not better than the other options
#h1-discussion
signal aspen
steep bobcat
am i the only one who really cant get how to play with a controller?
it feels nice but at the same time im so used to keyboard and mouse
that it feels like im learning a new game
signal aspen
if i picked up a controller to play hades i probably wouldnt get it either
its what happens when you play with keyboard for a while
hot ether
Ive got the hidden aspect for both the sword and the spear, is unlocking the rest like unlocking the sword one?
gray apex
Switching between controller and kbm is pretty rough
warm nimbus
c34 patty gaming
short glen
You need to meet various criteria but pretty similar
hot ether
schweet thats gonn be a cake walk then lol
gray apex
I still struggle to go back and forth between them
hot ether
im fine with that i mean the base requirment
acoustic bolt
Oh so does it work on Hades?
warm nimbus
Oh so does it work on Hades?
im not sure
signal aspen
probably doesnt
warm nimbus
if it did you would need a lot of ichors
signal aspen
too much health
warm nimbus
like a lot
acoustic bolt
Ichors? The speed thing?
signal aspen
the thing is it doesnt work if you have twin or triple shot
and it might not work with point blank and perfect shot either
so your damage wont be enough
signal aspen
Ichors? The speed thing?
yeah
combine that with hyper sprint and rush delivery and you get a lot of damage
warm nimbus
yeah move speed is multiplicative lol
so 2 ichors and hyper sprint and epic rd is +188% global damage
short glen
It's also zoom
patent mesa
targeting is so good on lucy
honestly targeting is sneakily one of the best and most underrated hammers
signal aspen
how is it underrated
patent mesa
idk people don't talk about it much compared to hazard clockets and triple
but I love it
signal aspen
šæ
native sorrel
will we ever get new weapons
mint coral
Nah
lean timber
unlikely
wicked tendon
will we ever get new weapons
A portal gun mod /s
small creek
Fangamer finally shipped my order!
small creek
The No Escape Shirt and Cerb plush
native sorrel
A portal gun mod /s
hell yeah
gusty sluice
Finally made it to the first "ending" last night at 70 runs. I gotta' say, been a fan since Bastion released, and the team at Supergiant never fails to make me cry when credits roll. And I mean never. Can't wait to see what's in store for a full complete!
...Probably more tears.
acoustic bolt
when you fight charon is the new wexit random or is it the same one you would have had anyway
mint coral
random
acoustic bolt
i just used a dd so i could take a chaos gate
signal aspen
gamer strats
acoustic bolt
does flurry slash ruin double edge or does it end up doing 2 dash strike hits nad 1 regular
signal aspen
it ruins it
acoustic bolt
well that sucks
warm nimbus
c1 hammer c2 poseidon c4 artemis on beo lol
icy knoll
nice
signal aspen
gets ely'd
lean timber
not bad
patent mesa
I would rather take dashing over dread
dread literally further downgrades special if you misinput it
like wtf
signal aspen
Facts
lean timber
wait what is cshot again? charge shot? bull rush fires shot with 80 base?
signal aspen
But we all know charged flight best hammer
signal aspen
What charged flight?
lean timber
no cshot
signal aspen
Nothing is wrong with it
It's the best hammer for speedrunning
Cus it charges fast
And deals a lot of damage
Also has range
Only falls off at like 50 heat em4
lean timber
ok. just the way it was said made it seem like it was a bad call
i love cshot personally one of my favorite hammers in the game
limpid nexus
i won my first run today
signal aspen
Poggers
lean timber
let's go what weapon
latent moon
very nice
signal aspen
Congrudsulatoons
limpid nexus
ā
signal aspen
Best spear
patent mesa
i won my first run today<:LETSGOOO:807039771632730125>
did you know you have rights?
lean timber
constitution says ya do.
limpid nexus
constitution says ya do.
TRUE
patent mesa
better recall spear
limpid nexus
š
signal aspen
btw i have cshot set as guaranteed first hammer lol
????????
warm nimbus
i literally couldnt choose something else at that point if i wanted
signal aspen
How???????
warm nimbus
How???????
modded gaming
lean timber
so cheating
signal aspen
Literally a fancy way of saying cheating
lean timber
modded gaming is such a huge L
the rng is part of the game
if i can't completely brutalize a run by being offered garbage upgrades i don't want to play the run
patent mesa
5 sack is part of the game
patent mesa
bruh
signal aspen
5 sack is part of the game
Idk if you know this but my pb was a 2 sack but I chose to do the other tunnels
lean timber
explains my favorite choices well actually
patent mesa
Idk if you know this but my pb was a 2 sack but I chose to do the other tunnels
you should be cast into the river styx
lean timber
you should lose death defiance... NOW!!
warm nimbus
yeah the sack rng is probably my lesast favorite part of the vanilla game
i dont even know how they decided that was a good idea
i hated it even when i wasnt trying to do speed/heat
signal aspen
Skill issue honestly
lean timber
it's fun!! you guys don't think that's kind of fun to not know when you're gonna get it?
limpid nexus
skill issue true
lean timber
the suspense? the mystery?
limpid nexus
rng is the best part of the game honestly
limpid nexus
i love losing a perfect run because of a funy number did not go the way i wanted it to go
limpid nexus
i love losing a perfect run because of a funy number did not go the way i wanted...
its fun
signal aspen
I love sack
lean timber
raw herald
i like sack mechanic
patent mesa
i dont even know how they decided that was a good idea
it's good for casual player experience I think
raw herald
makes styx feel exciting instead of a preparation for dad
patent mesa
but yeah every level of TD should drop max sack by one to balance it out with sweat gameplay
limpid nexus
You know you can just use Achilles spear to teleport behind Cerberus right
is this a fr moment
signal aspen
No
patent mesa
lol I wish
signal aspen
But you can try
limpid nexus
or a ong moment
latent moon
new speed tech 
limpid nexus
what is the "worst" weapon for people with skill issues asking for a friend of course
warm nimbus
but yeah every level of TD should drop max sack by one to balance it out with sw...
not a bad idea tbh
warm nimbus
what is the "worst" weapon for people with skill issues asking for a friend of c...
probably sword
patent mesa
what is the "worst" weapon for people with skill issues asking for a friend of c...
sword fists and spear are generally considered the bottom 3
latent moon
melee weapons require a lot of precision lol
warm nimbus
nem is really good but its hard if youre just starting out
signal aspen
what is the "worst" weapon for people with skill issues asking for a friend of c...
Fists
latent moon
i feel like bow is the worst
bow is good, takes a lot of time to learn
limpid nexus
bow feels so slow
latent moon
learning to nailing perfect shots take time to learn
warm nimbus
bow feels so slow
you should be dash striking with it
latent moon
bow feels so slow
dash strike on bow only
warm nimbus
it charges it way faster
patent mesa
standing strike explosive shot on rama only
signal aspen
Standing strike explosive twin gaming
latent moon
takes 5 centuries to load for perfect shot lmao
patent mesa
I like on rama
signal aspen
Very nice on the other bows
warm nimbus
yeah its awful on rama
signal aspen
I like on rama
Your name is literally no special Zeus shield your opinion does not matter
warm nimbus
^^
patent mesa
Your name is literally no special Zeus shield your opinion does not matter
based
based as in I'm based
latent moon
they do have a point but no special zeus shield is really funny and based
signal aspen
I am going to slap both of you
limpid nexus
btw how do you unlock the secret aspects on the wesapons
signal aspen
I will get amir to ban both of you so you will never play Hades again
signal aspen
btw how do you unlock the secret aspects on the wesapons
Pinned in #h1-story-discussion
limpid nexus
ah ok
latent moon
I am going to slap both of you
honestly valid
signal aspen
First of many
Imagine getting cast bugged and then losing like 3 seconds because of it
And then sub 7 by 0.4 seconds
At 32 heat
Wouldn't that be crazy
latent moon
wait what cast bug
signal aspen
Makes it so you can't interact with anything until you load your cast
Only works on beo and hera
latent moon
oh weird
warm nimbus
yeah its really annoying
snow skiff
Lol
warm nimbus
c1 hammer c2 poseidon c4 artemis on beo lol
c1 pos c2 arty c3 hammer
this is quite possibly the best start to a run ive ever had
snow skiff
Can't wait for the throw
warm nimbus
Can't wait for the throw
the throw was tis 
actually nvm
that was surprisingly fast
very gamer tart leave
braid in well wtf
HOLY ASPHO LEAVE WTF
wtf
holy wtf
4:52 ely leave
this is actually sub 6able
snow skiff
Vracked
warm nimbus
i did not sub 6
gray apex
4:52 is no easy sub6
warm nimbus
yeah idk wtf i was saying
warm nimbus
No longer gonna be a clockets addict after this
i do not believe i am anymore
i like leaving tart
broken nacelle
yo
I just realized aphrodite's sprite is naked bruh
how did I not realize this b4
polar marsh
meager lava
how lucky does one have to be to get the dialogue to unlock guan yu from achilles?
patent mesa
once dialogue is available, not much luck
you can keep killing yourself to speed through any other dialogue in his pool if you want
meager lava
I did just that xD took a bit though
raw herald
No longer gonna be a clockets addict after this
Lmao I cannot agree with this more
Beo feels like cheating
Once you get used to it
meager lava
is it me or is the only way to farm titan blood to beat the game over and over again...
meager lava
I don't even know what ambrosia is used for
mint coral
Otherwise you can do trades at the lounge/see prophecies
mint coral
I don't even know what ambrosia is used for
Replaces nectar ince you are deep in a relationship basically
meager lava
are those relationships used to unlock any items?
mint coral
Some of them yeah
mint coral
Yeah trading a few early game is fine
weak spade
Hello! Where can I buy Hades without being tied to a particular platform like Steam/Epic games and still receive updates?
elder pine
shy fable
Hello! Where can I buy Hades without being tied to a particular platform like St...
Well, there isn't any other platform available. Unless you play on a select console like PS4/PS5 or Xbox One for example.
It is also available on the Switch
weak spade
Did Supergiant ever considered implementing an in game update system, something like Factorio is doing?
shy fable
I believe it was planned probably, but it was one of the first offered games on the newly-announced ( back in 2018 ) Epic Games Store. so
there isn't any other way, really.
weak spade
Is there any platform where community can vote for ideas or future improvments?
restive cave
is there a way to skip the "cause of death" narration after a win?
shy fable
Is there any platform where community can vote for ideas or future improvments?
there was one i believe, back in the Early Access era, but not anymore
teal pasture
Hello!! Anyone knows if in UK will restock the switch physical ed?? I am trying to buy but almost impossible
weak spade
Would you be willing to ask your colleagues about bringing the suggestion platform back? If you have time and want to do that, of course
shy fable
i dont work at supergiant homie i just play hades and know its development story
weak spade
Oh, I think the color of your name confused me, I am sorry
shy fable
for now, we can maybe hope that someday itll come back, but with the fact the game is fully released, probably not
nah its chill dont worry, you can get it at #bot-commands
coral egret
I'm so bad at making decisions sometimes.. As Chiron bow (special aimbot) you prefer starting with :
1ļøā£ Piercing volley (your special pierces foes and deal +400% damage to armor)
2ļøā£ Concentrated Volley (your special deals +3 damage for each consecutive hit to a foe)
hollow path
I'm so bad at making decisions sometimes.. As Chiron bow (special aimbot) you pr...
i'd wanna get piercing for sure vs shields and especially theseus
coral egret
i'd wanna get piercing for sure vs shields and especially theseus
do piercing make it go trough theseus shield ?
hollow path
i think so i haven't played chiron in a long while
i can confirm because other weapon's piercing can go through shields
coral egret
Oh ok i'm gonna try thx
void vigil
Is there any platform where community can vote for ideas or future improvments?
#h1-discussion message
you might want to read this message regarding future content
raw herald
I'm so bad at making decisions sometimes.. As Chiron bow (special aimbot) you pr...
Concentrated is way better
It doubles the base damage of your special at Chiron level 5
weak spade
https://discord.com/channels/456889434672201729/520429929721233464/9802994205517...
Thank you
rustic vale
I'm so bad at making decisions sometimes.. As Chiron bow (special aimbot) you pr...
Iād want concentrated
warm nimbus
I'm so bad at making decisions sometimes.. As Chiron bow (special aimbot) you pr...
yeah concentrated is better (and then relentless as second hammer)
piercing as second hanmer is fine but i think it reduces the range of the special
devout terrace
concentrated is way better
warm nimbus
yeah exactly
coral egret
ok thanks for u answers i took concentrated
mint coral
@acoustic bolt i think flood flare doesnt proc sea storm cuz it barely knockbacks?
Sea storm will also not proc on the skull crushers for example
acoustic bolt
some things care about literally knocking back and some things just say "triggered by things that CAN knockback"
that's kind of dumb
especially since it's so hard to knockback bosses. does that mean sea storm doesn't trigger on bosses unless you're like pos special chiron?
i'm pretty sure it does trigger so that's not very consistent
raw herald
Sea storm triggers off the attack though
mint coral
Ik it procs on bullrush too
raw herald
Itās jank
mint coral
Or just attack?
raw herald
Both I think
warm nimbus
yeah on both
snow skiff
Where can i find hades bug tracker thing
mint coral
Bad news moment
raw herald
Yeah basically a worse version of common rd
warm nimbus
yeah
signal aspen
good news
warm nimbus
yep
raw herald
And doesnāt scale with ichors
mint coral
But rd can stack with boiling
snow skiff
Some of these r so strange
warm nimbus
yeah lmao
astral yacht
whoa, didn't know piercing penetrates shields
broken nacelle
how do I unlock Demeter?
latent moon
reach the surface once, doesn't matter if you beat the boss or not
copper adder
Every time I think I got to the end of this game
They chuck another thing in front of me
It just never ends, good thing I have a floating green lady to come back to lol
wind tendon
Meg just invited me to a ātutoring sessionā, previously she wanted me to do some āparchment workā. Than never invites Zag to anything, why is my rng anti-ThanZag :~
This is my 1st save on the PS5 (romanced Than 1st); on my Switch Meg got the heart bubble some 3 times and Than just once (romanced Meg 1st). š š
brisk trail
How good are the secret aspects?
I only recently unlocked Varatha's and I can't say I'm a huge fan
warm nimbus
some are good some are bad
latent moon
guan yu takes time getting used to
warm nimbus
id say it goes shield>bow>rail>spear>>sword>>fists
latent moon
yeah
brisk trail
Alright sounds balanced
I've always liked the shield I'm happy it has the best one lol
But I also can't get away from Varatha's brainrot
latent moon
hidden shield is a completely different playstyle than any of the shields lol
short glen
I'd say shield>sword>>fist>everything else tbh. Then again I don't like bow spear or rail
I prefer hidden sword to hidden shield but hidden shield is objectively superior
brisk trail
My three favorites since beating the game have been spear sword shield
Spear because fnuuy brainrot and sword because nemesis aspect fits my playstyle immensely and shield bcause funny block
short glen
I'll say you need to think a little different for hidden sword. Think of it more as ||an aoe weapon with a range larger than it looks||
Like I hit multiple hydra heads at the same time and with a good attack boon 1 or 2hko them
latent moon
all the hidden weapons except like rail and fists are all quite different than the original lol
short glen
Strat for hidden sword is get aphro attack
latent moon
I just came to ask because I hidden spears atk spd is abysmal
you generally just get aphro special and special spam to victory
short glen
I just came to ask because I hidden spears atk spd is abysmal
Yeah that's kinda the thing with the hidden aspects
latent moon
dont use the spin unless you get quick spin
latent moon
yeah
short glen
Except rail and maybe bow idk I don't use it they're all slower attacking
warm nimbus
you want to get charged skewer for the special
brisk trail
dont use the spin unless you get quick spin
I like using Hades aspect and getting quick spin + massive spin and going Dionysus atk and spam
Meta knight mode
latent moon
yeah
meager lava
guess I never noticed until the slow arthur q
queen karma
Privileged status or Family favourite?
signal aspen
family favourite
latent moon
family favorite 99% of the time
queen karma
And what about Dark Foresight or Olympian Favoe?
rustic vale
Dark foresight
acoustic bolt
Privileged status or Family favourite?
queen karma
Ok, thanks for the help
remote lily
after almost 2 years, Hades still is one of most popular games played on Steam Deck, interesting
Twitter
static harbor
honestly we can say all we want about Theseus but his VA is so good
stole a few cackles out of me even though I hate Theseus lol
signal aspen
theseus is cool
shy fable
i have a love/hate relationship with theseus
patent mesa
theseus is NOT cool
he was at like 1hp and ended my 53 heat attempt
I wanted to cry
warm nimbus
https://twitter.com/OnDeck/status/1554912282387173376?s=20&t=3vMh1EDYlhx2VkmFtgJ...
that is actually kind of surprising given game consumption cycles nowadays
static harbor
I do feel bad for him sometime but mainly hate him because he's one of those men in myths that was absolutely disgusting
signal aspen
he was at like 1hp and ended my 53 heat attempt
L
remote lily
that is actually kind of surprising given game consumption cycles nowadays
Steam Deck is still portable machine and rogue-likes are very popular games on it
you know, 20-30min gameplay loop
warm nimbus
ah true
meager lava
I just found out you can dash mid q with arthur
I also found out you can dash with dash nova q. that's some insane distance to cover xD
trail citrus
yo
why da hell does the aspect of gilgamesh say that it maims foes, but foes don't get maimed?
Is ir based on some chance not told on the description or what?
patent mesa
nope
it's specifically on dash-upper
which is kinda clunky and easy to screw up
practice on skelly
signal aspen
Dw about it maim sucks
trail citrus
ight, wrong. Attack. My ba
signal aspen
Damage to yourself is damage too
trail citrus
Damage to yourself is damage too
I just gotta get good then
latent moon
simply do not get hit
signal aspen
Hard to do with Gilgamesh and it's -30% iframes
latent moon
50% more damage to you is a lot lmao
i guess with ruthless reflect you have a 50% chance of not getting hit but still not great lol
patent mesa
this is why the best gilga build is plume
warm nimbus
latent moon
based
trail citrus
Just need to not get hit. That's a given as I get better and learn patterns and stuff. Not so much in the chaos of a mob of armored enemies with the speed benefit
plume?
"angry old man noises"
signal aspen
Plume
patent mesa
that's a joke don't use lambent plume
trail citrus
oh, the keepsake
sounds good. It may rely a bit too much on getting the bad news thing
signal aspen
trail citrus
what oes that mean?
slim geyser
warm nimbus
safe tinsel
lean timber
potent mason
latent moon
trail citrus
oida
upbeat orchid
Hello
I'm rather new to the sever
And kinda the game as well
Can anyone tell me, how does one get the rare fish?
lean timber
rare fish are achieved by fishing and reacting to the bobber dropping within 20 frames (i think)
so 330 ms
lean timber
either way it's a quick reaction
if you do it quick enough it will say "perfect catch!" up top
lean timber
you either get a "perfect catch!" if you do it within 20f or a "catch!" if you're too slow
a perfect catch gives a 50% chance of a rare fish
lean timber
it shouldn't be a terribly hard feat. you can't fish unless the room is clear so you can focus completely on your timing. when the bobber dips and the screen flashes, that's your cue
upbeat orchid
It's just that
Hades is my first ever non-mobile game
Which requires skills
I'm... Still not used to it
Anyway quick question, at what point would it be considered high heat?
lean timber
luckily hades has a low skill floor... definitely not the hardest game
do u use keyboard + mouse or controller?
upbeat orchid
Switch
gray apex
Anyway quick question, at what point would it be considered high heat?
Usually 32 heat is the gateway to high heat, mainly because itās the last skelly statue
upbeat orchid
Usually 32 heat is the gateway to high heat, mainly because itās the last skelly...
okay (faintly)
lean timber
i use switch as well. the smaller button give and take. they can be very quick to hit since they're so close together, but you can also miss them easier
yeah i would say 32 is when it starts getting especially spicy as well because the pacts start interacting with one another and making it harder
upbeat orchid
I see
I have a long way to go
Anyway, what would be your favourite weapon/build?
lean timber
the bow is my favorite
upbeat orchid
I like Rama with Zuse, or Hera with Artemis
upbeat orchid
the bow is my favorite
Same!
gray apex
Probably some Beowulf memery
signal aspen
Shield gang
lean timber
rama is very fun. shield is also very good
upbeat orchid
Rama is very ful with Zuse.
signal aspen
Love zuse
lean timber
zoos
chrome wharf
I like Rama with Zuse, or Hera with Artemis
Try Aphrodite cast with Hera 
restive cave
i like dio cast on hera, cheeks get clappin
light ember
That 900% armor breaker ability is just an outright lie lol
light ember
Yeah
rustic vale
It says it only works on dash strikes doesnāt it
warm nimbus
yep
rustic vale
Itās an outright truth idk what they were talking about
lean timber
what's it on?
rustic vale
They were talking about breaching cross I presume
lean timber
what's it on
rustic vale
Fists
still egret
Just finished another run and this time my death was literally getting smacked by a hoe ala sideshow bob lmao
lean timber
i've purchased every item from the contractors... except the EM4 music
because i can't yet
warm nimbus
you know what time it is
wise dune
I finally beat hades š
I got my steam deck the same day I got pretty sick
so I kind of just been playing that + a few other games
patent mesa
you know what time it is
flourishless zeus time
latent moon
Based
wise dune
and yes I am a lazy scrub that took 2 years to actually beat it
latent moon
Gamer
lean timber
flourishless zeus time
i think flourishless chaos shield is unarguably more garbage lol
but yes i suppose it is that time... i do have a weapon that is waiting for 10 heat to claim a bounty right this moment in fact...
it is beo gaming time
tomorrow
latent moon
Based beo
lean timber
i have explosive shot and point-blank shot on rama. do not like explosive gonna spin the wheel
i got trolled epic style.
never mind this is
disgusting
lone kernel
Explosive on rama too slow big sadge
simple gull
Btw what does seeded/unseeded mean exactly? I'm kind of a beginner still and I read nobody ever cleared 64 heat unseeded(?)
gray apex
Btw what does seeded/unseeded mean exactly? I'm kind of a beginner still and I r...
Seeded means you have prior knowledge of what's in the run
Unseeded is the opposite
To prove that a run is unseeded you must show a death beforehand
simple gull
Knowledge what's in as in you can know beforehand which gods will show up etc?
gray apex
Yes
simple gull
I see, that's interesting thanks
cursive ingot
What hammers are good for chaos shield with Aphrodite attack and dionysis special?
Explosive return?
patent mesa
What hammers are good for chaos shield with Aphrodite attack and dionysis specia...
yeah that's the main one
gray apex
Charged is another good one
cursive ingot
Huh I think I like this build better than aeres special
lunar wing
guys after doing a run with cursed slash i now suck at each run
lean timber
cursed slash is pretty bad
gray apex
They are done with the game
high island
Check the pins here. There's a message on that. 
hollow path
do you guys think greatest reflex works better on lucifer?
wide marsh
Just got bullied by Hades after learning he had a second phase, lol.
wide marsh
Unfortunately, yes. Sorry if I just spoiled it for you
static swallow
don't worry about it man
So his health goes all the way down then he starts a second phase?
wide marsh
So his health goes all the way down then he starts a second phase?
More or less
static swallow
dang, I've got a long way to go still then
pulsar hemlock
I'm guessing he still had a DD from back in the day
wide marsh
Me too, that took a lot of work and rng to get to
pulsar hemlock
Or night
static swallow
DD?
pulsar hemlock
Death Defiance
static swallow
ahh gotcha
wide marsh
Death Defiance
You mean there may be a third phase?
static swallow
rng?
wide marsh
pulsar hemlock
You mean there may be a third phase?
š
pulsar hemlock
Eh, soon it'll be a game of skill
static swallow
sometimes I have a terrible run to get to the end with hardly any life
pulsar hemlock
https://tenor.com/view/homer-simpson-levitating-homer-simpson-levitating-homer-s...
Want me to tell you, though?
pulsar hemlock
Now you just gotta beat him every time
wide marsh
I can now pretty much get to Hades every time
I can't, lol. Theseus' shield hurts me man
pulsar hemlock
Gonna go with the sword next, don't know what to go for, though
Been too long since I've played
And the community doesn't seem as lively as it used to :I
wide marsh
Sword is easily my main, but I'm trying to learn the spear
pulsar hemlock
I like fists and bow
wide marsh
Speaking of which, Bow must be annoying for Theseus
static swallow
I thought sword was the worst weapon
wide marsh
I thought sword was the worst weapon
Sword is goated bro
pulsar hemlock
Why?
static swallow
I just read it wasn't great on various guides
pulsar hemlock
The bow can be used everywhere, lol
wide marsh
Great crowd control, decent damage, potential life steal
static swallow
life steal?
pulsar hemlock
Sword is decent, has some speed
signal aspen
I just read it wasn't great on various guides
What guides were those
pulsar hemlock
I like speed
wide marsh
life steal?
Daedalus hammer gives that affect for a sacrifice of I think, 60% health
wide marsh
I like speed
Speed gang
pulsar hemlock
Also, don't pick weapons based on guides, but what works best for you. Every weapon is usable in the game
signal aspen
Cursed slash kinda sucks but can be helpful for new players
static swallow
signal aspen
Yeah don't trust guides like these
wide marsh
Cursed slash kinda sucks but can be helpful for new players
I just like lifesteal in any game, helps a ton in survivability
signal aspen
Yeah it's very comfy
static swallow
Is there any logic in what booms the god offers you?
pulsar hemlock
Eh, seems like a useless guide to me
static swallow
i.e. I really like the dash boon that reflects but it hardly ever comes up
pulsar hemlock
Is there any logic in what booms the god offers you?
Pretty sure it's random.
pulsar hemlock
i.e. I really like the dash boon that reflects but it hardly ever comes up
Find Athena.
static swallow
ok thanks
signal aspen
The game tries to fill your core boons (attack special cast and dash) so filling those up will increase the chances of finding a boon you want
static swallow
How do you "find" Athena?
wide marsh
I personally, like Dionysus' boons
wide marsh
That's the best way to secure her boon
pulsar hemlock
How do you "find" Athena?
Try keepsake, or just look around till you find her. The game is based on RNG.
wide marsh
The boon symbol is a target of sorts
static swallow
Thanks yea I know about the keepsake stuff
So you guys think the sword is good then?
signal aspen
Yeah it's good
static swallow
is there a particular aspect which is rated as the best?
wide marsh
I like poseidon's
pulsar hemlock
Don't think so?
wide marsh
Although I haven't gotten too far into the aspects yet
pulsar hemlock
They're all usable, again, find what works best for you
static swallow
It just feels like I'm starting to grind now
and that's when I usually quit a game
light ember
If I feel like a run is absolutely cursed should I give up on it
static swallow
Grinding is now a mechanic in every single game these days
signal aspen
If I feel like a run is absolutely cursed should I give up on it
Play it out for practice
static swallow
Developers want to make games last longer than they should so add grinding mechanics
MMO's are by far the worst
pulsar hemlock
You need to practice on the game no matter how good a weapon is, rofl
static swallow
I don't practise, I just play it's a game not a sport
signal aspen
If you dont practice then how are you gonna break world records?
static swallow
lol
pulsar hemlock
A game can be a sport
static swallow
of course it can, anything can be a sport
pulsar hemlock
And games can need practice, and Hades is one of those games
lean timber
essentially, if you "want" to have access to a god's pool of boons, the best way is to take any boon from them - this will cause them to enter your pool and they will (usually) come up again later, multiple times. of course, using a keepsake is a great way to do that, but you can always try to enter a shop and roll your luck to find them in there
static swallow
cool man cool
lean timber
if you go for a duo, the first two keepsakes you get should be the ones belonging to the gods you need of course. in general it's good to switch god keepsakes between realms every time because it guarantees you will see the god you choose if you swap - if you keep one equipped, all it will do is boost that god's rarities, not force anything
tl:dr it's usually a good idea to switch so you can force something rather than leaving it up to rng
static swallow
nice 1 good advice
light ember
Is it possible to beat the game through and through on first escape attempt of a save. I actually made it all the way to minos and theseus but they whooped my ass
signal aspen
yes
light ember
By possible I mean reliably replicatable with skill
signal aspen
yes
warm nimbus
do you guys think greatest reflex works better on lucifer?
tbh it doesnt do very much since you cant dash strike on luci but it can be helpful in some scenarios. +dashes is often better than other hermes garbage like flurry cast, swift strike, etc
deft canyon
Always when I think "I'm nearly maxed out" the game comes says no and throws me way more upgrades in my Favs.
I love it
tall holly
just grind to 360 titan blood and max out all the aspects
runic kestrel
Hi, is SuperGiant devs here? I think I found one of the causes of Save Data Cannot be updated bug
signal aspen
yeah im here
runic kestrel
2022-08-04 22:29:39 [RenderThread ] rendercommands.cpp:625 INFO| Resetting RenderMesh Caches. ResetRequest: 1, BufferMaxLoad: 0.48
...
2022-08-04 22:30:29 [MainThread ] progressmanager.cpp:936 INFO| Lua::Save() : 0.189044 s
2022-08-04 22:30:29 [MainThread ] progressmanager.cpp:948 ERR| Uncompressed lua state 2 exceeded max allowable 9388032
My save file size is around 1.5-1.7 MB
pulsar hemlock
Maybe #h1-tech-fixes / #h1-tech-support ?
light ember
My first clear was 23 minutes and 2000 darkness spent. I think it took me 9 attempts or so. It that okay
light ember
Hades was actually surpringly easy. Just hid behind a pillar to regain health when low and burned him down
warm nimbus
My first clear was 23 minutes and 2000 darkness spent. I think it took me 9 atte...
thats really good
23 minutes and 9 attempts for a first clear is insane
light ember
That makes me feel good :)
warm nimbus
i think thats the best ive ever seen lol
hollow path
Hades was actually surpringly easy. Just hid behind a pillar to regain health wh...
are you talking about stubborn roots?
raw nimbus
You need to practice on the game no matter how good a weapon is, rofl
wrong
hazard railgun exists
šæ
short glen
And Beowulf
rustic vale
Who needs skill when rng is on your side /s
raw nimbus
Who needs skill when rng is on your side /s
true
pulsar hemlock
Lol, you can't rely solely on rng to beat Hades ^^'
lean timber
erm
rustic vale
Lol, you can't rely solely on rng to beat Hades ^^'
Trippy flare highroll exists
raw nimbus
honestly
rustic vale
itās called health bar gone
pulsar hemlock
I don't care, but okay.
raw nimbus
ever since I first got hazard rail I kept using that and just adding on heat
and farming bounties
šæ
rustic vale
trippy flare highroll beowulf kinda just removes the healthbar
light ember
Just borrowed 300 from charon... am I about to die
rustic vale
Depends if youāve fought charon before and how early in the run it is
light ember
Very early. Never fought
rustic vale
Since the earlier you kill charon the longer you have his shop card
rustic vale
does charon get affected by extreme measures?
Nope
unfortunately
Iād say very likely to die since you wouldnāt know his moveset yet and donāt have the boons and hammers to kill him quick
rustic vale
I'd be pretty mad too if someone decided to steal from me
Itās borrowing, heās getting it back when I buy from his shop anyways
raw nimbus
Itās borrowing, heās getting it back when I buy from his shop anyways
then you take the + cost in the pact and you can't buy anything anyway
light ember
Well now I know better lol
rustic vale
~~then you take the + cost in the pact and you can't buy anything anyway~~
Thatās why you kill charon, so you can get the card and lower the prices enough to buy things
/s
lean timber
I don't care, but okay.
asks question, gets response, doesn't care
light ember
I got the legendary poseidon boon for fishing at the start too... was hoping go catch a lot ;_;
lean timber
truly the epitome of philosophy
rustic vale
Well now I know better lol
Honestly Iād fight him as often as possible if I was in your shoes to learn the moveset as soon as possible
light ember
I wanted to fish
raw nimbus
just lost a fish in Greece due to my gamepad not registering the button being pressed
š
light ember
Well coronocht is definitely not fit for me. If I'm not getting the name wrong
rustic vale
Itās closer to coronacht or something
All purple hermes in tartarus kinda unheard of
Plus twin shot and arte attack this run is going well
rustic vale
āSurelyā
hehe
Zag bow
Plus extra chaos attack damage so
Kinda a confirmed win
latent moon
get flurry shot and def a win
warm nimbus
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/795659377755422742/1004803618500780163/IM...
epic flurry cast kinda gaming
light ember
So far I like bow the least. Feels like it requires so much setup
Phalanx shot replacing crystal beam, Blinding flash, or proud bearing
I can't pick
signal aspen
what weapon
light ember
The bow
signal aspen
phalanx shot
meager lava
what's the best gauntlet?
rustic vale
Demeter
thin echo
I just got killed in the most disrespectful way possible
meager lava
thought as much
thin echo
I had the boon from chaos that made me take like 300% damage from traps, and apparently lava is a trap cuz I got turned to stone while standing in lava and almost immediately started taking 7 damage per hit from it
meager lava
my fav sword is arthur, fav bow is chiron, fav gauntlet demeter (though I haven't used other gauntlets yet)
not a big fan of the other weapons
thin echo
My favorite weapon is the gun just because the rocket and cluster bomb combo is pretty much unmatched by any other weapon
meager lava
my fav sword is arthur, fav bow is chiron, fav gauntlet demeter (though I haven'...
tbh on all of those I run artemis boons
rustic vale
My favorite weapon is the gun just because the rocket and cluster bomb combo is ...
Rocket cluster is so inconsistent
clockets
rustic vale
tbh on all of those I run artemis boons
Fair
They canāt really go wrong with artemis
meager lava
just 1 of the attacks artemis rest defensive
rustic vale
Hmm
thin echo
I almost always just go Aphrodite instead of Artemis cuz Iād rather just have the pure damage than make my damage luck based
rustic vale
Artemis works really well once you start getting other sources of additive damage
so chaos and the like
And works really well with aphrodite as well
meager lava
sword = special artemis + the double hit nova
chiron = attack artemis + the no charge attack
gauntlet I don't know yet
rustic vale
uh
toxic birch
are game stop track progress when i make more than 1000 or 1500 runs?
rustic vale
On chiron artemis flourish works really really well
rustic vale
On chiron artemis flourish works really really well
instead of on attack
meager lava
not dionysus special?
rustic vale
then you slap aphrodite on attack, pick up relentless and concentrated
Dionysus and artemis special both work really well
Either way you want aphrodite on attack after you get your special
meager lava
for the dmg res?
rustic vale
For the duo boons
meager lava
which one
rustic vale
well on dionysus: low tolerance, and on artemis: heart rend
warm nimbus
ME build
ares attack, athena special, athena dash, their duo boon merciful end, and then other ways to scale (like impending doom)
rustic vale
Merciless end on fists but otherwise I like to get dionysus attack, aphrodite special and artemis on cast
meager lava
artemis cast?!
rustic vale
Relies on rng heavy for all duos though
rustic vale
you arenāt taking artemis cast for casting
Iām taking it for splitting headache and heart rend
warm nimbus
the other main build for fists is called zap fists and its zeus on attack, then you go for zeus supporting boons (jolted, storm lightning, splitting bolt) arty/aphro on special and tidal dash
meager lava
ah
meager lava
I need my dash to be athena, and call
deft canyon
"What the hell"
signal aspen
I need my dash to be athena, and call
then do merciful end
signal aspen
ares attack, athena special, athena dash, their duo boon merciful end, and then ...
this
warm nimbus
yeah do merciful end then
signal aspen
then you can do zeus attack artemis special and athena dash
warm nimbus
you have dark foresight and a few rerolls, right?
rustic vale
Why āand call?ā
rustic vale
are we talking me or smair rn
warm nimbus
ME
signal aspen
me uwu
warm nimbus
ME builds are hard to do without all 4 rerolls tbh
meager lava
?
rustic vale
Then call is irrelevant
meager lava
ME?
warm nimbus
merciful end
elder bay
i... seen the sunrise 
mint sleet
Hi, I'm looking to buy a controller but i don't know which i should get/better to play with. Any suggestions for me please?
light ember
I want a 3 phase fight with cerberus where each head has its own health pool. I want it to guilt the player every time it changes phases and to have a special interaction if the last head you defeat is the one that you normally pet.
light ember
:( made it to hades with bow for first time and because my controller is messed up I ran into beams... he had 2-3 hits left
toxic birch
are someone have more than 1500 runs in one saved slot???
signal aspen
are someone have more than 1500 runs in one saved slot???
yes
toxic birch
you have more than 1500 runs in one saved slot?
signal aspen
yes
toxic birch
are game still saving progress?
toxic birch
its ok but i hear its techically stop save when hit 1500 runs
how many runs do you make if i can know?
signal aspen
it stops at around 2500
patent mesa
after 1500 runs it should automatically delete your save and install a different game on your device
warm nimbus
based
signal aspen
no
toxic birch
ok
thin echo
How come the dark mirror ability that raises your attack when life is at 80% or above doesnāt work properly. It only activates if your life is above 80% not at 80%.
light ember
The only thing I struggle with is hades and it's because you have to stand still >_>
hollow path
are there anymore atk speed amplifiers other than flurry hammers and hermes?
latent moon
dont think so
hollow path
another question, heartbreak strike the highest scaling attack boon?
latent moon
yeah
deft canyon
Ah yes Chaos being a cosmic horror entetity
hollow path
i have flurry strike and 30% atk speed frmo hermes but i have weak attack
latent moon
aphrodite atk is fine tbh
or tbh any atk for that matter as long as it isn't ares probably
latent moon
athena's like the second highest % atk iirc
hollow path
i got deadly reversal so i think i would be fine now
lean timber
either her or demeter
deft canyon
I was like "Hades? Hmm let's see if it's good" and now I play it so much lol
light ember
The only time I ever win is dash builds ;_;
daring lantern
guan you
patent mesa
guan you
light ember
Asterius is a scripting scion main I swear
Made it to the very very end of the entire run with zero Ares lmfao. When deciding to specifically try doing a doom build
cursive ingot
Middle management barge of death š
light ember
I'm starting to get incredibly annoyed
warm nimbus
Made it to the very very end of the entire run with zero Ares lmfao. When decidi...
are you using god keepsakes?
rustic vale
are you using god keepsakes?
If no, you should be
warm nimbus
also, once you get 4 different gods (excluding chaos or hermes) then you will only see boons from those gods and from no others
rustic vale
also, once you get 4 different gods (excluding chaos or hermes) then you will on...
Unless you force through keepsakes
light ember
Didn't know that
warm nimbus
yeah god keepsakes are nice because they force the god you want to show up
cursive ingot
I always go Zeus attack on eris rail
mint coral
Ohhh Zeus Athena duo door or chaos
do you have static discharge?
light ember
Question when you force a God to show up does it include itself to the 4 rolled?
And yeah first thing I picked up was epic static
Scratch that
mint coral
hm il prob take the trial if i dont have the call, otherwise go for chaos
special dmg or general buffs like favor/hp is always nice
light ember
This is probably my strongest
Run ever
Hydra phased all 3 times before it could do an attack š
thin echo
I just somehow went through all of asphodel with only a single non boss encounter
light ember
Nice
So what the hell is the point of switching keepsakes partway through if they don't work
signal aspen
they do work
light ember
Died outright
Switched to skelly keepsake before hades
Got confident because he was almost dead and I had barely been hit
Took a bad combo.. died outright
light ember
Yes
signal aspen
and now you are saying the keepsake didnt work
light ember
Yes
signal aspen
lmfao
light ember
The keepsake revives you on death
signal aspen
no...
light ember
Skellys keepsake prevents fatal damage and heals 100
light ember
No
signal aspen
hmm
mint coral
can you replicate it?
light ember
I'll try
elder bay
"The six eyes of the hideous hound of hell go wide at once from having received the exquisite gift of rare Olympian Ambrosia. The Creature is rather beside himself."
rustic vale
So what the hell is the point of switching keepsakes partway through if they don...
They do work though?
All of them
I can confirm that they do because Iāve personally used and switched to every single one
got em all maxed
Did you happen to use the skelly dd earlier and not notice it? did you go into dad fight with a little skelly face dd?
last meadow
can i get some tips for elysium? i keep getting fuckin rolled lmao
esp by theseus and the bull
light ember
Indeed replicated.... I'm furious
So I have the once per run revive on. And before hades I switched from thanatos to lucky tooth... so I should have the two
Killed once revived. Killed again died.
If I start with lucky tooth I do indeed get two revives
mint coral
So I have the once per run revive on. And before hades I switched from thanatos ...
verify files integrity on steam maybe (or check for help in #h1-tech-support)
cursive ingot
esp by theseus and the bull
Kill the bull first, keep away from Theseus and try to stay behind a post and look out for the pink target that tells you when he is going to throw the spear and be behind the post for it. Itās just dps, dashing to avoid bulls attacks and avoiding the spear. Once bull is down bait the spear and hit him in the back and repeat
If youāre on EM3 I canāt help though because Iāve never tried it
last meadow
alright
rustic vale
Em3 is gaming
I forgot that normal fight existed till I took off em3 for zag fists shackle
cursive ingot
For Elysium in general idk. Is it a particular enemy type or build issue maybe
quiet ice
wait there's a bounty limit for each weapon?
i just hit the bounty limit for the rail lol
wild
mint coral
yeah 20 for normal mode 25 for hell mode
quiet ice
im not in hell mode
rustic vale
Wanted spread fire on zag rail for my shackle run but I ended up with hazard bomb so might as well make the most of it
And I got 5 dashes this wouldāve been perfect spread fire
cursive ingot
wait there's a bounty limit for each weapon?
Iirc you need like 11 more tb to max all aspects after collecting all the bounties
Through trade, fishing or the shop in Styx
cursive ingot
Did you get a bunch of extras?
mint coral
I havenāt collected all the bounties but I have all aspects unlocked
maxed or just unlocked some?
rustic vale
Iirc you need like 11 more tb to max all aspects after collecting all the bounti...
I mustāve
Whoops
mint coral
and how much blood you guess you traded
cursive ingot
You get quite a few fishing and stuff
rustic vale
I meant Iāve maxxed all the aspects
cursive ingot
Or when you have 1200g in styx
rustic vale
I got a few titans blood from fishing and trading I know that for certain
quiet ice
I'm like 10 titan blood from maxing all aspects
rustic vale
But I know I have 20 titans blood and all aspects maxxed while not having all bounties
along with the theme you pay blood to get
cursive ingot
I think thereās another use for tb later
mint coral
ranks ig
rustic vale
you can use it to buy a theme and for the ranks
cursive ingot
Resource director?
rustic vale
no rerolls, and 3 core boons to choose from on shackle zag
mint coral
take cast if there lol
mint coral
i mean could've been dash there lol
thin echo
Holy crap my doom attacks are doing over 1k right now
And I have the Athena dash with the duo boon so I can just spam dodges into the enemies and do 1k over and over
warm nimbus
that sounds llike a beautiful ME build
thin echo
If only I was doing this build with the gun so I could get 75% more damage on my doom with that one gun aspect
rustic vale
Itād be +75% additive
with any other damage
Iām assuming your 1k doom isnāt purely from doom base damage
patent mesa
imagine
patent mesa
now I need to know how strong lvl40 heroic doom would be
mental vale
rustic vale
not as strong as level 40 heroic hangover
rustic vale
281d dooms
How do you calculate it?
patent mesa
there's a megasheet I use
although I've thought about making a discord bot to do this stuff easily
signal aspen
doom poms after lvl 8 increase doom damage by like 1
snow skiff
Cyber zagreus !!!!
patent mesa
actually 2 smh
signal aspen
actually 2 smh
stfu
patent mesa
Cyber zagreus !!!!
*luciferspecialbot
snow skiff
Lmao true
patent mesa
notice that ring of fire is cracked in both games
warm nimbus
actually 2 smh
wait wtf its not 5
patent mesa
@chocbox thoughts?