h1-discussion

[lean timber]

well... mystery solved

[rustic vale]

🦕

[acoustic bolt]

You know my roommate said that exact same thing about fighting games and arthur except it's his favorite aspect

i mean that's exactly why he thinks he likes it

[latent moon]

I mean if you like the tank playstyle then that's just Arthur for you lol

Dmg reduction with special, aphro atk being ideal so also inflicting weak

[lean timber]

hmm... yeah

[latent moon]

Also an extra 50 hp at max level

[rustic vale]

the only sad thing is damage reduction not being additive

[lean timber]

extra 50hp comes at lv. 1

the damage reduction is what increases

[latent moon]

Oh danf

Lvl 1 Arthur goated

[lean timber]

it's pretty powerful at lv.1 for what it is lol

[rustic vale]

bronze skin would actually be useful

[lean timber]

yeah fs

[latent moon]

Lmfao

The aphro boons where weak effects are more potent and her damage resistance is so much better

[lean timber]

aphrodite multiclasses hard

[latent moon]

Big damage and makes you tank better

[rustic vale]

straight classing in hades 🙂

[latent moon]

And access to smair

And other duos I don't remember the names of

[rustic vale]

artemis multiclasses hard I think

[latent moon]

I main the nuke aspect also known as beo

[rustic vale]

heart rend, deadly reversal, lightning rod, mirage shot, hunting blades

splitting head ache

[lean timber]

artemis is so freakin good...

[rustic vale]

enhanced meme beams

[lean timber]

i love artemis...

[rustic vale]

artemis is best girl for a reason

[latent moon]

Are you just listing good duos at this point

[lean timber]

perhaps

[rustic vale]

artemis duos

whatever the artemis + chao duo is

[latent moon]

I mean her whole kit revolves around dealing big damage lol

[jagged wadi]

Artemis has the best boons since you always love bonus damage and critical chances

[rustic vale]

artemis is best girl and best boon giver

[jagged wadi]

yes!

[latent moon]

Arty atk on hestia so you can deal the occasional 470 damage or whatever

[rustic vale]

just get chaos and heart rend

easy

[lean timber]

heart rend arthur to shred open whatever is in front of you

[rustic vale]

arthur with crit boons kinda distasteful

[latent moon]

I remember I did heart rend luci with arty triple bomb that was fun

[lean timber]

i consider myself distasteful

[rustic vale]

idk

having feelings for artemis instantly brings you up to tasteful

aphro attack luci

[latent moon]

No aphro dash lol

[rustic vale]

surely not as good as pos attack luci

[latent moon]

Zeus atk

Aphro dash so you dash in to activate the bombs

[lean timber]

thank God aphrodite dash is useless so that duos are at least possible to get 🙏

vkbms

[latent moon]

I was relying on autocorrect there lmao

[high island]

Her Dash is great.

[high island]

https://i.imgur.com/W5NAKRF.jpg

[rustic vale]

bananas were you the one who was saying that number and crit chances were weird

[lean timber]

nyaa being summoned the moment i have a wrong opinion:

[latent moon]

I like her dash if I'm playing a weapon that gets in close a lot

Free weak apply basically

[high island]

Great pom scaling, too.

[lean timber]

i would much rather have athena in most cases

[latent moon]

Uh elaborate

[rustic vale]

uh

[lean timber]

uh

[latent moon]

Oh the thing like

"hits 5 times and 20% crit chance so therefore guaranteed crit" sorta thing

[high island]

Yeah, but you also take over 10 minutes.

[lean timber]

guys she's insulting me again

[rustic vale]

something or other about 5 hits and 20% crit chance only having a 67% chance to crit

[latent moon]

ME with aphro dash based

[spice hare]

aboutta hit up hades with full revive and zeus spear build

[latent moon]

Yeah

[spice hare]

wish me luck guys ;-;

[latent moon]

Don't die

[rustic vale]

die

[latent moon]

Oh

[high island]

It's not an insult.

Just an observation.

[rustic vale]

hmm

piercing volley bad because hearsay

thoughts

[lean timber]

weh

[high island]

Piercing Volley is fine.

[lean timber]

no i don't have thoughts 💔

[latent moon]

That's an oversimplification of the event lmao

It's more like none of us can actually prove it's shorter

[lean timber]

i wish we had a bloodstone emote

[high island]

Same people who say Piercing Volley is bad used to say Relentless Volley was slower than a normal Volley (it's not). Just saying.

[rustic vale]

I would swear on my life that it fricks up your special somehow but I have = 0 proof

[rustic vale]

I never said that

[lean timber]

MiKE just came in and said it was shorter

[rustic vale]

also proofless but

hey

[latent moon]

It does, it makes hitting closer enemies a bit harder at least

[rustic vale]

idk

[latent moon]

It's the range part that we don't have any solid proof of

[lean timber]

today i learned that quitting without saving reverts your save back to the house! how funny!

not me trying to cheat chaos

[high island]

Steps to recover your save are in #h1-tech-fixes.

[latent moon]

We can't exactly see the range difference but we can see that piercing makes hitting close homing shots sometimes miss

[rustic vale]

lose your 32 heat save matty

do it

[latent moon]

If you have chaos in chamber 1 or 2 you can give up to reroll chaos

[lean timber]

with nearly every keepsake and weapon maxed? i would rather drink human blood

lucky me, it preserved nearly all my rng! so i got what i wanted back minus chaos. oh well.

[high island]

Well, it's literally the same seed.

[lean timber]

well the moment you step into c1 you're almost guaranteed to change something

but i got dem again so i'm good with it

chain shot again!! go away!!

[latent moon]

No everything stays the same until you die

Well

Chambers 1 and 2 stay the same

Unless it's chaos c2

[lean timber]

the gate was c2

the chaos was c3

but whatever idc lol

[latent moon]

Chaos appearing in c2 will always happen in that seed, their boons will always be different tho

[golden tide]

excuse me

[lean timber]

excused

[golden tide]

I had this game on switch for awile and got pretty far

and i just got it on pc

and im trying to do a cross save

but its not working on switch and isnt even appearing as an option on steam

what causes this?

[high island]

You're best off asking for help in #h1-tech-support.

[lean timber]

this run is poopy doodoo

got savaged by big hp burn flingers, along with really really bad boon rng

i'll be surprised to make it thru elysium

[golden tide]

thank you

[spice hare]

im back

used up all my revives when hades was half health phrase 2

and then the ground wave wiped me out

[lean timber]

lol! he got you good huh

those skulls are pretty difficult to deal with

[golden tide]

Hades belt attack when

[lean timber]

em4

[spice hare]

the vases that covers the entire map tho

hades only have like 4 attack loops but damn those vases and skulls

[lean timber]

ah yes, the traps

you can reduce the damage you receive from them with athena's sure footing boon - resist damage from traps. up to a 90% reduction. you only take 3 damage from them instead of 30. maybe look for that?

also try destroying them yourself so you don't accidentally walk into one. kind of hard to do with something like sword, but bow and rail do it pretty well

[alpine pelican]

that's really smart for high heat fights, i'll look for that in the future! thanks for the tip 👍

(also good for lava trips when fighting Lernie... 🥲

[lean timber]

athena is great for defense. she's a good goddess to get help from

yes, lava is considered a trap. so you can definitely benefit from it in asphodel

[spice hare]

folks, i did it

i beat the crap out of hades with zeus shield

mom was beautiful ;-;

[shy fable]

niiice

[austere loom]

when to use recharging bloodstone or whatever that thing is called?

[wraith turtle]

can anyone tell me what is the trial

[austere loom]

like I remember using it for Dionysus cast builds

[shy fable]

from what i remember, its good for Hera bow builds

[shy fable]

Trial of the Gods?

[wraith turtle]

ig

i m new at the game

[shy fable]

2 gods appear in 1 chamber. you pick one and the other gets mad and you battle a few waves of enemies WITH that angry god sending out attacks

[wraith turtle]

oh that one

thx

[shy fable]

basically 2 free boons if you're good at it. you CANT get Duo Boons from these chambers however

[wraith turtle]

thx and i asked it for achievements

[rustic vale]

stygian(recharge) is used just for dionysus cast builds and on normal cast builds it's infernal(not recharge), otherwise it's personal preference for non-cast builds

[lean timber]

i tried em4, fumbled every single input on the planet, and died

for 40 heat

[lapis trellis]

Fumbleboi

[austere loom]

chaos is really either really bad or super useful

no inbetween depending on what he's offering

since you pay with your life without the keepsake

[latent moon]

You can avoid em4 for 40 and 50 heat

Kinda not recommended for 50 heat unless modded but definitely not necessary for 40 heat

[warm nimbus]

yeah dont do em4 at 40 lol

barebones pact is like hl5 lc4 em3 bp2 mm uc fo2 td3 which is 36 and then you can add 4 points in other places

generally in dc/cf/js/hs

[deft canyon]

Damn using a remixed version of the opening theme as the Endboss theme never fails to hit lol

[acoustic bolt]

@brisk trail I donno if it's good but the pacts were mostly free. It was what was given to me here when I asked 😛

[brisk trail]

Ok.

[royal fern]

best gun aspect?

[acoustic bolt]

eris

[royal fern]

bet

[rustic vale]

I like them all for different reasons

[acoustic bolt]

do you only get the ME bonus damage if you trigger doom with ME?

or does it just increase doom damage anyway

[rustic vale]

I think so

Either way the ME bonus damage isn’t adding too much because I think it’s added after global damage calcs

I swear someone said that a while ago I will find it

I looked into it but I think I may have been mixed up with dire misfortune idk

[acoustic bolt]

I tested it the damage is higher if ME triggers

Can't find divine dash lol

[strange skiff]

I could do 40 heat but only with OP weapons like Hestia

That was pretty much my skill cap where improving beyond that would've required just too much of a time investment for me

May not have helped being on switch unmodded as you lose a lot of time on bad early rng

[pastel monolith]

i wana do a 40 heat

right now I'm still trying to improve my heats with each aspect

I think 27 is my lowest now

my highest is 36 with hestia and chiron

i played all day yesterday it was awesome

[raw herald]

hestia is a great one for 40

[pastel monolith]

I think i could do it if ibl try enough times and get a little lucky with rng

i typically keep the acorn on the entire run for higher heats

so i rely on the rng to give me good stuff

[patent mesa]

hestia sucks at 40 because 40 pact need DC2

[pastel monolith]

I could probably get away with starting with artemis tho with hestia

[warm nimbus]

you should probably only use acorn in elysium/styx

[pastel monolith]

ya

I just like the safety

[warm nimbus]

its better to use a god keepsake in tartarus and then another god keepsake in aspho or if you already have your build, coin purse/hourglass/tooth

[pastel monolith]

i can get to boss with 1hp and still be ok

[warm nimbus]

are you using stubborn defiance?

[pastel monolith]

for some reason im pretty crap at fighting the fury girls

no i usualy use death defiance

I should get used to stubborn tho

i know thats recommended for high heats but i need all the dds i can get for dad sometimes

[warm nimbus]

yeah stubborn defiance on lc4 helps a lot

[pastel monolith]

with forced overtime 2 im still getting used to it

[patent mesa]

man acorn for furies sounds nice

[warm nimbus]

taking 5 like 8 damage hits

[pastel monolith]

stupid thesis usualy rips my acorn apart with his chargy shooty move

im just overal not very good with sword or spear

or fists even

i get hit a lot when i use the close ranged weapons

I think im improving tho as i work my way up in heat with aspects i havent used as much

[warm nimbus]

also using god keepsakes in tartarus and asphodel and using lc4 with stubborn defiance can indirectly make dad easier

[pastel monolith]

whats lc4

[warm nimbus]

plus if you really want you can still get dds on sd

[warm nimbus]

lasting consequences 4

pact condition

[pastel monolith]

oh ya

i hate that one

i need to heal lol

[warm nimbus]

well its a lot easier if you use stubborn defiance

[pastel monolith]

I usualy use the dark regeneration too

[warm nimbus]

if youre not on lc4 you should use cthonic vitality

itll heal you more overall

but i really do recommend trying to get used to stubborn defiance

[pastel monolith]

ya ill make that switch next time I play

ive also been trying to get better at speedruns

[warm nimbus]

getting faster does help a lot with high heat

[pastel monolith]

ya especially minibosses

i need to practice how to use meg better

I know theres a guide but i havent looked at it yet

is there a video guide?

[warm nimbus]

yes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-Iovk-sbe8 this is the guide for doing meg summons, the one for 4 witches is a bit outdated

[pastel monolith]

thx

the one i miss the most is the witches

[warm nimbus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/523766792963751936/781098230372106260/Screenshot_199.png?width=1389&height=670

this is how you want to do the witches one

[pastel monolith]

or sometimes in styx with FO2 they move so fast i miss them

do u have any tips for using guan yu

[rustic vale]

Just use special

Only spin if you have quick spin and big spin

[pastel monolith]

that works with that charge hammer

do u ever use the spin move to heal?

[rustic vale]

Charged skewer on guan-yu

[pastel monolith]

everyime i try i just end up getting hit more

[latent moon]

When enemies are respawning you can

[pastel monolith]

that makes sense

[rustic vale]

Switch reacquired hades is now playable

[pastel monolith]

?

[rustic vale]

Breaking and entering was not commited bananas

[latent moon]

Damn

[acoustic bolt]

is there something else to do with titan blood, ambrosia, and diamonds once i've got max favor, max weapons, max companions, and all the music?

i'm still working on themes that i need keyes and nectar for at least

[pastel monolith]

i think on occasion u can trade them for a deal of the day

but basically no

[acoustic bolt]

oh dang

[rustic vale]

Go to hades room

Get your rank up

It’s only like a measily 325000 darkness along with a lot of the other resources to max that out

[signal aspen]

just stack as many resources as possible

[rustic vale]

Concentrated beam on luci is half bad as a cope hammer if you don’t see triple bomb first hammer

def not coping with concentrated beam rn because triple wasn’t first hammer

[snow skiff]

Routine inspection 2

[patent mesa]

did someone say JS

[warm nimbus]

yes at 40 heat

not js3 though

[patent mesa]

:(

JS3 = max bodyslam damage

believe it or not but certain savior rooms with zshield would be nearly impossible with JS0 but are trivial with JS3

[warm nimbus]

i dont think thats how that works but ok lmao

[patent mesa]

bodyslam stripping mass DC is good

[warm nimbus]

less enemies = less dc

[hardy storm]

hii im fairly new the game but have escaped 4 times now i know that like obviously everytime you escape you get different dialogue but does it ever change or do you just escape and speak or does something happen i don’t want spoilers tho that’s sounds kinda complicated sorry

[signal aspen]

something happens after a certain amount of clears

[shy fable]

complete 10 times... thats all

[lean timber]

i'm a sick individual

all i can see now is zagreus zipping around the room, loading crush shots and firing them relentlessly

every time i close my eyes

[latent moon]

Hera gamer moment

[upbeat tusk]

hey I'm playing hades can you guys recommend me any builds?
I haven't beaten hades himself

[lean timber]

bOING [shoo] bOING [shoo] bOING bOING [ding!] [shoo shoo] [pweesh] step step step step

I CAN'T GET ANY SLEEP

[latent moon]

How long have you been playing hades today lmfao

[lean timber]

i just woke up. haven't even picked up my switch today.

bouldy help

[sleek kite]

How many weapons have u unlocked?

[upbeat tusk]

all of them

[sleek kite]

I like bow with chiron* aspect. Sink a couple blood into that and go ham

Thats an easy low blood req weapon imo. Get the hammer that gives 3 extra arrows.

Uh. Artemis or aphro on the special.

[upbeat tusk]

I don't have any blood :/

[sleek kite]

Good. Because i meant chiron

https://www.leereamsnyder.com/blog/hades-build-guide

This is a great guide, but it might take some of the enjoyment out of it if you havnt already beaten it @upbeat tusk

[upbeat tusk]

thanks

died again to hades

[sleek kite]

What weapons have u put blood into?

[upbeat tusk]

spear and shiled

[sleek kite]

Which aspects?

[upbeat tusk]

should I trade ambrosia for titan blood?

[upbeat tusk]

let me se

[sleek kite]

Uh. Early on that might be ok? I dont need more ambrosia but i do need plenty more titans blood.

[upbeat tusk]

aspect of zeus on shield and aspect of achilles on spear

how much ambrosia should I trade I have 1 titan blood and 4 ambrosia

[boreal raven]

You don't have any companions unlocked yet, i assume?

[slim geyser]

achilies is great

[upbeat tusk]

nope

21st attemp to escape idk if it's good or not

[sleek kite]

Those are both great. Achilles is really good for cast builds. Its one of the best ways to get cast damage

Demeter is fun with it

[upbeat tusk]

why is it good for cast?

[boreal raven]

Each companion takes 10 to max so you probably will get enough by the time you have them unlocked if you grind pacts

[slim geyser]

Spear special amplifies global damage

[sleek kite]

Next 4 casts get the bonus damage. Thats massive

[gray apex]

No

It’s not global damage

It’s only for the next 4 attacks or casts

[sleek kite]

It works for the whole demeter beam tho. So special. Drop all casts. Hide

[upbeat tusk]

I have 3 more blood I mainly use fists and sword any good aspects for them?

[snow skiff]

nemesis is the only good sword aspect

[raw herald]

Poseidon is good with level 1

[snow skiff]

poseidon levels don't change that much

[sleek kite]

Get the duo boon with artemis that makes them track enemies better if u do decide to do the achilles meme beam

[snow skiff]

BEAM

[upbeat tusk]

so what should I unlock with 3 titan blood?

[snow skiff]

crystal beams when no glacial glare

[raw herald]

Nemesis or Poseidon

Or Demeter

[upbeat tusk]

for fists?

[boreal raven]

yes

merciful end my beloved

[upbeat tusk]

my brain hurts just tell me something

[raw herald]

Nemesis

Poseidon

Demeter

Choose one of those

[snow skiff]

u have 3 blood

wait

[upbeat tusk]

for which weapon

[snow skiff]

yeah 3

just throw one in nemesis

[raw herald]

Nemesis and Poseidon are sword, Demeter is fists

Level 1 of the third row of aspects is always 1 blood

I think that’s Demeter and Poseidon

[snow skiff]

lvl1 of third row is 2 blood

lvl1 of 2nd row is 1 blood

[upbeat tusk]

ok I unlocked nemesis and demeter

[raw herald]

Oh yeah

I thought it was 5/16/15/16 for some reason

[upbeat tusk]

now I need to learn how to do builds for them

[raw herald]

Both work well with merciful end

[snow skiff]

well if u don't have a clear yet i don't recommend that

[raw herald]

Ares on attack, Athena on dash and special, and the duo boon merciful end

[snow skiff]

very highrolly without some mirror stuff

[boreal raven]

^^

annoying af without legacy

[upbeat tusk]

what is that

[raw herald]

Even if you don’t get the duo, doom attack is still good to have

[raw herald]

Deflect attacks set off doom immediately

[sleek kite]

Ares athena Duo boon. I dont love it but its really good.

[upbeat tusk]

other 2 gods should be?

[snow skiff]

ideally you get mostly ares and athena

[raw herald]

Artemis and Zeus ideally, but it doesn’t matter much

Aphro is good for weak tho

[snow skiff]

if you get merciful end you throw on artemis for dr

[boreal raven]

some gods can muddy the duo pool

[raw herald]

Might be better for new players

[upbeat tusk]

thanks guys I need to sleep

[ivory perch]

haha lighting rod goes brrrrrrrrr

[raw herald]

More so lightning reflexes/Zeus aid and pp/mark/deadly reversal

But rod is fun too

[lean timber]

arty zeus is a really solid pairing. big damage

even without the duo they mesh quite well i feel

[digital orbit]

hi guys

can I ask something?

[boreal raven]

yeah

[lean timber]

perhaps

[digital orbit]

whats the portal looking thing on workroom

where souls work

[lean timber]

you'll find out eventually

[digital orbit]

oh really

[lean timber]

start talking more/giving gifts to nyx and chaos if you want to learn more about it

[digital orbit]

thx

[lean timber]

unfortunately it's not something zagreus can use but it's a cool little story detail

[digital orbit]

kay

I wish 5 stack calls were different than usual

[lean timber]

they are

full meter calls have different effects

which one do you mean

[digital orbit]

oh

I never knew that

[lean timber]

yeah they all have a different effect. sometimes it just lasts longer, other times it does more damage, etc.

[digital orbit]

oh yeah I know that

[boreal raven]

when do you even use full call tbh

i almost never find myself needing to use it, or even getting the time for it to build up

[lean timber]

full call is usually the more optimal version actually

[signal aspen]

Almost never

[digital orbit]

by different I mean unique

[signal aspen]

No

[lean timber]

artemis

[boreal raven]

yeah but if the thing you're killing is dead by the time you could use it, what does it matter

[signal aspen]

Who uses artemis

[lean timber]

i will destroy you

artemis is epic

[signal aspen]

It's decent

[digital orbit]

artemis is best

[lean timber]

[signal aspen]

🗿

[digital orbit]

what u mean

🗿

[signal aspen]

Aphro better

[lean timber]

ok fine BESIDES ARTEMIS single bar calls are the optimal calls to use

[signal aspen]

Doesn't need poms or rarity

[boreal raven]

when the hell do u even use artemis call

[lean timber]

b-b-based aphrodite call user??

[digital orbit]

yeah that is trash

[signal aspen]

Yeah

[lean timber]

i thought i was the only one i love aphro call

WHAT

STOP SLANDERING ARTEMIS CALL

[signal aspen]

Aphro call is goated

[lean timber]

it usually times itself perfectly to 1 shot the last stage of lernie

[digital orbit]

kissing everyone

[lean timber]

but yeah it's only for bosses

my top three calls are athena, posideon, aphrodite i think. not sure which i like the best tho

it's probably that order actually

[digital orbit]

poseidons feels the most unique

[signal aspen]

Zeus Dio Poseidon maybe

[digital orbit]

just surfing feels great

[signal aspen]

Ares is at bottom for sure

[boreal raven]

zeus & poseidon i enjoy the most

[digital orbit]

screw human become blade

[lean timber]

why do ppl like zeus?? you're literally fully vulnerable and it's not even as much damage as posideon

i never understood it

even with jolted

[boreal raven]

zeus bcs dps and poseidon bcs it's fun

[signal aspen]

It is a lot of damage

[boreal raven]

yeah but you can attack with it

[lean timber]

true i suppose

[signal aspen]

And opens smair

[digital orbit]

can we use gifs in this chat?

[boreal raven]

you can link to one

[lean timber]

zeus call as a smair route = broke
zeus cast as a smair route = WOKE

[signal aspen]

Zeus is all about getting more Zeus boons and once you get Zeus boons the call becomes insane

[boreal raven]

yeah

[raw herald]

And global damage

[lean timber]

zeus dash as a smair route = ASCENDED

[raw herald]

I’ve got Zeus aid to tick for 400 before

800 with double strike

[signal aspen]

Zeus dash 🗿

[latent moon]

If you're running a Zeus centered build like on rail or something all the supporting Zeus boons on your atk also transfers over to your call which is a huge boost, esp if you can get smair going

[lean timber]

zeus dash 😍

[raw herald]

Zeus attack for smair Rama 😍

[digital orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-tesla-lightning-gif-12343232

[lean timber]

i guess i never really run zeus dedicated builds but that makes sense

[digital orbit]

zeus

[latent moon]

The only right way to play rama tbh

[lean timber]

i hate you

[signal aspen]

Special only rama is

[raw herald]

Unarguably

[signal aspen]

You messed it up

[lean timber]

[raw herald]

r!pt rama

[digital orbit]

what is that pfp holy

[lean timber]

heroic lv 40 splash dash

as one does

[signal aspen]

Level 5 epic tidal dash 😍

[raw herald]

101 damage 😍

[digital orbit]

anyways omw to unlock arthur

[digital orbit]

lmao

numbers

[raw herald]

Oh we talking numbers?

Here’s a few

4

[lean timber]

if you don't have numerical damage turned on i assume you're a terrible human

[signal aspen]

69 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[raw herald]

🤣

[lean timber]

lol 420!!!

[raw herald]

I didn’t even know you could turn that off

[digital orbit]

ahahahahaha

[boreal raven]

why are the wiki images in .webp format
grr

[lean timber]

i think it's on by default but yeah it's a toggle

[digital orbit]

🙃

[signal aspen]

That one room in non eris eris route where you have to turn those off 😔

[lean timber]

...what

[digital orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-jerma985-sick-puke-gif-19187600

40 lvl divine dash

[lean timber]

jerma my beloved

[lean timber]

3 total damage

[digital orbit]

numbers

actually they deflect so 🤓

[lean timber]

i have GOT to get better at spacing i'm so bad

deflect is top 5 effects in hades

[digital orbit]

whats the 1st

[raw herald]

Me

[lean timber]

i don't think i'm qualified to answer this

i've only ran 32

[boreal raven]

just give your opinion

[lean timber]

my opinion? i think chill is so sick, but not the best

hmm... probably jolt or maybe hangover at high heat?

[raw herald]

They’re all pretty good

[digital orbit]

chill is good with the 10 stack explosion boon

[raw herald]

Weak is probably best at high heat

And chill, hangover, doom

Mark and jolted see more use at low heat

Same with shoals

[gray apex]

Ranking things like that is meaningless

[lean timber]

they're all extremely good. i think knockback is the weakest "effect"

[raw herald]

Just get them all 👍

[digital orbit]

bc u cant do damn to bosses

[lean timber]

mark isn't very "good" in general i don't think. anything past mid heat isn't going to proc reliably because you won't be planning which enemy to hit

[digital orbit]

if u are lucky use mark

[raw herald]

Mark is bonkers with pp and a lot of attacks

[lean timber]

problem with mark is that it jumps between enemies, so you can't get two crits in a row

mark on spread fire zag rail 😍

[gray apex]

You can have it bounce back and forth

Ever seen Hunter’s mark in the heroes fight

[lean timber]

yes of course it's how i got my 10 second rama fight 😈

[gray apex]

It’s how I got my 4s fight

[lean timber]

3s when

[gray apex]

It’s 3.98

Basically 3 seconds

[lean timber]

2.98s when

yeah i love marked personally

it's not something i really intentionally take tho

at heat anyway. low/no heat i take marked a lot

[mint coral]

marked is fun

[lean timber]

so true noob

[raw herald]

I think the invul bubble is more than 3s

[lean timber]

depends on the "timing" does it not

like the time that thanatos takes to drop the heart and the delay it takes for the invuln to drop feel the same

with the same variations

[digital orbit]

can u get the godhood to 100%

[latent moon]

No

[digital orbit]

whats the limit

[latent moon]

God mode caps at like 80% or something

And damage reduction is multiplicative

So if you have max god mode and find 20% damage reduction somewhere it won't equate to 100%

[digital orbit]

k

[latent moon]

Idk what the % will be but yeah

[snow skiff]

exposed 😁👍

[digital orbit]

thx

[digital orbit]

🤓

[digital orbit]

would be cool if it was 100%

[latent moon]

It'd just make the game dummy easy lol

[digital orbit]

I know

hades more like doom

[latent moon]

Aphrodite weak makes enemies deal like 30% less damage already and she has access to normal damage reduction as well

If you want to be a tank you can use that

With god mode

And use aspect of Arthur I suppose

[snow skiff]

just get level 320 bronze skin

for 100% damage reduction

[digital orbit]

patience is the key to success

[latent moon]

Lmao

Big "lvl 40 heroic ddash" energy

[digital orbit]

@raw herald

someone called u

lol

[digital orbit]

the aspect of patience

[latent moon]

Aspect of "should've been tidal dash"

[digital orbit]

lmao

[lean timber]

exposed is a gimmick at best i feel

[digital orbit]

finally

the excalibur is mine

[lean timber]

i don't run things that really have a practical application of it tho. wonder what rmacity and MiKE think tho

[lean timber]

enjoy your free 50 hp

[latent moon]

It's to proc PS duh

[lean timber]

[latent moon]

If you're running Arthur it can be nice for a bigger backstab

If you have ddash or Athena somewhere

Fists can benefit from a bit of backstab damage but it's pretty mediocre I guess

[snow skiff]

exposed just kinda sucks lmao

[digital orbit]

exposed is the synonym of trash :d

wish there were chained blades in this game

[lean timber]

i don't ever notice exposed really

[boreal raven]

is there a way i can modify my save

[lean timber]

in what sense

max everything out?

[boreal raven]

i lost the hidden aspect you get from asterius after my game crashed during a run

i just wanna give myself that since i usually have vanilla minibosses off

[lean timber]

you can just go back to asterius and he'll give it to you. no real need to modify your save for something you can get back in one run

[boreal raven]

yeah but it's obnoxious

[lean timber]

but you may want to talk to the modding server? or maybe #h1-tech-fixes

not sure

[boreal raven]

oh there's a modding server? where's the invite for that

[lean timber]

pinned in #self-promotion

i think

[boreal raven]

yep found it thanks

[lean timber]

sure thing

[boreal raven]

looks like there's a github project made for this https://github.com/zsennenga/hades_save_editor

[digital orbit]

by edit save

u mean like give all weapons for example

[boreal raven]

well in this case i'm giving myself one weapon that i lost to a game crash but you could do that yeah

[digital orbit]

how do we open the secret stashes in keepsakes

[latent moon]

I'm pretty sure if you just do the run again you'll get it

[boreal raven]

oh i'm aware

i just don't want to do the exact same run again

[latent moon]

It'd be easier and faster but aight then

[boreal raven]

ik

[swift inlet]

Hidden aspect from asterius? Is that for malphon or smth

[latent moon]

Yeah

[boreal raven]

yeah

[swift inlet]

I don't have gilgamesh because I don't use fists 😎

[warm nimbus]

pretty based

[lean timber]

they're companions, you get them from maxing friendships with certain people

[digital orbit]

ok thx

[swift inlet]

What's everyone's favorite aspects?

[digital orbit]

arthur

[swift inlet]

Gigachad in the house ^

Why use meg when you can get 3.5k damage in one swing

[boreal raven]

demeter fists bcs merciful end

[swift inlet]

Simply backstab crit

Can't you just run me on anything

Talos trap only run when

[digital orbit]

spamming crystal beams is my passion

[shy fable]

Zeus

[swift inlet]

Zeus seems like the most fun shield but I haven't tried it yet

[boreal raven]

Zeus fun but hard to play efficiently

[latent moon]

Wrong beo is the most fun shield

Big boom good

[digital orbit]

shield is good for starters

[swift inlet]

Lucifer seems more fun for that

[shy fable]

Once you get the hang of it, it's really good. Specials work nicely on it

[digital orbit]

it blocks for eternity

[shy fable]

tbh i dont block as much as i should but hey. each person has fun in different ways

[boreal raven]

I don't like blocking because it means standing still and standing still makes me feel like I'm wasting time

[shy fable]

same

[mint coral]

use the bullrush to keep moving then

[latent moon]

I used to not block a lot and then I did 40 and 50 heat and realized that blocking is, surprise surprise, actually useful a lot of the time

[mint coral]

bullrush will save you from the "block is consistent"

[digital orbit]

standing here

[latent moon]

And then you realize you have charged shot and get hit anyways lmao

[digital orbit]

I hate mosquitos

does the statues have any effects

[signal aspen]

no

[signal aspen]

zeus

[digital orbit]

just smexy skelly statues?

[signal aspen]

yeah

[swift inlet]

Zeus does seem fun but I don't like most shields

Beo feels too one-note

[signal aspen]

one note that insta phases all bosses in one second

[swift inlet]

Unless you don't get mirage shot

I had an epic pommed poseidon cast and took like 3 casts to phase lernie

[signal aspen]

That's...

Good

[latent moon]

Lmfao

I sure do hate it when I insta-phase bosses

[signal aspen]

THREE CASTS IF ONLY I STARTED WITH THREE CAST OMG

[latent moon]

Stygian soul gamers:

[digital orbit]

stygian arthur gamers:

[latent moon]

Boiling blood moment

[swift inlet]

No, three separate dragon rushes with all 3 casts loaded

[lean timber]

hera, rama, demeter

[swift inlet]

Haven't tried rama, but hera is super fun

Feels better than beo 😎

[lean timber]

rama is a good aspect

[swift inlet]

The arrows the size of a truck are super funny

[lean timber]

and piercing

line up a powershot on three tart enemies and watch them all disappear

[warm nimbus]

i only like dem for skelly speedkilling

otherwise its fists=ew

[rustic vale]

Talos

[lean timber]

fists are fun :(

[swift inlet]

Talos seems only good for dragging enemies into traps

[snow skiff]

aspect of poseidon and gilgamesh clears all

[lean timber]

talos is garbo

[swift inlet]

Which is incredibly funny tbf

[snow skiff]

/joke

[swift inlet]

Poseidon on god awful

[snow skiff]

talos has like a couple of really niche cast builds

[swift inlet]

Exit wounds is a scam

[snow skiff]

black out and the flood shot duos

[lean timber]

hera would like to have a word with you

[swift inlet]

Ok fair

[lean timber]

420 extra damage

[swift inlet]

But hera is good

[snow skiff]

and u could argue that achilles is better on curse of drowning

[swift inlet]

I mean on poseidon

Or basically anything else besides hera tbh

[lean timber]

posideon interests me but i don't care for sword. it's on my list tho

want to at least try it

[swift inlet]

Poseidon straight stank what even is the point of it when hera exists

Nemesis is super fun

[warm nimbus]

exit wounds on hera is very meh

[rustic vale]

All swords other than pos > pos

[lean timber]

in what world

[swift inlet]

On god

[warm nimbus]

actually its probably a bit worse than meh

[snow skiff]

hera kills small enemies instantly and usually the casts pop out mid phase during bosses

[swift inlet]

Zag sword >>> pos

[snow skiff]

so exit wounds doesn't add that much

[snow skiff]

rd damage > literally nothing so yeah

[warm nimbus]

^^^ plus it doesnt scale with cast damage

at all

[swift inlet]

Nemesis > Arthur > zag > poseidon

[digital orbit]

ong I hate poison

[swift inlet]

Poison is hell lol

Styx with fists is pain

[snow skiff]

nemesis is like the only usable sword aspect

[digital orbit]

temple of styx just pain

[swift inlet]

Arthur is super fun for oneshotting mfs

[warm nimbus]

true

[snow skiff]

it scales so badly and feels so sticky

[swift inlet]

Simply backstab tiny vermin

[rustic vale]

👍

[lean timber]

zag is best

[digital orbit]

whats a good song to listen while playing hades

[lean timber]

sword

[lean timber]

god of the dead

[rustic vale]

The hades ingame music

[warm nimbus]

nothing the game has its own music

[rustic vale]

hades sound track goes hard

[lean timber]

so good

[swift inlet]

It does

Use eurobeat to speedrun lol

[digital orbit]

the electric guitars is crazy

[lean timber]

i would argue that the sound cues are very helpful as well. i would always recommend headphones with hades

[swift inlet]

^

[lean timber]

em4

[rustic vale]

Listen to the hades sound track at 2x speed for speedrunning

[digital orbit]

in the blood best in my op

[swift inlet]

I use audio cues over visual in half the boss fights lmao

[signal aspen]

gangnam style

[rustic vale]

I use pool cues in boss fights

[swift inlet]

Based

Hit the ball and watch theseus crash his chariot because a ball rolled under his wheels

[snow skiff]

wtf infernal trove and sisyphus is the same track?

[lean timber]

boss fights are all visual for me. sound cues are good for ely so you can hear the exalted trying to re-form among other stuff

[signal aspen]

in boss fights i kinda just kill them

worked so far

[swift inlet]

Beowulf users be like

[rustic vale]

Same

[digital orbit]

would it be good if hades had chained blades?

[swift inlet]

"Just drop a tactical nuke on hades ez"

[digital orbit]

like daggers or like chaos blades

[lean timber]

the nuclear warhead infernal arm is my favorite

[signal aspen]

have you guys played the dlc that adds a nuke to hades

[rustic vale]

If you have a 30 run streak you drop a tactical nuke on your next run

[digital orbit]

shut up and take my money

[rustic vale]

Instawin

[swift inlet]

Eris is in the base game

[rustic vale]

It’s how the 65 heat wr was achieved

[signal aspen]

eris is not a nuke

[rustic vale]

hazard bomb is base game

[swift inlet]

My b

Carpet bombing

[warm nimbus]

so is clockets

[rustic vale]

hazard bomb ≈ nuke

[signal aspen]

in the dlc theseus also gets a nuke

[warm nimbus]

if triple hazard clockets was in the game i think thats definitely a nuke

[slim geyser]

why triple

[swift inlet]

Eris is def a nuke

[signal aspen]

beowulf still better L

[swift inlet]

Isn't there a 2 minute Eris run

[warm nimbus]

so you can spam it 3 times in a row

[signal aspen]

the routed one yeah

[lean timber]

it's a routed run tho

so eh

[signal aspen]

theres also a 2 min beo run

[warm nimbus]

its 2:48

[rustic vale]

No hazard bomb on luci

[warm nimbus]

the eris routed wr, that is

[signal aspen]

also routed wr

and seeded wr

[warm nimbus]

yes that is true

hera seeded wr is 4:49

[signal aspen]

facts

[warm nimbus]

the same run is also the unseeded wr

[lean timber]

lmao hazard lucifer?? hope you have sd on cuz you're dying in every chamber

[snow skiff]

hazard bomb on lucy except the pulses also hit you

[warm nimbus]

nah you havent seen how hazard luci works

[rustic vale]

You only take 1% of the damage of your special so about 4 damage per drop and explode

without any boons

Or additive

[snow skiff]

they should let hazard bomb proc stuff on yourself

like weak or hangover

[warm nimbus]

https://youtu.be/jeht-48KsVs

courtesy of mike

[signal aspen]

who is mike

[warm nimbus]

idk

[rustic vale]

That is

[warm nimbus]

some random guy

[rustic vale]

Heheehehehe

The drop time

It’s like a year

[signal aspen]

hazard luci is pretty pog tho

slighty worse clockets in one hammer

[rustic vale]

Not as good as flurry fire luci

[lean timber]

flurry rama

[warm nimbus]

true

[rustic vale]

Or delta fire luci whoops

[warm nimbus]

imagine triple hazard clockets luci

[snow skiff]

seeking fire clears

[rustic vale]

delta chamber luci

[signal aspen]

cursed slash tho

imagine that on rail

[warm nimbus]

would actually be a good hammer

[rustic vale]

I want cursed slash on guan-yu

[signal aspen]

bro cursed slash luci with heroic attack speed

[snow skiff]

serrated point on eris

[digital orbit]

arthur is cracked holy

[signal aspen]

basically delta

[rustic vale]

serrated point on fist

[signal aspen]

gilga almost that

[signal aspen]

https://youtu.be/u1PTP44Qop4

[snow skiff]

WE NEED THIS SGG

[rustic vale]

Concentrated relentless heroic flourish rama

[snow skiff]

i thought rama couldn't get conc

[rustic vale]

Charged launcher sword

[rustic vale]

That’s why I proposed it

[rustic vale]

Still like this idea better

[signal aspen]

https://youtu.be/sArKnHMbCYc

[lean timber]

this but 120 base damage

[snow skiff]

charged nova

[signal aspen]

https://youtu.be/qTSJ3TY41U4

[lean timber]

more MiKE

[signal aspen]

theres also

[lean timber]

NOW

[signal aspen]

bro i just posted one

[snow skiff]

so rude of sgg to take this away from us

[lean timber]

moar

i need moAR

[rustic vale]

Relentless volley zeus shield

[digital orbit]

nyx is morgana

[signal aspen]

watch this idk https://youtu.be/3iuN6fr2yVM

theres no more

[snow skiff]

no more of what

[digital orbit]

I am zagreus the fastest man alive

[signal aspen]

codex mod mike stuff

[snow skiff]

why do people actualy buy stygian shard

[signal aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/971568558381367376/inf.mp4

to get the infinite damage text

[digital orbit]

holy

olympus my ass this is a different level of god

[lean timber]

do you think he has enough shards

[digital orbit]

nah

[warm nimbus]

who is this from lmao

[signal aspen]

guess

[warm nimbus]

croven?

[digital orbit]

u

[signal aspen]

no

no

[warm nimbus]

mike?

[signal aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/787779476888354816/971566053878530098/Screen_Shot_2022-05-04_at_5.16.07_PM.png

no

[signal aspen]

no

[warm nimbus]

vorime?

[signal aspen]

this should help you

[warm nimbus]

pseudo?

[signal aspen]

yes

[digital orbit]

this is what modding looks like

[signal aspen]

pseudo

[warm nimbus]

ah its pseudo

makes sense lmao

[signal aspen]

pseudo is the only person who would do this

[warm nimbus]

lmao true

[signal aspen]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/523774570394681344/979424462074167376/flurry.mp4

hes the same person who did this

[warm nimbus]

pseudo is also the only person who has tried routed hera

[rustic vale]

Level 10 heroic swift strike

lets go

[digital orbit]

how does he do thi

s

[signal aspen]

mods

he hacks the games code

[lean timber]

routed hera, huh...

[warm nimbus]

yes

[signal aspen]

he also has routed chiron 64

[digital orbit]

are they free

[warm nimbus]

routed hera

[signal aspen]

no

[warm nimbus]

seriously lmao

[lean timber]

that kind of sounds fun...

[rustic vale]

Peak zag sword content

[digital orbit]

will I give money for that amount of craziness

hell yeah

[signal aspen]

https://youtu.be/12c6o7wXwDA

[warm nimbus]

oh so thats what that video is about

[signal aspen]

what did you think it was

[warm nimbus]

idk\

[digital orbit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/552257673874243585/976931361048907806/aesthetic-skull.gif

[rustic vale]

Truely gaming

[warm nimbus]

also very speedy

how does that compare to other aspects at 64

[signal aspen]

might be wr

[rustic vale]

Zag sword has to be the fastest 64 wr

[digital orbit]

how do people finish the game in full pact of punishment

can smell the sweatiness

[warm nimbus]

they dont

[rustic vale]

At least 15% faster then the second fastest one

[signal aspen]

just kill things

[digital orbit]

true

[signal aspen]

angel literally 1 second away from beating it 🗿

[warm nimbus]

didnt finish the game though smh

[signal aspen]

zagcry

[warm nimbus]

that run was so sad

just a c34 fountain away

[signal aspen]

if i was playing i wouldve beaten it

[warm nimbus]

true

[rustic vale]

If I was playing it would be a win

definitely

[lean timber]

wait fr 💔

[rustic vale]

Demeter, talos, eris, or beowulf

[magic wave]

Ares-Cast build is broken

[rustic vale]

Not really broken compared to other builds

[magic wave]

Well, using some other blessings with it makes Hades and other bosses disappear

[rustic vale]

Doesn’t make them disappear as fast as other builds even then

I know what you mean but

[lean timber]

it's cool, but the problem with it is that you need to invest in it a lot to make it comparable to the other builds, so you can't get as many hearts, poms, etc.

unfortunate but true

[magic wave]

btw, what's the record of hp in "Hades"?

[rustic vale]

Max hp?

[magic wave]

Just interested

[magic wave]

yea

[rustic vale]

Idk probably unrecorded somewhere

[lean timber]

highest ever? i dunno, but if you get over 400hp in a run, you get a special clear message when you finish

[signal aspen]

haelian got around 900

[rustic vale]

Neat

[lean timber]

of course haelian did lol

afk time

[magic wave]

Tried to search for some runs, his vid appeared

[signal aspen]

every hades player ever

[magic wave]

my personal max is around 530

Or something like that

[digital orbit]

hey olympus can I get an ''angel boon''

[lean timber]

an angel boon

[digital orbit]

ansi bala vida ansi bala vida

who

the guy in the blue shirt he is being very aggressive

[lean timber]

blue shirt guy

[digital orbit]

you go enjoy the view

hey blue shirt

I got a bullet for u

[signal aspen]

who is blue shirt

[digital orbit]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/hpGqP-jt42w

this is off topic but explains the thing

this guy just jokes with dumb tiktok trends

[lean timber]

perhaps not the best time to post that considering the fbi is taking any and all threats to their domain pretty seriously because of what's going down at mar-a-lago

[latent yacht]

is there a limit to how much nectar you can give per run? i have zeus at 4 hearts and can't gift him nectar even though i have 2 on me

[signal aspen]

you can gift somebody once per run

[magic wave]

no

[magic wave]

there may be some restrictions that forbid you from doing that

[lean timber]

yeah it's the once per run thing that's getting you

if you really want to focus gifts/story progression, give gifts then kill yourself and find them again next run

quickest way to do it

(giving up resets your progress so don't do that)

[latent yacht]

i prefer to do full runs to also focus on stuff like prophecies

getting all the boons etc.

i'm doing runs rn where i just pick up random stuff i didn't use before to get all the boons i haven't got yet

[latent moon]

Prophecy gaming

[lean timber]

why does fully loaded have a pp prereq

that's kind of silly imo

[rustic vale]

With just demeter, beowulf and eris left for shackle runs… idk why but I feel like these are all aspects I dread using with shackle

[lean timber]

you did hera shackle?

[rustic vale]

#h1-victory-boasting message

A while back

Like a week ago

[rustic vale]

Yes

Now I’m c7 with eris and bouldy has given me

+5% obols

Holy

[lean timber]

that makes me very upset. bouldy makes me feel better tho

[rustic vale]

I have level 2 common drunken dash and epic arte aid

and a chaos flourish and cluster bomb

So it’s going well

[lean timber]

[rustic vale]

oooh support fire

Nice

That’ll offset UC

[lean timber]

lol love grabbing random boons and thinking "yes, uc fodder let's go"

[rustic vale]

Hmm

Just got 132 obols from a trove (w/out adding bouldy +5%)

So

[latent moon]

Bouldy carry time

[warm nimbus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/845087923779141682/1008928802061176922/unknown.png?width=1191&height=670 omg its been so long