon
Tempest strike gaming
signal aspen
and lvl 11 poseidon attack
how much is that like 80% damage?
tepid light
how much is that like 80% damage?
+102%, actually
raw herald
Level 1 🗿
tepid light
i lost to dad with that build
brb reconsidering my life choices
i keep forgetting about that spear throw attack he gets
and taking 50 dmg to the face because of it
signal aspen
Yeah em4 kinda hard
tepid light
i will not give up
tepid light
Shocking discovery: having 47% dodge chance makes things a lot easier
lean timber
shockingly
tepid light
unga bunga'd dad to death with 47% dodge chance malphon
no dd's left, 50hp
ez clap
austere loom
is level 2 Eris good enough?
have enough blood for 3 but I'm saving it for when Nyx finally feels like giving me Arthur
lean timber
if you're chasing arthur it's fine but lv. 5 eris is completely dwarfs lv. 2
austere loom
huh
Asterius gave me the codewords for Gilgamesh even though I had the Rail equipped
lean timber
yeah weapon doesn't matter
austere loom
it doesn't?
lean timber
as long as they've mentioned the weapon before, they'll give you the code word on any later run
austere loom
ah that saves me some time then
but I'm not sure if Zeus has talked about the rail before
must have
at this point
lean timber
like chaos has a phrase "i see you bear my shield, the all-seeing aegis, that i wielded from the dawn of time" or something. once you hear that, you're ready for chaos to give you the code phrase later, even if you don't have the shield on that run
lean timber
all the hidden aspects have that
austere loom
not worth leveling him up unless you already have excess blood, no?
lean timber
gilgamesh? nah not rly
lean timber
i would focus on the better aspects: beo, rama, maybe even guan yu, etc
hell even lucifer is better than gilgamesh lol. i would consider it the worst hidden aspect
austere loom
I just think it looks cool
but fine
just gotta find a way to trigger the dialogue
spice hare
hot damn nemesis aspect is good
lean timber
nah it looks cool but as far as results it won't help too much i don't think. feel free to try it out tho
spice hare
hot damn nemesis aspect is good
zeus attack and poseidon dash
lean timber
it's your blood and you can always get more
spice hare
lean timber
posideon dash nemesis. interesting. lol
austere loom
also got the hammer that makes the thrust stronger and crit more
lean timber
bro took zeus attack on nem
ah yes allow me to not upgrade my attack % on the critical attack aspect lol
spice hare
and it *hurts*
for you or them lol
spice hare
Zeus attack tho <:thanthink:669246004142538753>
well its not like i had a choice
austere loom
Aphro gives the biggest damage boos
spice hare
its either attack, double thunder, or thunder on near miss
austere loom
so them
patent mesa
its either attack, double thunder, or thunder on near miss
depending on your boons double thunder is op
lean timber
double strike is bugged sometimes
lean timber
isn't there a frame limit for thunder?
internal cooldown doesn't apply to double strike it counts as one event i think
but yes there is a limit
austere loom
Which weapon has a good "Aspect of Zagreus"?
patent mesa
Which weapon has a good "Aspect of Zagreus"?
shield, bow, rail and fists to an extent
warm nimbus
shield and bow really
brisk trail
i thought the sword was good, but than again i just started playing like a week ago
and the fact that i use GM..
warm nimbus
you admitted zshield is op
i mean i think it sucks but everyone else says its good
ive accepted that ill never be good with it
patent mesa
I hate non-Hestia gun
yeah it be like that
zagreus rail is good but only with one specific hammer
otherwise it's pretty awful
austere loom
which hammer?
patent mesa
spread fire
austere loom
is that the one where it turns into a shotgun?
patent mesa
yeah
warm nimbus
yeah
austere loom
that's rough RNG
patent mesa
on eris it can kinda ruin the whole run, on hestia it's a slight downgrade due to killing range and ammo
but zag rail's inherent extra ammo can tank the ammo loss
warm nimbus
on hestia it literally almost doesnt make a difference
austere loom
had it on Hestia
doesn't change the reload bullet
everything else after works as intended
inland fiber
thinking about getting this game. Is the game hard and frustrating? What incentives does the game give you to keep replaying it?
austere loom
Story?
warm nimbus
its not particularly hard unless you specifically challenge yourself
warm nimbus
incentives to keep playing? its fun
austere loom
by the time it gets hard, you choose how hard
spice hare
thinking about getting this game. Is the game hard and frustrating? What incenti...
its hard when you dont know anything at the beginning but once you learn boons, weapons, enemy attack pattern n stuff, you can speedrun thru all three zones easily
dont give up 👍
brisk trail
beating the final boss, [REDACTED], is the only way to get to the good story
brisk trail
also it's a fun game
^
spice hare
i used to hate hades until dionysus zeus shield
austere loom
mine was Trippy flare bow
brisk trail
the best part of the game for me is probabaly eurydice's level
austere loom
mine is make Theseus shut up
austere loom
Hero of justice or whatever
brisk trail
eugh
austere loom
like Hades said, heroes like Hercules are known for their deeds
not their good personality
brisk trail
duo boons are hard to get, but im on a run right about now and i just got hunting blades, huh.
austere loom
nice
brisk trail
im confused on why its getting removed from gamepass
austere loom
that makes the blades so much better
I only have one God keep sake at one star
it's Poseidon
brisk trail
i personally use the gilgamesh claws with aphrodities strike and the blade dash
austere loom
can't reallythink of a build where he's that good
brisk trail
i think its a good combo, but not sure
brisk trail
espically when your not seeking them out during every run
and you've gotta avoid spoilers like the plauge
latent moon
Ares call is not actually as good as you think
warm nimbus
can't reallythink of a build where he's that good
tidal dash is an amazing boon
and also flood flare beo lol
also styx shredder is good
brisk trail
i havent gotten that far into the game, how is tidal dash good?
warm nimbus
i havent gotten that far into the game, how is tidal dash good?
big damage
brisk trail
oh
snow skiff
tidal dash big dps
warm nimbus
the pushing stuff isnt so important unless youre speedrunning
brisk trail
and here i was perferring aphro's strike with the rift dash, with the gilgamesh claws
snow skiff
i perfer ares
the more u play the more u come to realize it isn't really black and white like this
brisk trail
since i like stunlocking enemys
snow skiff
every god does their own job
warm nimbus
but on an aspect like eris you can end up doing over 300 damage/dash with tidal dash lol
warm nimbus
the more u play the more u come to realize it isn't really black and white like ...
^^ this is why tier lists for gods or boons or whatever are impossible to make for this game
tepid light
person below me thinks skelly is best boy
snow skiff
^^ this is why tier lists for gods or boons or whatever are impossible to make f...
aspect of zagreus rail boon tier list
tepid light
gottem
warm nimbus
because whats good to get depends on your aspect, heat level, and even what you already have in your build
tepid light
and playstyle
snow skiff
wdym you don't shoot for numbing sensation every run 😡
tepid light
gn
brisk trail
not sure if i should keep GM on, a lot of people dont use it
timid osprey
not sure if i should keep GM on, a lot of people dont use it
what's GM?
brisk trail
godmode
timid osprey
oh
you could use godmode if you're stuck
like real stuck
if you want a good roguelike - turn it off
brisk trail
it feels like cheating
but than again, i'd get my ass handed to me by extreme measures [REDACTED]
timid osprey
truly
latent moon
Nothing wrong with using god mode if you want to
timid osprey
this ^
latent moon
I will say that once you get hit a lot less and notice that you're hardly getting hit, I'd turn it off and see how it goes
brisk trail
oh no, im the type to just tank the damage over actually dodging it
timid osprey
@latent moon do you know why hades' discord custom status doesn't work anymore? when i used to play during 2020 it worked well.
latent moon
oh no, im the type to just tank the damage over actually dodging it
At low heats I do the same lol
brisk trail
maybe that's why i use aspect of author..
latent moon
<@384127040992837633> do you know why hades' discord custom status doesn't work ...
Idk what you're talking about lol I've only been here for like a month or something
latent moon
maybe that's why i use aspect of author..
Arthur is meant to be a tank build so yeah explains a lot
Try getting into other aspects, most of the are pretty good
brisk trail
i personally like the gilgamesh claws with aphro's strike
because i love stunlocking enemys
latent moon
Oh boy I haven't touched gilga in a hot minute and I'm dreading 32 heat with lmao
brisk trail
32? isnt 50 something the max
latent moon
Although aphros atk % is high, idk if giglas base atk damage is high enough to actually make the % bonus worth it
latent moon
32? isnt 50 something the max
64 Is the max
brisk trail
huh.
latent moon
But 32 is like, the low end of the high heat spectrum
It's what most casual players consider to be a reasonable final heat accomplishment
Mostly because you get a skelly statue for it
brisk trail
huh,
and here i was thinking that my 16 minute run with the aspect of author was good
latent moon
That is pretty good
lean timber
Idk what you're talking about lol I've only been here for like a month or someth...
that's completely false lol you've been here longer than i have
latent moon
Oh have I really been here that long lmao
lean timber
yes
latent moon
2 months maybe then idk
lean timber
-whois this guy lol
latent moon
Not exactly that long tho
latent moon
Lmfao
spice hare
damn dude i just won with the nemesis sword
latent moon
Nice
spice hare
24 mins my best time yet
latent moon
Very nice
spice hare
lean timber
sub 6 or bust
snow skiff
Would a bp10nemy have savior or cloner
brisk trail
im not sure what keepsake is good, i just use the old spiked collar with the companion rib
snow skiff
Generally you start with god keepsakes to control your build
Into styx you take a defensive keepsake
latent moon
Cloner savior blacklisted so you have to pick one
Well if we're breaking the rules with bp10 already why not break 1 more
spice hare
im not sure what keepsake is good, i just use the old spiked collar with the com...
jesus christ
i mean uh
latent moon
Into styx you take a defensive keepsake
Styx and Elysium if you're worried about that
spice hare
zeus almighty...
lean timber
cloner savior is mandatory on every single enemy ESPECIALLY bosses
snow skiff
Generally acorn
spice hare
YOU USE SPIKED COLLAR?
latent moon
Spiked collar isn't bad
snow skiff
Sometimes spiked collar can work
brisk trail
uh
lean timber
spiked collar is p good??
brisk trail
yeah
snow skiff
Tooth can work
lean timber
nothing is wrong with spiked collar
latent moon
Spiked collar can give more hp than tooth actually
brisk trail
i used to use tooth but than i noticed i wasnt dying as much
snow skiff
If you're feeling very spicy, you can grab broken spearpoint
brisk trail
so i swapped to spiked collar
spice hare
i mean theres that thing that gives you 5 free shield on boss fights
snow skiff
If ur like very close to ur desired build you can nab coin purse
latent moon
i mean theres that thing that gives you 5 free shield on boss fights
Acorn
spice hare
ah yea
lean timber
acorn mid. i said it
latent moon
Spiked collar isn't as bad as it seems if you count in the hp it gives with death defiances
tepid light
pom blossom master race
snow skiff
Non HL5 user detected
spice hare
proud to say i didnt use a single acorn for the last two escape
grinding other keepsake just for the hell of it
lean timber
Non HL5 user detected
i've proudly ran hl5 on all my heat pacts lol it was satire you fool
tepid light
acorn is very effective but i don't use it often because i don't want to get reliant on a crutch
lean timber
i will destroy you
snow skiff
There's also some plume strats to tap for hermes legendaries or rd but those are extremely few and far between
latent moon
I tried that on a 32 run for some weapon
brisk trail
speaking of hermes, i've maxed out his keepsake but i cant get his favor for some reason
latent moon
Didn't get it
lean timber
what, the hermes strat? yeah it's a cheap gambit imo
doesn't pay off as much as one thinks it might usually
latent moon
I mean I didn't have anything better to take into aspho lol
snow skiff
Sometimes i just take it to hardroll rd lmao
latent moon
I don't remember what aspect I used but I had mostly everything I wanted of tart
snow skiff
Generally I prefer coin purse for a filler keepsake though
And pom blossom is bait
Don't use it
latent moon
Mom pom good if you get the right god at the start but that's about it lol
deft canyon
I never used acorn lol
tepid light
Eh I like blossom
I've had fun taking it after beating the heroes
and just farming the satyr tunnels for the free level ups
latent moon
Forcing 5 sack on yourself 
snow skiff
Well it can be fun
latent moon
I hate styx
snow skiff
But if you're looking to clear a heat run you should probably not take it
tepid light
Well it can be fun
That's the point of the game, no?
deft canyon
Ah yes the heroes
tepid light
styx?
deft canyon
The chad and the King who talks like a freaking arrogant douche
snow skiff
Oh and if you want to haha go fast you can take sigil into styx
That's about it for the major keepsakes
Everything i didn't talk about is a stinker don't use it
deft canyon
"Hey there" "Hey there short one" "I SHALL SMITE U DOWN U WICKED MONSTER FOR THAT IS MY DUTY AS THE HERO AND CHAMPION OF ELYSIUM"
tepid light
"Hey there" "Hey there short one" "I SHALL SMITE U DOWN U WICKED MONSTER FOR T...
greek heroes do be like that
strong ridge
hourglass is highly good
tepid light
even achilles was an arrogant, petty jerk in the original stories
latent moon
I've yet to use the earring strat
strong ridge
especially on CF
deft canyon
Asterius is chad btw.
brisk trail
Asterius is chad btw.
^
deft canyon
even achilles was an arrogant, petty jerk in the original stories
Glad to see that they captured it in the game.
tepid light
Glad to see that they captured it in the game.
uhhh
no
i wouldn't say he's like that in hades
snow skiff
hourglass is highly good
I do love buying a touch of styx dark at the beginning of asphodel and it carrying literally all the way to the final boss
strong ridge
I do love buying a touch of styx dark at the beginning of asphodel and it carryi...
ichor gameing
brisk trail
I do love buying a touch of styx dark at the beginning of asphodel and it carryi...
thats like picking up a cool stick you found in one city, and carrying it back to your home city
the male instinct
deft canyon
Theseus was the arrogant douche MB
strong ridge
im talking abt the 10% speed buff lmao
strong ridge
them things like 15 chambers w hourglass
lean timber
ok i keep seeing this and it bugs me, when people kill themselves in asphodel, they don't use the boat buffer strat. am i the only one that knows about this? is there any reason not to do this?
snow skiff
Hourglass hydralite kinda cracked
lean timber
Hourglass hydralite kinda cracked
not on lc4
strong ridge
hydralite when LC
brisk trail
ok i keep seeing this and it bugs me, when people kill themselves in asphodel, t...
boat buffer strat?
strong ridge
but hydralite is fun
tepid light
i don't use hourglass that much, just because i don't really buy much stuff from the well
lean timber
yeah you kill yourself in the lava of asphodel right next to the boat to leave to the next chamber, then while you go thru the death animation buffer the button to leave and you immediately do it. @latent moon do you know about this? why don't ppl do it?
snow skiff
Yarns
tepid light
i'll buy hp items if i need to, and yarn
lean timber
sorry for ping but it's seriously bothering me
snow skiff
yeah you kill yourself in the lava of asphodel right next to the boat to leave t...
Oh yeah
tepid light
that's about it
latent moon
Oh yeah I do that if I'm near the exit when I'm done
lean timber
but it saves a lot of time depending on room layout
i've seen all kinds of runs that don't use it why don't they??
does it mess with the timer?
lean timber
any amount of time saved is a lot of time
latent moon
Td3 doesn't screw me over in 32 heat so I don't really care lmao
lean timber
i suppose
snow skiff
Td3 is not going to be what screws you over in asphodel
The rollover time is nice but eh
lean timber
but wr runs should do it more
deft canyon
But hey one thing is clear they like each other and they are bros lol
And i like how they are bros
latent moon
Td3 is not going to be what screws you over in asphodel
Lernie
brisk trail
its probably the easiest one on the list
latent moon
On em2 yeah it can suck but eh not bad
brisk trail
you just have to be careful, or tanky enough to not care
snow skiff
HS is hella bait
brisk trail
Td1 is the easiest lmao
td1?
snow skiff
"don't touch the traps lol" hades pots do 150 damage
latent moon
Oh god I forgot about the pots yeah HS sucks balls
snow skiff
Lava eats your hp like its breakfast
strong ridge
i mean one aoe takes care of pots
latent moon
One pot also takes care of you
snow skiff
Random ely arrow = L
latent moon
Styx axe:
brisk trail
tight deadline is difficult for me
snow skiff
Tight deadline 1 shouldn't be
latent moon
tight deadline is difficult for me
Td1 is a 36 minute run
snow skiff
^
strong ridge
Hs is 40+ heat
lean timber
tight deadline is difficult for me
ah yes 250 in one hit, let's go
snow skiff
And leftover time adds up
latent moon
9 per region, time carries over
brisk trail
Td1 is a 36 minute run
yeah, just lots of pressure
lean timber
nah hs only matters because of asphodel, one missed dash into the lava hits you for 15 and on higher heat that can be life or death
snow skiff
But i also take js at 40 so
lean timber
js 40 based gaming
strong ridge
40 hs is probably not worth but i wouldnt think it too unreasonable
snow skiff
Fair
latent moon
But i also take js at 40 so
I took js2 and HS for my 40 lmao
snow skiff
I would've js3 👍
strong ridge
like using hs to save on CF might help you powerscale better but eh
far easier to not take HS
latent moon
Eh HS isn't as bad as it seems at only 40, it's not that much more difficult than 32 tbh
Also resets SD faster which is nice
snow skiff
Just take CP to ease off on CF 😁👍✨⭐✨
lean timber
I took js2 and HS for my 40 lmao
i ran uhhh js2 i think but left hs off
cuz yeah i can't aim for sheeit
latent moon
Not me running around on 32 heat between Ely eggs because they only deal 15 damage
lean timber
ok i hate dc because i look at it and think "oh dire consequences"
because of lasting consequences
and it messes me up
snow skiff
Dark castle
latent moon
Lmfao
lean timber
ohhhh i get what it's thinking. that's so dumb lmfao
latent moon
Oh lmao makes sense
snow skiff
L
lean timber
bruh 
brisk trail
holy, em4's music is badass
lean timber
i am going to die aren't i
brisk trail
i am going to die aren't i
literally me because i dont have a good build
im only on 14 heat
lean timber
not what i am referring to!
void vigil
please dont bypass the swear filter, even just to clarify
acoustic bolt
@snow skiff yeah but there's no guarantee i was going to get rd with the reroll
void vigil
yeah i didnt know it filtered the typos, i guess its there as a safety measure
brisk trail
did it, beat 14 heat, finally
latent moon
<@293880606650269696> yeah but there's no guarantee i was going to get rd with t...
Rd is always worth the gamble lol
Imo anyways
Unless you're doing UC and need to save rerolls for purging
At that point I just take Hermes for FF
snow skiff
Funny to hardroll for rd
brisk trail
so many things that i dont understand
latent moon
And then sell it because of UC
snow skiff
What do you mean you don't want to keep the common flurry cast
Its so annoying how much absolute garbage hermes has
lean timber
rd is honestly not something i benefit from personally unless i take +speed
hyper sprint suck
snow skiff
Can't get crap on ap2 out of that guy
acoustic bolt
so many things that i dont understand
RD: rush delivery
UC: underworld customs. the pact that makes you purge a boon at the end of biomes.
strong ridge
you hope you get good speed bonus on 1st hermes to justify rd
latent moon
Can't get crap on ap2 out of that guy
Just get the boons smh
snow skiff
Hermes is literally detroit
brisk trail
RD: rush delivery
UC: underworld customs. the pact that makes you purge a boon ...
thank you
acoustic bolt
it was an extension of a conversation about something i posted in victory boasting
lean timber
i would usually rather have a dash or quick reload if i'm running hera
latent moon
you hope you get good speed bonus on 1st hermes to justify rd
Basically just hyper sprint
Haste is fine but eh
lean timber
although if he offers me speed? i usually take it
strong ridge
the dash bonus speed or rare greater haste is rd playground
the mirror talent that buffs boon rarityis one of the few ways to get good rarity hermes boon
snow skiff
Haste is just a bad ichor smh
strong ridge
haste is good lol
lean timber
? at common it gives the same as an ichor
snow skiff
They should make speed debuffs from chaos reduce your damage with rd
strong ridge
common feels pretty bad but you dont take haste for base speed you take it for hourglass ichor gameing
lean timber
ichor gameing
brisk trail
is two titan blood for ambrosia a good deal? just saw it in the wreched broker
snow skiff
Ambro suck
lean timber
you want your blood
brisk trail
ok
snow skiff
Technically you only need 11 ambro
latent moon
Ambrosia isn't useful considering you can get so much of it just from the fated list
That's 2 favors lmao
snow skiff
1 for meg and 10 to max meg companion
brisk trail
im just having troubles running in with than and giving him nector/ambrosia
snow skiff
Oh
latent moon
Skelly I think
snow skiff
Right
lean timber
i mean getting the keepsake at lv. 1 costs 1, and the other levels cost 2 3 4 5
so ten is all you need
snow skiff
Levels cost 1 2 3 4 actually
lean timber
nuh uh
latent moon
1 2 3 4 5 doesn't equal 10
brisk trail
im also having trouble getting the 'Defiance' boon from chaos
latent moon
Lmfao
lean timber
im also having trouble getting the 'Defiance' boon from chaos
it's quite hard to get
snow skiff
Getting defiance kinda suck
lean timber
very rare
snow skiff
Run legacy
latent moon
maybe i'm not good at math
Says the man who pulled over while driving to do math
snow skiff
And take multiple chaos
lean timber
I LIKE IT DOESN'T MEAN I'M GOOD AT IT
snow skiff
Says the man who pulled over while driving to do math
You can do math while sucking at it
brisk trail
i only encounter chaos like, once a run
snow skiff
Use wells
latent moon
Getting defiance kinda suck
I got 2 in the same run yesterday and still died lmao
snow skiff
Light of ix insane
strong ridge
im also having trouble getting the 'Defiance' boon from chaos
rarity mirror talent + rng
lean timber
also yeah you have to visit chaos once, and then after that it may be offered.
latent moon
32 uh chaos?
lean timber
64 hestia i think
latent moon
Something bad
snow skiff
Ok wtf you have no excuse
brisk trail
rarity mirror talent + rng
what talent is that?
lean timber
bruh
snow skiff
Aspect of cshot
latent moon
I had less than 200 hp total and I walked into champs with 15 hp because I couldn't reset SD
lean timber
what talent is that?
gods' legacy
gives +10% chance for a legendary boon at max level
strong ridge
what talent is that?
idk tbh lol read the descriptions
its one of the lower ones
ideally on chaos 1 u get the boon that buffs boon rarity
snow skiff
Ok but aspect of cshot
latent moon
Didn't manage my SD well before I went into champs
latent moon
Ok but aspect of cshot
Okay but chaos
snow skiff
U problem imo
lean timber
ok and??? chaos best shield
latent moon
U problem imo
Yeah lmao I'm not good with shields that aren't beo
snow skiff
Is it weird that i skip chaos gates when running heat
brisk trail
cant get it, im saving up for that thing that costs around 3000 darkness that i wont disclose due to spoilers
snow skiff
Oh wait chaos shield
latent moon
Yeah
snow skiff
Aspect of cshot bruv
lean timber
Is it weird that i skip chaos gates when running heat
if you have sd you're punishing yourself. free room + nice benefit
latent moon
I mean
latent moon
Chaos on 32 heat isn't bad
lean timber
okay well you should have said ap2 because that's different
strong ridge
ap would feel better if it didnt display what was behind door 1
lean timber
yes that's fine
snow skiff
32 isn't heat
strong ridge
but it does and it hurts
strong ridge
if all it showed was what u can take it would not feel god awful
lean timber
you're not new here how do you not know this
brisk trail
time for 15 heat with aspect of author, shouldnt be too hard
lean timber
latent moon
~~32 isn't heat~~
That's why I took chaos lmao it's a free room and I don't like using chaos shield
snow skiff
if all it showed was what u can take it would not feel god awful
Mfw see heart rend 3 times in a run and its marked off every time
strong ridge
f
latent moon
Should've just gotten the boon tbh
snow skiff
That's why I took chaos lmao it's a free room and I don't like using chaos shiel...
True non beo shields suck
latent moon
Idk about you but I would've personally
snow skiff
Aspect of cshot L
strong ridge
supa nova
latent moon
Super nova removes knockback right
brisk trail
it doesnt
snow skiff
Shadow on arthur and super nova on everything else
strong ridge
shadow slash is probably better but supa nova is swag money
snow skiff
No that's double nova
latent moon
Oh
snow skiff
Shadow slash kinda suck
latent moon
If this is Arthur then shadow slash
snow skiff
U never use standing strike on sword unless arthur
brisk trail
Shadow on arthur and super nova on everything else
well, i have 200 hp base thanks to the aspect and spiked collar
snow skiff
Flurry slash arthur when
brisk trail
so that would leave me with 140 HP, right?
latent moon
Don't take cursed slash on Arthur
brisk trail
oh
snow skiff
Shadow is the good one cursed is the L one
strong ridge
cursed arthur name checks out
brisk trail
so im guessing i should pick super nova?
latent moon
Take shadow
brisk trail
ok
snow skiff
Super nova suck on arthur
Remove greater consecration and just put it on super nova tbh
brisk trail
proceeds to kill a skull at its front, thus defeating the purpose of the skill
strong ridge
but u do flip
latent moon
Double nova is eh considering it removes knockback but yeah
lean timber
situationally it's good
latent moon
Super nova just doesn't make the sword worse compared to the other hammers lmao
latent moon
It's not great but its also just better than the others
lean timber
p much
latent moon
And dedge is just good
lean timber
dedge is +1 dash attack hit +20% damage right
latent moon
Yeah
latent moon
It's already hitting twice
strong ridge
its literally 120%
strong ridge
does dash strk do mor
latent moon
Yeah exactly lmao the 20 is fine
lean timber
😛
strong ridge
i forgor 💀
lean timber
forgor 💀
latent moon
does dash strk do mor
Not sure but it's just faster than standing atks so no one uses standing atks
snow skiff
Sword hammers either suck or do nothing
Double edge is the only one that tries to exist
strong ridge
i like the one where i can do flips
lean timber
that is one of the worst hammers lol
snow skiff
Breaching slash is ok
latent moon
Double edge is the only one that tries to exist
And dedge isn't even necessary for sword lmao it's just nice
strong ridge
that is one of the worst hammers lol
bootleg bonus dash
snow skiff
Piercing wave 💀
latent moon
Bootleg bonus dash kinda doodoo